ABC News journalist: Ukrainian security forces attacked the disaster area of ​​Boeing-777 with ballistic missiles

In the Twitter microblog of ABC News, a journalist from the American television station, Kirita Radia, it was reported that Ukrainian security forces fired ballistic missiles in the disaster area of ​​Malaysian Boeing 777, notes "RT in Russian". Over the past 48 hours, the military used the tactical missile system "Tochka" to deliver three blows at the settlement of Snezhnoye, Radia said.

Earlier, the American television channel CNN reported that the Ukrainian security forces fired several short-range ballistic missiles on the territory of Donbass. At the same time, the military analyst of the channel referred to three high-ranking sources in the US government. According to CNN, this is a "significant escalation of the conflict."

“Not so long ago, three US civil servants confirmed in an interview that US intelligence over the past two days had recorded the launch of several short-range ballistic missiles from territory controlled by Ukrainian government forces in territory controlled by the militia. This would mean a significant aggravation of the situation. Short-range ballistic missiles, ”Barbara Starr told CNN.

Lifenews notes that the US State Department spokesman Jen Psaki declined to answer the question: "Does the US have information that the Ukrainian military are firing on the territory of the militia with medium-range missiles?" In addition, she noted that she does not know who shelled a nursing home in the city of Lugansk.

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[bender8282]

this is agony! do not give a shit in slippers, and hide under the sofa!

[dima67]

They were already completely crazy.

[i80186]

Who knows how much they went, in the sense that they went up to the cluster warheads or just a landmine.

[Scandinavian]

My personal opinion, the people, it is a stuffing of information for the further use by Amer of tamahawks in Ukraine or other similar systems .... because such infa appears before something really happens ....

SO I'm afraid now the Tamahawks will fly on the heads of ukrov and militias ...

[stalfal]

If this were not a throw-in, our media would have written about it.

[vlad-ns]

Last night in the news on all the central channels reported the use of army ukrov BR.

[FACKtoREAL]

Quote: Scandinavian

this is a stuffing of information for further use by Ameri tamahawks in Ukraine

international game rules dictate DO NOT INTERFERE actively ...
one has only to show the militia the wreckage of the "Tomahawk" ...
Russia’s hands will be untied for illegal deliveries of anti-aircraft missile systems, MANPADS, military air defense systems, armored vehicles, self-propelled artillery, ammunition and equipment of all kinds, and the main thing is FINANCIAL support for the army of New Russia.
After that, the junta will remain only until the elections to the Rada ...

[Cynic]

Quote: FACKtoREAL

Russia will have free hands for illegal supplies

Can legal ?

[Duke]

The militia discovered fragments of an unexploded ballistic missile warhead, said Lugansk military commander Sergei Grachev. According to him, a fragment of the shell was found near the station of Vergunka in the Luhansk region. On the eve of CNN, citing sources in U.S. intelligence, Ukrainian security officials began using short-range ballistic missiles.
30 July 2014, 12: 13
“Today I was where this head lies. It didn’t completely tear, only the cassettes worked out of it, and the head itself remained safe and sound, ”RIA Novosti quotes Sergey Grachev as saying. “She (the warhead) is large, a little shorter than me, although I’m eighty-eight meters,” he added.
Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/43113#ixzz38wECLwpN

[ispaniard]

No, captain, they didn’t go crazy ... To go crazy, you first need to have -UM yourself. The junta at the manual control of the US State Department about this live admitted PARASHA himself (apparently wants to remove responsibility in advance).
And yet, what is important about this news was announced in CNN ... In my opinion, this is another challenge to Russia -Ukrainians say they are already shooting ballistic missiles in the Donbass and you don’t send all the troops ...
P.S. By the way, the missiles did not reach their targets, so someone "Politely" landed them ...

[stalfal]

Quote: ispaniard

By the way, the missiles did not reach the targets, so someone "Politely" landed them ...

With the help of particularly well-aimed gunners of dill, most likely they did not even have to land.

[GRAY]

Quote: ispaniard

Missiles by the way never reached the targets

It’s strange that this junk took off altogether.
2000 - the last "successful" launch made by the Ukrainian army.

Brovary disaster is an accident that occurred in the city of Brovary (Kiev region). At 15:30 an explosion thundered in a residential 9-storey building. 3 people were killed, 5 more were injured. The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine admitted that the cause of the tragedy was the hit in the house of a training ground-to-ground missile. Military experts named one of the possible causes of the explosion of the gas generator of the rocket's power supply system, which broke down during the flight. There was an explosion of the gas generator, which is located in the tail section, and is a powder charge. In the course of this, according to the conclusions of the experts, the rocket became "unguided and continued its flight as a freely thrown body at an angle to the horizon." Other people now live in the restored building - the victims were relocated to Hrushevsky Street.

[ussr1960]

Quote: ispaniard

P.S. By the way, the missiles did not reach their targets, so someone "Politely" landed them ...

Where does this information come from?

[ispaniard]

Analytics comrade junior lieutenant, ordinary analytics;)

[Rusi dolaze]

About landing
http://www.oplot.info/content/veter-armageddonahronologiya-sobytiy

[FACKtoREAL]

Quote: ispaniard

By the way, the missiles did not reach the targets, so someone "Politely" landed them ...

It seems to me that these Ukropskie "Points-U" are still "flying" favorably choosing the "landing site" ... with a particularly poisonous warhead

[seregatara1969]

UM is the Ukrainian brain?

[Duke]

LifeNews found out what ballistic missiles Ukraine could launch. We are talking about "Tochka U", developed in the USSR in the 70s. In addition to the missile itself, the complex consists of a launcher, arsenal equipment and several types of tractors. As of 2013, Ukraine had 90 such missiles: 78 in storage, and another 12 are on alert and are at the missile brigade in the city of Khmelnytsky. However, the security officials have no combat experience in using these complexes.
“In Ukraine there was only one case of the use of short-range ballistic missiles,” said political analyst Vladimir Evseev. - And then they got into a residential building. Although there was shooting without real ammunition, the structures were broken and one Ukrainian resident was killed. This is an indicator of how the Ukrainian army can shoot.
Thus, terrible weapons, the use of which can lead to a huge number of victims, are in the hands of people who simply do not know how to handle them.
In the state of first readiness, "Point U" shoots every two minutes, while the weapon is highly accurate. The launch range is up to 120 kilometers.
“Today it is the heaviest ammunition used in Ukraine,” said military observer Vladislav Shurygin. “One rocket can destroy a nine-story house.”
The flight path is calculated using digital terrain maps. The complex is used to destroy tactically important objects, for example, to render harmless an enemy command post or storage facility. Kiev to strike at the militia could use missiles with different types of military equipment.
“They can use either high-explosive fragmentation rockets with an area of ​​2,3 hectare or cluster missiles,” explained Anatoly Tsyganok, head of the Center for Military Forecasting. - The latter are used to strike at manpower and armored vehicles in open areas.
On July 29, the American CNN channel announced the launch by the Ukrainian military of a ballistic missile against militias. A military expert said this, citing data from government sources.
According to him, over the past two days, the Kiev authorities fired several short-range ballistic missiles in the Donbass. The place from which the launches were carried out, as well as the purposes for which they were launched, are not specified.

[svp67]

Quote: bender8282

this is agony!

Alas, no ... although HOW I would like

Quote: dima67

They were already completely crazy.

This is most likely ...
As

For the past 48 hours, the military has used the Tochka tactical missile system to launch three attacks on the Snezhnoye settlement, Radia noted.

can mean only one thing - the junta does not see its citizens in these cities, because the force of the weapons used is EXTREMELY EXCESSIVE, after that it remains only to use tactical nuclear or BOV ... The area of ​​destruction of one cluster warhead "Tochka" is 300x300 meters, guaranteed destruction ... C with my inner fear I await photos of the places of impact ... Nazis are the same everywhere and this case is the clearest confirmation of this ...

[Vik.Tor]

Tracks are destroyed and everyone understands this, but you won’t do anything.

[Nick]

Quote: Vik.Tor

Tracks are destroyed and everyone understands this, but you won’t do anything.

If everyone understands, then this is already good.

[demon1978]

svp67
... The area of ​​destruction of one cluster warhead "Tochki" is 300x300 meters, guaranteed destruction ...

Vik.Tor SU Today, 09:44 ↑
Tracks are destroyed and everyone understands this, but you won’t do anything.

They will dig it up sharply and plant the beet (they will eat something in the winter) ??? !!! If they used proof, they will love it !!
Current pins and gay menagerie in the UN, they are in ONE PLACE !!!

[Nevsky_ZU]

Well, I do not believe in the launch of the Tochka rocket. Well, in the 2001 year, it turned out that this area was completely degraded in the Ukrainian Armed Forces, both in terms of personnel and weapons.

[nahalenok911]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Well, I do not believe in the launch of the Tochka rocket. Well, in the 2001 year, it turned out that this area was completely degraded in the Ukrainian Armed Forces, both in terms of personnel and weapons.

Also I think. This information from the United States against its "beloved wife" fits into only one argument: to scuttle the evidence of the Boeing crash by any means. Maybe a tactic of intimidating specialists.

[Hariva]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Well, I do not believe in the launch of the Tochka rocket. Well, in the 2001 year, it turned out that this area was completely degraded in the Ukrainian Armed Forces, both in terms of personnel and weapons.

With these launches in general - the theater of the absurd - is not otherwise. And where are the comments of the earman? No evidence or rebuttal. As if this is not about them. Even Avakov, a recognized master of verbal diarrhea, heroically silent on a tweet
I have one explanation. The Americans just came up with this performance. What for? Yes, they are already preparing the ground for the merger of the junta. Do not pull the burden.
By the way, our military does not comment on the launch fact, SE also shrugs the same ...

[Uncle]

Quote: Hariva

Yes, they are already preparing the ground for the merger of the junta. Do not pull the burden.

I do not believe something too fast. And Ukraine is not completely destroyed. Ahead of winter, amers are also interested to see how dill jump like the Germans near Stalingrad. By the way, during the war in those parts, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, von Kleist with his tanks, the 6th Paulus Army, was operating. Now here is Avakov with Poroshenko. Shame on Ukraine !!!

[demon1978]

Ukraine does not consider itself guilty of the death of the Russian Tu-154 10 years ago ("1 + 1", Ukraine)
However, with the conclusions of the interstate commission, that is, actually with its own fault, Ukraine still did not agree. The main argument was the examination of Ukrainian scientists. There it was said that the rocket with its trajectory could not fall into the tail of the aircraft.

The dill then abandoned the "BUKOV" ??? or why did they dump it there ?? - THE LAW IS NOT WRITTEN FOR THE FOOLS (if it is written, it is not read, etc.)
They stupidly came up with an OTMAZ-Israeli plane over the Black Sea in 2001, shot down by Russia. And Kuchma covered Putin
And they even collected "a bunch of evidence"
And if "Tochka" got somewhere in a hospital or a kindergarten, be SURE the dill with pi-dosomi ALREADY HAVE "PROOF" on GDP, well, extreme on the militias !!!

[Matroskin 18]

In addition, she noted that she did not know who was shelling the nursing home in the city of Lugansk.

Like who?!! Of course, old men-separatists-terrorists! Let them fire at them!

[Kuvabatake]

Yeah, they didn’t divide a glass under the jaw-prostheses or a place on a park bench ...

[Turik]

Something tells me that Parashenko will lead his country under the no-fly zone, with all that it implies.

[inkass_98]

Under the sofa is not necessary, it is necessary to blame on someone (guess who ).

[Nikolav]

Once again I give a reference on the topic.
Russia shot down Ukrainian missiles, the story of Israeli missiles fired over Syria was repeated. It seems that the Russian Federation has acquired a truly unique weapon in quality and has already demonstrated its capabilities twice in 12 months. - See more at: http://www.oplot.info/content/veter-armageddonahronologiya-sobytiy#sthash.vokwJT

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[KazaK Bo]

Russia shot down Ukrainian missiles

Respected! I would be very grateful ... if you call ... when we managed to relocate to the region from C 400 or A 135 from MOSCOW REGION! I don’t know any other means of combating BR ... even if they are short-range ... Perhaps I am very behind the current stage of rearmament of the Russian Armed Forces ... but ...

[Status]

With 300 will not take "Tochka"? Anti-aircraft gunners, tell me?

[cat hippopotamus]

The "Thor" of the latest modifications is quite capable, but it has a small all-round viewing radius, which requires a more powerful station for detecting at distant approaches. The S-400 can also fight such targets on its own.

[SVAROGE]

It's finally cleared up! And then the "babina" was seething: why all this circus with CNN ...?!
In short, they again gave the Saxons back!

Vova, Volodya, Vovochka, turn to the fullest in our favor ..., from this situation! It's time !!!!!

[Giant thought]

The next passage of the crazy fascist junta.

[Alexander Romanov]

Where did the rockets fall, if any?
In the news feeds, they say, the Russians shot down these missiles. In short, some kind of crap with these missiles.

[Magic archer]

It is a pity that they did not immediately rush at the start. The life of the dill points has expired long ago.

[enot73]

Quote: Magic Archer

It is a pity that they did not immediately rush at the start. The life of the dill points has expired long ago.

So these missiles, or rather the place where they went, are now all looking for and not finding. And the ukry are silent and also do not disclose the goals and results of the launch, something is wrong here ...

[theadenter]

do not divulge launch goals and results

So the State Department here recently promised to provide the coordinates of the most serious militia forces.

[aleks 62]

..... Looks like they didn’t rush .... All the same, they did well at the USSR, if after so many years it still works ....

[Nick]

Quote: Magic Archer

. The life of ukropovskih Points has long expired.

In the USSR, they did with a margin, including the terms of operation, especially with regard to weapons and military equipment ...

[Magic archer]

I don’t argue. But knowing how dill related to the storage and operation of its equipment (not only rocket) it’s generally strange that they took off! A solid rocket, if it were liquid fuel, then nothing would have come of them

[roman72-452]

Traces are being covered up before the eyes of the "enlightened" Europe and the American mongrel OSCE.

[Nick]

Quote: roman72-452

Traces are being covered up before the eyes of the "enlightened" Europe and the American mongrel OSCE.

There is a wise Russian proverb - You can’t hide the awl in a bag ...

[bubalik]

,,, when the State Department spoke about Boeing, we do not believe - "Where is the evidence?" reported the launch of the bal.rocket "We believed?", it turns out we believe in what we want to believe?

,,, if there were launches: there is no confirmation from the militias, there is no confirmation from the officers of the Russian Federation ,,,

,,, why all this hysteria with missiles

[navara399]

Well, these shoot, they have a great experience ... The crisis of common sense. This is no longer treated, only amputation.

[Hariva]

Why is the use of ballistic missiles a significant exacerbation of the situation? What is the difference than leveling a residential high-rise building with the earth? BR or a gulp of a hurricane?

[aleks 62]

..... That's right .... Or ordinary FAB-500 ....

[Nick]

Quote: Hariva

why is the use of ballistic missiles a significant exacerbation of the situation? What is the difference than leveling a residential high-rise building with the earth? BR or a gulp of a hurricane?

Here, I think, depends on the class of weapons, Hurricane, indiscriminate weapons operating on areas, and Point-U is classified as WTO, that is, weapons belonging to a more high-tech class.
And so of course, the house can be destroyed from an RPG, if there are enough shots ...

[Northerner]

But thank God that they do not have nuclear weapons !! These svidomity brainless if it was available and I would have used it I have no doubt about it! Now I’m thinking, but will they risk using biological and chemical weapons, if available or with someone else’s supply?

[ALABAY45]

"US intelligence over the past two days recorded the launch of several short-range ballistic missiles"
What a strange intelligence the USA has! He fixes surface-to-surface missiles, but not surface-to-air missiles? The Tu-160 has every chance!

[Pasus]

dill flickers traces of their crimes, it must be said that it is arrogant and quite successful. In general, the stalemate in our country is sad, God forbid, BB-chu and the team to resolve the situation in our favor.

[Leviton]

oh, how all their arguments are pouring in ... and they won’t say out loud that they themselves approved it all ....
The truth will come its way (the truth this time, it’s chosen a long way )

[Evgeny_Lev]

Wick apparently lit up, previously scattering through the trenches

[Zubr]

They bury evidence of their crime.

[Shustov]

But does it make sense to just use them without special warheads?

[i80186]

Quote: Hariva

Why is the use of ballistic missiles a significant exacerbation of the situation? What is the difference than leveling a residential high-rise building with the earth? BR or a gulp of a hurricane?

The fact that the continuous area of ​​destruction is even the most simple - a high-explosive warhead "Tochka" 2-3 hectares, but if a cassette warhead - then 3,5-7 hectares. Immediately from one bunch. Most importantly, there is no need for huge crap like a hurricane, where the launcher itself, the loader itself, and much more to carry, and 80 km is not 20.

[MichaEL78]

It is very likely that everything went to Ukrov's "Business" ... They just can't get to the crash site ... They cover their backside as best they can ... Now they have begun to hit with ballistic missiles ... It seems that if They had an atomic weapon, they would have used it long ago ... This is already real agony ...

[tol100v]

The bombardment of militias with "Tochki" is another topic for a briefing of the RF Ministry of Defense, and I really want to hear at it: who, when, where, and all the data of objective control unsaid at the previous press conference! I think it's time to LAY OUT ALL the dirt on this ukro-Fashington scum!

[RUSLAT]

And who said that there was a shelling? Three informed members of the US government. So they "informed" a lot of things, and the mountains in Rostov and Ukraine in Pakistan ...

[stayer]

And yet, were there really starts or someone piz ..it?

[February]

I would like from our confirmation in the launch, infa is considered true if it is from three different sources of AXIOM.

[morpogr]

Just scum, this is how you need to love money and hate your people.

[dobrik10]

No confirmation of launches from our M.O. and not to respect yourself with the star-striped ones, not to mention official sources that surfaced again. I’ll write that aliens landed in Texas, let the Yankees search, because the information is reliable directly from social networks ...

[SVAROGE]

Apparently, our Moscow Region is reporting that the 3rd World War could start yesterday .... therefore, do not rush to comment!

[fedor13]

Just do not get tired to surprise !!! With such a fantasy, they and the reactor can explode, which I’m even afraid to imagine !!!

[RUSLAT]

Most likely a little inconsistency, they threw off the information, and the junta failed, couldn’t launch the rocket, ..... Well, they drained fuel from them .... And without a pale one it doesn’t take off .... Joke.

[leglun]

Well, if this is confirmed by the Russian Ministry of Defense, then it doesn’t climb into any gates.

[mig31]

How would all these weapons be sent to Fashington, the Pentagon, Langley and other hellish places of mattresses, tell me ...

[rotmistr60]

Primary information about the firing of medium-range missiles passed through Amer. MASS MEDIA. At the same time, it was specifically indicated that the launches were carried out from the territory of the controlled aircraft of the u.kropiya. Kerry makes a statement that U. Kropia stops shelling.
Something again conceived. We must wait for another dirty trick, it is possible that it is worse than a downed plane.

[cosmos132]

Today, the junta promised to go to a ceasefire, more than 200 units were thrown into battle two days ago. armored vehicles and released several Points. The stronghold said that two columns of equipment were destroyed - 109 units. and + 16 total 125.
What's next? No ceasefire - just crush.

[Uncle lee]

Reminds the agony of the Third Reich at 45 ...

[LVMI1980]

It must be remembered that the "Tochka" refers to high-precision weapons (both the old "Tochka" and the modernized "Tochka U" in the late 80s (up to 120 km), but it has more than 5 types of warheads

[Flinky]

These missiles were shot down. Us. After that the aged fagot Kerry yelled sharply about "truce" ...
Something again conceived, freaks.

[KazaK Bo]

These rockets were shot down. Us.

What, dear? Enlighten! Only one thing comes to mind - only WITH THE SLATTER!

[kostyan77708]

Quote: RUSLAT

Most likely a little inconsistency, they threw off the information, and the junta failed, couldn’t launch the rocket, ..... Well, they drained fuel from them .... And without a pale one it doesn’t take off .... Joke.

Your statement, in the light of recent events, may well be true, Ukrainians sold and ruined their army for 23 years .... P.S. solid rockets in my opinion

[wasjasibirjac]

Quote: RUSLAT

and the junta failed, couldn’t launch a rocket, ..... Well, they drained fuel from them .... And without a palette it doesn’t take off .... A joke.

Quote: kostyan77708

23 years, the Ukrainians sold and ruined their army .... P.S. solid rockets in my opinion

then it’s not leaked, but picked out. everything will fit in the household. The result is one.

[Dormidosha]

Well, it is necessary to go down the whole country SO, I’m not talking about the leadership! Evil is not enough for all this gang of idiots and cowards! It's only the beginning ! It is necessary to prepare comrades, spiritually, morally, physically for more serious events (I mean fully large-scale military operations). God bless us !

[kim. 230752]

In 1974 I had the good fortune to participate in the production and verification calculations for "Tochka" - 9P129. And we did it very well. One hope is that the configuration of the solid-fuel rocket engine will change from time to time, the combustion law will change accordingly and the control system will not cope with the abnormal operation of the engine. Then the missiles will not hit the target.

[Roman 1977]

According to Aunt Vika, Ukraine had 2013 Tochka-U launchers in 90

The Military Balance 2013. - P. 239.

Moreover, Ukraine has a "successful" experience of using "Tochka-U":

On 20 on April 2000, a rocket was launched from the Goncharovsky training ground, located 130 km north of Kiev, which, after launch, deviated from the course and went to 15: 07 hit a residential building in Brovary, breaking through the building from the ninth to the second floor . 3 died and 5 people were injured (according to other sources, there were also three wounded). Fortunately, the rocket was equipped with an inert warhead, otherwise there would have been significantly more victims. The cause of the tragic incident by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine called the failure of the missile control system

To date, the 19 th missile brigade, which is stationed in Khmelnitsky in western Ukraine, and has 12 9K79-1 Tochka-U complexes, which are directly subordinate to the main command, remained in the Ukrainian ground forces. According to available information in 2011, the Russian OJSC NPK Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering (the developer of the complex) carried out work on the examination of approximately 50 9M79-1 missiles of the Tochka-U complex from the arsenal of the Ukrainian 19th missile brigade, as a result of which the service life of these missiles was extended until 2015.
In our turn, along with the R-17, we used the Tochka-U in Chechnya in the first and second Chechen campaigns. The targets were previously identified by means of space reconnaissance. In particular, the complex was used to strike at a large weapons depot and a fortified camp of militants in the Bamut area, in a special operation in the village of Komsomolskoye in March 2000:

Another attempt to leave the village - at the junction of the positions of the 503 regiment and the Interior Ministry unit - was thwarted by the use of the Tochka-U operational-tactical missile. The zone of continuous defeat occupied an area of ​​the order of 300 by 150 meters. The missiles worked filigree - the blow fell precisely on the bandits, without affecting their own.

G. N. Troshev, “The Chechen Kink: Diaries and Memories”

The complexes were also used during the hostilities in South Ossetia in August 2008.
In Syria, "Tochka-U" is used by government forces against the Basmachi.

[alselu]

Quote: fedor13

Just do not get tired to surprise !!! With such a fantasy, they and the reactor can explode, which I’m even afraid to imagine !!!

The reactors themselves will begin to break when they switch from Russian nuclear fuel to Amer. This has already been written and said a thousand times. For our reactors and amer rods are not compatible. Trying to harm Russia, they harm themselves in the first place. It will be sad. It will go to both us and the geyrop. Chernobyl will seem like a flower. I hope they have enough brains and common sense will prevail.

[Stanislas]

Quote: alselu

Trying to harm Russia, they harm themselves in the first place.

They do not harm themselves in the first place, as they hope to watch the series "Nuclear Apocalypse in Eastern Europe" from the Western Hemisphere. Until the wind carries the radioactive dust to them ...

[kostyan77708]

good news from Mariupol:
Relative peace in the coastal city of Mariupol, which has been considered since mid-June as the deep rear of the forces taking part in the punitive expedition to New Russia, has been regularly violated by yesterday's partisan snipers. So, in the morning of July 29, army GAZ-66 was fired by snipers, on which patrols of Ukrainian punishers drove around, and closer to lunch, the Urals harnessed by an artillery gun came under fire.
By evening, snipers hit a more serious target: an American adviser who was swimming in the sea from among those 180 who had recently arrived in Ukraine was shot through by a sniper bullet, and then plunged under water. While his associates tried to find a place for shelter, which was never found on the bare beach, the wounded American managed to choke safely.

This is the third American instructor killed in the former city of Zhdanov. Two American advisers were already shot dead in Mariupol on 24 July.
In addition, four racial American blacks were killed the other day during the battle of Dubrovka. These unexpected losses led to the fact that half of the instructors had already requested home, and the rest agreed to continue the mission only away from the front line.
http://warfiles.ru/show-65026-v-mariupole-snaypery-partizany-ubili-esche-odnogo-
americanca.html

[SVAROGE]

May God help the brothers from Zhdanov !!!

[tag17]

How many installations in Ukraine are in good condition? 90 pieces were written last year. Officers only know the theory. The latest launches were made in the early 2000s. Then we got into a residential building. This weapon is dangerous for everyone around.

[alex_78]

That really is!

[rotmistr60]

By the way. If in the next few days we find out that the piglet died of a heart attack, or he was shot by a personal guard (naturally recruited by the militia under the leadership of the GRU.) Then the states will say that they finally deciphered their pictures ("Focus" was bad) and found that the plane was accidentally shot down Air defense u.kropii during exercises.
Conspirology.

[Dave36]

I think the stuffing

[shaman-25rus]

Under this guise, the Americans can bump into the intercontinental. with a conventional warhead. and then they say that Ukrainians themselves ....

[Dunno]

Simply, if ballistic missiles were used, then this is a war, not an ATO. Well, salute seems to be in commemoration of the 100th anniversary of the beginning of the First World War.

[kostyan77708]

Quote: shaman-25rus

Under this guise, the Americans can bump into the intercontinental. with a conventional warhead. and then they say that Ukrainians themselves ....

they can’t! Our SPRN is not asleep, they’ll spot it at the start, for such jokes you can thermonuclear and not just get one

[vlad-ns]

S.U.K. And from the OSCE:

The authorities of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) are considering the possibility of ending cooperation with the OSCE in the investigation of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing, RIA Novosti reported. According to representatives of the republic, the OSCE helped to prepare the advance of the Ukrainian army on the position of militias.

“With the help of OSCE representatives, Ukrainian troops, under the pretext of the need for their access to the crash site, surrounded a small group of the DPR army, which, by agreement with the OSCE, guarded the crash site. Now the Ukrainian security forces are methodically destroying it. This is a violation of all agreements. We were trapped under the guise of international intermediaries. And they willingly played this role, ”a source in the republic’s government said.

He added that a similar case occurred when the president of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko declared a truce. In his opinion, this was done to regroup the Ukrainian troops and prepare for a further offensive.

According to an official from the DPR, the authorities intend to stop working with the OSCE and involve representatives of the SCO and organizations of the Asia-Pacific zone in the investigation of the plane crash.

“The OSCE, as it turned out, is a structure completely controlled by the USA. But it’s impossible to negotiate with the Americans. They always violate their obligations, ”he said.

Boeing 777 Malaysia Airlines crashed in eastern Ukraine on July 17. 298 people were on board the ship, 193 of them were Dutch citizens. None of the passengers and crew members survived. The main version of the crash of a plane is rockets falling into it. At the same time, both Kiev and the militias deny their guilt in what happened and transfer responsibility to each other.

[O. Bender]

On the comment psak harfie you just need to score. And so everything is clear to us one template is unknown. ... substitute the necessary.

[Alstorm]

And where is there any evidence that these missiles were launched by the Ukrainian side? Or do we already believe CNN's allegations?

And if they say tomorrow that we will iron Ukraine with tanks, will we also believe? Or will we believe in what is beneficial to us?

[SVAROGE]

Amerikosy in vain for sure will not be raking !!! If only to whom ....!

[February]

The authorities of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) are considering the possibility of ending cooperation with the OSCE
Denied this news DNR

[1536]

The criminal always returns to the scene of the crime to cover his tracks.

[Vovavvs]

Come on ... And why shouldn't Petka shoot! Since everyone is silent (including Russia) when using "forbidden" bombs and scared away from the border ... So this is just the beginning ...

[Sultan]

And the dill themselves know that they are smalalt "Tochka-U" ??? If they do, they are in no hurry to boast, because the result is not visible. Where are they and what happened to them, where did they end up? Meanwhile, the Indian State Department trumpets that Russia has launched missiles on the territory of Ukraine ... Did the anti-missile defense work on "5+"? It seems that the story of the axes in Syria is repeating itself ... The next salvo of a parashka may not survive, it is not for nothing that Kerry fussed ...

[Sultan]

Our air defense shot down three Points-U. Two were sent to the crash site of the Boeing, the third to Saur-Grave. An OSCE mission DNR platoon was destroyed by the Junta’s RDG an hour before the launch of Points. The darkest one showed fangs, and not just smiled)))

By the way, there is infa that one of the Points clearly flew to us, it was cut somewhere above Lugansk. This is already very serious. They will probably look for the heads of the Points to watch the fillings. Oh Ukrainians seem to have lit up amateur performances (((It is unlikely that the Americans gave the go-ahead for this.

The Starts of our Points will now play in our favor to the fullest. I’m not ready for Nuclear from the word. sy first. And among the gay people, their hair is probably on end most likely.

Details: http://mir-mag.livejournal.com/126343.html

[Victor R]

Why does the RF Ministry of Defense not comment on "missile launches"?

[shimus]

I suggest filling US social networks with misinformation! At least we are of some use to the militias.
For example, write that the state of Alaska will be transferred to Russia in exchange for ending support for the militias in Ukraine!

[cat hippopotamus]

There is a possibility that the Ukrainians decided to destroy the wreckage of the Boeing in any way so that experts would not establish the true cause of the disaster. But due to the fact that the last shooting was carried out in 2000 and no more missiles were fired, either the nursing home or the Russian customs will be closed again.

[nomad74]

Quote: ispaniard

No, captain, they didn’t go crazy ... To go crazy, you first need to have -UM yourself. The junta at the manual control of the US State Department about this live admitted PARASHA himself (apparently wants to remove responsibility in advance).
And yet, what is important about this news was announced in CNN ... In my opinion, this is another challenge to Russia -Ukrainians say they are already shooting ballistic missiles in the Donbass and you don’t send all the troops ...
P.S. By the way, the missiles did not reach their targets, so someone "Politely" landed them ...

You are invited to intervene!

[tds-8_78]

The world community is preparing for a nuclear strike.

[sergant6776]

http://www.oplot.info/content/veter-armageddonahronologiya-sobytiy#sthash.vokwJT


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chronology of today's events:
Lavrov makes a statement that he does not want to talk with Kerry.

After this, an announcement is made on [b]CNN about the launch of missiles by the Ukrainian armed forces[/b]. The main thing in this statement is that Russia was not the target of the launches.
After that, a conversation between Lavrov and Kerry (at the initiative of the State Department) took place.
After that, a joint statement is made by Kerry and the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine on an immediate ceasefire.
This is apparently the CONDITION of MOSCOW in which she is ready to suspend the start of hostilities against the APU.
[b]Russia shot down Ukrainian missiles[/b], the story repeated itself with Israeli missiles fired at Syria.
It seems that the Russian Federation has already demonstrated the capabilities of weapons twice in 12 months.
Three rockets, according to CNN, were fired - but they did not hit anywhere ...
[b]The Russian Federation shot down the missiles and it became clear to the amers [/b] that a little more and an army operation would follow.

The junta will be left alone, with Russia free of all brakes. From moral (the dill themselves have lost them - "never again as brothers"), from economic any other restraining factors.
This will be the end, not of Ukraine - of the United States as a hegemon.
This is the scenario feverishly trying to stop the messy Washington gang.

I think that again, once again the army operation that is ready to begin will be stopped.
It is precisely this goal - to stop the troops - that the State Department statement pursues.
Against the backdrop of Kerry's statement of readiness to stop the fire and begin negotiations, crossing the border by the Russian Army will be regarded as a treacherous attack.

clarification of thoughts is required.

Last year, missiles were fired at Syria from an Israeli ship in the Mediterranean.[b]Russia shot them down.[/b]
According to CNN, the Ukrainian Armed Forces carried out at least THREE Tochka-U launches against targets in eastern Ukraine.
CNN's statement was made specifically for the Russian Federation [/b] - not about the launches. And about the fact that dill was making fun not of Russia, but of Donbass.

However, a missile flying towards our border, with an unknown filling in the warhead (despite the fact that Tochka-U is capable of carrying tactical nuclear warheads)[/b]
The junta has gone crazy.

The Russian Federation HAD to shoot them down. Which is what I did.

What followed should have been an adequate response.
That is, a strike on Ukraine, the start of an army operation, etc. Because it is no longer possible to tolerate a monkey with a grenade on your doorstep.
This was the red line. The junta crossed it without blinking an eye and perhaps without even realizing what it was doing.

Kerry just literally a couple of hours ago stopped the entry of the Russian army into the territory of Ukraine.

upd2 If the missiles were launched with the permission or, moreover, at the direction of the Mistresses, if the trajectory showed that they were flying towards Russia... if the United States, giving such an instruction to its lackeys, was ready to answer for the consequences and go to the end - Armageddon would have happened today.

[b]Moscow was given clarifications.[/b]

Judging by the fact that they resorted to the help of CNN for this, it means that Moscow was preparing and assuming the worst option.
And they were ready to fight back.

Let me remind you that during the Cuban missile crisis, Moscow and Washington resorted to television for urgent messages to their opponents.
There was even a story told by one of the participants in the events, when minutes were counting, and he was stuck in the Ostankino elevator with the text of the statement and was pushing pieces of paper through the cracks in the doors...

http://luciusvorren.livejournal.com/121264.html

- See more at: http://www.oplot.info/content/veter-armageddonahronologiya-sobytiy#sthash.JqJX3v
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There is a rational grain in the article, but these are only assumptions for now..... But if THIS IS SO, then THIS IS A BIG STEP in this war.

[mackonya]

As far as I remember, Tochka-U of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was used once during exercises and very unsatisfactorily, so this time too it can be attributed to a mistake.

[wild_boar]

It was an interesting day today
At first, the entire world community (and more specifically, Westerners watching CNN) suddenly found out that ballistic missiles were launched from Ukraine. And infa from the Pentagon itself. But since it is absolutely not clear where these missiles hit (which is generally not surprising, since the Ukrainian missiles), the majority decided that Kiev thus decided to destroy evidence from the crashed Boeing. Well, or militias fighting on the Saur-Grave.
The militiamen, having learned that they were being bombed not only with Grads, howitzers and other firing artillery, but also with the help of operational tactical missile systems, shrugged their shoulders in bewilderment and said, "We are the army."
After that, US Secretary of State Kerry suddenly announced that Kiev wants a truce, and not only a truce, but in general, all Ukrainians understand that their future is connected with Russia. Why this was stated by the US Secretary of State, and not the President of Ukraine, no one is interested in the move.
Europe, looking with dismay at all that was happening, suddenly declared - let’s let us lift the sanctions against Russia. No, of course, provided that Russia will contribute, expand and deepen something there. To which Russia, in the person of Putin, is still silent as usual. That Europe is even more scary.
The Japanese were quietly fucked by all this, since they joined in with these sanctions - and this is such a perdomonocle, and just in case, they decided not to shine.
Having learned about all this catavasia, they got even more fucked up in South Korea - someone just went there to persuade the South Koreans to join these sanctions, which Europe was going to lift.
The Australian Prime Minister looked around and realized that he did not understand anything - he decided not to take risks and still invite Putin to the G20 gathering. Although he had just literally stated that Putin was not worthy ..
On Ukrainian forums, as usual in such cases, they yell that Kerry should be hanged, everyone should be lustrated and, in general, "Panda Get".
In general, the day was cheerful. And what happened there, you can guess the current.
ICAO recognized Crimea as Russian and opened its sky to the whole world.
The International Civil Aviation Organization recognized that Crimea is a Russian jurisdiction - it gave Russia the right to provide air navigation services "over Crimea and territorial waters." This, as the media reported, became known after the meeting between the Deputy Head of the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation Valery Okulov and ICAO Secretary General Raymond Benjamin.
I can offer as a version:
The decryption of the black boxes from the downed Boeing was finally delivered to Washington. And there the pilots shout - "a Ukrainian fighter is shooting at us" .. And then silence.
РќРѕ это РїРѕР »Р ± еды.
There, to Washington, they immediately delivered a flash drive from the Russian embassy, ​​through which the very same pilots shout the same thing.

and most importantly: 29.07.2014/17.30/5 3 Moscow time URGENT. ACCORDING TO THE ACTION OF RDG-XNUMX IN THE AREA OF Raisins - a convoy of US instructors was really attacked, XNUMX instructor officers were killed and General Key Randy Allen was wounded. He commands a punitive operation in the Donbass.
Presumably, he was in charge of Operation Boeing.

[GHOST29RUS]

It seems that what dill called brains has finally disappeared

[bubalik]

...First, the entire world community (and more specifically, Western citizens watching CNN) suddenly learned that ballistic missiles had been launched from the territory of Ukraine. Moreover, information from the Pentagon itself. But since it is absolutely unclear where these same missiles landed (which is generally not surprising, since the rocketeers are Ukrainian), the majority decided that Kyiv thus decided to destroy evidence from the crashed Boeing. Well, or the militias fighting at Saur-Mogila.

The militiamen, having learned that they were being bombed not only with Grads, howitzers and other shooting artillery, but also with the help of operational tactical missile systems, shrugged their shoulders in bewilderment and said, "We are the army."

After that, US Secretary of State Kerry suddenly announced that Kiev wants a truce, and not only a truce, but in general - all Ukrainians understand that their future is connected with Russia. Why this was stated by the US Secretary of State, and not the President of Ukraine, no one is interested in the move.

Europe looking at everything that was happening with fear, she suddenly declared - let’s lift the sanctions against Russia. No, well, provided, of course, that Russia will promote, expand and deepen something there. To which Russia, in the person of Putin, is, as usual, silent for now. Which scares Europe even more.

The Japanese have quietly gone crazy over all this, since they just joined these sanctions - and then there’s such a monocle, and just in case they decided not to show it.

Having learned about all this catavasia in South Korea, they got even more fucked up - someone just went there to persuade the South Koreans to join these sanctions, which Europe was going to lift.

The Australian prime minister looked around and realized that he did not understand anything - he decided not to take risks and still invite Putin to the G20 gathering. Although just recently declared that Putin is not worthy ..

On Ukrainian forums, as usual in such cases, they yell that Kerry should be hanged, everyone should be lustrated and, in general, "Panda Get".

In general, the day was cheerful. And what happened there, you can guess the current.


http://www.nakanune.ru/articles/19268/

[Status]

Quote: cat hippo

The "Thor" of the latest modifications is quite capable, but it has a small all-round viewing radius, which requires a more powerful station for detecting at distant approaches. The S-400 can also fight such targets on its own.

Yes, the performance characteristics are serious,

Firing range
minimum - 15 (15) km[6]
maximum — 70 (120) km
Rocket speed - 1000 m/s[7]
Launch weight - 2010 kg
Engine thrust 9788 kg
Operating time 18-28 s[8]
Flight time at maximum range 136s[9]

Ours should cover the border with modern complexes, I really hope so, and the villages and cities and the refugees are still sitting in their camps. Or were they already sent around the country?

[Hyppopotut]

Quote: Duke

LifeNews
Thus, terrible weapons, the use of which can lead to a huge number of victims, are in the hands of people who simply do not know how to handle them.

In one word: "monkey with a grenade."