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Oligarch Akhmetov warns Donbass against joining Russia

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Oligarch Rinat Akhmetov, who is considered to be the richest man in Ukraine, told the residents of Donbass about the prospects that the region expects depending on the path chosen by local residents. Akhmetov believes that the most favorable option for Donbass is to change the Constitution of Ukraine and decentralize power in the country. At the same time, the owner of the Metinvest group believes that the Donetsk residents will be happy only if they continue to perceive Ukraine as a single state and will live in such a state. Reports about it RBC Ukraine.


Oligarch Akhmetov warns Donbass against joining Russia


At the same time, Akhmetov made it clear to the residents of Donbass that he was against the region joining the Russian Federation, stating that after such a step, nothing good should be expected of either Donbass or Russia, given the sanctions that could be brought down by foreign states.

Rinat Akhmetov:

I am deeply convinced that neither Russia nor Donbas needs this. And neither Russia nor Donbass will benefit from this. We will fall under huge sanctions, and in the same way we will not be able to either sell or produce our products. It means economic recession, unemployment and poverty.

The oligarch said that the previous version of the state system, when all the levers of control were in Kiev, had completely outlived itself, and it is necessary to take a significant step to strengthen local authority, including through regional elections.

The piquancy of the situation is that representatives of the Donetsk anti-Maidan (in particular, the people's governor of the Donetsk region Pavel Gubarev) recently announced that it was Akhmetov who financed pro-Russian rallies in the region. Akhmetov himself refuted such statements:

Pavel Gubarev said that I bought two thirds of the activists. I tell you with confidence, I did not give anyone, and I will not give a single cent. And the most important thing: I did not outbid anyone, I persuaded them. And if I have already persuaded two thirds, I will persuade further. People came to me with some arguments, but left with others.
- quotes Akhmetov Of Korrespondent.net.
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  1. Yellow white
    Yellow white 15 May 2014 15: 29
    +64
    Donets, do not listen to the slurry of the Rada, when you join Russia, only HE and his business will lose!
    New sanctions ... like a hedgehog tights, another 20 people banned, sneeze, by and large !!!
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 15 May 2014 15: 33
      +45
      This is the residents of Donbass will decide with whom to be ...
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      2. igordok
        igordok 15 May 2014 17: 18
        +15
        Donetsk will be just as bad as the Crimea. laughing
        1. Cormorants
          Cormorants 16 May 2014 06: 02
          0
          It would be cool to hang in a car =)
          GDP in a limousine probably already hang =)
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    2. ZU-23
      ZU-23 15 May 2014 15: 36
      +28
      It’s impossible to listen to any people, oligarchs in politics at all, not to mention their presidency, how they gathered to elect Parasha as president, one damn thing, to choose Prokhor in Russia.
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 15 May 2014 17: 33
        +9
        Quote: ZU-23
        Any people, oligarchs in politics in general can’t listen,

        Absolutely right, dear Memory 23 (1)! hi
        I can only add my rhyme to your words with all my heart! drinks

        Do not believe, do not be afraid, send!

        Do not trust the oligarchs!
        They are strongholds!
        His cherished interests,
        They put on their people!

        They promise everything they can
        Just to grab your piece.
        There are no foundations or morals
        For profit can give ... pu!

        They are fate — a bad joke!
        And we all know for a long time,
        After all, an oligarch, what a prostitute!
        Another simply is not given!

        That's about like that! drinks
      2. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 16 May 2014 07: 39
        0
        ... that in Russia Prokhor choose.

        Chur us! Kish, unclean!
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    4. avg
      avg 15 May 2014 15: 39
      +20
      Very good sorry for the overwork ...recourse
      1. nvv
        nvv 15 May 2014 15: 48
        +24
        Provocation in Mariupol.
        1. van50man
          van50man 15 May 2014 16: 44
          +8
          In each of the 4 ways to resolve the situation in the Donbas and throughout SE - the concern about the loss of your assets and the lost profit are clearly visible! The combination of a businessman and a politician does not always lead to the prosperity of society. In this situation, being a “good uncle” is the only opportunity and attempt to maintain your position. Moreover, there is clearly a hint of ,, not good consequences ”for ordinary residents of the region if (it’s clear which, voiced more than once and not only by them ...) they ,, disobey good advice ,,! So behave all ,, masters of life ,, and if their plans are successful, they will begin a total squeezing (to put it mildly), not understanding, ,, up to ,, liquidation in kind ,, (to exclude further attempts ...). THINK GENTLEMEN WORKERS AND INTELLIGENTS, THINK! May God grant Mind and Faith to you !!!
          1. Ustas
            Ustas 16 May 2014 09: 26
            +1
            Quote: van50man
            This is how all the owners of life behave

            Yes, what kind of owner is he, his business exists, as long as there is Ukraine. Donbas will not give him the support of the world Jewish-oligarchic community, they will lively excommunicate from the feeding trough.
            All oligarchs in Russia and Ukraine exist as long as they are allowed to do so. And while they support the existing euonomic system.
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    5. nizrum
      nizrum 15 May 2014 15: 58
      -9
      About Akhmetov in my opinion people spoke not badly.
      Naturally, first of all, he observes his interests, but in some ways he is right.
      1. diff
        diff 15 May 2014 16: 50
        +6
        And neither Russia nor the Donbass will benefit from this. We will be subject to enormous sanctions, and in the same way we can neither sell nor produce our products. This means recession, unemployment and poverty.

        And to whom to sell? .. EU? .. so they won’t buy anything! and they will still sell, at least as smuggling, but they will. Today everyone loots everything! what are the sanctions, against someone- garbage is all!
      2. tnt59
        tnt59 15 May 2014 17: 20
        +5
        He is an oligarch, it means in consumption. Point.
      3. VeteranS
        VeteranS 15 May 2014 17: 31
        +12
        To have more than $ 20 billion in personal fortune and suddenly lose all this with a national analysis of industry owned by Akhmetov, you will not sing such a nightingale here, but the people of Novorossia have the last word!
      4. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 16 May 2014 07: 43
        +1
        About Akhmetov in my opinion people spoke not badly. Naturally, first of all, he observes his interests, but in some ways he is right.

        And what is he right about? Before making such statements, prepare your arguments. And so, it’s the same as the gossips on the bench at the entrance with tongues of air.
    6. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 May 2014 16: 41
      +10
      Oligarch Akhmetov warns Donbass against joining Russia laughing laughing warns the one to whom it remains to live, until the militia gets on the fly .... wassat
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      1. kush62
        kush62 15 May 2014 17: 31
        -1
        tnt59 Today, 17:19 ↑ New
        to wet the Tatar

        I draw the attention of moderators to the stupid and provocative saying tnt
        watering options:
        (oligarch, goat, provocateur, worthless billionaire, etc.)















        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 17: 38
          +7
          Quote: kush62
          I draw the attention of moderators to the stupid and provocative saying tnt
          watering options:
          (oligarch, goat, provocateur, worthless billionaire, etc.)

          He turned and suggest to shoot him like a dog.
          What hurt you so much, relative, or what?
          1. Arberes
            Arberes 15 May 2014 17: 47
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            What hurt you so much, relative, or what?


            And he’s neither my friend nor relative,
            And he is my sworn enemy!
            Bespectacled, private owner,
            In green, gray, white Lada!

            V.S. Vysotsky.

            But doesn’t it sound comme il faut? Tatars may be offended ???
            Greetings, dear Alexander! hi drinks
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 17: 53
              +2
              Quote: Arberes

              But doesn’t it sound comme il faut? Tatars can be offended ??

              Hi Vito! Yes, we are not about Tatars, we are talking here, but about one specific “person.” When here on the website they called to shoot Yevsyukov (Russian by nationality), I did not take offense and even supported hi
              1. Arberes
                Arberes 15 May 2014 17: 59
                +3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                .When here on the site they called to shoot Yevsyukov (Russian by nationality), I was not offended and even supported

                Got the line of your thoughts! Well, it remains to add in verse!

                No matter how bad it is
                Although he’s a Russian eccentric,
                Shoot Yevsyukov,
                He is a rare bastard in life!

                I agree! drinks
        2. Iskander Khan
          Iskander Khan 15 May 2014 18: 10
          +6
          Hey! I am also a Tatar. And he treated Akhmet with respect until recently. No need to wet. It is enough to nationalize its factories and ships in favor of the DPR. And let him remain the president of Shakhtar. If there is no benefit, so that it does not harm. Moreover, they, together with Taruta, sabotaged Ukraine, unlike the same Kolomoisky. But Akhmet and Taruta had more money and authority.
        3. Manul
          Manul 15 May 2014 22: 00
          0
          Quote: kush62
          to wet the Tatar

          And me too? Even though I'm half ... How in the cellars of the trade union house in Odessa - to chop the machete?
    8. sir.jonn
      sir.jonn 15 May 2014 17: 45
      +3
      Quote: Black and White
      Donets, do not listen to the slurry of the Rada, when you join Russia, only HE and his business will lose!
      New sanctions ... like a hedgehog tights, another 20 people banned, sneeze, by and large !!!

      Right! Akhmetov is saving his ass.
      Accidents with tragic consequences in mines occur regularly, which indicates savings in safety and that he does not care about the well-being of miners. His chatter with sudden love tomorrow will turn into reprisals against the rebellious miners whose lists of names he probably already has.
      It loses absolutely everything when the Southeast approaches Russia, and the Southeast loses absolutely everything while maintaining common borders with Ukraine.
    9. vlrosch
      vlrosch 15 May 2014 23: 39
      +1
      So he grieves about this, and then not millions, but billions will leave from under the wing.
    10. vlrosch
      vlrosch 15 May 2014 23: 39
      0
      So he grieves about this, and then not millions, but billions will leave from under the wing.
  2. Nitarius
    Nitarius 15 May 2014 15: 30
    +21
    Akhmetov where to hold your assets ??? and in what?
    here is the answer - WHO WILL IT SERVE!
    and whose interests promotes!
    1. Ased
      Ased 15 May 2014 15: 35
      +23
      It says the richest thief in Ukraine! Believe! :)))
    2. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 15 May 2014 15: 53
      +4
      Akhmetov where to hold your assets ??? and in what?
      here is the answer - WHO WILL IT SERVE!
      and whose interests promotes!

      The role of Rinat Akhmetov in recent Ukrainian events is covered with a touch of secrecy. His first public statement about Euromaidan was made in the middle of last December, and in a very peculiar form: Akhmetov as a shareholder supported the official statement of his holding SCM. In it, in particular, it was said: “We are categorically against any violence and believe that today it is necessary to make every effort to find mutually acceptable solutions that will benefit the whole country and every Ukrainian.”

      In a similar vein, Akhmetov’s comment on the events in Kiev to the Ukrainian press was sustained: Ukraine was on the European road, unexpectedly turned off from it - people began to look for the answer to the question of why this happened, and went to Maidan, but violence is unacceptable. “I am at the negotiating table,” summed up Akhmetov.

      It did not follow from these streamlined formulations that “Akhmetov supported Euromaidan,” as many Ukrainian media have stated. However, the number one oligarch had long-standing abacus with Viktor Yanukovych. Back in 2011, the state-controlled company Donbassenergo entered into a coal purchase contract with structures close to the eldest son of the then president of Ukraine, Alexander Yanukovych, pushing DTEK's Rinat Akhmetov group from profitable supplies. Then Yanukovych Jr. got into a fight for a number of other assets in the Donbass.

      To whom the whole article is interesting, here is the link: http: //kavpolit.com/articles/ukrainskie_oligarhi_i_revoljutsija_chast_1_d
      onetsk-2868 / hi
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 15 May 2014 16: 11
        +1
        The third person on the Ukrainian Forbes list, Igor Kolomoisky, the main owner of the Privat financial and industrial group, can be without exaggeration called the “gray cardinal” of the Euromaidan. Kolomoisky is a staunch supporter of the "European integration" of Ukraine and its adherents in Ukrainian politics. In the days of the Orange Revolution of 2004, he became the main “wallet" of forces opposing Viktor Yanukovych, spending, by his own admission, up to $ 5 million.


        Kolomoisky’s understanding of European integration is quite specific, given his (as well as his partners in the Privat group Gennady Bogolyubov and Alexei Martynov) Jewish descent. “As a person holding the post of leader, chairman of the Jewish communities of Europe, I believe that the Jewish communities of Europe should become a common family, as the peoples of a united Europe became,” Kolomoisky said in a 2010 interview.


        link: http: //kavpolit.com/articles/ukrainskie_oligarhi_i_revoljutsija_chast_2_d
        neprop-2962 /
        1. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 15 May 2014 16: 15
          +1
          The second Dnepropetrovsk “clan” is formed by immigrants from the Komsomol structures, who skillfully turned into commercial rails during the years of perestroika - the current acting president of Ukraine, Alexander Turchinov, the influential deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, millionaire Sergey Tigipko and the “orange princess” Yulia Tymoshenko. The relations within this group began to develop a quarter of a century ago, when in 1989 a promising Komsomol functionary Tigipko headed the Dnepropetrovsk regional committee of the Komsomol, and Turchinov, who helped him achieve this position, became the head of the department of agitation and propaganda.


          During the years of perestroika, the cherished dream of the Komsomol members “Party, let me steer!” It became a reality when the party bodies authorized the creation under the Komsomol structures of the so-called "centers of scientific and technical creativity of youth", which in fact became the first commercial organizations in the USSR. In Dnepropetrovsk, one of these centers was headed by the start-up business lady Yulia Tymoshenko with the help of Tigipko and Turchinov. By the way, we can recall that in Moscow during the same years, another Komsomolets Mikhail Khodorkovsky established the business of supplying office equipment and Napoleon cognac to the Union.
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    4. provlad1
      provlad1 15 May 2014 16: 17
      +5
      And where do "our" aligarchs keep their assets? and what? A banal question, isn't it?
    5. Sirocco
      Sirocco 15 May 2014 17: 37
      +1
      Quote: Nitarius
      Akhmetov where to hold your assets ??? and in what?

      Akhmetov himself said this briefly and clearly. The rat burned.
      I tell you with confidence, I didn’t give anyone and I won’t give a single one cent.
  3. fvandaku
    fvandaku 15 May 2014 15: 31
    +11
    300% BEFORE PROFIT, THERE WILL NOT STOP. GENRE LAW.
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    2. SS68SS
      SS68SS 15 May 2014 16: 01
      +10
      ... This means recession, unemployment and poverty ....

      Himself is not ashamed to talk about poverty? They robbed the people to the skin, brought to the Maidan. And now they are persuading them not to be friends with the Russians. Sanctions must be introduced against such in Russia.
  4. Stiletto
    Stiletto 15 May 2014 15: 31
    +24
    Let the activists Akhmetov whisper in his ear the magic word: "Nationalization". I wonder what then will sing?
  5. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 15 May 2014 15: 33
    +20
    Late he caught himself. The people have already said their word. A sovereign state has been formed.
    People in this state are more interested in their own future and the future of their children, rather than the business prospects of Mr. Akhmetov. And his approval or objection is simply irrelevant now.
    1. gandalf
      gandalf 15 May 2014 17: 50
      +1
      The people still need to understand that there is no need to bend under it and be afraid of dismissals.
      To bend down, the factories will close in half a year because there will be nowhere else to sell, people will be fired.
      Now they are threatening with dismissal, it’s easy for everyone to unite and say that if at least one is fired - an unlimited strike. The plant will rise. If you bend down, the plant ... anyway, will rise in half a year due to the lack of gas and a sales market.

      People in the Donbass, you have already proven that together you can do a lot. Unite!
  6. Good cat
    Good cat 15 May 2014 15: 33
    +7
    In! Another messiah, he knows everything and where is better for someone and where is worse for someone, as in the old joke he knows everything only with .. he doesn’t ask
  7. Kurdalagon
    Kurdalagon 15 May 2014 15: 33
    +11
    "It's better to be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big one" - thought Rinat
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 15 May 2014 15: 51
      +7
      Quote: Kurdalagon
      "It's better to be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big one" - thought Rinat

      And I thought ... Yes, these regular redistributions of property, revolutions and Maidan are dumbfounded. In the region, each oligarch will have eternal peace and stability. The people will gradually begin to call oblasts: Kolomoisky, Akhmetschina, Poroshenko’s, etc.
      Mr. does not understand that the state does not make a set of independent regions, but the concept, mission, ideology of the state. And of these, as if not simply not present, in Ukraine no one has ever thought and never thinks.
  8. Giant thought
    Giant thought 15 May 2014 15: 33
    +16
    The first thing to nationalize all the property of Akhmetov and other oligarchs who supported the junta in the fight against the people. This will be a good contribution to the treasury of the young republics.
  9. kit-kat
    kit-kat 15 May 2014 15: 34
    +7
    I think it’s not worth rushing with accession, indeed. It is necessary to create Little Russia, to accept in it more other areas, to create all the attributes of the state, and there it will already be possible to think.
  10. podpolkovnik
    podpolkovnik 15 May 2014 15: 34
    +32
    I liked the drawing very much, the author is Makoke.
    Skopipastil ....
    1. zao74
      zao74 15 May 2014 15: 37
      +5
      Drawing is a miracle, I trudge from "Babai". wassat
    2. jayich
      jayich 15 May 2014 15: 38
      +2
      Thanks took to the collection.
    3. Ural guys
      Ural guys 15 May 2014 15: 44
      +2
      Yes we are! Then Russia smells and a free Russian spirit walks through the fields!
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  11. mig31
    mig31 15 May 2014 15: 34
    +9
    Donetsk residents !!!, You have a chance to take something you have stolen into your own hands and become masters of your future !!! Take it, all yours ...
  12. sledge
    sledge 15 May 2014 15: 36
    +1
    Who will listen to this ghoul? A cry over it
  13. zao74
    zao74 15 May 2014 15: 36
    +4
    What, bastard, are the grandmas stolen from the people scary to lose? NATIONALIZATION!!! And not only there!
  14. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 15 May 2014 15: 37
    +4
    It is necessary to determine either the People’s Republic of Donetsk or something incomprehensible. What was the meaning of the rebellion, and the victims among the inhabitants? is that to drive the militants of one oligarch, and then put another on their necks? People really, we still did not understand that there will never be justice while oligarchs dominate the country. If the People’s Republic, then the power should be based on popular democracy, the basis of which should be people's deputies, and the state planned economy. Otherwise, all the victims are in vain and useless.
  15. shiplover100
    shiplover100 15 May 2014 15: 37
    +2
    IT'S TIME TO "CREATE" !!!))
  16. Alex_Popovson
    Alex_Popovson 15 May 2014 15: 38
    +2
    And rightly so. May Ukraine be indivisible. No one will benefit from this. And the news will pay less attention to this less time.
    But the Donbass of the Russian Federation needs much less than Russia to the Donbass, no matter how bad this sounds.
    I propose to chip in cash for the head of Rinat Akhmetov. May the strong and courageous receive the fool's due
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    2. alexng
      alexng 15 May 2014 16: 08
      +4
      Better to throw off the head of "Kolopomoisky" from him more stench, blood and crap than from anyone else.
      1. Alex_Popovson
        Alex_Popovson 15 May 2014 16: 15
        +1
        Taki - Yes! I want to bring this up for general discussion, as they say, with the world in a row!
    3. provlad1
      provlad1 15 May 2014 16: 26
      +3
      And for the head of our "red-haired" would not like to throw off? I would have to put things in order first. But they don’t mind the heads of Ukrainian murderers either.
      1. Alex_Popovson
        Alex_Popovson 15 May 2014 18: 53
        0
        for the head of our "red-haired" would not like to throw off

        Unfortunately, to the universal, Vladimir Kvachkov is remembered, I feel sorry for him, but myself even more sorry. Tea Supreme God is not in vain in the KGB and the FSB served.
  17. Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 15 May 2014 15: 38
    +3
    Oligarch Akhmetov warns Donbass against joining Russia

    Oh, that cunning Akhmetov ... He understands that in Russia, his assets will be redistributed, and our oligarchs can swallow it even without chewing. And so, you see, you can strengthen your own financial empire, and even crawl into the government of New Russia.
  18. Aleksandr65
    Aleksandr65 15 May 2014 15: 38
    +3
    Accession to the EU is death for Donbass, and everyone knows that — enterprises and mines will CLOSE — this is inevitable. But if the Donbass will be with Russia there is a chance to survive, it is Russia that NEEDS the products of Donbass. And the people there are OURS! But Akhmetov simply suggests delaying the EU end for a year or two, but there’s no doubt that this is the END!
  19. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 15 May 2014 15: 39
    +3
    ... the previous version of the state system, when all the control levers were in Kiev, completely outlived itself, and it is necessary to take a significant step to strengthen local authorities ...

    To understand THIS he "came" after the destruction of the Kiev junta of several hundred people who wanted to be reckoned with. And now the fascist killers want to "negotiate" with them?
    I think that not one HEALTHY person from the Southeast wants to unite with the killers and live together in one state.
  20. Rubmolot
    Rubmolot 15 May 2014 15: 39
    +3
    Cockerel scares his hens the best competitor good

    If the cockerel loses manure with hens, the owner will kill him.
  21. Lesorub
    Lesorub 15 May 2014 15: 40
    +5
    Akhmetov alegarch - protecting his interests, and not the interests of the citizens of Donbass!
  22. APS
    APS 15 May 2014 15: 40
    +4
    Akhmetov is a rogue! You can’t sit on two chairs!
  23. Wiruz
    Wiruz 15 May 2014 15: 40
    +5
    Someone's, but the opinions of the oligarch Akhmetov for the Donetsk people are straight 3,14pec what authoritative laughing.
    People, as a rule, do not like oligarchs, which means that they will do the opposite good .
  24. Prjanik
    Prjanik 15 May 2014 15: 41
    +5
    Oddly enough, for the most part, he correctly said, except for one BUT: the Donbass in Urkain can no longer exist and will not, the train left. Only in its own separate state, friendly with Russia, is Novorossia needed, along with Transnistria.
  25. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 15 May 2014 15: 41
    +7
    Something Akhmetov began to sing like a nightingale, smelled a "grandiose nix"? bully
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 15 May 2014 16: 01
      +5
      He still has some of the property not in the Donbass, and from separation he is likely to lose it. In addition, he is a figure in Ukraine, the oligarch had local authorities in his fist, Yanukovych was his best friend and he had influence and money and power. He did not speak for the Maidan because he was in conjunction with Yanukovych and his rivals Akhmetov overthrew him. However, he doesn’t want to secede, but he wants to federalize, as he hopes to regain half of the Southeast and become independent from Kiev. That is, he was a specific prince, and so while he was talking about federalization, he helped with money, but he is afraid to get to Russia under Putin, as the GDP has dealt with our specific princes. In general, if it were as before about federalization, then he is only for it, but he is very afraid of Russia. He also does not need independence, since economically he will suffer huge losses. So now he will put sticks in the wheels and try to negotiate with the junta. He needs to be explained that if he fools all property, they will be nationalized, and with a bare ass he is not needed either in Kiev, Moscow, or in the west.
      1. 26rus
        26rus 15 May 2014 17: 23
        +1
        But in my opinion, Akhmetov "slowed down", did not assess the danger of the Maidan in time. After all, his financial capabilities and influence on the authorities were an order of magnitude higher than that of Poroshenko and Kolomoisky combined. Even in the presence of "tyrok" with Yanukovych, there would have remained "godfather to the king, matchmaker to the minister" if he had fussed in time and let off steam from the Maidan whistle. And now, it seems, it's too late "to drink Borjomi ..."
  26. Ossetian.
    Ossetian. 15 May 2014 15: 42
    +6
    I am deeply convinced that neither Russia nor the Donbass need this. And neither Russia nor the Donbass will benefit from this. We will fall under huge sanctions


    Already from these words it is clear that he is only interested in profit ... He says that Russia will not win, so Akhmetov, Russia is not a country and the question is not one that would proceed purely from economic benefits. Although you do not understand this !!!
  27. Prutkov
    Prutkov 15 May 2014 15: 42
    +3
    Someone from Svidomo would explain what they mean by the word "decentralization". Apparently - another scam. But it would be worthwhile to first figure out where the catch is in this matter.
  28. bubalik
    bubalik 15 May 2014 15: 42
    +4
    And most importantly: I did not outbid anyone, I persuaded


    ,,, with the help of mercenaries !? am
    ,,nothing convinces better than a good word ... backed by colt(c) so whether ,,,
  29. Dave36
    Dave36 15 May 2014 15: 44
    +1
    Well, the oligarchs whined ... Ha Putin, you won’t send a share .... he will take everything))))
  30. HAM
    HAM 15 May 2014 15: 45
    +5
    Here are the keywords: "We will be subject to huge sanctions .."
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 15 May 2014 16: 18
      +3
      Quote: HAM
      Here are the keywords: "We will be subject to huge sanctions .."

      I wonder who we are? We are the people, and they are the billionaire thieves ... What does it matter to them living in their mansion castles, behind tall fences or rushing in luxury cars to the needs of ordinary people living from paycheck to paycheck ???
      And how all these Akhmetovs, Kolomoisky and Firtashs started bustling about - they’re probably afraid of losing money on accounts over the hill ... Is it still unclear to someone that they are only puppet dolls - London and Washington are pulling the strings ...
      They were given an order - to nightmare Russia and the Southeast - here they are from their pants and jumping ...
      1. HAM
        HAM 15 May 2014 18: 21
        +1
        By the word: "WE" -they always mean only themselves, that they are the people-power to get money and power. Remember, at Filatov's ".. I smear a sandwich with butter, but I remember everything: how is he there, my people ...?"
  31. denchik1977
    denchik1977 15 May 2014 15: 45
    +3
    Who is Akhmetov to give advice to residents of Donbass ?! They are driven only by the interests of personal gain, and not by the interests of ordinary people !!! It would be better if he thought carefully about his fate. How would he not have to share the fate of the entire Kiev "junta" ..... The people of Donbass have already made their choice in the referendum on May 11 !!!
  32. tehnoluks
    tehnoluks 15 May 2014 15: 47
    +3
    "... I will not give a single cent"! Not hryvnia, but "cent". Oh how! To crush with a sip of the fascist, because he cares not for the people, but for his loot, which is in "cents". In the meantime, goodness is in cents, you are not his master. Because you will do and say what those who hold you by the balls command.
  33. Lawless
    Lawless 15 May 2014 15: 51
    +2
    Pig snotty sanctions scares))) funny ....
  34. noskov
    noskov 15 May 2014 15: 53
    +2
    How he got it! From him and rushing some kind of inhuman zeal. Pelt! Not to be confused with SKIN!
  35. dr.star75
    dr.star75 15 May 2014 15: 53
    +1
    If he says so, then we are doing everything right, i.e. attach unambiguously.
  36. Giperboreec
    Giperboreec 15 May 2014 15: 53
    +4
    "Oligarch Akhmetov warns Donbass against joining Russia" - it is right that he is afraid, his property will be nationalized.
  37. Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 15 May 2014 15: 56
    +2
    Yes, everything Akhmetka, you put on the wrong "horse". Crawl on your knees to the Kremlin. The guilty head is not flogged. laughing
  38. todaygoodday
    todaygoodday 15 May 2014 16: 01
    +1
    Prince Bandar also warned and even threatened.
    And there’s nothing to rely on. am
  39. Arkan
    Arkan 15 May 2014 16: 05
    +3
    Akhmetov was not afraid of nationalization, but of the need to pay taxes and comply with laws in Russia, and he doesn’t have a lobby here and they can squeeze out business, they can very well. So he scares Donbass.
  40. vitalm
    vitalm 15 May 2014 16: 06
    +1
    Saves his business. Only from whom - that is the question!
  41. sinukvl
    sinukvl 15 May 2014 16: 07
    +1
    Someone doubted if Donbass would join Russia or become independent, Akhmetov wouldn’t be able to be a district prince, neither Putin nor the locals would. But if they bend under the junta, then for him it will be as good as before, if not better. That’s the whole essence of any oligarch, he doesn’t care what happens to his country, region, city, countrymen, the main thing is that he himself would ride like butter in cheese.
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 15 May 2014 16: 32
      +1
      Akhmetov, what an interesting Ukrainian surname.
  42. maxim1
    maxim1 15 May 2014 16: 07
    +2
    Oddly enough this sounds, but in order to live and be happy, a person must give, not take. That is, on an ordinary level - to be able to give back the accumulated energy, the quintessence of which is the amount of accumulated money (in various forms). Strange thing, huh? However, this is so.
    On this occasion, Christ said that the rich to get into the kingdom of heaven - that a camel (in another translation - a rope) to climb through the eye of a needle.
    If you want to be happy and live up to the ideals of the Lord, give what you have.
    Whoever understands this alogism is a holy man.
    The opposite of this promise is Satan with a nest behind a puddle, which drives people to hoarding. Try it, ask them for money! Funny huh?
    Here are also all (all without exception) oligarchs. That kolomoyny that Akhmetov that all others, large and small. They sure are easier to strangle than to give.
    They will burn, kill, hang, betray, shoot, but try to provide for their grandmothers.
    To neutralize them need nationalization. There is no other way.
  43. Mhpv
    Mhpv 15 May 2014 16: 08
    +4
    Akhmetov, an adult uncle, lived in the USSR and does not remember the slogans!

  44. Not served
    Not served 15 May 2014 16: 13
    -3
    With the entry of Donbas and the Lugansk region into Russia, 80-90% of the mines will have to be closed, because they will not pass according to our technical safety standards. Generation will be transferred to gas, leaving only coking coal mines for metallurgy. Thousands of miners will have to retrain and create jobs. Where, which is not clear yet, and which investments should be generally silent.
    There will be no coal for Generations of Ukraine, it will be necessary to buy more Russian gas.
    According to the sanctions, Akhmetov is bewildering, it will be bad for him, because He has a lot of assets in Europe. Belarus out of the sanctions regime has only 40% of its exports to Russia, the rest is China, Europe, South America. And MAZ calmly puts MAN engines.
    Therefore, sanctions should not be afraid.
    Everything can change, if a sensible leadership comes to Kiev, then there is something like that even on the horizon.
    1. dzau
      dzau 15 May 2014 17: 07
      +2
      Quote: Not served
      With the entry of Donbas and the Lugansk region into Russia, 80-90% of the mines will have to be closed, because they will not pass according to our technical safety standards.

      You write nonsense. The dying economy of Ukraine, therefore, could afford the work of those mines, but the much more stable economy of the Russian Federation “didn’t do it”?

      What kind of a terrible beast of "technical safety standards" is, because of which Russia will flog itself, closing the Donbass mines in bulk and sending thousands of families to the porch?

      What country do you live in at all? In Russia itself, these "safety standards" are mostly waste paper for reporting. If they knock on the table with a pencil, these "norms" will be miraculously "exceeded".

      I tell you this as a resident of Kuzbass, in whom three generations descended underground.
  45. Tartary
    Tartary 15 May 2014 16: 16
    +3
    For grandmother chopped, oligarch.
    Address Ahmedka to Putin before it's too late ...
  46. tokin1959
    tokin1959 15 May 2014 16: 17
    +3
    in Russia, the laws are stricter now - you won’t especially turn it around, and Ahmetka is used to living - what I want, then I turn over - that's why I'm worried.
    Yes, he probably thinks that from the junta he will have a plus for such statements.
    Earlier it was necessary to cast a voice - when did the ATO begin, was it silent? wanted to sit on the sidelines and continue to steal?
  47. mamont5
    mamont5 15 May 2014 16: 21
    +4
    “Akhmetov believes that the most favorable option for Donbass is to amend the Constitution of Ukraine and decentralize power in the country. At the same time, the owner of the Metinvest group believes that Donetsk people will be happy only if they continue to perceive Ukraine as a single state and live in such a state. "

    Well, maybe so. But, where were you, friend calico, 2-3 months ago, when you could still be directed in a different way. Why then didn’t he reason and guide the true wallet of his colleagues? And now, sorry, the train has left. It is unlikely that Donbass or Lugansk will agree to have bandits and murderers as their rulers. So suggest something else that is more in tune with the current moment.

    "Akhmetov made it clear to the residents of Donbass that he is against the region's annexation to the Russian Federation, saying that after such a step, neither Donbass nor Russia should wait for anything, given the sanctions that may come from foreign states."

    And you do not want this, because in Russia you will not be the first. It's a shame, right?
    1. van50man
      van50man 15 May 2014 17: 17
      +1
      The Ukainsky oligarchy, together with its proteges, showed their mug in all its glory! And how, then, will he have to, “get out,” so that he is not only believed but even listened to? Of course, it’s more pleasant to keep people for idiots (self-conceit is beyond merit), but you shouldn’t forget to sit on whose neck! To the miners, the steelmakers ... there isn’t much difference - what’s what is kailo, what is AKM. Would be the GOAL!
    2. tnt59
      tnt59 15 May 2014 17: 24
      +1
      RUSSIA WILL HAVE TO PAY TAXES. Ukropia has been bent because no one paid by Russian standards.
  48. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 15 May 2014 16: 22
    +2
    The king wants to settle in the finished kingdom!
  49. Mhpv
    Mhpv 15 May 2014 16: 31
    +1
    There was a time!!!
    [media = http: //sovmusic.ru/download.php? fname = donbassk]
  50. Yarik
    Yarik 15 May 2014 16: 36
    +2
    Pavel Gubarev said that I outbid two-thirds of the activists. I tell you with confidence, I did not give anyone and will not give a single cent.


    It is noteworthy in what currency he thinks. laughing
    1. viktormilovanov
      viktormilovanov 15 May 2014 17: 11
      +2
      Yrik in the money