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The British edition claims secret contacts of the West with Bashar Assad

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Sensational materials published daily British edition «The Independent». The material of British journalists states that the West is conducting secret negotiations with Syrian President Bashar Assad to unite efforts in the fight against the militants of the so-called Islamic State.



“The Independent” claims that the United States is already providing non-advertised assistance to Bashar Assad, conveying intelligence about the area in which the jihad leaders are located and the groups of ISIL are concentrated. It is reported that the Federal Intelligence Service of Germany - BND is also connected to the transfer of intelligence information to the Syrian authorities. This publication explains the recent successes of the Syrian government army against ISIL militants in several provinces of the country.

The publication quotes the former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Hour Freeman, who says that due to the activity of ISIL in Iraq and Syria, the neoconservative circles of the United States were in a difficult situation: if you openly support Assad, joining forces in the fight against ISIL, then this, to say the least , will raise questions about what to do with the "regime of Assad himself." If they are not supported, then ISIS militants can strengthen their positions in the region and continue large-scale terror.

It turns out that there is only one way out for neoconservatives in the United States: to continue to declare the need to fight the Assad regime, secretly assisting Assad in confronting ISIS.

In Syria, the material of British journalists have not yet commented.
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  1. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 23 August 2014 10: 35
    +5
    now you wanted to bomb Syria, now they persuade Assad to help break up the militants who were hired by amers in general, what the Americans are doing in shit
    1. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 23 August 2014 10: 43
      +7
      What a secret, who would have thought. The United States always speaks even with former enemies, even with the devil, even with the devil if only to please itself.
      1. mad
        mad 23 August 2014 10: 57
        +3
        Orwell comes to mind with his "doublethink":
        “Double-mindedness means the ability to simultaneously hold on to two conflicting beliefs. The party intellectual knows which way to change his memories; therefore, he is aware that he is cheating on reality; however, with the help of doublethink, he assures himself that reality has remained untouched. This process must be conscious, otherwise it cannot be carried out carefully, but it must also be unconscious, otherwise there will be a feeling of lies, and therefore guilt. Double-mindedness is the soul of the Angsots, since the party uses deliberate deceit, firmly keeping its course towards its goal, and this requires complete honesty. To tell a deliberate lie and at the same time to believe in it, to forget any fact that has become uncomfortable, and to remove it from oblivion as soon as it is needed again, to deny the existence of objective reality and to take into account the reality that you deny - all this is absolutely necessary. Even using the word "doublethinking", it is necessary to resort to doublethinking. For, using this word, you acknowledge that you are cheating with reality; one more act of doublethinking - and you erased it from memory; and so on to infinity, and the lie is always one step ahead of the truth.
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 23 August 2014 11: 06
          +12
          a little off topic ...

          but the militia tanks in the battles for Ilovaisk ..
          T-72B, 2nd unit !!! humanitarian aid supplies good !!!
          1. Vladimir K.
            Vladimir K. 23 August 2014 19: 55
            +1
            Bravo guys! The West (not Ukraine - it is only expendable material in its current form) must understand that entering into a direct logging with Russia is suicide. Perhaps this will help to avoid World War 3, but personally I doubt it - too many people need it now.
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 23 August 2014 11: 34
        +5
        But I would suggest that this is a gimmick. I read that the Rand Corporation offered to "make peace" with Syria and help in the destruction of terrorists on its territory by the forces of ... American Marines. Honestly, if these are really rand then how much they grind. Well, Assad, I think, is not such a fool to admit these vultures into his territory, which you will then escort FIG.
      3. Alekseir162
        Alekseir162 23 August 2014 12: 51
        +2
        Yes, it just became scary when they saw what their feeding was doing, so they decided to make peace with B. Assad for a while.
      4. Sandov
        Sandov 23 August 2014 19: 26
        0
        Quote: USSR 1971
        What a secret, who would have thought. The United States always speaks even with former enemies, even with the devil, even with the devil if only to please itself.

        The gringo has never had and has neither honor nor conscience. They are capable of any crime. Vietnam, Grenada, Chile, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Ukraine ...
    2. Момент
      Момент 23 August 2014 10: 48
      +8
      These are already twenty-fifth Western standards.
      And they do not want to talk quietly with Russia about the Kiev junta?
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 23 August 2014 11: 02
        +4
        Quote: Moment
        These are already twenty-fifth Western standards.
        And they do not want to talk quietly with Russia about the Kiev junta?



        There has always been only one standard in politics - to bargain for oneself advantages, by any means, from any situation.

        Perhaps in Soviet times, ideology came first, but now it’s only a gain, political or any other
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 23 August 2014 11: 29
          0
          a little off topic, but interesting:


          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIIO7gxOAiY#t=54
          1. subbtin.725
            subbtin.725 26 August 2014 05: 55
            0
            Elena Edokimova
            Alexander, here is the original text: Not verified !!! A guy from Lysychansk Self-Defense writes:
            "I just spoke on the phone with Lyashko, this scum in Severodonetsk cannot leave the city!
            They are beginning to fear, the guys are now leading an offensive on Severodonetsk, dill there in a cauldron, the city is surrounded!
            Here is the number Lyashko +380674663588
            Call him who wants to talk with him for the last time!
            Soon he won't be able to talk at all! "
            an hour ago to Alexander
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 23 August 2014 11: 20
        +2
        It turns out that there is only one way out for neoconservatives in the United States: to continue to declare the need to fight the Assad regime, secretly assisting Assad in confronting ISIS.

        Eh, mother-mash! Well, no words!
        These creatures, stubborn, rash Anglo-Saxons are good only when they are dead! am
    3. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 23 August 2014 10: 49
      +1
      The USA secretly helps the government of B. Assad, - HOWEVER ... Is it not because ISIS promised to flood the United States with blood, because Abama committed a real betrayal of the militants, and no one was surprised; after all, he was cynical to betray and cunning in the spirit Anglo-Saxons ... do we Russians not know this.
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 23 August 2014 12: 56
        +2
        Quote: subbtin.725
        And no one was surprised; after all, it is cynical to betray and cunning in the spirit of the Anglo-Saxons ... do we Russians not know this.


        Yah!
        And in Gorbachev’s times that they sang without exception? West friend, west savior! Peace, friendship, GUM! M
        Give oil and gas deposits for Coca-Cola, UPI and ROYAL alcohol! And what about the kilometer-long queues of "starving" people at McDonald's in Moscow?
        They destroyed the USSR with their own hands, even the West itself did not expect this!
        Only a very small part of the people of the USSR shouted with a sober mind that this was a disaster for the country. Has anyone listened to them !? It was the same "zombie". Now compare with Ukraine. What then do you want from Ukraine?
    4. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 23 August 2014 11: 06
      +1
      You should not draw conclusions based on publications in The Independent. It hardly makes sense to comment on such publications ...
    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought 23 August 2014 11: 39
      0
      Mattresses in their spirit, no moral obligations and remorse.
    6. olegnmnk
      olegnmnk 23 August 2014 14: 02
      0
      secret negotiations were also conducted with Saddam Hussein, and guarantees of support were promised regarding the appropriation of Kuwait until the moment of the attack on the latter.
    7. skeket
      skeket 23 August 2014 14: 21
      +1
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      now you wanted to bomb Syria, now they persuade Assad to help break up the militants who were hired by amers in general, what the Americans are doing in shit

      So these people understand that a dictator in power is better than not controlled Islamic radicals. Libya, Iraq, Syria are proof of this. Here the question is only in the balance, on one side the Islamists, and on the other - oil. In this case, ISIS is not just disparate gangs, but already a very dangerous army that can take control of the huge oil-bearing regions of the Middle East, with all the ensuing consequences.
  2. Klim2011
    Klim2011 23 August 2014 10: 36
    +3
    And who if not the USA ISIS created.
  3. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 23 August 2014 10: 36
    +3
    Assad will not succumb to provocation .. It's all against Russia, "moles" are spreading all over the world ... And China is whispering something out there .. there are disgusting creatures ..
    1. Federal
      Federal 23 August 2014 10: 45
      0
      This is not a provocation, it is the preservation of a quiet life on its territory, because the electorate will not understand correctly, if God forbid that ....
      1. enot73
        enot73 23 August 2014 10: 55
        +1
        England has no eternal enemies and friends, but there are eternal interests. And this also applies to other Western countries.
  4. DVxa
    DVxa 23 August 2014 10: 37
    +1
    It is customary not to hide success. And especially to appropriate laurels ..
    No one can even think that Assad’s army alone can effectively fight .. stop
  5. mig31
    mig31 23 August 2014 10: 38
    +1
    Here it is the dark side of the moon, they themselves cannot, even agree to an alliance with the enemy, and this is all purulent America ...
  6. RUSOIVAN
    RUSOIVAN 23 August 2014 10: 38
    0
    It’s better that they fight better with ISIS until the last ukrofashist: everyone benefits!
  7. Shaitan
    Shaitan 23 August 2014 10: 39
    +1
    It is interesting to see what Assad has to say! I think such data, which they undoubtedly get from the satellite, and Russia can provide mattresses to him.
  8. Federal
    Federal 23 August 2014 10: 41
    0
    The sphincter is not iron, because those whom they nurtured and sponsored will come to their lands tomorrow and kill their wives and children and they understand this very well ....
  9. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 23 August 2014 10: 54
    0
    And why do not negotiate with Israel ..? They have a lot of experience and all kinds of weapons are inundated .. Syria is exhausted by the war destroying the feeding of the USA and Britain ..! Israel has an iron or diamond dome over there ..))) They are here on the website boasting what kind of super-precision weapons they have (or it’s more convenient to aim precision weapons peacefully ..?) I don’t troll the Jews, it’s just time to bring them to real life ..
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 23 August 2014 18: 20
      -1
      Israel helps those who seek help.
      The Egyptian military receives intelligence on the Sinai terrorist bases.
      In response, they warn Israel of attempts to transfer arms
      Islamists in Gaza.
      With the special services and the military of the kingdom of Jordan - a long and reliable relationship.
      Bashar al-Assad must decide who he wants to rely on: Shiites (Iran, Hezbollah)
      or moderate Arabs (Egypt, Jordan) and Israel.
      1. IFreedman
        IFreedman 23 August 2014 18: 55
        -1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Bashar al-Assad must decide who he wants to rely on: Shiites (Iran, Hezbollah)
        or moderate Arabs (Egypt, Jordan) and Israel.

        Assad is generally a separate issue. Either his mind is not enough, or the ambition is shaking.
    2. IFreedman
      IFreedman 23 August 2014 18: 55
      -1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      it’s just time to bring them to real business

      For example? wink
  10. Arkan
    Arkan 23 August 2014 11: 09
    +1
    Sensational materials published by The Independent, a British daily

    Believe this sheluponi, do not respect yourself.
  11. Drunya
    Drunya 23 August 2014 11: 19
    +1
    Syria Events Summary for August 22, 2014
    After the return of the village of Mlekha under the control of the Syrian army, the operation to clear the adjacent territories of Eastern Ghouta continued in the direction of the village of Jisrin. Today, August 22, army units took the territory of the Tameko pharmaceutical factory located between Mleha and Jisrin. On the Damascus-Nashshabiya road, several strong points were recaptured from the bandit groups. In the last days, the bandit formations tried several times to organize a counter-offensive against the army's positions from the Zebdin plantations in the direction of Mlehi, but their sorties were suppressed by massive fire from artillery, aviation and ground forward army units. Under pressure from government forces, militant groups began to retreat from the vicinity of Jisrin and Ain Terma to the inner regions of these settlements.
    For the second day in a row, military transport control in Harast was attacked by gangs. Due to ongoing military clashes and indiscriminate mortar fire by fighters, the Damascus-Homs motorway was blocked for some time on the site the other day. Losses suffered on both sides. The situation has fundamentally changed towards normalization after an intervention in what is happening by the military aviation forces, which inflicted at least 5 attacks on the positions of the militants.

    In the Al-Qadam area, an armistice agreement was reached on the basis of the same conditions that became the key to normalizing the situation in the Barz area and the city of Muaddamiya.

    For several days, the operations of the Syrian army continued in the area of ​​Aleppo Central Prison, located north of the administrative center. The clashes resulting from attacks by army units on Islamist positions took place in the Jbeil region and near the center of the security forces they seized. Today, the gangs were forced to retreat from the territories of these facilities, and the advance of the armed forces continued in the direction of the largest cement plant in Syria.

    A few days ago, ISIS radical radicals conquered the village of Marea from opponents from other gangs, and now they have begun the siege of the next important settlement, turned by the Islamic Front into its fortified area - the city of Azzaz, from which only the village of Soran separates them.

    Simultaneously with the hostilities on the ground, Syrian combat aircraft attacked the positions of IS troops in the territories they captured.
  12. Drunya
    Drunya 23 August 2014 11: 21
    +1
    Syria Events Summary for August 22, 2014 - continued
    A large-scale army operation is carried out in the province of Hama: in its north - in the areas of Kafr Zeyta and Morek and in the south - in the area of ​​Halfaya. Reported on the large losses of opponents in manpower and weapons. Confirmation of the latest data is information about the pulling together additional forces of gangs of Jebhat An-Nusra to the KTO areas and air strikes of the army in the neighboring region - Idlib province, where the enemy's convoys heading towards the Hama became the targets of the SAR air force attacks. There are reports that in one of them at least 400 militants and 10 units of military equipment were destroyed.

    Intensive air strikes forced ISIS fighters to withdraw from their positions in the area of ​​the military airfield of Tabka, Raqqa province. It is reported that over the past three days, their facilities in the combat zone have undergone at least 100 air raids. There is also information about the receipt of additional units of the Armed Forces and military property, including weapons, on the territory of a military facility. The SU-24 aircraft also landed on the runway, which took part in raids on the positions of the IS groupings in Raqqa and Tabka.

    Previously, Islamist gangs, following a tested scenario, tried to take the object with the help of mined cars with suicide bombers. It is known that at least one of them was discovered and destroyed in advance by the defenders of one of the attacked fortified checkpoints located on the way to the airfield.

    Today, in the west of the facility, army units launched a counterattack on enemy positions and were able to recapture their stronghold in one of the villages.

    All data published by the militants about their breakthrough into the territory of the sensitive facility does not correspond to reality. Some opposition sources claim that Islamists are preparing mass executions of previously captured people whom they intend to pass off as military servicemen at Tabka airdrome for propaganda purposes.

    The closest distance Islamists approached the air base is 2.400 meters. The operations of the IS gangs are led by Omar Al-Sheshani.

    All sources report huge losses of Islamists in the battles for the Tabka airfield, including in the command of their armed forces.

    The Aleppo-Racca road, near which the airfield is located, is closed by IS fighters for transport.

    http://www.anna-news.info/node/20622
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 23 August 2014 21: 30
      -2
      "Operations of IS gangs are led by Omar Ash-Sheshani" /////

      Do you know who this Ash-Sheshani is? Sheshani is a "Chechen".
      In fact, he is not even a Chechen, but a Georgian who converted to Islam.
      He fought in the Georgian army against Russia in 2008. He understands in Russian.
      Unfortunately, an "international" comes to ISIS from all over the world.
      To spread the "light of Islam" to the countries of origin negative
  13. andrei332809
    andrei332809 23 August 2014 11: 22
    0
    Fear Danians bringing gifts. and the Yankees are more deceitful
  14. quote
    quote 23 August 2014 11: 23
    -1
    And how are you, simply, going to attract someone somewhere? On what basis? Did the shoulder straps turn your head? "I don't troll the Jews, it's just time to involve them in real affairs." Well, just Suvorov.
    Ask what the Iron Dome is and where you can aim it. The sofa won't break.
  15. fzr1000
    fzr1000 23 August 2014 11: 24
    0
    I do not see anything surprising in this news.
  16. Siberian
    Siberian 23 August 2014 11: 39
    0
    In their rotten politics, nothing changes. What 100 years ago, what 200, what now. When it’s advantageous for one to lay straws, when it is not beneficial for others, and let them bite each other. And they stand aside, watching. And in the end, they choose someone to substitute the bandwagon.
  17. Iskander 090
    Iskander 090 23 August 2014 11: 40
    0
    they will write a lot of different things there. only believe nothing
  18. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 23 August 2014 12: 19
    0
    In general, Russia fulfilled its function in Syria, and after the outbreak of war in the Ukraine, the further fate of Syria and Assad no longer matters. Now he can negotiate with anyone and about anything. The only contract for the development of the shelf for Gazprom should remain in force, and the implementation of contracts for the supply of weapons, the rest no longer worries anyone. Not until now.
  19. givigor71
    givigor71 23 August 2014 12: 40
    +1
    the west is completely rotten, it has turned into a two-faced "anus" ...
  20. Lyton
    Lyton 23 August 2014 13: 46
    0
    When a roasted cock in the ass pecks and you don’t go to such negotiations, nothing surprising, everything is logical.
  21. leglun
    leglun 23 August 2014 14: 53
    0
    Death to the Americans, wherever they are and whatever they do, they are corrupt creatures !!!
  22. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 23 August 2014 15: 38
    0
    US policy in a simplified form, to distribute weapons to everyone and see what happens ... only they did not expect that they would begin to kill their proteges and the Americans themselves ... syuyyurpraaaayz .. laughing
  23. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 23 August 2014 15: 41
    0
    Quote: givigor71
    the west is completely rotten, it has turned into a two-faced "anus" ...
    good capacious! laughing
  24. HAM
    HAM 23 August 2014 15: 50
    0
    Can you believe this? Although on the other hand, for Americans to remove competitors with their own hands is a favorite pastime. Honor and conscience are not about them.
  25. renics
    renics 23 August 2014 21: 58
    0
    Hold on son
    Author Arina Zabavina.
    Everything will be fine. Hold on, son!
    There is still light at the end of the tunnel.
    In the fate of any all assigned a term -
    Longing, sadness, laughter and fun.

    Let first love turn away
    And the best friend unexpectedly set up,
    But still the world is not so harsh
    And life is beautiful! A fight without rules .............
  26. gammipapa
    gammipapa 24 August 2014 00: 19
    0
    Here's how not to recall the headlines a year ago - Assad is so bad, so bad. And everyone approvingly buzzed in the West - yes, a dictator, he eats children.
  27. romashki74
    romashki74 24 August 2014 09: 22
    0
    Quote: leglun
    Death to the Americans, wherever they are and whatever they do, they are corrupt creatures !!!



    Well, ordinary people may not be like their power ....
  28. Wolka
    Wolka 25 August 2014 05: 30
    0
    here it is Western politics, all in all its glory, however, they have changed ...