Declaration of War. 2 August 1914

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01. Emperor Nicholas II from the balcony of the Winter Palace reads a manifesto on declaring war.


02. Palace Square, filled with people, while reading the manifesto on the declaration of war in Germany.


03. Palace Square, filled with people, while reading the manifesto on the declaration of war in Germany.


04. On Palace Square during the reading of the manifesto on declaring war.


05. On Palace Square during the reading of the manifesto on declaring war.


06. On Palace Square during the reading of the manifesto on declaring war.


07. Palace Square, filled with people, while reading the manifesto on the declaration of war


08. Palace Square, filled with people, while reading the manifesto on the declaration of war


09. Spare passes in front of the demonstrators at the Winter Palace on the day of reading the manifesto on declaring war


11. Palace Square, filled with people, while reading the manifesto on the declaration of war


12. On Palace Square during the reading of the manifesto on declaring war


13. On Palace Square during the reading of the manifesto on declaring war


14. Demonstrators on Palace Square in front of the Winter Palace


15. Emperor Nicholas II comes out of the small entrance of the Winter Palace to the embankment in the direction of the yacht "Standart" after reading the manifesto on declaring war


16. Crowds of jubilant monarchists on Palace Square near the Winter Palace from Millionnaya Street before reading the royal manifesto


17. Crowd of jubilant monarchists on Palace Square opposite the Winter Palace


18. Crowds of jubilant monarchists on Palace Square while reading the manifesto.jpg


19. Demonstrators look at passing columns mobilized into the army


19. Crowds of cheering monarchists on Palace Square before reading the manifesto


20. Demonstrators on Palace Square with patriotic slogans before reading the manifesto


21. Jubilant monarchists on Palace Square with patriotic slogans before reading the manifesto


22. Crowds of monarchists on the Palace Square in anticipation of reading the manifesto on the declaration of war in Germany


23. Crowd of protesters at the Palace Square in anticipation of reading the manifesto on the declaration of war in Germany


24. A crowd of monarchists at the foot of the Alexander Column during the reading of the manifesto on the declaration of war in Germany


25. Emperor Nicholas II goes to the balcony of the Winter Palace before reading the manifesto on Russia's entry into the war


26. At the Winter Palace after the declaration of war


27. Demonstrators are passing along Nevsky Prospect past the Catherine Garden after the announcement of the manifesto on the declaration of war in Germany.


28. The demonstrators are on Nevsky Prospect to Sadovaya Street after the announcement of the manifesto on the declaration of war.


29. The demonstrators are returning along Nevsky Prospect (past the Imperial Public Library) after the announcement of the manifesto on the declaration of war in Germany.


30. Patriotic manifestation on Nevsky Prospect near the Anichkov Palace on the occasion of the declaration of war on Germany


31. Demonstrators marching along Nevsky Prospect past the Ekaterininsky Garden to Palace Square to hear the manifesto on declaring war on Germany.


32. Demonstrators are walking along Nevsky Prospect (through Sadovaya Street) after the announcement of the declaration of war on Germany.


33. Accumulation of transport during the demonstration at the corner of Nevsky Prospect and Sadovaya Street


34. Accumulation of transport during the demonstration at the corner of Nevsky Prospect and Sadovaya Street


35. The accumulation of transport during the manifestation on Nevsky Prospect


36. A crowd of people during the manifestation on Nevsky Prospect on Sadovaya Street


37. The accumulation of people during the demonstration on Nevsky Prospect on Sadovaya Street


38. A crowd of people at the newspaper Novoye Vremya (Nevsky, 40) on the day of the reading of the manifesto on the declaration of war


39. A group of members of the State Duma on the pier at the Winter Palace on the day of the declaration of war


40. Emperor Nicholas II and members of the imperial family on the boat "Peterhof" before sailing to the imperial yacht "Standart" after the end of the reading of the manifesto on declaring war on Germany


41. A group of officers and bourgeoisie welcomes the Serbian envoy on the occasion of the declaration of war on Germany
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  1. +59
    2 August 2014 05: 50
    This is a truly unnecessary war in the company of allies, which are essentially worse than enemies.
    1. nvv
      nvv
      0
      2 August 2014 05: 53
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      This is a truly unnecessary war in the company of allies, which are essentially worse than enemies.

      Further more.
      1. nvv
        nvv
        +16
        2 August 2014 05: 56
        .............
        1. +21
          2 August 2014 06: 46
          How does the West want the Russians to cut down the Russians again ...
          1. +36
            2 August 2014 07: 21
            “Ukrainians” are those Russians who kill Russians in order to prove to the whole world that they are not Russians, considering themselves to be more Russian (Russian) than those Russians whom they kill!
            Austria-Hungary Bravo!
          2. rodevaan
            +4
            2 August 2014 09: 41
            - In Ukraine, this is exactly what is happening now.
            1. 0
              3 August 2014 01: 02
              By the way, here is the manifest itself (what was distributed among the population)
              (you can expand it with the right mouse button "open image")

              and its contents:

              _______________ by God's grace
              ______________ WE NICHOLAS THE SECOND
              Emperor and autocrat of all Russia,
              The king of Poland, the Grand Duke of Finland, and so on., And so on., And so on.

              ____ We declare to all our faithful subjects.
              ____ A few days ago, we notified our manifesto. We are the Russian people
              about the war declared to us by Germany.
              ____ Now Austria-Hungary, the first instigator of the world troubles, bared in the middle
              deep peace sword against the weakest Serbia, and threw off his mask and declared
              the war more than once saved her Russia.
              ____ Enemy forces multiply: both rebelled against Russia and all Slavs
              powerful German powers. But with a vengeance grows towards them
              just anger of peaceful nations, and with indestructible firmness confronts
              an enemy called to battle Russia, faithful to the glorious traditions of its past.
              ____ The Lord sees that it’s not for the sake of warlike designs or worldly worldly
              We raised glory weapons, but, protecting the dignity and security of God the
              Our Empire, fighting for a just cause. In the upcoming war of the peoples, we are not alone:
              Our Allies stood together with Us, also forced to resort to the power of weapons,
              in order to eliminate, finally, the eternal threat of the German powers to general peace and tranquility.
              ____ Yes, the Lord Almighty Our and allied weapons to us are blessed, and may
              all of Russia is engaged in a feat of arms with iron in his hands, with a cross in his heart.
              ____ Dan in St. Petersburg, on July 26, in the summer of Christmas
              nineteen fourteen; our reign is in the twentieth.

              ____ Handwritten on the true HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY
              "Nikolay"
          3. +19
            2 August 2014 11: 29
            Guys! Read the history of Russia carefully! In order for the small Moscow principality to become the Great Russian Empire, the Russians had to fight with the Russians, in order to correct some "Russian" brains! Moscow and Tver 'fought, which is more Russian, and Novgorod and Pskov were "brought up" and not by the methods of "liberalistic" universal "values"! And now these are Russian lands, ready to break anyone for a united Russia (not a party of fat cats). And Novgorod also looked to the west ... Nothing - they brought up! We will educate Russians in Ukraine!
            1. rodevaan
              -1
              2 August 2014 12: 16
              Quote: nnz226
              Guys! Read the history of Russia carefully! In order for the small Moscow principality to become the Great Russian Empire, the Russians had to fight with the Russians, in order to correct some "Russian" brains! Moscow and Tver 'fought, which is more Russian, and Novgorod and Pskov were "brought up" and not by the methods of "liberalistic" universal "values"! And now these are Russian lands, ready to break anyone for a united Russia (not a party of fat cats). And Novgorod also looked to the west ... Nothing - they brought up! We will educate Russians in Ukraine!


              - It was not Moscow that brought up, but the Horde ruinous invasion, and the subsequent yoke, which burned and enslaved Russia. Only then did Tver, Novgorod, Vladimir and others think that it’s enough to cut each other up when the enemy ruins the common land. And the most active in terms of land unification was Moscow.
              1. +5
                2 August 2014 14: 24
                Quote: rodevaan
                and the Horde ruinous invasion

                It is still necessary to deal with the Horde yoke, where it is, and where it was not. But the "Horde yoke", which spread to half the world, did not educate everyone. But it prompted Russia to reunite, for sure, and many then dreamed of being in the center of this unity, leading the supreme principality, and it was these who had to be conquered, sometimes using not military force, but the power of the Horde. So it turns out that at first the Horde gave power to Demetrius, and the internecine wars within the Horde and the Golden Horde with the White Horde, magnified Moscow's power over Kazan, Astrakhan and the Siberian principality.
              2. 11111mail.ru
                +1
                2 August 2014 15: 29
                Quote: rodevaan
                Not Moscow brought up Horde ruinous invasion, and the subsequent yoke that burned and enslaved Russia

                Bravo, this time you are already putting it mildly, they stopped "annealing", otherwise it was:
                http://topwar.ru/55365-kak-v-chernovickoy-oblasti-pogovorili-s-deputatom-prizyva

                vshim-idti-na-voynu.html # comment-id-3120409
                Quote: rodevaan
                there will be an eternal Mongol-Tatar (or any other Basurman) yoke ...

                Well, how tenacious are these mossy, moldy stereotypes, once introduced into the consciousness of the "educated" part of the "Russian" population!
                Was Batyev's army, ruined the Chernigov land, Ryazan and Vladimir principality. And the grand duke became the father of Alexander Nevsky (Yaroslav Vsevolodovich) from the "supernumerary" Pereyaslavl. Subsequently, the "Horde" (together) with the Russian soldiers showed "Kuzkin's mother" to the "Evrope" there (for some reason, ruining the lands that supported the then "godfather" - the Pope of Rome Gregory IX).
                There was an even more ruinous Nevryuev army, after which Andrey Yaroslavich "sdr..ul" over the hill. And no one prevented Alexander Yaroslavich, who with the help of the Horde, stopped the Catholic invasion of Russia, to start collecting Russian lands.
                Then, too, probably there were boyars who sighed: "having converted to Catholicism, they would now drink not kumis, but Fryazh wines."
                Therefore, the second half of your comment: Quote -
                Quote: rodevaan
                then Tver, Novgorod, Vladimir and others thought that it’s enough to cut each other when the enemy ruins common ground.

                Continuation - in the light of the feudal fragmentation that existed at that time, no one dreamed of the common Russian land. Everyone thought at the level of "destinies", and not in national categories.
                1. 0
                  2 August 2014 17: 57
                  Alexander Nevskiy. Though a saint, didn’t you think?
                  1. 11111mail.ru
                    +1
                    2 August 2014 20: 20
                    Quote: tanit
                    Alexander Nevskiy. Though a saint, didn’t you think?

                    Are you addressed to whom and what are you asking, dear? Explain your undoubtedly wise thought!
                2. rodevaan
                  +1
                  2 August 2014 20: 20
                  - Yeah, for some reason there was a feeling - that you are sure to spotlight here!
                  Bravo, this time you are already putting it mildly, they stopped "annealing", otherwise it was:
                  - I can call both "Mongol-Tatar" and "Horde" - the essence of this does not change. Maybe once again you will be reminded http://topwar.ru/55365-kak-v-chernovickoy-oblasti-pogovorili-s-deputatom-prizyva

                  - the essence of this whole dispute? Batu's army included both Mongols and Tatars, for that matter. So the term "Mongol-Tatar yoke" is quite applicable to the invaders, if you look closely.
                  I can once again mention that the "MONGOLO-TATAR IGO" really prompted the princes to think about the current situation, because the devastating raids of the horde and princes against each other, not without the help of the Horde troops, hampered the development, trade and prosperity of the same principalities ...
                  If you decide to be smart here, then I will reveal a secret - your opinion is not a panacea on this issue, since there are many interpretations on the term "Mongol-Tatar yoke", as well as on the "Horde yoke", and very ambiguous - as in meaning this yoke for Russia and the Russian principalities, and its consequences for them. The range of interpretations on this event is very polar - from absolute negativity and the statement that the yoke greatly slowed down the development of Russia to full approval and statements that the fact of the presence of the yoke contributed to the establishment of order, legality and prosperity in Russia.
                  My personal opinion is that the yoke greatly slowed down the development of Russia, prolonged the period of fragmentation and hostility of the principalities to each other, which negatively affected the subsequent development of the Russian state.
                  Your opinion remains with you ...
                  1. 11111mail.ru
                    +2
                    2 August 2014 22: 47
                    Quote: rodevaan
                    there was a feeling - that you are sure to spotlight here!

                    What are you, I'm not an LED or an Ilyich light bulb! I look: topic = history, I need to look, and you "drew" with irrefutable judgments, for some reason I decided that the polemic would be interesting, and you made a gift by substituting with Ilyich. We'll shoot back at Igu, throw yourself over to your comments about Ilyich. There we will cross our opinions.
                    Quote: rodevaan
                    Personally, my opinion is that the yoke greatly slowed down the development of Russia

                    What about the so-called. "Iga" and its assessments, then I stand on the positions of L.N. Gumilyov, although the novel-essay "Memory" by Vladimir Chivilikhin (read it in "Roman-Gazeta" in 1983), his first official "denouncer" on my bookshelf next to Lev Nikolaevich's publications. Let's look at the situation in which the "feudally fragmented ancient Russian principalities" found themselves. "Lie" under the Pope, thus selling the soul to the devil, or temporarily accept the "protectorate" of the Horde? Alexander Yaroslavich took the side of God, having concluded, following the example of his father, a vassal alliance with the Horde, for which he was canonized under another collector of lands, repeatedly slandered by Ivan IV. The beacon of Russian democracy, Mr. Elson, received a label for the presidency, flew to Washington and, according to him, became twice as happy, having twice circled the Statue of Liberty. The princes in that era were no worse than Mr. Elson, therefore, in order to resolve the princely disputes, they were forced to go "to the Horde" and drink lamb kumys there, and not stand honey or fryazh wines. However, they sent a certain tribute to the Horde, which is still being done in ErEfii, allegedly for some kind of stabilization fund, which for some reason stabilizes not the Russian, but the state economy.
                    Quote: rodevaan
                    Your opinion remains with you ...

                    This is natural, this year it has hit me half a hundred or eight, therefore, according to Griboyedovsky: "In my age, you should dare - have your own judgment!"
                    1. rodevaan
                      0
                      3 August 2014 17: 46
                      Nnu taky-si! You can argue with grandfathers forever ... They are not the result, the process itself is important to them, and the topic can be anything - from the "Mongol-Tatar yoke" to what to feed Tamagoch.
                  2. 0
                    3 August 2014 03: 00
                    And what else could be the opinion? Certainly slowed down. If nomads, who can also be called thieves, robbers and murderers, raid everything to the ground, remove all valuables, kill people and sell the most valuable artisans to slavery for a certain period of time, then what else, in addition to inhibiting the development of the nation, this can bring. They burned Russia almost completely, and several times. And a different opinion can only be populist, with the aim of misleading and expressed by people who want to stand out with a minimum of extraordinary thinking.
                    1. 11111mail.ru
                      0
                      3 August 2014 08: 43
                      Quote: figter
                      If nomads, who can also be called thieves, robbers and murderers, raid everything to the ground, remove all valuables, kill people and sell the most valuable artisans to slavery for a certain period of time, then what else, in addition to inhibiting the development of the nation, this can bring.

                      And if not nomads? If "their" princes? Is feudal fragmentation populism? Remember the story of the Drevlyans and Prince Igor, who went to the "polyudye" for the second time.
                      The capture and ruin of Kiev by the troops of Andrei Bogolyubsky. (1169) http://rus-letopisi.ru/vzyatie-kieva-bogolyubskim/
                      “Kiev was taken in the month of March 8, in the second week of fasting on Wednesday, and for 2 days they plundered the entire city, Podil and the Mountain and monasteries, and Sofia, and the Tithes of the Mother of God, and there was no mercy to anyone from anywhere.
                      Churches burned, Christians were killed, others were tied, wives were taken into captivity, separating by force from their husbands, babies were crying, looking at their mothers. They took a lot of wealth, they laid bare the churches, tore off the icons and vestments and bells in them, took the books, the people of Smolny and Suzdal and Chernigov took everything out. And the Polovtsy lit the Pechersk Monastery of the Holy Mother of God. "
                      Read about the battle of the Novgorodians with the Suzdal people at Lipitsa (1216). There is even a picture on this topic. "A miracle from the icon" Our Lady of the Sign. "If during the breakthrough of the Reds into the Crimea in 1920, the losses were calculated (according to V.K. Blucher, 5,5 thousand were killed, then V.N. Tatishchev believed that only" Suzdal residents "were killed in 2550 Battle of Lipica.
            2. 0
              2 August 2014 22: 53
              '' Guys! In order for the small Moscow principality to become the Great Russian Empire, the Russians had to fight with the Russians, in order to correct some "Russian" brains '' /. Guys! If you read the history carefully, then all peoples fought with their fellow tribesmen to create large states. This guaranteed a quieter and safer life for the inhabitants of these states. And this applies to all countries in Europe, Africa and South America. There is one exception - the United States, there is no such nationality - the Americans, there is the rabble of Europe, which in Europe was superfluous and unnecessary. And they fought for the expansion of the state, not for the safety of citizens, but for commercial gain and the conquest of new lands.
              1. +1
                7 August 2014 00: 07
                Quote: papas-57
                then all nations fought with their fellow tribesmen to create large states

                Quote: papas-57
                There is one exception - the United States, there is no such nationality - the Americans, there is a rabble of Europe, which in Europe was superfluous and unnecessary.


                They also shredded each other a lot.
                I would only add that ALL wars, except defensive - disassembly for the redistribution of resources, covered by ideological, national, religious, etc. excuses. IMHO.
        2. +5
          2 August 2014 08: 15
          Quote: nvv
          nvv

          And what did the Russians cut the video for Russian minuses? Or it wasn’t so, or maybe it’s just that the truth is pinching some eyes.
          1. +3
            2 August 2014 10: 25
            I also put a minus. As a sign of PROTEST !!! Against what the comrades-in-arms started, whom you, Sash, called "Navalny of that time". Precise definition...
            But it is significant that Lenin-Blank was ideological, and the "bulk" ones were also covetous.
            No less disgusting - pictures of this "bulk-that-time" hung on all walls, starting with kindergartens ...
            And now there is a ziggurat in place of one of the bloodiest places in Russia - a ditch in front of the Kremlin wall, where the blood of executed RUSSIANs repeatedly flowed.
            Not without purpose all this. This is a stigma in Russia. And while it exists - oh how unsweetened we all have to ...

            And who posted the clip "nvv", then compensate.
            1. +2
              2 August 2014 10: 43
              Quote: Ptah
              Not without purpose all this. This is a stigma in Russia.

              This memory is for those who today offer treason as the salvation of the country. Let them stand so that they remember how to live hi
              Although I would demolish them all by *** to the last, so that there would be no trace.
              1. -3
                2 August 2014 11: 59
                In that necropolis and ashes there are many very respected people.
                Kurchatov, Korolev, Keldysh, Zhukov ...
                And they are all buried in such a gloomy place ...
                The mess is ... Blasphemy and disrespect for what they have done ...
                So as they need not a box and a sign "in the sideboard", but monuments in the squares, and they are "at the cupboard ..."
                It's okay to bury someone. "Earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust" (c) ...
                Although there are a lot of outright ghouls - Kamenev, Vyshinsky, Mehlis, Sverdlov ...
                Is there a place for them?
                At the bottom of the Dead Sea. There they will be like canned food in saline. And what Satanists want - they can gobble up ...
                1. +1
                  2 August 2014 14: 42
                  Quote: Ptah
                  Kurchatov
                  received the task to build a bomb according to the terms of reference received by intelligence, but later achieved more than America. Zhukov used the methods of "overwhelming the enemy with troupes of Russian soldiers." The GSS received the fourth star for driving the troops in Karelia through the epicenter of a nuclear explosion.
                  And about "Earth to Earth" by chance I did not see the state of the graves of many celebrities of the 20th century, they look like ... But here at least there is always order. And there is a law according to which, after 25 years after the last burial, cemeteries can be demolished, with a preliminary announcement and a proposal to transfer the ashes of the dead to another cemetery. Those who do not have graves equal to excavators. I saw in my life an abandoned cemetery, which was located between the school and the extreme street of the city. And one more thing: bodies do not drown in the Dead Sea, and there people are treated.
                  1. 11111mail.ru
                    +1
                    3 August 2014 08: 56
                    Quote: shasherin.pavel
                    GSS got the fourth star for driving it away in Karelia troops through the epicenter of a nuclear explosion.

                    I was impressed! Move the Totsky training ground from the Orenburg region to Karelia, carry out exercises with an explosion on it, then return it to the Chkalov region. Grandiose! Feel the scale!
        3. pahom54
          +4
          2 August 2014 08: 39
          for nvv
          Thanks for the video ... It makes you think, oh how to think ...
        4. +3
          2 August 2014 10: 36
          Way out of the vicious circle: Russians cut the "Trotsky"
        5. SAVA555.IVANOV
          -2
          2 August 2014 12: 02
          I repeat, the Russians are chopping down the Russians because the Russians don't think with their heads, in Ukraine, like air, a pro-Russian president was needed, not a grabber, but a crystal honest man from the Russian world, you thought that everything would work out by itself, and at this time the West was recruiting its supporters among the Ukrainians, pointing to all the shortcomings of the government (which they themselves corrupted), let everything go to chance, well, while you can mock the Ukrainians and their misfortune (it's just that we were the first to collide), but ahead of you is your turn. I don’t think (don’t remember 41-45), just like Ukraine, you will bend slowly to the west (they are already among you, these zombies) and they will hum like "la-la-la" teasing. Well, let's wait and see how our faith in you will fall to zero.
          1. +3
            2 August 2014 14: 12
            SAVA555.IVANOV (3) UA Today, 12:02 ↑
            I repeat, Russians chop down Russians because Russians don't think with their heads ... "
            You still did not understand that Ukraine was chosen as a means (notice, not a subject) and weapons against Europe and against Russia.
            As in any such event rank, there must be at least two components: -internal and external.
            1. Internal components:
            1.1-financial-oligarchic groups (FOGR). (Clans) with their party structures., Mass media ... .. The reason for their dissatisfaction with the behavior of President Yanukovych and “hitting” their structures (economic, party and information) in the interests of “Family” in including in Donetsk .... They are almost all sponsored Maidan
            1.2-party with a nationalistic bias, remote from the big (Kiev politics) and only having influence at the local and at the same regional level, mainly in the western regions .. But having ambitions for the whole of Ukraine .. On them the stake was made separate FOGGR
            ((((in this regard, see article on December 9.12.2010, XNUMX, Mikhail Sinelnikov
            http://www.km.ru/news/evrei_ukrainy_gotovy_k_soyuzu_s_ )))) –это же коспирологический след событий
            on Ukarin. (?) ”“ ”But Igor Kolomoisky sees everything exclusively in pink, not distinguishing between brown tones:“ According to what I see on TV, “Freedom” has clearly shifted from ultranationalism closer to the center, has become more moderate. If earlier their electorate was 2-3% of the marginal population, now their electoral base has grown. They may very soon become leaders of the West and the Center of Ukraine ”
            (note - there is already no East and South ???))
            Read more: http: //www.km.ru/news/evrei_ukrainy_gotovy_k_soyuzu_s_
            -
            1.3 -..... "" ... it is Ukrainian Jewry that will become the locomotive that will dominate all the "lost" to Western civilization. The idea is brilliantly simple: within the European Union, a Jewish Union is formed, uniting all the Jewish communities of the continent, including the Ukrainian group. “I believe that Jewish communities should become a real family, as the peoples of a united Europe became it,” Kolomoisky.
            in 2010, the author of an article in KM only laughed .. "Although the Nazi train with a Jewish locomotive is not even an oxymoron, but a delirium tremens."

            Read more: http: //www.km.ru/news/evrei_ukrainy_gotovy_k_soyuzu_s_

            2 External causes:
            2.1. laid in the strategic policy course of the USA .. outlined by Brzezinski in April 1997 in the book “The Great Chessboard (American Dominance and its geostrategic imperatives) http://www.lib.ru/POLITOLOG/AMERICA/bzhezinskij.txt
            . where he considers the most important strategic goals of the United States - to spread its influence in Central Asia and the former Soviet Union (primarily to Russia, which occupies the largest area of ​​this space))
            Even then, a zone of conflict was defined in the interests of hegemony of the United States, which included the north of Africa, the Balkans. Gulf countries and Central Asia. EVERYTHING IS GOING ON THE AMERICAN PLAN ..
            The crisis of the United States-exacerbates and accelerates the struggle .. and wed to the world .. in the name of the salvation of America ..
            1. Atanda
              +1
              4 August 2014 01: 28
              But to whom are you telling this !? He understands everything perfectly, only at the subconscious level. And he does not need your hands, arguments and facts! He knows one thing - Russia is to blame for everything and the Russians!
              Russians chop Russians because Russians don't think their head off
              Ukrainians choose fools and scum - they are smart! they think! yelling about their nezalezhnosti as if they themselves are shocked by her and do not know what to do with her, but pride for "beauty" overwhelms! and then they say that Russia should have intervened in time! Yeltsin was right about one thing when he said: "Take as much sovereignty as you can take away!" I knew that Ukrainians would tear the navel out of greed! so that... crying I’ll drink for Ukraine! without clinking glasses ...
          2. +2
            2 August 2014 14: 52
            Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
            pro-Russian president was needed in Ukraine like air

            So it was necessary to choose all Ukrainian presidents in Moscow! To elect presidents in Moscow for a non-fallow Ukraine ... and from which candidates. Maybe American? like Yushchenko. Or Kravchuk - a former fighter of the OAUN UNSO, who received a term in 44 in 53 issued by Khrushchev and promoted to the party top in Ukraine.
            1. Atanda
              -1
              4 August 2014 00: 11
              That they have such an infectious disease there in Ukraine - Russia is to blame for everything! They choose thieves and Paskud as preziks, and again we are to blame!
              in Ukraine, air was needed like a pro-Russian president, not a grabber, but a crystal-clear honest man from the Russian world
              , and we have chosen a bastard, again! But no !: "Let it go" (well, that is, we, the Russians) and, voila !!!: - "You can make fun of the Ukrainians and their misfortune!" How can you not make fun of you ?! You say very cool things! Shevchenko was right: "In Russia, no matter what the tsar is, in Ukraine, no matter what the hetman is, no paddle."
            2. SAVA555.IVANOV
              0
              4 August 2014 03: 59
              The amers somehow get all sorts of Yushchenko, promote parashenko. And to nominate candidates under their control is not understood what I'm talking about, right?
          3. Atanda
            -1
            3 August 2014 23: 59
            Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
            Well, wait and see how our faith in you falls to zero.
            how did your I see you look forward to the collapse of Russia. I'm afraid we will disappoint you, but Russia is a woman with a buoy! So it’s better for you not to take your pants off with us. hi
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              1. Atanda
                -3
                4 August 2014 09: 34
                If you don’t have a persecution mania, that doesn’t mean that I don’t follow you! lol You surrendered to me to one place below your back! Go do a better job, and ... if you can’t write, don’t write! Luspekaeva from Ava get it, this one will suit you better:
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                  1. Atanda
                    -3
                    4 August 2014 14: 35
                    Don’t tell me what to do and I won’t tell who you suck! lol
                    1. SAVA555.IVANOV
                      0
                      4 August 2014 16: 37
                      Are you worried about homosexuality? Why are you talking with men on such topics ?? You already had experience, tell people how you did it, and if you are such patriots then you are no different from the Tolerasts of Europe, you need to snatch your tongue for propaganda of your inclinations. I went out to another site of the corresponding direction.
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        6. Fat frayer
          0
          2 August 2014 13: 05
          Good movie, but far-fetched. Everyone knew what they were fighting for. And so he fought. Those who did not fight hid in the woods. Smallholders peasants and stuff. For which later they were actually dispossessed.
        7. Leonidych
          +1
          2 August 2014 16: 21
          almost all countries went through civil wars and this was normal for a certain historical period, but when civil wars are unleashed artificially, as in Ukraine, Syria, Yugoslavia, Libya, etc., this is a crime and genocide, for which we must judge like criminals
        8. +2
          2 August 2014 22: 04
          So the time has come again obscurantism ... because of some sort of heap of money bags ...
      2. +5
        2 August 2014 07: 56
        Quote: nvv
        Further more.

        An ordinary traitor. Such a kind of Bulk of the time.
        1. nvv
          nvv
          +5
          2 August 2014 08: 38
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: nvv
          nvv

          And what did the Russians cut the video for Russian minuses? Or it wasn’t so, or maybe it’s just that the truth is pinching some eyes.

          Yes, most likely, in someone Trotsky came to life. It happens ...... But this is on the topic.
          1. +1
            2 August 2014 08: 47
            Quote: nvv
            . And here it is on the topic.

            For a long time it was necessary to do this, people who do not remember their past have no future.
            Yes, and some of the history of Russia on the ideology already twists.
            But nothing admirers of Lenin, how to go all your howl did not lead to anything. History puts everything and everyone in their place. After 100 years, our great-grandfathers receive recognition from their descendants, no matter how much you want.
            1. rodevaan
              +14
              2 August 2014 09: 46
              - But why? As for me, it’s red and white, if they are building a strong Russia, I will support anyone. I myself support the Reds, because on the site of the ruins of the collapsed Russian Empire and after the chaos of the Fratricidal War, they were able to build a much stronger Empire in a short time, which held the whole world in its fist, and was the first in almost all respects and directions!
              1. +1
                2 August 2014 18: 00
                Gold words. soldier That's right you said.
              2. Erg
                0
                3 August 2014 20: 50
                Eco You, my friend, think primitively. Lenin is red, Stalin is red, the rest of the leaders are also red. If you interfere with everything in one heap, then everything is very simple for you. I envy hi
            2. +1
              2 August 2014 14: 55
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              After 100 years, our great-grandfathers receive the recognition of their descendants, no matter how you want to.

              Here after a hundred years of truth we can’t find, and after another hundred years the devil himself will break his leg.
              1. 225chay
                0
                2 August 2014 22: 46
                Quote: shasherin.pavel
                Here after a hundred years of truth we can’t find, and after another hundred years the devil himself will break his leg.


                Truth will come out in millennia!
          2. +2
            2 August 2014 11: 37
            It’s correct that such a monument appeared.
            However, it was somehow deserted around him ... no one planted a tree ...
            And the wall is too small ... any "Bubka will step over".
            And there is no platoon quantitatively ... on this monument.
            But the platoon has several conceptual meanings ...
            But I liked the music!
            1. rodevaan
              +2
              2 August 2014 12: 19
              Quote: Lexi2
              It’s correct that such a monument appeared.
              However, it was somehow deserted around him ... no one planted a tree ...
              And the wall is too small ... any "Bubka will step over".
              And there is no platoon quantitatively ... on this monument.
              But the platoon has several conceptual meanings ...
              But I liked the music!


              - I don’t know why this project won. Much more interesting, majestic and beautiful projects than this one were put to the vote. 1914.histrf.ru/monument/voting/ - Look here. In my opinion, the best project was Project 01. Both the arch and the trinity of soldiers on the attack, against the background of the Orthodox cross, would much better reflect the full power of that army. I can’t understand why this one won. To me, he is not very honest, to be honest. It is not visible in him that power and greatness of the mighty Empire.
              1. +1
                2 August 2014 13: 03
                It is not visible in him that power and greatness of the mighty Empire.

                The empire was on its way to greatness. It is not good to wish out reality ... It is this way that the Russian Army defended.
                And everything that can be seen along with the monument is also a monument ... which "cocks" people.
                Just recently I was sitting near the monument to Lenin, resting like ... and around the shop and full of greenery. True ... some vacationers took the shops "across". laughing
                And this monument has some kind of business centers in the distance.
                1. rodevaan
                  0
                  2 August 2014 20: 22
                  “There were simply projects that you really look at — and you see the army of the Empire.” It is a pity that for some reason they were not approved ((.
            2. +1
              2 August 2014 14: 57
              Quote: Lexi2
              However, it is somehow deserted around him ...

              Could invite veterans! That's when the monument on the Kulikovo field was opened
              Tatars with documents of veterans came.
              1. 0
                3 August 2014 12: 37
                Could invite veterans! That's when the monument on the Kulikovo field was opened
                Tatars with documents of veterans came.

                Maybe you're right...
                You look at how the Communist Party celebrates their holidays and you immediately understand ... "Winter" has just been taken laughing According to rumors there were cellars with something there.
                And the leaders of the Communist Party and look for a shell for Aurora laughing By the way, where is the sleeve? That shot was ...
                detonated all of Russia ... from the wineries in Zimny.
        2. 0
          2 August 2014 08: 45
          But why flatter Navalny? laughing
          1. -4
            2 August 2014 08: 52
            Quote: tanit
            But why flatter Navalny?

            Yes, he is the same as Lenin. Only he advocated freedom of the people from the Monarchy, and this one from Putin.
            1. 0
              2 August 2014 08: 58
              And this is almost a national idea. laughing Have not you come yet? No? It’s strange.
            2. nvv
              nvv
              0
              2 August 2014 09: 03
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: tanit
              But why flatter Navalny?

              Yes, he is the same as Lenin. Only he advocated freedom of the people from the Monarchy, and this one from Putin.

              For a long time the mind did not take. For me, Lenin was the grandfather of Mazay, who saves hares. Understanding has come, only now, in the midst of years ....
              1. +5
                2 August 2014 09: 17
                Guys, do you know what Stalin said about Lenin? Do you think that unlike you, it didn’t even reach him?
                for example:
                What did it mean to raise a rebellion at such a moment? To raise a rebellion in such an environment was to put everything at stake. But Lenin was not afraid to take risks, for he knew, saw with his clairvoyant gaze, that the uprising is inevitable, that the uprising in Russia will prepare the end of the imperialist war, that the uprising in Russia will stir up the tormented masses of the West, that the uprising in Russia will turn the imperialist war into war civil, that the insurrection will give the Republic of Soviets, that the Republic of Soviets will serve as a bulwark of the revolutionary movement throughout the world.
                1. nvv
                  nvv
                  -1
                  2 August 2014 09: 27
                  Putin also calls all partners. So what? There is time, there is an awareness of all processes.
                  1. +1
                    2 August 2014 09: 38
                    I asked specifically about Stalin?
                    Do you put Putin on a par with Stalin? Then tell me bluntly that Stalin was hypocritical when speaking of Lenin.
                    Putin generally said a lot of things, for example about Stalin:
                    But all that positive, which, of course, was, nevertheless, achieved was an unacceptable price, repressions, nevertheless, took place to be - this is a fact. Millions of our fellow citizens suffered from them. And this way of governing the state, achieving the result is unacceptable - it is impossible. And of course, during this period we were faced not just with a personality cult, but with massive crimes against our own people
                    1. nvv
                      nvv
                      +5
                      2 August 2014 09: 52
                      I do not blame my president for these words. I understand him. He is a politician. And according to those words "that the Republic of Soviets will serve as a bulwark of the revolutionary movement throughout the world.
                      Stalin realized everything and did not throw Russia into the furnace of the World Revolution, began to build socialism in a single country, that is, with us.
                    2. +4
                      2 August 2014 12: 37
                      Putin is a politician, and therefore about I.V. To Stalin, he does not tell the truth. And the truth about Stalin is that Stalin turned out to be exactly at the time when Russia needed him. And thank God that Stalin I.V. was with Russia.
                      It is a pity that now Russia does not have such Stalin - the savior and keeper of Russia.
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjC3xYk2DmQ
                    3. +4
                      2 August 2014 12: 51
                      Quote: Gleb
                      But all that positive, which, of course, was, nevertheless, achieved was an unacceptable price, repressions, nevertheless, took place to be - this is a fact. Millions of our fellow citizens suffered from them. And this way of governing the state, achieving a result is unacceptable - it is impossible

                      But Putin may have told how to revive a country from ashes to space in 12 years?
                      Or maybe he said how else could Hitler be defeated?
                      Too many smarts in hindsight - but put Putin in the place of Stalin - and he would not have remained a saint ... Those were not the times ...
                      1. +1
                        2 August 2014 19: 50
                        Quote: Selevc
                        put Putin in the place of Stalin

                        Put any of us in Stalin's place, he would have gone crazy on the third day. After all, no one remembers that at the beginning of his reign, there were multi-party functionaries in the government, and everyone tried to put a spoke in the wheel, because Stalin's successes did not allow them to come to power. Stalin, like Ivan the Terrible and Peter the First, had to remove in order to achieve his goal, to strengthen the state, capable of resisting external enemies, internal enemies. When the war began, it was we who did not have fascism, which flooded the governments of other countries, and did not have a "fifth column" from which Great Britain suffered.
                      2. +1
                        3 August 2014 20: 22
                        Quote: shasherin.pavel
                        When the war started, it was precisely we who didn’t have fascism,

                        How could we have fascism if the idiology of the USSR and the idiology of Germany were opposite? The ideology of Germany was based on the superiority of some races over others, and the idiology of the USSR, on the contrary, was based on the equality of nations and the friendship of peoples !!!
                      3. Erg
                        -2
                        3 August 2014 21: 07
                        Stalin got such a country - Mama, don't worry. Ilyich's law on the "socialization of women" alone is worth a lot. Wake up (this is me to many here) and at least slightly take an interest in what happened in Russia from 1905 to 1927 hi
                      4. +1
                        3 August 2014 23: 56
                        Quote: Erg
                        Stalin got such a country - Mama, don't worry. Ilyich's law on the "socialization of women" alone is worth a lot.

                        That you dear wake up !!! For the sake of interest, wander around the center of any of the major cities of Western Russia or Eastern Ukraine ...
                        Take for example my native Kharkov - Damn almost any beautiful building in the city center - the beginning of the 20th century, that neither a scientist nor an artist lived the same period again ... In the 20s, the famous Laboratory No. 1 operated in Kharkov (for those who does not know Laboratory No. 2 - this is modern Arzamas 16) - world-famous names in the field of nuclear physics from Germany and other countries came to work with us ...
                        In the 20s of the last century, a whole galaxy of constructivist architects worked in our city ... Now specialists from Europe come to Europe to look at the work of the great ... During this period, world-famous doctors and famous poets lived and worked with us , directors and theatergoers ...
                        Erg, if you want to know the truth about a certain period of history, you need to communicate with people working in archives - and not just pull some random quotes out of the general context ...
                    4. +1
                      2 August 2014 19: 40
                      Quote: Gleb
                      positive, which certainly was,

                      The revolutionary positive of liberating the people from the dependence of the bourgeoisie, when the people felt like a particle of the state, not the property of the employer, and such a dipositive came to our country with perestroika. And now virtue, not the state, is saving mortally ill children. The plunderers of billions from the state treasury become ministers, but the state has no money to treat children.
                      Quote: Gleb
                      achieved was an unacceptable price

                      In the unforgettable years of perestroika, cemetery workers noted and told me about the fourth wave of mortality: did not understand what it was about? I will explain: in the Murmansk morgue, the dead were not managed to be processed and the troupes were folded in winter under a stone fence so that they could not be seen from the windows of the houses. It may remind you of how Pochinik reported that people living below the poverty line became 2 million less than last year. To which Zhirinovsky remarked to him that the number of deaths in the country was 2 more than last year. If we imagine that during the 4 of the war, the USSR lost at the front from the enemy fire, according to statistics, 8 millions, then during perestroika we lost as much as for every year of the war. Death mowed down people as from a machine gun and this is in peacetime. And how many lives were lost in civil wars in the name of democracy? Are the victims acceptable ?!
                      Quote: Gleb
                      However,

                      Need to explain the linguistics of this phrase? I'll try this: Last quarter we executed the plan at 102%, but nonetheless, the mice ruined the twelve bags of sugar.
                      All this is associated for me
                      Quote: Gleb
                      with massive crimes against their own people
                2. +1
                  2 August 2014 19: 17
                  Quote: Gleb
                  you know what Stalin said about Lenin

                  Scientists came to the conclusion that the phrase about Stalin was inserted into the document later, even after V.O.V. If Lenin said this about Stalin, then he blamed on the mirror, only there is still a difference, Lenin did not have to fight the "fifth column" in the form of Trotsky - that cannibal is a cannibal, and they are now trying to copy the blood he shed on Stalin, Tukhachevsky - who expressed a desire to use poisonous substances against his people. "Dushka" Lenin also loved to cruelly strangle his opponents, and even more abruptly than Stalin.
                  Quote: Gleb
                  The Republic of Soviets will serve as a bulwark of the revolutionary movement throughout the world.

                  And here is the honest truth: the USSR became the first country in the world where workers had paid holidays, free medical care, a five-day working week, which was canceled in 39 due to the war with Finland, an eight-hour working day, disability or age pension limit. If this is not a revolution, then what is it? But the world got it through the October Revolution. Some make demands on the revolution that many countries of civilized Europe do not withstand in our time, and in England at that time, an 8-year-old child was condemned to hard labor for a stolen loaf of bread. There is a tendency to whitewash all those executed after the revolution and at the same time write epitaphs like "Innocent Victims of Repression". And thus they want to assert that in this case, in Stalin's times there were no murderers, zoophiles, sadists, traitors to the revolution, punishers of the white movement, embezzlers of large state funds, and so on and so forth. All those executed were "innocent victims of repression". So Stalin, as the head of the repressions, and the accused of them, created an ideal society, to which we have not grown, since we have Chikatil and others as much as 2. And Stalin has not a single reptile, all angels are in the flesh! You have to think what you are doing! Put monuments to criminals because of political land. Maybe Chikatilo will be awarded a separate monument with you ?! Like a victim of democracy.
              2. +5
                2 August 2014 09: 21
                And the understanding about Navalny has already come? And Lenin’s grandfather with his kind squint-do not touch !!!! wink
                1. nvv
                  nvv
                  0
                  2 August 2014 09: 35
                  Quote: tanit
                  And the understanding about Navalny has already come? And Lenin’s grandfather with his kind squint-do not touch !!!! wink

                  Not good, cunning.
                  1. +2
                    2 August 2014 09: 44
                    Good and cunning.
                    1. nvv
                      nvv
                      +2
                      2 August 2014 10: 00
                      Well persuaded. I agree. Nostalgia.
                      1. nvv
                        nvv
                        +4
                        2 August 2014 10: 15
                        Guys, I'm sorry. Today is a holiday. I am leaving you. drinks soldier
                    2. -1
                      2 August 2014 10: 32
                      Most likely mistaken, but it is possible that vile and corrupt ...
                      Although for what is it sold? For a wicker chair and a sloppy cap ... Yes, nooo ... For the recognition of obviously flawed and perverted ideas from the Gospel that the shaggy Karl-Marla soldered to him in a pumpkin ...
                      There they later rotted safely ...
                      1. 0
                        2 August 2014 10: 56
                        Quote: Ptah
                        ... For the recognition of knowingly flawed and perverted ideas from the Gospel

                        Sorry Vadim, plus you stuck for this nechaino. Although I wanted to put a minus so that I could bite my tongue. Until it started
                      2. +2
                        2 August 2014 11: 50
                        I think I get it. Which is unclear. Does it seem like I'm blaming the gospel? From here and "began"?
                        No, it is not. The Bible was never scolded by me, but I wanted to say something that few people dispute - many of the postulates of communism are written off from the statement of the Gospel, but the ideas of Marxism-Leninism were often, if not distorted, then reinterpreted in their own way ...

                        And this is proved by the rebellion, or rather by fierce hatred of the original worldviews of Russians over the 10 centuries, the first Leninz-Trotsky-Sverdlov ...

                        And what will the current adherents of communism answer, and in my opinion, the term is incorrect - more precisely, by the social democrats, to, shall we say, "reconciliation of communism with the church"?
                        Are they acceptable, if not unity, then "following a parallel course"? Without causing mutual hatred and acting in the interests of Russia?
                        But before 39, this was not observed ...
                      3. 0
                        2 August 2014 20: 05
                        Quote: Ptah
                        And this is proved by the rebellion,

                        History shows that not only Christianity fought so fiercely against heretics, for example, the Adamites in Europe, who lived strictly according to the communal principles of the first Apostles of Jesus Christ, but also any other "new at that time" confession. You just need to remember where "Satan" came from in the Bible: 1500 years before Christ, the nomads captured Egypt and ordered from the Egyptian Bozi of the Sun or the Light "Set" and Bozi from the nomads of the sky "She" to create a single Seton, which the Egyptians rejected from their belief after liberation from the power of nomads. So a dark angel appeared, thrown from heaven and he became Satan. It was then that he was given a translation, as opposed, and the devil - a slanderer. Therefore, there is a statement that the devil can take the form of "light", because he was originally a bosie of light and the Sun.
                      4. -2
                        2 August 2014 19: 53
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        plus you stuck for this nechaino

                        Again, someone gives us marks. I have already had five times, if you want to cross it out, but there are more of them. Do you want to put a plus, but ...
                      5. rodevaan
                        +1
                        3 August 2014 17: 54
                        - Offig! Healthy guys, and like kids in the kindergarten, they’re sitting here crying for minuses / pluses ... A forum is an opportunity to express your opinion, rather than stuffing points, pluses, goals or something else ... Strange people. Sasha - it’s so important for you - who puts what to you there?
                        In general, I don’t put any minuses or pluses to anyone, and I don’t pay attention to who puts what to me there - if I agree or disagree, it’s better to write directly about it.
                2. 11111mail.ru
                  +2
                  2 August 2014 15: 48
                  Quote: tanit
                  And Lenin’s grandfather with his kind squint-do not touch !!!!

                  And what about Rosalia Samuilovna Zalkind ("Countrywoman")? Shay Goloshchekina, Yakov Yurovsky?
                  1. +1
                    2 August 2014 17: 38
                    But not like that. They did not fit into the legend of the good grandfather. So, grandchildren should not be told. Although about Comrade Camo and Moabit Prison, I still tell)))
                    1. 11111mail.ru
                      +1
                      2 August 2014 20: 25
                      Quote: tanit
                      They did not fit into the legend of the good grandfather. So, grandchildren should not be told.

                      No, dear, the criminals must not be forgotten, otherwise those who follow "he" k "s have a chance to leave bloodied victims behind.
                  2. rodevaan
                    +1
                    3 August 2014 18: 02
                    Quote: 11111mail.ru
                    Quote: tanit
                    And Lenin’s grandfather with his kind squint-do not touch !!!!

                    And what about Rosalia Samuilovna Zalkind ("Countrywoman")? Shay Goloshchekina, Yakov Yurovsky?


                    - I see you don’t really like Lenin! Wherever you mention the word Lenin - and your nickname immediately magically appears immediately!
              3. -2
                2 August 2014 10: 37
                Quote: nvv
                Understanding has come, only now, in the midst of years ....
                It has not come to you and apparently will never come again. For
                Quote: nvv
                for years ....
                1. +1
                  2 August 2014 11: 02
                  Quote: baltika-18
                  .For

                  The Master blinded himself a night pot and used it for a long time until ........... For the understanding came to the night pot that it was not made for urine. And said the pot to his master who blinded him is NOT YOU and not FOR THAT I was created. The potter who created the night pot smiled and smashed it against the wall and made a new one. And that old pot, broken, shut up forever and was thrown out in the dustbin as unnecessary. He rotted the pot in the dustbin and no one remembered it anymore.
                  They don’t remember about many who were banned from the site and who have been cherishing the Orthodox Faith for centuries. There were no more of them. Because the pot is just a night pot.
                  1. +3
                    2 August 2014 11: 40
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    They don’t remember many who were banned from the site and who have cried for the Orthodox Faith for centuries.
                    laughing And you, Alexander, as I understand it, imagines himself to be the hands of God in this place.
                    The parable is good. A man really is a vessel in fact, but with an anthropomorphic essence given to him (in the religion of the soul). Do you know what the task of this design is? Try to become a man. And you know, Sasha, over the past thousand years not a single vessel on planet Earth has He didn’t become a man in full, because he could not connect with his essence.
                    1. -1
                      2 August 2014 20: 15
                      Quote: baltika-18
                      Try to become a man.

                      And by writing this, can you give a precise definition of the word "person"? Here you have to think about it, since there is no explanation of it in reference books and dictionaries. I will also continue: God created man. One person, at least was, even if not to the end of his life. But to assert that Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Nazareth = from the city of Nazareth, and Nazareth is excommunicated from society or church) could not become a man! Maybe you haven't read the Bible either?
                2. nvv
                  nvv
                  0
                  3 August 2014 05: 14
                  I answer retroactively, it just so happened. A man becomes a man only when he realizes his mistakes and corrects them. But don't be upset. You are still ahead.
              4. Erg
                -2
                3 August 2014 20: 55
                The same situation. About 5-7 years ago I became interested in this topic. Now I am sure that the USSR is Stalin. Lenin is the lackey of Parvus, Judas, on whose conscience tens of millions of lives ... hi
            3. rodevaan
              +9
              2 August 2014 09: 53
              - Well, you compared, dear! Who is Lenin and who is there some kind of Oval-Vaginal? Lenin is a world-class politician who was able to bring to life the fundamentally new ideas of social equality and build on these ideas a fundamentally new state that for 70 years made Russia the strongest Empire on the planet. The ideas of Lenin were picked up by half the world, and these ideas have been fought with the western colonial bandit cattle for almost a century.
              And who is this small, modern, swampy, mercantile bipod that no one knows, and that is yapping from under the floor, what will Fashington say? And which represents the interests of a handful of some redials in the form of all sorts of cryo-defenders, NGOs and other overseas jugglers? Almost 100% of the Russian people of any social status despise these henchmen conducting Amer’s politics here ..
              Millions supported Lenin, and only the State Department supports this rag.

              I understand that today it’s still not out of fashion to irrigate Lenin and communism with dermis, but it’s still unknown what would happen to Russia if it had not been revived in the guise of the USSR. Would she be now? Maybe the Lord saved Russia from complete collapse and dismemberment by transforming it into the USSR, with the help of Lenin. No one knows what would happen if.
              Lenin is not my idol, but those and others who consider him an agent of the West are deeply mistaken. Why would an agent of the West revive Russia, and even in such a powerful form as the USSR, when the whole West, at one word "Soviets" and "Russians", involuntarily urinated in its pants.
              1. +5
                2 August 2014 10: 20
                Quote: rodevaan
                I understand that today it’s still not out of fashion and the trend to water Lenin and communism with dermis

                The day before yesterday there was curious news - Putin's rewarding of various figures and, among others, Zyuganov's reward, an interesting case, Zyuganov is not a journalist, not an athlete or a scientist, why would a capital representative give a state award to a representative of the doctrine of social equality, I somehow recalled Zyuganov out of 90 -x and his "Yeltsin's gang down with", Yeltsin is not, and the "gang" is more alive than all the living, a curious thing
                1. rodevaan
                  +4
                  2 August 2014 10: 36
                  Quote: saag
                  Quote: rodevaan
                  I understand that today it’s still not out of fashion and the trend to water Lenin and communism with dermis

                  The day before yesterday there was curious news - Putin's rewarding of various figures and, among others, Zyuganov's reward, an interesting case, Zyuganov is not a journalist, not an athlete or a scientist, why would a capital representative give a state award to a representative of the doctrine of social equality, I somehow recalled Zyuganov out of 90 -x and his "Yeltsin's gang down with", Yeltsin is not, and the "gang" is more alive than all the living, a curious thing


                  - Well, since such a song, it is also unclear to me why Chubais is kept with his retinue and reassigned this thief in the square to all sorts of posts, why the gang is really more alive than all the living ..
                2. +2
                  2 August 2014 12: 23
                  Quote: saag
                  The day before yesterday there was interesting news - Putin's rewarding of various figures and, among others, rewarding of Zyuganov, an interesting case

                  Communists shut up, oh shut up!
                  According to common sense, Sue should not have accepted the award if he really considers himself a communist ...
              2. 0
                2 August 2014 11: 37
                Quote: rodevaan
                Lenin is a world-class politician

                Follow the people after him, and he could follow him if the situation in the country were, as in 1998, and Anal would become a world figure.
                Quote: rodevaan
                Maybe the Lord saved Russia from complete collapse and dismemberment by transforming it into the USSR, with the help of Lenin. No one knows what would happen if.

                Rather, he punished for turning away from Faith and destroying the Temples.
                Quote: rodevaan
                Why on earth would an agent of the West revive Russia,

                Did he revive her? What was Russia in 1922, hunger and bast shoes. Stalin then did quite a bit, but that was far after.
                1. +2
                  2 August 2014 12: 29
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Did he revive her? What was Russia in 1922, hunger and bast shoes.

                  Excuse me, Alexander, but Russia on the 22nd was not much different from Russia until the 17th. Lapti, they, you know, didn’t appear in the 17th.
                  Lenin’s merit in terms of revival is collecting RI fragments into a single whole, but somehow it’s not customary to recall this ... Not comme il faut in the current situevina ...
                2. rodevaan
                  +8
                  2 August 2014 12: 32
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Did he revive her? What was Russia in 1922, hunger and bast shoes. Stalin then did quite a bit, but that was far after.


                  - Wow "far later" !! From the end of the Civil War to the gigantic industrial upsurge, only 8-10 years have passed! The civil war ended in 22 (even in 23), and industrialization, the fight against illiteracy, the fight against homelessness and the rise of the national economy was already in full swing at the end of the 20s! Mines, factories, enterprises were restored, schools and hospitals were built. And this is AFTER 2 of the bloodiest wars that passed through the country like a fiery roller and that Russia has ever fought before! And there was hunger and sandals! And in such a short time, the Bolsheviks turned hungry bast shoes into a powerful power, reborn from the ashes! And don't deny the obvious! This required colossal sacrifices. But could it be otherwise for the revival of the country in that harsh, terrible time? For comparison - in 23 years from 1990 to 2014, in an absolutely peaceful "shitty" time, when for more than 10 years the country was ruled by a pro-Western liberoid gang of thieves and robbers, the country almost fell apart and turned into a destroyed and plundered territory on the example of the Russian Empire period 1918-19. By the way, the new Russia, in contrast to the young Soviet state, had a colossal and richest backlog, inherited from the USSR. And then - gobble up everything, but still could not plunder. More or less, Putin began to pull the country out of the dermis, starting in 2010 ... And the USSR, counting from scratch, rose. So don't! If we now with this liberoid government found ourselves in the situation of 1922, I’m even scared to say what would happen to the country.
                3. rodevaan
                  +2
                  2 August 2014 12: 45
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Rather, he punished for turning away from Faith and destroying the Temples.


                  - Do not say what you do not know! The ways of the Lord are mysterious, and it is not possible for us to know in what ways the Lord saved our country.
                  1. 0
                    2 August 2014 20: 35
                    Quote: rodevaan
                    and the temples destroyed.

                    But you know that Denikin had a whole cavalry regiment, consisting exclusively of clergymen, they even went in horse robes in horse robes, but fell into a machine-gun ambush and were mowed down by the flanking fire of machine guns. Now it remains to add them to the list of innocently killed by the Communists, although in the civil revolution the Communists were in the majority but did not make up 100% in the government. Mensheviks, Social Revolutionaries, Anarchists and Trotskyists.
                    1. rodevaan
                      0
                      2 August 2014 21: 15
                      - I did not say anything about the Temples - this is a blatant postscript!))
              3. 11111mail.ru
                +2
                2 August 2014 16: 28
                Quote: rodevaan
                and build on these ideas a fundamentally new state,

                Quote: rodevaan
                transforming it into the USSR, with the help of Lenin.

                Lenin had little time for construction: from December 30, 1922 to March 9, 1923 (1 + 31 + 28 + 9 = 69 days). Since March 9, 1923 it has been a half-corpse. Then there was the party struggle inside, ending with the expulsion from the country of Leiba Bronstein in 1929. Only after that was I.V. Stalin able to start building a socialist state.
                1. rodevaan
                  +1
                  2 August 2014 19: 39
                  Quote: 11111mail.ru
                  Quote: rodevaan
                  and build on these ideas a fundamentally new state,

                  Quote: rodevaan
                  transforming it into the USSR, with the help of Lenin.

                  Lenin had little time for construction: from December 30, 1922 to March 9, 1923 (1 + 31 + 28 + 9 = 69 days). Since March 9, 1923 it has been a half-corpse. Then there was the party struggle inside, ending with the expulsion from the country of Leiba Bronstein in 1929. Only after that was I.V. Stalin able to start building a socialist state.


                  “You better not tear out the pieces of text you like best, and don't make yourself a wise guy,” but read my comment again. Lenin began to build a fundamentally new state and continued Stalin, and I did not indicate what specifically Lenin did, and what Stalin, the essence of my comment was different - in building a fundamentally new state in a fairly short time and on rather ruinous soil left after Civil and World War I.
                  I do not see the deep meaning in your comment.
                  1. 11111mail.ru
                    +2
                    2 August 2014 21: 06
                    Quote: rodevaan
                    I do not see the deep meaning in your comment.

                    It was expected, I’m not going to blame you for the same thing. Let's continue:
                    Quote: rodevaan
                    ... and on the rather ruinous soil left after the Civil and the First World War.

                    As for the transformation of imperialist war into civil war - whose thesis is this? Who put it into practice?
                    Quote: rodevaan
                    the essence of my comment was different - in building a fundamentally new state in a fairly short time ...

                    I immediately remembered a cartoon character with big ears: "we built, we built and, finally, we built." All efforts of Vladimir Ilyich to "build a fundamentally new state in a fairly short time and on a rather ruinous soil ..." (your quote) ended with a negative result, which was clearly demonstrated by the Kronstadt uprising in March 1921 and its bloody suppression. Therefore, Ilyich had to, without giving a damn about his own ideas, in order to survive, to announce the transition ... to NEP, i.e. new economic policy. NEP and the policy of communization of everything and everyone, including women, are still alternative things. Thank God, the comrade didn’t have time to write something like "One step back - two steps forward" on the mountain to future students. Would you please read a quote from His speech at the 3rd Congress of the RKSM? "And that generation, which is now 15 years old, will see the communist society."
                    Correctly his English science fiction writer "calculated": "the Kremlin dreamer." So dear, the builder of the state from him turned out to be ... to put it mildly "none".
              4. +1
                2 August 2014 20: 25
                Quote: rodevaan
                No one knows what would happen if.

                I know for sure: they would bow to Mercedes and say: Barin is going. There would be no pensions, medical treatment, vacations, and an eight-hour working day.
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            4. +8
              2 August 2014 10: 06
              Let’s not touch Lenin, as practice shows, for a lot of things it wasn’t all written down to draw conclusions and indiscriminately great people (and the fact that Lenin is great is indisputable) you just need to be proud of your homeland. And I know about revolution and pre-revolutionary life from my grandfather, he was from his father (great-grandfather) and so he said: the idea was good, but the fulfillment ...... After all, most of the people really lived under oppression. And with Navalny it’s not even necessary to put close with Lenin, this gni.de needs only power and he doesn’t give a damn about the people, just like gutting, under the leadership of the owners. If God forbid, IT comes to power, waiting for us is even worse than in Ukraine, respectively, the death of Russia. By the way, why only it is customary for us to spoil the history of our country, you tell the Americans that their country was founded by murderers and prostitutes by destroying the indigenous population of the Indians so that they will tear you like a heating pad. And with us, after having read any unproven junk, we begin to consider ourselves an expert ..........
              In addition, the US must be destroyed
              1. rodevaan
                +5
                2 August 2014 10: 47
                - I speak for what, to compare the leader and thinker of the world scale with the selling whore of a small-town brawl, of which the State Department has thousands of them, is complete rubbish and frank stupidity. And in order to grope Lenin, one must at least 1/10 get closer to his vision of the world and state situation. Lenin was building a new state and a fundamentally new society, which no one had ever built before. No wonder Lenin's ideas were picked up and put at the head of development in many countries of the world.
                I will say this - if the Russian Empire had everything in chocolate and the people lived happily ever after - no Lenin and no Bolsheviks would have come to power. They would simply be sent in 3 Soviet letters. The tsar and his cabinet ministered and ruined in the furnace of the First World Country, and showed that they were unable to rule the Empire. And the people saw and felt this. Therefore, the Bolsheviks and Lenin were supported by many millions of our fellow citizens (including very many tsarist generals and officers) who went not to the White, but to the Red Army. And since the monarchy was incapable of governing the state, then power passed into the hands of those who turned out to be ABLE and governing, and raising the country of their ruins and chaos and developing it to a higher level.
                1. rodevaan
                  +2
                  2 August 2014 12: 42
                  No matter how anyone liked to hear it, a lot of common people, soldiers and officers supported the Reds, because they saw very well and felt on themselves where the tsarist / monarchical "rule" would lead. There would be no collapse - no one would have changed the established foundations of the state system and government so radically for centuries. And if it happened so, then the power led by the tsar turned out to be UNCAPABLE to lead the country out of the impasse and abyss. It is obvious.
                2. +7
                  2 August 2014 13: 13
                  The fundamental difference between Lenin and bulk, Kerensky, Germans and the like is that the West was mistaken in the first - they thought that they would rule Lenin, and he started such a thing that all of Russia turned upside down, Kaiser Germany fell and the whole Anglo-Saxon world shook ... And such a red shake of the foundations of the bourgeois West ended only at the end of the 70s of the 20th century ... But Stalin, he relied on Lenin's ideas and became their implementer ...
                  And all evil spirits like Kerensky, bulk, Germans, Kasparovs - they don’t even especially hide the fact that they are puppets ... They are even proud of it ... They always had one order - DESTRUCTION OF RUSSIA by any means ...
                  1. rodevaan
                    +1
                    2 August 2014 16: 17
                    Quote: Selevc
                    The fundamental difference between Lenin and bulk, Kerensky, Germans and the like is that the West was mistaken in the first - they thought that they would rule Lenin, and he started such a thing that all of Russia turned upside down, Kaiser Germany fell and the whole Anglo-Saxon world shook ... And such a red shake of the foundations of the bourgeois West ended only at the end of the 70s of the 20th century ... But Stalin, he relied on Lenin's ideas and became their implementer ...
                    And all evil spirits like Kerensky, bulk, Germans, Kasparovs - they don’t even especially hide the fact that they are puppets ... They are even proud of it ... They always had one order - DESTRUCTION OF RUSSIA by any means ...


                    - That's right! I completely agree.
              2. 0
                2 August 2014 12: 58
                Quote: jPilot
                And with Navalny you don’t even have to put close with Lenin
                You need to put Navalny on a par with False Dmitry and Kerensky - you feel the same handwriting !!! The only difference is that the second two seized power and the first is only torn ...
            5. +4
              2 August 2014 12: 48
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Yes, he is the same as Lenin. Only he advocated freedom of the people from the Monarchy.

              When Lenin came to power, the monarchy in Russia had already been deposed ... And who is to blame for the fact that the ruling clan of Romanovs in Russia for 300 years was overthrown by some faceless crowd of newcomers "Navalny"? Kerensky is their face ...
        3. +5
          2 August 2014 10: 34
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          An ordinary traitor. Such a kind of Bulk of the time.
          Romanov to say that you do not see anything beyond your nose, this is to say nothing. But this is not your fault, this is your trouble. And not only yours, this is the trouble of many. There is a lot of husk, the grain of truth is not visible in the pile of this husk. Remember Sasha , the "red project" in particular, and the socialist idea in general, this is, in your terminology, a project of God. This is a kind of test of the pen, a test of all ideas and plans. And soon the second phase of this project will come. And everyone can be convinced of this. So the Romanov dynasty , I'm sorry, but this was not a creature of God. And she finished the way he needed. And the creatures of God at that stage were just Lenin, and then Stalin. There were two stages in the history of Russia, when the country was helped from outside, so let's say not from our space-time continuum. This is the period from 1917 to 1927, and the period from 1940 to 1950.
          PS The selection of photos in the article is very interesting. The article is a definite plus.
          1. 0
            2 August 2014 10: 46
            Quote: baltika-18
            Romanov to say that you do not see anything beyond your nose, this is to say nothing.

            Kolya, send you to hell?
            And I’ll tell you so for ***** you and yours are the ones who thought of winning Russia over there. It’s not for you to decide how it will be, but Russia will be the winner, Vera. You can break your comp from anger.
            And do not say for God, you will never know HIS thoughts.
            1. +3
              2 August 2014 11: 22
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Kolya, send you to hell?
              You can send of course, but nothing will change from this.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Might anger break your comp.
              And why did you get that I'm angry? I sympathize with you.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And do not say for God, you will never know HIS thoughts.
              We'll wait and see ......... 2 years Alexander. Well, I say 17 years he is in this century.
              1. -2
                2 August 2014 11: 33
                Quote: baltika-18
                We'll wait and see ......... 2 years Alexander. Well, I say 17 years he is in this century.

                How 2 years ?????????? Tyzh told me that everything happened this year. The dates on the top moved or began to doubt, it happens.
                I say, as cho will decide not for you.
                1. +3
                  2 August 2014 12: 20
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Tyzh told me that everything will happen this year.
                  I think I said “not even five years will pass.” Or for a Christian there is the concept of “a lie for good”? This is the first. Well, the second is not so wrong. The beginning is really already laid this year and the events taking place in the world confirmation of this.
            2. +5
              2 August 2014 13: 01
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And do not say for God, you will never know HIS thoughts.

              Excuse me, Alexander, once again, that I am interfering in your discussion.
              God can open his thoughts to anyone, no one can be an exception.
              But who exactly Revelation will descend to is a big question, so it’s better not to be so categorical.
              1. +1
                2 August 2014 15: 22
                And there will be a vision for him, and an angel will come down from heaven and say to him. Plus.
          2. +3
            2 August 2014 10: 48
            Quote: baltika-18
            And soon the second phase of this project will come

            I also assume this, because it’s better they still haven’t come up with anything :-)
        4. rodevaan
          +3
          2 August 2014 13: 04
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: nvv
          Further more.

          An ordinary traitor. Such a kind of Bulk of the time.


          - Alexander, you are talking nonsense! Of course this is your opinion, which has a right to exist. But only a complete fool can compare Oval-Anal and Lenin. Excuse me for my treasury French.
          Just because these are absolutely incomparable values, both on the world and historical maps.
          And Lenin's contribution to the history and formation of our country is enormous, because his influence marked a whole era in the development of the Empire and the nation-wide idea of ​​this empire. Lenin’s contribution to world history is enormous, if only because Lenin’s ideas and projects have had a tremendous impact on the development of the politics and economics of so many countries - almost the whole world, I’m not afraid of this word! Lenin was a thinker and revolutionary, tactician, organizer and inspirer of a completely new political trend in the world, which had a huge impact on world order in the 20th century.
          What is compared with this man - a petty selling flea of ​​the State Department Navalny? I am not talking about the support of millions of people around the world. I want to at least find out what this flea has done at least at the local district level near Moscow so that at least 1/10 of the population knows it, at least in Russia, and not a narrow circle of NGOs paid from across the ocean?
          It is very strange to me that for you it is one and the same. This shows only a narrow horizons, no more, forgive my frankness.
      3. Fat frayer
        0
        2 August 2014 12: 56
        If everything was so simple, they would have sent someone to the United States long ago))
      4. Leonidych
        +1
        2 August 2014 16: 18
        nonsense! Russia was destroyed by the February revolution, which was organized by the Masons, and Lenin picked up the wallowing power, and put things in order and built a strong state. And stop referring to Western authors, they are of little use and truth
    2. +4
      2 August 2014 05: 54
      Russia must prevent the regular troops of the Russian Federation from being drawn into the war in Ukraine. As long as GDP succeeds.

      And yet. Yesterday, I did not post successfully the photo about the reservists and conscripts, what happens, I admit a mistake.
      1. VICTOR-61
        +9
        2 August 2014 06: 36
        You don’t need to bring in troops, but help the militia must-so that the fascist corrupt bastard does not creep in Ukraine
        1. 0
          2 August 2014 08: 14
          Quote: VICTOR-61
          so that the fascist corrupt scum spread throughout Ukraine

          She already crawled.
    3. +4
      2 August 2014 06: 11
      Hmm ... If we remember the lessons of history everything will be fine !!! Shapkozakidatelstvo does not bring to good ... !!! Everything has its time!!!
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        1. +1
          2 August 2014 09: 16
          Quote: nvv
          Romanov, where are you now? Judging by the flag, I'm lying on the beach, am I warming myself?

          No, I’m at home now, I’m drinking beer. I came only after dinner. Yes and there is not much sun now, we got the cyclones.
    4. +1
      2 August 2014 12: 03
      Someone just need war? to whom ??

      http://cryptome.org/2014-info/gaza-6-eyes-km/gaza-6-eyes-km.htm
      . The picture is worth a look .. Israel’s operation the entire arsenal of weapons ..
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  3. +9
    2 August 2014 06: 03
    The date is certainly not a pleasant one.
    And then the "allies" acted despicably. To save their soldiers, hiding behind, allegedly, a difficult situation in the front sector, they asked the Russians for help on an offensive, a breakthrough, etc.
    Now in the west we have practically no allies. All this pack combined with one goal - to bring Russia to its knees.
    Sew you!
    1. +3
      2 August 2014 06: 33
      Well then, supposedly? France would have a real kerdyk if the Russian Empire hadn’t attacked and killed the best soldiers. The most unfunny, in this First war the same French laid down more than in the Second.
      1. -1
        2 August 2014 08: 31
        I agree with you.
      2. -1
        2 August 2014 09: 14
        Quote: tanit
        in this First War the same French fell more than in the Second.

        In World War II, Stalin did not send Russian soldiers to save France, so they got the kirdyk in two weeks. And in two weeks, how much will you gain? Please note that Rotmister60 did not agree with me, but with Tanit.
        1. -1
          2 August 2014 09: 19
          Quote: shasherin.pavel

          In World War II, Stalin did not send Russian soldiers to save France, so they got the kirdyk in two weeks.

          For what two weeks ????????? The corps in France continued to fight, even after the overthrow of the Monarchy by faithful oaths. Even in France their memory is respected, and you sit and spit on the soldiers. Two weeks to thine yours. You would go to the front send, at least to Ukraine, then learn to honor the memory of the dead.
          1. +1
            2 August 2014 10: 39
            In two weeks of World War II ... When France fell without Russian soldiers. What are you reading?
        2. +1
          2 August 2014 09: 34
          I will explain. Not Tanit, but Tanit. Not the Goddess of the Moon of an extinct people. A true enemy in the language of a nation not yet extinct. And the theme is about the First, Comrade Stalin did not personally participate in it as commander in chief. I do not pay attention to who agrees with whom. But he personally addressed you.
          1. +2
            2 August 2014 09: 50
            There are a lot of monuments dangling in France and finally we have opened. This is France
            1. 0
              2 August 2014 09: 53
              And the Greeks? Ours also fought there. I just don’t know, is there the same Memorial there?
              1. 0
                2 August 2014 10: 46
                Quote: tanit
                I just don’t know, is there the same Memorial there?

                Of course, there is not only the First World War.
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          2. +1
            2 August 2014 11: 06
            Quote: tanit
            Not Tanit, but Tanit

            I apologize, of course, I did not know, since I did not find this in the dictionary. It's just that the comment was without a quote, and only by time can you understand who you approve, so he made a change. Do not tell me from which language of the extinct people "tanit" is taken. Just working on the translation of church glories. The Bible had to collect all the idols in a table so that it was clear who Rafaim, Baal, Balaam and others were, but I did not come across a tanit. And my comment was on the phrase about the difference in losses in the First and Second World War among the French. Use quoting more often so that when your comments. move down it was clear to whom he refers. And one more thing: God is written with a capital letter, and "bozi" of the Moon or someone else, these are not "gods" but idols - three-dimensional images, flat idols and totems, and "bozi" are living people who are treated like to idols and idols. There is also a difference in the Bible when pagan "gods" are written with a small letter, but only God - He is One and in the plural write "gods" is the same illiteracy. There is the biblical word "bozi", which the serpent first applied to Eve: Eat the fruits of this tree and become like a bozi. "The word was replaced by" gods "by the communists when publishing the Bible in 1963 and 67, duplicating Martin Luther's Bible with their mistakes. could use the Russian Church Slavonic Bible of 1900. It is more complete and the details given in it have less confusion than the European edition.The Russian Bible Society has already published the Bible in 2005, correcting grammatical errors in the Gospels, and in 2011, correcting errors in the Old Testament, but only part of the mistakes, and there are ...
          3. 0
            2 August 2014 20: 45
            I received your explanation of "tanitu", and was surprised, because I could assume the origin of the word from the Sanskrit "toneto" - eat or eat = ending of the clan in kinship with pagans. For an Old Testament Jew the worst sin if his descendants accept someone else's faith. And what about Yakutsk? "the worst enemy "
        3. +1
          3 August 2014 07: 54
          Quote: shasherin.pavel
          In World War II, Stalin did not send Russian soldiers to save France, so they got the kirdyk in two weeks
          In 1940, France and the USSR were not allies, so an analogy is not appropriate ... But in 1945, when our ALLIES were locked up in the Ardennes, Stalin PERSONALLY gave the order to launch the attack two weeks earlier, despite the fact that we they deprived themselves of aviation ... So DO NOT SPEAK NONSENSE.
      3. rodevaan
        +1
        2 August 2014 13: 23
        - In the First, the French at least, but resisted. And in the Second, when the whole color of the nation was laid back in the First, there was no one to resist. So they gave up almost immediately. And once surrendered - where did the loss come from?
      4. 11111mail.ru
        +1
        2 August 2014 16: 47
        Quote: tanit
        The most unfunny, in this First war the same French laid down more than in the Second.

        The funny thing is that in the Second World War the frogs did not fight, but skied around. De Gaulle, I ask you not to mention the Normandie-Niemen squadron, Hitler had more Frenchmen in the SS of the Wallonia division. This is what it means to get involved in a war without a Russian cover, as in 1914!
        1. +1
          2 August 2014 19: 24
          So I do not argue. There were more of them on the Borodino field in 1941 against Soviet soldiers than for the whole of France against the Germans.
        2. +1
          2 August 2014 20: 50
          Quote: 11111mail.ru
          Division "Wallonia"

          it was completely defeated on the Borodino field but not in 1812 but in 1941.
          1. 0
            3 August 2014 21: 17
            Tell the French of "1812" model that they will fight the Russians like a German division ...? I would not dare to tell them. wink
    2. rodevaan
      +2
      2 August 2014 13: 21
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Now in the west we have practically no allies.


      - Yes, they never were with us. And especially in the west.

      Quote: rotmistr60
      All this pack combined with one goal - to bring Russia to its knees.


      “They were always united for this only.”
  4. +4
    2 August 2014 06: 13
    All these people would know how this war would end for the Empire. 100 years have passed and we are again on the verge of war, people do not learn anything.
    1. 0
      2 August 2014 09: 19
      Quote: AlexGS
      All these people would know

      When I tried to examine the faces of people in photo No. 14, I suddenly saw that there were many skulls among the living people ... it was even terrible, people came to support the king in the war and did not even realize that they were already dead from this war. Take a look at the far rows in the center of the photo and see if you see the same thing: skulls among the living ..
    2. +2
      2 August 2014 09: 56
      Quote: AlexGS
      All these people would know how this war would end for the Empire. 100 years have passed and we are again on the verge of war, people do not learn anything.

      We are scientists, but not everything depends on us. They simply drag us into the war. When did Russia start the war first?! Precisely for the sake of its own ambitions or benefits?! I got up more than once to defend the Slavs (Bulgaria, Serbia, etc.) when we declared war on our own. (Isn't it a similar situation with Ukraine?!) And not when we betrayed the allies, what bastards they were not. But we were constantly. And the end of the empire was organized precisely by the allies, not the Bolsheviks and Lenin. With the help of the 5th column (here we need to take an example from Koba, he did not allow this and defeated the entire 5th column in advance) and it was time to GDP. It is a pity that this happened, but everything will be fine! Russia is not killed!
    3. rodevaan
      +1
      2 August 2014 13: 25
      Quote: AlexGS
      All these people would know how this war would end for the Empire. 100 years have passed and we are again on the verge of war, people do not learn anything.


      - And history has 2 unshakable axioms: it always repeats itself and does not teach anything :)) Unfortunately.
  5. +5
    2 August 2014 06: 25
    Glory to the fighters of this war. It was then they turned red or white.
    1. +3
      2 August 2014 07: 04
      By the way, who was Brusilov for? Could it be for the Reds?
      1. +5
        2 August 2014 09: 21
        Quote: tanit
        By the way, for whom was Brusilov

        Brusilov was at the headquarters of the Red Army, for which he was cursed by the "white" movement.
        1. 0
          2 August 2014 09: 41
          Brilliant ... and suddenly for the Reds? How so?
          1. +5
            2 August 2014 11: 14
            Quote: tanit
            Brilliant ... and suddenly for the Reds? How so?
            It’s just that smart people understood what the future was for. In the Russian army by 1917 there were 236 thousand officers, including missing, wounded and captured. In the Red Army, there were 48409 officers, 10339 military officials, 13449 doctors in military ranks, and 14000 as military experts from captured officers of the White Army. 160 Generals and 200 senior staff officers served in the General Staff of the Red Army. A total of 526 people served in the General Staff. 128 Admirals, 261 captains of the 1st rank, 388 captains of the 2nd rank served in the Red Fleet, 726 lieutenants, 901 midshipmen, 953 mechanical engineers.
            1. +2
              2 August 2014 11: 25
              The smart ones just realized what kind of idea the future holds.

              Rather, they were prompted by those who are counting several steps ahead, making the "conscious choice" -inevitable.
              defeat on the fronts-1 hint-they say the king does not know how to fight.
              terror, look what will happen, but not that ...
              Yes ... the propaganda of the Reds was to compare Hollywood to the hearts and souls of Russian people.
              Well, the main argument is intervention.
            2. -1
              2 August 2014 17: 55
              So you yourself said about smart people. Why are your comments mostly angry with Russia?
              1. +2
                3 August 2014 11: 35
                Quote: tanit
                So you yourself said about smart people. Why are your comments mostly angry with Russia?
                My comments are not angry with Russia, but with its leadership, which drove the country into a situation from which the exit can be very difficult. They never thought about people, they never calculated the situation much ahead, they were always guided by their momentary selfish interests.
          2. +4
            2 August 2014 11: 19
            Someone serves Russia, someone is the tsar-father and is not able to change their views. I want to say that of the genius generals, only Yudenich did not stay in Russia, but he was not beaten by genius either. Shaposhnikov, Brusilov, by the way the well-remembered image of Slashchev from "Run", returned to the USSR and taught at the military academy until he was killed by "a relative of one of those executed by Slashchev." If we talk about geniuses, then in Russia there was one brilliant designer of the rich, this is Sikorsky, who, unlike Tupolev, Arkhangelsky and other designers, worked only with drawings: he gave them to the manager with the order: Build! And then I saw the work in matter. Tupolev, Ilyushin - the Vologda peasant class, the Arkhangelsk nephew of Zhukovsky, all were for the Reds and remained in Russia. Who can say that they are not brilliant?
            1. 11111mail.ru
              0
              2 August 2014 17: 07
              Quote: shasherin.pavel
              one ingenious designer from the rich is Sikorsky

              ... who laid down his sister's dowry for the sake of building an aircraft of his own design. "Up" Igor Vasilyevich was pulled out by his talent, which was appreciated in time by Shidlovsky Mikhail Vladimirovich, chairman of the Council of the joint-stock company of the Russian-Baltic Carriage Works (RVBZ), whose main customer was the military department. In 1912 he created the aviation department of the plant in St. Petersburg. Already in August 1913, the RVBZ was working on the creation of a new four-engine, heavy aircraft "Ilya Muromets". The "red" IV Sikorsky only had a bullet, because his father I. A. Sikorsky In 1913 he acted as an expert and a witness for the prosecution in the Beilis case.
              1. +1
                2 August 2014 21: 00
                Quote: 11111mail.ru
                who, for the sake of building an airplane of his own design, laid the sister's dowry.

                According to Tupolev’s recollections, when he was a student, he brought Sikorsky’s glider drawing for consideration, and when they debated how it would look in kind, Sikorsky rang the bell and gave the drawing to the servant: Build tomorrow! And then he said to Tupolev: Come tomorrow, you will see. Sikorsky's father had his own factory. The revolution bankrupted Sikorsky. This is from Tupolev's memoirs.
                1. 11111mail.ru
                  -1
                  2 August 2014 23: 07
                  Quote: shasherin.pavel
                  Sikorsky's father had his own factory. The revolution bankrupted Sikorsky. This is from Tupolev's memoirs.

                  A phrase has sunk into my consciousness, I don’t remember the authorship, but the content: “lying like an eyewitness,” this is about Tupolev. Go to Monino, visit the aviation museum, now it's not a problem. There is PO Sukhoi's T-4 Sotka plane. Who landed him? Tupolev!
                  And about the "owner of the plant" - this is a cheating "distortion" on your part: The Sikorsky family was well known in Kiev, thanks, first of all, to the head of the family. Igor's father, Sikorsky Ivan Alekseevich, was an outstanding psychiatrist. http://www.igor-sikorsky.ru/biography/igor-sikorskijj.html
                  Sikorsky’s father participated in the ritual assassination of a 12-year-old preparatory student at the Kiev-Sofia Theological School Andrei Yushchinsky on March 12, 1911. Therefore, under the second Khazar Khaganate, the Sikorsky family would be completely destroyed.
      2. +10
        2 August 2014 09: 25
        Quote: tanit
        By the way, who was Brusilov for? Could it be for the Reds?

        "... Since 1920, in the Red Army. Since May 1920, he headed a Special Meeting under the Commander-in-Chief of All the Armed Forces of the Soviet Republic, which worked out recommendations for strengthening the Red Army. Since 1921, Aleksey Alekseevich is chairman of the commission for organizing pre-conscription cavalry training, since 1923 served at the Revolutionary Military Council for particularly important assignments In 1923-1924 - inspector of the cavalry.

        A. A. Brusilov died on March 17, 1926 in Moscow from pneumonia at the age of 72 years. He was buried with all military honors at the walls of the Smolensk Cathedral of the Novodevichy Convent. [3] The grave is located next to the grave of A. M. Zayonchkovsky. "

        A smart man was a general, like Count Ignatiev, and B.M. Shaposhnikov
        1. +1
          2 August 2014 09: 50
          It was. And eternal glory to him. Well. and memory is already returning to us.
    2. +2
      2 August 2014 08: 21
      New monuments to the "old" war.
  6. +6
    2 August 2014 06: 27
    Unfortunately, there are always people who joyfully yell - Hurray !!!! When declaring war, and as a rule they don’t go to war, sending others joyfully!
  7. +4
    2 August 2014 06: 39
    And the Orthodox Bulgarians hit the Orthodox Serbs in the back. Orthodox Faith, does it unite? Truth? Slavic brotherhood - does it look like this, am I not confusing anything?
    1. +3
      2 August 2014 08: 53
      Quote: tanit
      Orthodox Faith, does it unite? Truth? Slavic brotherhood - does it look like this, am I not confusing anything?

      Traitors are everywhere and always have been, and Vera has nothing to do with it. There are people who have turned away from her.
      1. +3
        2 August 2014 09: 03
        State level traitors? 300 thousand Bulgarian army in the back of the Serbs is how?
        Faith has nothing to do with it, I agree.
        1. 0
          2 August 2014 09: 39
          Quote: tanit
          300 thousand Bulgarian army in the back of the Serbs is how?

          So what? In Russia, you’ll calm down 300 who are ready to spit on both Serbs and Russia itself. For the bulk in Moscow, how many have voted hi
          1. 0
            2 August 2014 09: 59
            Introduce them to the Swamp. And now the question is, how many bulldozers are needed, what would they not be?
            1. +1
              2 August 2014 10: 35
              Quote: tanit
              Introduce them to the Swamp. And now the question is, how many bulldozers are needed, what would they not be?

              I do not like blood and I do not want to imagine.
              1. 0
                2 August 2014 17: 28
                And who said about the blood? I'm talking about peaceful bulldozers. wassat
    2. +2
      2 August 2014 09: 30
      There are Bulgarians and there are Orthodox Bulgarians, there are Serbs and there are Orthodox Serbs!
      There are Russians and there are Orthodox Russians - these are those who do not miss a single Orthodox holiday and receive communion and gather together. In 1913, there were about 12% of such people in Russia. Most of the believers that they are Orthodox visit churches at Easter, Christmas, and Epiphany, while the largest part comes to Epiphany after the service for water, but they also consider themselves Orthodox, although they cannot list two priests of the Russian Orthodox Apostle- Catholic Church. " So, in other countries, most of the belligerents do not know anything from the Bible or the Gospel.
      1. 0
        2 August 2014 10: 09
        The Bible ... The Gospel ... Cool. Has anyone read them in the original language? I dare to suggest that no.
        You know, it’s difficult to bring the word of Faith to our souls. Moreover, not knowing how this word sounds. Sincerely.
        1. 0
          2 August 2014 10: 36
          Quote: tanit
          You know, it’s hard to bring the word of Faith to our souls

          It’s not difficult if a person desires it. Every day he lives by faith.
        2. +1
          2 August 2014 11: 27
          Quote: tanit
          Has anyone read them in the original language?

          Open the Internet "Revelation of the Bible texts" and read the beginning at least. So only now, looking into space for 40 million light years, you can find similarities with the text of the Bible, when astronomers confirmed the words of the Bible that at first there was an abyss .. In short: the Bible describes the creation of the planet Earth 30 billion years before the planet The Earth became a satellite of the Sun star. Read on, maybe you will find something interesting for yourself.
        3. 11111mail.ru
          0
          2 August 2014 23: 12
          Quote: tanit
          Has anyone read them in the original language?

          It is necessary to study Hebrew and "Aramaic", but why? By the way, do you READ suras from the Koran from a book written in Arabic or do you remember it "by ear"?
    3. 0
      2 August 2014 10: 07
      Quote: tanit
      Orthodox Faith, does it unite?
      If this is a question about the "special flawedness" of the Orthodox faith, then you should give a side by side example of another, non-Orthodox faith, in which there are no such facts of manipulation of the authorities through the media by a mass of believers of different confessions (there are also not 100%, but the majority of Bulgarians are Orthodox, from there are weak believers - "someone is up there") and liberals (see about the latter in the Radoslavov government). Point to "roughly indicative faith" and immediately open a site like the "path of truth".
      1. 0
        2 August 2014 10: 27
        I do not claim any inferiority. Just when the guns say -Vera is silent and / or assenting. That's all. I have a son, daughter, grandson - Orthodox.
        1. 0
          2 August 2014 10: 37
          Quote: tanit
          Just when the guns say -Vera is silent

          As soon as without guns you get into the turbulence zone by plane, your atheism will turn into the most sincere Faith.
          1. 0
            2 August 2014 10: 44
            I don’t fly civilian airplanes. For it’s fraught.
            And so you are right ... The Sun shone both at night and in the afternoon. There are no atheists in the trenches.
    4. 11111mail.ru
      +2
      2 August 2014 17: 36
      Quote: tanit
      And the Orthodox Bulgarians hit the Orthodox Serbs in the back ...?

      Take a look at the history textbook. There was a so-called. the "second Balkan" war, in which Serbia seized part of the territory from Bulgaria, which it, together with Bulgaria, seized from Turkey in the "first Balkan war. The" accomplice "" grabbed "a part of the" khabar "from the accomplice, therefore, when another bandit began to" "former" friend, he stabbed him in the back. How are our Hollywood "educators"? "It's nothing personal, just business!"
      Quote: tanit
      ... Orthodox Faith, does it unite? Truth?...

      Oddly enough - it's true! The Orthodox faith united the shelves of the Russian lands when they imposed a duty on the Kulikovo field, from which Russian soldiers were already returning. True, the shepherd was then different. Last year, Russia celebrated the birthday of St. Sergius (Radonezh).
      Quote: tanit
      Slavic brotherhood - does it look like this, am I not confusing anything?

      As long as there is. No better than Shiites with Sunnis. Both have a Qur'an-holy book and wallpaper of one God glorify.
      1. 0
        2 August 2014 18: 17
        History textbook, looked in - there's nothing there. I already know about the Balkan Wars, I also know about the Farewell of a Slav.
        And the fact that the Bulgarians covered the Turks with themselves (the Bulgarian and the Turks are brothers forever laughing ) - nothing personal, this is business.)))
        Slavic brotherhood.
        By the way, if we are talking about brothers. Which country declared war on Japan? As a sign of solidarity with the Russian Empire? Let me tell you not Bulgaria (and not Serbia, alas). Montenegro.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          0
          2 August 2014 23: 26
          Quote: tanit
          A history book, I looked, there is nothing there.

          Read on the Internet if you do not speak Bulgarian. Taco is Slovenian.
          http://mmorpgbb.ru/foegwoeg/Вторая_Балканская_война
          The territory conquered by Bulgaria in the First Balkan War was divided between the victorious countries.
  8. +3
    2 August 2014 06: 48
    How many patriots with these photos are gone, how many are broken and destroyed destinies! Either people do not study history, or they believe that now they are smarter, they have the same Internet and America will help them! Brainlessness is the misfortune of mankind, since the means of destruction have intensified thousands of times!
    1. +3
      2 August 2014 07: 01
      And brainlessness became aggressive.
      1. pahom54
        +1
        2 August 2014 08: 44
        for tanit
        Brainlessness is almost always aggressive ...
        1. +1
          2 August 2014 08: 50
          But before, it was limited to the kitchen.
    2. +7
      2 August 2014 07: 08
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Either people do not study history, or they believe that now they are smarter

      Study, study! For example, "our president" spoke ...
      Petro Poroshenko. 100 years since the beginning of World War I in the light of the anti-terrorist operation in the Donbass
      «
      Today marks 100 years since the beginning of the global military conflict of the 20th century - the First World War, which claimed millions of human lives. Almost the entire territory of Ukraine is divided between the warring empires, has become a theater of war. Forced to fight in the regular armies of states on opposite sides of the front, Ukrainians have their own mournful account of the enormous losses in that tragedy, ”


      Probably compared himself to the emperor .... what else did that war have in common with ATO? Maybe the number of victims?

      “An important lesson that should be learned from the bloody events of the beginning of the last century is that only an independent, conciliar and strong state is a guarantee of fratricidal confrontation in other people's wars,”


      Well yes! Why do we need other people's wars! We can organize a fratricidal war in our country !!!
      1. +3
        2 August 2014 07: 15
        Fidget, and you are magnificent as always. hi
      2. +1
        2 August 2014 09: 57
        Quote: Egoza
        Ukrainians have their own mournful account of huge losses in that tragedy "

        I don’t know what you read or listen to, but I read "In That Tragedy". Not "in this", but "in that tragedy of 1914 = 18". and thus emphasized the kinship of what was happening then and today. Only you didn’t see that difference, because you don’t know that not all Ukrainians fought on the Russian side in 1914-18. Even then, there was a split.
        Quote: Egoza
        pledge of fratricidal confrontation in other people's wars, "

        If I missed the words "in other people's wars", then do not distort ... I also do not like everything done by President Putin, but I don’t like what Poroshenko did, but I don’t allow myself to distort. The fratricidal First World War that took place, when the eastern countries split into two warring camps, and why did Russia get into this war? To protect the fraternal people of Serbia? The people who organized the mass genocide of the Croats before the First World War. Few people in Russia want to remember the mass graves on Croatian soil, which considered Serbs to be neighbors and brothers. Serbs are our brothers! they couldn't do that! But it was precisely this memory of the genocide of the Croatian people that led to the confrontation in World War II and to the fighting in the 21st century. And we for these Serbs put ourselves on the sacrificial altar of the First War! Now, in a hundred years, they are trying to draw us into military operations for Novorossiya. Don't you remember how the Russian people fled from fraternal countries during perestroika? We have a family in our city who fled from Kazakhstan when their daughter, a warrant officer, was burned alive in the city park, after having been tied with barbed wire. So the militia of the "brotherly people" did not even open a criminal case.
        1. 0
          2 August 2014 16: 12
          Quote: shasherin.pavel
          Only you didn’t see that difference, because you don’t know that not all Ukrainians fought on the Russian side in the 1914 -18 year. Even then there was a split.

          Firstly, I did not give you permission to contact me on "you".
          Secondly, where did you see the split among the Ukrainians? There were no "Ukrainians" at that time. There was a handful of Galitsay renegades who wanted to flatter the pan and betrayed their faith for promising to equate them in status with the Polish peasants. In Russia, there were Little Russians! And they had no split!
          And Pan Poroshenko stresses in every possible way that this was a war of Russia, but not of Ukraine. And this is the "similarity" of the current situation. You need to live here, in Ukraine, in order to see and understand where your speeches this year are leading (do not think that the gentleman).
          1. 0
            2 August 2014 21: 17
            Quote: Egoza
            I didn’t give you permission to call me “you”.

            And I only refer to the enemies as "you", because even to God people turn to "you". Only now the word Ukraine was first applied to these places by Austria-Hungary, and then Poland. Or "you" think that Ukraine was not in the First World War, but in the Civil War? For your information, in 18, the Donetsk People's Republic was self-proclaimed, which, in conspiracy with Kiev, was captured by the Germans and annexed to Ukraine. After the Civil War during the struggle against the Cossacks, the Donetsk People's Republic was abolished. Or have you forgotten such a word as "haidamaks"? "Dear". I will not put a minus, but it would not hurt to read the history.
  9. +6
    2 August 2014 07: 17
    “The First World War, the October revolution in Russia caused by it, the struggle against the Bolshevik invasion were not easy tests for the strength of Ukrainians. "They did not break our desire for freedom and the restoration of statehood, the famines and the repression of the communist regime."


    About the repression of the communist regime .... you see it haunted that daddy Waltzman was sitting for theft! Now Petya will get even with the Communists! However, for some reason, he is in no hurry to move his office from the chic "Stalin" built by the communists in 1936-1939!

    “Now we are again forced by arms to defend independence from external attacks, to break the imperial plans of another country. I am convinced that the Ukrainians, with their inherent freedom and patriotism, will be able to defend their state, restore and protect its territorial integrity ”

    Let the sons of the deputies and the president himself show their patriotic feelings! However, do not rush!

    “We strive to further develop our country - an equal member of a large European family, which, having passed through the flames of war and other burdens, has chosen the path of unity, peace, democracy and progress. It is our duty to future generations, to the memory of fallen compatriots. ”


    Will be! There will be unity, peace, and progress, dear sir President! Only without you and your junta! Answer for everything! As well as the tsarist government! Autumn is coming ... and the "October coup" too.
    1. +5
      2 August 2014 09: 14
      Quote: Egoza
      About the repression of the communist regime .... you see it haunted that daddy Waltzman was sitting for theft! Now Petya will get even with the Communists! However, for some reason, he is in no hurry to move his office from the chic "Stalin" built by the communists in 1936-1939!

      Yes, if you give everything that the Communists built or did under the Communists, then Poroshenko will have one Zaporizhzhya Sich (I’ll exaggerate a little). After all, most of the regions were annexed to Ukraine, with the so hated Poroshenko communists. Yes ..., Mr. Poroshenko is not consistent!
    2. +1
      2 August 2014 10: 13
      Quote: Egoza
      defend independence from external attacks,

      And here Potroshenko let slip that Novorossia is external to him ... "aggression"?
      Quote: Egoza
      an equal member of a large European family,

      And the ex-president of Ukraine in Minsk said: The question is whether or not to be Ukraine ..
  10. waisson
    +9
    2 August 2014 07: 19
    -------------- hi
    1. +3
      2 August 2014 07: 41
      It's strange to hear this from a "sold Russia", isn't it? wink
      1. +2
        2 August 2014 12: 36
        Quote: tanit
        It's strange to hear this from a "sold Russia", isn't it?
        Actors on the stage also play roles. And Mikhail Ulyanov, as if he were not good in the role of Zhukov, is not Zhukov. Cases are primary, words are secondary.
        1. +2
          2 August 2014 18: 26
          Ulyanov is an actor from God. If he had come, Mikhail Ulyanov, to the position of a dying division, would the division have surrendered? It seems to me that no, I would believe in the actor’s game.
          Ulyanov, a very good actor. And not the worst person in this world. Like Marshal Zhukov. hi
        2. 0
          2 August 2014 21: 19
          Quote: baltika-18
          Mikhail Ulyanov, as it were, was not good in the role of Zhukov, Zhukov

          is not? Ha ha ha Ulyanov is his pseudonym, and his real name is Zhukov!
    2. -1
      2 August 2014 10: 01
      And what does conciliation and the desire to pacify the aggressor lead to?
      1. 0
        2 August 2014 10: 46
        By the year 1945. Pick the date yourself.
      2. +1
        2 August 2014 11: 34
        Quote: Nina Cerny
        desire to pacify the aggressor?

        The desire not to pacify led to the First World War, which escalated into the Second World War, let's start "blessing" the Third? or we will wait, because now in hand is not a Mosin rifle, but a Bulava with a vigorous charge.
  11. +3
    2 August 2014 07: 22
    To know in advance what would happen, how many mistakes could be avoided, how many people could be saved, but this knowledge was not given to mankind, it is forced to learn from the mistakes of the past so as not to make them in the future. But mankind does not know how to learn from its mistakes, step by step on the same rake, why is this happening and who needs it, so that people destroy each other? No one knows the answer to this question and is unlikely to know when.
  12. +6
    2 August 2014 07: 49
    It would seem: World War I ... Eternity separates us from it ... But, nevertheless, there is something that directly binds us to it. This is Memory. My grandfather Tikhomirov, Ivan Zakharovich, a participant in World War 1, an artilleryman. Full St. George Knight. I found him alive. Remained after him and awards. But, unfortunately, not with me ...
    1. +3
      2 August 2014 08: 12
      Full St. George? I am not surprised at your life position.
      And it’s right that you do not have his awards.
      This is a memory. This is not a hangers on mummers. Sincerely.
      1. +2
        2 August 2014 11: 41
        I must apologize: Full St. George Bow is 4 soldiers' medals, and four officer's crosses. But there was a "Full Officer Georgievsky Cavalier". You can open "photos of St. George's Cavaliers" and there are only three "Full Cavaliers of St. George's Bow" and among them Budyonny, by the way there is a photo of Budyonny with Kozhedub where Budyonny is with 4 GSS.
    2. 0
      2 August 2014 10: 18
      Full St. George's bow: these are four St. George's medals, after which the cavalier is awarded the officer rank of "non-commissioned officer" and three officer crosses. Such on account as four times GSS.
      1. +1
        2 August 2014 13: 03
        Quote: shasherin.pavel
        Full St. George's bow: these are four St. George Soldier's medals, after which the cavalier is awarded the officer rank of "non-commissioned officer"

        It is his case. He ended the war as a non-commissioned officer. Well, at least both father and uncle told me so. At the front he joined the Bolshevik party and the party in 18g. sent him to the Urals ...
        His medals were preserved in the family and I saw them, but a very long time ago. After the death of his grandfather, they went to his eldest son (my uncle), and after his death to my cousin, more precisely, even to his beloved nephew. We hardly support relations with them. The father of his brother did not like and the uncle answered us in return ... Photo of his grandfather 19g. somewhere there ... In leather, Chekist.
        For a long time I want to know in more detail from the archives and the wife of a historian-archivist, but I’m pulling something ...
        1. 0
          2 August 2014 21: 31
          So open the site "St. George's Cavaliers" but I found Ivan Tikhomirov there, but he was killed by V.O.V. When I was twelve years old, when my grandmother Garmonova Lydia Vasilievna nee Malinovskaya (noble Polish family) died, I grabbed the photograph of my grandfather Pavel Mikhailovich mobilized for the First World War and the photo where my grandmother Lydia Vasilievna was 13 years old with her parents and took them with him all my life ... I saved it. When I posted it in contact, all the sisters praised that, unlike them, they kept it.
      2. rodevaan
        0
        2 August 2014 18: 26
        - Just a minute. Don't be confused! What other officer crosses? Full St. George Cavalier is 4 ZOVO and 4 medals. ZOVO (Insignia of a military order) or a cross is a soldier's award, officers were not given it. They could have been awarded only in urgent cases, if the officer on the battlefield performed a feat corresponding to the statute of the "St. George's" cross, and then if this feat was recognized by all rank and file ranks of the unit in the ranks. There were very few such cases.
        St. George's Cross is a common name.

        The officer was entitled to the military order "St. George" for very outstanding military services. This order was awarded very rarely and not even to everyone who really deserved it. One can often read how the officers of the tsarist army complained that after a brilliantly carried out operation, George was never given to them. The order was approved by a special board, and the Emperor himself made the final decision.

        Usually, the full St. George cavalier was called the one who had all 4 CALLs - there were also few of them.
        Are you sure that Tikhomirov Ivan Zakharovich had all 4 CALLS?
        1. 0
          2 August 2014 21: 43
          Quote: rodevaan
          What other officer crosses

          A private was awarded medals, some, after two medals, were awarded the rank of non-commissioned officer, and this is already a junior officer corps, therefore an officer. They were not awarded to staff and senior officers who did not participate in military clashes. It's like with confusion: Suvorov and cadets, the fact is that the cadets are from "state children" that is, orphans who graduated with the ranks of non-commissioned officers because of their simple origin. And "junkers" were issued by officers. Just do not confuse them with the party of the "Cadets" - the agrarian party of the constitutional democratic movement. 4 medals and 4 crosses were called "full St. George's bow"
  13. +6
    2 August 2014 08: 07
    The First World War gives Russia a lesson: you need to fight for your own interests, and not for the interests of French financiers and British industrialists. Dozens of times during the war, Russian troops attacked, being unprepared, only for the sake of saving the allies. And when there was a need for an offensive on the Western Front, the answer was one - there is no possibility.
    For the sake of saving the remnants of the Serbian forces and the Russian expeditionary force in Serbia, the emperor was forced to even set an ultimatum for the allies: either they send the long-promised ships to evacuate our and Serbian forces to Corfu, or he concludes a separate peace with Germany and Austria-Hungary. They sent ships, but remembering this ultimatum, as well as familiarizing themselves with the plans of the Russian command about the landing in the summer of 1917 to Constantinople in order to capture the straits, they preferred to organize the February revolution and remove the emperor from power.
    Here it really is: Russia has no allies ...
    1. +2
      2 August 2014 08: 20
      So not for the sake of France or England the war was launched. For the Serbs. And, at that time, right.
      1. +2
        2 August 2014 08: 27
        Quote: tanit
        So not for the sake of France or England the war was launched. For the Serbs.

        The problem is that we were all told at school at the time that World War I was Imperialist, but the Revolution was for the interests of Russia. All this nonsense got into my head, so still some people don’t take any arguments and are ready for their own ideals ** To tear Lenin.
        Zombie!
        1. +2
          2 August 2014 08: 35
          And rightly so. Imperialist. But for the Serbs. And if .... (oh, that's if) ... It would fit into the era of "Balkan wars". But it turned out what happened. There are definitely fewer illiterates.
          1. +3
            2 August 2014 08: 58
            Quote: tanit
            And rightly so. Imperialist. But for the Serbs. And if .... (oh, that's if) ... It would fit into the era of "Balkan wars". But it turned out what happened. There are definitely fewer illiterates.

            Yes, really, but right now some are yelling at the site that we passed the Serbs in 90. What then would the Tsar do? Although here, much later, 100 is much more visible and much smarter than the Emperor, even though they finished 8 classes and work as loaders. Such unrecognized geniuses like Volkhov. Now everyone says that Novorossi needs help, as they said about Serbs then. Nobody thought then and he didn’t suspect how this warrior would end for Russia. And now they say on the site that there will be no big warriors if we get in a straight line. The history of fools does not teach anything.
            1. +1
              2 August 2014 09: 28
              This does not surprise me. Rather, it is surprising that the Serbian fascists came to fight against the Ukrainian fascists. Something is wrong with the Nazis ...
              1. +1
                2 August 2014 11: 53
                Quote: tanit
                Something is wrong with the Nazis ...

                In 1928, the "Political Dictionary" of the Priboy publishing house lists the fascists of Romania, English, British Empire, Belgium, Felkische fascists of Germany (not the National Socialist-Deutschland (German) Workers' Party (NSDLP) of Germany), Holland, Denmark, Danzig , Italy, Poland, and in many countries they were national governments. And they all had different programs. By the way: English f. and the British Empire are different parties.
            2. +1
              2 August 2014 09: 29
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Yes, I do not want to

              In fact, there was a war of empires - the British, Ottoman, German, Austro-Hungarian, Russian and French republics for the interests of empires, and the war was correctly called imperialistic
              1. -1
                2 August 2014 10: 34
                Quote: saag

                In fact, there was a war of empires - British, Ottoman, German, Austro-Hungarian,

                They were no longer empires!
                1. +3
                  2 August 2014 10: 54
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  They were no longer empires!

                  What do you mean were not, when the war began were quite empires and everyone wanted something - the Ottoman Empire, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Dagestan (present), Austria-Hungary - Serbia and Bukovina, Germany - France, Belgium, Poland, Ukraine (grain, iron ore, coal), France - Alsace and Lorraine, Russia - straits, everything needed a living space, England only wanted Russia and Germany to mutually weaken in the war and then she would tidy her up, though America was also connected to the division
                  1. -1
                    2 August 2014 11: 13
                    Quote: saag
                    What do you mean were not, when the war began, they were quite empires

                    Okay, all the best. The meaning of the concept of Empire is *****. Any dwarf can think of himself as a giant, but to hell with it.
                    1. +1
                      2 August 2014 14: 42
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Quote: saag
                      What do you mean were not, when the war began, they were quite empires

                      Okay, all the best. The meaning of the concept of Empire is *****. Any dwarf can think of himself as a giant, but to hell with it.

                      In fact, the empire is not determined by the area, once again, if Che.
                      1. 0
                        2 August 2014 21: 48
                        Quote: Wheel
                        empire is not determined by area

                        I completely agree: empire is the highest form of capitalism. But God beat me if I can clarify this phrase from a history textbook.
                2. +1
                  2 August 2014 14: 38
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: saag

                  In fact, there was a war of empires - British, Ottoman, German, Austro-Hungarian,

                  They were no longer empires!

                  Yah?
                  They ceased to be empires exactly according to the results of the war (except the British), if Che.
        2. +4
          2 August 2014 09: 06
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Zombie!

          You are right.
          The First World War was for the interests of Russia, and the Revolution was imperialist.
          Upside down, black is white? Are you for a fucking tear?
          1. -5
            2 August 2014 09: 12
            Quote: There was a mammoth
            Are you for a fucking tear?

            For a mummy, which has not been in the Mausoleum for a long time already. Somewhere it is stored in the warehouse, if not at all in a quiet place.
            1. +3
              2 August 2014 09: 24
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              For the mummy ...

              Rudeness is, of course, your business card. Looks like the education of the "white" bone climbs.
              It is enough to recall the successes of our Motherland between the two world wars and the “successes” of imperialist Russia after 1991 to see the difference between “bloody” and “mummy”.
              1. 0
                2 August 2014 09: 42
                Quote: There was a mammoth
                Looks like the education of the "white" bone climbs.

                Yes, I separate betrayal from patriotism.
                Quote: There was a mammoth
                It is enough to recall the successes of our country between the two world wars.

                Yes, right down to Moscow, rolled back after success.
                Quote: There was a mammoth
                and the "successes" of imperialist Russia after 1991 to see the difference between "bloody" and "mummy".

                Well, to the Leninists, even in the eyes of *** everything is wrong.
                1. +2
                  2 August 2014 09: 52
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yes, I separate betrayal from patriotism.

                  I, as I understand it, refer yourself to the second? Oh well!
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Well, Leninists, even in the eyes ***

                  Argument! "White" bone. The breed is immediately felt! (parallelly, did you study at school?)
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov

                  Yes, right down to Moscow, rolled back after success.

                  It is terrible to think what would happen if the king would sit on the throne.
                  1. 0
                    2 August 2014 10: 32
                    Quote: There was a mammoth
                    ! (Parallel, did you study at school?)

                    Yes, in the 80s and I heard a lot about the Imperialists, the Communists led by Gorbaty betrayed the current.
                    Quote: There was a mammoth
                    It is terrible to think what would happen if the king would sit on the throne.

                    Now there are diapers for adults, the address where to buy to give?
                    1. +2
                      2 August 2014 13: 09
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Now there are diapers for adults, the address where to buy to give?

                      "White bone, blue blood" - do you often use it unnecessarily? Perhaps the granddaughter. Was an aristocrat brought up in the kitchen? Have you picked up rudeness there?

                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Yes, in the 80s and I heard a lot about the Imperialists, the Communists led by Gorbaty betrayed the current.

                      In Ukraine now Bandera also "love" the communists. A good company for you, you are our "patriot". We had a political officer - the nickname was "Lace". Didn't your ancestors cut out the stars for the communists and rip off their skin? The upbringing of patriotic nobles allowed this. My father was a communist, I am proud of him, but Gorbachev agrees here, a traitor, as, indeed, his "heirs".
                      PS Weakly answer questions, only learned to be rude in your life?
                      P.S.1
                      Quote: retired
                      Quote: shasherin.pavel
                      Full St. George's bow: these are four St. George Soldier's medals, after which the cavalier is awarded the officer rank of "non-commissioned officer"
                      It is his case. He ended the war as a non-commissioned officer. Well, at least both father and uncle told me so. At the front he joined the Bolshevik party and the party in 18g. sent him to the Urals ...

                      Is Romanov a traitor for you too? And for me, a patriot and a hero.
              2. 0
                2 August 2014 10: 45
                And you know, no less rudeness, a mockery of common sense and all norms of attitude to the body of the deceased - this is to regularly rinse the remains of Lenin in the bathtub with brine ...
                My position is similar to church patriarchs. Since we take into account (with an exaggeration) that Vladimir Ulyanov was Russian and baptized, and he did not renounce it anywhere, then BURN him worthily.
                Somewhere in the homeland, next to the graves of their ancestors.
                What's so bad about that?
                1. rodevaan
                  0
                  2 August 2014 19: 45
                  - Turley is already, frayed how many times. Everyone has their own opinion. Since the society was divided approximately equally, they did not begin to touch the body of Lenin. And they did it right. Let yourself lie. He does not bother anyone in the Mausoleum.
                  This is our story.
            2. +1
              2 August 2014 15: 10
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Are you for a fucking tear?

              For a mummy, which has not been in the Mausoleum for a long time already. Somewhere it is stored in the warehouse, if not at all in a quiet place.

              Alexander, beer consumption negatively affects your ability to lead a discussion, as well as some other abilities.
              It is advisable to think on a sober head.
              As for some it’s not regrettable, but Lenin still remains a symbol of Russia. It is at the monuments of Lenin, and not at Orthodox churches, that pro-Russian rallies and rallies are held in support of Russia in the post-Soviet space.
              It is the monuments of Lenin that cause trembling and hatred among modern fascist banderlogs.
              So removing his body from the Mausoleum would be a big political mistake.
              Unlike you, our rulers understand this well.
              1. rodevaan
                0
                2 August 2014 20: 28
                Quote: Wheel

                It is advisable to think on a sober head.
                As for some it’s not regrettable, but Lenin still remains a symbol of Russia. It is at the monuments of Lenin, and not at Orthodox churches, that pro-Russian rallies and rallies are held in support of Russia in the post-Soviet space.
                It is the monuments of Lenin that cause trembling and hatred among modern fascist banderlogs.
                So removing his body from the Mausoleum would be a big political mistake.
                Unlike you, our rulers understand this well.


                - Absolutely.
      2. +2
        2 August 2014 09: 00
        Serbia was just an excuse. The reason was the insoluble contradictions between Germany on the one hand - and France with England - on the other. Germany competed with French financial capital, and also demanded colonies for itself, as a country that did not have time to colonize the world. Austria-Hungary fought for expanding influence in the Balkans, but also wanted the colonies.
        Russia did not have fundamental interests in this war, but there were several motivating reasons: an alliance with France, based on financial assistance from Russia - France gave a large number of loans to Russia; the desire to protect the Serbs, as well as the eternal dream of the Russian state - the Black Sea straits. In principle, if it were not for the arrogant attitude of the top of the Austrian Habsburgs towards the Serbs, and if it were not for the straightforward chivalrous attitude of Nicholas to the alliance concluded with France (he gave the floor - keep it up!), It is not at all clear which side Russia would be fighting on. Indeed, the continental alliance with Germany was much more in the interests of Russia than with France and England, which adjoined it. And then there would be a completely different story.
        1. -1
          2 August 2014 09: 14
          Quote: andj61
          The reason was the insoluble contradictions between Germany on the one hand - and France and England - on the other

          Oh, come on, they fought with each other for centuries, between short intervals of the world. The only time they figured out more with themselves, and here was the first concrete run over to Orthodoxy. However, as now.
          1. 0
            2 August 2014 10: 52
            They gnawed permanently, that's for sure ...
            Ever since the time when the Latin Romans "came in large numbers to bring a little bit of Roman democracy" to foggy Albion.
            And later, when the schismatic movements in Catholicism began ...
            But the bickering was with varying success, Russia on the sidelines was engaged in a showdown with tartar barbecues and no one was interested.
            But when the "Aryans" really had a trench to cut the Anglo-Saxons, then they pulled up the Russians.
            Of course, Murikos also pulled themselves up, but to the "shaposhnoy analysis", to the carve-up ...
          2. +1
            2 August 2014 14: 15
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Oh, come on, they fought with each other for centuries, between short intervals of the world. The only time they figured out more with themselves, and here was the first concrete run over to Orthodoxy. However, as now.

            Here I can’t agree! The German Empire - the second Reich - was formed only in 1871, after the victory of Prussia in the Franco-Prussian war. After this, German industry began to develop rapidly. But Germany had no markets and sources of raw materials. We quickly managed to capture Namibia, East Africa (the region of Kenya), Cameroon, New Guinea, and a few more small islands in Oceania. But Germany considered itself clearly deprived! And she was ready to fight for the colonies, especially since both the booming industry and the large population allowed this. This is the main insoluble contradiction. Germany tried to take Russia as an ally, but France took this place, giving Russia loans in such quantity and on conditions that Germany could no longer offer.
            The war for the colonies between Germany and France was a foregone conclusion, since Germany (or rather, part of it - Prussia) had already defeated France, but then the problem with the colonies could not be resolved, and Prussia had a more urgent task on the agenda - the creation of the German Empire.
            And at the beginning of the twentieth century, this question of colonies arose extremely sharply. England sided with the alliance with France and Russia all of a sudden, and quite unexpectedly, for Russia. After the conclusion of the union of England and France, at first even the question arose about the possibility of the existence of a union of Russia and France. But all misunderstandings quickly settled.
            As for the collision with Orthodoxy and the protection of the Serbs. If it was only a hitting thing, then Russia would have had to intervene a little earlier - during the Balkan wars, when at first the Orthodox Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro fought against the Ottoman Empire, and then all of them plus Romania fought against Bulgaria.
            It was precisely because of this second Balkan war (many believe that it was provoked by Austria-Hungary) during the First World War, Orthodox Bulgaria fought against the Orthodox Serbia, and Russia, of course. So it was not religion then that was in the first place, however, as now.
            And about the wars: Russia had wars with France - during the time of Napoleon, the Crimean War. By the way, the Crimean War could also be called World War - the powers participated in it, which then occupied up to one third of the Earth’s territory. There were no wars with Germany, only with Prussia, but still in the 18th century.
            If Russia spoke exclusively for the interests of Serbia, then there would simply be no war. William offered Nicholas a guarantee of the security of the Serbs and of all Orthodox in the Balkans in exchange for the termination of the alliance with France. Economic assistance and cooperation with Germany were in the background. Nikolai, being, oddly enough as it sounds today, a man of his word, did not go to break the alliance with France. And then what happened happened.
          3. 0
            2 August 2014 15: 13
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            However, as now.

            Yes, parallel to them was Orthodoxy, then, now.
            Do not put the horse in front of the engine.
            To dismember Russia and use its wealth, and Christ, Allah or Buddha - it makes no difference.
            The Nazis even tried to use Orthodoxy for their own purposes, sometimes not unsuccessfully.
  14. +1
    2 August 2014 08: 16
    Demonstrators, monarchists, and hello, tsar, you can simply - tsar. Who is the author, who missed the monarchy, who posted this photo gallery on the site? Why are you ashamed? Maybe the results of this bloody massacre, into which our people were drawn by the tsarist government? Today our leaders, and Kirill, who is in close conspiracy with them, are trying to present this crime as a fight for faith. But there is no more accurate assessment given by Lenin to this war as imperialist, aggressive and not just ... Therefore, you will not be able, "gentlemen", to fool your people again. And don't try to open monuments to the heroes of imperialist wars.
    1. +4
      2 August 2014 08: 28
      Photos. Just photos. And thanks to the author. And without any "fooling heads".
      1. +2
        2 August 2014 08: 34
        Quote: tanit
        ... And without any "fooling heads".

        I wrote above about this ...
        Quote: piston
        But there is no more accurate assessment of this war as imperialistic by V.I. Lenin,

        As for the piston itself, it’s for Lenin by the very tomatoes. I suspect a relative.
        1. +3
          2 August 2014 08: 43
          Vladimir Ilyich is often right. 100 years later. And how will he be right in 5000 years ?! Predkazkamamus - resting. laughing
          1. 0
            2 August 2014 09: 01
            Quote: tanit
            And how will he be right in 5000 years?

            Already after 50 years no one will remember him. I talked with schoolchildren in the doorway about who Lenin is, they don’t know a niche about him, and their children will not even suspect him hi
            1. 0
              2 August 2014 09: 14
              Well, my grandson and I personally are not going to die. I tried to die with dignity, it did not work then with death. And I’ll tell him about Ilyich.
              Well, from the point of view of his great-great-grandfathers (my grandfathers) That is, only positive.
              Not properly? Yes.
              I myself believe in what I tell? No.
              1. +1
                2 August 2014 09: 43
                Quote: tanit
                . And I’ll tell him about Ilyich.

                I'm afraid he will have completely different interests and leaders.
                1. 0
                  2 August 2014 10: 34
                  He has a grandfather.Ya. ))) And about the fact that proto-Ukrainians dug up the Black Sea manually - I won’t tell him)))
            2. +5
              2 August 2014 12: 00
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              nobody will remember about him.

              And who is Caesar? do you remember? At least three Caesars will your students call? But smart people remember them, and Lenin, like Stalin and the ever growing three of history, can no longer be thrown out.
              1. 0
                2 August 2014 19: 12
                Sami and answered. Caesars, many, and not to mention. Lenin, Stalin, there were no more.
        2. +3
          2 August 2014 14: 20
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          As for the piston itself, it’s for Lenin by the very tomatoes. I suspect a relative.


          Something you, Alexander, do not breathe evenly to Lenin! Constantly try to prick him - or those who refer to him even in the least degree.
          You, by the hour, not a relative of the last reigning family? Your surname is appropriate, and there is clearly no reason to not love Lenin!
    2. +1
      2 August 2014 09: 44
      Quote: piston
      Therefore, you, "gentlemen", will not be able to fool the heads of your people again. And don't try to open monuments to the heroes of imperialist wars.

      I really hope that you can’t fool your head. But it is necessary to open the monuments so that everyone remembers the honor, valor and courage of RUSSIAN SOLDIERS !!!
      1. +2
        2 August 2014 15: 25
        Quote: Egoza
        I really hope that you can’t fool your head. But it is necessary to open the monuments so that everyone remembers the honor, valor and courage of RUSSIAN SOLDIERS !!!

        If the monument "Honor, valor and courage of RUSSIAN SOLDIERS !!!", then why is the priest depicted on this monument?
        1. +1
          2 August 2014 21: 56
          Quote: piston
          then why is this monument depicted pop?

          Because "For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland."
      2. 0
        2 August 2014 21: 55
        Quote: Egoza
        And do not try, revealing monuments to the heroes of imperialist wars.

        A monument to the Hungarians near Voronezh is possible, but not Russian people.
  15. +1
    2 August 2014 08: 26
    Hard date! God forbid repetition! I think, nevertheless, prudence will take up! Or just the destruction of civilization!
  16. +3
    2 August 2014 08: 29
    The lesson of Russia is so painful and scary. You can’t fight for the interests of others. We must fight for our own. And to fight in such a way that, even after 100 years, the great-grandfathers of the opponents told their grandchildren - do not bully these Russians. If you do not want to hear the clang of tracks in the central square.
  17. +2
    2 August 2014 08: 47
    And at that time -
    The son of the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Valery Geletey received a summons from the military enlistment office. The head of the defense department personally told the journalists about it. "Today my son received a summons. He is not in Kiev, but he postpones all business and immediately goes to the military registration and enlistment office," the minister said.
    Earlier, a subpoena was allegedly received by the 21-year-old son of the Speaker of the Verkhovna Rada Alexander Turchinov. It is not known whether children of high-ranking officials will actually serve at the front. However, the local population knows firsthand how the decree of President Petro Poroshenko of July 22 on partial mobilization is being implemented.

    Of course, they will "serve" - ​​on the "floor" of the Ministry of Defense of dill!
  18. +2
    2 August 2014 08: 48
    For its interests in that war, Russia did not fight, and those that the allies proposed later, it was the kalach that Russia was beckoning to continue the war, and it is unlikely that Russia would get this kalach .. On August 2, 1914 the beginning of the end of the Russian Empire ....
  19. 0
    2 August 2014 08: 48
    Strange some feelings cause old photos. It seems to overlap with reality.
    Again the king, again a small crowd of jubilant in the capital (approvingly, this is our everything). As if the collective mind of the people is turned off. Again propaganda in the right direction and with the right messages.
    Everything in history repeats itself at a new stage. And in the current conditions, I don’t want rash decisions to be made.
    While we have not stumbled yet and it pleases.
  20. +5
    2 August 2014 08: 48
    We discard who is right, who is wrong.
    Let us honor the memory of the people of Russia innocently killed in that terrible war. In the most difficult conditions of HUNGER, COLD, HORROR OF POWDER, DISABILITY, people fought with the enemy, committed heroic deeds, perished.
    Eternal memory to them, and the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN!
    1. +2
      2 August 2014 08: 55
      The kingdom of heaven.
      And I don’t want to argue about everything else.
  21. +1
    2 August 2014 09: 04
    from the Don.
    Thank you to the author for the photo! It reminds you once again that the people of Russia are patriotic and for justice. BUT! There are NO Slav brothers. Bulgarians, Serbs, Czechs .... Where are they? On whose side? Russia has not, will not and will not have allies except the army and navy!
    Honor and glory to the RUSSIAN MILITARY !!!
    1. +2
      2 August 2014 09: 18
      A little infographic.
    2. 0
      2 August 2014 10: 13
      Thanks to the author for the photo.
      But about everything else, are you sure?
  22. 3vs
    +2
    2 August 2014 09: 19
    Glory to Russia!
    The kingdom of heaven to all those who died in the 1st and 2nd world wars.
    And we, the living, do not forget the lessons of the past.
    1. +2
      2 August 2014 09: 21
      More infographics.
      1. +4
        2 August 2014 09: 23
        Very interesting.
        1. 0
          2 August 2014 09: 44
          Quote: Apollon
          Very interesting.

          Apollonische hello! How is it then? Or not to remember laughing
      2. +1
        7 August 2014 16: 11
        If in addition to this data you find
        data on the release in Germany of shells, cartridges, gunpowder, explosives,
        you will probably be amazed. Germany created itself at the beginning of the 20th century
        the strongest chemical industry.
        Until almost their loss, they completely supplied themselves with everything
        necessary ammunition. German machine gunners and gunners could not save.

        They were knocked out of the war by the irreversible loss of personnel. Although, perhaps, the 1st World War is a unique case that a country capitulated when its army
        was on all fronts in the occupied territory!
  23. 0
    2 August 2014 10: 16
    I probably didn’t notice. But - where's the video about the Osovec fortress? Who has it, lay out.
  24. 0
    2 August 2014 10: 24
    How much patriotism, enthusiasm in the photo .... Incomplete three years and ... Where did everything go? And after all, the defeats at the front were not the same as in 41 and the famine, as in Leningrad, too, was not ...
    That's what it means in time for all internal enemies of lime)))
    1. 0
      2 August 2014 10: 39
      Didn't pay attention to the number of "military" type in St. Petersburg then? What tips were there? Soldiers' deputies - they sounded.
  25. His
    +4
    2 August 2014 10: 35
    You look at the photos and think: if it were people who knew what would happen next. The history of Russia did not know such millstones.
    I would like to give the answer of academician Fursov:
    Question: What lessons should the Russian leadership have to learn from the First World War? Andrey Fursov: The lesson is very simple, or rather three lessons. Firstly, try not to participate in other people's games - you cannot win in them, in a foreign game a stranger always wins. Secondly, if you are participating in someone else's game, you need to beat first and so that the enemy no longer rises. Third: Russia wins only the people's wars. She does not win wars in which the main interest is the oligarchs. Only popular wars are won by Russia. In this regard, the Great Patriotic War is very different from the First World War, and this is a lesson for good fellows. Of course, if good fellows have brains.
  26. Mishanya 84
    0
    2 August 2014 11: 17
    Quote: tanit
    He has a grandfather.Ya. ))) And about the fact that proto-Ukrainians dug up the Black Sea manually - I won’t tell him)))

    And Rome also built two forelocks. laughing
  27. Ivan 63
    +1
    2 August 2014 11: 37
    The war between the West and Russia NEVER stopped - only the vector of hostility and hatred for the people of Russia was reduced or increased, and therefore the Anglo-Saxons had no difference under which banners to destroy our state - this must be recognized as the primary and irreplaceable idea of ​​the Revival of Russia - for otherwise we will again get bogged down in the internal "conflict" of the liberating kov and the PEOPLE, the ki must be destroyed, and moreover loudly and without fail. And only in these conditions, the "values ​​of the West" will turn out to be a veil and this so-called "democratic" order will collapse to its deserved bottom and this must be promoted in every possible way.
  28. +3
    2 August 2014 12: 31
    17. Crowd of jubilant monarchists on Palace Square opposite the Winter Palace
    Yes, they don’t have to fight, for this the workers and peasants will give their lives, as all the same these events are relevant now, some rejoice and urge - others shed blood
  29. 3vs
    0
    2 August 2014 13: 05
    There is no news on the site today.
    Another pearl Klitschko !!! laughing
    Klitschko Kievans get ready for the earth new pearl 2.08.2014
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nZr7KCeX0s8

    Here the mayor of Kiev chose for themselves!
    Imagine if they had a president!
    Although, maybe it would be better than the present ...
  30. BelPartizan
    +1
    2 August 2014 14: 07
    It turns out today exactly 100 years of Russia's entry into the First World War, which then passed smoothly into the Second World War! Anniversary however !!! soldier
  31. +2
    2 August 2014 15: 02
    Is it today 3 holidays at once? Airborne Forces Day, Ilyin day and 100 years since the beginning of the First World War. Happy holiday to all! soldier
    1. 0
      2 August 2014 22: 01
      Quote: GHOST29RUS
      This is what today 3 holiday immediately

      A holiday from the word to lead an "idle" lifestyle. not to work according to God's commandment. Day of the Airborne Forces is a date in a calendar, like a professional one. The anniversary is a historic event, but Ilyin's day is a holiday.
  32. 0
    2 August 2014 17: 42
    In truth, the sad date of the modern calendar, which does not need to be repeated, we are not weaker or cooler than our ancestors, we just have Information, and it is not in our interests to make a new continental War, but We are descendants of Great people and that is why we will do everything Right, namely to perpetuate the Memory of those who laid down Their Lives so that WE could be and live, that is why and only for this reason, WE WILL NOT DO AS WE EXPECT FROM US NOW. We know History, honor, MEMORY of our FIGHTERS. and we DO NOT want a repetition of an unnecessary War, We can turn the WORLD and WE will do it. What OUR geopolitical "Friends" would not want
    From myself, as a person, citizen, and a fan of the History of Russia (from Tribes, State and EMPIRE, I will add:
    An excellent selection of photos, a large number of the ones I see for the first time. Thanks to the author of this work, work with the photo archive, knowledge of History and the desire to convey the truth is clearly visible. Thanks to the one who posted.
  33. 0
    2 August 2014 18: 21
    ........... And the Serb left, tapping on a tambourine.
    Crouching on his left shoulder,
    A monkey swayed measuredly
    Like an Indian Maharaj on an elephant.
    The huge raspberry sun
    Devoid of rays
    It hung in opal smoke. Poured out
    Thunderless heat on stunted wheat.
    War was declared that day
    (Vladislav Khodasevich (1886-1939))
  34. +1
    2 August 2014 18: 40
    It is a pity the painful from the Outskirts will not see this photo.
    One of the first "Colorado" tapes. "Klyatye M-Rocks" were worn already in 1915. laughing
    http://www.pravmir.ru/za-veru-tsarya-i-otechestvo-duhovnyiy-front-pervoy-mirovoy
    -fotoekskursiya /
    1. 0
      2 August 2014 22: 05
      Quote: Slovek
      http://www.pravmir.ru/za-veru-tsarya-i-otechestvo-duhovnyiy-front-pervoy-mirovoy

      -fotoekskursiya /

      sent somewhere "page not found".
  35. rodevaan
    +1
    2 August 2014 19: 20
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yes, right down to Moscow, rolled back after success.


    - Can you recall how they rolled under the king? Under the Bolsheviks, we eventually rolled to Berlin, where they hoisted our banner, knocking militarism out of the Fritz for already 70 years. Under the tsar, we eventually rolled back to the Civil War, the collapse of the great Empire, and from the victorious side, in fact, turned into a completely political loser. The army did not fall apart at the front, but from economic and moral decay under tsarist rule. That's what we’ve got to. And if the catastrophe of the 41st year the Reds corrected the Great Victory, then the catastrophe of the 17th year was no longer corrected in the tsar’s cabinet.
  36. 0
    2 August 2014 19: 50
    August 6th is near. A year ago, someone already laid out. I, then, did not save. http://yandex.kz/video/search?text=%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5%20
    %D0%BD%D0%B5%20%D1%81%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%8E%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8F%20%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B8%D
    0%BF%20%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C&path=wizard&filmId=pUq7ZIjJ8gE

    And I personally do not care what we are and what color now.
  37. 0
    2 August 2014 20: 09
    "How they did not succumb to the gloom of death. As the whole world heard from those going on the attack, the Russians do not surrender."
    and all of ours today is secondary. Remember tomorrow. And today, Honor, Glory and Memory.
  38. +3
    2 August 2014 20: 27
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: tanit
    And how will he be right in 5000 years?

    Already after 50 years no one will remember him. I talked with schoolchildren in the doorway about who Lenin is, they don’t know a niche about him, and their children will not even suspect him hi

    Today's students believe that Beethoven is a dog. However, this does not detract from the dignity of the composer. First of all, it speaks of the quality of school education, or rather, its absence.
  39. Second
    +2
    2 August 2014 20: 48
    The monument raises questions: where in this monument "For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland"? The monument looks like a dedication to the White Guard battalion.
    This is not accidental. Here is a subtle falsehood and a lie.
    And now let's look at the monuments of World War II. We all know that the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Stalin I.V. Question: But is there at least one monument to him, as the leader who brought our troops to Berlin?
    PS The answer lies on the surface. Well, the oligarch does not like either Stalin or Nicholas II. As these monuments prove. By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Stalin slammed almost all the participants in the regicide (2-3 people remained Yurovsky and Medvedev). And the rest - a bullet. These are the historical parallels.
    1. His
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      2 August 2014 21: 34
      Unfortunately, we have a system of oligarchy built up, which is in the United States, only there is the world's main oligarchy of capital, and we just have ordinary people. But still this is an oligarchy. And they feel like a fisherman fisherman.
      Why we won the second world and lost the first. Because in the second we did not fight for the oligarchs and their capitals. So make a conclusion to win in the Third.
  40. +1
    2 August 2014 21: 30
    It was once in Prague. Khrushchev tried, blew up.
  41. +1
    2 August 2014 23: 05
    Oh, if our "allies" did not drag us into this war. England lost its colonies, Austria-Hungary somehow disintegrated along with the Ottoman Empire, but alas ... Nicholas II turned out to be a simple man who also makes mistakes, only his mistake was of a global scale. One thing "pleases" that all the generals who betrayed him were not spared by history and ground together with the Empire they betrayed.
  42. +1
    2 August 2014 23: 15
    Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
    I repeat, the Russians are chopping down the Russians because the Russians don't think with their heads, in Ukraine, like air, a pro-Russian president was needed, not a grabber, but a crystal honest man from the Russian world, you thought that everything would work out by itself, and at this time the West was recruiting its supporters among the Ukrainians, pointing to all the shortcomings of the government (which they themselves corrupted), let everything go to chance, well, while you can mock the Ukrainians and their misfortune (it's just that we were the first to collide), but ahead of you is your turn. I don’t think (don’t remember 41-45), just like Ukraine, you will bend slowly to the west (they are already among you, these zombies) and they will hum like "la-la-la" teasing. Well, let's wait and see how our faith in you will fall to zero.

    The pro-Russian president, and even crystal clear and not a grabber.
    I wonder where such holy people are taken. wink

    Nevertheless, they are no longer small children and understand perfectly well that there are no saints. Especially in power. And even the most correct and holy can be blamed for something, and if there is really nothing to blame, then lie to him and slander from three boxes. And you can also intimidate even him himself by the fact that your leadership is not a blessing for the people, the people are suffering, and you can even find a few bubbles especially suffering for a couple of bubbles.
    It’s easy for Amers, he gave money, he took it by the ass and that’s it ... do with the country and people what you want. Just have time to bring the cookies, but the magazine plots the right to throw, so that people live in a different reality.
    What can be the general Russian world, when, here on the site for many, Tsar Nicholas II is "bloody", and Lenin is a kind and fluffy and generally beloved grandfather, Orthodoxy is the lot of slaves, and old idols, which no one knows, what was the correct name - is it ours, primordially Russian?
    Until everyone understands that this is one common history of our country and its peoples, we must accept everything as it is and what really happened. And no matter how bitter this story may be, but conclusions must be drawn from it, it is critical not to repeat mistakes and take all the good that is possible. And do not idealize the past as a popular print, where only quiet and smooth, but God's grace or the strongest friendship of peasants, workers and labor intelligentsia under the most progressive party leadership.
    And to correlate your perception of history with the real situation and those opportunities that were at that time.
    And over Ukraine and its situation people who have not yet thought about the fact that they themselves can’t do anything, because they have nothing to do with real power, are joking. It’s ridiculous to hear from some Russians that we’ll block your pipe or send troops to Ukraine. Who will listen to you? Putin? or Gazprom’s chief? they have unreal loot spinning there, which is being sawn with whoever is needed and distributed throughout the country, and some Petya Ivanov’s desire to block the pipe does not bother anyone at all. So is the deployment of troops under the authority of the supreme. He will not ask any of the soldiers at all. As ordered, so be it.
    I don’t want to bend to the west, but if we don’t get rid of the "pro-Western" people in all the authorities who have sold or are ready to sell their Motherland for a barrel of jam, it will be difficult to maintain their independence from mattress mats.
    1. nvv
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      3 August 2014 05: 25
      I read it from cover to cover. I got a lot of information for myself. If this was an experiment organized by the administrator, called August 2, I welcome it.
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    3 August 2014 08: 19
    Quote: tanit
    Photos. Just photos. And thanks to the author. And without any "fooling heads".

    Even cats don't purr "just". Everything has a certain meaning. But you can live with a "simple" life position. Your right.
  44. -1
    3 August 2014 11: 07
    Emperor Nicholas II from the balcony of the Winter Palace reads a manifesto on declaring war.
    And ... t, who threw his people into the crucible of an international massacre to work out Western loans! War criminal! It is a pity that he was not judged!
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