When an artillery shelling of Slavyansk killed a citizen of Russia

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According to RIA "News", during the shelling of Slavyansk, a Russian citizen died, having arrived in Ukraine from St. Petersburg.



"During the shelling of artillery, the woman could not descend into the bomb shelter and died on the spot," said a spokesman for the militia, adding that the victim had an apartment in Slavyansk.

"RT in Russian" reports that a city substation was damaged in Slavyansk.

“This led to a complete blackout of Slavyansk, as well as disruption of power supply to a number of facilities in the city of Kramatorsk: the central city hospital, maternity hospital and surgical department,” representatives of the power supply company DTEK Donetskoblenergo said.

In addition, the Ukrainian security forces conducted a massive shelling of Kramatorsk, destroying dozens of houses. The city also has problems with electricity.

“There was a very strong shelling of the city, it was literally“ poured ”with shells. Powerful explosions were heard with the same frequency as when firing from a machine gun, ”said a militia spokesman, suggesting that the military used Grad multiple rocket launchers.

Kramatorsk continue to leave residents. 1 July, the city left 4 bus with refugees.
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  1. +2
    2 July 2014 13: 09
    But there’s no peace
    1. +36
      2 July 2014 13: 12
      It’s not regrettable to write, but the deaths of Russian citizens in Ukraine and in the border zone are already becoming commonplace .. And Putin is silent ... (Israel won the air strikes on the gas sector and silence again today for the killed teenagers) damn it.
      1. Stypor23
        +4
        2 July 2014 13: 18
        Quote: MIKHAN
        (Israel won an air strike on the gas sector and silence again today for the killed teenagers)

        Oh, what a pity the information didn’t come across before. So our Air Force needs to strike at the Ministry of Defense, SBU, the Cabinet of Ministers, and the prezik of the Ukrainian side
        1. +9
          2 July 2014 13: 21
          We all ordinary Russians agree with this statement of the question, only the fifth column is still stronger than us, I think so far.
      2. +22
        2 July 2014 13: 29
        Vladimir Vladimirovich, I understand everything, politics there, sanctions, other reasons not visible to the average person. But why, then, was it necessary to shout so impassively to the whole world that the Russians were not abandoning their own?
        1. Associate Professor
          +1
          2 July 2014 13: 41
          Quote: Letun
          But why, then, was it necessary to shout so impassively to the whole world that the Russians were not abandoning their own?

          If you mean the words of Putin on March 18 that "Millions of Russian people, Russian-speaking citizens live and will live in Ukraine, and Russia will always defend their interests by political, diplomatic, legal means. However, first of all, Ukraine itself should be interested in ensuring that the rights and interests of these people are guaranteed. This is the guarantee of the stability of the Ukrainian statehood and the territorial integrity of the country. ", Then Russia is doing this now (well, at least openly).
          1. 0
            2 July 2014 14: 25
            .And Putin is silent ... (Israel won today again for air strikes on the gas sector and silence for the killed teenagers)

            But why, then, was it necessary to shout so impassively to the whole world that the Russians were not abandoning their own?

            Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya - they threw it, the people are indignant for this, but if they throw the SE they will not forgive. And the accession of Crimea will not help GDP to maintain a high confidence rating. Medvedev is ridiculed by many, but he must be paid tribute for the courage to intervene and protect the population of South Ossetia and Abkhazia when he was president, and here the Russian population is being destroyed many times more, and our government is silent. , and our government once again threatens retaliatory sanctions. How long? !!
            1. Associate Professor
              -1
              2 July 2014 14: 40
              Quote: elmir15
              Medvedev is ridiculed by many, but we must give him credit for that he had the courage to intervene and protect the population of South Ossetia and Abkhazia when he was president

              Look, but Medvedev, it turns out, well done?
              No need to write nonsense. In South Ossetia attacked and killed Russian peacekeepers and that was the main reason for our intervention.
              Quote: elmir15
              . Putin himself said this six months ago:

              We are humiliated by the West in front of the whole world

              Nobody humiliates us. Sanctions are their business, if they want, let them introduce it. Let's see who else will get worse from this. Politicians should not be guided by emotions.
              1. +4
                2 July 2014 15: 34
                Quote: Docent
                Look, but Medvedev, it turns out, well done?

                Count as you like, well done or not.
                Quote: Docent
                No need to write nonsense. In South Ossetia, Russian peacekeepers were attacked and killed, and this was the main reason for our intervention.

                You write nonsense. The fact speaks for itself, as president, he ordered the troops to defend South Ossetia and Abkhazia, and the GDP did not dare. Medvedev sent troops not only as you say - from the attack on peacekeepers, but also to protect civilians. What do you need the death of peacekeepers in SE for an official occasion to send troops? and the death of thousands of residents of the SE to you on the drum? don’t you feel sorry for them?
                Quote: Docent
                Nobody humiliates us. Sanctions are their business, if they want, let them introduce it. Let's see who else will get worse from this. Politicians should not be guided by emotions.

                Well, if constant unrequited sanctions from many Western countries are not humiliations for you, then what is there to argue about? Now even the countries of the former USSR are trying to belittle the West to please the West. Could you imagine what would happen in the USSR? I think not, because the answer was constant. And politicians need to love their Motherland at least a little more.
                1. Associate Professor
                  -3
                  2 July 2014 16: 41
                  Quote: elmir15
                  What do you need the death of peacekeepers in SE for an official occasion to send troops? and the death of thousands of residents of the SE to you on the drum? don’t you feel sorry for them?
                  I do not need anyone's death, I just explain the difference to you. When our military is attacked and killed, no government can intervene. And Medvedev brought in troops precisely because they killed our peacekeepers. I generally feel sorry for all the innocent people who are killed every day in the world. Let us now send our troops to all the hot spots.
                  Quote: elmir15
                  Well, if constant unrequited sanctions from many Western countries are not humiliations for you, then what is there to argue about? Now even the countries of the former USSR are trying to belittle the West to please the West.

                  I do not care about their sanctions, it does not humiliate me in any way. sanctions are a sign of weakness. They must do at least something, they have nothing but threats in their arsenal, and they are threatening with sanctions. So they have no other ways to influence us.
                  Quote: elmir15
                  Could you imagine what would happen in the USSR? I think not, because the answer was constant

                  And what, there were no sanctions against the USSR?
                  Quote: elmir15
                  I think not, because the answer was constant. And politicians need to love their Motherland at least a little more.

                  politicians certainly need to love their homeland, but love for the homeland should not overshadow sanity. Probably, Nicholas 2 also loved his homeland when he sent troops to help Serbia. As a result, the country and Nicholas 2 did not.
                  1. 0
                    2 July 2014 19: 56
                    Quote: Docent
                    I do not need anyone's death, I just explain the difference to you. When our military is attacked and killed, no government can intervene. And Medvedev brought in troops precisely because they killed our peacekeepers. I generally feel sorry for all the innocent people who are killed every day in the world. Let's send our troops to all the hot spots now

                    The fact of the matter is that you point out that it is necessary to send troops if they attacked our troops, but if they are not there, then you do not need to lead. That's what you say, I think this position is "ostrich" or "my hut is on the edge "the fact that thousands of our essentially relatives are being killed there for you? after all, your position is not to send troops if our troops are not attacked. Now, if you had relatives in Ukraine, for example, in Slavyansk, did you also think that it was not necessary to send troops? If the boh hadn't killed your loved ones, wouldn't you want to take revenge?
                    Quote: Docent
                    I do not care about their sanctions, it does not humiliate me in any way. sanctions are a sign of weakness. They must do at least something, they have nothing but threats in their arsenal, and they are threatening with sanctions. So they have no other ways to influence us.

                    Are you familiar with dignity and pride? if the West and their countries' henchmen will constantly poke us with sanctions and attacks, and the world seeing that instead of worthy answers, our government will only be indignant and threaten how do you think the rest of the world will think of us? They will look at us with pity. And you, with your head held high, will ignore and ignore the fact that they are essentially wiping their feet about us. Even in Hollywood films we are presented as idiots, and we go to their films bringing them profit.
                  2. 0
                    2 July 2014 22: 12
                    Quote: Docent
                    And what, there were no sanctions against the USSR?

                    There were, but the answer was appropriate. For example, before the NATO courts were afraid to arrest our ships, because they answered the same, and now even third countries arrest our civilian ships.
                    Quote: Docent
                    politicians certainly need to love their homeland, but love for the homeland should not overshadow sanity. Probably, Nicholas 2 also loved his homeland when he sent troops to help Serbia. As a result, the country and Nicholas 2 did not.
                    If all Russian citizens loved their homeland and were patriots there would be no revolutions or unrest, Russia would flourish. Now it is clear that the love of money and power among politicians and oligarchs outweighs the love of the homeland.
                    Quote: Docent
                    Nicholas 2 also loved his homeland when he sent troops to help Serbia. As a result, the country and Nicholas 2 did not.

                    Nicholas 2 was, in my opinion, a weak ruler. He sent not only troops to help the Serbs, he defended national interests as well as other countries. For example, would America calmly look if Canada were conquered by some other country? But he still sent troops against the Japanese in the Russo-Japanese War, we know the result.
            2. Associate Professor
              +1
              2 July 2014 15: 16
              Quote: elmir15
              Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya - they threw it, the people are indignant for this,

              Yes, we threw ourselves in 1991, and you are talking about Yugoslavia and Iraq with Libya.
              1. +1
                2 July 2014 15: 37
                Quote: Docent
                Yes, we threw ourselves in 1991, and you are talking about Yugoslavia and Iraq with Libya.

                I agree. It began with Gorbachev, then Yeltsin, they are all traitors, and Yeltsin also erected monuments.
            3. -1
              2 July 2014 20: 07
              We are not yet up to SE! US will soon again have a sudden check of troops !!! WE are not yet very ready, that’s how we will learn to plow with all our rifles, toda and begin to decide whether to beat or drink, but for now we are not allowed to approach our border. (shame).
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        2. 77bob1973
          +2
          2 July 2014 13: 56
          Exposure and again exposure, if you beat it only in the top ten, this is the basis of war! After all, what Russia has been doing in recent months is intensified training of troops and political "chess", so if there is an opportunity to distract the enemy, you need to do it!
          1. 0
            2 July 2014 14: 07
            I agree completely. And then straight into the jaw and let them rest.
            1. European
              -1
              2 July 2014 14: 20
              Oh well! straight from the right, straight hook! oh funny. chatter and only. this Putin is already the whole top of the Kremlin substitutes.
              1. 0
                2 July 2014 14: 46
                Quote: European
                Oh well! straight from the right, straight hook! oh funny. chatter and only. this Putin is already the whole top of the Kremlin substitutes.

                Piss less than NATO.
                1. European
                  0
                  2 July 2014 14: 57
                  Well, no one will forbid me to have an opinion.
                  1. 0
                    2 July 2014 15: 17
                    Quote: European
                    Well, no one will forbid me to have an opinion


                    Note that only to have, but to express only anti-Putin, otherwise you will be included in the list of "subhuman". laughing
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        3. 0
          2 July 2014 13: 59
          And who said that we left Novorossia? It’s just that we don’t know everything about what’s going on, what kind of help is going on, and it’s not accepted to talk about it out loud. If the Russian Federation gets involved in an open war - what will be less killed? Outwardly ineffective efforts of diplomacy often very effectively solve global problems. Without blood and destruction. Now there is a war for the public opinion of Eugope and little by little the situation here is changing for the better for us. Without external support, the dill regime will not last long. He will be torn apart by the internal contradictions of the Maidanut and simply fascist dogs that seized power and the mass protest of the emerging population. Well, how much can you ride with bulging eyes?
          1. +4
            2 July 2014 14: 38
            Quote: Naum
            And who said that we left Novorossia? It’s just that we don’t know everything about what’s going on, what kind of help is going on, and it’s not accepted to talk about it out loud. If the Russian Federation gets involved in an open war - what will be less killed? Outwardly ineffective efforts of diplomacy often very effectively solve global problems. Without blood and destruction. Now there is a war for the public opinion of Eugope and little by little the situation here is changing for the better for us. Without external support, the dill regime will not last long. He will be torn apart by the internal contradictions of the Maidanut and simply fascist dogs that seized power and the mass protest of the emerging population. Well, how much can you ride with bulging eyes?

            And who said that not? You yourself write "we do not know everything"! Why a black and white picture of troops? Here you are, El-Murid, on this topic:
            In the DPR and LPR, in the "soup set" that exists, there are people and structures that meet the long-term interests of Russia. Strelkov in the first place - and he just does not have any political ambitions, which is all the more good for the authorities, which are very jealous of unsystematic political trends.

            Therefore, it is necessary to choose such structures and, to the detriment of everyone else who is pursuing a foreign policy, to begin massive assistance to them. People, finances, non-lethal equipment, intelligence.

            This is real help and real politics. This is not there. And this is not speculation - but quite objective knowledge.

            Therefore, such a position, which gave all the initiative into the wrong hands, is called an ostrich. No other way.

            For people like you, any (!) Information that does not coincide with the "virtual picture" in the head, created by the Russian mass media, causes rejection.
            1. +5
              2 July 2014 14: 41
              And on the topic:
              Any secret plans have their real projection. If this projection is absent, then all plans can remain secret for as long as they want, but in essence - they are not.

              You can evaluate either actions or inaction. Both that, and another can be clever, right or mediocre.

              In my opinion, the ostrich position of the Russian leadership today is quite clearly manifested. Opportunities have been missed and, most importantly, the situation has been led to a terrible dead end.
              1. Associate Professor
                -2
                2 July 2014 14: 46
                Who is this El-Murid? He also tirelessly said at one time that Russia merged Syria, that Russia does not help in any way. And now what? They all shut up and do not remember their words. I have no trust in all these people. They have one goal - to sow distrust of the Russian authorities, of Putin. In this regard, they work for the interests of the United States.
                1. Oleg amos
                  -2
                  2 July 2014 16: 38
                  At the beginning of the war, everyone reasoned: here Putin will send troops and show the junta, then there was a second of May and a referendum, but for one second of May it was enough to devil the Maidan and the Kiev whore to hell, but no, protests, notes ...
                  Tell me, if your close friend will be beaten, then you will run to the police?
                  You yourself understand that while you are writing a statement, while they are gathering, until ... in short, come already to the corpse, but if a friend survives, I’m afraid he won’t need such a friendship!
                  As president, Putin is good, as a person, Predator was right!
                  1. Associate Professor
                    +1
                    2 July 2014 17: 09
                    Quote: Oleg Amos
                    As president, Putin is good, as a person, Predator was right!

                    Well, yes, of course, Deshchitsa is right! Perhaps Deshchitsa is right, because Putin did not let the country fall apart,
                    eliminated the PSA, raised the standard of living of the population, strengthens the armed forces, Putin returned the Crimea to Russia. So is Deshchitsa right?
                    1. Oleg amos
                      -2
                      2 July 2014 17: 25
                      Because he chickened! He is also responsible for the shed blood
                      1. Associate Professor
                        0
                        2 July 2014 17: 29
                        Quote: Oleg Amos
                        Well, yes, we, if the west made Putin stop, it could make Crimea return

                        What to stop at?
                      2. Oleg amos
                        0
                        2 July 2014 17: 42
                        For example, foreign accounts, bureaucrats kids and problems with business in the west, not counting any interesting details!
                      3. Associate Professor
                        0
                        2 July 2014 17: 54
                        What did Putin stop at?
                      4. Associate Professor
                        +1
                        2 July 2014 17: 53
                        Quote: Oleg Amos
                        Because he chickened! He is also responsible for the shed blood

                        ah, is he also responsible for the blood? Well, it's too much. What scared?
              2. Oleg amos
                0
                2 July 2014 16: 05
                A sober comment, I wrote a month ago that Novorossia was thrown and if help is miserable, private. It is strange when I hear about a protracted war, at best September, the worst end of July, Novorossia will fall without waiting for military assistance, then the TV will be massively to justify the government, saying that we escaped the worst!
                I hope Putin will answer to God for failure to fulfill his obligations!
                1. Associate Professor
                  0
                  2 July 2014 16: 48
                  Quote: Oleg Amos
                  I hope Putin will answer to God for failure to fulfill his obligations!

                  Putin owes nothing to citizens of other countries.
                  1. Oleg amos
                    +1
                    2 July 2014 16: 57
                    Well, then you are probably one of those who cares, answer your words to a God who has no borders and citizenship, especially if you protect those who are reaching for us!
                    1. Associate Professor
                      +1
                      2 July 2014 17: 15
                      Quote: Oleg Amos
                      Well, then you are probably one of those who cares, answer your words to a God who has no borders and citizenship, especially if you protect those who are reaching for us!

                      Think better about yourself. Putin must think about his country and be responsible for it. Nicholas 2 sent troops to defend Serbia. As a result, Russia did not die and millions of victims in the First World War and the Civil War. Perhaps the Second World War could have been avoided with tens of millions more victims. A politician should not be guided by emotions. I am not saying that we should not help those who gravitate towards us. But whether or not to send troops is up to Putin. If she considers it necessary, then I will be only glad.
                      1. Oleg amos
                        -2
                        2 July 2014 17: 32
                        Whoever is going to fight against us now, the answer is simple: no one!
                        And the option from Serbia is hellish nonsense, the Germans were looking for a reason, if not for Serbia there would be another reason!
                      2. Associate Professor
                        +1
                        2 July 2014 17: 45
                        Quote: Oleg Amos
                        Whoever is going to fight against us now, the answer is simple: no one!

                        Do not worry who they throw against us. There were those who were fighting against Syria, Libya, etc., who fought against us in Afghanistan. Militants will be brought in, weapons will be given. In Ukraine, zombie cannon fodder is also enough.
                        Quote: Oleg Amos
                        And the option from Serbia is hellish nonsense, the Germans were looking for a reason, if not for Serbia there would be another reason!

                        Well, firstly, not the Germans were looking for an excuse, but the British wanted to pit Germany with Russia. and they succeeded. And now the same Anglo-Saxons are also trying to provoke Russia into the war. Remember all the provocations, starting with the shooting of snipers on March 18 in the Crimea at the same time at the Ukrainian military and local self-defense fighters.
                      3. Oleg amos
                        -2
                        2 July 2014 17: 50
                        What does the British have to do with it, they succeeded even before the assassination of Isif, since they so briskly declared war, once again hellish nonsense!
                      4. Associate Professor
                        0
                        2 July 2014 17: 56
                        Quote: Oleg Amos
                        What does the British have to do with it, they succeeded even before the assassination of Isis

                        What Isif?
                        The British were interested in this war on the continent, after which the empires, rivals of Aglia, collapsed. But what could be the interest of the Germans to fight with the whole world, I do not know
                  2. djtyysq
                    -1
                    2 July 2014 17: 07
                    Quote: Docent

                    Putin owes nothing to citizens of other countries.

                    AND RUSSIAN ALSO ???
                    1. Associate Professor
                      +1
                      2 July 2014 17: 31
                      Quote: djtyysq
                      Quote: Docent

                      Putin owes nothing to citizens of other countries.

                      AND RUSSIAN ALSO ???

                      I wrote that Russia does not owe anything to citizens of other countries. Don't you understand the meaning of the term "citizens of another country"?
            2. +3
              2 July 2014 14: 43
              And more:
              Russia may be skeptical about what is happening in Donetsk and Lugansk, but it can really prevent chaos on its borders in only two ways - help Poroshenko quickly eliminate the "separatists" and establish any - even Nazi - order there, or choose their existing conglomerate of military units and local politicians, those who will be the conduit of its policies and begin massive assistance to them.

              Other methods, to one degree or another, only cover up unwillingness or inability to pursue their policies. Nothing else can be said.
          2. 0
            2 July 2014 20: 16
            Well, let's hope for the outcome that Russia and all people need, let all the fascist nonhumans die ...
          3. 0
            2 July 2014 20: 16
            Well, let's hope for the outcome that Russia and all people need, let all the fascist nonhumans die ...
        4. European
          +4
          2 July 2014 14: 19
          when I raised this topic, they threw me with minuses. But it’s true. In Russia, only patriots are from high stands. In fact, it’s zilch!
          1. 0
            2 July 2014 15: 20
            Quote: European
            when I raised this topic, they showered me with minuses


            Every day is not Sunday. laughing
          2. djtyysq
            0
            2 July 2014 17: 12
            Have your opinion, but do not pay attention to the minuses, you will not please everyone.
          3. +1
            2 July 2014 21: 58
            Quote: European
            when I raised this topic, they threw me with minuses. But it’s true. In Russia, only patriots are from high stands. In fact, it’s zilch!


            +

            People often began to take a position in which they accuse others of what they do themselves.

            You are not objective in one thing - Russia has many true patriots of its homeland.
        5. +3
          2 July 2014 14: 23
          Quote: Letun
          Vladimir Vladimirovich, I understand everything, politics there, sanctions, other reasons not visible to the average person. But why, then, was it necessary to shout so impassively to the whole world that the Russians were not abandoning their own?

          So that fools believe, rating, the love of the people, which can be used against the elites, in general, politics ...
        6. djtyysq
          0
          2 July 2014 17: 16
          I put + ,, It’s bad when the words diverge from the deed!
      3. +1
        2 July 2014 13: 44
        Putin, yes Putin! Enough! For this purpose there is a government of the Russian Federation!
        1. Old Cynic
          +7
          2 July 2014 14: 29
          Putin, yes Putin! Enough! For this purpose there is a government of the Russian Federation!

          All you have to do is give the Government of Russia - so instead of real help, iPhones, Arbidol, proposals for reforming the time zone, the idea of ​​forming a Skolkovo branch on the basis of Koncha-Zaspa .. and so on and so forth, etc. will go headlong.
      4. European
        +3
        2 July 2014 14: 17
        Well, this is Israel, and this is Russia. Jews finally can’t play spools with anyone. And they’re doing it right.
        1. +1
          2 July 2014 15: 22
          Quote: European
          Well, this is Israel, and this is Russia. Jews finally can’t play spools with anyone. And they’re doing it right.


          Rejoice that Russia is not Israel, although you are yelling that it is an aggressor, otherwise you would feed the worms long ago. laughing
      5. +1
        2 July 2014 14: 44
        According to RIA “Novosti”, a Russian citizen died in the shelling of Slavyansk and came to Ukraine from St. Petersburg.
        "During the shelling of artillery, the woman could not descend into the bomb shelter and died on the spot," said a spokesman for the militia, adding that the victim had an apartment in Slavyansk.


        It’s just not clear why, in this situation, a resident of St. Petersburg had to go to Slavyansk to check her property? Is it really more important than your own life.
      6. -1
        2 July 2014 16: 48
        Quote: MIKHAN
        It’s not regrettable to write, but the deaths of Russian citizens in Ukraine and in the border zone are already becoming commonplace .. And Putin is silent ... (Israel won the air strikes on the gas sector and silence again today for the killed teenagers) damn it.

        Yes, what a trifle, let's fuck with tactical missiles at all the objects that we get! And we will FOREVER forget about peace, cooperation, sales of our goods to other countries, trips outside Russia, imported goods, the CIS, the Eurasian Union, etc. e. The "iron curtain" immediately falls from the side of both opponents and neutrals and part of the allies and WE ARE ETERNAL OUTGOES !!!
        1. djtyysq
          0
          2 July 2014 17: 22
          So you live according to the commandments of the Bible, substituting both cheeks for a blow. But not everyone accepts this!
          1. 0
            2 July 2014 18: 53
            So you live according to the commandments of the Bible, substituting both cheeks for a blow. But not everyone accepts this!


            A friend of mine told me this story. Once his girlfriend got offended at him, deciding that he periodically runs "to the left". When they were sorting out the relationship, she said: "Here you guys are all like that. As you see a skirt, ready to run after her at breakneck speed." He began to argue with her. In general, it all ended with the fact that they bet on a box of champagne that she would seduce him, and he should resist for 2 weeks. During these 2 weeks, she provoked him in every possible way, but he was adamant. When the term of the dispute came to an end, she came to him, closed the door with all possible locks, undressed, and began to do in front of him such things that should definitely excite him. He tried to run away from her, but she said: "To hell with the argument. I'm excited, I can't take it anymore." Then they had sex. Already in the morning she told him: "Well, you have a box of champagne." When he tried to recall what she had said the day before, she said, “I don't know anything. You have to be more cunning.

            You have to be a little more careful, a little trickier, quietly discuss, understand, weigh and then make decisions
          2. 0
            2 July 2014 19: 35
            Quote: djtyysq
            So you live according to the commandments of the Bible, substituting both cheeks for a blow. But not everyone accepts this!

            Let's "dance from the stove." Firstly, not "you" but "you" (we are not relatives and did not sit at the same table. Secondly, not "cheeks" but "cheeks" (you need to know and respect your native language). Thirdly, the answer must be adequate and take into account the consequences ( for 140 million) !!!
    2. +5
      2 July 2014 13: 13
      But there’s no peace

      I think it will not be soon. It is time to transfer military operations both to Kiev and to the west. At least to begin sabotage activities. So that life would not seem like honey to zapadents!
    3. portoc65
      +17
      2 July 2014 13: 14
      This is called squeezing the Russian-speaking population into the territory of Russia .. In other words, genocide .. They want to make the state only for Ukrainians, ordinary fascism.
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      2. +7
        2 July 2014 13: 29
        They want to make the state only for Ukrainians, ordinary fascism.

        Not ordinary, but Ukrainian fascism. In the Patriotic War, according to eyewitnesses, ukrofashists for atrocities with respect to the civilian population surpassed the Germans so that there were cases when the Wehrmacht soldiers themselves warned people about the approach of Bandera.
    4. +8
      2 July 2014 13: 22
      Hmm ... The agony of the STATE is always accompanied by blood ... It is not sad ... There will be MUCH more blood !!!
    5. +4
      2 July 2014 13: 54
      Guys, well, do not minus the info! Their authors simply state the facts and all. No calls or comments. Just the facts - we also need them.
    6. -19
      2 July 2014 13: 57
      Militias go with a white flag to the Ukrainian security forces !!!!!!!!
      1. +7
        2 July 2014 14: 07
        Militias go with a white flag to the Ukrainian security forces !!!!!!!!


        It will be correct "Three men in camouflage perform actions that look like surrender to three other men in camouflage." If these are all the same militias, then Strelkov will not lose anything from minus three black sheep. What kind of alarmist are you%; p?

        PS: judging by the comments and publications of this aspirin02, he is a pro-Ukrainian propagandist. Maybe not prohuntovsky, but it raises questions.
      2. European
        +11
        2 July 2014 14: 28
        right in the open field 3 siloviks and 3 separatists! perfectly lost the performance! director probably Avakov?
      3. +5
        2 July 2014 14: 41
        An interesting short film, just did not understand where the militias are here fool
        1. European
          +1
          2 July 2014 14: 48
          yes, militia on both sides. The order for the short film was made to Avakov. Well, an order, for a fee. But you also need to buy cartridges for money.
      4. +3
        2 July 2014 15: 07
        It looks like a production, the surrenders are not visible and removed so that they can’t be identified, but I think the real militias would have been removed both in front and profile .....
      5. +4
        2 July 2014 15: 25
        Quote: aspirin02
        Militias go with a white flag to the Ukrainian security forces !!!!!!!!


        A good performance, for more, did ukrorezhisery not have enough brains? wink laughing
        1. 0
          2 July 2014 15: 30
          Quote: Victor-M
          A good performance, for more, did ukrorezhisery not have enough brains?

          Alas, not a performance. Indeed, three surrendered. To which dill announced mass surrender, which does not stop ...
      6. S_W_A_T_72
        +2
        2 July 2014 16: 58
        The script is crap. Yes, and the actors do not play professionally. Full crap ......
    7. +1
      2 July 2014 13: 58
      Roman, Slavyansk militia (s11): If we don’t defend ourselves, cut us out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmfyCAJaGXc
    8. +3
      2 July 2014 14: 01
      It may not be long left to endure.
      Vesti.ru
      Marine Le Pen, who won elections in France, also promised a revolution. Its "National Front" is preparing to create a powerful group in parliament to fight against what is contraindicated in France and Europe - a trade agreement with the United States, open borders for migrants and the main project "Ukraine" today. The European Union, which was once so actively involved in it and invested, is not responsible for the consequences.
      “I want to believe that the European Union and the heads of the countries that make up it are aware that they have a heavy responsibility, so they don’t want to talk about it. They don’t want to admit that they blindly helped the extremist forces that are responsible for the ongoing civil war, from which hundreds of people die with complete indifference of other countries, which usually like to talk about human rights. And now there is only silence, which covers these corpses right at the doors of the European Union, "said Marine Le Pen.
      New deputies will start talking and asking about Ukraine almost immediately - the deputies from Latvia initiated hearings this week in Strasbourg. Europe, which has not been shown anything about Ukraine for three weeks (they don’t send Western journalists to the southeast) will be told about Slavyansk and Odessa, and on July 9 witnesses of the tragedy at the Trade Unions House were invited to Brussels.
      MEP, Chairman of the European Russian Alliance Tatiana Zhdanok said: “We have invited people, we have invited witnesses. The mother of a young guy who died in Odessa, a programmer, will come. She herself is an assistant professor at the university. Several more people will come. I am sure that my colleagues will listen to their voice ".


      Although the change in the alignment of forces among the partners does not remove responsibility from ours for the absence of at least a clear position.
    9. +1
      2 July 2014 14: 04
      And will not be. The Nazis will not let them live their own way, Southeast for them Money and people from western Ukraine will come.
  2. +3
    2 July 2014 13: 10
    It is time to present the junta, then the shells enter our territory, but they kill our citizens.
    1. +7
      2 July 2014 13: 13
      It's time, but ... there are many obscure but
      1. +2
        2 July 2014 13: 27
        Quote: Coffee_time
        It's time, but ... there are many obscure but


        But what is incomprehensible. Notice. Oland hurried to announce that it was possible to reach an agreement to extend the truce. And Porosenko took and planted a pig ....

        If before presenting a political background I didn’t allow throwing, now it’s getting closer and closer to this ....

        If the State Department blundered about the grandparents visited in the Luhansk region, this is direct confirmation that this is a family business in Russia. Already the junta began to shoot arrows at each other ...
        1. 0
          2 July 2014 13: 31
          Quote: vorobey
          If before presenting a political background I didn’t allow throwing, now it’s getting closer and closer to this ....

          Hi Sanya! Listen, you know better there, MIKHAN wrote yesterday that our tanks have been pulling for a dig for three days, is there such a thing?
          1. +2
            2 July 2014 13: 48
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: vorobey
            If before presenting a political background I didn’t allow throwing, now it’s getting closer and closer to this ....

            Hi Sanya! Listen, you know better there, MIKHAN wrote yesterday that our tanks have been pulling for a dig for three days, is there such a thing?


            Hi Sanya. There is a planned arrangement and strengthening of the border. Perekop is not a place for tanks ..... I'm already at home ...
            1. +1
              2 July 2014 14: 01
              Quote: vorobey
              Perekop is not a place for tanks ..... I'm already at home ...

              I hung the USSR flag and you won’t understand where Agent Sparrow is now sad
              1. +1
                2 July 2014 14: 08
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Quote: vorobey
                Perekop is not a place for tanks ..... I'm already at home ...

                I hung the USSR flag and you won’t understand where Agent Sparrow is now sad


                and you noticed that nowhere does it shine ... wassat
                1. +1
                  2 July 2014 14: 40
                  Quote: vorobey
                  and you noticed that nowhere does it shine ...

                  So for this I write laughing
          2. 0
            2 July 2014 13: 57
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            MIKHAN wrote yesterday that our tanks are pulling for a dig for three days, is there such a thing?

            Alexander, I didn’t write about this ... belay
            1. 0
              2 July 2014 13: 57
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Alexander, I didn’t write about this ...

              And from LJ yesterday who laid out?
              Damn, your comments looked like it’s not you. Forgive me, someone posted it here yesterday, but not you feel
              1. 0
                2 July 2014 14: 05
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Damn, I looked at your comments, as if you weren’t

                It happens.. wink
                1. djtyysq
                  0
                  2 July 2014 17: 38
                  Quote: MIKHAN
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Damn, I looked at your comments, as if you weren’t

                  It happens.. wink

                  GOOD FELLOWS !!! So you need to understand, and not to vilify each other!
    2. pg4
      0
      2 July 2014 13: 22
      It is enough to remove the geek of Kalomoisky.
  3. 0
    2 July 2014 13: 17
    Methodically destroy cities and the population ...
    As a result of the massive artillery shelling of Kramatorsk, which the Nazis conducted last night, in the city, according to preliminary data, about 100 residential buildings burned down.
  4. +6
    2 July 2014 13: 17
    But is it not time for the kings acting and in no way destitute to give an answer to their peoples, how many more should be killed and where. So far, those who are supposed to make decisions will not be honored with attention to their people! To look at the helpless king is the destiny of the helpless people!
  5. +12
    2 July 2014 13: 19
    28 airstrikes on those who ... allegedly ... captured 3 Israeli youths and killed them .... It's scary to think ... young guys from 16 to 19 years old ... No one in the world has condemned these flights .. And as a rule, after these retaliatory measures, terrorists do not encroach on the peaceful and defenseless for a long time ...
    Of the public Russians, only 3 journalists were intentionally killed by banderlogs ... today a Russian woman ... and how many more ... unknown to the general public ... Eternal memory to them ...
    RUSSIA in response - a note of protest !!!! Which roughly means ... "Shame on you! Fu ... what you are not good!" ... After each ... "Aren't you ashamed!" it has already become a rule to wait for new victims! For goblins - Banderlog respect only strength ... appeals to their conscience and the threat to nail them to a pillory ... deeply "Violet" !!!
    Moscow is silent ... one can see another note of protest ...
    1. +2
      2 July 2014 14: 27
      Fiercely plus. I wrote and will write that Russia needs the units of the Avengers, as in the Mossad. Russophobic bloggers cut the brakes in cars, Russophobic politicians have protection - they can infect their relatives with AIDS or face acid, do not chase a terrorist for five years in the mountains (with all due respect for the hard work of anti-terrorists), but immediately the whole village is against the wall. Kala and Parashu, Sarah with a scythe connected in camera to Pichushkin. Not because they want revenge, but because they don’t understand it differently, you just have to do so% once and for all; @ t, so that fear is transmitted to grandchildren with DNA, and if the neighbors and their public do not understand, then do not care about the opinion of fools.
    2. 0
      2 July 2014 15: 01
      It's good to throw tantrums, two journalists died from mortar fire, the place was shot by ukrami it's a fact, anybody will do this in the war, they noticed a movement, they hit it, a mine is not a sniper's bullet, it flies into a square "+" "-" a few meters, the operator died from shelling of the bus, you saw a report about this, in the bus of women-mothers there was a man to drink as much as possible, we were going to "rescue" the sons of conscripts from the military unit, late in the evening it was already dark according to the report (in the conditions of the civil war it was just a crazy act), near the unit they were just sent hitting the top, but after they drove off and got up for a smoke break, they were fired upon, who shot at the bus, xs, no one shot at the operator at point-blank range, our people, too, you know, ring and force, if I personally, in 1996. during the CTO in the TFR, I did not see how this is done when a "committee of soldiers rushes into the field camp" (bl ... we called them, excuse me, who will outrage, because there were no parents of soldiers from our unit) mothers "about five hysterical women and fifteen incomprehensible people with cameras and they rush not to poor soldiers, but to the park or headquarters, of course we did not beat them and did not shoot (oh, how we wanted) and what happened to them on the way to the light ...
      Of course, I feel sorry for people, condolences to relatives and friends. And in general, war is p ... ets how shitty and moreover to everyone, except for politicians and the rich, they will be in "+" anyway ...
      Therefore, I want to see under arms, in the forefront of those alarmists and Internet bonaparts, well-worn tacticians and strategists and other dartanyans, n..t do not turn sacks, for a couple of months in the fields as "partisans", you will become silk ...
  6. MSA
    MSA
    +6
    2 July 2014 13: 20
    It's a pity, of course, the people, but everything has its time. We now need a victory not over the Kiev junta - it is too simple, now we need to put the Americans in place.
  7. +5
    2 July 2014 13: 21
    Listen ... if one of the Puppeteers resolved a military conflict, he should be ... and it doesn’t matter what our Leader wants ... no one will ask him .. just a couple of cities will be discharged in our villages ... they’ll say that they themselves, militias, aliens ..
  8. waisson
    +9
    2 July 2014 13: 22
    ------------------- recourse Sorry for the woman why went there ....
    1. Bombardier
      +1
      2 July 2014 13: 28
      Rather, she couldn’t leave, she had an apartment there.
    2. 0
      2 July 2014 13: 49
      Very sorry!!! Condolences to family and friends!
  9. +5
    2 July 2014 13: 30
    Moscow Basmanny Court arrests head of Dnipropetrovsk Regional State Administration Igor Kolomoysky in absentia

    He also declared in absentia a victory over the Kiev junta and liberated the Donbass in absentia. And then a banquet.
  10. +3
    2 July 2014 13: 34
    It is bad at heart from the state of one's own helplessness ... both mournfully and insultingly for the State! Bright memory!
    1. Associate Professor
      -2
      2 July 2014 14: 07
      Quote: gladysheff2010
      It is bad at heart from the state of one's own helplessness ... both mournfully and insultingly for the State! Bright memory!

      Mournfully? Is it a shame? Machine to help you and go to Ukraine!
      1. +3
        2 July 2014 14: 29
        Quote: Docent
        Quote: gladysheff2010
        It is bad at heart from the state of one's own helplessness ... both mournfully and insultingly for the State! Bright memory!

        Mournfully? Is it a shame? Machine to help you and go to Ukraine!

        Write from the trench ?!
        1. Associate Professor
          -1
          2 July 2014 17: 27
          Quote: Orik
          Write from the trench ?!

          No. And you?
          1. 0
            2 July 2014 19: 26
            Quote: Docent
            Quote: Orik
            Write from the trench ?!

            No. And you?

            But I do not teach others where and with what they should go!
            1. Associate Professor
              -1
              2 July 2014 19: 54
              Quote: Orik
              But I do not teach others where and with what they should go!

              well done, then what?
              1. -1
                2 July 2014 21: 23
                Quote: Docent
                Quote: Orik
                But I do not teach others where and with what they should go!

                well done, then what?

                Farther? Nothing, yap and that’s all.
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  11. +2
    2 July 2014 13: 36
    Quote: MIKHAN
    It’s not regrettable to write, but the deaths of Russian citizens in Ukraine and in the border zone are already becoming commonplace .. And Putin is silent ... (Israel won the air strikes on the gas sector and silence again today for the killed teenagers) damn it.

    totally agree with you. and the Americans would answer. his silence is not clear. unclear! maybe it's time to remind everyone what the homeland begins with !?
  12. +2
    2 July 2014 13: 36
    "In addition, the Ukrainian security forces carried out a massive shelling
    Kramatorsk, destroying dozens of residential buildings. "
    Well, it's just annoying when these knackers in the media are called "Ukrainian
    law enforcers. ”Punishers - they are punishers.
  13. Dbnfkmtdbx
    -1
    2 July 2014 13: 38
    I’m reading the news. Kalomoisky’s lawyers will appeal the court’s decision on the early arrest of Kolomoisky, no, you saw send the President of Russia and there’s still enough audacity to appeal, he would be glad that he was still breathing angry
  14. +4
    2 July 2014 13: 39
    Yesterday in Kramatorsk for the first time used the main caliber MLRS.

    They shot a package with 9Н235 containers (Tornadoes or Hurricanes - there isn’t such a thing for hail). For victims from 7 to 15x200 depending on the source (Kotych seems to have written the last 15). But while they beat accurately, one can clearly feel what kind of reaction will be. They also probed with mortars, guns and Grads at first, and then, seeing the notes and statements in response, now they are working the way they should, without fear.
    1. +4
      2 July 2014 13: 40
      The container itself.
  15. +11
    2 July 2014 13: 44
    I’m looking at what’s going on in New Russia, I’m listening to the opinion of the introduction of troops, not of the introduction.
    But how can we stop the junta if we do not demonstrate strength in reality, and not with a couple of trucks drove along the border. It seems to me that even one airstrike on a cluster of dill or shoot down one plane over Luhansk or Donetsk will force them to establish a real truce. And then, let the politicians work. For today all our political support is not valid yet. Anyway, any policy, without force support, does not play any role. Parashka, under the wing of amers and everything he does, Psaki will dump on the Russian "mercenaries" and Russia itself. And the people in the west, for the most part, will swallow all this, with a bang. We, the more we write petitions, the more people will die.
  16. airborne forces
    +3
    2 July 2014 13: 44
    Pin ... we would have bombed Kiev, And we ...
    1. 77bob1973
      +2
      2 July 2014 14: 01
      We are not, and this is the main difference, what Americans can afford will never forgive us!
    2. Associate Professor
      +2
      2 July 2014 14: 06
      Quote: Airborne
      Pin ... we would have bombed Kiev, And we ...

      Why do you propose to follow the path that the very Americans really want to take us on? The Russians will wet the Russians, and your pin ... sy joyfully rub your hands
  17. +1
    2 July 2014 13: 53
    what to write when there is no word, let the noble rage boil like a wave ...
  18. +5
    2 July 2014 14: 01
    I don’t understand one thing. And where are the indignant voices of residents of neighboring regions? What straight mouth closed to all? Okay, dill your own ukroposmi, but everyone has relatives, friends, etc., they don’t say what’s going on there? Sheer indifference ??? Is my hut on the edge? Complete country zombies? Or is it necessary that tomorrow the shells and land mines of the National Guard fall on their homes? More than 40 million inhabitants and ..... not what? Well then, in orderly rows in a madhouse.
    1. +7
      2 July 2014 14: 07
      There, technically, while there was a rush, that is, the DPR and LPR were not ironed, the neighbors in the person of Kharkov and Odessa rebelled quite seriously. But the protest was skillfully drained, and the organizers really weren’t. In Kharkov, Gepa promised everything and did the opposite for tomorrow, after tomorrow he skated, generally led a competent game - as a result, from the 15-20k people were knocked down to 500-1000 for the weekend.

      In Odessa, in general, the 3-4 anti-government Maidan went parallel and everyone was in conflict with each other, then they overcame and gathered a common one, but it was too late. And also, the organizers were not sensible, and those that were, those for themselves bargained for using the people.


      Well, and how they began to bomb the DPR and LPR - the protest is a halt to 50 people maximum. For no one wants his house to be torn apart by artillery / aircraft. Moreover, Russia clearly does not support it, and we don’t really want to overcome it ourselves. Why die, lose loved ones and real estate, if you can just sit on the couch. Like a bad world.
      1. +2
        2 July 2014 14: 16
        Quote: donavi49
        Well, how did they begin to bomb the DPR and LPR - then the protest died down to 50 people maximum. For no one wants his house to be torn apart by artillery / aircraft.

        It seems to me, if you push from the outside, then the protest will rise again. And so, of course, nothing will happen ...
        1. +3
          2 July 2014 14: 47
          Only if the Polite in the city appear in Simferopol.
          1. 0
            2 July 2014 15: 37
            Quote: donavi49
            Only if the Polite in the city appear in Simferopol.

            Well yes, something like that. Yes, and not necessarily, already polite ... smile
  19. +3
    2 July 2014 14: 04
    Here's a simple question - if Smerch is working in Ukraine, while official Kiev says that it does not use these systems, that they simply are not there, and we need to destroy it with a guided missile, what claims could there be? Or am I something I don’t understand, the option is fundamentally impossible - if this container is also lying in the courtyard of a residential building on Russian territory, and in response arrives at the launching site of the UR and blows everything there? What stops?
    1. 0
      2 July 2014 14: 10
      Start lock
      1. 0
        2 July 2014 15: 17
        Fixed and ..?
  20. evilrussian
    +3
    2 July 2014 14: 05
    Well, where are these human rights defenders? And nowhere, they are sitting at the direction and do nothing. All human rights organizations are corrupt political levers.
  21. +1
    2 July 2014 14: 10
    Quote: Letun
    Vladimir Vladimirovich, I understand everything, politics there, sanctions, other reasons not visible to the average person. But why, then, was it necessary to shout so impassively to the whole world that the Russians were not abandoning their own?

    And he really screamed, or his fans themselves thought for him.
  22. +2
    2 July 2014 14: 14
    Quote: evilrussian
    Well, where are these human rights defenders?
    As where? Recently gathered in Moscow, they said that Putin was to blame. If he had not taken the Crimea, then there would have been nothing. A square, in a single impulse would have jumped into the geyropu ...
    One thing is good that they at the bunch, some kind of fetid gas was let ...
  23. +4
    2 July 2014 14: 14
    It was immediately clear, not only to us, but also to the special services, and in the General Staff, and to Putin, and to the government, that there would be no truce. There will be a respite for the Nazis, the reorganization and redeployment of enemy military units. At the same time, active military training and consultation of Western instructors. They have financial, unlimited (for now) means, equipment, weapons and ammunition, there are masses of possessed thugs, organized by the high command. Against them - the PEOPLE motley army, unorganized, devoid of centralized control, military specialists (they are sorely lacking). Shooters and their associates are an exception. In Donetsk, civil strife, pride, power struggles, ambitions, passion and everything that can be imagined in a spontaneously knocked down group. Here, here on the forum, there is often a heated skirmish, but imagine what is going on there. It’s scary to think: if it wouldn’t have been Strelkov and his comrades, what a “walk-field” it would have been! And, even against such an almost helpless army, the Nazis do not really fight, and all their military power is aimed at peaceful and residential objects. The task is not to defeat the militia, but to clear out the territory long sold to American oil companies - they have been written and talked about before. And the mopping-up will be to the last resident of Donbass. And our gamers will be liberal at a high diplomatic level and we will listen to a lot of Putin's incendiary speeches, hoping for his very hidden wisdom.
  24. zzz
    zzz
    +3
    2 July 2014 14: 26
    This German, Margarita Zaydler, sent her story today directly from there, from Slavyansk. In the ranks of our information Troops of Truth has arrived. Now information about what will happen will come in German.
    “I am in Slavyansk, in the headquarters of Igor Strelkov, the Minister of Defense of the DPR. Glory to God, took me to the number of militias. She thought about her deed well, and simply could not sit more calmly and watch how the Ukrainian fascists would destroy the civilian population of Donbass only because people do not want to live under the fascist yoke!

    My friends tried to dissuade, but my soul felt - no, I didn’t have to give in, I had to go and help, not sparing myself.

    Moreover, the respected Orthodox elder blessed me. I come from Germany - from a country that itself was under the fascist yoke and itself suffered from it, and caused other nations such great sorrow! http://jvatnews.ru/novosti/nemka-priehala/
    1. Oleg amos
      -1
      2 July 2014 16: 29
      The overwhelming majority of those who spit at all or those who are not interested in the victory of New Russia are against the troop deployment
  25. Solovyov
    0
    2 July 2014 14: 51
    ITAR-TASS reports that as a result of a massive shelling of Kramatorsk from 5:00 Moscow time to 6:30 Moscow time, more than 100 residential buildings were burned in three different areas of the city. The shelling was carried out by heavy artillery, including multiple launch rocket systems.

    ITAR-TASS does not report the victims, however, sources in the militia say the death toll over the past day is several dozen people, all of whom are civilians.

    http://el-murid.livejournal.com/1902209.html

    A protest note has already been sent or not yet? (C)
  26. 0
    2 July 2014 14: 57
    Do you need to introduce troops ??
    1. Oleg amos
      -1
      2 July 2014 16: 30
      It is necessary to conduct a lightning attack on Ukrainians
    2. Associate Professor
      -1
      2 July 2014 17: 22
      Quote: Dave36
      Do you need to introduce troops ??

      No, you need to send this hero with a gun there
  27. +3
    2 July 2014 18: 28
    The Nazis are getting wild - it looks like the agony before death.
  28. kelevra
    0
    2 July 2014 19: 40
    This is not a reason to introduce peacekeepers to protect our citizens! There are a lot of Russian citizens on vacation now!
  29. Solovyov
    0
    4 July 2014 12: 44
    Quote: Solovyov
    ITAR-TASS reports that as a result of a massive shelling of Kramatorsk from 5:00 Moscow time to 6:30 Moscow time, more than 100 residential buildings were burned in three different areas of the city. The shelling was carried out by heavy artillery, including multiple launch rocket systems.

    ITAR-TASS does not report the victims, however, sources in the militia say the death toll over the past day is several dozen people, all of whom are civilians.

    http://el-murid.livejournal.com/1902209.html


    A protest note has already been sent or not yet? (C)


    About five minutes ago
    Fortunately, the information about a thousand dead turned out to be a lie. I saw her on the road and saw her on a resource that I trusted and continue to trust. Therefore, there was no opportunity to somehow clarify "on the fly". However, the primary source was another resource, which so often drives all sorts of vigorous bullshit that there is no desire to look for the truth there.

    In general, on the one hand I have to apologize. On the other, it’s good that it was not true. Pavel Astakhov called the number of civilian casualties yesterday exactly 50 times less - 20 dead, including two children. These are also people and also lives. Now 20 killed - this is quite the norm. Ordinary.

    http://el-murid.livejournal.com/1905330.html