Ukrainian security forces use mines with arrow-shaped striking elements.

61
There was information that during the attacks, the Ukrainian security forces use mines, which are stuffed with metal darts, capable of penetrating even the strongest armor. They are used to eliminate the enemy's manpower. Video with striking elements appeared on the Internet after another shelling of civilians in the east of Ukraine, reports Lifenews.

Ukrainian security forces use mines with arrow-shaped striking elements.


“Due to ready-made destructive elements, much more fragments appear - more than a thousand. American warheads are stuffed with even more destructive elements, they mow down everything in their path, ”said military expert Boris Yulin.

Even during the flight of such a mine, its front part is separated, inside which a special charge is triggered, ejecting a canister at high speed. The radius of dispersion of steel darts reaches 300 meters.

According to military expert Vladislav Shurygin, such elements inflict fatal wounds. "The victim may die from blood loss," he added.

Many talk about the similarity in the form of striking elements with the filling of the M546 "Apers-T" American mines that the US used during the Vietnam War, notes Lifenews.

According to the military expert, retired colonel Mikhail Timoshenko, these are cluster munitions filled with “needle-like striking elements, so-called“ arrows ”.

“For the first time, cluster munitions were massively used by Americans in the Vietnam War. They reasoned that the power of the enemy is more undermined, if not to kill its fighters, but to injure and maim, ”Tymoshenko said.

“Inside the charge, which explodes and scatters striking elements. The initial speed of such elements is about 2 km / s. But their radius of serious damage is about 20-30 meters, ”he added.
61 comment
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. +8
    20 June 2014 10: 55
    Well, after shelling the churches, I won’t be surprised at anything.
    1. +4
      20 June 2014 10: 56
      Here. They also talk about stabilization and ceasefire. I am ashamed. Although dill has no conscience. They know that mattress covers with a heroa cover them.
      1. +6
        20 June 2014 10: 58
        Well, tell me, is it not nits, do this
        1. +3
          20 June 2014 11: 38
          These are not nits, these are war criminals who must be tried for crimes against humanity. We hope that day will come and the criminals will appear before the tribunal.
        2. The comment was deleted.
        3. +5
          20 June 2014 12: 16
          Quote: herruvim
          Well, tell me, aren't these nits

          Well, as far as I know, in our NURSs that are let out of planes there are also damaging elements in the form of needles. Therefore, there is nothing surprising here. Another question is against whom it is used, if against ordinary citizens, then of course a crime, but here with the militias the war is a war.
      2. +1
        20 June 2014 11: 05
        One question, how long are they covering?
      3. bif
        +3
        20 June 2014 12: 43
        Quote: REDBLUE
        They know that mattress covers with a heroa cover them.

        Now, if one such mine blows somewhere where the thread is in sight of Parashenko-Kalamoy or even better than their overseas owners .. immediately the brains will be thought differently.

        A bullet changes a lot in the head, even if it hits your ass. © Al Capone
    2. 0
      20 June 2014 11: 01
      In short, we have nothing to lose, we need to bring down all the scumbags. The price is adequate. Otherwise, we lose more.
    3. +1
      20 June 2014 11: 07
      Inexplicably warms the soul as if in the near future the Kiev junta inevitably expects a quality NYL-MYASH!
    4. 0
      20 June 2014 12: 01
      Ukrainian security forces use mines with arrow-shaped striking elements.


      Some kind of sinister ingenuity
    5. 0
      20 June 2014 13: 16
      these arrow-shaped striking elements - shrapnel are called, and go to the ammunition, which are intended to destroy manpower!
      1. 0
        20 June 2014 15: 47
        Quote: SpnSr
        these swept damaging elements - shrapnel are called, ...

        to be precise, the "flachette" is called. At one time it was supposed to fill them with iron pentacarbonyl.
  2. +3
    20 June 2014 10: 57
    It seems that if dill had nuclear weapons, then they would have used it without hesitation. It seems that they have already used all the weapons that they have on the southeast.
    1. 0
      20 June 2014 11: 00
      Why didn’t we deal with banderlogs after 1945, we’ll figure it out now
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. +1
        20 June 2014 11: 06
        Quote: herruvim
        dealt with banderlog after 1945, we’ll figure it out now
      3. WKS
        0
        20 June 2014 11: 06
        Yesterday I read that Gubarev appointed one lemon green for the capture of Kolomoisky, and for some unconventional Lyashka 0,5. He added that Kolomoisky would resell more expensively for trial in Israel, and Luzhka would be given to the people of Donbas for an honorable quartering.
        1. s1н7т
          0
          20 June 2014 19: 03
          He also seemed to recall the powder - like, in a bag with a red bow, he would send to the Kremlin laughing
    2. +1
      20 June 2014 11: 01
      Quote: volot-voin
      if dill had nuclear weapons, then they would have used it without hesitation.


      They use only what their owners allow. While the dog is still on the chain.
      1. Matroskin 18
        +1
        20 June 2014 11: 40
        They use only what their owners allow. While the dog is still on the chain.

        The nuclear weapons may not have been allowed (contamination of the area is unprofitable for them, they plan to produce shale gas there), and if they had neutron, they would definitely be used. I hate critters!
      2. Matroskin 18
        +1
        20 June 2014 11: 41
        They use only what their owners allow. While the dog is still on the chain.

        Nuclear weapons may not have been allowed (contamination of the area is unprofitable for them, they plan to produce shale gas there), if they had neutron, they would definitely be used. I hate critters!
      3. 0
        20 June 2014 14: 44
        Quote: Vadivak
        While the dog is still on the chain

        The dog has long been unchained, and is already vomiting people.
    3. WKS
      0
      20 June 2014 11: 04
      Quote: volot-voin
      It seems that if dill had nuclear weapons, then they would have used it without hesitation. It seems that they have already used all the weapons that they have on the southeast.

      So the Lady with the scythe suggested it ...
  3. +10
    20 June 2014 10: 58
    S-8C NURSs are equipped with arrow-shaped striking elements, mortar mines are not equipped with such striking elements.
    1. +5
      20 June 2014 11: 05
      Quote: Nayhas
      S-8С NURSs are equipped with arrow-shaped striking elements

      Since the militia of the NURSs is not in service, If there is no aviation, then it is impossible to accuse them of providing false information. But there will be attempts - they fired on themselves (tm).
    2. +6
      20 June 2014 11: 07
      D-30, howitzer shell 120mm. 3Sh-1 - 3000t of striking elements with a remote fuse, it rarely kills, a person sits like a living person, cannot move. Well, and this needle rusts right before our eyes.
    3. Alex 241
      +7
      20 June 2014 11: 13
      Quote: Nayhas
      NURSY S-8S

      Ammunition 12 caliber, shell for howitzer D-30,3sh1.
      1. strike777
        +3
        20 June 2014 11: 29
        122 mm projectile "shrapnel" with a fuse "tube" of these darts in a tape of about 2000, explodes at a height, 1 such dart breaks through the scrap, a bulletproof vest will not save, a terrible force
      2. +1
        20 June 2014 13: 56
        Quote: Alex 241
        shell for howitzer D-30,3ш1.

        Exactly, Sanya.
        Ordinary "ready-made submunitions".

        3W1 - 122-mm projectile with ready-made slaughter elements, included in the ammunition load of 122-mm howitzers (D-30, 2С1, М30) - 7tys. GGE
        3W2 - 152-mm shell for howitzers D-20, 2С3 - 9tys. GGE.

        In the S-8 there is a modification "C", where there are 2 thousand GGE.

        If in Russian: buckshot in the form of nails.
        A terrible thing ...

        If you carefully disassemble the shot (!!!), then it is possible to use them in everyday life, which has been done several times, despite the fellow mothers.

        We are at the "laces" ... I apologize, at the gunners, we always exchanged half a bucket for our pallets. For us, so to speak, for all kinds of household needs, and for them - dishes ...
        War is gradually becoming commonplace ...
        Eheh .................................

        Photo: 3W1
        1. 0
          20 June 2014 14: 36
          The photo shows the head of the S-5s unguided rocket used from UB-16, UB-32 blocks. This stuffing is not ART.
          1. 0
            20 June 2014 15: 37
            Quote: Turkestan
            On the photo

            On the one that I posted?
            Issak, perhaps. Probably you know better.
            We did not have such power supply units, the "arrows" were taken from our neighbors.
            So my knowledge is not professional.

            The post was written because I was tired of hearing about the "shocking" bp used by Kiev ... there is nothing "shocking" here ... ordinary bp.
    4. +1
      20 June 2014 11: 22
      I confirm.
  4. The comment was deleted.
  5. +6
    20 June 2014 10: 59
    Already wrote in a neighboring branch that only m.r.a.p.i. are fighting with children and women, and according to our news they are called the Ukrainian army. Shame on an army that destroys its people. Ukrainians have completely blown away.
  6. portoc65
    +6
    20 June 2014 11: 00
    The interviews were shown on TV, all dotted, all asphalt, trees, all in these arrows. If they are fighting as they say with terrorists, why use weapons of mass destruction. These arrows and evidence, material for the tribunal ... Sooner or later it will take place.
  7. 0
    20 June 2014 11: 02
    They don’t think about God, the brain is completely frozen out ...
    1. +3
      20 June 2014 11: 59
      alas, they have a different God! He is Satan!
  8. 0
    20 June 2014 11: 02
    Inhuman methods of war!
  9. 0
    20 June 2014 11: 04
    In the ass would stick these arrows dill !!! am
  10. +2
    20 June 2014 11: 07
    The United States aroused inhuman beastliness in part of the Ukrainians in order to exterminate the other part remaining human.
  11. +1
    20 June 2014 11: 08
    The bastards will soon start using napalm at such a pace ... Well, true, dill have no vigorous bomb - I think they would not doubt for a minute (further - obscene).
  12. net abortion
    0
    20 June 2014 11: 10
    Decent answer! -
    on the meanness of Ukrainian fascists!


    FISTS OF THE HOMELAND (2014) Issue 1

    The first holders of the St. George Cross of the DPR. "Brick"
    June 20th
    "Brick". Fighter of the "Motorola" unit.
    Machine gunner. During the battles for Semenovka
    the Ukrainian Su-25 attack aircraft shot down from its light (!) machine gun.
    He was awarded the St. George Cross IV degree.
    Listen to what this fighter says!

    http://youtu.be/IPFGlOV9ahk


    In this video "Motorola"
    talks about the feat of "Brick".

    http://youtu.be/aGxRw6kmDDk
  13. +7
    20 June 2014 11: 12
    Ammunition with ready-to-use striking elements were used during the war in Afghanistan. The striking element of 3Sh1 shells (122-mm shell, is included in the ammunition of 122-mm howitzers (D-30, 2C1, M30) and 3Sh2 (152-mm shells for howitzers D-20, 2C3). They do not penetrate armor.
    1. s1н7т
      0
      20 June 2014 19: 12
      And besides shells and bombs, there are also mines with GGE, so to speak: MON-ki are different, OZM-ki. Although, it seems, the "symbiotic" application is still under the label, isn't it?
  14. The comment was deleted.
  15. 0
    20 June 2014 11: 21
    And in Kharkov they continue to partisan ...

    On "heroes" from nat. guards in the Kharkiv region were attacked twice a night

    A checkpoint in Izium in the Kharkiv region, where the base of the Kiev military participating in the "anti-terrorist operation" is located, was shelled in the evening of June 18.

    Such information is available on the official website of the National Guard of Ukraine. As a result, three soldiers of the National Guard received shrapnel wounds.

    And at about three in the morning there was another attack on the checkpoint. As a result, another soldier was injured. All the wounded were helped and taken to medical facilities.

    This is far from the first attack on the Ukrainian military in the Kharkov region, although Kiev authorities claim that the terrorists are “reliably blocked” in the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
  16. Leshka
    0
    20 June 2014 11: 21
    now no wonder why so many wounded
  17. MSA
    MSA
    -1
    20 June 2014 11: 22
    Dill campaign completely lost fear.
  18. +3
    20 June 2014 11: 25
    Quote: volot-voin
    It seems that if dill had nuclear weapons, then they would have used it without hesitation. It seems that they have already used all the weapons that they have on the southeast.

    Dill have dill, current charges are damp wink :
  19. +1
    20 June 2014 11: 26
    The Ukrainian authorities are not only not going to curtail the punitive operation in the East of Ukraine, despite the "peaceful" initiatives of the illegitimate President Poroshenko, but it is also planned to further escalate, and in a new capacity. Former Soviet specialists who served in special forces (Airborne Forces, special forces , capture groups, etc.) and call them into military service regardless of age. For example, my 58-year-old acquaintance received a conscription summons. In the 70s he served in the SA and was the commander of a reconnaissance group. Conclusion: convinced of the complete inability of the independent tents and farriers to fight against the Donbass militias, the Kiev authorities decided to focus on additional training of part of the Ukrainian troops according to Soviet methods. Therefore, soon, instead of the useless right sector and inept young soldiers, we should expect the appearance of decently trained and trained special forces there.
    1. +1
      20 June 2014 12: 26
      I think this is done in order to eradicate the smallest grain of Russianness among the people. Nevertheless, Soviet means Russian, and anti-Soviet means anti-Russian.
  20. 0
    20 June 2014 11: 28
    The worst thing is that the Kiev troops do not allow all civilians to leave the combat zones, thereby tying the militia to civilians and fettering their tactical mobility. If not for this, then the block of posts would have been fired at already near Kiev and Lviv.
    Maybe exaggerate, but not much.
    1. 0
      20 June 2014 12: 36
      Quote: Al_lexx
      Kiev troops do not allow all civilians to leave the combat areas,

      According to the version of the junta defense minister Koval, all residents of these places should go through the so-called filtration, but in fact concentration camps, which are now massively organized around the perimeter of the DPR and LPR. Special units are being created, which will be called the SS (rather symbolically!) After the mass slaughter, which is expected at the final phase of the so-called anti-terrorist, but essentially punitive operation, everyone who wants to leave these places will be placed in these camps. Most likely, most of these will die of starvation, illness, or simply be killed. Local residents will remain in Donetsk, because there will be nothing to do there, since all industry there, according to the US plan, will be destroyed (already on June 27-29 Poroshenko plans to sign an association agreement) In the future, it is planned to partially relocate some of the immigrants from the western region of Ukraine to this region.
      1. 0
        20 June 2014 14: 52
        And minus for what? Have you thought about something? laughing
  21. +2
    20 June 2014 11: 35
    Here I read and think, who will go to war even if the troops are introduced? 99% of conscripts who are drafted have limitations on the degree of suitability of B3 with contract cars; the situation is no better. There has been no real preparation since the end of the 80s, so there is still no. More than 50% of citizens of draft age and those who are in the reserve did not serve at all. New models of equipment have only just begun to enter the troops and they still have to learn to own them, and this is impossible in 1 year of service. The equipment is becoming more and more complicated, but the general level of education of soldiers and sergeants is falling year by year. Literate junior and middle command staff cat wept. If the officers and warrant officers overcame the perduks, the youth have no experience and knowledge, then the sergeants simply have nowhere to come from !!!, there is no one to teach and, again, a year of service. I don’t remember about the contractors, because I know who they basically recruited, as well as the situation with Georgia (I’ll just ignore some nuances here).
  22. -3
    20 June 2014 11: 37
    it seems that Ukraine has become a landfill of the Yankees for the disposal of banned ammunition, a sort of shrapnel from the Yankees ... angry
  23. -1
    20 June 2014 11: 38
    I don’t understand, is this our ammunition, or the USA? If they are, then you can blame them for "sponsoring" the Nazis.
  24. 0
    20 June 2014 11: 38
    EX it would be a knapsack ID, but in joy !!!
  25. ivan.kormoran
    0
    20 June 2014 11: 53
    This is not just shelling, it is the destruction of everything.
    This is impunity, I think that this is the limit.
  26. Dbnfkmtdbx
    0
    20 June 2014 12: 14
    Morons stop you are killing your people do not you think you are going to forgive you forgive vindeta you seem like a child’s game angry
  27. 0
    20 June 2014 12: 29
    if without emotion, then I doubt that these elements "can penetrate any armor"
    The ammunition is purely anti-personnel and "anti-material", that is, a maximum of lightly armored vehicles ...
  28. 0
    20 June 2014 12: 43
    Well, not the creatures, huh !?
  29. ed65b
    +1
    20 June 2014 12: 44
    our things have been used in Afghanistan for a long time. so a thing from old stocks for sure.
  30. -1
    20 June 2014 12: 50
    Oh, I feel sorry for dill .... forbidden and inhuman methods are double-edged weapons .... The guys will not stand it .... you have to wait for tears in the same Kiev .... and then they are all calm ... till.
  31. 0
    20 June 2014 13: 07
    Many talk about the similarity in the form of striking elements with the filling of American mines M546 Apers-T, which the United States used during the Vietnam War, said Lifenews.

    Even in Soviet times, there were howitzer shells with such elements. As a "mine" to lay such on the path of movement of manpower can of course. The penetrating effect is higher than that of the American "ball" bomb and the radius of destruction is also greater, but even against lightly armored vehicles it is ineffective. And, unlike the "ball" bomb - the population too. It was not designed for such situations. But if they are used by the population, then this is ordinary sadism - they no longer know what else to think of in order to intimidate.
    1. s1н7т
      +1
      20 June 2014 19: 17
      Quote: V. Salama
      Not designed for such situations.

      To defeat personnel from above. On the march, in the attack, in the cars, in the trenches, I remember. In these cases, the effectiveness of Pts. high!
      1. +1
        21 June 2014 15: 48
        Quote: c1n7
        On the march, in the attack, in the cars, in the trenches, I remember. In these cases, the effectiveness of Pts. high!

        Everything is correct. But according to the population in the city (if it didn’t take part in the demonstration), there is only one point - to frighten with a new damaging effect, and there will be no mass defeats - there are too many screens and there are practically no crowds on the streets. This is just a manifestation of sadism. And if they will apply it on refugee columns, then they should be soaked as criminals against humanity right at the crime scene from any neighboring territory. And let any international court try to refute the legitimacy of these actions.
        With regard to the armor penetration of these arrows, it is greatly exaggerated ("break through any armor") - it depends on the means of application, the section of the trajectory (where the lateral pressure is maximum), the distance from the center of the explosion, and in most cases, in terms of technology, it is an ordinary fragment.
  32. +1
    20 June 2014 14: 33
    The photo shows the head of the S-5s unguided rocket used from UB-16, Ub-32 blocks. The use of these ammunition is prohibited by international conventions.
    1. 0
      20 June 2014 23: 23
      Quote: Turkestan
      The use of these ammunition is prohibited by international conventions.

      Mm .. since when? napalm know chem. weapons - I know, anti-personnel mines I know, explosive bullets - I know, but since when are ready-to-use striking elements banned?
      This is a common weapon, and there is exactly the same amount of "forbidden" in it as in any other.

      Another thing is for whom this weapon is used ...
  33. 0
    20 June 2014 15: 24
    fascists need an empty territory and therefore ANY weapon capable of massively destroying or at least crippling people will be used.
  34. 0
    20 June 2014 15: 39
    These are not mines. In the photo, the striking elements of the NURS C-5С, I do not even want to comment on the thesis about breaking through their armor - complete ignorance. Purely anti-personnel TSA.
  35. dushman
    +1
    20 June 2014 17: 04
    frankly speaking, this one-goal game is starting to bother, it’s time for Bankovskaya, and indeed for all government buildings in Kiev to drop a few BOVs, it’s a very effective thing, but it’s not nuclear weapons, it’s fun to see the valiant people of Kiev in the role of Slavyansk residents
  36. +1
    20 June 2014 18: 54
    There is doubt, I have never seen such as a filling of regular ammunition.
    Another question, who prevents to answer the same?
    All this garbage about the rules of war was invented (like democracy) for fools.
    The war itself is already without any rules.
    And against the aggressor it is necessary by all available methods and means, like our great-great-grandfathers ... at least Napoleon was fucking, the French were also angry that no one would go to equal fights with them, and more and more on pitchfork, dubbing and ambush (I don’t mean the regular army, the French, read the memoirs, they were much more afraid of the partisans).
    Now is the time of non-positional wars, now is the time of the RDG, partisans, in the presence of modern weapons of WMD, multiple launch rocket weapons, etc. building a front like it was in the Second World War is absurd. According to experience, diversion actions, the actions of small mobile RDGs have an effect comparable to hail, hurricanes, bombing.
    And for a sabotage, all the means to complete the task are good!
    The war for the Natsiks must become horror with all the consequences, in all its glory, so to speak.
    So they can see that they too will be torn (literally), and that their stinking corpses will rot for months in the fields of New Russia.
    1. s1н7т
      0
      20 June 2014 19: 21
      Quote: Skif83
      Now is the time of non-positional wars, now is the time of the RDG

      Tell me, in the staff of which units are these RDGs? Sign up immediately!