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Russian holding will produce helicopters for China based on MI-26

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ITAR-TASS report that in the current year, the management of the holding “Helicopters of Russia” will decide on the appearance of helicopters intended for operation in the PRC. A statement about this was made by the head of the corporation, Alexander Mikheyev, during a visit to the Helirash-2014 exhibition.




According to the organization’s director general, in the coming months negotiations with Chinese partners are planned, where the details of this project will be discussed. There is information that the Mi-26 helicopter will be used as the base version, and the production of the machines will be carried out by the Mil cost center. Most likely, the new project will be called AHH (Adavanced Height Helicopter).

Mikheev said that in the course of the development of the program in the future, joint production of helicopters with the Chinese may well be considered, if there is a corresponding interest. According to the head of the holding, this issue was already discussed during the president’s visit to Shanghai, when there was an exchange of views at the level of deputy prime ministers of the two countries.
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  1. mig31
    mig31 24 May 2014 07: 14
    +6
    If you earn, then in the name of new, more advanced technologies, for the future of Russia ..
  2. Revolver
    Revolver 24 May 2014 07: 16
    +10
    Well, what is there to enjoy? The Chinese are stealing the construction, as they stole before, and will come out with almost the same MI-26, only significantly cheaper, on the world market.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 24 May 2014 09: 37
      +12
      Quote: Nagan
      Well, what is there to enjoy? The Chinese are stealing the construction, as they stole before, and will come out with almost the same MI-26, only significantly cheaper, on the world market.

      Copying makes sense for mass helicopters where there is demand. MI-26 is not so massive and the demand for copies will not be enormous even despite the price. It makes sense just to steal technology, and not copy in this case.
      It’s interesting how the cars for China will differ, probably the dragon will be drawn on the sides of the whole car?
      1. Deadmen
        Deadmen 24 May 2014 18: 14
        +1
        windshields will be similar to the eyes of the Chinese such alkalis
    2. yushch
      yushch 24 May 2014 12: 28
      +4
      I think the people who are developing and implementing this deal, the option of plagiarism, on the part of our Chinese comrades, took into account.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 24 May 2014 13: 48
        +6
        Quote: yushch
        I think the people who are developing and implementing this deal, the option of plagiarism, on the part of our Chinese comrades, took into account.

        Of course, consider! And included in the price of a bribe! When merchants lead a country, the only question is price.
      2. sven93
        sven93 24 May 2014 14: 47
        +1
        optimism is amazing .. with Ukraine, China it remains to be lairing ... in reality, all the engines are released by the MS, someone will get enough ...
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 24 May 2014 21: 14
      0
      Quote: Nagan
      The Chinese are making a construction

      Back in 2010, China already had 3 Mi-26 helicopters. So you should not worry, if you wanted and could copy - now you would not buy.
  3. Rash
    Rash 24 May 2014 07: 31
    +5
    Quote: Nagan
    Well, what is there to enjoy? The Chinese are stealing the construction, as they stole before, and will come out with almost the same MI-26, only significantly cheaper, on the world market.

    And where to go? The largest helicopters are needed by the largest countries. But America will not buy them for sure. Asian tigers remain.
  4. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 24 May 2014 07: 31
    +5
    Modernization for China: two-deck passenger option + external seats on the suspension? laughing (Joke).
    Quote: Nagan
    Well, what is there to enjoy? The Chinese are stealing the construction, as they stole before, and will come out with almost the same MI-26, only significantly cheaper, on the world market.

    But how to really protect yourself from this option? what
    1. Alez
      Alez 24 May 2014 08: 19
      +4
      Constantly improve the design, improve efficiency, durability, etc. Then China will be in the role of catching up.
  5. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 24 May 2014 07: 36
    +6
    The expression can someone explain to me, the helicopter pilot: what does it mean "regarding the appearance of the helicopter"? Or does aerodynamics work in China according to a different law, or in the form of a dragon?
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 24 May 2014 09: 45
      +3
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      what does "in relation to the appearance of helicopters" mean?

      Tourist sovetiko! Looks like morality! What can smart write (napиsat) people who did not serve the helicopters? Only words in the "common man" dialect.
    2. Alex 241
      Alex 241 24 May 2014 11: 56
      +3
      [/ Center]
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      "regarding the appearance of the helicopters"?

      Dim hi. This is called a marketing move. We say they said, and now you think.
    3. VAF
      VAF 24 May 2014 14: 15
      +1
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      : what does "relative to the appearance of the helicopter" mean? Or does aerodynamics work in China under a different law, or in the form?


      Hello, Dmitry! That's okay, but ..Quote from the article ".... the Mil cost center will be engaged in the production of machines." belay
      Zavod.kotory all his life engaged only in the development and pilot operation of helicopters,



      all of a sudden, by ... "the dictates of a pike and ... someone's will, it suddenly becomes a pillar of mass production wassat
      And then the question is for the afftor, and ROSTVERTOL where .... sent .. by the forest request

      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 24 May 2014 21: 07
        0
        Quote: vaf
        and ROSTVERTOL where .... sent .. by the forest

        How can you send him if he rivets these same Mi-26s? Here from. Rostvertol site.
        1. VAF
          VAF 24 May 2014 21: 49
          +1
          Quote: Bayonet
          How can it be sent


          So I am about the same, but it can be seen "air hastens from the media .. not in the know wassat

          Quote: Bayonet
          these same Mi-26 rivets? Here from. Rostvertol site.


          I myself .... from Rostov bully and I’m much more likely to visit Nagibin Avenue than ... look at the official websites wink
      2. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 25 May 2014 05: 36
        0
        Sasha! Sergey! Greetings! hi The glass cabin and the painting of the super-duper metallic is not new. And not the look. Indeed, I had to think about this marketing! laughing About ROSVERTOL even I did not remember from bewilderment!
  6. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 24 May 2014 07: 41
    +4
    It didn’t fit in. And the quick-witted brothers will copy.
    1. 0255
      0255 24 May 2014 15: 03
      +1
      they want the Su-35 when they have their own "5th generation fighters" J-20 and J-31, which have no analogues and the best in the world. Now they are asking for the Mi-26, when they promised to create their own version of the Soviet Mi-12.
  7. mirag2
    mirag2 24 May 2014 07: 45
    +5
    All this "integration" with China is not only dangerous, no, but I probably had to sacrifice something. And the benefit from contacts is not only money for gas (most likely and not only) - the most important job for people, a boost for the economy , foreign policy strengthening of Russia.
    I admit that Putin did not want to admit the Chinese to anything, either to aviation, or to the joint development of the Far East, but I had to do it.
    Most importantly, our industry will work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ps my wife moved to another defense enterprise — I have more money, to the fact that our defense enterprises begin to work specifically with military orders. At her previous enterprise, under the new military order, equipment and equipment were installed, and the personnel were weaned to work on it. And another company has earned (by the way electronics).
  8. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 24 May 2014 07: 52
    +2
    We work. Not everything, really good, but not too bad. All are loaded on the most "I can not". It is for VSA electronics, few people believe, but ours do it as it should!
  9. sv68
    sv68 24 May 2014 08: 22
    +2
    we’ll build five together, then the Chinese will refuse to say, long fall is long, and they will begin to stamp copies on a 3D printer, seven thousand Chinese with sledgehammers and files, and we, as always, are at 3,14 hours, it’s Nasa Pldumava
  10. fox21h
    fox21h 24 May 2014 09: 12
    +3
    If they simply sell products assembled in Russia, then this is good.
    The main thing is not to sell technology to them. And then again they will copy and repaint and will say that this is a purely Chinese development.
  11. propolsky
    propolsky 24 May 2014 09: 46
    +2
    A good helicopter, and with us it didn’t open to the end, sorry ...
  12. K-36
    K-36 24 May 2014 09: 47
    +4
    Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
    We work. Not everything, really good, but not too bad. All are loaded on the most "I can not". It is for the aircraft.And few people believe electronics, but ours do it right!

    Furthermore. Here is a film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7LIPTEaZuI) that there are microelectronic technologies in the Russian Federation that are ready to leave behind everything "super-duper Japanese". It remains to ponder why these technologies are not given a boost in Russia. And whose Surnames are behind this "keep out."
    hi
  13. siberalt
    siberalt 24 May 2014 09: 58
    +1
    It’s not a secret to anyone that China will fish out our highest technology for a gas contract.
  14. jovanni
    jovanni 24 May 2014 10: 20
    +1
    It’s good that those who have to make helicopters will make helicopters. And not pots and lanterns, as it was recently ...
    So in our factory, thanks to the Chinese, they again began to make electronic warfare equipment, and not irons ...
  15. Giant thought
    Giant thought 24 May 2014 11: 04
    +1
    Joint cooperation in production is a step forward, as they say, one head is good, and two is better. You can improve the design of MI-26, because its main construct was thought out for a long time, time goes on, new materials, technologies appear, and using all the new products our designers can create another masterpiece.
  16. Nitarius
    Nitarius 24 May 2014 11: 50
    0
    GUYS - we need an alliance with China! WELL SO! CHINA PRINCIPLE WAS NOT AN ENEMY FOR US
    so in vain you are so. BUT attentive to it
    1. 0255
      0255 24 May 2014 15: 12
      0
      yeah, he wasn’t an enemy, but in 1929 he wanted to take Amurye away from the USSR, in the 1960s he also wanted to chop off part of the Far East from the RSFSR. Even a project was developed for the M-25 aircraft at Myasishchev Design Bureau to fight the Chinese, which would jam them with a sound wave.
  17. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 24 May 2014 13: 06
    +1
    Great helicopter ...
    I am for the supply of high-tech products. The only risk of trading with China ... from which no one is safe is the urge to copy.
  18. semuil
    semuil 24 May 2014 15: 39
    0
    And there the most important thing is not even the engine, the most important thing is the gearbox. So far, no one could copy it. Ps What does it mean now such friendship, where technology can be thrown? consolidation of "friendship"? Not such a frail fit.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 24 May 2014 21: 23
      0
      Quote: semuil
      .What now does friendship mean where technology can be rushed?

      Where does this information come from? Well, do not take your own fools.
  19. Cristall
    Cristall 24 May 2014 16: 41
    +1
    I wonder what modification of the Mi 26?
    Motor Sich presents a new engine for the Mi-26T2
    At the HeliRussia 2014 exhibition, the Ukrainian corporation Ivchenko-Progress is once again showing the D-136-2 helicopter engine. For the first time its layout was presented a year ago, but now, according to the representatives of Ivchenko-Progress, the company is already assembling the first two copies.
    This improved version of the base D-136 is designed for use on the upgraded transport helicopter Mi-26T2. It provides power at a maximum takeoff mode of 11500 liters. C., which is maintained at a temperature of 40 ° C. An emergency mode with a capacity of 136 liters was also introduced on the D-2-12200. with.
    The Mi-26T2 is the most modern version of a heavy transport helicopter being developed by the Russian Helicopters holding. The helicopter received a "glass cockpit" with five multifunctional LCD displays, two PS-7 control panels and a set of redundant electromechanical devices, visual control systems during the day and night. The navigation complex includes a GPS system (A-737) with NAVSTAR / GLONASS support, an inertial navigation system and a Doppler velocity component. According to Russian Helicopters, the first export order for the Mi-26T2 has already been received.
    D-136-2
    D-136-2 turboshaft gas turbine engine is designed for the power plant of the Mi-26T2 helicopter. This will allow during the upgrade to significantly improve the flight characteristics of the Mi-26T and Mi-26 helicopters in hot climates and highlands.
    The D-136-2 engine is developed on the basis of the D-136 series 1 and D-436T1 serial engines and has a high degree of unification with them, which will significantly reduce the time, cost of its creation and certification.
    Specifications:
    Emergency mode (Н = 0, Мп = 0, МСА + 15 ° С):
    Horsepower (kW) 12500 (9190)
    Maximum take-off mode (Н = 0, Мп = 0, МСА):
    Power (at tH = 30 ° C), hp (kW) 11650 (8560)
    Specific fuel consumption, kg / hp / h (kg / kWh) * 0,198 (0,269)
    Dry weight, kg 1110
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 24 May 2014 21: 26
      +1
      He is not in the photo.
  20. Cristall
    Cristall 24 May 2014 16: 49
    0
    Turbine gas turbine engine D-136-2
    Based on the characteristics - is done for Asians ..
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 25 May 2014 18: 06
      0
      Then why was this picture inserted? Yesterday, 16:41
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