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Even before the meeting, which was held between the presidents of Azerbaijan and Armenia with the mediation of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev 24 June 2011, in Kazan, an unprecedented excitement arose in the international press about this. Many of the world's leading media raised the topic of the Karabakh conflict. It seemed that the world community was waiting for results in connection with the meeting in Kazan. It was even considered possible that during the meeting the opposing sides would sign a bilateral framework agreement on Basic Theses, consisting of 14 points.

Armenia - Azerbaijan, far from the world
Russian Foreign Ministry said that "the meeting is to play a decisive role in resolving the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict."



The official comments of Yerevan and Baku, which followed literally in the evening of June 24 and 25, boiled down to the traditional exchange of reproaches, although there were also judgments suitable for understanding the causes of the Kazan failure. According to the published statement of the Foreign Ministry of Armenia, the negotiation process is hampered by the intransigence of the representatives of Azerbaijan, who presented about a dozen completely unacceptable changes and reservations to the negotiable plan. According to the Armenian side, this was done for the sole purpose - by any means to prevent any progress in the Karabakh settlement. At the same time, in Baku they consider that in Yerevan they demand a lot of concessions and must be content with the fact that the representatives of Azerbaijan continue the negotiations without resorting to the use of military force. As an obvious proof of the growing power of the army 26 June a grand military parade was held in Baku.

Many Baku residents are confident that in the event of a resumption of hostilities over Nagorno-Karabakh, their state will be able to win back all the occupied lands from Armenia. According to Interfax-Azerbaijan, this is indicated by the results of a survey conducted by the Ray Monitoring Center (Judgment). To the question whether Azerbaijan will be able to solve the long-standing problem of Karabakh by military means, if necessary, 58% answered “yes”; 22% - “rather yes than not”; 6% - “no”, 4% - “rather no, than yes”; 10% found it difficult to answer. At the same time, speaking about how to solve the Karabakh problem, 63% of respondents chose negotiations, and 33% chose the military option.

The survey also revealed a significant social interest in the military parade, which was held on June 26 in Baku in connection with the Day of the Armed Forces and the 20 anniversary of the state independence of Azerbaijan. Almost all respondents (94%) know for sure about this event or monitored the broadcast on TV, 3% - are familiar with the event, the rest were the first to hear about the parade from the words of interviewers, or found it difficult to answer. As the survey showed, the Baku residents took this action very positively: 88% supported it, 8% reacted neutrally and without interest, and 4% found it difficult to answer or were indifferent to the military parade.

Approximately all respondents (92%) approvingly assessed the creation of the state defense industry. Respondents were asked to give an answer to the following question: “If someone from your family was drafted into the army, what would you choose: that he serve in the army or try to avoid it by any means?”. And 84% of Baku residents stated that they would like their relative to be called up for active military service. We were at a loss with the final answer of 8%, and about the same number admitted that they would like to avoid using any means of military conscription for their own children. A sabotage of social judgment was held in Baku on June 26-28.

EU President Herman Van Rompuy pointed out that "now is the time to make additional efforts to reach a final agreement on basic theses." French President Nicolas Sarkozy in a telegram sent to President Serzh Sargsyan stressed that the time had come to legitimize the Basic Theses. US President Barack Obama, who, during telephone conversations with the presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan, called on them to “finalize and support the Basic Theses”, added fuel to the already blazing fire.

The war in Nagorno-Karabakh threatens the interests of NATO

“We are all disappointed that during the meeting of the presidents of Azerbaijan, Armenia and Russia in Kazan we didn’t achieve significant progress in the Karabakh settlement issue,” special representative of the NATO Secretary General in the Caucasus and the Central Asian republics James Appathurai said in an interview to ArmInfo news agency.

In his words, the Kazan meeting was an excellent opportunity for progress. “It's a shame that this did not happen,” Appathurai noted, adding that only diplomacy is the only way to progress. As he noted, NATO has a clear position on this issue - contention cannot have a military solution as an exit; the use of force will lead to the loss of significant military potential of each of the parties, "as well as to the mandatory and inevitable collapse of the political and economic components of the state."

On the eve of the meeting in Kazan, the presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan gave an interview to the international television company Euronews. During the interview, Ilham Aliyev said that Nagorno-Karabakh is the territory recognized by the international community of Azerbaijan, and the maximum that its state agrees to is the granting of the widest autonomy to Nagorno-Karabakh. At the same time, Serzh Sargsyan, the President of Armenia, once again made it clear that Azerbaijan is obliged to recognize the right of the people of Nagorno-Karabakh to self-determination.

James Appathurai did not want to comment in his interview on the statement made by the President of Azerbaijan on the military advantage of Baku over Yerevan, which he expressed after the Kazan talks, during a military parade in the capital of Azerbaijan. "I don’t want to comment on the popular statements of the leaders of any of the 2-s countries, however, what we really need now is to reduce tensions at the level of contact and the intensity of attention to seeking a diplomatic and mutually acceptable political solution," he said.

As Appaturai noted, NATO adheres to the doctrine according to which there will be no winners in the military resolution of the Karabakh conflict. "We believe that when using military force, both parties to the conflict will lose and, first of all, ordinary citizens of 2 countries will lose out because they will suffer losses economically. In addition, this scenario will nullify the process achieved in recent years Thus, diplomacy is an exceptional way for us, which can lead to a finely balanced and mutually acceptable solution, "the NATO Secretary General’s Special Representative explained.

It is also necessary to pay attention to the following fact: from the mediators of the negotiations, the West assumed the role of a distant observer and even the encouraging party, meanwhile, Russia assumed the role of a direct organizer of the negotiations and thereby responsible for their results. It can be said that the negotiators did not make an equal contribution to make the meeting “borderline”; they also played various roles in organizing the meeting.

It is known that one of the Madrid theses concerns the final rank of Nagorno-Karabakh. The exclusive document, which contains the Madrid theses, in a statement adopted by the heads of the OSCE Minsk Group co-chair countries during the summit in the Spanish Aquila, only states that in the near future the final legal rank of the NC will be determined by free expressions of will: “Nagorno-Karabakh through a legally binding expression of will”.

Note that the result recorded in Kazan fully fits into the framework of the above logic: both parties stated that there is agreement on minor issues and there is a desire to continue diplomatic negotiations to agree on unresolved issues. It must be stated that, it is true, everyone, both the mediators and the parties to the multi-year conflict, noted that their expectations, unfortunately, were not fulfilled, but at the same time they stated that it was necessary to continue the negotiations. From the fact that the important document lying on the negotiating table of the party or one of the parties did not accept because of the firm disagreement, it means that we should expect new proposals and a new round of activity of intermediaries.

Sources of:
http://www.armtoday.info/
http://news.day.az/
http://www.gazeta.ru/
http://www.regnum.ru/
http://www.izvestia.ru/
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  1. Gosta
    -6
    9 July 2011 10: 39
    It seems to me that the Americans are somewhat right when the troops were brought into Iraq, constantly something is wrong with these chocks and they are always dissatisfied with everyone .... Let them kill each other and divide the lands between normal states ...
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  4. +4
    9 July 2011 18: 20
    Yes, I would not want to. Any military confrontation near our borders will inevitably aggravate the already not brilliant situation in our country, only this way, on a head-on: an influx of refugees and, as a consequence, increased social tension, especially in the southern federal district, inevitable economic losses, and the possibility of entering there "peacekeepers" in the face of the Pindos, and fixing them there for a long time, following the example of the Balkans. Do we need it?
  5. mitrich
    -3
    9 July 2011 18: 32
    VLADIMIR considers the war for Nagorno-Karabakh unlikely, even almost impossible. But what is going on in the head of Ilham Aliyev? How do you get into it? Suddenly, yes, and decide? He needs a victorious war, he needs ...
  6. +1
    9 July 2011 22: 29
    Of course, their war is not profitable for us, but we know who needs it beyond the oceans.
  7. His
    +1
    9 July 2011 22: 41
    What do we need from the fact that they will wrangle among themselves. Nothing will be lost from us. All the same, both countries will be friends with us.
    1. Marat
      0
      9 July 2011 23: 54
      No, it will, and it will. Stability in the Caucasus paid for by the blood is violated. The influence of Russia will decrease. The role of Pindos and NATO in the region will increase. This conflict was initially promoted by the Democrats during the collapse of the union - later, some openly pierced with confessions.
      Plus, the CSTO member is involved in the conflict and there is a danger of involvement for the rest of the CSTO countries
      1. mishok
        0
        10 July 2011 04: 49
        Well, if it starts, then let's see what the CST is
        1. Ivan35
          +2
          10 July 2011 14: 16
          The adversary is only dreaming that the CST will get involved in this conflict we do not need
          No country can even be admitted to CSTO (just like in 2008) - everyone will be in a foolish position and under the blow of Western propaganda (especially Kazakhstan and Belarus - so as not to jeopardize a more important project - the integration of the union). Russia must find a way to stop the conflict and freeze it until better times. But of course, if it comes to the edge, they will have to defend the Armenians so as not to lose their last positions in the Caucasus
      2. His
        0
        12 July 2011 19: 29
        They want war, well, let them fight in freedom. I am for. It is interesting to see who will win, and with whose help
      3. cVM
        cVM
        0
        20 August 2011 18: 18
        odbk does not attack strang cis
        1. zczczc
          0
          20 August 2011 18: 32
          Not attack, but defend.
          How many times has your Obama defended? So we will protect.
  8. slan
    +3
    10 July 2011 14: 27
    Aliyev is an adequate person, all this is empty rhetoric, designed to satisfy local revenge-seekers. Russia should be wary of a color revolution in Azerbaijan. This is really a cause for concern, for the United States it is a very tempting idea.
  9. -1
    10 July 2011 15: 23
    who knows these carnation sellers. Moreover, there Turkey stirs up water for their benefit, and Pindiks do not sleep, unlike our rudders. After all, ours only have mugs, nano-iPods and shorts in our head !!
  10. Vladimir
    +1
    11 July 2011 09: 03
    Aliyev and the Armenians don’t need a war now. The escalation of the situation is more likely for domestic consumption, because what is there, what is there are huge problems. Tens of thousands of families leave these countries every year and need to be distracted somehow.
    War is possible for several reasons - Russia's geostrategic interests will be infringed. FROM Nabucco to the laying of the trans-Caspian oil and gas pipelines, which are along the bottom. If, for example, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan agree to a double-sided deal and no persuasion helps, then the watermelons will hold everything. The following reasons are Az-Nan’s obvious and real rapprochement.
    The situation will be suspended until these issues are finally resolved. And they will be removed under one condition, the placement of the Russian base in Azer-ne. Tell me the fantasy? No, not at all. It’s just necessary to create a situation for the leaders of Az-na to fall out of the custody of the State Duma, the CIA and BP. How to create it? Easy.
    1. Ivan35
      +1
      11 July 2011 19: 57
      It would be nice to take the Azeris from under NATO to us. But as? It seems that the Turks, too, like the Tatars, Bashkirs, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, etc. - but everyone is with us, and these are somehow looking to the side
      1. zczczc
        0
        20 August 2011 18: 33
        Who, Turks, Bashkirs and Kyrgyz with us ???
        They are with the one who pays.

        I did not understand about the Tatars. Tatar (not Crimean) is Russian with a small admixture of Asian blood.
        1. Turkoman
          0
          15 November 2011 22: 32
          LOL what?
          Tatars, whatever the Turks!
    2. Rustem10000
      +2
      5 January 2013 18: 06
      You confuse us with the Armenians after the collapse of the USSR when all countries began to kick out the Russian garrisons, only the Armenians left them why? you know them well
  11. 0
    12 July 2011 22: 36
    Commentators have forgotten that not only Buka and Yerevan play this card. This card has not yet arrived.
    When you need to resolve the issue with Nabucco, Russia will have a strong interest in this area. The United States (with its financial crisis) may lose this card to weaken its neighbors.
    1. slan
      0
      12 July 2011 22: 45
      That's the joke that the Russian Federation can play this card, and not vice versa. Nabuke any destabilization to anything.
  12. Rustem10000
    +2
    5 January 2013 18: 03
    We don’t need a war either, and ODBC does not have the right to intervene in the Karabakh war, as hostilities will take place in the territory of Karabakh, which is considered legal part of Azerbaijan
  13. +2
    26 September 2017 17: 12
    How many Nazis in the comments