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Kiev makes water for Crimea "golden"

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According to the Crimean authorities, the Ukrainian side, for its part, installs water meters on the North-Crimean Canal. This is done to take into account "every drop" of water, the price of which for the Crimeans Kiev plans to raise about 50 times. If such a tangible price increase occurs, it will take approximately 1,2 billion rubles from the Crimean budget in addition. Reports about it ITAR-TASS.


Kiev makes water for Crimea "golden"


Chairman of the State Council of the Republic of Crimea, Vladimir Konstantinov, said that this state of affairs is unacceptable. We need to look for an alternative to the supply of water from Ukraine, and, according to him, the Crimea has such an alternative. One of the ways out of a difficult situation is to minimize water losses for irrigation of agricultural land. According to the management of the Republic of Crimea, today such losses reach almost 60%.

More than half a century, the North-Crimean Canal was the main aquifer for the Crimea. Through it, the peninsula received more than 80% water. In late April, Kiev decided to stop the supply of water to residents of the Crimea, saying that it was not he who blocks the water, but the fact that the Crimean authorities themselves could not figure out the effective operation of pumping stations. However, photographs of the dry entry point of the North-Crimean Canal proved that the Maidan authorities are once again lying.

After the conditions of Kiev on the 50-fold increase in the price of water for the Crimea, the Government of the Republic decided not to spend money on repairing the canal, believing that even on such conditions Kiev would not give water, but would simply take a lot of money from the Crimeans.

Acting Head of the Republic Sergey Aksyonov:

For our sake, from the point of view of calculations, these questions (about the repair of the canal - note “VO”) were cut off for an indefinite period. We believe that Ukraine will not give us water.


Ukrainian media (UNIAN) after such a decision, the Crimean authorities came out with materials that Aksyonov was ruining Crimean rice-growing.
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  1. storm wind
    storm wind 23 May 2014 17: 36
    +34
    This dibilism will not end for a long time ... We must get out of it ourselves and forget about the channel for a while. And saved money can be used with much greater benefit.
    1. Rblipetsk
      Rblipetsk 23 May 2014 17: 45
      +9
      Quote: Storm Wind
      This dibilism will not end for a long time ..

      how much rope does not curl ...
      1. avg
        avg 23 May 2014 18: 46
        +19
        It would be necessary for the great Ukrainians to recall that the Dnieper begins in Russia.
        1. kotyara
          kotyara 23 May 2014 18: 50
          0
          Stupid! Where do we turn the Dnieper? Let’s go through the Kuban to Crimea?
          1. atalef
            atalef 23 May 2014 19: 33
            +6
            Quote: cat
            Stupid! Where do we turn the Dnieper? Let’s go through the Kuban to Crimea?

            The drain of natural reservoirs and rivers. if it passes through the territory of more than one state it is regulated at the level of international laws. No one has the right to divert or block the natural river flows.
            1. Muadipus
              Muadipus 23 May 2014 19: 59
              +31
              Dam - blow up!
              Yatsenyuk and others like him - feet in cement and the Dnieper!

              PS. and what? all according to international concepts, they hanged Hussein, they shot Gaddafi ... they drowned Yatsenyuk and Turchinov ... all according to concepts. Even bloodthirsty Americans will be satisfied with such a sacrifice.
              1. POCC
                POCC 23 May 2014 21: 00
                +1
                Stop clanking with this scum it’s time to revive the USSR Ukraine we take back this garbage (Tymoshenko Turchinov rabbit, etc., and the right sector) to the expense And Putin’s bench press bench promised to touch people will intervene WELL AND WHERE?
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              2. O_RUS
                O_RUS 23 May 2014 23: 44
                +1
                Quote: Muadipus
                Yatsenyuk and others like him


                another confirmation of what makes power with a Ukrainian.

                It is impossible for children to give matches so a Ukrainian cannot be given power.
              3. Revolver
                Revolver 24 May 2014 04: 52
                0
                Quote: Muadipus
                Yatsenyuk and others like him - feet in cement and the Dnieper!

                Do you have Italian blood? This is a favorite trick of the Italian mafia in America, called "cement shoes" laughing
                The idea is not bad, good although, in my opinion, it’s more correct to put them on a stake. Aspen hi
            2. botsman80
              botsman80 23 May 2014 22: 32
              +2
              Yes, Ukrainians spat on any laws! Question: why then should we fulfill them? As they say: to live with wolves - howl like a wolf.
            3. andj61
              andj61 23 May 2014 22: 49
              0
              The flow of the Dnieper as a river does not pass through the Crimea. This situation - the separation of the state - is quite unique. Here you need to either negotiate or solve this problem in other ways. This means that there will be no rice growing in Crimea. It’s bad, of course, and rice was grown there excellent, but rice will become gold at such prices. And still, the threat of blackmail will remain.
            4. atarix
              atarix 24 May 2014 00: 05
              0
              Quote: atalef
              The drain of natural reservoirs and rivers. if it passes through the territory of more than one state it is regulated at the level of international laws. No one has the right to divert or block the natural river flows.

              Tell the Chinese. Interestingly they listen to?
            5. Alekseev
              Alekseev 24 May 2014 11: 52
              0
              Quote: atalef
              No one has the right to divert or block the natural river flows.

              You can let the dung be brought into the Dnieper a few thousand tons, for the emergence of kiyans correct associations. (joke yes)
              And about
              Quote: cat
              Where do we turn the Dnieper? Let’s go through the Kuban to Crimea?

              We won’t turn the Dnieper. No.
              But the aqueduct from the Kuban is a holy cause. There, only 100 km of pipes can be laid, or maybe less.
              And economical, at the level of modern technology, water consumption for agriculture and industry, and in everyday life too.
              And as a "punishment" for rudeness in the water issue, Ukraine will not receive enough money, let it drain it into the Black Sea. Rice will rise in price a little
              do not let food from Ukraine to Moscow, what ASF there or what kind of infection can not be found? All my life they were whining that they were taking everything out of them, eat calmly yourself. yes
        2. Suhov
          Suhov 23 May 2014 20: 15
          +3
          Quote: avg
          It would be necessary for the great Ukrainians to recall that the Dnieper begins in Russia.

          "training" memory:
          1. Sergey S.
            Sergey S. 23 May 2014 20: 22
            +6
            Apparently the wait is not long.

            The knot will be tied
            Where will China unleash
            Ukraine without port, by the water will be ...
        3. Erg
          Erg 23 May 2014 23: 06
          0
          Through the Batko still flows. So let’s go down guys, otherwise we can hook our own
      2. tol100v
        tol100v 23 May 2014 22: 53
        0
        A LOOP WILL BE DRESSED!
      3. GRANATE-19
        GRANATE-19 23 May 2014 22: 57
        0
        Quote: RBLipetsk
        how much rope does not curl ...

        How much rope does not curl, still knit a loop!
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    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 23 May 2014 17: 46
      +16
      Advisers to the Kiev junta are known to everyone .. (it’s not yet evening and not winter ..) Although I think these in Kiev will not survive until winter ...
      1. jktu66
        jktu66 23 May 2014 18: 13
        +5
        Advisers of the Kiev junta are known to everyone ..
        the ghouls-huntyats certainly do not have their own mind. The mind is completely replaced by hatred of "m.s.k.a.l.yu"
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 23 May 2014 17: 48
      +16
      Statement by the Ministry of Transport of the DPR (23.05.2014)
      On the Shterovka-Shchetovo railway line, 57 km, near the settlements of Kazakovka and Orlovka, 1 charge was blown up, destroying the railway track. In the immediate vicinity of the incident, 2 saboteurs were detained - during the initial survey of which it turned out that 3 more radio-controlled charges were laid. In this regard, it is not possible to carry out repairs on this site. At the moment, work is underway to detect and render harmless the charges. Because of the incident, the DPR railway was unable to supply about 700 cars for loading coal, the supply with mines was disrupted - miners have 2-3 days to work without unloading! This is a deliberate provocation of Kiev, in order to leave the miners without work and thereby set them against the DPR and LPR. Mobilized the forces of militias and workers of the railway of the DPR to restore the normal functioning of the site.
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 23 May 2014 17: 52
        +18
        ..... Bind the dagger to the saboteur tomatoes and jerk ..... Put the video on YouTube so that it would be disgraceful for others ... UkROSMI shout that the militia jerked ...
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 23 May 2014 17: 51
      +12
      Babai about the dead under the Grace.

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      2. Aryan
        Aryan 23 May 2014 22: 12
        +1
        if there is no water in the tap
        then drank x0hli drinks
    5. armageddon
      armageddon 23 May 2014 18: 04
      +7
      Well no! Bender did not have long ... And they will give water !!! They will block the gas ... Let them DOWNLOAD !!!
      1. kocclissi
        kocclissi 23 May 2014 18: 11
        +6
        Euro jackals, have jackals actions! What to take from the wretched ....... and in the mattress they are used to black and Latin shrimp, they think and will pass here!
      2. Serg 122
        Serg 122 23 May 2014 18: 21
        +5
        And they will give water !!! They will block the gas ...
        Somehow there was a broadcast that more than 90% of all gas produced in Ukraine is produced in Crimea. This gas (as it was shown) goes through pipes to the "square". Question: Where is the water then? In my opinion, there should be some kind of "cheindch" instead. Is not it so? No.
        1. mamont5
          mamont5 23 May 2014 18: 30
          +5
          Quote: Serg 122
          This gas (as shown) goes through pipes to the "square".


          Already not coming. Everything was nationalized right away.
        2. revnagan
          revnagan 23 May 2014 20: 49
          0
          Quote: Serg 122
          Somehow, there was a transfer that in the Crimea more than 90% of all gas produced in Ukraine is produced.

          Not true. Gas in Ukraine is mainly produced in the Bandera region and in the Sumy region (Akhtyrka). Things have not come to gas production on the shelf.
      3. kotyara
        kotyara 23 May 2014 18: 52
        +2
        They will produce pea gas!
      4. podpolkovnik
        podpolkovnik 23 May 2014 20: 49
        +3
        The future of Ukraine ....
        I would like to recall one funny episode that happened at a meeting between Vladimir Putin and German businessmen. “You don’t want gas, you don’t develop nuclear energy, and what, you will, heat wood?” We also need to go to Siberia for firewood. You see, you don’t even have firewood, ”the Russian leader joked to the loud laughter of German businessmen in November 2010 ...
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    7. Interface
      Interface 23 May 2014 18: 17
      +11
      Kiev makes water for Crimea "golden"


      Dill shows little 480 $
      1. GRANATE-19
        GRANATE-19 23 May 2014 23: 14
        0
        Quote: Interface
        Dill shows little 480 $

        485 $
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    8. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 23 May 2014 18: 29
      +8
      The solution is extremely simple - the Crimean people, the Cossack hundred helps Kherson - to capture the SBU and air traffic control, etc. hi
      1. ty60
        ty60 23 May 2014 19: 57
        +4
        Crimean Tatar is better. Yarosh will be happy.
    9. ty60
      ty60 23 May 2014 19: 51
      +2
      already got out with the help of wells and turning rivers into the canal. Turchinov on the mattress buried money from the water and to install counters. It will not pass into the presidency.
    10. yushch
      yushch 23 May 2014 20: 32
      +5
      I support, since it turns out such a mess, then the rice needs to be replaced with other agricultural products. crops with minimal water requirements. And drip irrigation, although it requires serious equipment, is very effective in conditions of lack of water. A good example is Israel.
    11. AVV
      AVV 23 May 2014 20: 40
      +1
      Quote: gale
      This dibilism will not end for a long time ... We must get out of it ourselves and forget about the channel for a while. And saved money can be used with much greater benefit.

      They also need to raise the price of gas 50 times !!!
    12. PAM
      PAM 23 May 2014 20: 56
      +1
      Fortunately, desalination filters have ceased to be a golden example: Israel, the desert and everything in the gardens even manage to export oranges.
    13. 225chay
      225chay 23 May 2014 21: 26
      0
      Quote: Storm Wind
      This dibilism will not end for a long time ... We must get out of it ourselves and forget about the channel for a while.

      Ukraine will not give water, and if it does, then it will show how to carrot, then hide.
      Hope only for yourself.
      There should be options, because the construction of the canal was somehow done ...
    14. dmitrich
      dmitrich 24 May 2014 05: 31
      0
      Ukraine itself needs water, to drown Bandera.
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 23 May 2014 17: 36
    +6
    ordinary fascism.
    trying to get through water for gas?
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 23 May 2014 17: 53
      +5
      Quote: andrei332809
      ordinary fascism.
      trying to get through water for gas?

      The so-called revenge for the Crimea; it’s time to calm down, Uncle Sam will wipe the snot.
      1. podpolkovnik
        podpolkovnik 23 May 2014 20: 50
        +17
        Quote: subbtin.725
        Quote: andrei332809
        ordinary fascism.
        trying to get through water for gas?

        The so-called revenge for the Crimea; it’s time to calm down, Uncle Sam will wipe the snot.

        The mouth of the child speaks the truth:
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 23 May 2014 20: 54
          +1
          Quote: podpolkovnik
          The mouth of the child speaks the truth:

          ha.class good
    2. aleks 62
      aleks 62 23 May 2014 18: 01
      +14
      Quote: andrei332809
      ordinary fascism.
      trying to get through water for gas?

      .... We will tolerate without irrigation water, but we need to revise the contract price for gas for Dill (up to a factor of 2-3) .... And then we'll see who will be more interesting ... And maybe 50 .. ...
      1. kocclissi
        kocclissi 23 May 2014 18: 15
        +5
        It seems to me that these earhooks will not be paid even if the price is $ 20! They don’t tell me from the mattress ......
      2. Serg 122
        Serg 122 23 May 2014 18: 22
        +2
        Uncle Sam snot dries ...
        More cookies tossed ...
    3. atalef
      atalef 23 May 2014 19: 36
      -4
      Quote: andrei332809
      ordinary fascism.
      trying to get through water for gas?

      someone blocks the gas. someone is water. Someone sets the price of gas - like what. someone into the water. Parity (at least)
      In general, it was necessary to bring 2 fraternal peoples to that. that one another blocks the water
      1. ty60
        ty60 23 May 2014 20: 04
        +5
        and here it’s not true. The price is not higher than the European one. At the same time, Europe is a reliable payer. Plus, the opportunity to earn on the transit of our gas. Launching the South Stream will allow you to do without it. Plus delivery to China. Do not jump!
    4. yur
      yur 23 May 2014 22: 47
      0
      Quote: andrei332809
      trying to get through water for gas?
      There, the cost of ALL water is less than 40 million "green". What is there to get back. fool
  3. Morgan
    Morgan 23 May 2014 17: 39
    +2
    Turn off the gas in general !!!!
    1. atalef
      atalef 23 May 2014 19: 37
      -1
      Quote: Morgan
      Turn off the gas in general !!

      More correct than GAZ and AT ALL hi
  4. seregakursk
    seregakursk 23 May 2014 17: 39
    +8
    On what area "square" there is a channel? It is necessary to hold a referendum there quickly and the water issue will be resolved. They say the military of Novorossiya will not stop at the border of their regions and will begin a national liberation movement throughout the country, they will drive the Pravosek people to Kiev and beyond. So they need to turn a little further south and attach a couple of important regions to New Russia.
    1. psg72
      psg72 23 May 2014 19: 36
      0
      Kherson region while a little far away. But nothing has its time.
    2. Drednout
      Drednout 23 May 2014 21: 44
      0
      Quote: seregakursk
      We must hold a referendum there quickly and the issue of water will be resolved.

      If everything is so simple. There are no longer people, but zombies.
  5. Bootlegger
    Bootlegger 23 May 2014 17: 40
    +2
    For the price of a junta, a channel with mineral water Evian can fill Russia.
  6. fly fishing
    fly fishing 23 May 2014 17: 41
    +7
    Cheaper to buy water from the Chinese with delivery)))
  7. pts-m
    pts-m 23 May 2014 17: 41
    +12
    For example, Israel DOESN'T Cry about a small amount of fresh water, but uses technologies for irrigation and LIVES! And let Ukraine sell water to Amer-Yankees in the Ukraine, and what a completely “friendly exchange” between “FRIENDS”!
    1. Evgeny_Lev
      Evgeny_Lev 23 May 2014 17: 52
      +2
      Does Israel grow a lot of rice?
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 23 May 2014 18: 27
        +5
        Speaking of rice!
        Ukrainian media (UNIAN) after such a decision of the Crimean authorities came out with materials stating that Aksyonov was ruining Crimean rice production.
        Why did the Ukrainian media suddenly become concerned about the problems of rice growing? And also on Russian territory? They have few other problems? I think for 1,2 lard the problem with water and without ukrov will solve. not this year, so next
        1. mamont5
          mamont5 23 May 2014 18: 33
          +11
          Quote: Serg 122
          Why did the Ukrainian media suddenly become concerned about the problems of rice growing?


          So after all, this rice almost all went to Ukraine. And now he will not be. And its own seed is fucked. So they are crying. And the fact is not aware that they themselves did it. For, as the Russian proverb says: "Do not dig a hole for another, otherwise you yourself will fall into it."
          1. ty60
            ty60 23 May 2014 20: 07
            +3
            in the Saratov Tatars it sounds different - Do not dig a hole for another, you’ll get there yourself. The result is already visible.
          2. GRANATE-19
            GRANATE-19 23 May 2014 23: 26
            0
            Quote: mamont5
            "Don't dig a hole for another, otherwise you yourself will fall into it."

            "Do not dig a hole for another, otherwise you will be @ yourself in it!"
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        2. O_RUS
          O_RUS 23 May 2014 23: 53
          0
          Quote: Serg 122
          Why did the Ukrainian media suddenly become concerned about the problems of rice growing? And also on Russian territory? Are they not enough of other problems?


          But Ukraine still has land not leased to other states?
      2. atalef
        atalef 23 May 2014 19: 47
        +3
        Quote: Evgeny_Lev
        Does Israel grow a lot of rice?

        Little . but grows
        Although enough to say. that we generally fully provide ourselves with vegetables. that fruit, and even export to the whole world. With that. that with water we somehow do not really
        Just use it.
        Here, Israel is a world leader, about 80% of waste and wastewater is recycled and reused for agricultural needs. This is a revolution and it is built on several key elements. The main ones are: separation and purification of water and pollution, treatment plants and plants for the restoration and complete treatment of water. Today, over 95% of the Israeli population uses sewage systems that are connected to various cleaning systems. Located in the suburbs of Tel Aviv, the Shafdan Mechanical-Biological Water Processing and Treatment Plant is part of the region’s national system for collecting, treating and completely processing sewage and waste water. The plant processes about 400 cubic meters of water per day. Then, the Israeli water company supplies this water to the Negev desert region, thus supplying about 000% of the water consumed to the agriculture of this arid region.
        2) Irrigation systems instead of open canals. Israel has transformed its water supply systems to fields from open canals into various drip irrigation systems. Drip irrigation is the best and most well-known technology for effective water use, developed in Israel and which allows to increase productivity with a minimum level of water use. Drip irrigation systems have many advantages. Open channels lead to a huge amount of evaporating water, which is simply lost, they do not allow monitoring the amount of water consumed by plants. Sometimes open channels become clogged, which leads to excessive irrigation and water overruns, and also ruins crops. The latest drip irrigation systems are equipped with computer systems that regulate the supply of fertilizers directly to the roots of the plants, pressure droppers guarantee accurate and metered distribution of water, temperature monitoring, pesticides and essential minerals.
  8. jekasimf
    jekasimf 23 May 2014 17: 42
    +17
    Now it rains constantly in Crimea. Everything rushes up and without watering. If in the north of Crimea change rice for other crops. That is enough of our own water. We have several rivers that stupidly pour into the sea ...
    1. atalef
      atalef 23 May 2014 19: 51
      -1
      Quote: jekasimf
      now in the Crimea it constantly rains. Everything rushes up and without watering. If in the north of Crimea change rice to other crops. That is enough of our own water. We have several rivers that stupidly pour into the sea.

      No nonsense. In Crimea, it rained for centuries, until a canal was built - it was a waterless steppe.
      Turning the river (as you say) is a project of not a single day or even a year. This is generally a problem. and the rivers are dead there.
      Artesian wells are not an option. just saline water layers.
      Therefore, water in the Crimea is a problem.
      Yes . what should I say . in Yevpatoriya, water was always supplied only in the mornings and evenings - and this was in Soviet times.
    2. jPilot
      jPilot 23 May 2014 22: 44
      +1
      Here, in Krasnodar, the rice is growing enough. Let them plant everything with grapes, it will fly all over Russia with a bang. Not to mention good wine, and juice will also be in demand. Send people to study in Israel using drip irrigation. It would be a desire issues to be resolved.
  9. fox21h
    fox21h 23 May 2014 17: 42
    +1
    Yes, these creatures will pack for a long time, something must be done with them
  10. Juborg
    Juborg 23 May 2014 17: 44
    +4
    For that kind of money, it’s easier to build desalination plants. They will cost cheaper, and there will be no dependence on fascists.
    1. aleks 62
      aleks 62 23 May 2014 17: 57
      +19
      ..... It’s easier not to desalinate, but to squeeze money from gas for gas (16 lard) and build a water pipe from the Kuban - it will be cheaper at times ... And let water be pumped at that price to yourself in tukhas .... Artesian cheaper ... Wheat will be a normal crop, and rice ... well, no luck so far growing it in the Crimea ... They will be brought from Krasnodar ....
      1. datur
        datur 23 May 2014 19: 11
        0
        in general I was surprised --- CRIMEA and rice !!!
      2. Flinky
        Flinky 23 May 2014 19: 15
        0
        In the Kuban, your water is not so much so, and you are still in the Crimea offering to throw a pipe.
    2. atalef
      atalef 23 May 2014 19: 55
      -1
      Quote: juborg
      For that kind of money, it’s easier to build desalination plants. They will cost cheaper, and there will be no dependence on fascists.

      not easier - this is 9 times at least it takes time and money)
      Israel launched the world's largest water desalination plant based on reverse osmosis technology. The construction is located on the Mediterranean coast in the city of Hadera, the news agency Reuters reported. The installation can desalinate 127 million cubic meters of sea water per year, which will provide 20% of demand from Israeli households.
      The Hadera plant was the third among five plants, the construction of which Israel plans to complete within a few years. According to the agency, their total capacity will be 750 million cubic meters of water per year.
      Construction of the facility, cost $ 425 million

      I'm not talking about the huge amount of electricity consumed by them (therefore, all are built next to electricity stations)
      By the way, with electricity in the Crimea the same problem.
  11. parus2nik
    parus2nik 23 May 2014 17: 45
    +6
    For more than half a century, the North Crimean Canal has been the main aquifer for Crimea ... But before that, Crimea was not a desert ... they’ll find a way out .. Let’s get along .. Let them choke ..
  12. subbtin.725
    subbtin.725 23 May 2014 17: 48
    +5
    In the near future, this channel will not be dill. But in general, nothing sacred, neither to yourself nor to people. Even on people's grief at a more or less reasonable price they don’t want to make money; some insanity. And everyone cries that there is no money. In principle, why be surprised, the Yankees are commanding. Sorry ..., for these huge funds, you can simply buy this rice; of course, this is not an option. Glory to Russia!
  13. Mikros
    Mikros 23 May 2014 17: 51
    +17
    It seems to me alone that it is easier and cheaper to solve the Crimean water problem by joining the South-East to Crimea?
    1. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 23 May 2014 18: 32
      +8
      No, not one.
    2. psg72
      psg72 23 May 2014 19: 53
      +6
      Well then, it is necessary at the same time the problem of helicopter engines, etc.
  14. VD chauvinist
    VD chauvinist 23 May 2014 17: 51
    +5
    Well, it was not difficult to predict. It seems that it is necessary to solve the problem of a shortage of fresh water in the Crimea and on the Taman Peninsula in an integrated way. Who has been to Yeysk knows. And by the way, it’s not so difficult. Now there are plastic pipes of large diameters - cheaper, lighter, more durable than steel, and they are also mounted faster. And, of course, the volume of reservoirs must be increased.
  15. Arh
    Arh 23 May 2014 17: 52
    +1
    It is necessary to make water desalination plants, from the Crimean rivers to make canals and reservoirs !!!
    1. xan
      xan 23 May 2014 19: 17
      +3
      Quote: Arh
      It is necessary to make water desalination

      Desalination is expensive, and the water is not natural.
      Quote: Arh
      from the Crimean rivers to make canals and reservoirs !!!

      That's right, if it’s not enough - water pipelines from the Kuban, or change s / x culture to drought tolerant.
  16. Gloria45
    Gloria45 23 May 2014 17: 52
    +15
    Ukrainian media (UNIAN) after such a decision of the Crimean authorities came out with materials stating that Aksyonov was ruining Crimean rice production.

    My subjective opinion, as Crimean women, is ambiguous to rice growing in Crimea.
    It's almost the same as arranging the same rice checks in the Sahara, for example. Maybe it makes sense to find some alternative agricultural less labor-intensive, not requiring such costs and efforts with water? I emphasize, this is my subjective opinion, I do not impose it on anyone
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 23 May 2014 18: 32
      0
      rice growing in Crimea.
      Rice can exclusively grow ONLY in the north of Crimea ?! There is no water there - it means to the south! winked
    2. psg72
      psg72 23 May 2014 20: 01
      +10
      My same subjective opinion is that rice can be replaced with grapes and not only wine varieties, but always table ones. Enough to eat imported muck. And about the golden hands of Crimean winemakers, I generally keep quiet.
    3. 225chay
      225chay 23 May 2014 21: 36
      +2
      Quote: gloria45
      My subjective opinion, as Crimean women, is ambiguous to rice growing in Crimea.
      It's almost the same as arranging the same rice checks in the Sahara, for example. Maybe it makes sense to find some alternative agricultural less labor-intensive, not requiring such costs and efforts with water? I emphasize, this is my subjective opinion, I do not impose it on anyone

      all right. To grow rice in Crimea now makes no sense.
      many other crops that will be perfectly cultivated
  17. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever 23 May 2014 17: 53
    +11
    "The Ukrainian media (UNIAN), after such a decision of the Crimean authorities, came out with materials that Aksyonov ruins the Crimean rice growing." - With the coming to power of American appointees in Kiev, and they can be considered legitimate only strictly for Kiev in the place where no more than 2-3 thousand people were elected by the Maidan, and then, at gunpoint, they simply arrogated to themselves the right to dispose of public services, then They have the same media. After all, it is impossible to forget how they burst into the editorial office and the gangster plan was created. The fact that journalists are not allowed to cover the presidential elections - the CEC gives accreditation, and the border service gives the same journalists at the border - a turnaround, but this is all in the spirit of American exceptional "democracy. Enemies today are all those who do not agree with the US dictatorship, and the policy of the Kiev junta is part of such a policy and the media provides them with information support. The "King" may be "naked, but the information space around him must be filled - albeit with outright lies
    1. psg72
      psg72 23 May 2014 20: 05
      0
      I'm afraid that it’s already blood.
  18. Giant thought
    Giant thought 23 May 2014 17: 55
    +1
    The monkey and glasses are about the Kiev junta.
    1. Gloria45
      Gloria45 23 May 2014 18: 29
      +2
      Quote: Giant thought
      The monkey and glasses are about the Kiev junta.


      .... and point laughing .... everything is already
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  19. Timoshka
    Timoshka 23 May 2014 17: 56
    +2
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin!
    Or maybe we will file a claim with Ukraine in an international court? Let them return our lands to us !!! Given by tsars and V.I. Lenin ???
    And you Ukrainians - turned away from RUSSIA - will soon have to beg from the GREAT AND UNBEATABLE RUSSIA !!!
    GLORY TO RUSSIA!!!
    1. aleks 62
      aleks 62 23 May 2014 18: 07
      +7
      .... What are you talking about ??? And who are the judges ????
      1. Timoshka
        Timoshka 23 May 2014 18: 39
        +4
        WE WILL BE JUDGES !!! The court should be in RUSSIA !!!
        I never thought - that in Ukraine - so much shit will come out ...
        But many of the current leadership-lived in the USSR! And got there a FREE EDUCATION !!!
        1. psg72
          psg72 23 May 2014 20: 08
          +2
          The most annoying is that the same pharion with ** and the same was educated in the USSR.
  20. mig31
    mig31 23 May 2014 17: 57
    +3
    Get rid of water dependence and immediately, not just after it, and air, and the wind with clouds will rise in price ...
  21. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 23 May 2014 18: 11
    +3
    The Americans set the task - to mess in Ukraine under the guise of democracy. And this task is being diligently solved. Junts work out the loot.
    And in Crimea, over time, everything will be fine with water. Over half of Greece lives on the islands and does not experience water problems. There is a useful experience - you need to adopt it. There are enough brains and funds.
  22. jovanni
    jovanni 23 May 2014 18: 16
    +6
    Yes, for such grandmothers you can set the completely opposite task for this theirs "blackwater". Let the whole junta be killed, then those who remain will give water. Is free.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 23 May 2014 18: 40
      +3
      Quote: Jovanni
      Yes for such grandmother it is possible to set absolutely opposite task to this theirs "blackwater".


      Not sure it's going to happen. They are not only fighting for the "grandmothers", but also for the favor of the US State Department, otherwise they will live without a license.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 23 May 2014 19: 23
        +2
        Quote: mamont5
        Quote: Jovanni
        Yes for such grandmother it is possible to set absolutely opposite task to this theirs "blackwater".


        Not sure it's going to happen. They are not only fighting for the "grandmothers", but also for the favor of the US State Department, otherwise they will live without a license.


        So then it is! But Jovanni (1 )’s thought is still interesting.
      2. yur
        yur 23 May 2014 23: 08
        0
        Quote: mamont5
        Not sure it's going to happen. They are not only fighting for the "grandmothers", but also for the favor of the US State Department, otherwise they will live without a license.
        Well, ordinary performers somehow sang on the license - "order" fulfilled, got pennies and on the warm islands. laughing
  23. Wolves
    Wolves 23 May 2014 18: 16
    .
    It’s just that the new government needs to drive the locals out of Crimea and free the land - all methods are used - drought, a ban for Ukrainian citizens to have agricultural land, a ban on the import of food, and a restriction on sea fishing - there are no fresh fish either. As they resolve the issue, they will give water.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 23 May 2014 18: 28
      +4
      Cyril, I understand emotions. But think with your head that you are writing. hi
    2. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 23 May 2014 18: 30
      +4
      scatter out of here
    3. ty60
      ty60 23 May 2014 20: 17
      +3
      My friend, is Dzhemilev accidentally not a relative of you?
  24. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 23 May 2014 18: 24
    +6
    Quote: Wolves
    It’s just that the new government needs to drive the locals out of Crimea and free the land - all methods are used - drought, a ban for Ukrainian citizens to have agricultural land, a ban on the import of food, and a restriction on sea fishing - there are no fresh fish either. As they resolve the issue, they will give water.

    You are nonsense, dear! You are a provocateur!
    1. Wolves
      Wolves 23 May 2014 18: 34
      .
      Study the question - the Crimea itself did not turn on the pumps for a month and a half - they are on their territory, on the ground - the law, the fishermen in the ports are in the sea self-defense on boats, the shelves in the stores are empty - this is simple.
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 23 May 2014 18: 41
        +16
        Pumps all reasonable resource came out, and are in Ukraine. And on the shelves in the Crimea heaps .. I somehow know better from here .. And no self-defense on boats ... Where did you get this nonsense?
        1. ty60
          ty60 23 May 2014 20: 18
          +2
          Dzhemilev brought him from Turkey.
      2. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 23 May 2014 18: 54
        +1
        Even if there are some temporary difficulties (and everything went smoothly and could not be), then there is no need to make assumptions about the intentional evil intent of the authorities. Or do you now say in the Maydan style that Putin ordered all the locals to get out of Crimea and build a castle there? Then you didn’t get there, dear.
      3. Orc-xnumx
        Orc-xnumx 23 May 2014 19: 00
        0
        It’s just some kind of Velikoukr hiding behind the tricolor!
      4. Gloria45
        Gloria45 23 May 2014 20: 30
        +2
        Monsieur, have you personally seen all this with your own eyes? Are you standing in line with number 5 ***? Why are you writing lies? Are you just a provocatus vulgaris?
  25. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 23 May 2014 18: 25
    +3
    I think humor is not appropriate, either the Ukrainians leave the zapadenskie provinces and leave alone, nekhai are at war with pshekami if the guts are not thin, or, the complete elimination of relations with these neo-fascists, and let the west guard the pipe, do not recognize this "state" after the 25th.
  26. Russ69
    Russ69 23 May 2014 18: 28
    +1
    Maybe Kherson, just squeeze in favor of New Russia ...
  27. atsurban
    atsurban 23 May 2014 18: 28
    +11
    Present-day Russia has declared itself “the successors of the USSR,” and even confirmed this by paying off external debts. The foolish, by the way, idea, I don’t know whose bright head she visited. It was necessary to immediately recognize themselves as the successors of the Russian Empire, recognizing illegitimate decisions of the so-called Second All-Russian Congress of Soviets and the dissolution of the Constituent Assembly. Here, your diplomats and lawyers would have had a fascinating work for more than one decade. Try to bring into at least some kind of system a pile of domestic and international normative acts that has accumulated over eighty years, none of which are competent by definition ... Not even a single new European state actually exists, because real Russia did not conclude the Brest Peace, I didn’t participate in the Versailles Conference ...
    ... “It seems especially amusing to me to the moment when all your allies and opponents would begin to prove the legitimacy of the October Revolution, the legitimacy of the Bolshevik terrorist government and the legitimacy in this world of just such a solution to the issues of changing social structure.
    1. ty60
      ty60 23 May 2014 20: 22
      +1
      There are no such pluses in my arsenal. I bow for such a vision. Let the Foreign Ministry hear. Something else can be realized.
    2. sniper
      sniper 24 May 2014 01: 11
      0
      Quote: atsurban
      You had to immediately recognize yourself as the successors of the Russian Empire,
      Bravo, my friend !!! good
  28. Cristall
    Cristall 23 May 2014 18: 33
    0
    Water for Crimea is a mini battle of the Information War. One of the so-called "irritating" news for both parties .....
    Let me remind you that the Kherson region (and it is much more significant, since the melon crop also likes water) also depends on the canal ... that is, if we suggest that Kiev is a sea-borne Crimea, it also kills the Kherson region ...
    The water problem needs to be solved, but it’s difficult to solve, it’s hard for Kiev to admit (and I behaved the same way in their place) that Crimea is not Ukrainian, and therefore something must be solved ...
    And directly Moscow Kiev - the Kremlin does not recognize the Kiev authorities ...
    so the stalemate for insinuations - who wrote something to cause a storm of emotions .. You still do not know what they show and write about Crimean Ukrainians (but how many more are there) - that they need to be saved ... I I’m not inclined to trust our media, but logically they definitely have some problems. Maybe transient, or maybe serious (our firms, our assets, equipment and more - you can’t imagine how much our business lost there during the transition, and their losses are not compensated at all) Ukraine’s losses are so significant that it’s sad ...
    1. smile
      smile 23 May 2014 19: 11
      +8
      Cristall
      All that Ukraine lost was lost through the fault of super-independents who came to power, and this happened precisely because, among other things, they fooled Ukrainians with independent propaganda under all presidents, without exception. As a result, they brought the country to complete collapse. Ukrainian statehood released the gut on the Maidan.
      So, it’s worth regretting not that the Ukrainian leadership has already lost due to its policy exclusively, but that you couldn’t stop them from coming to power, that you won’t be able to stop them from miscalculating everything. And there is absolutely no fault of ours, we have actually subsidized the existence of Ukrainian statehood for a long time, while your children in kindergartens and schools were taught that we were sworn enemies and occupiers .... largely at our expense. And we spent absolutely serious amounts on this.
    2. xan
      xan 23 May 2014 19: 28
      +1
      Quote: Cristall
      .that is, if we propose that Kiev is being moored by the Crimea, it at the same time is also Kherson region ...

      How is this connected? I read that water is dumped into the sea almost on the border with the Crimea.
    3. xan
      xan 23 May 2014 19: 33
      +4
      Quote: Cristall
      you can’t imagine how much our business lost there during the transition, and their losses are not compensated at all

      In order not to lose business, it is necessary to re-register according to Russian laws. And since they have not re-registered, it means that they consider the losses insignificant.
    4. ty60
      ty60 23 May 2014 20: 26
      +1
      And who is the author? That's it. Let him pay the bills.
  29. mamont5
    mamont5 23 May 2014 18: 35
    0
    So it seems they wrote that they filled this canal with the waters of the Crimean rivers?
  30. lance
    lance 23 May 2014 18: 36
    +2
    it all ends at once if you close the gas pipe. moreover, the west will become affectionate in no time and he will not need Ukraine
  31. Manul49
    Manul49 23 May 2014 18: 36
    +2
    Quote: gloria45
    Ukrainian media (UNIAN) after such a decision of the Crimean authorities came out with materials stating that Aksyonov was ruining Crimean rice production.

    My subjective opinion, as Crimean women, is ambiguous to rice growing in Crimea.
    It's almost the same as arranging the same rice checks in the Sahara, for example. Maybe it makes sense to find some alternative agricultural less labor-intensive, not requiring such costs and efforts with water? I emphasize, this is my subjective opinion, I do not impose it on anyone


    And when did they start planting rice in the Crimea? A year in 1970? Something I had rice checks in 1964-66. I do not remember...
    1. INFOLegioner
      INFOLegioner 23 May 2014 21: 49
      +2
      The very need for growing this fucking rice is striking. This rice was given to them more than bondage what
  32. Barakuda
    Barakuda 23 May 2014 18: 46
    0
    The main exporter of rice is China, Vietnam, Japan? but no - Italy!
  33. sergkar
    sergkar 23 May 2014 18: 47
    +1
    Strange people are sitting in Kiev! So the price of gas is not fair, but the price of water was raised 50 times, this is normal! Russia must also appeal to the arbitration court.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 23 May 2014 18: 53
      +2
      Yes, you do not see each other. there is a question of repairing the stations, Ukraine refuses. Russia gives money, but the Ukrainian "authorities" do not want to. Well, okay, there are more unemployed people .. It's a pity.
    2. Iceman79
      Iceman79 23 May 2014 19: 26
      +1
      No, I think that our country needs to demand something else, because only Russia recognized the USSR’s debts, and everyone else was in the bushes, but they snatched a share, well, let's remember how many Ukrainians invested in Antonov’s aircraft factory, or they expect that The EU needs someone with the AN-70, and they are able to build a new one sold for a penny of charter flights AN-225, and this is not a Ukrainian achievement, it’s not a big deal and we have not many new products now, but we are launching IL-6 production in Kazan and there you look and for others come
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 23 May 2014 21: 14
        0
        Quote: Iceman79
        because only Russia recognized the debts of the USSR

        But what about the assets of the USSR? Deposits of citizens of the USSR, gold? Real estate abroad, property ... After all, all this also went to Russia. Yes, I understand that I am running into the light of recent events, my hand itself stretches to "minus". But without emotion , in fairness?
        PS By the way, the actions of the Kiev "authorities" are a crime, and I hope they will answer in full.
    3. Iceman79
      Iceman79 23 May 2014 19: 26
      0
      No, I think that our country needs to demand something else, because only Russia recognized the USSR’s debts, and everyone else was in the bushes, but they snatched a share, well, let's remember how many Ukrainians invested in Antonov’s aircraft factory, or they expect that The EU needs someone with the AN-70, and they are able to build a new one sold for a penny of charter flights AN-225, and this is not a Ukrainian achievement, it’s not a big deal and we have not many new products now, but we are launching IL-6 production in Kazan and there you look and for others come
    4. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 23 May 2014 20: 10
      +3
      And you can apply to the arbitration court with a demand for compensation of losses from the crop sowing in the Crimea due to the shutdown of water supply in the amount of $ 50 million. This figure was voiced by business executives, calculating the losses from the breakdown of the sowing season. So how many who owe it to whom is another question!
  34. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 23 May 2014 18: 51
    -2
    But do not go to Khokhlov on foot erotic walk?
    1. ty60
      ty60 23 May 2014 20: 33
      0
      Let them take Lyashenko instead of Moses. He will lead them about 40 years in the Carpathians, some Magyars and Poles will exterminate. But all those who came to Galicia will be personally adapted by Moses to life in the European Union.
  35. yrion
    yrion 23 May 2014 19: 04
    0
    Let all Banderas choke. After all the Kiev and other bastards, adopting filthy laws, others cannot come to mind after licking the asses of overseas "Friends", melt in the Dnieper, this water will not be used for a long time because of its stench.
  36. aviamed90
    aviamed90 23 May 2014 19: 08
    +2
    The Crimean leadership is doing, in my opinion, absolutely correct.

    Now yes. Lose in CX products.

    But then (if there is a water supply from the Krasnodar Territory), they will no longer depend on Ukraine.

    So, these losses in the economy of Crimea are inevitable.

    And pravoseki let them at least flood with this water! And better - drown.
    Neither to myself nor to people (even for money!)!
    What the hell?
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 23 May 2014 21: 19
      0
      Quote: aviamed90
      Neither to myself nor to people (even for money!)!

      They ask Kho.h.l.
      -You were given an apple. Eat?
      -Remove!
      -A basket of apples?
      -Remove !!
      -Well, a wagon of apples?
      -Remove !!!
      -Don't you eat it !?
      -Well, I’m not eating, so I'm biting!
      In general, like a dog in the manger, I’m not dumb, and I won’t give it to another.
  37. Vladislav
    Vladislav 23 May 2014 19: 13
    +1
    How already got these banderlog! Instead of a penny, they want a golden Altyn right away. No matter how choked, but at the same time choked !?
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 23 May 2014 23: 13
      0
      The greed for fat fraer ruined!
  38. shitovmg
    shitovmg 23 May 2014 19: 19
    0
    I drove twice along the Bolshoi Krymsky, 1 - in July 80, they took care of our Olympics (all branches of the ground forces, we, from Odessa on the echelon, Frontofaya along the hills, Shilki according to conditional, the marines, they said that they were winding 70 km per day on sopogi), then in 85, also in July, on a GAZ-53 from Chisinau, I was carrying the equipment of the junior national team in rowing on yalah across the ferry to Novorossiysk, they are on an airplane, I drive up to "Malaya", and let's get equipped, athletes They will understand me, strategists will understand, others (I was the USSR DOSAAF, 25 years old), dived, they caught crabs from the pier ... they kissed and ... threw them away!
  39. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 23 May 2014 19: 20
    +2
    The situation with water for Crimea suggests ... that it is necessary to look for other sources and ways of supplying water ... that do not depend on politics and politicians ... and ensure the independence of Crimea.
  40. xan
    xan 23 May 2014 19: 38
    +6
    Crimea solved the main problem.
    The rest is solved without problems.
  41. uizik
    uizik 23 May 2014 20: 15
    +2
    The Ukrainian authorities are doing one stupid thing after another! Declaring the occupation of Crimea and considering its residents to be citizens of Ukraine, they turn off the tap for these "beloved" citizens. Thus, further provoking contempt. But Crimea without the Kherson region is like a suitcase without a handle. I think over time this deficiency will be eliminated.
  42. propolsky
    propolsky 23 May 2014 20: 19
    +3
    I saw this in the Brest Fortress, the "Thirst" monument, and a film was made about it - "Ordinary Fascism" is called. Shame!!!
  43. andrey682006
    andrey682006 23 May 2014 20: 30
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: andrei332809
    ordinary fascism.
    trying to get through water for gas?

    someone blocks the gas. someone is water. Someone sets the price of gas - like what. someone into the water. Parity (at least)
    In general, it was necessary to bring 2 fraternal peoples to that. that one another blocks the water

    Gas price in accordance with the contract signed by Tymoshenko.
    Are you against fulfilling contracts? And contracts?
    Negotiate - who brought two nations to such a state?
    And who in 23 years made Ukraine bankrupt from the prosperous republic of the USSR?
    1. atalef
      atalef 23 May 2014 20: 38
      -3
      Quote: andrey682006
      gas for gas in accordance with a contract signed by Tymoshenko.
      Are you against fulfilling contracts? And contracts?

      I am for

      Quote: andrey682006
      Negotiate - who brought two nations to such a state?
      And who in 23 years made Ukraine bankrupt from the prosperous republic of the USSR?

      WHAT A DIFFERENCE, they can set the price for water what they want, but can not sell at all.
      It is a fact.
      1. INFOLegioner
        INFOLegioner 23 May 2014 22: 01
        +2
        and the UN thinks differently. And calls it genocide. hi
  44. Balamyt
    Balamyt 23 May 2014 20: 51
    0
    Leave the Dnieper waters to dill! Many of them will be drowned more conveniently in a deepwater! )))
  45. not good
    not good 23 May 2014 20: 57
    0
    What would the price of water in the Crimea did not cause questions, it is necessary to join Kharkov and Nikolaev to the Crimea.
  46. tomcat117
    tomcat117 23 May 2014 20: 59
    +1
    Quote: avg
    It would be necessary for the great Ukrainians to recall that the Dnieper begins in Russia.


    No, this option is the most stupid, except revenge does not give anything, and the source of water remaining without the Dnieper will suffice for the needs of the ukrofascists. Do not torment nature.
    But Novorossia horseshoe, under the remnants of the former statehood is the very thing.
    And as a temporary solution - a pipeline of the largest possible cross-section, along the bottom of the sea or fastening under the spans of a future bridge structure.
  47. Latysh
    Latysh 23 May 2014 21: 01
    +2
    Here nastyty wisely! To build desalination stations, to establish a regime of strict water saving, and in the future to conduct a water conduit from the Kuban. Tolerate four years, five. If the power in Ukraine does not change, then give up water from Ukraine altogether and let them choke, so that no sweets and fat are bought from there. Their oligarchs need to arrange a bikot, and they strangle themselves for pennies. So let them strangle themselves, and even in Crimea their property should be taken for nothing and transferred to children's sanatoriums. Well, if only Novorossia would not have been beaten to death by Bandera with the help of the obtained tripods Amerika.

  48. Blad_21617
    Blad_21617 23 May 2014 21: 05
    +1
    let gas for these goats be 50 times more expensive to sell ... in winter!
  49. Signaller
    Signaller 23 May 2014 21: 11
    0
    Prevention of evaporation of water from the surface of the channel. The membrane film will help you. It is not so expensive, but it will help prevent evaporation from the surface. Moreover, if it rains, it will go to the canal. Wireframe? Yes - you have to do it. But it’s cheaper than buying water, definitely.
  50. Ribatsek
    Ribatsek 23 May 2014 22: 06
    +2
    Before the construction of the canal in northern Crimea, water was taken to water vegetables from artesian wells. In our village there were 8 of them and there was enough water. Now only 3 are used, the others are conserved. The channel is not always good. Firstly, it affected the climate by increasing air humidity. Secondly, the channel floods a huge amount of land adjacent to it, which leads to soil salinization and ruins gardens. Saline groundwater seeps into aquifers and degrades the quality of drinking water.