Slavyansk shelling of howitzers

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According to the information agency "Vesti", The National Guard of Ukraine shelters the city of Slavyansk from howitzers. The villages of Vostochny and Artem came under fire. In Artyom, one of the shells exploded near the student hostel of the pedagogical institute, and in the East houses of civilians were damaged.



There is information about the three victims.

“Shells fell about three or four hundred meters, we did not have enough. We looked, the person was already dead, a mine fell right near the apartment building of the nine-story building, glasses were broken ... The person had a broken head, legs were broken, hands. We drove on to the pedagogical institute, found a dead woman, there too the mine fell, ”said an eyewitness to the events named Roman.

As the agency notes, at the approaches to the city can be heard machine-gun and machine-gun fire. The militias are attacking the positions of the Ukrainian military on Mount Karachun, from where massive shelling is conducted.

“We have a rather lively battle under Semenovka. With Karachun hammering howitzers, our "Nona" firing counterbattery fire. From Seleznevka on our fire mortars, we have two wounded. The infantry (the National Guard under the newly arrived “fresh” and therefore self-confident) is trying to advance to the factories. Our BMD is hitting them - the enemy has losses and something is burning in the forest plant - they detonate the cartridges, ”said Igor Strelkov.

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  1. +12
    27 May 2014 09: 18
    When you fascist cattle all take a break!
    1. +20
      27 May 2014 09: 20
      Quote: siberko
      When you fascist cattle all take a break!

      When they are destroyed.
      1. +4
        27 May 2014 09: 39
        In addition to the offensive, nothing comes to mind. Deaf defense is not the answer that is heard in Kiev. Apart from the language of power, Kiev will not understand anything.
        1. 0
          27 May 2014 10: 20
          Quote: MOISEY
          In addition to the offensive, do not enter your head

          The offensive must be prepared, provided with superior forces and preliminary fire training, otherwise the attackers will suffer heavy losses. In the circumstances in which the militias are located, there can’t be any talk of an offensive. This is an attempt to counterattack in order to capture the dominant heights. And then, I think, in this case, the attackers will suffer serious losses. Now, if Russia had thrown fresh forces.
          1. +5
            27 May 2014 10: 37
            Strelkov. Commander, think about whether to play the stanchion. Under shells, losses will be an order of magnitude greater than when attacking. Moreover, the positions, as I understand it, are completely explored and shot by dill. It may make sense to confiscate Privatbank’s armored cars? Why only national guard rides?
            Secondly, working with MANPADS is now almost useless. Their main purpose is to drive the turntables away from positions, but the mobile (mounted on jeeps) sparks can really be used on approach and when leaving a combat approach and on turntables and aircraft ...
            Good luck! And hold on guys ... We are with you!
            1. 0
              27 May 2014 11: 22
              You forgot something. Strelkov has very few soldiers with good training. They get tired, but they do a lot. If you activate the action, you need to use someone else, and this is an additional loss.
              I would wait in his place for the army to say its angry word to the national guard and other mercenaries.
              1. +3
                27 May 2014 12: 31
                Quote: yehat
                I would wait in his place for the army to say its angry word to the national guard and other mercenaries.


                In the army, officers died out along the way .... one scumbag remained. Therefore, it is not necessary to wait for the word of the army.
                The army (and the mothers of the fighters) will flinch only from heavy losses ...
                But in general .... while I do not see the light at the end of the tunnel ... there are few fighters, there are fewer trained, there are no heavy weapons, there are almost no air defense systems ....
                no night raids, no mining ....
                It looks like the guys were hoping that the Nazis would not conduct "ATO" in the city .... in vain they hoped- Sshaty give the green light, law enforcement officers blindfolded, they will hollow !!!! MLRS Tskhinvali gouged, there are other writers ???
                We will not help in the next day, two or three people and equipment, we will lose SE.
                1. 0
                  27 May 2014 13: 44
                  Quote: Chen
                  It looks like the guys were hoping that the Nazis would not conduct "ATO" in the city

                  I don’t agree. Judging by the video from both sides everything is captured there ... Another thing is that dill doesn’t come too much ... The feeling is that the ATO is carrying out ammunition disposal. Direct, except for the airport, and even that is a big question, the clashes especially not ... Raids on both sides, shelling nowhere and .... normal communication between the riflemen and the army of dill. The punishers of the Nazi Anal Guard ... but they need to be finished off ..
              2. +1
                27 May 2014 13: 39
                Quote: yehat
                Strelkov has very few soldiers with good training.

                I remember everything perfectly. Strelkova is already really soldiers. Not militias but fired soldiers and commanders. And the results of their activities, in particular as air defense, have long been surrendered by local residents to Vtorchermet ...
                You just didn’t carefully read my comment. On the offensive now there can be no question ... This is suicide and everyone understands this. But taking positional fights is stupid ... I talked about mobility of defense. It is about mobility. And how to arrange Strelkov knows better than mine ... dill feel it every day ...
                1. 0
                  27 May 2014 17: 19
                  I support. What is the offensive? It is possible if two armies are fighting. In other cases, the most effective are ambushes and sabotage, otherwise the militias are beaten up in a week.
        2. +3
          27 May 2014 10: 32
          Strelkov already answered this yesterday. How can you attack five times superior, better armed, using enemy aircraft? It is enough to leave the settlement - you will find yourself in the field (there is practically no forest, you cannot hide in the greenhouse), and in the field, under the cover of armor and with air support, the militias will be shot. The militias need a weapon that allows them to conduct normal counter-battery firing. One NONA is not enough, they still do not have air defense systems. It is high time to use landmines. Stop feeling sorry for the army - they don't feel sorry for them.
      2. zzz
        zzz
        0
        27 May 2014 09: 58
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: siberko
        When you fascist cattle all take a break!

        When they are destroyed.


        When they take Karachun. You need to bomb. And stall.
        1. +4
          27 May 2014 10: 04
          Quote: zzz
          When will they take Karachun.

          For complete happiness, it is necessary to gouge a strong point in Izum
      3. +3
        27 May 2014 10: 11
        Igor Strelkov, perhaps the reason for the lack of necessary personnel (volunteers) from Russia is the lack of knowledge of how to get to you across the border? Are there volunteer recruitment points in Russia, if so, where? Do these points facilitate the delivery of volunteers? I think that if such assistance existed, many would have responded to your call in Russia, including officers. By the way, the chief of staff the dog position, I know for myself. This site has personal mail.
        1. +1
          27 May 2014 14: 49
          In the late 30 of the last century, a large number of volunteers fought in Spain. It was honorable and legal inside the USSR; many WWII commanders left it. At the same time, the formation and sending of volunteers can now also be carried out by the state. This is one of the options for assistance in the political situation in which it does not have the ability to help regular forces. If the oligarchs of Ukraine can form their own gang formations, battalions, then why can’t this be done by Russia. Having received certain guarantees and benefits, volunteers will confidently complete the task.
    2. +12
      27 May 2014 09: 23
      Soon. Now their new Fuhrer will get down to business now and believe everything already completely.
      ps And at this time in the Kherson region;

      Around 220, the servicemen of the Ukrainian army were sent to the dermatovenerologic dispensary after a “rest” with two residents of the Kherson region. This is the portal "Novoros.info".

      According to the newspaper, the SBU is now trying to identify two residents of the village of Lyubimovka, Kherson region, who "organized the leisure" of Ukrainian soldiers.

      As a result of the "rest" to 220, the soldiers were referred for treatment at the dermatovenerologic dispensary diagnosed with gonorrhea.

      http://lenta.ru/
      1. +6
        27 May 2014 09: 43
        Now the FSB, the GRU, and personally Putin will be accused of the fact that the preser ... you were full of holes laughing
        1. +1
          27 May 2014 11: 23
          Quote: maxbrov74
          About 220 servicemen of the Ukrainian army were sent to the skin and venereologic dispensary after "rest" with two residents of the Kherson region.

          The lads skilfully turned away from the war. And then everything: "banderva", "mentally handicapped" ... laughing
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      3. +9
        27 May 2014 09: 51
        It seems ours invented a new, venereological weapon. What insidiousness! lol
      4. +3
        27 May 2014 09: 57
        Quote: maxbrov74
        Around 220, the servicemen of the Ukrainian army were sent to the dermatovenerologic dispensary after a “rest” with two residents of the Kherson region. This is the portal "Novoros.info".


        A secret bacteriological weapon of mass destruction was used. laughing
      5. olf_1959
        +5
        27 May 2014 10: 07
        Nevermind, the heifers are working, according to Stakhanovsky.
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      7. +2
        27 May 2014 10: 16
        Fine! Bacteriological weapon worked laughing Guilty, of course, Putin.
      8. bif
        +7
        27 May 2014 10: 22
        Quote: maxbrov74
        As a result of the "rest" to 220, the soldiers were referred for treatment at the dermatovenerologic dispensary diagnosed with gonorrhea.

        Like in a joke ...
        Father instructs his son before leaving for the resort:
        - You son there carefully. The girls are walking now, they have all kinds of diseases. Be careful. God forbid to catch any infection. When you come home, you infect your wife, she - me, I - mother. But you know our mother - the whole village will die out ..
    3. +2
      27 May 2014 09: 25
      Living creatures themselves - never ...
    4. +3
      27 May 2014 09: 33
      Cattle are slaughtered in the fall, but fascist cattle and in the off-season should be wet with an accelerated method.
      1. +4
        27 May 2014 09: 41
        elections have passed. now we will see the true face of Ukrainian democracy, implanted by a Jewish oligarch-president, installed and supported by "the most democratic America" ​​and tolerant-cultural Europe ... Ukraine, maybe we are in vain here groaning at you? Is this your real choice?
    5. +3
      27 May 2014 09: 50
      Quote: siberko
      When you fascist cattle all take a break!

      Statements, warnings, exhortations only excite them. Never before would this ... have felt such impunity, such support for their Russophobic aspirations. If you do not disappoint them in this, no gas billions will be enough to launder.
    6. 0
      27 May 2014 09: 58
      these do not read our site, so your emotions are empty, something sensible and for us please
      1. bif
        +7
        27 May 2014 10: 30
        Quote: fleks
        something sensible and for us please

        "On May 11, a plane arrived at the Kiev airport in strict secrecy, which was met by the military, not the airport staff. The military uniform of the NATO model, 500 packs of amphetamines and containers marked with toxic substances were unloaded from the plane. At the direction of the Kiev SBU department, the fighters, the cargo and containers with chemical weapons were not searched and left the airport building in cars with tinted windows. The cargo was accompanied by US CIA officer Richard Michael. On the arrived board were militants from the "Right Sector" and the Polish private military company ASBS Othago (Analizy Systemowe Bartlomiej Sienkiewicz) created several years ago by the current Minister of Internal Affairs of Poland B. Sienkiewicz ...
        The answer to the question of what the United States needs in eastern Ukraine is simple: the cities that the junta is desperately trying to subjugate are located in the Dnieper-Donetsk basin with huge reserves of shale gas. These plots have already been staked out by Royal Dutch Shell. "In this case, the regime that came to power after the coup d'etat in Kiev is using military action against its own residents for economic reasons. They are determined to benefit from the contracts signed by the previous government," says international expert from the United States Neboisha Malic.
        The son of US Vice President Robert Hunter Biden, who has recently fueled Kiev, recently joined the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, the largest privately owned gas producer in Ukraine, registered in Cyprus and has permission to develop fields in the Dnieper-Donets Basin. In April, Devon Archer, a friend of the family of the US Secretary of State, took a place in the leadership of this company, sharing a dormitory room with Kerry's stepson during university years, and during the presidential race in the USA in 2004, he became a senior adviser to John Kerry.
        The first persons of the United States and their closest relatives have a great selfish interest in all countries where the American occupation forces have invaded since the wars against Yugoslavia and Iraq. For example, Kerry's predecessor as Secretary of State Madeleine Albright has a business in "independent Kosovo", Biden's predecessor as Vice President Richard Cheney and his family, as well as another former US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice through Halliburton and Chevron to the energy resources of Iraq. ..For example, the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings includes ex-Minister of Environment of Ukraine Mykola Zlochevsky and former President of Poland Alexander Kwasniewski.
        One of the potential shale gas fields, the development right of which was given to Burisma Holdings, is the Yuzovskaya shale field. In addition to Sloviansk and a part of neighboring Kramatorsk with a population of 160 thousand people, the site transferred to Shell includes the cities of Krasny Luch and Svyatogorsk, located in the Donetsk region, as well as Balakleya and Izium in the neighboring Kharkov region. Moreover, the contract for the production of shale gas is drawn up in such a way that the Ukrainian authorities are obliged to forcibly seize the property of the rightful owners if Shell declares that it is going to drill on the lands belonging to them. The area where the first gas wells will be drilled has been defined in the vicinity of Slavyansk ... It is around Slavyansk and Kramatorsk that the most violent clashes between punitive forces and the population of Donbass take place, and Izium is the main base of the Ukrainian troops participating in the punitive operation ... "and so on.
        http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/reports/view/90794/
  2. +17
    27 May 2014 09: 18
    seriously, this is an unequal battle, Strelkov chose the path of Che, first Cuba, Strelkov Crimea, then Che Bolivia, Strelkov Slavyansk, just as Che has no external support, will the fate coincide completely?
    1. +7
      27 May 2014 09: 46
      Quote: saag
      Shooters chose the path of Che,

      It seems to me that the analogy is far-fetched. Strelkov, in my opinion, is a good commander, officer, competent tactician, whose task is to keep the junta at the established lines, to launch a yushka for them, to reduce arrogance. This is a man of the battlefield, not a tribune. A soldier, not a politician, as opposed to Che. He was a mediocre field commander, but a good speaker, a people's tribune.
      If Che were in Novorossia now, all the necessary state institutions would have been created, the people would have risen — tens of thousands of people with weapons in their hands. But Che they don’t have, well, at least the Strelok was found.
      1. +2
        27 May 2014 09: 55
        No, in Cuba Fidel was the engine and creator of everything, Che had in his backswing
    2. Ural guys
      +1
      27 May 2014 13: 12
      Well, why is there no support ?! All RUSSIA is behind him, and Che Guevara had only Cuba.
      So everything is fine. It is unlikely that anyone realizes the actual tactics and configuration now, and if it is, how it was carried out and who carried it out, we can probably find out in 50-70 years.
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  3. +15
    27 May 2014 09: 19
    Bastard Poroshenko in order to get a loan from the IMF (it will spend it, and Ukrainians will pay it) -will demolish SE.
    For this is the condition of the IMF.
  4. Khalmamed
    +7
    27 May 2014 09: 19
    ..... KEEP THE WAR, FOR LIGHT FOR FREEDOM STAND !!!
  5. +9
    27 May 2014 09: 20
    Oh, the militias, at least a couple of howitzers, at least you can answer ...
    1. +15
      27 May 2014 09: 27
      Quote: Russ69
      Oh, the militias, at least a couple of howitzers, at least you can answer ..


      Yes, here it is. How many weapons are gathering dust in our warehouses, let the fascists beat the children. Weapons can be helped.
      1. Gavrilych
        +5
        27 May 2014 09: 45
        It can be not only a weapon. I read that Gorno-Altaisk sent Putin an open letter asking him not to ban the organization of the formation of volunteer groups. Mercenaries are fighting on the other side, and why not be with it.
      2. -6
        27 May 2014 09: 56
        Forgive me for the impudence, but our state has no right to "distribute" weapons.
        Moreover, it is unknown to anyone supporting the military conflict.
        International laws, you know!
        Here amers are also asked to put MANPADS in Syria, they oh how they want, but they can’t.
        And we just-oh, how we want to share with them, but we have no right.
        Only illegally we can, and if they burn the pitchfork.
        1. lg41
          +1
          27 May 2014 10: 26
          A few days ago in Starobelsk, the Kiev junta freed the prisoners and gave them weapons to destroy local residents. The intermediate goal is achieved by the people of Kiev.
        2. +2
          27 May 2014 10: 27
          Yeah, they don’t want to .. They just understand that mattress planes will be shot down from MANPADS, there are plenty of bases in the Middle East, or there are such distances there that you can take any airfield to the military, that civilian, so think what will happen if you fail Boeing or F15 on takeoff and landing .. Only on this in Syria are few MANPADS ..
        3. +1
          27 May 2014 10: 37
          What pitchfork? What are you speaking about? The United States is supplying its weapons left and right, and they do not care about the world community. The USSR, in its former majesty, also helped friendly countries. The question of supplies should certainly be hidden, and not blow the whole world, that we are the heroes who are supplying the DNI with weapons. The support of the guns, in my opinion, is necessary now for the southeast, otherwise they will be defeated by the khan, as they wrote here, a defensive defense. Meanwhile, the southeast is a buffer zone between us and NATO.
      3. +4
        27 May 2014 10: 11
        I watched Strelkov’s interview .... the families of our volunteers in Russia do not even have anyone to help .. sad
        1. +2
          27 May 2014 11: 07
          We are a whole Russia. Won't we help you? Let him say how to do it.
      4. +1
        27 May 2014 10: 32
        Why do they need howitzers? Better for a pair of "Buratin" and "Hurricanes", there will be much more sense than from howitzers and one air defense system Buk M1-2 is possible))), otherwise, something dill flew on their semi-live turntables)
        1. +1
          27 May 2014 10: 40
          But what about civilians? And there are no goals for such weapons striking over large areas. The junta will be sorted out sooner or later, and civilians should not suffer.
          1. 0
            27 May 2014 10: 55
            Nobody says about civilians, why are there no goals? The position of the National Guard howitzers, in addition, this MLRS allows not all shells for a salvo to produce something. And at the expense of goals, I'm sorry, you're wrong. The purpose of this complex: the defeat of open and sheltered manpower;
            unarmored, lightly armored and armored vehicles of motorized infantry and tank companies;
            artillery units;
            tactical missiles;
            anti-aircraft systems;
            helicopters in parking lots;
            command posts;
            communication centers;
            objects of the military-industrial structure.
            So just that.
            1. defend
              0
              27 May 2014 11: 18
              I agree that from such an installation it is possible to gasp for howitzers quite well, immediately shut up and forget how to shoot at civilians with howitzers
      5. 0
        27 May 2014 11: 50
        Donetsk and Lugansk regions are quite large. And military art. parts with warehouses should be. Really Ukrainians in due time drank everything and drank not scrap metal.
  6. +6
    27 May 2014 09: 23
    Yes, the militias urgently need to find a couple of self-propelled guns in the warehouses. They began to roll out the Southeast, in a hurry before entering the throne.
    1. +1
      27 May 2014 10: 39
      "Shilok" would be heels or two - both for air defense and as a light self-propelled gun can be used quite well.
      1. +1
        27 May 2014 11: 32
        And TOS-1, for every "fireman".
      2. 0
        27 May 2014 11: 32
        And TOS-1, for every "fireman".
  7. +7
    27 May 2014 09: 25
    They would flounder around the Security Service and the General Staff, and in addition to the mattress consulate in Kiev, then they would understand right away, and to no purpose .... We need to track from where to scorch and cover with hail ...
    1. +3
      27 May 2014 10: 30
      For a long time I suggested ... to shy away and pretend to be a rag like you have such a mess, we don’t have to figure it out here, but they don’t understand the following ones that will replace the ones who left to organize the same thing .. Two three such events and those who want to steer will end ..
    2. +1
      27 May 2014 10: 48
      I absolutely agree, otherwise the chocolate "hare" felt a little too confident, I wonder how long he will run away just like Yanukovych escaped
  8. +3
    27 May 2014 09: 26
    Purely reports from the fronts, it’s time for New Russia to have acquired serious equipment
    1. defend
      0
      27 May 2014 11: 19
      It is high time! And then after all, how much do they perish in vain
  9. +5
    27 May 2014 09: 27
    "Eh, to the militia, at least a couple of howitzers, at least it will be possible to answer ..." or better the 240-mm self-propelled mortar 2S4 "Tulip"
    1. +1
      27 May 2014 10: 52
      "Tulip" - the fool is sickly healthy, you can hide it. For "Nona" they would have decent ammunition, active-reactive 3OF50 - then you can shoot at 12 km. But there, and with ammunition, along the way, strained, especially not shoot.
  10. +14
    27 May 2014 09: 27
    seriously it is an unequal battle ..... I would not say that.

    At the moment, STRELKOV is skillfully using the stupidity of law enforcement officers as an unprofessional military ... hence the great losses suffered by law enforcement officers, Ukrainians.army officers for the most part are not eager to lay down their heads for the ideas of law enforcement officers and distance themselves from military operations .... this is good.

    The more pravosek will be chopped into meat the cleaner the air will be in the world from this shit .. ma.

    For some reason, I see the other side of the coin of this war ... it seems that at the moment one of the politicians of UKRAINE pushing pravosek in the meat grinder wants to simultaneously get rid of dangerous fellow travelers and at the same time weaken the SOUTH-EAST due to human losses and the collapse of the economy ... ..in general, this process is in full swing.
    1. 0
      27 May 2014 09: 47
      Yes, war is such a thing. Someone is hungry for blood. Someone earns money. Someone is trying to set Russia up. And someone defends their homeland. In any case, people die. The goals are different - the result is one.
    2. lg41
      0
      27 May 2014 10: 28
      M. Thatcher: "On the territory of the USSR, the residence of 15 million people is economically justified."
  11. +2
    27 May 2014 09: 28
    The Nazis apparently decided that if they did not succeed in holding the South-East, they would destroy it as much as possible, svO / L / O / chi ...
  12. +3
    27 May 2014 09: 30
    And where are the factories for the repair of military equipment, not in the Donbass?
    Or Kharkov?
    Here it is necessary to take it into your own hands, not a specialist, but I think there are competent hands, a couple of at least bring to mind ... and there are hundreds of them ...
  13. +17
    27 May 2014 09: 32
    Until the men of the South-East change their smartphones for automatic machines, until then nothing will change. God forbid, 4 out of 2 million of the population are fighting, and the rest are collecting "likes" on the Internet, so the massacre is taking place. Everything that happens is the same principle of the West "humiliate the weak, finish lying and do not touch the strong", but when the junta sees that the population of Donbass has really risen, you can be sure that their" courage "will diminish.
  14. +2
    27 May 2014 09: 33
    At the moment, STRELKOV is skillfully using the stupidity of law-enforcement officers as an unprofessional military ... it seems that at the moment one of the politicians of UKRAINE pushing law-enforcement officers into a meat grinder wants to simultaneously get rid of dangerous companions in this way and at the same time weaken Southeast due to human losses and the collapse of the economy. ..
    SS troops also began German, as well as the right-wing Nazi Guard. But politicians in Kiev are too small and stupid. Wool for such plans, rather the guys from Fashington whisper what to do.
    1. +3
      27 May 2014 09: 45
      .... Tim Ripley - History of the SS troops .....

      This book very well describes how the SS was created and how it ended.

      And if Ukrainians. Nazis decided to take this path, then I do not envy the people of UKRAINE ..... concentration camps and prisons for political prisoners there will be commonplace.
  15. COLUN
    +3
    27 May 2014 09: 35
    Quote: siberko
    When you fascist cattle all take a break!


    These creatures only to hang !!!
    And in public!
    A more humane Alternative - to the forehead with a nail from a pneumatic gun!
  16. Rubmolot
    +5
    27 May 2014 09: 35
    The anthill exists as long as the queen lives in it.

    The royal uterus can be found and removed from the anthill, but if you do not want to tear up an ant nest, make a mixture of sugar and borax and pour it on the path, insects will quickly take this treat to the uterus, after which it will die, and with it the whole kingdom.
    soldier
    1. lars
      +4
      27 May 2014 10: 04
      "Royal womb" is not in Ukraine.
  17. 0
    27 May 2014 09: 38
    The National Guard of Ukraine shells the city of Slavyansk from howitzers ...
    In Artem, one of the shells exploded next to the student dormitory

    I don't understand this "intimidation strategy."
    Why are they fighting against civilians if they want to live in one state?
    So they don’t want to.
    1. zzz
      zzz
      +3
      27 May 2014 10: 08
      Quote: MainBeam
      I don't understand this "intimidation strategy."
      Why are they fighting against civilians if they want to live in one state?
      So they don’t want to.


      They do not need people in SE. They need territory. That is the whole answer.
  18. IvanT
    0
    27 May 2014 09: 39
    Quote: Russ69
    Oh, the militias, at least a couple of howitzers, at least you can answer ...


    Yes, they and "Nona" normally shoot back))) Only it is not clear where the arty has so many shells ???? It's not the first day they've been shooting back!
  19. +2
    27 May 2014 09: 40
    it’s unfortunate that they decided to go by force in Kiev, but they all decided they would roll the east. According to the latest reports, they went to VaBank and the forces were not comic.
  20. +5
    27 May 2014 09: 44
    Something I can’t believe that there are not any channels to plant more serious weapons in New Russia. Maybe there is no desire to do this?
  21. sidprokaznik
    0
    27 May 2014 09: 44
    While someone will think that his hut is on the edge and this massacre will continue.
  22. +2
    27 May 2014 09: 51
    Quote: Zomanus
    Yes, the militia urgently needs to find a couple of self-propelled guns in the warehouses

    Well, they took off the T-34-85 pedestal in Lugansk, even started it, only there is no ammunition, and you can weld the screens from the armature onto the tower, the frontal slope and the engine compartment and you can fight :-)
    1. +1
      27 May 2014 12: 33
      Quote: saag
      and you can fight :-)


      Whose air ???? How much will he fight?
  23. Dbnfkmtdbx
    +3
    27 May 2014 09: 54
    It may be enough to cheat people with such messages, for what? So already the chapel! Maybe it’s time to give an order and cover up this VATHANALIYA with the Western Ukrainians, and if the Amerikosy decide to intervene with BLUE Europe, then they got bent angry
  24. Chapovsky
    +1
    27 May 2014 09: 56
    fish rots from the head. you need to take your head, correctly so that there is no ... health, but only fear and horror for your own skin
  25. 0
    27 May 2014 09: 59
    Apparently, nothing human was left in the heads of the Ukrainian military if artillery fire was fired on residential areas.
  26. +3
    27 May 2014 10: 05
    I see many are of the opinion why they do not create people's militias, why there is no clandestine supply of weapons from Russia. All this, I am sure, is already being created, there is no need to introduce the people's militia (mass) yet. Now there is a small group of Doncek and Lugansk militias, they have enough weapons, I saw Igla MANPADS and Fagot ATGM, and of course small arms of different calibers. Few professional teams are much more effective than commanding large teams, some of which were "hastily" trained volunteers. Therefore, in my opinion, the current field commanders of Novorossiya are in control of the situation and believe that they have enough strength to drive out the enemy in the form of Nat. guard and others.
  27. 0
    27 May 2014 10: 08
    Quote: Victor-M
    Until the men of the South-East change their smartphones for automatic machines, until then nothing will change. God forbid, 4 out of 2 million of the population are fighting, and the rest are collecting "likes" on the Internet, so the massacre is taking place. Everything that happens is the same principle of the West "humiliate the weak, finish lying and do not touch the strong", but when the junta sees that the population of Donbass has really risen, you can be sure that their" courage "will diminish.

    that’s how it is, only that to make a million unarmed citizens of the population go head-on to the Ukrainian Army needs a very strong motivation. while there is none. and a thousand volunteers are fighting from the force. the rest are waiting for the Russian troops to free them.
    1. +2
      27 May 2014 10: 44
      Quote: leytenant
      so it’s so, only here in order to make a million unarmed citizens of the population go head-on to the Ukrainian Army, a very strong motivation is needed. while there is none. and a thousand volunteers are fighting from the force. the rest are waiting for the Russian troops to free them.

      And what motivation is needed for someone who is intentionally killed to start defending himself? If this is not a reason for them to take up arms, then for what then to send Russian troops?
  28. +1
    27 May 2014 10: 10
    Quote: mackonya
    New Russia control the situation and believe that they have enough strength to force the enemy out of the borders of New Russia in the form of Nat. Guard and others.

    Reality is a little different
    1. 0
      27 May 2014 10: 23
      The main cities of Donetsk and Lugansk are under the control of militia forces, strategic nodes are Kramatorsk and Slavyansk too. Attacks Nat. guards beat off the forces of the militia of New Russia. Or am I mistaken, because I follow the news and of course I am not a direct witness to these events, if you have other information, then please indicate.
  29. Aleksandr65
    +3
    27 May 2014 10: 11
    On the first channel: "The Russian Foreign Ministry has requested full information on the situation in Donetsk in the OSCE."
    Bravo, Russia! The OSCE is being asked about the situation in the Russian world. Ask more at the UN, UNESCO, Freedome house, etc. Probably, the calls and letters from the Donetsk people, about which Peskov informed Putin "in real time", have ceased - you see, it’s better. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin turns into Boris Nikolaevich Putin. Goes to the fate of Milosevic, who also did not help the Serbs of Bosnia, but still ended up in The Hague. And Putin has crimes, hoo: occupation, deportation, the collapse of the Ukrainian economy, violations of all human rights and property, etc., etc. And after all, no one will intercede. And he will not oppose Bolotnaya. Well, he chose his own path.
  30. -1
    27 May 2014 10: 13
    Well, okay, Russia cannot help with weapons, but China can easily cope with it. They also have interests in Ukraine. They were thrown there, and there are risks of losing the business that is still alive. We need shells of the Krasnopol type and a couple of dozen UAVs of at least a short range. They could just wage an effective fight against howitzers and mortars destroying their crews. Terrain reconnaissance also plays an essential role. It would help China to rivet UAVs like wet two fingers, if they decided to oppose US policy together.
  31. +2
    27 May 2014 10: 13
    What gas discounts can be, I don’t understand. Or is resource trading above all?
    1. Aleksandr65
      0
      27 May 2014 10: 51
      Obviously, yes.
  32. +1
    27 May 2014 10: 16
    And here we are starting to move
    According to the ministry, at about 3.30 (4.30 Moscow time) on May 27, border guards noticed a convoy of several trucks, cars and minibuses moving from Russia towards the state border of Ukraine. “At 3.40 (4.40 Moscow time), the convoy crossed the state border, where it was met with fire by a border guard. A battle ensued. The violators, leaving the cover group, broke through to Ukraine in the direction of Anthracite.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140527/1009515951.html#ixzz32tTr3Pqz
  33. +7
    27 May 2014 10: 36
    True for us
  34. shah_I_mat
    +7
    27 May 2014 11: 00
    From the network:

    Alexander Borodai, Prime Minister of the DPR, fights with his militias

    The DNR militia from Donetsk writes:

    "Withdrew from the battle for the second time. Today. We have a mess! The creatures are working from helicopters (automatic cannons), grenade launchers and mortars! We have no small losses. Huge civilian casualties and damaged city infrastructure."
    The best part of today is that the Prime Minister was shoulder to shoulder with us in battle. This is a real man! The commander is at war. Life was worth living to be with such people at this time!
    That's cool! I feel a symbiosis of pride that I was near at that moment with such people, and at the same time I hate those who tremble with their tongues simply. It is visible who and what is worth.
    Trumpet everywhere about what is happening! In all languages ​​you know!
    They are killing us!
    But we will hold out! "
  35. 0
    27 May 2014 11: 05
    In "KP" there is an interview with Igor Strelkov
    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26235.5/3117890/

    In it, he actually asks for help to the families of the militias. The question is how?
    1. +2
      27 May 2014 14: 38
      Let Strelkov himself give the account or name of the organization on the territory of Russia, which will distribute assistance to the families of the living and the dead, to whom and how they will figure it out without publicizing the names.
  36. +2
    27 May 2014 11: 07
    Good luck Shooter!
  37. +4
    27 May 2014 11: 49
    While the Americans will dominate the Eurasian space, Russia will stand in the corner in the role of a punished boy, and beg for its money, which was taken by a bad uncle.
  38. Ural guys
    0
    27 May 2014 14: 55
    Летательной техники тоже в Новороссии достаточно http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0
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    %BC%D1%83%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%B9_(%D0%9B%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA)
  39. 0
    27 May 2014 15: 14
    and in the cities of the Lugansk and Donetsk republics themselves there are no military units that have tanks and artillery in their armaments? if there are such units, disarm them by force and take equipment for themselves. which one will do for battle.
  40. 0
    28 May 2014 02: 39
    Military science requires first of all to "close the air" - to stop the enemy's mastery in the air, and then to "get" the enemy's artillery positions, regularly destroy their combat crews, and it will become easier to fight with the enemy's "toothless" infantry. So far, we are observing "therapeutic" methods of struggle on the part of the militia. Probably not enough strength, and determination.