Kiev high-precision missiles have long been time to dispose

According to the "Russian Spring", rocket specialists said that the missiles used in the Tochka missile systems, which are in service with the Ukrainian army, have long expired the life of the solid rocket fuel charges.

In 2002, a rocket fired during a training exercise hit a residential building in Brovary. Then three local residents died, five more suffered.

Earlier, the head of the press service of the ATO Vladislav Seleznev said that the territory of the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics can be delivered high-precision rocket attacks.

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[Bodrov]

So that these artillerymen would burst when loading the guns ....

[Alexander Romanov]

Avakov on Facebook will deliver targeted punches with comments and cool pictures to finish off the enemy demoralized by comments

[Rus2012]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Avakov on Facebook will hit the spot

Kiev high-precision missiles have long been time to dispose

... but meanwhile -
Russia itself can create a no-fly zone over the Donbass, - Igor Korotchenko.

... I think that from a political point of view, this question should be raised precisely before the Security Council. For this, in particular, it is necessary to show documentary footage of the destruction of civilians by Ukrainian aviation. Alternatively, Russia may go on to introduce such a zone on its own. To do this, it is enough to pull the air defense forces grouping towards the Russian-Ukrainian border, which will reliably prevent the conduct of hostilities. This is a strong political move that will cause serious resonance, and, as I believe, within the framework of the decision that was given by the Federation Council, such a scenario may well be. But this is an extreme scenario. This is not a deployment of troops, but this step may be followed by a further wave of sanctions and the aggravation of contradictions between Russia and the West ...

Source - http://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/243821-rossiya-sama-mozhet-sozdat-bespoletn
uyu-zonu-nad-donbassom-igor-korotchenko.html

[jjj]

Nevertheless, this option can be considered as the most effective at this stage. The junta will not believe and will twitch. A pair of downed planes will put everything in its place. Yes, and we need to pay for Georgia

[Weniamin]

To do this, it is enough to pull the air defense forces grouping towards the Russian-Ukrainian border

The closest point from the Russian border to Donbass is 67 km.
It is unlikely that air defense at such a distance can effectively deal with low-flying targets.

[s1н7т]

S-300 Favorit (customer index: 35P6, 70P6, 75P6, 9K81, 3M-41) is a family of anti-aircraft missile systems capable of hitting various targets at altitudes: from less than possible flight altitude - up to heights exceeding the ceiling [4] for purposes; at ranges: from several kilometers - up to 150, 200, 300 kilometers ... "

So not everything is so bad!

[aleks 62]

Quote: Weniamin

To do this, it is enough to pull the air defense forces grouping towards the Russian-Ukrainian border

The closest point from the Russian border to Donbass is 67 km.
It is unlikely that air defense at such a distance can effectively deal with low-flying targets.

... And what about the S-300 .... Enlighten .... Yes, and heavy air-to-air missiles launched from aircraft have a range of 150-180 km .... Who is in the subject enlighten ...

[tilovaykrisa]

It’s quite a normal distance of up to 200 km, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have no tomahawks, and it’s quite possible to shoot down obsolete attack aircraft and turntables.

[Ascetic]

Quote: Rus2012

Russia itself can create a no-fly zone over the Donbass

And there is no need to create.

at the end of spring 2012, the “Program for the restoration of combat readiness of the anti-aircraft troops equipment of the Air forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine until 2017” was approved, according to which repair work is planned for four S-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems and one Buk-M1 complex. The implementation of the program is entrusted to the Ukroboronservis enterprise.

It is assumed that S-300PT, S-200V and S-300V1 complexes will be decommissionedand the total number of divisions will be reduced to 40, of which one third will be Buk-M1 systems, and two-thirds will be S-300PS air defense systems.

Are there any prospects for Ukrainian air defense systems?
Rus, I think you’re in the topic that 30 divisions of S-300PS (medium range to 75km) will not be able to provide complete protection even along the entire border with Russia, including Crimea.
And the real state of the divisions, and most importantly the missiles, raises deep doubt about their combat readiness.

[Rus2012]

Quote: Ascetic

Rus, I think you’re in the topic that 30 divisions of S-300PS (medium range to 75km) will not be able to provide complete protection even along the entire border with Russia, including Crimea.

..yk tovzhe - "Russia itself can create a no-fly zone over Donbass", - wrote expert Korotchenko, a student of 2 academies :)
For me - to suppress what "shines and moves" - air defense objects, including the runway, Tochki-U, Iskander, old R-17 ... And then establish "air supremacy" ...
Well, after that, at least Ramzan’s hands were untied
Ramzan Kadyrov: Chechens are waiting for an order that will be executed at lightning speed

For the second time in the last day I have to express my extreme indignation at the actions of the Ukrainian authorities in the cities of Donetsk and other southeastern regions. If gangs operate in Ukraine and are protected by illegal authorities, tenfold indignation is caused by the results of discussions at the UN Security Council on the situation in this country.

Earlier, when terrorists shed blood in Chechnya, and the UN was silent, I understood that this organization does not have its own position, its own opinion. Almost all countries in the UN act only at the direction of the United States and Western Europe. And the disobeyed is lined up for Afghanistan, Libya, and Iraq.
At that moment, when local residents were dying under rocket fire of Ukrainian helicopters in Slavyansk, when people were burning in Odessa in a house set on fire by right-wing sector militants, not a single country in the UN condemned the Ukrainian punitive operation. There is not a single conflict that the UN would resolve. And this will not continue until the United States imposes its will on a stick and a carrot.
Even today I receive letters from Slavyansk screaming for help. AND THEY WILL NOT BE LEFT WITHOUT ATTENTION !!! Russia is strong in the unity of peoples. We will not leave our compatriots in trouble. I advise those who have forgotten to look into history and recall that Russia has not lost a single war, because at the time of danger all the people who are like one big family are standing up. I am forced to recall that the West, through the hands of terrorists, tried to light a fire in Chechnya and destroy Russia. We sent their emissaries to where there is no return. And today, thousands of Chechens are ready at any moment to defend the civilians of Ukraine. They are waiting for an order to be executed with lightning speed. I am sure that the same mood is in other regions. Russia and its peoples support the firm stance of Russian President Vladimir Putin on Ukraine. This is the main thing, not empty talk at the UN Security Council!

Source - http://antifashist.com/item/ramzan-kadyrov-chechency-zhdut-prikaza-kotoryj-budet

-molnienosno-vypolnen.html

[Rus2012]

Quote: Rus2012

At least Ramzan’s hands were untied

By the way, good news has gone -

The troops of the Russian army decided to stay near the Ukrainian border. The challenge of the 15-thousandth group, which Vladimir Putin announced on the eve of the presidential election in Ukraine, has not been fully implemented.

Several thousand Russian troops and a significant amount of military equipment remain at the training grounds in areas adjacent to Ukraine. The withdrawal plan has been revised due to the tightening of the anti-terrorist operation in southeastern Ukraine, a source at the General Staff reports.

Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/29/05/2014/927058.shtml

Militia fighters shot down a helicopter controlled by Kiev's armed forces on the southeastern outskirts of Slavyansk, in the area of ​​Chervony Molochar. It is reported by ITAR-TASS with reference to the representative of the militia. According to him, intense firing is heard in this area, thick black smoke is visible.

29 May 2014, 13: 05

Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/34123#ixzz335y4pUZW

For this, the Tribunal and the invasion are shining for sure -
The Ukrainian army used the Grad installation against the inhabitants of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk

The punitive military operation in southeastern Ukraine is becoming increasingly widespread. According to the Ukrainian media, today the security forces used artillery, aviation and anti-militia in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. volley fire installations. A school and a kindergarten were shelled yesterday in Slavyansk.
The Ukrainian army began a full-scale bombardment of cities in the east of the country. According to the agency, in the framework of this "anti-terrorist operation" Kramatorsk and Slavyansk are attacked by aircraft, artillery and Grad multiple rocket launchers.

Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/34121#ixzz335yVOQAK

[Ascetic]

I will add more news on a neighboring branch are already discussing

Near Slavyansk, militants from MANPADS shot down a helicopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, killing 14 security forces. This was announced at a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada on Thursday by the acting President, Parliament Speaker Alexander Turchinov.
“We have just received information directly from Slavyansk that terrorists from Russian MANPADS weapons shot down our helicopter, which was carrying military personnel for rotation. 14 of our troops died with General Kulchitsky", - he said.
Deputies honored the memory of the victims with a minute of silence.

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"Reinforcement" trained in the Chechen mountains by instructors from "Alpha" begins to work

[alex-s]

It would be better if their leaders were torn apart!

[major071]

In 2002, a missile launched during an exercise hit a residential building in Brovary

I propose to make another launch towards Kiev. You see, the rocket will find the target in the form of a junta.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: major071

You see, the rocket will find a target in the form of a junta

Well, how about the Jews-Kiev slaps? Immediately anti-Semitism will be sewn!

[abrakadabre]

Well, how about the Jews-Kiev slaps? Immediately anti-Semitism will be sewn!

To answer that the launch was carried out in accordance with all the requirements of kashrut.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: abrakadabre

Reply that the launch was in accordance

There is no launch, and there is a minus. Conclusion, there is a complete lack of self-criticism, and this is one of the causes of schizophrenia.

[1812 1945]

Quote: Bodrov

So that these artillerymen would burst when loading the guns ....

Well - I don’t know! ... How can such an "unexpected joy" be disposed of? You're right, Bodrov, hardly anything - "more precisely", grief - the warriors of the junta can please!

[armageddon]

Hmm ... PPC ... Howitzers and tanks were already burning ... We'll wait ... Maybe KIEV WILL ARRIVE ... !!!

[ispaniard]

No, it didn’t just burst at launch ... It is necessary to bring down the target designation and specify 3 objects as targets: 1) Maidan 2) Verkhova Rada 3) The building of the SBU / CIA in Kiev ... And that’s it, the FERAMINAL WAR WILL END.

[ispaniard]

No, it didn’t just burst at launch ... It is necessary to bring down the target designation and specify 3 objects as targets: 1) Maidan 2) Verkhova Rada 3) The building of the SBU / CIA in Kiev ... And that’s it, the FERAMINAL WAR WILL END.

[xenod55]

Maybe these missiles will fly into the Ukrainian Rada at launch, if only then all - Ponosenko, Turchins, Yatseniuk, Avaks, and other overseas lackeys were in place.

[yushch]

Most likely, they have all the weapons and ammunition still Soviet-made, it remains to wonder how it shoots where it should be.

[koksalek]

Weak consolation ... unpredictable weapons in the hands of unpredictable fascists who do not get out of their dope - I don’t even know how to say it

[Bodrov]

Quote: koksalek

Weak consolation ... unpredictable weapons in the hands of unpredictable fascists who do not get out of their dope - I don’t even know how to say it

We all hope that the Kiev junta will work by mistake ...
That would be a beautiful ending.

[Penzyac]

Quote: koksalek

Weak consolation ... unpredictable weapons in the hands of unpredictable fascists who do not get out of their dope - I don’t even know how to say it

This is called a monkey with a grenade.

[Corsair]

Quote: PENZYAC

This is called a monkey with a grenade.

A fascist with "Tochka" is even worse ...
If they finally go to sleep and begin to "beat" the OTR cities, then ...

[Znayka]

The Nazis have enough intelligence and "Grad" to work in city blocks ...

[bulvas]

Quote: koksalek

Weak consolation ... unpredictable weapons in the hands of unpredictable fascists who do not get out of their dope - I don’t even know how to say it

By and large, these "rocket artillerymen" do not care where the rocket explodes -
on the launcher at launch, at a random location in a residential area, or at a target point. Whoever died, Avakov will write that N terrorists have been destroyed, and the "commander-in-chief" in Kiev will confirm this message.

So it turns out that the weapon is "high-precision"

[serioga]

it will then be highly accurate when all the missiles arrive in parliament during a banderlog meeting

[mad]

Quote: bulvas

Whoever died, Avakov will write that N terrorists have been destroyed, and the "commander-in-chief" in Kiev will confirm this message.

+ The New York Times will show a video from Iraq, saying that they are the murdered Kadyrovtsy near Slavyansk. And Psaki indistinctly confirms this nonsense, saying that it was so.

[jktu66]

Weak consolation ... unpredictable weapons in the hands of unpredictable fascists who do not get out of their dope - I don’t even know how to say it

Monkey with a grenade

[ty60]

It will turn out to be too fat, and if God forbid it flies to the territory of Russia, then there will be a neat point in Kiev.

[Oleg Sobol]

In 2002, a rocket fired during a training exercise hit a residential building in Brovary. Then three local residents died, five more suffered.

Juntists need such "precision" ...
It’s time not only for the missiles, but for the junta to be disposed of.

[Roman1970]

Yes, it was ...

On 20 on April 2000, a rocket was launched from the Goncharovsky training ground, located 130 km north of Kiev, which, after launch, deviated from the course and went to 15: 07 hit a residential building in Brovary, breaking through the building from the ninth to the second floor . 3 died and 5 people were injured (according to other sources, there were also three wounded). Fortunately, the rocket was equipped with an inert warhead, otherwise there would have been significantly more victims. The cause of the tragic incident by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine called the failure of the missile control system

[Penzyac]

"In 2002, a rocket launched during an exercise hit a residential building in Brovary. Then three local residents were killed and five more injured."
I hope this time right on the launchers they will start to tear, that would be high-precision.

[from punk]

Point on the militias in the "brilliant green"? Or in the city? Sorry, but this is already F * OPA instead of a head

[Panikovsky]

That's what this is about. except how fart louder on the TV it’s smarter not to come up with anything.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

In 2002, a missile launched during an exercise hit a residential building in Brovary.

That is why they want to apply them to SE ... And then refer that they are outdated and Putin twisted something in them specially .. (all according to the training manual ..)))

[Vitaly Anisimov]

In 2002, a missile launched during an exercise hit a residential building in Brovary.

That is why they want to apply them to SE ... And then refer that they are outdated and Putin twisted something in them specially .. (all according to the training manual ..)))

[awg75]

"Tochka", although old, but in the complete absence of air defense is a very dangerous weapon. it's too bad that the monkey still has a grenade in his hands

[tormazok]

Shob Ukrainian "Point" flew Poroshenko straight to the "fifth point"

[fox21h]

By their actions, these imbeciles only more people set themselves up against themselves, thanks to their actions even more people will go to the militia.

[Giant thought]

Ukrainian monkeys with grenades in their hands.

[maxim1]

No high-precision missiles will help them soon.
On rusvesna.su: "Igor Strelkov: There will be no more bulletins"
Relocation? Prelude to the offensive - the imminent end of the ATO?

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

........... Igor Strelkov bitterly said that they can now be crushed without the help of Russia ......., and you are the offensive ............. ...

[Khalmamed]

..... "point" from the macaques on this and remained, no one wanted to buy a rusty pipe.
..... eh fools macaques such a chance of demonizing GDP was pumped, ... "GDP is to blame for everything by the power of thought. He is outdated fuel in macaque commas."
..... macaques try to season with charcoal from a donbass.

[Pasus]

according to the law of meanness, Ukrainian warriors will be able to spoil and victims will be, despite the expired shelf life of rocket fuel. more and more diverse types of weapons are required by the Southeast to deter the enemy.

[Yon_Silent]

Wow! Lottery! The lottery is the use of missiles with expired TRT. Combined fuel decomposes during storage, even despite the tricks of chemists who shove various stabilizers into the mixture. And after a certain time, there is a possibility that cracks may appear in the charge (after transport shocks and vibrations). A crack is an increase in the burning area. Which, in turn, during ignition of the fuel will lead to a pressure jump with subsequent destruction of the structure.
And here’s an oil painting: the launch rocket is shrouded in soot, a tongue of flame appears on the wall and everything is hidden in a cloud of a poisonous yellow explosion. Including the car of the complex. And this if warhead does not work. So the junta will have a lottery. And to us - an attraction.

[Landwarrior]

Yon_Silent, "Ukrainian Roulette"

[jjj]

Quote: Jon_ Quiet

Combined fuel decomposes during storage, even despite the tricks of chemists who shove various stabilizers into the mixture.

So it happened with the missiles on the boats of the project 941. The new ones were not released, and the old ones ran out of resources. The last missiles were disposed of within the Begemot-2 before the eyes of Western experts. From the volley of the "Shark" they got stupid

[aleks 62]

Quote: jjj

Quote: Jon_ Quiet

Combined fuel decomposes during storage, even despite the tricks of chemists who shove various stabilizers into the mixture.

So it happened with the missiles on the boats of the project 941. The new ones were not released, and the old ones ran out of resources. The last missiles were disposed of within the Begemot-2 before the eyes of Western experts. From the volley of the "Shark" they got stupid

.... Yes, a beautiful video was ... In 5 minutes, the entire ammunition was shot ... Nowhere in the world did this ....

[zadorin1974]

Dear Yon or someone from artilleristov.U I have such a question, at one time there was such an ammunition, in my opinion it was called "Krasnopol" with laser guidance. Can I be wrong, do not vzyshite.Can he be at the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine-And how does the guidance system work? As I understand it, someone should illuminate the chel with a laser and is within line of sight?

[Yon_Silent]

Yes you are right.
For example, the same 3OF39 "Krasnopol" (I quote the technical description 3VOF64.00.TO, the neck is removed) ".. is designed to destroy small-sized ground targets when firing from closed firing positions from artillery systems D-20 and 2S3M when illuminated by a laser designator beam - rangefinder 1D15 ... "
The same principle of semi-active guidance is used by the Krasnopol-M2 and Kitolov guided mines Gran, Centimeter and Centimeter-2 that are currently in service.
Such a scheme has its drawbacks, for which we have long scolded it (and in the West, in general, they defiantly turned their nose away). The biggest drawback is the presence of this very LCD. This is such a sickly box that one person will not carry far. Therefore, they are worn by two, in turn. Plus a cover group is also needed. As a result, a group of 5-6 potential "Heroes" is recruited. Plus, before shooting, you need to get in touch in order to synchronize the time (timers at the firing point and in the LCD system must work synchronously)
And if the object is really guarded in good faith, with sentinel groups and dogs, with drones with IR cameras, with seismic sensors, with LI and radio signal detectors, jammers and other miracles, then the chances of gunners from potential to become real heroes increase posthumously. What can not demoralize. But the disruption of the combat mission is most unpleasant.

[silverwolf88]

Maintaining weapons in good condition and readiness for use is expensive ... and especially highly accurate weapons. Ukraine has not been doing this for a long time ... the accuracy of that ... remains a big question.

[Bobxnumx]

This is evident from the series with which a civilian plane was shot down at one time. High accuracy is amazing.

[asar]

You can also shoot through the city with "high-precision and inaccurate" rockets! It is not so important for U.O.d.o. to know where they will go! The main thing is on the "goal"! One hope that they will not "take off" or simply "will not fly"!

[Standard Oil]

Let them just try, then Russia will put an end to the junta.

[best_ua]

And why immediately around the city. There are bases, camps, etc. Remind me, than Dudaev
hit?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: best_ua

And why immediately around the city

And why now they beat every day on the heels?

Quote: best_ua

. Remind me, than Dudaev
hit?

What you don’t have for a long time. And if there is anything left in the warehouses, it’s not known where it will fly.

[zadorin1974]

The cost that Dudaev ended up with about 10% of the cost of armored vehicles in Ukraine plus a delivery vehicle and highly trained service personnel. The rocket was aimed at a satellite phone. At the same time, the shooting was from an airplane. Here and figure it out in your spare time, where you will get such money for buying missiles - which one will sell them to you and again the question is in service and combat specialists?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

But shmalnut ... (and the State Department will give such permission)

[naGua]

If suddenly these parasites start shooting, then let the guidance system fail and the rocket will hit the place of stay of one of the Kiev Fuhrer !!! And if they gather for the next puppet "round table", then right in the center of the table! Then it will be a precision weapon. Only her range is only 120 km. My dreams will not come true: ((

[Moore]

Quote: Jon_ Quiet

A crack is an increase in the burning area. Which, in turn, during ignition of the fuel will lead to a pressure jump with subsequent destruction of the structure.
And here’s an oil painting: the launch rocket is shrouded in soot, a tongue of flame appears on the wall and everything is hidden in a cloud of a poisonous yellow explosion. Including the car of the complex. And this if warhead does not work. So the junta will have a lottery. And to us - an attraction.

There is another option: not destruction of the structure, but a change in the combustion mode of the fuel and, as a result, an unregulated (because of the turbojet engine) change in engine thrust. As a result, the product flies anywhere, if there is no self-destruction system.

[rassel0889]

Thank god there is no atomic weapon! What would it be now ...

[CadetXXX]

Ukraine would no longer exist ...

[ed65b]

Yesterday Tsarev announced the loss figure in the southeast that the United States called acceptable, from 1000 to 2000 people, as they said in the United States, the world will tolerate it or not notice it. Will Putin notice?

[s1н7т]

From zhezh, creatures! And how will they endure a thousand of their losses ?! Nothing human at all!

[sabakina]

I really hope that the start (s) of "Points" (if there really are any) will exactly repeat the start of that very "Challenger" shuttle.

[Tolerast]

It’s time to dispose of missiles ... It’s time to dispose of Bender’s ruin.

[Fantazer911]

UkroAvakova has precise slingshots and a lot of geymaydanavtsy for exact podzhopnogo kick, followed by acceleration to the side where the beaten cup and mikola centurion rests.

[BOB044]

Ukrainian rocket launchers shot down a passenger plane Novosibirsk Israel during exercises. So they are still the arrows. Maybe God will help and they will get to the house of government in Kiev.

[sanek0207]

Avakov is not a man at all, if he gives orders to fight against his people! This is gay!

[Corsair]

Quote: sanek0207

Avakov is not a man at all, if he gives orders to fight against his people! This is gay!

For you, it has only now become apparent?

[Dbnfkmtdbx]

and about the missiles and weapons they were already told, but along the way they didn’t instruct now stupid people to get the full I heard that Avakov with this pervert had already left two bearded guys for the fact that he spat on their main

[Bassoon]

I hope that these missiles will detonate right in the launchers, causing catastrophic losses to the Bandera rifle

[alikalik]

Apparently the Americans promised some sort of weapon. Not all the time to feed dry. rations and a uniform. But apparently Obama should take into account Russia. These inadequate can also shoot in another place. Then get a retaliatory strike. a moment at the junta? so apart from hail, apparently nothing.

[Armored optimist]

Samol, which was shot down by the Ukrainians, had on board three serious microbiologists. In that and the previous year they disappeared, died under strange circumstances, committed suicide, etc. about twenty of such specialists around the world. Coincidence?

[Landwarrior]

Darn-dug !!!! How could 3 (THREE) Soviet districts, from the most combat-ready, bring to such a handle! Okay, maybe they didn’t need so many weapons, they sold it. So, after all, the rest should be supported in a little, little way, if only because nobody will buy rubbish, even blacks in Africa
Or do they have generals from those ensigns who all over the Union were sitting in warehouses and bargaining from under the floors with entrusted property?
Then only mats, then curl

[Boricello]

Here on the militias, they recycle them.

[kostyan77708]

Boricello (1) KZ Today, 11: 56 New

Here on the militias, they recycle them. I think it’s unlikely that they will be scared to launch rockets that can fuck ... right at the start, because T.O. hardly anyone had spent these complexes since the times of the USSR .... well, if you crash at the start it’s only for the better, and if by mistake in the rain during the meeting there will be grace in general

[Grabberxnumx]

Sashko Bely gathered his tribe and speech pushed:
- MAYDANOVS !!! Are we a great people?
- DAAAAAA!
“Then why don't we have a nuclear missile?”
- Nuuuuu ... Let's build.
They cut down the healthiest oak, hollowed out the core with axes, prepared the gunpowder according to old recipes of scalped Cossacks, hammered it, nailed the cork, and pulled out a thick rope into the wick.
- Where will we launch it?
- on her of course!
They wrote on the rocket "On her triplets", piled up the whole tribe, set fire to the fuse ... but it is LIKE FUCK $ NO! ... In short, the local armageddon: smoke, fumes, everyone is lying around ... Sashko, without a leg, without an arm, looks around :
- Nee x $ I imagine ... Imagine what is happening with the masqueals ...

[Drednout]

Quote: Weniamin

To do this, it is enough to pull the air defense forces grouping towards the Russian-Ukrainian border

The closest point from the Russian border to Donbass is 67 km.
It is unlikely that air defense at such a distance can effectively deal with low-flying targets.

Then only air defense is direct to Donbass. Or preemptive missile cdar at airfields.

[mister2013]

Quote: Weniamin

To do this, it is enough to pull the air defense forces grouping towards the Russian-Ukrainian border

The closest point from the Russian border to Donbass is 67 km.
It is unlikely that air defense at such a distance can effectively deal with low-flying targets.

S-300 will be freely available, and we have a lot of old missiles - it's time to start ..., to update the BC.

[Chaika]

Do you know how many machine guns we have? Seven! No, six ... One bites, the other bounces like a madman, and the third bastard bullets in his own. And the seventh I secretly from the chieftain ataman traded for these pants.

[Leshka]

it is necessary to show them what a real high-precision weapon is; it is necessary for Iskander to add weight to them and that’s all

[marder4]

I hope the engines at their missiles the engines will not work at all or will explode at the start ...

[novel68rus]

if there is air defense there will be such a stench that rises from the states .. it’s only possible for them to establish no-fly zones after all ..

[jovanni]

So they decided to dispose of them. Together with the people of the South-East, p. Adly!

[sergej591910]

Not quite right ... During that launch there was an orientation error of the launcher. It's okay, it's just that the operator made a little mistake when orienting ... 180 degrees ... And about the Tochka missiles, everything is very clear: the "youngest" of them were produced in 1989-1990. The shelf life of a solid fuel charge is 10 years. Well, let us throw in another five years (for reinsurers who reduce the warranty period). So count it ... And with such a "stale" charge, amazing, and very unexpected events can occur. For example, missile failure, or rocket explosion in flight (2 - 5 seconds), when the altitude is about 250 - 300 meters, or missile deviation from the course ... Good "Tochka" complex, but already old ... Replace it with dill there is really nothing, if only the overseas ATACMS is 5 - 10 years younger, or buy Iskander-E from Russia, but that's another story ...

[Muxalet]

Turntables and "GRAD" are already working in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk ... and such little people have also been noticed .. maybe someone knows something about "this"?

[kafa]

hard to see but this fag is stamped like a national guardsman
Amer’s trunk M60 IF NOT A PHOTOSHOP, then some sort of voyage was told to him that he is immortal and not punishable ...

[aleks 62]

Quote: Muxalet

Turntables and "GRAD" are already working in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk ... and such little people have also been noticed .. maybe someone knows something about "this"?

..Very like a mine-suit (mine sappers use it when clearing mine) .... Although it’s unlikely to help with a machine gun, it will beat everything and break bones ... I think for complacency ... It’s especially impressive how he takes care of his tomatoes :)) ))) .... But they will be soft-boiled ..

[Marconi41]

Quote: Weniamin

It is unlikely that air defense at such a distance can effectively deal with low-flying targets.

Absolutely right! The introduction of a no-fly zone - you can’t do without aviation and AWACS in any way. This means that it is also necessary to suppress air defense facilities of Ukraine. In addition, specialists will have to be introduced to collect intelligence and aim at the target. All this is an adult war. Do not underestimate the enemy. Remember the Georgian company and Ukrainian BUKI there.

[Yun Klob]

Maybe one of the volunteers in the TOP garage was lying around?

[aleks 62]

.... What about the suitability of the X-29 ????

[maxim]

and if these missiles to buy, instead of paying for gas?

[kafa]

sell at the price of Boeing and offer muskets and falconets from museums

[Cynic]

Quote: maxim

and if these missiles to buy, instead of paying for gas?

Correctly kafa about the price said!
If the maydaunas have raised the price of water for Crimea 50 times, then imagine the price of missiles ...
By the way, after all, recently the Kiev authorities offered a price for gas transit adequate to the amount for gas consumed!
Combinators!

[kafa]

there are still some left. laser-guided, illuminated and chiseled

[Cynic]

Quote from rudolf

What's the point of using Point?

Do you expect the current Kyiv authorities to act meaningfully?

[Armored optimist]

Quote: Marconi41

Quote: Weniamin

It is unlikely that air defense at such a distance can effectively deal with low-flying targets.

Absolutely right! The introduction of a no-fly zone - you can’t do without aviation and AWACS in any way. This means that it is also necessary to suppress air defense facilities of Ukraine. In addition, specialists will have to be introduced to collect intelligence and aim at the target. All this is an adult war. Do not underestimate the enemy. Remember the Georgian company and Ukrainian BUKI there.

Yes, I can answer with my avatar.
But the S-300 is 20-30 kilometers from the border and you won’t need to shoot. Or the pilots will require to pay not 9000 UAH, but 90000. If you use the MIG-31 with K-37 missiles, then the launch range will be 280 km.

[Viktor64]

The main thing for them is to say beautiful words - highly accurate. The most important thing is that the accuracy of this weapon is not high at all, and the term “high-precision” implies that the accuracy of the hit is higher than the radius of destruction. That is, hitting a residential building, instead of a checkpoint, it will be a high-precision hit. But the clowns who are at the head of Ukraine do not seem to understand anything at all, just to compose a beautiful fairy tale for the people. Maybe the missiles will explode upon launch and kill these killers shooting at civilians.

[Captain45]

Quote: Hedgehog

Well, how about the Jews-Kiev slaps? Immediately anti-Semitism will be sewn!

I suggest reading this article http://rusmir.in.ua/pol/5509-chto-sluchilos-s-evreyami.html about Ukrainian e.v.r.e.e.v.

[Cristall]

and everything that was discussed is not a form of invasion. troops, which everyone brushes aside, with the interpretation that the West is waiting for this?