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Kiev high-precision missiles have long been time to dispose

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According to the "Russian Spring", rocket specialists said that the missiles used in the Tochka missile systems, which are in service with the Ukrainian army, have long expired the life of the solid rocket fuel charges.


In 2002, a rocket fired during a training exercise hit a residential building in Brovary. Then three local residents died, five more suffered.

Earlier, the head of the press service of the ATO Vladislav Seleznev said that the territory of the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics can be delivered high-precision rocket attacks.
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  1. Bodrov
    Bodrov 29 May 2014 10: 48
    +54
    So that these artillerymen would burst when loading the guns ....
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 May 2014 10: 56
      +30
      Avakov on Facebook will deliver targeted punches with comments and cool pictures to finish off the enemy demoralized by comments laughing
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 29 May 2014 11: 48
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Avakov on Facebook will hit the spot

        Kiev high-precision missiles have long been time to dispose

        ... but meanwhile -
        Russia itself can create a no-fly zone over the Donbass, - Igor Korotchenko.
        ... I think that from a political point of view, this question should be raised precisely before the Security Council. For this, in particular, it is necessary to show documentary footage of the destruction of civilians by Ukrainian aviation. Alternatively, Russia may go on to introduce such a zone on its own. To do this, it is enough to pull the air defense forces grouping towards the Russian-Ukrainian border, which will reliably prevent the conduct of hostilities. This is a strong political move that will cause serious resonance, and, as I believe, within the framework of the decision that was given by the Federation Council, such a scenario may well be. But this is an extreme scenario. This is not a deployment of troops, but this step may be followed by a further wave of sanctions and the aggravation of contradictions between Russia and the West ...

        Source - http://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/243821-rossiya-sama-mozhet-sozdat-bespoletn
        uyu-zonu-nad-donbassom-igor-korotchenko.html
        1. jjj
          jjj 29 May 2014 11: 55
          +9
          Nevertheless, this option can be considered as the most effective at this stage. The junta will not believe and will twitch. A pair of downed planes will put everything in its place. Yes, and we need to pay for Georgia
        2. Weniamin
          Weniamin 29 May 2014 12: 01
          +2
          To do this, it is enough to pull the air defense forces grouping towards the Russian-Ukrainian border

          The closest point from the Russian border to Donbass is 67 km.
          It is unlikely that air defense at such a distance can effectively deal with low-flying targets.
          1. s1н7т
            s1н7т 29 May 2014 12: 48
            +2
            S-300 Favorit (customer index: 35P6, 70P6, 75P6, 9K81, 3M-41) is a family of anti-aircraft missile systems capable of hitting various targets at altitudes: from less than possible flight altitude - up to heights exceeding the ceiling [4] for purposes; at ranges: from several kilometers - up to 150, 200, 300 kilometers ... "

            So not everything is so bad! soldier
          2. aleks 62
            aleks 62 29 May 2014 12: 50
            +1
            Quote: Weniamin
            To do this, it is enough to pull the air defense forces grouping towards the Russian-Ukrainian border

            The closest point from the Russian border to Donbass is 67 km.
            It is unlikely that air defense at such a distance can effectively deal with low-flying targets.

            ... And what about the S-300 .... Enlighten .... Yes, and heavy air-to-air missiles launched from aircraft have a range of 150-180 km .... Who is in the subject enlighten ...
          3. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 29 May 2014 14: 52
            0
            It’s quite a normal distance of up to 200 km, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have no tomahawks, and it’s quite possible to shoot down obsolete attack aircraft and turntables.
        3. Ascetic
          Ascetic 29 May 2014 12: 41
          +2
          Quote: Rus2012
          Russia itself can create a no-fly zone over the Donbass


          And there is no need to create.
          at the end of spring 2012, the “Program for the restoration of combat readiness of the anti-aircraft troops equipment of the Air forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine until 2017” was approved, according to which repair work is planned for four S-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems and one Buk-M1 complex. The implementation of the program is entrusted to the Ukroboronservis enterprise.

          It is assumed that S-300PT, S-200V and S-300V1 complexes will be decommissionedand the total number of divisions will be reduced to 40, of which one third will be Buk-M1 systems, and two-thirds will be S-300PS air defense systems.

          Are there any prospects for Ukrainian air defense systems?
          Rus, I think you’re in the topic that 30 divisions of S-300PS (medium range to 75km) will not be able to provide complete protection even along the entire border with Russia, including Crimea.
          And the real state of the divisions, and most importantly the missiles, raises deep doubt about their combat readiness.
          1. Rus2012
            Rus2012 29 May 2014 12: 58
            +2
            Quote: Ascetic
            Rus, I think you’re in the topic that 30 divisions of S-300PS (medium range to 75km) will not be able to provide complete protection even along the entire border with Russia, including Crimea.


            ..yk tovzhe - "Russia itself can create a no-fly zone over Donbass", - wrote expert Korotchenko, a student of 2 academies :)
            For me - to suppress what "shines and moves" - air defense objects, including the runway, Tochki-U, Iskander, old R-17 ... And then establish "air supremacy" ...
            Well, after that, at least Ramzan’s hands were untied
            Ramzan Kadyrov: Chechens are waiting for an order that will be executed at lightning speed
            For the second time in the last day I have to express my extreme indignation at the actions of the Ukrainian authorities in the cities of Donetsk and other southeastern regions. If gangs operate in Ukraine and are protected by illegal authorities, tenfold indignation is caused by the results of discussions at the UN Security Council on the situation in this country.

            Earlier, when terrorists shed blood in Chechnya, and the UN was silent, I understood that this organization does not have its own position, its own opinion. Almost all countries in the UN act only at the direction of the United States and Western Europe. And the disobeyed is lined up for Afghanistan, Libya, and Iraq.
            At that moment, when local residents were dying under rocket fire of Ukrainian helicopters in Slavyansk, when people were burning in Odessa in a house set on fire by right-wing sector militants, not a single country in the UN condemned the Ukrainian punitive operation. There is not a single conflict that the UN would resolve. And this will not continue until the United States imposes its will on a stick and a carrot.
            Even today I receive letters from Slavyansk screaming for help. AND THEY WILL NOT BE LEFT WITHOUT ATTENTION !!! Russia is strong in the unity of peoples. We will not leave our compatriots in trouble. I advise those who have forgotten to look into history and recall that Russia has not lost a single war, because at the time of danger all the people who are like one big family are standing up. I am forced to recall that the West, through the hands of terrorists, tried to light a fire in Chechnya and destroy Russia. We sent their emissaries to where there is no return. And today, thousands of Chechens are ready at any moment to defend the civilians of Ukraine. They are waiting for an order to be executed with lightning speed. I am sure that the same mood is in other regions. Russia and its peoples support the firm stance of Russian President Vladimir Putin on Ukraine. This is the main thing, not empty talk at the UN Security Council!

            Source - http://antifashist.com/item/ramzan-kadyrov-chechency-zhdut-prikaza-kotoryj-budet

            -molnienosno-vypolnen.html
            1. Rus2012
              Rus2012 29 May 2014 13: 29
              +1
              Quote: Rus2012
              At least Ramzan’s hands were untied

              By the way, good news has gone -
              The troops of the Russian army decided to stay near the Ukrainian border. The challenge of the 15-thousandth group, which Vladimir Putin announced on the eve of the presidential election in Ukraine, has not been fully implemented.

              Several thousand Russian troops and a significant amount of military equipment remain at the training grounds in areas adjacent to Ukraine. The withdrawal plan has been revised due to the tightening of the anti-terrorist operation in southeastern Ukraine, a source at the General Staff reports.

              Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/29/05/2014/927058.shtml
              Militia fighters shot down a helicopter controlled by Kiev's armed forces on the southeastern outskirts of Slavyansk, in the area of ​​Chervony Molochar. It is reported by ITAR-TASS with reference to the representative of the militia. According to him, intense firing is heard in this area, thick black smoke is visible.

              29 May 2014, 13: 05

              Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/34123#ixzz335y4pUZW

              For this, the Tribunal and the invasion are shining for sure -
              The Ukrainian army used the Grad installation against the inhabitants of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk

              The punitive military operation in southeastern Ukraine is becoming increasingly widespread. According to the Ukrainian media, today the security forces used artillery, aviation and anti-militia in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. volley fire installations. A school and a kindergarten were shelled yesterday in Slavyansk.
              The Ukrainian army began a full-scale bombardment of cities in the east of the country. According to the agency, in the framework of this "anti-terrorist operation" Kramatorsk and Slavyansk are attacked by aircraft, artillery and Grad multiple rocket launchers.

              Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/34121#ixzz335yVOQAK
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic 29 May 2014 15: 34
                0
                I will add more news on a neighboring branch are already discussing

                Near Slavyansk, militants from MANPADS shot down a helicopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, killing 14 security forces. This was announced at a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada on Thursday by the acting President, Parliament Speaker Alexander Turchinov.
                “We have just received information directly from Slavyansk that terrorists from Russian MANPADS weapons shot down our helicopter, which was carrying military personnel for rotation. 14 of our troops died with General Kulchitsky", - he said.
                Deputies honored the memory of the victims with a minute of silence.


                link

                "Reinforcement" trained in the Chechen mountains by instructors from "Alpha" begins to work
    2. alex-s
      alex-s 29 May 2014 10: 56
      +7
      It would be better if their leaders were torn apart!
    3. major071
      major071 29 May 2014 11: 02
      +9
      In 2002, a missile launched during an exercise hit a residential building in Brovary

      I propose to make another launch towards Kiev. You see, the rocket will find the target in the form of a junta. laughing
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 29 May 2014 11: 56
        -1
        Quote: major071
        You see, the rocket will find a target in the form of a junta

        Well, how about the Jews-Kiev slaps? Immediately anti-Semitism will be sewn!
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 29 May 2014 12: 10
          +1
          Well, how about the Jews-Kiev slaps? Immediately anti-Semitism will be sewn!
          To answer that the launch was carried out in accordance with all the requirements of kashrut.
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 29 May 2014 19: 32
            0
            Quote: abrakadabre
            Reply that the launch was in accordance

            There is no launch, and there is a minus. Conclusion, there is a complete lack of self-criticism, and this is one of the causes of schizophrenia.
    4. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 29 May 2014 11: 34
      +1
      Quote: Bodrov
      So that these artillerymen would burst when loading the guns ....

      Well - I don’t know! ... How can such an "unexpected joy" be disposed of? You're right, Bodrov, hardly anything - "more precisely", grief - the warriors of the junta can please!
    5. armageddon
      armageddon 29 May 2014 11: 55
      +3
      Hmm ... PPC ... Howitzers and tanks were already burning ... We'll wait ... Maybe KIEV WILL ARRIVE ... !!!
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    7. ispaniard
      ispaniard 29 May 2014 12: 07
      +3
      No, it didn’t just burst at launch ... It is necessary to bring down the target designation and specify 3 objects as targets: 1) Maidan 2) Verkhova Rada 3) The building of the SBU / CIA in Kiev ... And that’s it, the FERAMINAL WAR WILL END.
    8. ispaniard
      ispaniard 29 May 2014 12: 07
      0
      No, it didn’t just burst at launch ... It is necessary to bring down the target designation and specify 3 objects as targets: 1) Maidan 2) Verkhova Rada 3) The building of the SBU / CIA in Kiev ... And that’s it, the FERAMINAL WAR WILL END.
    9. xenod55
      xenod55 29 May 2014 12: 13
      +1
      Maybe these missiles will fly into the Ukrainian Rada at launch, if only then all - Ponosenko, Turchins, Yatseniuk, Avaks, and other overseas lackeys were in place.
    10. yushch
      yushch 29 May 2014 23: 04
      0
      Most likely, they have all the weapons and ammunition still Soviet-made, it remains to wonder how it shoots where it should be.
  2. koksalek
    koksalek 29 May 2014 10: 49
    +19
    Weak consolation ... unpredictable weapons in the hands of unpredictable fascists who do not get out of their dope - I don’t even know how to say it
    1. Bodrov
      Bodrov 29 May 2014 10: 52
      +7
      Quote: koksalek
      Weak consolation ... unpredictable weapons in the hands of unpredictable fascists who do not get out of their dope - I don’t even know how to say it

      We all hope that the Kiev junta will work by mistake ...
      That would be a beautiful ending.
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 29 May 2014 10: 54
      +8
      Quote: koksalek
      Weak consolation ... unpredictable weapons in the hands of unpredictable fascists who do not get out of their dope - I don’t even know how to say it

      This is called a monkey with a grenade.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 29 May 2014 11: 48
        0
        Quote: PENZYAC
        This is called a monkey with a grenade.

        A fascist with "Tochka" is even worse ...
        If they finally go to sleep and begin to "beat" the OTR cities, then ...
      2. Znayka
        Znayka 29 May 2014 12: 00
        0
        The Nazis have enough intelligence and "Grad" to work in city blocks ...
    3. bulvas
      bulvas 29 May 2014 11: 05
      +7
      Quote: koksalek
      Weak consolation ... unpredictable weapons in the hands of unpredictable fascists who do not get out of their dope - I don’t even know how to say it


      By and large, these "rocket artillerymen" do not care where the rocket explodes -
      on the launcher at launch, at a random location in a residential area, or at a target point. Whoever died, Avakov will write that N terrorists have been destroyed, and the "commander-in-chief" in Kiev will confirm this message.

      So it turns out that the weapon is "high-precision"
      1. serioga
        serioga 29 May 2014 11: 23
        +1
        it will then be highly accurate when all the missiles arrive in parliament during a banderlog meeting
      2. mad
        mad 29 May 2014 11: 33
        +2
        Quote: bulvas
        Whoever died, Avakov will write that N terrorists have been destroyed, and the "commander-in-chief" in Kiev will confirm this message.

        + The New York Times will show a video from Iraq, saying that they are the murdered Kadyrovtsy near Slavyansk. And Psaki indistinctly confirms this nonsense, saying that it was so.
    4. jktu66
      jktu66 29 May 2014 11: 09
      0
      Weak consolation ... unpredictable weapons in the hands of unpredictable fascists who do not get out of their dope - I don’t even know how to say it
      Monkey with a grenade
    5. ty60
      ty60 29 May 2014 11: 37
      0
      It will turn out to be too fat, and if God forbid it flies to the territory of Russia, then there will be a neat point in Kiev.
  3. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 29 May 2014 10: 50
    +6
    In 2002, a rocket fired during a training exercise hit a residential building in Brovary. Then three local residents died, five more suffered.

    Juntists need such "precision" ...
    It’s time not only for the missiles, but for the junta to be disposed of.
    1. Roman1970
      Roman1970 29 May 2014 11: 00
      +1
      Yes, it was ...
      On 20 on April 2000, a rocket was launched from the Goncharovsky training ground, located 130 km north of Kiev, which, after launch, deviated from the course and went to 15: 07 hit a residential building in Brovary, breaking through the building from the ninth to the second floor . 3 died and 5 people were injured (according to other sources, there were also three wounded). Fortunately, the rocket was equipped with an inert warhead, otherwise there would have been significantly more victims. The cause of the tragic incident by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine called the failure of the missile control system
  4. Penzyac
    Penzyac 29 May 2014 10: 52
    +6
    "In 2002, a rocket launched during an exercise hit a residential building in Brovary. Then three local residents were killed and five more injured."
    I hope this time right on the launchers they will start to tear, that would be high-precision.
  5. from punk
    from punk 29 May 2014 10: 52
    +4
    Point on the militias in the "brilliant green"? Or in the city? Sorry, but this is already F * OPA instead of a head
    1. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 29 May 2014 11: 05
      0
      That's what this is about. except how fart louder on the TV it’s smarter not to come up with anything.
  6. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 29 May 2014 10: 53
    +3
    In 2002, a missile launched during an exercise hit a residential building in Brovary.

    That is why they want to apply them to SE ... And then refer that they are outdated and Putin twisted something in them specially .. (all according to the training manual ..)))
  7. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 29 May 2014 10: 53
    +2
    In 2002, a missile launched during an exercise hit a residential building in Brovary.

    That is why they want to apply them to SE ... And then refer that they are outdated and Putin twisted something in them specially .. (all according to the training manual ..)))
  8. awg75
    awg75 29 May 2014 10: 54
    +4
    "Tochka", although old, but in the complete absence of air defense is a very dangerous weapon. it's too bad that the monkey still has a grenade in his hands
  9. tormazok
    tormazok 29 May 2014 10: 54
    +5
    Shob Ukrainian "Point" flew Poroshenko straight to the "fifth point"
  10. fox21h
    fox21h 29 May 2014 10: 55
    +1
    By their actions, these imbeciles only more people set themselves up against themselves, thanks to their actions even more people will go to the militia.
  11. Giant thought
    Giant thought 29 May 2014 10: 57
    0
    Ukrainian monkeys with grenades in their hands.
  12. maxim1
    maxim1 29 May 2014 11: 02
    0
    No high-precision missiles will help them soon.
    On rusvesna.su: "Igor Strelkov: There will be no more bulletins"
    Relocation? Prelude to the offensive - the imminent end of the ATO?
    1. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 29 May 2014 12: 24
      +2
      ........... Igor Strelkov bitterly said that they can now be crushed without the help of Russia ......., and you are the offensive ............. ...
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  13. Khalmamed
    Khalmamed 29 May 2014 11: 02
    +1
    ..... "point" from the macaques on this and remained, no one wanted to buy a rusty pipe.
    ..... eh fools macaques such a chance of demonizing GDP was pumped, ... "GDP is to blame for everything by the power of thought. He is outdated fuel in macaque commas."
    ..... macaques try to season with charcoal from a donbass.
  14. Pasus
    Pasus 29 May 2014 11: 03
    0
    according to the law of meanness, Ukrainian warriors will be able to spoil and victims will be, despite the expired shelf life of rocket fuel. more and more diverse types of weapons are required by the Southeast to deter the enemy.
  15. Yon_Silent
    Yon_Silent 29 May 2014 11: 03
    +12
    Wow! Lottery! The lottery is the use of missiles with expired TRT. Combined fuel decomposes during storage, even despite the tricks of chemists who shove various stabilizers into the mixture. And after a certain time, there is a possibility that cracks may appear in the charge (after transport shocks and vibrations). A crack is an increase in the burning area. Which, in turn, during ignition of the fuel will lead to a pressure jump with subsequent destruction of the structure.
    And here’s an oil painting: the launch rocket is shrouded in soot, a tongue of flame appears on the wall and everything is hidden in a cloud of a poisonous yellow explosion. Including the car of the complex. And this if warhead does not work. So the junta will have a lottery. And to us - an attraction.
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 29 May 2014 11: 41
      +2
      Yon_Silent, "Ukrainian Roulette" wassat laughing
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    3. jjj
      jjj 29 May 2014 11: 59
      +1
      Quote: Jon_ Quiet
      Combined fuel decomposes during storage, even despite the tricks of chemists who shove various stabilizers into the mixture.

      So it happened with the missiles on the boats of the project 941. The new ones were not released, and the old ones ran out of resources. The last missiles were disposed of within the Begemot-2 before the eyes of Western experts. From the volley of the "Shark" they got stupid
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 29 May 2014 12: 55
        0
        Quote: jjj
        Quote: Jon_ Quiet
        Combined fuel decomposes during storage, even despite the tricks of chemists who shove various stabilizers into the mixture.

        So it happened with the missiles on the boats of the project 941. The new ones were not released, and the old ones ran out of resources. The last missiles were disposed of within the Begemot-2 before the eyes of Western experts. From the volley of the "Shark" they got stupid

        .... Yes, a beautiful video was ... In 5 minutes, the entire ammunition was shot ... Nowhere in the world did this ....
    4. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 29 May 2014 12: 50
      0
      Dear Yon or someone from artilleristov.U I have such a question, at one time there was such an ammunition, in my opinion it was called "Krasnopol" with laser guidance. Can I be wrong, do not vzyshite.Can he be at the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine-And how does the guidance system work? As I understand it, someone should illuminate the chel with a laser and is within line of sight?
      1. Yon_Silent
        Yon_Silent 29 May 2014 13: 43
        +1
        Yes you are right.
        For example, the same 3OF39 "Krasnopol" (I quote the technical description 3VOF64.00.TO, the neck is removed) ".. is designed to destroy small-sized ground targets when firing from closed firing positions from artillery systems D-20 and 2S3M when illuminated by a laser designator beam - rangefinder 1D15 ... "
        The same principle of semi-active guidance is used by the Krasnopol-M2 and Kitolov guided mines Gran, Centimeter and Centimeter-2 that are currently in service.
        Such a scheme has its drawbacks, for which we have long scolded it (and in the West, in general, they defiantly turned their nose away). The biggest drawback is the presence of this very LCD. This is such a sickly box that one person will not carry far. Therefore, they are worn by two, in turn. Plus a cover group is also needed. As a result, a group of 5-6 potential "Heroes" is recruited. Plus, before shooting, you need to get in touch in order to synchronize the time (timers at the firing point and in the LCD system must work synchronously)
        And if the object is really guarded in good faith, with sentinel groups and dogs, with drones with IR cameras, with seismic sensors, with LI and radio signal detectors, jammers and other miracles, then the chances of gunners from potential to become real heroes increase posthumously. What can not demoralize. But the disruption of the combat mission is most unpleasant.
  16. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 29 May 2014 11: 05
    0
    Maintaining weapons in good condition and readiness for use is expensive ... and especially highly accurate weapons. Ukraine has not been doing this for a long time ... the accuracy of that ... remains a big question.
  17. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 29 May 2014 11: 06
    +1
    This is evident from the series with which a civilian plane was shot down at one time. High accuracy is amazing. belay
  18. asar
    asar 29 May 2014 11: 08
    0
    You can also shoot through the city with "high-precision and inaccurate" rockets! It is not so important for U.O.d.o. to know where they will go! The main thing is on the "goal"! One hope that they will not "take off" or simply "will not fly"!
  19. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 29 May 2014 11: 13
    0
    Let them just try, then Russia will put an end to the junta.
  20. best_ua
    best_ua 29 May 2014 11: 14
    -2
    And why immediately around the city. There are bases, camps, etc. Remind me, than Dudaev
    hit?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 May 2014 11: 15
      +2
      Quote: best_ua
      And why immediately around the city

      And why now they beat every day on the heels?
      Quote: best_ua
      . Remind me, than Dudaev
      hit?

      What you don’t have for a long time. And if there is anything left in the warehouses, it’s not known where it will fly.
    2. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 29 May 2014 12: 38
      0
      The cost that Dudaev ended up with about 10% of the cost of armored vehicles in Ukraine plus a delivery vehicle and highly trained service personnel. The rocket was aimed at a satellite phone. At the same time, the shooting was from an airplane. Here and figure it out in your spare time, where you will get such money for buying missiles - which one will sell them to you and again the question is in service and combat specialists?
  21. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 29 May 2014 11: 16
    0
    But shmalnut ... (and the State Department will give such permission)
  22. naGua
    naGua 29 May 2014 11: 18
    +1
    If suddenly these parasites start shooting, then let the guidance system fail and the rocket will hit the place of stay of one of the Kiev Fuhrer !!! And if they gather for the next puppet "round table", then right in the center of the table! Then it will be a precision weapon. Only her range is only 120 km. My dreams will not come true: ((
  23. Moore
    Moore 29 May 2014 11: 18
    +2
    Quote: Jon_ Quiet
    A crack is an increase in the burning area. Which, in turn, during ignition of the fuel will lead to a pressure jump with subsequent destruction of the structure.
    And here’s an oil painting: the launch rocket is shrouded in soot, a tongue of flame appears on the wall and everything is hidden in a cloud of a poisonous yellow explosion. Including the car of the complex. And this if warhead does not work. So the junta will have a lottery. And to us - an attraction.

    There is another option: not destruction of the structure, but a change in the combustion mode of the fuel and, as a result, an unregulated (because of the turbojet engine) change in engine thrust. As a result, the product flies anywhere, if there is no self-destruction system.
  24. rassel0889
    rassel0889 29 May 2014 11: 18
    +3
    Thank god there is no atomic weapon! What would it be now ...
    1. CadetXXX
      CadetXXX 29 May 2014 13: 18
      +1
      Ukraine would no longer exist ...
  25. ed65b
    ed65b 29 May 2014 11: 23
    +4
    Yesterday Tsarev announced the loss figure in the southeast that the United States called acceptable, from 1000 to 2000 people, as they said in the United States, the world will tolerate it or not notice it. Will Putin notice?
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 29 May 2014 12: 55
      +1
      From zhezh, creatures! And how will they endure a thousand of their losses ?! Nothing human at all! am
  26. sabakina
    sabakina 29 May 2014 11: 31
    +2
    I really hope that the start (s) of "Points" (if there really are any) will exactly repeat the start of that very "Challenger" shuttle.
  27. Tolerast
    Tolerast 29 May 2014 11: 35
    0
    It’s time to dispose of missiles ... It’s time to dispose of Bender’s ruin.
  28. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 29 May 2014 11: 36
    +1
    UkroAvakova has precise slingshots and a lot of geymaydanavtsy for exact podzhopnogo kick, followed by acceleration to the side where the beaten cup and mikola centurion rests.
  29. BOB044
    BOB044 29 May 2014 11: 38
    +1
    Ukrainian rocket launchers shot down a passenger plane Novosibirsk Israel during exercises. So they are still the arrows. Maybe God will help and they will get to the house of government in Kiev.
  30. sanek0207
    sanek0207 29 May 2014 11: 42
    0
    Avakov is not a man at all, if he gives orders to fight against his people! This is gay!
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 29 May 2014 11: 49
      +1
      Quote: sanek0207
      Avakov is not a man at all, if he gives orders to fight against his people! This is gay!

      For you, it has only now become apparent?
  31. Dbnfkmtdbx
    Dbnfkmtdbx 29 May 2014 11: 45
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    and about the missiles and weapons they were already told, but along the way they didn’t instruct now stupid people to get the full I heard that Avakov with this pervert had already left two bearded guys for the fact that he spat on their main repeat
  32. Bassoon
    Bassoon 29 May 2014 11: 47
    +1
    I hope that these missiles will detonate right in the launchers, causing catastrophic losses to the Bandera rifle
  33. alikalik
    alikalik 29 May 2014 11: 48
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    Apparently the Americans promised some sort of weapon. Not all the time to feed dry. rations and a uniform. But apparently Obama should take into account Russia. These inadequate can also shoot in another place. Then get a retaliatory strike. a moment at the junta? so apart from hail, apparently nothing.
  34. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 29 May 2014 11: 48
    +1
    Samol, which was shot down by the Ukrainians, had on board three serious microbiologists. In that and the previous year they disappeared, died under strange circumstances, committed suicide, etc. about twenty of such specialists around the world. Coincidence?
  35. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 29 May 2014 11: 50
    +1
    Darn-dug !!!! belay How could 3 (THREE) Soviet districts, from the most combat-ready, bring to such a handle! am Okay, maybe they didn’t need so many weapons, they sold it. So, after all, the rest should be supported in a little, little way, if only because nobody will buy rubbish, even blacks in Africa am
    Or do they have generals from those ensigns who all over the Union were sitting in warehouses and bargaining from under the floors with entrusted property? am
    Then only mats, then curl hi
  36. Boricello
    Boricello 29 May 2014 11: 56
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    Here on the militias, they recycle them.
  37. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 29 May 2014 12: 09
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    Boricello (1) KZ Today, 11: 56 New

    Here on the militias, they recycle them. I think it’s unlikely that they will be scared to launch rockets that can fuck ... right at the start, because T.O. hardly anyone had spent these complexes since the times of the USSR .... well, if you crash at the start it’s only for the better, and if by mistake in the rain during the meeting there will be grace in general
  38. Grabberxnumx
    Grabberxnumx 29 May 2014 12: 09
    +5
    Sashko Bely gathered his tribe and speech pushed:
    - MAYDANOVS !!! Are we a great people?
    - DAAAAAA!
    “Then why don't we have a nuclear missile?”
    - Nuuuuu ... Let's build.
    They cut down the healthiest oak, hollowed out the core with axes, prepared the gunpowder according to old recipes of scalped Cossacks, hammered it, nailed the cork, and pulled out a thick rope into the wick.
    - Where will we launch it?
    - on her of course!
    They wrote on the rocket "On her triplets", piled up the whole tribe, set fire to the fuse ... but it is LIKE FUCK $ NO! ... In short, the local armageddon: smoke, fumes, everyone is lying around ... Sashko, without a leg, without an arm, looks around :
    - Nee x $ I imagine ... Imagine what is happening with the masqueals ...
  39. Drednout
    Drednout 29 May 2014 12: 11
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    Quote: Weniamin
    To do this, it is enough to pull the air defense forces grouping towards the Russian-Ukrainian border

    The closest point from the Russian border to Donbass is 67 km.
    It is unlikely that air defense at such a distance can effectively deal with low-flying targets.

    Then only air defense is direct to Donbass. Or preemptive missile cdar at airfields.
  40. mister2013
    mister2013 29 May 2014 12: 23
    +1
    Quote: Weniamin
    To do this, it is enough to pull the air defense forces grouping towards the Russian-Ukrainian border

    The closest point from the Russian border to Donbass is 67 km.
    It is unlikely that air defense at such a distance can effectively deal with low-flying targets.

    S-300 will be freely available, and we have a lot of old missiles - it's time to start ..., to update the BC.
  41. Chaika
    Chaika 29 May 2014 12: 26
    +1
    Do you know how many machine guns we have? Seven! No, six ... One bites, the other bounces like a madman, and the third bastard bullets in his own. And the seventh I secretly from the chieftain ataman traded for these pants.
  42. Leshka
    Leshka 29 May 2014 12: 30
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    it is necessary to show them what a real high-precision weapon is; it is necessary for Iskander to add weight to them and that’s all
  43. marder4
    marder4 29 May 2014 12: 31
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    I hope the engines at their missiles the engines will not work at all or will explode at the start ...
  44. novel68rus
    novel68rus 29 May 2014 12: 37
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    if there is air defense there will be such a stench that rises from the states .. it’s only possible for them to establish no-fly zones after all ..
  45. jovanni
    jovanni 29 May 2014 12: 47
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    So they decided to dispose of them. Together with the people of the South-East, p. Adly!
  46. sergej591910
    sergej591910 29 May 2014 12: 49
    +1
    Not quite right ... During that launch there was an orientation error of the launcher. It's okay, it's just that the operator made a little mistake when orienting ... 180 degrees ... And about the Tochka missiles, everything is very clear: the "youngest" of them were produced in 1989-1990. The shelf life of a solid fuel charge is 10 years. Well, let us throw in another five years (for reinsurers who reduce the warranty period). So count it ... And with such a "stale" charge, amazing, and very unexpected events can occur. For example, missile failure, or rocket explosion in flight (2 - 5 seconds), when the altitude is about 250 - 300 meters, or missile deviation from the course ... Good "Tochka" complex, but already old ... Replace it with dill there is really nothing, if only the overseas ATACMS is 5 - 10 years younger, or buy Iskander-E from Russia, but that's another story ...
  47. Muxalet
    Muxalet 29 May 2014 12: 49
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    Turntables and "GRAD" are already working in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk ... and such little people have also been noticed .. maybe someone knows something about "this"?
    1. kafa
      kafa 29 May 2014 13: 01
      +1
      hard to see but this fag is stamped like a national guardsman
      Amer’s trunk M60 IF NOT A PHOTOSHOP, then some sort of voyage was told to him that he is immortal and not punishable ...
    2. aleks 62
      aleks 62 29 May 2014 13: 18
      +1
      Quote: Muxalet
      Turntables and "GRAD" are already working in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk ... and such little people have also been noticed .. maybe someone knows something about "this"?

      ..Very like a mine-suit (mine sappers use it when clearing mine) .... Although it’s unlikely to help with a machine gun, it will beat everything and break bones ... I think for complacency ... It’s especially impressive how he takes care of his tomatoes :)) ))) .... But they will be soft-boiled ..
  48. Marconi41
    Marconi41 29 May 2014 12: 54
    +1
    Quote: Weniamin
    It is unlikely that air defense at such a distance can effectively deal with low-flying targets.

    Absolutely right! The introduction of a no-fly zone - you can’t do without aviation and AWACS in any way. This means that it is also necessary to suppress air defense facilities of Ukraine. In addition, specialists will have to be introduced to collect intelligence and aim at the target. All this is an adult war. Do not underestimate the enemy. Remember the Georgian company and Ukrainian BUKI there.
    1. Yun Klob
      Yun Klob 29 May 2014 14: 35
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      Maybe one of the volunteers in the TOP garage was lying around?
  49. aleks 62
    aleks 62 29 May 2014 12: 58
    0
    .... What about the suitability of the X-29 ????
  50. maxim
    maxim 29 May 2014 13: 01
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    and if these missiles to buy, instead of paying for gas?
    1. kafa
      kafa 29 May 2014 13: 05
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      sell at the price of Boeing and offer muskets and falconets from museums
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 29 May 2014 18: 37
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      Quote: maxim
      and if these missiles to buy, instead of paying for gas?

      Correctly kafa about the price said!
      If the maydaunas have raised the price of water for Crimea 50 times, then imagine the price of missiles ...
      By the way, after all, recently the Kiev authorities offered a price for gas transit adequate to the amount for gas consumed!
      Combinators!