Soviet cemetery and the Afghan army

LJ user Ilya Varlamov writes: Most recently, on June 23, US President Barack Obama announced the beginning of the withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan. It was his campaign promise, and Obama consistently fulfills it. 5000 soldiers will go home in July and 5000 by the end of the year. At the same time, few people believe that Afghanistan will be able to solve its problems and become a peaceful country after the withdrawal of American troops.

The general opinion of the Afghans is that the national army is not strong enough to control the situation. The army leadership is corrupt, there are a lot of drug addicts and Taliban supporters among the soldiers. So, if the Americans withdraw their troops, it won't be a month before the Taliban come to power (however, many do not give the Karzai government a few hours). I was able to visit one of the Afghan military bases, as well as see a large dump of old Soviet technology.

Soviet cemetery and the Afghan army

Afghans, of course, know better, but it seemed to me that it was the Afghan army (ANA) and the police (ANP) who controlled the situation in the country. Those units that I was able to see, look quite combat-ready and well-supplied financially. The Afghan army is formed on a contract basis. In order to join the army, it is enough just to be a healthy man 18-35 for years. Soldiers get 150-200 dollars per month, which is very small even by Afghan standards. Despite the low salary, there is no shortage of people willing to serve in the army. Unemployment exceeds 30 percent, and for many army service is the only way to earn a living and support a family.

Officers salary is certainly higher. In general, the situation is quite good with the officer corps. They are trained by American instructors, and the majority of senior officers went through a good school during the struggle with the Shuravi and the civil war. And there are cases when officers who once fought on different sides of the barricades serve in one unit.

I had a chance to get to the ANA military base, where the colonel treated me with tea and sweets for a good hour and told with pride how in his youth he was a mojahed and bravely fought “shuravi” under the command of Ahmad Shah Massoud. At the same time, his deputy, a major, served in the government army in 1980.

The camera, telephone, and even a bottle of water were taken away at the entrance to the carefully guarded territory of the base. This is a real fortress with tall walls, machine-gun towers, barbed wire around the perimeter and a clever entry system that pushes one who is foolish enough to try to break through to the base, into a cunning trap, sweep from all sides. Even a well-armed detachment has no chance of getting out of it.

Inside the base reigns perfect order. Everything is reasonably planned. Soldiers' barracks "stand in orderly rows. Although, frankly, the language does not turn to be called "barracks" neat houses with air conditioning. Administrative and outbuildings are also maintained in perfect condition. Soldiers and officers wear well-fitted American-style uniforms, and generally look like brave warriors. And in case of operational departure is ready column of armored "Hummers".

In that hour, while the colonel gave me tea, I managed to make sure that everything was in order with discipline too. Yes, maybe I managed to get into some elite part, but what I saw was seriously shaken by the prevailing stereotype about the Afghan army as a completely incompetent rabble, which has no clue about discipline and does not recognize army orders.

The police, at first glance, is also fairly well provided. Maybe they scatter when meeting with the Taliban, I can not confirm or deny this, but the police look quite impressive, sitting in the body of the Ford Ranger pickups. Police service is paid at about the same level as in the army - 150-200 dollars for privates and about 300-500 dollars for officers. However, in the police, the possibilities for "additional earnings" are definitely higher. On the question of the scale of police corruption, many simply laughed, for them it goes without saying that the police take bribes, they say, all the same people, but they cannot live on 200 dollars a month. Policemen are trained mainly by European and Canadian experts.

Since they were not allowed to shoot at the base itself, I had to be content with a dump of old Soviet equipment located right outside the gate.

There’s nothing to tell about the technique, so just look at the photos.
Surprisingly, over the years of inactivity, the equipment was not stolen.
As one of the soldiers said, after minor repairs she can go into battle.

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  1. +2
    6 July 2011 11: 26
    It is sad.
  2. mitrich
    6 July 2011 12: 10
    The Afghans are masters, however, like all representatives of the peoples of the East. It just seems to me that when amers from NATO leave Afghanistan, all this motley crowd in foreign camouflage will immediately begin to grow beards and wear "Pashtuns" on their heads. They bought the author of the article with a cheap masquerade, definitely.
    And in the photographs I did not see a SINGLE car with traces of damage. This is, most likely, rotting to the delight of the kids, the equipment left by the Soviet Union during the withdrawal of troops in 1988-1989 of the Afghan army to "protect the gains of the April Revolution." Only now the "shuravi" left, the Afghan army for the most part fled, and the "spirits" simply had no one to put the levers on.
    1. voin-xnumx
      6 July 2011 13: 58
      mitrich: here I was arguing with the brother-in-law to snot about tanks, he finished my good.
    2. His
      7 July 2011 22: 56
      The Americans will never leave there; there will be separate bases. Like in Iraq now. You have to be fools to spend so much money in vain. Moreover, it is a strategic area for control on two fronts (China and the underbelly of Russia)
    3. bamboo
      8 July 2012 19: 54
      Thought about it too !!!
  3. Stefano
    6 July 2011 13: 03
    It is interesting who will enter Afghanistan. The next USSR was America with NATO. Maybe China is next?
    1. voin-xnumx
      7 July 2011 05: 56
      There were also Englishmen, the roads were very good left behind.
  4. mitrich
    6 July 2011 14: 04
    But what, in fact, is the subject of the dispute and how is it related to Afghanistan?
    1. voin-xnumx
      6 July 2011 18: 56
      mitrich: argued about the brands of tanks, I'm like an infantry and he is like a tankman.
  5. +1
    6 July 2011 15: 44
    Yes, the east is a delicate matter. And uncle state mujahideen competently divorced. and he was seduced.
  6. voin-xnumx
    6 July 2011 19: 04
    mitrich: my father is "Afghan" and participated in hostilities. Therefore, I am anxious about this topic.
  7. mitrich
    6 July 2011 19: 43
    Have you been to Chechnya? And if there were, then the first or second?
    1. voin-xnumx
      7 July 2011 07: 42
      I will not answer this topic, I will say that commander General Pereslegin, 166 TP (160TD) Colonel Budanov served in the 5th Motorized Rifle Brigade, and in Transcaucasia there is still something to drown. In general, graduates of LenVOKU join.
  8. mitrich
    7 July 2011 07: 58
    I just wanted to say that Chechnya was cleaner than Afghanistan, so if you were there, then you should not be embarrassed by your father.
    That is all I wanted to say. Sorry if I woke up your suspicions.
    1. voin-xnumx
      7 July 2011 08: 22
      It’s nice to talk with you. I am interested in talking to you.
  9. Komandir_T-72
    9 November 2013 17: 52
    It’s sad to look at all this collapsing technique, which by the way would help a lot, this very ANA
  10. 0
    April 8 2014 13: 42
    The phrase "After minor repairs, the equipment will be ready to fight!"