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About wolves in sheep's clothing

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We are doing the right thing, so severely punishing nationalists of all stripes and colors. They are the best helpers of our enemies and the worst enemies of their own nations. After all, the nationalists' cherished dream is to split the Soviet Union into separate “national” states, and then it will become easy prey for enemies. The peoples inhabiting the Soviet Union, for the most part, will be physically exterminated, the rest will turn into dumb and pathetic slaves of the conquerors.
J. Stalin



Reading recently various patriotic and pro-Russian sites and materials, I noticed that in the general stream of opinions emanating from completely different levels of culture, incomes and education of people, very “interesting” streams began to appear. No, they no longer call for organizing Maidan in Moscow and do not deny the mass manifestations of Nazism in Ukraine. For a start, I will let you know what they are all about, what are their main theses.

1) Considering yourself to be Russian nationalists. But nationalists are very sophisticated sense, as discussed below.

2) Focusing on the issue of illegal immigration and ethnic crime. It is not known how (and by whom) statistics are calculated, according to which migrants are guilty of the bulk of thefts, rape and the fact that there are so many people of non-Slavic appearance (although the latter is doubtful not only as a fact, but also as a complaint). It is postulated that these migrants occupy places in kindergartens, schools and at work, bring their culture here and interfere with Russian life.

3) The rejection of the Soviet Union, they say, was ruled by the USSR by Jews and Georgians, that the Russian genocide was carried out, that the Russian people suffered and finally got rid of the "liquid communis".

4) The same rhetoric goes to modern Russia. Yes, they are destroying Russians again, the authorities want to settle the country with migrants, Russians are oppressed and dissatisfied, visa regime with the countries of Central Asia is required. Optional: it is necessary to separate the North Caucasus.

5) And everything would be fine, you say, but the most dangerous thing is that these people do not identify themselves with the Maidan and the State Department. They reverently honor Russian heroes, especially those who fought in Chechnya and in the South in general, identify with much of what is dear to us, but add “Russian nationalism” to this. Yes, the nationalists went to the Donbass, the Russians fought against the Chechens in Chechnya (and not part of the Chechens against multinational Russia), the Russian nationalists won the Great Patriotic War too (yes, the Russians took the brunt, but did the nationalists?).

6) And finally, the same idea is carried out as that of the Manezhka 2014 - this power is anti-Russian, it needs to be changed, perhaps, as a continuation of the “Russian Spring”.

What are the conclusions from this? This is the most important part of my message. Yes, in Russia there are problems exacerbated by illegal (or excessive) migration, yes, the power is not ideal and the Russian people are really great. But after all their rhetoric is based on it! After all, she is not in money, but in truth. I added a bit of truth to the absolute nonsense - and it doesn’t look that simple (just like in Crimea :)).

Surely some readers in life have some problems, for example, they did not go to university, they were fired from work, the son is studying for three, and his daughter 14 has had condoms dropped out of the bag. Surely your family also shared a teaspoon of oil for a week in the nineties of a child, as, for example, one time was in my family.

If you are old enough, remember your rage and anger when our planes and ships sawed, destroyed factories and sold for a penny, when they demolished everything that our ancestors created, finally, when they bombed the country, for which almost a hundred years ago the Russian people entered into an unprecedented cruelty battle. Is this really the fault of the migrants? If yes, then the article is better for you not to read, you cannot be helped by anything, only mass executions will save the Motherland. Joke. In this case, even they will not help.

And all this would be meaningless if it were not for the possibility of a constructive based on the above. What, in my opinion, it is necessary or not necessary to do the authorities and all of us.

It is useless to put the soul in a dispute with such characters. If you have time, then you can show that he is wrong, only not to him, but to the public. He most likely does not give a damn about both immigrants and Russia, he just makes money. And you, entering into a meaningless dispute, money, on the contrary, most likely, will lose. And most importantly, what is not needed is to breed espionage and enclose everything. This is especially true of the state, since if, for example, it toughens the responsibility for calling for the overthrow of power, then these people will simply go underground, will use the Feney and change tactics.

Now that is necessary. It would be wrong to treat equally paid provocateurs and honestly mistaken people. In order to facilitate the identification of one or another type of interlocutor, as an experienced user of the network, I can advise the following. Signs of an apparent provocateur and troll - recently created accounts, a small number of friends, the use of templates and obviously not written texts, so-called. "copy-paste", and, the most reliable, is the date of adding the first avatar chronologically, if the dialogue goes on in social networks. For camouflage, you can upload many photos, but the date of the first one cannot be faked. It is necessary to "shoot" such trolls mercilessly - ban, ignore, complain in support.

You can carry on a dialogue with honestly mistaken (or not with such obvious provocateurs). After all, remember - if we just get rid of such agitators, then for people with an unstable life position it will look like persecution for the truth, and in general, how will we be different from the Kiev junta?

The authorities need, firstly, to solve the problem with migrants (for example, by introducing limits on the number of visiting workers for different enterprises and conducting a test on basic working skills) in order to deprive the arguments of such "patriots" of power, and secondly, conduct a program to improve the image of the inhabitants of the Caucasus and Central Asia, forcing honest hard workers to distance themselves from hooligans and criminals, informing the population about the benefits of labor migration and, for example, promoting cultural figures who do not incite ethnic strife and propagandize others zhbu peoples.

The same work should be carried out with representatives of other nations, explaining that the Slavs are not their enemies, and that if anyone has a negative attitude towards southerners, it is only because some of the newcomers behave in an inappropriate way. Let everyone remember how we together restored the country after the Civil War, how we beat the fascists, launched a satellite and roasted under the sun of Afghanistan.
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  1. wolfhunter2035
    wolfhunter2035 26 May 2014 09: 19
    -1
    Yes, transplant these nationalists! and even better to shoot for the State. cheating! All people are equal, everyone is the same! No bad nations! there are bad people!
    1. zao74
      zao74 26 May 2014 10: 01
      +12
      It is not necessary to plant, but to send from the "unloved rashka" is necessary! Let them go where they feel better.
      1. rereture
        rereture 26 May 2014 10: 23
        +10
        Just the same nationalists do not want to go anywhere, but they want to improve what is. Moreover, I have not seen a single Russian nationalist who would speak so disrespectfully about the country.
        1. smile
          smile 26 May 2014 15: 04
          +4
          rereture
          There are all kinds of nationalists - but who sets the tone among them? I suppose everyone saw how they waved rags with a swastika, everyone remembers how they, in the same ranks as white-bellies and pederasts, shouted the same slogans on the swamp. They are ready to be friends with anyone just to dump the bad anti-Russian power .... And then what? What then? And then we’ll cover everything with a burgundy hat, that's what then ....
          They incite all non-Russian peoples against us, many of them often demand to get rid of the "ballast" in the form of the Caucasus ... yeah, and their admirers forget that when they were bringing down the Union, many also yelled about ballast ... and we have 21 national republics ... so in the end what are they calling for? To the dismemberment of Russia. Are these their attempts to "improve"? Yes, I saw such improvements in the coffin of the white slippers. This is one of our most dangerous enemies.
          The article is magnificent and there would be more of them.
          1. rereture
            rereture 26 May 2014 16: 09
            +4
            So maybe there is a problem in the Caucasus? Maybe people don't like ethnic crime from the Caucasus? Maybe people don't like "the deceased stabbed himself in the heart 20 times with a knife"? Maybe you don't like what kind of self-defense against "the face of Caucasian nationality" is given in Article 282? Maybe you don't like the Lezginka in the yard in the middle of the night? Maybe people are tired of shooting wedding convoys?

            Don't you think that the Caucasus and the migrants themselves turn people against themselves? Why doesn't anyone shout "Down with Tatarstan?" Or why don't the nationalists shout "enough to feed the Far East"?

            By the way, why do you exclude the possibility that non-Russian peoples can set up the Russian majority against themselves? For example, not by accepting our culture, not respecting our culture.
            1. smile
              smile 26 May 2014 17: 33
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              rereture
              Of course, people from the Caucasus earn their image themselves. And about. And I do not exclude anything - these are your fantasies that you generated only to make it more convenient for me to object.
              And if you think that the nationalists, having achieved the country of happiness - having dismembered Russia, will stop, then you are very mistaken, or you are not paying attention to their leaders and the active part of the supporters. After the Caucasus, a new enemy will appear. do not doubt. And generally speaking. strange arguments you have - under the guise of the fact that Caucasians are not good, populist tare-bars breeding on this basis, did the nationalists calmly shoulder to shoulder with the other marshes, what did they achieve and are doing it? That's right-maydauna in our country, its dismemberment and the destruction as a result .... see. Do you think that from this the Russian nation will immediately rise and flourish?
              Maybe you shouldn’t go for cheap slogans and think about where you are being led, and who is leading, eh?
              1. rereture
                rereture 26 May 2014 17: 46
                +1
                None of the nationalists (sane, not those who throw ridges and arrange "Maidan") does not seek the dismemberment of the country. We are seeking only the recognition of our rights to self-determination, like any other nation. Why are there no words “Russian nation” anywhere, in any document in our country? Why is the right of nations to self-determination spelled out in the constitutions of national republics, while Russians are denied this? Do we not have the right to self-determination? Or do you think that the unresolved Russian question will help build a strong state?

                What Russophobian Wikipedia says about this:
                Over the years, Vestnik Rossiiskoi Akademii Nauk noted an almost universal oppression of Russians by titular ethnic groups in the former Soviet republics [94] and in some administrative formations of Russia [95], where the grave condition of the Russian ethnic group [96] [97] was also indicated.

                In the late 1980s and early 1990s, the so-called “ethnic boom” arose in Russia, which was marked by a surge of xenophobic sentiments and nationalism among representatives of “titular” groups in relation to Russians, which resulted in a number of republics of the North Caucasus, in Yakutia, Tuva, Gorny Altai, Bashkiria, Tatarstan and others to discriminate against the "non-titular", mainly the Russian population, and its outflow to other regions [98].

                The most visible manifestation of such nationalism was discrimination in appointments in national republics within Russia. Almost everywhere in these regions, the top layer of appointees is made up exclusively of representatives of the titular nation [99] [100]. The same problem arises when entering universities. In a number of national republics, a “radicalization” of the school actually took place with the displacement of the Russian language and teaching in the language of the titular nation. So, in Tatarstan the Tatar language is allocated 6 hours a week, Russian - 4 [100].

                In almost every national republic, there is a group of intellectuals who present the entire Russian people “in black colors” [100]. For example, members of the Tatar Public Center (TOC) fought on the side of the Chechen separatists [100]. In 2003, they destroyed the chapel in Naberezhnye Chelny [100]. Local courts tend to justify such actions. With great difficulty, permits for the construction of Orthodox churches and chapels are issued in Tatarstan [100]. In Bashkortostan, priority is given to defending candidate and doctoral dissertations to the Bashkirs [100].


                http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дискриминация_русских_на_постсоветском_пространстве
                1. smile
                  smile 27 May 2014 00: 38
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                  rereture
                  Oh, come on, no need here - sane, insane - it doesn't matter what each individual Natsik thinks, it is important what their leaders are who are leading the crowd of supporters. like you, for example. And we saw enough of the leaders of the Natsik on Bolotnaya. Everything. What else is there to talk about? You can twist yourself in front of yourself by declaring. that you are "not like that" - it does not matter, because the utter ubls lead you along.
          2. striker
            striker 26 May 2014 17: 42
            -3
            Quote: smile
            rereture
            They are ready to be friends with anyone just to dump the bad anti-Russian power ....
            ... and we have 21 national republics ...

            About 21 national republics, you rightly noticed that .... But is there only one RUSSIAN among these republics?

            In a "communal apartment" called "RF", where the most nasty national man has his SEPARATE "room", only the 100-million Russian people live in the "corridor". The people who CREATED, RELEASED and gave their NAME to the country, which is called R throughout the worldUSSIA !!!



            It is necessary to recognize the obvious - the current Russian state is HARMFUL to the Russian ethos.
            The current Russian government does not need people. She needs a CONTROLLED AREA. With oil pumps and gas pipes. With the fact that in our time personifies the power over the world.
            And who will it be populated with? - Russian, Caucasians, Asians .... but at least blacks! Authorities are FSUs. a little more than complete.



            Z.Y. Once again, I recall how Putler, in his youth (according to his story), drove a rat into a dead end, in a corner of the house. And she, on me, says, was sweetened up!
            It's your destiny. You are in power. You are - YOURSELF AUTHORITY, but instead of a rat, you have driven the Russian People into a corner. Wait for your Russian Maidan.
            1. smile
              smile 27 May 2014 00: 44
              +3
              striker
              And those like you that try to arrange the Maidan - we will transmit - like rats. You can be sure. :))) The Russian people will cleanse themselves of all rubbish themselves if it comes out. So sit still. :)))

              Hey rereture, you needed an illustration to that. what Natsik in fact. and not in words make efforts precisely to destroy the Russian people? Here. admire this organism - it’s here we have gathered to arrange the Maidan. Like? These are the wastes that go to Natsik.
              1. striker
                striker 27 May 2014 04: 00
                -2
                The criminal chaos of the diasporas, the impunity of ethnic criminals, inaction of officials and law enforcement agencies, and not Russian nationalists destroy the Russian people.
                It is with THIS power that everyone has long been accustomed to public insults of Russians on a national basis. Even a mountain lawyer, who promised to pour Russian blood into Moscow on TV, was acquitted by their court. And by destroying the Russian people, they are also destroying Russia. Because where there are no Russians, there is no Russia either (in the state sense), there is “territory” (see the video from Grozny).

                Therefore, the question of the survival of the Russian ethnic group in Russia (in the literal sense of the word - physical survival) and the preservation of Russia as a ONE state is question of power. We Russians are faced with a historical choice - either to change the anti-Russian power in Russia (by any means), or (like the ancient Romans) to leave with the country in historical non-existence.

                What is required in this connection? Russian nationalists:

                1. The Russian Federation shall be renamed the Russian National State, with the simultaneous abolition of all national republics and their transformation into regions and territories.
                2. Return to the passport of the column "nationality".
                3. Consolidation in the Constitution of the status of the Russian People, as a state-forming, and the only bearer of power in the Russian National State. The power of the Russian People is realized through referenda.
                4. Subsoil, land, forests, water bodies of the RNG are the property of the Russian People, transferred to the state. Only state-owned companies with 100% state (municipal) capital have the right to engage in subsoil use, water use, forest management for industrial development.
                5. The composition of government at all levels in the RNG should be formed taking into account the fact that Russians are the largest indigenous people of the RNG.
                6. Jews, Gypsies, Chinese, Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Turkmens, Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Georgians, Greeks, Kurds - are not indigenous peoples of the RNG.
                7. Representatives of non-indigenous peoples do not have the right to hold positions in the bodies of state and municipal services of the RNG, financial and commercial structures. Representatives of the peoples of the North Caucasus disenfranchised occupy positions in state and municipal service bodies, financial and commercial structures outside the North Caucasus region.
                8. The abolition of Article 282 of the Criminal Code and the immediate release of all political prisoners repressed under this article.


                THIS IS OUR REQUIREMENTS (softer we are no longer satisfied). The rest depends on the current Russian authorities: either they will hear the demand of the MAJORITY, or they (and with them the state) will face the same thing that happened to those who chose to rely on minorities in their rule: whether they are religious (as in Syria), whether ethnic (as in Libya), social whether (as in Ukraine)
      2. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 26 May 2014 10: 44
        +1
        we have so many undeveloped deposits with harsh working conditions and you propose to send them to the resorts, you need to be thrifty with labor resources, then my friend’s state approach is necessary.

        Occupational therapy is an extremely useful thing and well eliminates false beliefs.
        1. rereture
          rereture 26 May 2014 10: 55
          +2
          Are you not a patriot of your country? Do not want to go to develop new fields with harsh working conditions? Why? You do not love your country? Or do you think that hard work is the lot of convicts?

          How does this look like a Soviet person, to transplant everyone and make them work, and to talk about evil Great Russian chauvinism themselves.
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 26 May 2014 12: 35
            +3
            Listen, I’m a Soviet man, I was born, studied, served, worked in the USSR. I don’t want anyone to, to force everyone to work, and to talk about evil Great Russian chauvinism ourselves., and we have seen all good. so: a thief should sit in prison, just like a murderer, a rapist. so it’s not for you to judge what kind of SOVIET MAN he is, you haven’t sniffed life yet, a non-Soviet person, and there he condemned.
            1. rereture
              rereture 26 May 2014 12: 49
              +1
              But the nationalist killer is probably, it is probably a crime to love the nation and wish it prosperity.

              Only a coward will be afraid of the mythical "Nazism", so much so that he is ready to ban healthy nationalism, to make it a crime.

              By the way, do not forget now not the Soviet Union with its "multinational" people, but Russia, where 80% of the population is Russian. These 80% of Russians are the foundation on which the whole of Russia rests.
              1. smile
                smile 26 May 2014 15: 22
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                rereture
                No, a crime is to set non-Russian peoples of Russia against Russians, a crime - under the guise of populist slogans about the revival of a nation, weaken their country and this same nation.
                No one argues that Russia relies on the Russians, but to underestimate the contribution of the rest is also not the case. At all times, Russia was tolerant of other nations that contributed to its construction.
                Nothing but nationalism can ruin us. In the same way, if it were not for the artificially heated national question, the USSR would never have collapsed. Never. We would endure everything. anything, defeating us from the outside was impossible ... but from the inside - we all saw the result in '91 ... do you want a relapse?
                1. rereture
                  rereture 26 May 2014 15: 46
                  0
                  The national question was precisely heated precisely by the USSR, by the creation of national republics. USSR, BSSR, ZSFSR, RSFSR and other national republics were created artificially by the Bolsheviks. The USSR began to support national languages, fanning the faded national identity of the conquered peoples, and shouting about Great Russian chauvinism. If instead of creating such national republics the USSR leaders carried out a competent internal migration policy, there would not be 1000 and 1 people, but there would be one nation, Russians of which the majority would assimilate all and inculcate their culture. As a result, the USSR cracked where it was thin, all sorts of national republics (which were artificially created) separated, except for those where the people were more or less assimilated, for example, the Republic of Tatarstan.

                  Do you want your grandchildren to have a monobrow? Did you learn Uzbek in place of Russian? Instead of Russian culture was multiculturalism like in Europe? To mosques in place of Orthodox churches? So that you and your family live on a reservation?
                  1. smile
                    smile 26 May 2014 17: 44
                    +1
                    rereture
                    I agree that serious mistakes were made in the USSR in the national question in the USSR, but do not exaggerate them. We really created an international society. I don’t see anything bad in him.
                    And what kind of nonsense is this about our grandchildren learning Uzbek? Why exaggerate so much? Or, if you don’t, forgive me, you cannot find arguments without using artistic whistle? :))) I certainly do not really like the fall of a significant part of our Muslim population into religious ecstasy and the massive construction of mosques, but no need to distort, no one replaces churches with them. And you can leave songs about reservations for minor relatives. maybe they'll believe you. Just as they will believe. that the Russian people will flourish unprecedentedly and get rid of the "ballast". consisting of 21 national republics .... enough already, the Russian people flourished during the collapse of the USSR. Then the voices of your supporters who greeted this tragedy, which turned out to be a tragedy primarily of the Russian people, were also heard. Didn't that teach you anything? Is everything so hopeless? :)))
                    1. rereture
                      rereture 26 May 2014 17: 55
                      -1
                      Let's look at the worst option, the collapse of the Russian Federation. Tatars have the Republic of Tatarstan, Bashkirs have the Republic of Bashkortostan, etc. But where should the Russians go? They do not have national territories assigned to them.

                      Enough already, the Russian people flourished during the collapse of the USSR. Then the voices of your supporters who welcomed this tragedy, which turned out to be a tragedy primarily of the Russian people, were also heard. Didn't this teach you anything? What, so everything is hopeless? :)))


                      The fact of the matter is that for the Russians nothing has changed. There was a republic of the RSFSR, and that was eliminated.
                      1. smile
                        smile 27 May 2014 00: 48
                        0
                        rereture
                        Yeah, and it is precisely those like you who provoke the non-Russian part of the population to secession. And it is not able to realize this. My condolences. :)))
          2. smile
            smile 26 May 2014 15: 16
            -1
            rereture
            Yeah. So this is how noneshnye national patriots think about the Soviet man .... do not find that on this issue you and others like you broadcast surprisingly consonant cliches - the propaganda machine of our probable Western friends also says so, as Ukrainian fascists say. so say the Baltic Russophobes, so say everyone who calls Russia "Rashka" ... you have a decent company .... :))) Congratulations. :))) But. as I understand it. such unanimity with such characters is not a reason for you to think about your views, you have no time, you care for Russia ...
            The article is exactly about people like you. :)))
            1. rereture
              rereture 26 May 2014 15: 56
              +1
              As the golden rule of morality says: "Treat people the way you want them to treat you." If a person urged to send people to hard labor, would the people sent to him treat him well?

              There is nothing more insulting than calling our country so derogatory, even in such a context.

              Alas, I did not listen to propaganda, I just watched the situation in our country. Behind the behavior of many personalities. And alas, he became.
              1. smile
                smile 26 May 2014 17: 47
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                rereture
                That is, apparently because you are inattentive to the political events taking place in our country. if you are not interested in those who lead the "protest" moods, you become an easy prey for any demagogy. It's sad.
                1. rereture
                  rereture 26 May 2014 17: 58
                  0
                  The fact of the matter is that I am critical of the protest moods.

                  And so I was already tired of enduring how they wipe our feet in OWN state.
      3. mark2
        mark2 26 May 2014 17: 40
        0
        So the fact of the matter is that they will not feel good anywhere. These are people of a certain warehouse. They can only incite others to get into zhraki, which are not worth a damn.
    2. FunkschNNX
      FunkschNNX 26 May 2014 10: 38
      +2
      There are no bad nations, but due to mentality, customs, etc. etc. there are very different groups of people (most often the boundaries of groups correlate with nationality) interacting differently with society.

      In any case, we discriminate against people on social grounds. For example, those judged by grave articles no one in their right mind would trust parenting. Or no one will send graduates of reputable universities to work as a shepherd. The same is with nationality: everyone has their own characteristics that should be taken into account.
      1. striker
        striker 26 May 2014 17: 57
        0
        Quote: Фкенщь13
        There are no bad nations, but due to mentality, customs, etc. etc. there are very different groups of people (most often the boundaries of groups correlate with nationality) interacting differently with society.

        The same is with nationality: everyone has their own characteristics that should be taken into account.


        I was once in a paid clinic. There is already one "nyuraseyanen" LCN - "doctor" working there. Performs simple functions. What is significant русские female doctors honestly fill out receipts and tell them to carry them to the cashier for payment. The "doctor" -lican suggests reducing the total amount, paying part of it through the cashier, and giving the rest to him in cash.

        I am becoming more and more convinced that the criminal psychotype of LKN is the law of nature for today.
    3. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 26 May 2014 12: 25
      +2
      The author is right, from patriotism to nationalism is one step. The main thing is not to cross the line.
      Every nation has a nationalist share, just when the majority listens to it, Hitler or Islamic radicals come to power.

      The author, as I understand it, proposes to focus on the development of Russian, not by opposing the Russian people as other enemies and the only ones to blame for all sins (in Ukraine, just such a scenario, the Russians say they are to blame), but by good relations with others nations, you see, Russia is a multinational country, and people are Russians not in appearance but in spirit.
      1. rereture
        rereture 26 May 2014 12: 55
        +2
        Let them assimilate, accept our basic customs, respect our laws, and do not bother to change them.

        And Russia is a mono-ethnic state, because according to the UNESCO glossary, the national (or “mono-national”) state is a state in which a large majority of the population have a common identity and culture.

        In the Russian Federation, 80% of Russians have a common identity and a common culture, therefore we are a mono-ethnic country.
        1. Svist
          Svist 26 May 2014 15: 10
          +3
          Quote: rereture
          How does this look like a Soviet person, to transplant everyone and make them work, and to talk about evil Great Russian chauvinism by themselves

          What do you know about Soviet man? I think only what you put in your head shit and liberals.
          It was the Soviet people, not the nationalists, who won the war against fascism. I am Russian, I am proud of my people and I love them more than other nations. So who am I, a nationalist? So be it. But I respected and respect other nationalities. I never understood the slogan Russia for Russians! But what about other nationalities inhabiting Russia from time immemorial? I'll tell you a secret ... I worked "at the construction sites of communism." Without compulsion, at the call of the heart, so to speak. Despite the fact that he was only a pioneer, up to a certain age. Neither a Komsomol member, nor a communist - he was not. He worked at the construction of the KamAZ automobile plant, worked for 10 years at the construction of BAM, namely "in harsh working conditions." And I consider myself a SOVIET person. The USSR was a great country. Shitokrats are asking ..., uhaidakali in general. Only, just began to rise, and you are fanning "mono-nationalism". This is either stupidity or a provocation.
          PS Sorry for the confusion, but always rage statements about the Soviet past of people who are in this with no ear, no snout.
          1. rereture
            rereture 26 May 2014 16: 45
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            I know that it infuriates you, as it is your youth, remembering, plus nostalgia.

            The Soviet people won, among whom the Russians were the majority. In the concentration camps, the Russians were mostly languishing. Yes, and more Russians died than all the rest taken together, if we take into account only the dead servicemen, the Russians killed about 5 people, the total number of soldiers killed was about 756. This is not taking into account the partisans and civilians.

            But we young people understand that the USSR, with all its advantages, cannot be returned. But we also do not want to be the dung on which other nations grow. Especially you can not argue with numbers. The USSR was multinational, Russia is mononational. Or do you want to say that 80% of Russians do not exist?
            1. smile
              smile 26 May 2014 17: 54
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              rereture
              And what, that is why you advocate for the dismemberment of Russia? :))) Do you think that the Russians in the torn away republics of the Union liked it very much to live in isolation from the country. often. second-class people? Do you wish to continue to do good to the Russian people, now dismembering Russia already? Sorry, but sometimes thinking is harmless too. And, preferably, with your head. :)))
              And do not speak, please, for all young people - fortunately, the bacillus of nationalism, which starts only in an empty head, only a small part of it is affected.
              1. rereture
                rereture 26 May 2014 18: 15
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                And where should the Russians return to the country where they are so considered second-class people? Did we have a normal program for the resettlement of compatriots?
                And where did I propose to dismember our country? Here is the message in which I suggested dismembering the country? no need to ascribe to me what I did not write.
                1. smile
                  smile 27 May 2014 00: 56
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                  rereture
                  Yes, how much can you explain? It doesn’t matter that you, in your ... so to speak naivety, believe that you are not leading the country to collapse, the important thing is where the brainless barranes are led by Natsik pastors. whose populist slogans you repeat. You are for them extras, cannon fodder, no longer good for anything. And in order to understand. that they were enough to see who they allied with and what slogans were yelling at Bolotnaya. Look, your colleague striker is waiting for the Maidan to happen. Do you need to comment? Do you need to chew everything again, or at least for a change, will you try to think with your head yourself?
  2. wolfhunter2035
    wolfhunter2035 26 May 2014 09: 22
    +9
    And I have nothing against emigrants! they are people too, just to comply with the laws (they still do not comply with some minor laws) and then there will be no complaints at all! Yes, and they work not in human conditions, because the oligarchs need cheap labor! for such an attitude, oligarchs must be sent to mines with confiscation of property!
    1. blackberry
      blackberry 26 May 2014 10: 20
      +6
      Quote: hanter2035
      And I have nothing against emigrants! they are people too, just to comply with the laws (they still do not comply with some minor laws) and then there will be no complaints at all! Yes, and they work not in human conditions, because the oligarchs need cheap labor! for such an attitude, oligarchs must be sent to mines with confiscation of property!

      You know, I realized that you are not against good, honest, non-criminal gentiles. That's just about "let them observe the slightest and there will be no problems." A wonderful wish, and not only to the Gentiles, it would be good if everyone was law-abiding. How many Orthodox Christians do not pay taxes? A retired silovik tried to prove to me that he was a fine fellow, even if he was white, he only had half his salary. "Everyone lives like this, even government agencies." What right does he have to demand taxes from a migrant, if he justified himself in this, and everyone else, and even a heap of state structures. And there will be more harm from such a security officer. The other day I read an article that the Moscow security official-casino protector was taken to the minister's advisor, and now he is in charge of "coordinating the joining of Crimean law enforcement agencies to the Russian law enforcement system." Somehow so vaguely worded. I immediately remembered how we were arguing about whether a casino was needed in Crimea. After reading about this "curator", I looked into Aksenov's official twitter - she writes, they say, will correctly place the casino. From whom is the greatest harm to a Russian person? Personally, I am worried that these casino builders are stealing more than all the Gentiles in the entire history of Russia, and they will destroy lives - I find it difficult to count. Harm is harm, and distracting images of enemies do not solve problems.
      1. rereture
        rereture 26 May 2014 10: 26
        +3
        Sorry, but the migrant is a guest, and what is allowed to the owner is not allowed to the guest. Maybe you like to walk naked at home, do you really let the neighbor who comes to visit walk the same naked?
        1. blackberry
          blackberry 26 May 2014 10: 30
          +1
          Quote: rereture
          Sorry, but the migrant is a guest, and what is allowed to the owner is not allowed to the guest. Maybe you like to walk naked at home, do you really let the neighbor who comes to visit walk the same naked?

          I do not agree at all. I replied to a post about breaking the law, and not about the way of walking in the house.
          1. rereture
            rereture 26 May 2014 10: 37
            +1
            It was a comparison. And if, in fact, we have enough of our offenses, then why multiply them also by dark personalities, who, if something happens, can escape punishment?
            1. blackberry
              blackberry 26 May 2014 10: 40
              +2
              Quote: rereture
              It was a comparison. And if, in fact, we have enough of our offenses, then why multiply them also by dark personalities, who, if something happens, can escape punishment?

              There is no need to multiply. We need to fix our own in parallel. I do not remember where I read the Japanese saying "I saw someone else's flaw - fix yours." Well said.
              1. rereture
                rereture 26 May 2014 10: 48
                +1
                Probably you have not heard the Russian proverb "if you chase two hares, you won't catch a single one." And why is it that highly qualified specialists do not come to us, but every rabble who does not even know the language, why do we need them? Hand out flyers near the metro?
                1. smile
                  smile 26 May 2014 17: 57
                  -2
                  rereture
                  And you, apparently. supporter of a tit in the cam? A kind of small, but proud and very prosperous Russian state, a kind within the boundaries of the fifteenth century? Nude ...
                  1. rereture
                    rereture 26 May 2014 18: 19
                    0
                    Apparently you are a lover of migrants. And where did the university see calls for the dismemberment of our country? And why not declare the original Russian territories as the Republic of Russia, for example, as part of the Russian Federation? Well, what is this bad? Or to declare the Russian people the titular nation that I ask again for this bad?
                    1. EwgenyZ
                      EwgenyZ 26 May 2014 22: 01
                      +1
                      Interestingly, but you apparently do not consider Russia a Russian state? You have an interesting logic: if it’s dirty in the back room, I’d better nail it up than put things in order, if it gets dirty in the other room I will do the same, and so on, until the rooms end, and I will proudly live in the kitchen (Republic of Russia) !
                      1. rereture
                        rereture 26 May 2014 22: 23
                        0
                        I think so, but alas, this is not documented anywhere.

                        Here is an excerpt from the constitution of the Russian Federation


                        We, the multinational people of the Russian Federation, united by common destiny on our land, affirming human rights and freedoms, civil peace and harmony, preserving the historically formed state unity, proceeding from the generally recognized principles of equality and self-determination of peoples, honoring the memory of ancestors who gave us love and respect for Fatherland, faith in good and justice, reviving the sovereign statehood of Russia and affirming the inviolability of its democratic basis, striving to ensure the well-being and prosperity of Russia , proceeding from the responsibility for our Motherland before present and future generations, conscious of ourselves as a part of the world community, we accept the CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.


                        Article 1

                        1. The Russian Federation - Russia is a democratic federal state with a republican form of government.

                        2. The names of the Russian Federation and Russia are equivalent.

                        Article 2

                        Man, his rights and freedoms are the highest value. Recognition, observance and protection of human and citizen's rights and freedoms is the duty of the state.

                        Article 3

                        1. The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.

                        2. The people exercise their power directly, as well as through government bodies and local governments.

                        3. The highest direct expression of the power of the people is a referendum and free elections.

                        4. No one can appropriate power in the Russian Federation. The seizure of power or the appropriation of power is prosecuted under federal law.

                        Article 4

                        1. The sovereignty of the Russian Federation extends over its entire territory.

                        2. The Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal laws are supremacy throughout the territory of the Russian Federation.

                        3. The Russian Federation ensures the integrity and inviolability of its territory.

                        http://www.constitution.ru/10003000/10003000-3.htm

                        And no where it is written that Russia is a Russian state. Strange huh?
                      2. EwgenyZ
                        EwgenyZ 26 May 2014 22: 49
                        +1
                        Russia, from the Greek. Ρωσία - Rus, is this not enough for you? Do you want to live in the Russian state? "Give" children, Russians. For newcomers, everything is in order with this case - five, six children in families, and for Russians, how many? The creation of the Republics of Russia, Siberia, Cossacks, etc. national problems cannot be solved. The USSR was being torn apart under the same "sauce" - "to throw off the ballast" (Asia, Transcaucasia). Now is Russia’s turn? After the collapse of the USSR, 21 million Russians became "second-class" people. How many Russians will repeat their fate if Russia collapses?
                      3. rereture
                        rereture 26 May 2014 23: 20
                        0
                        I wrote somewhere about the need for the collapse of the Russian Federation? Why do you attribute your speculations to me? I have not written anywhere about ballast that needs to be thrown off. He did not throw out the slogans "Russia for Russians", did not call for interethnic hostility. He simply made a demand to recognize Russians as the titular nation of the Russian Federation, to register in the Constitution of the Russian Federation the right to self-determination of the Russian nation. And that's all.

                        Don't worry about "doing" the kids in the process. And there are at least three of them in the plans.
                2. smile
                  smile 27 May 2014 00: 34
                  0
                  rereture
                  :))) Well, yes, and at the same time declare - one country - one nation. After all, this is exactly what the leaders of our Natsiks say. You pay too much attention to their words, absolutely not thinking about their actions, into where you are being taken. And in the end, what will change if someone fixes the title of "title" for us. By the way. until now, such words were used by non-Natsiks. You, too, apparently, a Nazi, but ours. But what are you ours, if our Natsik support the Ukrainian fascists? Do you understand that your leaders are the guardians of the Russians, and they are happy to consider Bandera Russophobes as their own?
                  And the calls for the dismemberment of Russia are a constant chant of the leaders of our Natsiks - they say, the Caucasus, for example, needs to be separated. What's this? Is that what I'm asking you?
                  The fact that you do not realize where you are being taken, like Barrrrana, and do not understand that the nationalists are "friends" with the most utter Russophobes, testifies only to one thing - you are a narrow-minded, immature person. And it's not about age, some people remain adolescent until old age ...
                  1. rereture
                    rereture 27 May 2014 01: 52
                    0
                    I do not support the Nazis in Ukraine, and my environment, too, because why support those who go against you and your nation, kill Russians, why support those who killed Russians in Chechnya. My environment and I are not radicals, unlike, for example, Westov.
    2. tasha
      tasha 26 May 2014 15: 54
      +1
      What is allowed to the owner is not allowed to the guest? Hmmm. Well you give.
  3. I am
    I am 26 May 2014 16: 25
    +1
    Well there are different options. Cultural-civilized migrants are good. BUT !!!! 5 years live in Russia, comply with the laws, and then everything, the status of a migrant changes to the status of CITIZEN. Maybe of course not quite so, but it seems that it would be fair to all sides)))
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 16: 28
      -1
      But what about the knowledge of Russian culture? And the Russian language? But as for me, let it be born and grow up in Russian culture, then it is already possible to give citizenship.
  • il2.chewie
    il2.chewie 26 May 2014 09: 45
    +2
    they no longer call for a maidan in Moscow and do not deny the massive manifestation of Nazism in Ukraine.


    And what, very principled people who are responsible for their words. Today they say one thing, tomorrow another
  • igorra
    igorra 26 May 2014 09: 53
    +7
    They are trying to replace the concept of "Russian world" with Russian nationalism. Russians have never been nationalists, otherwise they would not have created such a country.
  • rereture
    rereture 26 May 2014 09: 53
    +4
    This is how the author of the article gave a refusal of Russian identity, a refusal to self-determination of the Russian nation. Said no to 80% of Russians. He called a good half of them with provocateurs. A program to improve the image of the inhabitants of the Caucasus? Let them behave accordingly (there are normal guys familiar from the Caucasus, cultured and well-mannered, most importantly fluent in Russian).

    Let the authorities stop the anti-Russian rhetoric when the Russians expose cattle and drunkards.


    PS You can blame me as a provocateur, but our migration policy is shit. And as for medical tourism, let the author of the article take an interest and criminal migration, let the author of the article take an interest.

    Pss

    People have respect for themselves and their nation.
    1. smile
      smile 26 May 2014 15: 34
      0
      rereture
      Fortunately, we have far from half of them .... and the statements about the "anti-Russian rhetoric of Vlast" are somewhat too similar to the cries of the marshes. :))) That's really a real bunch of "patriots", right? And nothing, our nationalist was quite comfortable with the society of all sorts of homosexuals and those whom we call liberals.

      Well, with the fact that our migration policy, to put it mildly, I think. all agree .... but this is not a reason under this brand to ruin the country. Have respect for yourself and see what leaders of the movements declared your rhetoric in the swamp, what kind of people are they ... is not it a shame? :)))
  • aud13
    aud13 26 May 2014 09: 55
    +3
    2) Focusing on the issue of illegal immigration and ethnic crime. It is not known how (and by whom) statistics are calculated, according to which migrants are guilty of the bulk of thefts, rape and the fact that there are so many people of non-Slavic appearance (although the latter is doubtful not only as a fact, but also as a complaint). It is postulated that these migrants occupy places in kindergartens, schools and at work, bring their culture here and interfere with Russian life.
    You can’t ignore this problem either.
    Moreover, it is the immigrants who have not assimilated with the Russian population that can be used by our "partners" to stir up another mess. Kosovo is a good example.
  • Gorinich
    Gorinich 26 May 2014 09: 59
    +5
    Funny article and not to say that it is not correct. But the whole meaning of it can be expressed with the old phrase: I do not like racists ... and blacks ....
  • smart75
    smart75 26 May 2014 10: 05
    +3
    It is postulated that these migrants occupy places in kindergartens, schools and at work, bring their own culture here and prevent Russians from living.
    And I often read about the creation of groups of relatives at some local deputy, with the obligatory presence of employees of the internal affairs bodies. Market control, illegal migration to Russia for money, in some places slavery, very often drug trafficking.
  • Khalmamed
    Khalmamed 26 May 2014 10: 11
    +4
    ... "3) The rejection of the Soviet Union, they say, the USSR was ruled by Jews and Georgians, that the genocide of Russians was carried out, that the Russian people suffered and finally got rid of the" Jewish communiak "." ... and now it is the same there ...
    ... even though I am a Tekin Turkmen ..but I swore allegiance to the peoples of the USSR and studying at the Savetsky universities did my job, there is a guarantee that you get the same ...
    ... immigration - FORBIDDEN !!! otherwise at the beginning of YOU, and then the Russified will take us ...
    ... YOU Slavs in all the swarthy see Azeri, Dag, etc., YOU do not see how OUR HOUSE RUSSIA sitting at the top (erase point number 3) are imported brothers and people of the Middle East region ... soon in Russia there will be only a point No. 3 ... or look, EVENTS in the former Ukraine are now fascist-bender-ghoulabad .., EVERYTHING has already robbed human organs to begin to delight ..

    ... Brought up on the OLD TRADITIONS of the USSR, Decent and competent goys see them ...
  • Andrey82
    Andrey82 26 May 2014 10: 36
    +1
    The authorities need, firstly, still to solve the problem with migrants ...
    -------------------------------------------------- -
    People have heard this for a good twenty years ... twenty. Maybe they will start to decide, and not pretend that they decide when more large-scale events will occur than at Manezhnaya or Biryulyovo, but it would not be too late.
  • atos_kin
    atos_kin 26 May 2014 10: 51
    +2
    The author quotes J.V. Stalin about the danger to state building of nationalism "of all stripes and colors," but talks about immigration and the relations associated with it, and these, in my opinion, are close, but different things. In "Odessa Khatyn" the issue of immigration is not the most defining one.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 26 May 2014 11: 33
    -3
    From nationalism to Nazism, one step ..
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 26 May 2014 12: 09
      +2
      Cons put people probably made this step ..
  • Dezinto
    Dezinto 26 May 2014 12: 29
    +1
    One of the Strugatskys said very accurately - "Do not confuse patriotism with nationalism, the first is love for your homeland and the second is hatred for everyone around."

    So, in order not to cross the line, and not to choose Hitlers, you just need to be friends with the head. (look at things critically, carefully, look at yourself from the side, make decisions not after someone’s loud speech).

    IMHO.
  • serge
    serge 26 May 2014 12: 35
    +1
    Another article by a Jew about bad Russian nationalists. And that only the authorities do not do for the Russians, they do not like anything. And they don't like migrants, and they don't like mosques, and for some reason they don't like ethnic crime. And some Russians in the executive branch began to come across, but come on, there are Russian spiteful critics who want the Russians to lead Russia. And in general, it's scary to say - Russian literary scholars began to appear who question the general line of the party - that the "Russian" revolution of 1917 was carried out by the Russians and that comrades Trotsky, Sverdlov, Yagoda and others, see the composition of the Soviet government of the twenties, were fiery Russian revolutionaries. They even swung at statistics. Certain Russian pests (especially sophisticated nationalists) ask where, after the Jewish Russian revolution, thirty, or even fifty million Russians disappeared, given that the population of the Russian Empire was 182 million people in 1917, while the subsequently separated Poles and Finns were only 15 million ... And according to the 1926 census, only 150 million remained. At the same time, the birth rate among these Russians in the pre-revolutionary years was three million a year. Here are the villains, they learned to read and count, they ask all sorts of questions, the nationalists are sophisticated. And in general, they have become insolent - just think, it is indicative that Russian heroes are honored. And I suppose they are agents of the American Jewish Department of State. For everyone knows - since a Russian nationalist, it means an American agent. And that only the authorities did not do in order to satisfy all sorts of Russian nationalists - both sophisticated and everyone else. And Zhirinovsky gave them - here's the leader, the Russians, with falcons in line. And Belov-Potkin tried, and all sorts of Kholmogorovs and Navalny gush. Cultured guys, from good Jewish families, real leaders of Russian nationalists. No, they are unhappy, and that's it. Mysterious Russian soul. What they went for, words cannot describe. Here's the Crimea, choke. No, I don't like it either, they demand the whole of Ukraine, save the Russian population, you know. Jewish extremists, kasparov-navalny dogs, were given a little kick, they say. They demand that the authorities in Russia become Russian. Yes, when was it, did they go crazy? Not like wolves, bears and in sheep's clothing. Give them a finger to bite, they will cut off the whole hand. What to do, what to do?
    1. Andrey82
      Andrey82 26 May 2014 13: 57
      +1
      The main goal of these is to prevent Russians from feeling Russian. At first they divided it into Russians and Ukrainians with Belarusians, and soon they would divide it into Muscovites with Siberians and Volzhans.
  • Savva30
    Savva30 26 May 2014 13: 03
    +1
    How not to swear. We will never live in peace with migrants, for a simple reason ... we have different cultures !!! Is it really hard to understand. And even those who try to rebuild for us, we will later be despised for the fact that they had to humiliate ourselves. Everyone should live on their own historical territory, as part of their people, on the basis of their traditions ... I am not against guests if they do not impose "their own world" on me.
    For me, it’s better to take Donbass, Lugansk and ...., together with their land, to Russia, than to shelter and make millions of migrants, for example, from Asia, for example, that our rulers are constantly planning.
    The fish rots ...
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 13: 09
      0
      Correctly say, I completely agree with you.

      And if you start from the article, then you are a nationalist, a wolf in sheep's clothing. (Sarcasm)

      Personally, I think that scribblers like Steiner need to be driven out of Russia.
    2. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 26 May 2014 22: 12
      +1
      Well, duck "the fish is rots" since they took Kazan, and "rots" and "rots", increasing in size. And then the Savior of the Russian nation came and the bastard! He chopped off all the "rot" and the "fish" again clean (racist) and neat (within the Garden Ring). And everyone felt good at once!
  • tolancop
    tolancop 26 May 2014 13: 06
    +2
    "2) Focusing on the problem of illegal immigration and ethnic crime. It is unknown how (and by whom) the calculated statistics, according to which migrants are to blame for the bulk of thefts and rapes, ...... It is postulated that it is migrants who take places in kindergartens, schools and at work, they bring their culture here and interfere with Russian life. "

    With a source of statistics on crimes committed by migrants, it is very simple: the information centers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs work. And for widespread crimes, the information about the persons who committed them is rather voluminous, including the citizenship of the person and citizenship is taken into account before obtaining Russian citizenship, too. A lot of things are taken into account.
    I believe that similar statistics are being conducted by the Ministry of Education. And for other departments too. And I think the statistics are pretty reliable. Well, I can't imagine the reason why the head of a kindergarten in some Mukhoska will indicate in her statistical report that she has 20 Tajiks in her kindergarten, with a real number of 5. How many there are in real life, she will indicate as many. And I do not see the reasons why the figure that will come "from below" will be adjusted at the regional level.
    So, there are no problems with statistics.
    Do migrants interfere with the indigenous population? Ask residents of houses located near mosques for large markets like Cherkizon.
    A lot of labor migrants from Ukraine and Belarus work in Russia. Has anyone heard of complaints about their behavior? I personally have not heard, because they behave like people (local), and do not climb into our monastery with their own charter.
  • sv68
    sv68 26 May 2014 13: 50
    0
    a very difficult question is how to distinguish a nationalist from a Nazi and what is the difference between them? and for the article, I'm sorry, but this is the most common talking room in the cycle, you need to, but you need to be like that. Any person who loves his homeland can be called a nationalist or patriot or Nazi- it’s just that there is a very fine line between all these concepts, which, for example, a patriot can become a nationalist. The author, like many, only expressed his opinion, but did not give more than one sensible advice, as even being a nationalist he would suddenly not become a Nazi.
  • rereture
    rereture 26 May 2014 14: 20
    +3
    By the way, regarding the "common people" who rely on "scratch the Russian, you will find a Tatar", and shout that there are no Russians and they are exhausted, that there are Russian Mongolians, that there are no purebred Russians. Let them argue with Russian, Estonian and British geneticists who painstakingly studied our genes. Scientists who conducted the research: Oleg Balanovskyemail, Siiri Rootsi, Andrey Pshenichnov, Toomas Kivisild, Michail Churnosov, Irina Evseeva, Elvira Pocheshkhova, Margarita Boldyreva, Nikolay Yankovsky, Elena Balanovska, Richard Villems.
    General selection with comments:
    Moreover, genetic scientists, summing up their research, declare that the genotypes of Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are almost completely identical, thereby proving that we were and remain the same people:

    “... the genetic variations of the Y chromosome of the inhabitants of the central and southern regions of Ancient Rus turned out to be almost identical to those of the“ Slav brothers ”- Ukrainians and Belarusians.”

    One of the project managers, the Russian geneticist Oleg Balanovsky, admitted in an interview to Gazeta.ru that the Russians are almost a monolithic people from a genetic point of view, destroying another myth: "everyone is mixed up, there are no more Russians." Quite the contrary: Russians were and there are Russians. One people, one nation, monolithic nationality - with a distinct special genotype.

    Further, by studying the materials of the remains from the oldest burials, scientists found that "Slavic tribes had mastered these lands (Central and Southern Russia) long before the mass migration of the main part of the ancient Russians to them in the XNUMXth – XNUMXth centuries." That is, the lands of Central and Southern Russia were settled by Russians (Rusichs) already, at least in the first centuries of our era (according to PX). Even earlier.

    This makes it possible to debunk yet another Russophobic myth - that Moscow and its surrounding regions were supposedly inhabited from ancient times by Finno-Ugric tribes and the Russians there are “newcomers”. We, as genetics have proved, are not aliens, but completely autochthonous inhabitants of Central Russia, where the Rus have lived since time immemorial. "Despite the fact that these lands were inhabited even before the last glaciation of our planet about 20 thousand years ago, there is no evidence directly indicating the presence of any" original "nationalities living in this territory," the report says. That is, there is no evidence that other tribes lived on our lands before us, which we supposedly supplanted or assimilated. If I may say so, we live here from the creation of the world.


    The article itself is in English. With a bunch of scientific terms, analyzes, graphs.
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707000250
    1. smile
      smile 26 May 2014 15: 42
      0
      rereture
      Well, here you are right. Absolutely.
      1. rereture
        rereture 26 May 2014 16: 24
        -1
        So we just want us to be recognized as the titular nation, removed article 282, stopped serving like an eternally drunk bldf (see TV), stopped importing migrants, stopped writing such articles, and just to understand that we we don’t owe anything to anyone, for example, we should not adopt the culture of Central Asia, or the Caucasian culture, we should not bend under the small nations. Didn’t the Russians deserve it?
        1. smile
          smile 26 May 2014 18: 01
          0
          rereture
          And you did not notice. what do the white puppies who merged in ecstasy precisely with the nationalists in the swamp expose us to be drunk cattle? Does this bother you? Take a closer look not at the Natsik slogans, but at the one with whom they want to ruin the country. But ethnic hatred must be crushed in the bud, because only it can ruin us. And the Russians did not deserve to lose the country again, no matter what slogans they want to do.
          1. rereture
            rereture 26 May 2014 18: 26
            -1
            So that you know, among nationalists in the Russian Federation there is no unity, there is no one platform, there is no one program of action. Therefore, some kind of nationalists and sniffed with swamps.

            And the Russians did not deserve to lose the country again, no matter what slogans they want to do.


            Russian means, in your opinion, they deserve to live unrecognized in their own country, under the name Russians, or under the name "multinational people of the Russian Federation". Didn't deserve self-determination and their national territories?
            1. smile
              smile 27 May 2014 01: 03
              0
              rereture
              Our few Natsiks are a cross between marginals, hooligans and outright fascists, like Bandera. All the more or less noticeable leaders were on Bolotnaya and support Ukrainian banderlogs. All. And do not dodge, because it seems that you are not a naive kid, but a deliberate liar. Let the first be better.
              1. rereture
                rereture 27 May 2014 01: 55
                -1
                That is, you deny that prudent citizens, not marginalized people, not hooligans, but educated, working people, can be nationalists? If you did not know about them, it does not mean that they are not.
  • OPTR
    OPTR 26 May 2014 15: 06
    +2
    In an even more general form, an idea abandoned by some forces can be represented as follows:
    any shortcomings in the social structure or a specific policy should be maximally inflated, presented as the most terrible, threatening people, state and requiring immediate replacement of senior management.
    And which of the shortcomings to choose is a matter of technology.
  • Nyx
    Nyx 26 May 2014 17: 06
    0
    Quote: atos_kin
    The author quotes J.V. Stalin about the danger to state building of nationalism "of all stripes and colors," but talks about immigration and the relations associated with it, and these, in my opinion, are close, but different things. In "Odessa Khatyn" the issue of immigration is not the most defining one.

    The whole joke is that these unfortunate nationalists do not even distinguish Caucasians from migrants from Central Asia. And yes, I’m still a supporter of the return of the territories of the USSR, so that Kazakhs-Uzbeks would again become our citizens
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 17: 19
      0
      Well, why do we need Uzbeks? Feed them again? Are you few Uzbek migrants? If you have such love for them, go to them.
  • Nyx
    Nyx 26 May 2014 17: 13
    -1
    Quote: rereture
    So we just want us to be recognized as the titular nation, removed article 282, stopped serving like an eternally drunk bldf (see TV), stopped importing migrants, stopped writing such articles, and just to understand that we we don’t owe anything to anyone, for example, we should not adopt the culture of Central Asia, or the Caucasian culture, we should not bend under the small nations. Didn’t the Russians deserve it?

    Do you have any kind of children's complexes, and you need to be given the title nation medal? Then you are not Russian at all, you are most likely a Galician or Estonian, they are always insulted. Well, I'm not talking about 282 at all. Fuck you fucking Nazi
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 17: 33
      -1
      Yes, it is necessary that we be recognized that we are. What is such a Russian people.
      We read the preamble of the constitution of Tatarstan, the first paragraph.

      This Constitution, expressing the will of the multinational people of the Republic of Tatarstan and Tatar people,


      We read the preamble of the constitution of the Republic of Bashkortostan

      We, the multinational people of the Republic of Bashkortostan,
      united by a common fate in their land,
      based on the universally recognized right of peoples to self-determination, the principles of equality, voluntariness and freedom of expression,
      taking into account that Bashkir people in the XVI century he voluntarily joined Russia, in 1919 on the basis of the Agreement of the Central Soviet Government of Russia with the Bashkir government on the Soviet autonomy of Bashkiria as a result of the implementation of the law of the Bashkir nation for self-determination, the Bashkir Autonomous Republic was formed as part of the RSFSR, transformed in 1990 into the Republic of Bashkortostan in accordance with the Declaration on State Sovereignty of the Republic of Bashkortostan,


      We read the preamble of the constitution of the Russian Federation

      We, the multinational people of the Russian Federation, united by common destiny on our land, affirming human rights and freedoms, civil peace and harmony, preserving the historically formed state unity, proceeding from the generally recognized principles of equality and self-determination of peoples, honoring the memory of ancestors who gave us love and respect for Fatherland, faith in good and justice, reviving the sovereign statehood of Russia and affirming the inviolability of its democratic basis, striving to ensure the well-being and prosperity of Russia , proceeding from the responsibility for our Motherland before present and future generations, conscious of ourselves as a part of the world community, we accept the CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.


      Not a word about the Russians. Neither national territory nor the right to self-determination. That's it.
  • Nyx
    Nyx 26 May 2014 17: 26
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    Well, why do we need Uzbeks? Feed them again? Are you few Uzbek migrants? If you have such love for them, go to them.

    Do you have an economic education? Although what I mean, you most likely do not have any. Otherwise, you would know what it is for and when labor migration appears. Maybe the Caucasus will be enough for you?
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 17: 50
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      We have labor migration with the connivance of a migration policy. It would be better if, instead of importing migrants, our government took up internal migration, that is, transferring labor resources from places where there is an excess of them, to places where there is a shortage of them. Plus, the government should increase the mobility of the population, for example by canceling registration.
  • Nyx
    Nyx 26 May 2014 17: 40
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    Quote: rereture
    Yes, it is necessary that we be recognized that we are. What is such a Russian people.
    We read the preamble of the constitution of Tatarstan, the first paragraph.

    This Constitution, expressing the will of the multinational people of the Republic of Tatarstan and Tatar people,


    We read the preamble of the constitution of the Republic of Bashkortostan

    We, the multinational people of the Republic of Bashkortostan,
    united by a common fate in their land,
    based on the universally recognized right of peoples to self-determination, the principles of equality, voluntariness and freedom of expression,
    taking into account that Bashkir people in the XVI century he voluntarily joined Russia, in 1919 on the basis of the Agreement of the Central Soviet Government of Russia with the Bashkir government on the Soviet autonomy of Bashkiria as a result of the implementation of the law of the Bashkir nation for self-determination, the Bashkir Autonomous Republic was formed as part of the RSFSR, transformed in 1990 into the Republic of Bashkortostan in accordance with the Declaration on State Sovereignty of the Republic of Bashkortostan,


    We read the preamble of the constitution of the Russian Federation

    We, the multinational people of the Russian Federation, united by common destiny on our land, affirming human rights and freedoms, civil peace and harmony, preserving the historically formed state unity, proceeding from the generally recognized principles of equality and self-determination of peoples, honoring the memory of ancestors who gave us love and respect for Fatherland, faith in good and justice, reviving the sovereign statehood of Russia and affirming the inviolability of its democratic basis, striving to ensure the well-being and prosperity of Russia , proceeding from the responsibility for our Motherland before present and future generations, conscious of ourselves as a part of the world community, we accept the CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.


    Not a word about the Russians. Neither national territory nor the right to self-determination. That's it.

    Those answer is "yes", you are tormented by complexes from the fact that you were called something wrong. And the Russian, even according to the definition of Peter the Great, is the one who serves Russia.
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 18: 07
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      Quote: Nyx
      Those answer is "yes", you are tormented by complexes from the fact that you were called something wrong. And the Russian, even according to the definition of Peter the Great, is the one who serves Russia.


      What nationality are you?

      For me personally, a Russian, it is unpleasant to realize that my ancestors built and raised this country, but they got a hell of a fuck. By the way, the primordial Russian lands, according to our legislation, belong to the "multinational people of the Russian Federation." Like this.
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 26 May 2014 22: 34
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        Our "ancestors built and raised this country" not in order to build the Republic of Rus within the borders of the Russian, in fact, state.
        1. rereture
          rereture 26 May 2014 22: 40
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          I gave for an example. Show where it is written, in what documents, that Russia is a Russian state.
  • Nyx
    Nyx 26 May 2014 18: 28
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    Quote: rereture
    Quote: Nyx
    Those answer is "yes", you are tormented by complexes from the fact that you were called something wrong. And the Russian, even according to the definition of Peter the Great, is the one who serves Russia.


    What nationality are you?

    For me personally, a Russian, it is unpleasant to realize that my ancestors built and raised this country, but they got a hell of a fuck. By the way, the primordial Russian lands, according to our legislation, belong to the "multinational people of the Russian Federation." Like this.

    Your ancestors (like mine) built this country just the whole world, and nationalists of all stripes were crushed
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 18: 34
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      Argument. What the whole world? Have you studied history? It was built by the whole "world" of the USSR which no longer exists. And how to understand it was built by the whole world when Russians have always been in the majority?

      nationalists of all stripes crushed


      DI. Mendeleev was a Russian nationalist. AND? Crushed him?
  • Nyx
    Nyx 26 May 2014 18: 48
    +1
    Quote: rereture
    Argument. What the whole world? Have you studied history? It was built by the whole "world" of the USSR which no longer exists. And how to understand it was built by the whole world when Russians have always been in the majority?

    nationalists of all stripes crushed


    DI. Mendeleev was a Russian nationalist. AND? Crushed him?

    And the fact that before the Soviet Union, firstly, did not possess such greatness, and secondly, even there were many Germans and Tatars (Tatars are all non-Russian, or not Christian). And about Mendeleev - Alan Turing was gay, so gay men built Britain? Moreover, his nationalism included like all the peoples of the Republic of Ingushetia (he wrote clumsily, but I hasten)
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 19: 01
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      There were Russified Tatars and Russified Germans. Who accepted our culture and laws of the Republic of Ingushetia. Moreover, the Russians were in the majority. Since the majority means they have made a greater contribution to the construction of our country. And for some reason our country is called Russia and not Tatarstan or the United Tatar-Russian Republic. So, there is no need to talk about "the whole world was building", since other peoples did not climb out of their national territories, and in fact the Tatars built their Republic of Tatarstan with the help of the Russians.
  • Nyx
    Nyx 26 May 2014 19: 11
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    Quote: rereture
    There were Russified Tatars and Russified Germans. Who accepted our culture and laws of the Republic of Ingushetia. Moreover, the Russians were in the majority. Since the majority means they have made a greater contribution to the construction of our country. And for some reason our country is called Russia and not Tatarstan or the United Tatar-Russian Republic. So, there is no need to talk about "the whole world was building", since other peoples did not climb out of their national territories, and in fact the Tatars built their Republic of Tatarstan with the help of the Russians.

    Because our country now is just a splinter, an administrative section of the USSR state. Therefore, it is called that. And if all the Russians were like you, then the Chechens (and everyone else) quite rightly would like to blame us. But, thank God, people like you, who are offended_on_who_water_ are brought by a vanishing minority, so the country is alive
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 19: 41
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      And also a fragment of the empire. Yes, and the Chechens have settled in freely, live on subsidies, there are no Russians (Some were cut out, some were squeezed out), they produce nothing but terrorists.



      But, thank God, people like you, who are offended_on_who_water_ are brought by a vanishing minority, so the country is alive


      It was precisely the “disappearing minority” in Biryulyovo that went to the people's gathering, and in Kolpino there was also a disappearing minority. And our country, alas, is not alive, it looks more like a living corpse.
  • Nyx
    Nyx 26 May 2014 20: 23
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    And also a fragment of the empire. Yes, and the Chechens have settled in freely, live on subsidies, there are no Russians (Some were cut out, some were squeezed out), they produce nothing but terrorists.



    But, thank God, people like you, who are offended_on_who_water_ are brought by a vanishing minority, so the country is alive


    It was precisely the “disappearing minority” in Biryulyovo that went to the people's gathering, and in Kolpino there was also a disappearing minority. And our country, alas, is not alive, it looks more like a living corpse.

    You are positioning yourself very faithfully. Yes, you belong to the very schoolchildren who are marginalized, without a profession and life position, just the striking force of the Maidan. And yes, you are a minority. Try to arrange a maidan in Moscow - they will scatter you even without garbage
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 20: 32
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      Did I say something about the Maidan and what I want / want (although I'm kind of like one here) to arrange? On the contrary, I am against the Maidan, and for a peaceful political approach. What’s wrong if the government recognizes the right of Russians to self-determination? What's bad about it?
  • Nyx
    Nyx 26 May 2014 20: 40
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    Quote: rereture
    Did I say something about the Maidan and what I want / want (although I'm kind of like one here) to arrange? On the contrary, I am against the Maidan, and for a peaceful political approach. What’s wrong if the government recognizes the right of Russians to self-determination? What's bad about it?

    Those that would have left the Russian Federation? And you appealed specifically to Biryulyovo
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 21: 02
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      Russians do not want to leave the Russian Federation. If you would like, our country would have already collapsed a long time ago, and who will the Russians separate from and where, if they are dispersed throughout the Russian Federation?
      The fact of the matter is that the Russians want to be on a par with all the nations included in the Russian Federation, to have their own nat. territory, have the right to self-determination (even if it cannot be expressed in any way) and most importantly we want to be protected by law.
      I appealed to Biryulev not because of the pogroms, but because of the number of people gathered.
  • Nyx
    Nyx 26 May 2014 21: 07
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    Russians do not want to leave the Russian Federation. If you would like, our country would have already collapsed a long time ago, and who will the Russians separate from and where, if they are dispersed throughout the Russian Federation?
    The fact of the matter is that the Russians want to be on a par with all the nations included in the Russian Federation, to have their own nat. territory, have the right to self-determination (even if it cannot be expressed in any way) and most importantly we want to be protected by law.
    I appealed to Biryulev not because of the pogroms, but because of the number of people gathered.

    What exactly is stopping you from living? Not "somewhere they wrote something wrong," but for you personally
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 21: 35
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      Treating Russians as second-class people and not respecting their rights in national republics. Baseless accusations under article 282, and the fact that many Russian guys are sitting on it. And also the presumption of guilt in relation to Russians in national conflicts. That's all.
  • siberalt
    siberalt 26 May 2014 21: 39
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    A big request to all authors, if you are signing statements on behalf of a historical person, then at least give a footnote to where it was published in the original source (newspaper, number, date, article, volume, edition, page, etc. Not that it turns out - we advocate against falsification, and we do not justify our own except for the same Wikipedia.
  • Nyx
    Nyx 26 May 2014 22: 44
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    Treating Russians as second-class people and not respecting their rights in national republics. Baseless accusations under article 282, and the fact that many Russian guys are sitting on it. And also the presumption of guilt in relation to Russians in national conflicts. That's all.

    I think this is your property. To be unsatisfied. So I don’t feel like I am a second-class person, but you relate to the Caucasians and Central Asians as untrue (even if you don’t, then many yes). And to demand the cancellation of article 282 = sign in sympathy for the skins. So I repeat where you have to go
    1. rereture
      rereture 26 May 2014 23: 34
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      Ok, aren't the skins people? And how do skins differ from, for example, the Tatar nationalists "Azatlyk" (Union of Tatar Youth "Azatlyk")? Or how does this Union of Tatar Youth "Azatlyk" differ from the "Right Sector"? This union of "youth" threatened to burn down Russian cities in 2013. http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2013/01/15/prava-i-tsennosti-russkogo-naseleniya-rossi

      i / 701540-tatarskie-natsionalisty-vnov
      Which conducted anti-Russian marches in 2009 http://www.km.ru/news/v_kazani_proshel_antirusskij_mar
      They shouted about the separation of the Russian Federation. Why are they better than "skins"?
      But what about the Bashkir nationalists movement "Cook Bure"? http://www.kyk-byre.ru/
      What about Chechen nationalists? Which urge to cut Russian?

      As a result, Russians demanding national self-determination are an absolute evil, while Tatar and other nationalists are innocent "youth unions" that really set the goal of secession from the Russian Federation, is that good?

      But is it not disgusting to you that the presumption of not guilty applies to all the peoples of the Russian Federation, but does the presumption of guilt in all domestic conflicts (namely, domestic) with persons of a different nationality act on the contrary?
  • Nyx
    Nyx 27 May 2014 02: 54
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    Quote: rereture
    Ok, aren't the skins people? And how do skins differ from, for example, the Tatar nationalists "Azatlyk" (Union of Tatar Youth "Azatlyk")? Or how does this Union of Tatar Youth "Azatlyk" differ from the "Right Sector"? This union of "youth" threatened to burn down Russian cities in 2013. http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2013/01/15/prava-i-tsennosti-russkogo-naseleniya-rossi


    i / 701540-tatarskie-natsionalisty-vnov
    Which conducted anti-Russian marches in 2009 http://www.km.ru/news/v_kazani_proshel_antirusskij_mar
    They shouted about the separation of the Russian Federation. Why are they better than "skins"?
    But what about the Bashkir nationalists movement "Cook Bure"? http://www.kyk-byre.ru/
    What about Chechen nationalists? Which urge to cut Russian?

    As a result, Russians demanding national self-determination are an absolute evil, while Tatar and other nationalists are innocent "youth unions" that really set the goal of secession from the Russian Federation, is that good?

    But is it not disgusting to you that the presumption of not guilty applies to all the peoples of the Russian Federation, but does the presumption of guilt in all domestic conflicts (namely, domestic) with persons of a different nationality act on the contrary?

    No, all Natsik shit. And skins, even people, but at the level of Bandera
    1. rereture
      rereture 27 May 2014 08: 18
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      So you're just a chauvinist. Not a bit better than the Natsiks.
  • Sasha Belyaeva
    Sasha Belyaeva 27 May 2014 08: 46
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    Brevity is the soul of wit. I. Stalin - a plus.