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"The art of punishing Russia": the crisis of the genre. About no one noticed the wave of anti-Russian creativity

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If you think that oppositional thought in our country has dried up, yielding to a wave of patriotic sentiments, then you are mistaken. She continues to fight in creative ecstasy every now and then, having frightened our bloody regime with some sort of destructive performance. This time the alarming news comes from the cultural capital - there, awakened by Victory Day, raised its head to a terry de-Stalinization. And the young creators in general demanded the separation of St. Petersburg from Russia.


Now in order. A political scandal is skilfully unwound in St. Petersburg - human rights activists demand the resignation of Smolny’s head of the youth policy committee, Alexander Parkhomenko. The reason is more than serious - Parkhomenko came out on May 9 at the parade with a portrait of Stalin in his hands. According to activists, the demonstration of the portrait of the supreme commander-in-chief in the winning country on a memorable date is a serious crime. However, let's give them a word:

"The participation of A. Parkhomenko in the solemn procession of 9 in May with a portrait of Stalin - an insult to the memory of the victims of Stalinist repression and the justification of Stalin's crimes";

“The truth about Stalin’s repressions has long been known to society. For two decades, tens of millions of Soviet citizens have been subjected to them. Millions of people died. Mass arrests, torture, practically extrajudicial killings, unmotivated sentences (including to the death penalty) became in these years not the exception, but the rule ”;

“Leningrad was one of those cities whose inhabitants and culture were particularly affected by Stalin and Stalinism”;

“It was not for a representative of the democratic government to propagate an interest in a totalitarian leader,” these are all excerpts from the statements and appeals of the offended (among them are deputies of the ZakS, by the way. Well, such people were chosen).

Angry citizens require consideration of the possibility of the further stay of A. Parkhomenko in his post.

However, it was not limited to statements alone. Soon, the activists of the youth movement “Spring” (we’ll come back to it) staged a performance - they brought a portrait of Stalin and the lists of the repressed people to Parkhomenko’s office and doused it with tomato juice, symbolizing blood. Passers-by, according to media reports, did not feel the tragedy of the moment - but cynically they asked activists to “throw themselves in and take pictures”. But they did not heed.

If for a moment you had the feeling that all this happened in any Lithuania, then I will once again focus your attention - no, this is the hero-city of Leningrad, that is, St. Petersburg, our days.

Let's continue.

Earlier, representatives of the aforementioned youth movement "Spring" came up with an enchanting initiative - about the withdrawal of St. Petersburg from the Russian Federation. To do this, they submitted a petition for a referendum on the issues: “Are you for the reunification of St. Petersburg with Europe as a commune of the Principality of Liechtenstein?” And “Are you for the restoration of the validity of St. Petersburg’s 1992 legislation and the status of St. Petersburg as part of the Russian Federation? If you have a question - why would this, we explain - it is us so creatively troll for a referendum in the Crimea.

And now about who all these people are. The run over Parkhomenko is organized by the deputy from the “Civil Platform” Maxim Reznik. He himself is a professional oppositionist, the former head of the St. Petersburg Yabloko, a former member of the Solidarity presidium, the organizer of the dissenters' marches, etc.

He was supported by two more deputies - Boris Vishnevsky and Alexander Kobrinsky - both, as you already guessed, “Yabloko”, fighters against Putin's tyranny and defenders of sexual minorities.

The movement "Spring", recently merged from the activists of the former youth "Yabloko" and the youth "Solidarity", came forward.

In general, all the same testicles, side view. The question is, what is it that they suddenly stirred.

The answer is simple - it is more and more difficult to receive grants in our country, unpromising for the light of Western values. And sponsors demand increased oppositional activity. The unanimity that society today demonstrates in support of the political course is terrible, unacceptable and hardly explainable to them. And that means - the minimum program is to demonstrate by any means: “everything is not so simple with us”. And since this task in the present conditions is hardly realizable, the grant eaters, having neither mind nor imagination, but needing money, are making such a blatant hack - they liven up the deceleration that had passed away, then they troll with a referendum. This is done, you need to understand, not to influence us with you (why argue that you learned about these events from me?), But only for reports to sponsors.

However, the mental abilities of the grantors who finance this mob of parasites are also very suspicious.

The feeling is that the grantors have still not realized the seriousness of the changes that occurred not only in Russia - in the very essence of world politics. Otherwise, they would have noticed that “to impose sanctions against the Russian elite” is to help Russia; to give money to the anti-Russian micro-minority in the country itself is to help Russia. Nowadays, even “constructing reality through media” and completely cleaning up pro-Russian comments in our media means helping Russia.

But they do not notice.
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  1. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 15 May 2014 19: 02
    +105
    Young people now know the truth about the Stalinist repressions. More precisely, not the truth, but the consequences. The reasons have not yet grown.
    But the truth about the Great Victory of the Soviet Union under the leadership of Stalin at school no longer pass.
    And this is not a bias in education - it is a betrayal of its own history.
    1. jjj
      jjj 15 May 2014 19: 10
      +53
      That would be someone engaged in the manufacture of quality materials in gilding badges with the image of Joseph Vissarionovich. I would definitely wear it.
      And also on these former Yabloko. Their guru - Grigory Yavlinsky - is the real author of voucher privatization in Russia. Chubais is a performer
      1. Styx
        Styx 15 May 2014 19: 44
        +8
        and by the way, de chichas Burbulis, but somehow the trinity is flawed wassat
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 16 May 2014 06: 30
          +2
          He himself is a professional oppositionist, former head of St. Petersburg Yabloko, a former member of the Presidium of Solidarity, the organizer of marches of dissent, etc. ... (from the article)


          They are not oppositionists! Oppositionists are people rooting for Russia, wanting to improve its position, but do not agree with the internal political course pursued by the authorities.
          All of these Germans, in bulk, Yavlinsky and others, paid for by the foreign grants of the pack, are not oppositionists, they are traitors, representatives of the 5th column of internal enemies, to whom they need to be treated not as oppositionists, but as TRAITORS, agents of American and Western special services, set as their goal the destruction of Russia.
      2. WKS
        WKS 15 May 2014 19: 44
        +11
        Previously, for the right direction, young men received a portion of educational activities on the buttocks. But the Soviet government for a century stopped these folk methods. The century has passed. Is it time to revive the old and proven methods of setting the brain through young asses. Moreover, to carry out these executions in crowded places, for stupidity both single and massive - to flog publicly. You see, they would forget about gay parades, and they would begin to respect the history of their own country, and not fight it outrageously.
        1. Drshan
          Drshan 15 May 2014 20: 05
          +2
          I don’t remember where, but in the best schools in ISHTEBLISHMENT, corporal punishment was the norm. As far as I know in the BEST (with them) - this is the basis of education. Do you want to set in motion the BASIC principles of education for gentlemen? Okostya. These MUST be hit on your wallet. "Nothing personal, purely business"
          1. the villain
            the villain 15 May 2014 21: 15
            +1
            Quote: DrShAN
            I don’t remember where, but in the best schools in ISHTEBLISHMENT, corporal punishment was the norm. As far as I know in the BEST (with them) - this is the basis of education. Do you want to set in motion the BASIC principles of education for gentlemen? Okostya. These MUST be hit on your wallet. "Nothing personal, purely business"

            Sorry, but, in my opinion, one must be complemented by another for the stereo effect. laughing
            1. Drshan
              Drshan 15 May 2014 22: 26
              0
              How is that? In my opinion on the wallet - that's enough.
        2. Penzyac
          Penzyac 15 May 2014 22: 35
          +2
          Quote: wks
          ... Isn't it time to revive old and proven methods of setting brains through young asses. Moreover, to carry out these executions in crowded places, for stupidity both single and massive - to flog publicly. You look and about gay parades would have forgotten ...

          But what about masochists and exhibitionists? Some are bastardized by flogging, others by public exposure. wassat
        3. Tartary
          Tartary 16 May 2014 03: 10
          0
          Quote: wks
          Is it time to revive the old and proven methods of setting the brain through young asses.

          Yeah, come on! Do not be afraid that the turn of the masochists will simply never be impoverished to the platform with a tired company of whip carriers ...
      3. Normal
        Normal 15 May 2014 20: 56
        +1
        Quote: jjj
        Grigory Yavlinsky is the real author of voucher privatization in Russia. Chubais is a performer

        Regardless of the business qualities and political objections of Yavlinsky (they are widely known and their result, too)
        But still. Could you enlighten me; where did you get this miraculous information? Just curious. Apparently I missed something?
      4. the villain
        the villain 15 May 2014 21: 07
        +10
        Quote: jjj
        That would be someone engaged in the manufacture of quality materials in gilding badges with the image of Joseph Vissarionovich. I would definitely wear it.

        I apologize for the quality of the photo, this t-shirt was created for me to order, I think the badge is not a problem, everything is in your hands.
        I respect Joseph Vissarionovich.
    2. vjhbc
      vjhbc 15 May 2014 19: 13
      +6
      Of course, 500 miles of tortured another 500 miles of executed and another 500 miles exiled to the Gulag
      Quote: Reserve officer
      But the truth about the Great Victory of the Soviet Union under the leadership of Stalin
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 15 May 2014 19: 23
        +23
        The official number of 200 000 people repressed (I don’t remember exactly). During the period of Stalin’s rule, fewer people served in the camps than in Matrasia at the same time. Unfortunately, people are tyrannical, everyone is a tyrant, 60 000 of personally signed death sentences .. they don’t even bother to think, and how much time is needed at least them
        sign, and if you also read ...
        1. sergey261180
          sergey261180 15 May 2014 19: 34
          +20
          Quote: me by
          During Stalin's rule, fewer people served in camps than in Matrasia at the same time.

          Yes, they still sit there more than under Stalin.
          1. Penzyac
            Penzyac 15 May 2014 22: 44
            +4
            Quote: sergey261180
            Quote: me by
            During Stalin's rule, fewer people served in camps than in Matrasia at the same time.

            Yes, they still sit there more than under Stalin.

            They also have prisons, with torture, outside of mattress, for example, in Guantanamo ...
            1. BYV
              BYV 15 May 2014 23: 50
              +3
              In addition, one should not forget about the so-called "private prisons". The correctional system in the United States is now a very profitable and dynamic business. More and more large companies are switching to using prison labor, which is cheaper than even the labor of Latinos. Every year, the number of convicts released on parole is decreasing - not profitable.
        2. ia-ai00
          ia-ai00 15 May 2014 19: 44
          +18
          So even on the basis of modern false films, it IS LOOKED that a Jew himself, or not a Jew, - against an employee, boss, neighbor, relative - concocted a slanderous denunciation, with the goal of vacating a house, a "warm" chair, to avenge some insult , remove the opponent, and EVERYTHING is a man in the GULAG. And people who were legally literate and not indifferent had to figure it out. After all, the verdict was passed not by STALIN, but to a greater extent by the "chosen by God", who, the fewer Russians or competitors among their own, the better.
          They themselves "muddied" the revolution, unleashed a civil war, killed so many people in the country, and blamed all the blame on Stalin ...
          It is precisely against those who "watered" Stalin, it is necessary to carry out a historical JUDICIAL PROCESS, including the period of the NEWEST HISTORY, to determine their ROLE IN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE USSR, and in the collapse of all industries, science and agriculture, and PUNISHMENT FOR HARM, WITH FULL CONFISCATION!
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 15 May 2014 22: 07
            +2
            Quote: ia-ai00
            They themselves "muddied" the revolution, unleashed a civil war, killed so many people in the country, and blamed all the blame on Stalin ...

            You, dear, apparently did not study history well. Those who themselves muddied the revolution were destroyed quite quickly after the revolution .. guess whose feed? And therefore they could not blame Stalin - they simply did not exist ..
        3. max702
          max702 15 May 2014 19: 53
          +5
          60 are not impressive; if you start cleaning now, you will have to sign and execute 000-200 ..
        4. andrejus
          andrejus 15 May 2014 20: 37
          +2
          I read and signed, like I was engaged in secretarial work, there were no more cases, out of boredom.
        5. avia1991
          avia1991 15 May 2014 22: 02
          -6
          Quote: me by
          The official number of repressed about 200 people

          I wouldn’t use figures now on this issue .. No matter what they say, he has done a lot of deeds against the people. One destruction of the elite of the army command before the war is a betrayal of its own people! Although .. for a Georgian, Russians have never been "theirs". The main merit of the Commander-in-Chief of Stalin in the Second World War was the "permission" of G.K. Zhukov to take the initiative into his own hands.
          Of course, this does not mean that the opposition can speculate on the attitude of a single person to Stalin - this person has the same right to his own opinion as all of us ..
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 15 May 2014 22: 43
            -1
            I would be very surprised if there were no cons! laughing That's right, gentlemen, "correct democrats": there can be only two opinions, one is yours and the other is wrong ..
          2. Drednout
            Drednout 16 May 2014 00: 11
            +2
            Sergei, well, there was a lot of controversy about the "elite of the army command." But the necessary Rokossovsky was released to the place, and Blucher or Tukhachevsky and Co. can be very controversially called the elite. And for Stalin and Georgians were never their own. I'm sorry for Vavilov. About the rest - such a time. In fact, there were enemies and spies and saboteurs with terrorists. The truth is now all one size fits all repressed.
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 16 May 2014 09: 10
              +1
              Rasul, I do not urge to consider Stalin EVIL UNIVERSAL. It's just that such figures in history are not unambiguous. Do not forget about who he was before the revolution. There were achievements, there were global successes and equally global failures. I just do not understand people who begin to argue with foam at the mouth that "he was all white and fluffy, it was all sorts of bastards who surrounded him, and did lawlessness!"
              Fanaticism at all times led to grave consequences ..
        6. Vol50
          Vol50 16 May 2014 00: 18
          +3
          Everything has long been counted up, the NKVD records were accurate. In total, from 1921 to the beginning of 1954 (32 years), 642.980 people were sentenced to death for political charges, 2.369.220 to imprisonment, 765.180 to exile. From a reference to the Secretary of the Central Committee CPSU to Comrade N. Khrushchev, Signed: Attorney General R. Rudenko Minister of the Interior S. Kruglov, Minister of Justice K. Gorshenin. (February 1, 1954). During the reign of Yeltsin in 1991-1999 (8 years), the country's demographic losses amounted to over 10 million people. They were not tried, they were not shot, they were simply left to die.
      2. Baikal
        Baikal 15 May 2014 19: 29
        +20
        Stalin. We remember together
        Author: Nikolay Starikov.

        The book, based on the memoirs of contemporaries and associates of Stalin, documents and historical facts, will help you find answers to the most pressing questions:

        - Was Stalin a despot in relations with his associates and subordinates?
        - Did Stalin really prevented our army from fighting with his inept leadership?
        - What caused the repressions in the pre-war period?
        - Why are Stalin’s speeches regarding geopolitics very relevant today?
        - Why did contemporaries consider Stalin a very witty person?
        - Why in our time, falsifiers of history took up the memoirs of Stalin's associates?
        - Why did Stalin love the writer Mikhail Bulgakov and did not like the poet Demyan Poor?
        - Why did Nikita Khrushchev hate Stalin so much?




        I recommend a very interesting book.
        1. Shadow1
          Shadow1 15 May 2014 21: 18
          +18
          Preface already liked it!

          Stalin is a Russian nationalist, Russian nationalists say.
          Stalin is a communist, say the communists.
          Stalin - scum and villain, scum and rascals say.

          How accurately highlighted!
          1. Komrad.Garik
            Komrad.Garik 16 May 2014 00: 33
            0
            In your children innocently shot, calling Stalin m .. and n .. themselves are m ... and n ...?
            1. Shadow1
              Shadow1 16 May 2014 06: 31
              0
              The fate of Kuznetsov, Voznesensky, and the whole so-called “Leningrad affair” was decided by a commission of the Central Committee, which is understandable, given the situation of the accused. It consisted of Malenkov, Khrushchev and Shkiryatov. The death of Leningrad leaders is primarily on their conscience. There is only one detail that Russian historians have preferred to turn a blind eye to for many years: all interrogations of the accused in this “case” were conducted not by MGB investigators, but by members of the party commission.

              So draw conclusions! The struggle for power has always been!
        2. mikki1701
          mikki1701 16 May 2014 00: 06
          +2
          Why did Nikita Khrushchev hate Stalin so much? [/ I] Because Nikita’s hands were bloodied to the elbow. In order to save her skin, he did not spare someone else's life.
      3. diff
        diff 15 May 2014 21: 05
        +8
        jjj RU Today, 19: 10 ↑
        That would be someone engaged in the manufacture of quality materials in gilding badges with the image of Joseph Vissarionovich. I would definitely wear it.

        I agree. Today, everything that happened and happens to be good in Russia is all bad from the USA and the European experimental. But the story is this - if there weren’t Stalin, there wouldn’t be a Great Victory! the fascists would have burnt us in concentration camps a long time ago, even they had not left us as slaves.
    3. starshina78
      starshina78 15 May 2014 19: 34
      +25
      All these "Memorials", "Apples", and other fruits and monuments, let them shut up about Stalin! They don't stand a candle to him. Yes, there were distortions, but blaming Stalin alone is wrong. Stalin = this is the man who made the country! And what did those do? What can they do? Yes, they have not done anything and will not do anything! They can only talk, attend rallies on May 31, and all this for American money! Wow, I can't stand them! As soon as they go out into the street and make an attempt to overthrow the government, I myself will gnaw their throats myself! I think that many will go with me! Let all these fruits, monuments, platforms and halts think before going out into the street and demanding something from the authorities. Will they leave the street in good health or not? Rather, they will not leave!
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      2. SS68SS
        SS68SS 15 May 2014 20: 43
        +14
        Quote: starshina78
        Stalin = this is the man who made the country!


        It’s more correct to say that Stalin is the leader of the country that won the Second World War. Like it or not, it doesn’t matter. This is a historical fact. And not subject to revision.
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      4. Drshan
        Drshan 15 May 2014 20: 50
        +13
        Stalin did the main thing - the USSR. What is it? For the bogies, this is a prison. And for us? It was a tough, sometimes brutal ascent to the next level of development. After the XX Congress, my father simply hid his portrait under the drawing of "Lenin's grandfather in childhood." I am still sure - there must be a Leader!
      5. the villain
        the villain 15 May 2014 21: 23
        +4
        Quote: starshina78
        As soon as they go out and make an attempt to overthrow the government, I myself will personally gnaw their throats!

        Believe me, you are not alone.
      6. sasha.28blaga
        sasha.28blaga 16 May 2014 06: 19
        +1
        Even "our sworn ally" Churchill said (not literally, but the meaning is the same): "Stalin got a country with a plow, he left it with nuclear weapons." In my opinion, this is enough to characterize Stalin.
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 16 May 2014 09: 20
          -1
          Quote: sasha.28blaga
          Even "our sworn ally" Churchill said

          So, by the way: the same Churchill said "Give me Tukhachevsky - and I will conquer the whole world with one division!" .. Where did Tukhachevsky go? .. You can argue to the point of hoarseness in the throat! Today, the speech, in fact, is that a person has the right to respect Stalin, or not to respect - and to challenge the right of each of these people means rolling into the same pit into which the "power" in Kiev is now rolling. First of all, we must learn to hear each other! And be able to respect the opinions of others.
    4. moremansf
      moremansf 15 May 2014 19: 48
      +5
      I completely agree...
    5. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 15 May 2014 20: 10
      +8
      They don’t know anything about Crimea and Ukraine either, he was convinced himself. They were brought up from Soros textbooks. And what Ukrainian youth knows is visible from ODESSA. May second.
    6. GSH-18
      GSH-18 15 May 2014 20: 14
      -7
      Quote: Reserve officer
      Rђ RІRѕS, the truth about the Great Victory Soviet Union under the leadership of Stalin at school no longer pass.
      And this is not a bias in education - it is a betrayal of its own history.

      True, under Stalin (with all due respect to this leader), it was, to put it mildly, one-sided in nature. Let's remember this too. According to this, to teach today's youth textbooks of the sample of the year 46 is at least strange .. (Does the personality cult continue? belay )
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 15 May 2014 20: 22
        +14
        For me, let 46 textbooks of the year than 94 from Sorres
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 15 May 2014 20: 34
          +8
          Quote: me by
          For me, let 46 textbooks of the year than 94 from Sorres

          Textbooks should be simply Russian. Impartial, written by Russians about Russians and for Russians. No Sorrosov, etc. anti-Russian authors with "good" intentions! am
          1. I do not care
            I do not care 15 May 2014 20: 54
            +6
            Quote: GSH-18
            Quote: me by
            For me, let 46 textbooks of the year than 94 from Sorres

            Textbooks should be simply Russian. Impartial, written by Russians about Russians and for Russians. No Sorrosov, etc. anti-Russian authors with "good" intentions! am

            and I think, excuse a middle-aged man, Soviet

            at least until the 7 class — a minimum of ideology — a maximum of knowledge, something like that.
            1. Penzyac
              Penzyac 15 May 2014 23: 30
              +3
              Quote: me by
              Quote: GSH-18
              Quote: me by
              For me, let 46 textbooks of the year than 94 from Sorres

              Textbooks should be simply Russian. Impartial, written by Russians about Russians and for Russians. No Sorrosov, etc. anti-Russian authors with "good" intentions! am

              and I think, excuse a middle-aged man, Soviet

              at least until the 7 class — a minimum of ideology — a maximum of knowledge, something like that.

              I completely agree with you, Soviet history textbooks up to the new history were quite truthful and interesting. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about modern history, but the authors of Soviet textbooks did not go down to frank tales (perhaps, except for a short course in the history of the CPSU) (b)).
              And, in general, it is not entirely correct to judge the actions of figures of the past from the standpoint of modern times, otherwise all the kings and princes of the distant past may seem like barbarians and bandits (continuous wars, raids with invariable self-praise and rich booty), I generally keep silent about the history of religion (one inquisition is worth).
          2. andrejus
            andrejus 16 May 2014 12: 16
            0
            Type: Do you wish me well? -What have I done wrong to you ?!
      2. sasha.28blaga
        sasha.28blaga 16 May 2014 06: 21
        +1
        But the constitution adopted under Stalin is still considered the most democratic.
    7. Thompson
      Thompson 15 May 2014 21: 32
      +5
      These are the oppositionists Stalin planted, Peter separate them ...
      Such as on the Maidan shot ...
      Well, and someone to see fell under a hot hand. Condolences last. There was such a time, Maidan. But now, looking at what they are doing and creating, I am becoming more and more convinced of the correctness of his actions.
    8. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 15 May 2014 22: 21
      +1
      It's a pity that these liberal buggers are not shown on TV. The people must know their "heroes" in the face (to be able to spit at them when passing by) negative
    9. Ujin61
      Ujin61 15 May 2014 23: 30
      0
      If it weren’t for this article in St. Petersburg, no one knew about these liberals. They made free advertising for freaks.
    10. Akvadra
      Akvadra 15 May 2014 23: 34
      0
      The main lesson of history is that humanity is untrained. U. Churchill
      (I agree with vrazhin. What blow in the ears, then at face value and accept)
    11. Drednout
      Drednout 16 May 2014 00: 02
      +2
      “The truth about Stalin’s repressions has long been known to society. For two decades, tens of millions of Soviet citizens have been subjected to them. Millions of people died. Mass arrests, torture, practically extrajudicial killings, unmotivated sentences (including to the death penalty) became in these years not the exception, but the rule ”;
      Quote: Stock Officer
      Young people now know the truth about the Stalinist repressions. More precisely, not the truth, but the consequences. The reasons have not yet grown.
      But the truth about the Great Victory of the Soviet Union under the leadership of Stalin at school no longer pass.
      And this is not a bias in education - it is a betrayal of its own history.

      And why is it so certain that millions of victims of repression are true? How is it calculated and where is the confirmation? And young people only know what they teach. And then, one-sided and crooked.
    12. Vol50
      Vol50 16 May 2014 00: 16
      +4
      Today's youth do not even know that in terms of the total volume of gross domestic product and industrial production, the USSR in the mid-1930s came to first place in Europe and second in the world, yielding only to the United States and significantly surpassing Germany, Great Britain, and France. And this is 10-12 years after the civil war. During the time after the decree "On the elimination of illiteracy among the population of the RSFSR" (December 26, 1919) until 1940, the country with 70% of the illiterate population turned into the most reading country in the world.
    13. Blondy
      Blondy 16 May 2014 04: 27
      +1
      I am not going to justify Stalin - a complex figure and enough blood on his hands.
      But he took the country with a plow and surrendered with an atomic bomb. And personal condition - two darned service jackets after death.

      All their truth is mainly based on Solzhenitsin’s Gulag folklore. Three tens of millions of victims, one and a half hundred alive burned under Magadan, etc. crimes of bloody gebni from convict folklore. Then all the archives were woolly and could not count more than 2.5 million, i.e. the number of victims is overstated by more than 10 times. He rode through the brain in such a way that no CIA could even dream of. The damage from this ace of information warfare has not yet been evaluated.
    14. Andersen68
      Andersen68 16 May 2014 06: 23
      +1
      Yes, the truth has never been voiced! It is so intensely disguised as genocide that it is hard not to believe. But how in reality? Take at least the entire Leberast opposition and the type of leaders of the Germans, Novodvorsk ... and so on, what would have happened to them. under Stalin? Yes to all of them in the forehead article No. 58, so stubbornly sanctified by them. "Treason to the Motherland." Only those who also used it heavily (denunciations), so there are innocent victims. How many more suffered-guilty or innocent now it is impossible to find out, because they did not understand much then. Now it is no longer possible to do this again, society has changed a lot and the laws too. And about education, I agree with what you wrote.
    15. Siberian German
      Siberian German 16 May 2014 06: 57
      0
      Somehow I talked with one pensioner - he was then a district police officer, well, then he tells me - Eugene repression is a necessary instrument of coercion for the state. I agree with him - but it is necessary to use it with great skill - now more than ever there is a need for reprisals against corrupt officials, revealed by the liberal opposition - but at the same time there must be a justification for such actions - a corrupt official impedes the development of the business - we plant it or shoot it and if that's all correctly done where it interfered with business should bloom. If this is not the case, then the question of repression is justified. I wrote here on the website — I asked my grandmother to correctly repress the Germans — so she replied that everything was not easy there — while she was proud that such a plant was built where there are a lot of arbeiten people - well, something like this she said about Nizhny Tagil
  2. alekss30
    alekss30 15 May 2014 19: 02
    +25
    in fact, a new article in the Criminal Code of Russia appeared for such supporters, lovers of separatism - 280.1
    1. Ased
      Ased 15 May 2014 19: 07
      +15
      Quote: alekss30
      in fact, a new article in the Criminal Code of Russia appeared for such supporters, lovers of separatism - 280.1


      Very correct and timely article!
      Vladimir Putin perfectly anticipates the situation based on the current moment.
    2. smile
      smile 15 May 2014 19: 13
      +17
      alekss30
      So in order not to fall under the article, they invented the "commune of Liechtenstein", they say, Shutka is like that .... they probe the situation, the tsurvas ...
  3. Comintern
    Comintern 15 May 2014 19: 04
    +6
    Well, the infectious schiz is no other words, it’s interesting in general that someone takes it seriously.
    1. smile
      smile 15 May 2014 19: 11
      +8
      Comintern
      Well, someone stupefied with populist slogans went to the swamp area ... so that he perceives, unfortunately ...

      And the grantors' mental abilities do not raise suspicion - among those who want grant-eaters to look for, if not from similar professional gnnnids? They worked in a similar way for years and worked for good reason, unfortunately, they fostered a lot of such professional ones .... I won’t tell anyone ....
    2. 1goose3
      1goose3 15 May 2014 23: 02
      +1
      Kominternovets SU  Today, 19:04 New


      Well, the infectious schiz is no other words, it’s interesting in general that someone takes it seriously.

      Shiz, say ?! In Chelyabinsk, shields and extensions with portraits of Stalin, which, among many others, appeared on Victory Day, lasted no more than a day and were quickly dismantled.
      And this is today, when all reasonable people, except for the liberal ones, already know the truth, not the "truth" about Stalin, and those times in general.
      So this schiz is in power and in positions, and the problem is not superficial.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 16 May 2014 15: 12
        0
        Quote: 1goose3
        And this is today, when all reasonable people, except for the liberal ones, already know the truth, and not the "truth" about Stalin

        And why do you consider "true" what suits you, and false what does not correspond to your views? Information warfare in history is no less cruel than in real life! How did you decide that the authors of your sources learned the truth? It has already been said here above: most likely, we will never know the truth. How many times has the Bible been rewritten? How much do you think the latest edition matches the original? ..
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 15 May 2014 23: 44
      0
      Quote: Comintern
      Well, the infectious schiz is no other words, it’s interesting in general that someone takes it seriously.

      In Ukraine, it seems very many, even staged the Maidan and brought the junta in Kiev to power. Now, however, many have become smarter and bite their elbows, but they are still cowardly or lazy to actively resist (my hut is on the edge).
  4. Morgan
    Morgan 15 May 2014 19: 06
    +14
    After the Crimea, OUR Crimea, the entire political guano began to intensively work out their salaries from the regional committee ... They do not like Stalin ... homosexuals
  5. boozer
    boozer 15 May 2014 19: 06
    +24
    The "Fifth Column" will periodically make itself known, otherwise overseas patrons will stop sending translations with "green papers". Traitors will use any methods and raise controversial topics. At least about Stalin, at least about the bald devil. Under supposedly good intentions, they will rock the situation in Russia. But what would Comrade Stalin say to this, eh? If I was alive ...
  6. andrei332809
    andrei332809 15 May 2014 19: 08
    -19%
    fighters against Putin's tyranny and advocates of sexual minorities

    1. Drshan
      Drshan 15 May 2014 21: 32
      +5
      I don't understand what this guy has to do with it? I'm considering combining this photo with this, forgive "X" RE "N" I "(voice acting) insult. And if the guy files a lawsuit, I will, to the best of my ability, support him.
  7. Rohon
    Rohon 15 May 2014 19: 09
    +16
    5 columns stirred, it’s time to put things in order at home ......
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 15 May 2014 19: 39
      +4
      Quote: rohon
      5 columns stirred, it’s time to put things in order at home ......

      We will be like in Ukraine. The main thing now is not to blunt Putin as Yanukovych was blunt. Disperse this shobla at once, allow the Ministry of Internal Affairs to shoot the rioters. And to clean up the apparatus of Western "shillas".
    2. sasha.28blaga
      sasha.28blaga 16 May 2014 06: 24
      0
      But without them it would be completely boring, and at least you can talk, discuss this topic and, in the end, just laugh. And the attitude towards them should be the same as to feminists who shake their breasts because there is nothing to shake others.
  8. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 15 May 2014 19: 09
    +40
    Many people want to "punish" Russia and make their fortunes on this .. Only then they deeply regret it ..
    1. Ased
      Ased 15 May 2014 19: 16
      +9
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Many people want to "punish" Russia and make their fortunes on this .. Only then they deeply regret it ..


      Straight my avatar - To evil enemies, to the joy of Mom!
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 15 May 2014 20: 02
        +37
        I finally found that I don’t know about the topic, but I was hooked ..
    2. Proud.
      Proud. 15 May 2014 21: 20
      +1
      The motivator is good. I saw it with another inscription: "To spite the enemies, to the joy of my mother!"
  9. Prutkov
    Prutkov 15 May 2014 19: 10
    +14
    People have a spring exacerbation. Most often this goes by itself. But sometimes surgical intervention is necessary.
    1. smile
      smile 15 May 2014 20: 07
      +3
      Prutkov
      Cut to hell without waiting for peritonitis? :))))
      1. alleksSalut4507
        alleksSalut4507 15 May 2014 21: 09
        0
        cut off, don't cut.
      2. Drshan
        Drshan 15 May 2014 22: 36
        0
        Why not use the antibiotic (newest)?
  10. lis-ik
    lis-ik 15 May 2014 19: 12
    +9
    They have already earned real time, an article has appeared not so long ago, IT IS TIME TO PLANT !!!
  11. mamont5
    mamont5 15 May 2014 19: 13
    +14
    "A little earlier, representatives of the aforementioned youth movement" Vesna "came up with an enchanting initiative - about the secession of St. Petersburg from the Russian Federation."

    Well, to satisfy their request - to withdraw these individuals from the Russian Federation. Naturally without St. Petersburg.
    1. Buran
      Buran 15 May 2014 22: 30
      0
      In fact, they earned themselves an article of the Criminal Code. So if it displays, then no further than Magadan, or to the Arctic, clean the snow, we’re just increasing the activity there. It strains another, why is the prosecutor's office silent?
  12. siberalt
    siberalt 15 May 2014 19: 13
    +7
    Respect to Evgeny! The more you "shake" it, the harder it becomes. laughing Russians cannot be defeated! There is no such force now.
  13. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 15 May 2014 19: 16
    +11
    how they are stuck from Stalin ... they smell, they feel cyki, where it can fly from ... oh, well, already the mood rises !!!
    1. sasha.28blaga
      sasha.28blaga 16 May 2014 06: 27
      0
      And something else is not in the shower of course.
  14. vazat
    vazat 15 May 2014 19: 17
    -39%
    Complete schizophrenia. In my opinion, the author of the article should be sent to a mental hospital. His head is definitely not all right. The complete incoherence of thought. I wonder what language he speaks with his children.
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    3. 1goose3
      1goose3 15 May 2014 23: 21
      +3
      vazat CN  Today, 19:17


      Complete schizophrenia In my opinion, the author of the article should be sent to a mental hospital

      In! Pancake ! It always seems to a complete schizo that all schizos except him and the whole world are a madhouse, except for his own chamber.
      I repeat, the Internet, in the houses of fools, is too much.
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  15. horoh
    horoh 15 May 2014 19: 17
    +3
    Quote: siberalt
    Russians cannot be defeated! There is no such force now.

    And it’s unlikely that they will appear !!!
  16. Roman1970
    Roman1970 15 May 2014 19: 17
    +3
    A little earlier, representatives of the aforementioned youth movement "Spring" came up with an enchanting initiative - on the withdrawal of St. Petersburg from the Russian Federation.

    Yes, let yourself ... Look, they want to hold the 31st parade ... Who will allow them ...
    1. klavyr
      klavyr 15 May 2014 19: 53
      +17
      Yes, let yourself ... Look, they want to hold the 31st parade ... Who will allow them ...
      - let them go to Kiev, I think they will find "like-minded people" there, for example:
    2. jktu66
      jktu66 15 May 2014 19: 59
      +6
      Yes, let yourself ... Look, they want to hold the 31st parade ... Who will allow them ...
      Let the parade make a parade on Airborne Forces Day smile
      1. Ased
        Ased 15 May 2014 20: 05
        +1
        Quote: Roman1970
        Yes, let yourself ... Look, they want to hold the 31st parade ... Who will allow them ...


        Let them spend somewhere in the fields, 60 km from Moscow! Or do they definitely need attention?
        1. alleksSalut4507
          alleksSalut4507 15 May 2014 21: 15
          +1
          in connection with the repair of the roadway, the parade is postponed from May 31 to August 2. Administration.
        2. Penzyac
          Penzyac 16 May 2014 00: 07
          0
          Quote: ASed
          Quote: Roman1970
          Yes, let yourself ... Look, they want to hold the 31st parade ... Who will allow them ...


          Let them spend somewhere in the fields, 60 km from Moscow! Or do they definitely need attention?

          And in Verkhoyansk in winter, weak? wassat
  17. ECT
    ECT 15 May 2014 19: 18
    +8
    I would have collected all this riffraff and sent them to the states for permanent residence, I would have seen how they felt the "freedom of democracy" there.
    1. klavyr
      klavyr 15 May 2014 19: 44
      +3
      I would have collected all this riffraff and sent them to the states for permanent residence, I would have seen how they felt the "freedom of democracy" there.
      - Good offer! But they are not needed there, because there is enough of this. They were prepared to fight with us and our culture. And they receive loot while they are in Russia.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 16 May 2014 00: 22
        0
        Quote: klavyr
        I would have collected all this riffraff and sent them to the states for permanent residence, I would have seen how they felt the "freedom of democracy" there.
        - Good offer! It's just that they are not needed there, because there is enough of such VNA ... And they receive loot while they are in Russia.

        And this is their problem. Do not hell piss against the wind!
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 16 May 2014 00: 10
      +1
      Quote: ECT
      I would have collected all this riffraff and sent them to the states for permanent residence, I would have seen how they felt the "freedom of democracy" there.

      By the way, there is St. Petersburg in the USA, it is definitely not part of the Russian Federation ... smile
    3. e_krendel
      e_krendel 16 May 2014 05: 31
      0
      But who needs them there? They will not even be paid unemployment benefits. They feed from there - only while they are crap here!
  18. basmach
    basmach 15 May 2014 19: 19
    +9
    Hardly Comrade Stalin would say something, for this brethren would already be cutting wood in the north in a better pounding or mining coal in Vorkuta, and at worst would play the role of fertilizer.
    The question is not only in such critics - "sorry" creatives - but also who finances them and how. And the money goes through all kinds of NGOs. And if these NGOs are still operating, then it means that someone is profitable and necessary (in the infection, it turned out almost according to "The Little Prince")
  19. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 15 May 2014 19: 19
    +5
    If you think that the opposition thought has dried up in our country, yielding to a wave of patriotic moods, then you are mistaken.

    Yes, what is it, money for blackening continues to go, defammers puff, as before ... but who listens to them?
  20. ivantitanium
    ivantitanium 15 May 2014 19: 20
    +4
    plant and sterilize!
  21. staryivoin
    staryivoin 15 May 2014 19: 27
    +6
    Quote: Stock Officer
    Young people now know the truth about the Stalinist repressions. More precisely, not the truth, but the consequences. The reasons have not yet grown.
    But the truth about the Great Victory of the Soviet Union under the leadership of Stalin at school no longer pass.
    And this is not a bias in education - it is a betrayal of its own history.


    Dear colleague, the way it is. In our school, history teachers have long understood the criminality of modern historical education programs. Therefore, we adhere to the old line developed back in Soviet times. Who cares, go to www.permschool47.narod.ru.
    Our educators believe that as long as the memory is alive, there will be a development path for the RUSSIAN STATE. It is important to preserve all this. Although, unfortunately, not everything is so simple here ...

    And the scum that does not remember and does not understand its FATHERLAND, even in Perm ("Museum Perm-36"), at least anywhere is enough. The main thing is not to give up and not succumb to it !!!
  22. andj61
    andj61 15 May 2014 19: 28
    +5
    “Impose sanctions against the Russian elite” means helping Russia; to give money to the anti-Russian micro-minority in the country itself means helping Russia. That today even “constructing reality through the media” and thoroughly cleaning the pro-Russian comments in their media means helping Russia.


    And if some hell opposes the demonstration of a portrait of the supreme commander of the time of the Great Victory during the anniversary of the Great Victory, then it becomes clear to everyone that he is only hell and no one else. And the one who carried the portrait is our man!
  23. jovanni
    jovanni 15 May 2014 19: 30
    +4
    In the course of the Ukrainian fever is very dangerous. Especially for a flawed brain. We must all carefully watch these guys so as not to miss the moment of quarantine. So as not to bring to surgery.
    1. the villain
      the villain 15 May 2014 21: 42
      0
      Quote: Jovanni
      not to miss the moment of quarantine assignment

      Aminazine and galaperidol. By the way, I read that in the days of Stalin the mattress-beds of their dissidents were treated in a chiorurgic way, called lobotomy.
  24. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 15 May 2014 19: 31
    +4
    This is what happens to people when they are sold. They turn into clinical idiots who will do whatever the owners of these "rustling bills" order. They will even sell their own mother.
    So a place in Siberia on a forest felling. Work out the moral damage done to society. At the same time, the money spent on food should be less than the money brought to the state. Otherwise, their right to life is in doubt. Betrayal for me personally is a mortal sin ...
  25. starhina01
    starhina01 15 May 2014 19: 33
    +7
    I live on the outskirts of St. Petersburg, and I learn the news from V.O. I would have known I would have looked at imbi.tsilov yes
  26. Ilotan
    Ilotan 15 May 2014 19: 35
    +10
    Buy at any kiosk soyuzpechat and read "Historical Chronicles with Nikolai Svanidze". Your St. Petersburg leaders nervously smoke on the sidelines. I have already reached the 12th volume. If you believe the author, then in the entire history of the country from 1913 to 1947 - not a single bright spot, solid negative (even about 1945 about the Victory - at least, but unusually vividly and in detail described the "atrocities" of the Red Army in the occupied territory of Germany). I think it will be in the same vein. Okay, I lived my life, I understand where the legs grow. But this is what children read. What is the column: the fifth, the sixth? And what law does it fall under?
    1. jktu66
      jktu66 15 May 2014 20: 07
      +8
      ... "Historical Chronicles with Nikolai Svanidze" ... But these are children reading
      Do not let children read Svinadze’s opus!
    2. mark2
      mark2 15 May 2014 20: 33
      +5
      And can anyone turn to complain about the distortion of the history of their native country? The historian should cultivate pride in the reader, not a sense of inferiority.
      1. alleksSalut4507
        alleksSalut4507 15 May 2014 21: 21
        +1
        for insulting the honor and dignity of a citizen.
      2. avia1991
        avia1991 15 May 2014 22: 13
        +2
        Quote: mark2
        The historian should cultivate pride in the reader, not a sense of inferiority.

        The historian must tell the Truth! Without distorting it for the sake of ANYONE's interests. Otherwise, we will be like the creators of the theory of "great ukrah".
      3. Penzyac
        Penzyac 16 May 2014 00: 36
        0
        Quote: mark2
        And can anyone turn to complain about the distortion of the history of their native country? The historian should cultivate pride in the reader, not a sense of inferiority.

        To educate is the business of educators, and the business of historians is to describe historical facts truthfully, without their own or, even more so, custom-made emotional and political assessment, including without biased exaggeration of “necessary” facts and underestimation of “unnecessary” facts, otherwise he is a falsifier of history. hi
    3. Buran
      Buran 15 May 2014 22: 36
      0
      You’ll propose to see the euro with conchita again, 12 times. Money is not a pity, sponsor Svanidze?
  27. chinararem
    chinararem 15 May 2014 19: 41
    +9
    When I turned 18, I went to the first elections in my life. “For“ Yabloko! ”I was really proud that I had“ a different, right-wing view. ”Now, almost 20 years later, I am ashamed, blushing. Apparently, the English special school, overseas holidays, exchange trips have affected. Forgive, Country! ! I will give it with interest! And my English school is still working ...
    1. mark2
      mark2 15 May 2014 20: 29
      +2
      I remember that in the USSR there were also special schools in which the children of diplomats studied. So these children of diplomats were the first to become that notorious "fifth column" who managed to overthrow a great country, and not try to fix something in it.
    2. Drshan
      Drshan 15 May 2014 22: 04
      +1
      When I turned 18 I finished IED. I didn’t have any questions on voting. Then there were alternative ones. Also once voted for this fruit (an alternative to Yeltsin). But since then I have not seen more than one political party that has put forward a normal program. GDP does not put forward programs. He is slowly but surely ACTING.
      PS Then I talked with graduates of similar schools in St. Petersburg. The interrogation of prisoners of war did not survive.
  28. Palladium900
    Palladium900 15 May 2014 19: 43
    +20
    And where does this fifth column come from? Well, in the Union there was no chewing gum, jeans, McDonald's. Pozarya .. But now it’s all there! And there are chips with Mercedes, too, what is missing?
    1. jktu66
      jktu66 15 May 2014 20: 09
      +5
      And where does this fifth column come from?
      From here ...
    2. mark2
      mark2 15 May 2014 20: 24
      +2
      What's missing? Authorities. "To bring down" the country is a business. Someone "knocks" from the bottom of their hearts, because they are stupid as a cork, believing in the fake ideals of Western democracy, and someone purposefully, receiving money for it. The latter also want to sit on golden toilets, because they believe that those who are already sitting on them are not worthy of this place. Both are not worthy, because they think at the level of ciliates.
    3. miha.ru
      miha.ru 15 May 2014 21: 17
      0
      adventures on the fifth fulcrum are simply not enough, it’s not enough in childhood to know how to beat !!
  29. Capyar 48315
    Capyar 48315 15 May 2014 19: 48
    -10%
    Stalin is great and cruel. the demonstration with his portrait is incorrect due to the bloodiness of this man. But to forget his role in the history of our country is impossible and impossible. The unity and struggle of opposites, damn it, damn philosophy ....
    1. Black
      Black 15 May 2014 20: 55
      +7
      Quote: CapYar 48315
      Stalin is great and cruel


      And the mass of "Yanukovychs" are soft as fresh shit0.
      Therefore, some build, they destroy, the memory of the "Stalinists" will live for centuries, and these are despised already during their lifetime.
    2. sv68
      sv68 15 May 2014 21: 20
      +2
      Kapyar, first, don’t forget that Stalin needed to lift the country out of ruins after the revolution and civil war and any softness could only ruin the country, it’s not always possible to choose methods — you want to have a strong state — use force to do this. people needed work to give and establish a peaceful life, you don’t even know much, but if you personally don’t like Stalin personally, it doesn’t mean that he is bad for everyone. If you can look into the archives and your worldview will change significantly
      1. Capyar 48315
        Capyar 48315 15 May 2014 21: 44
        0
        are you ready to get under the meat grinder
      2. Capyar 48315
        Capyar 48315 15 May 2014 22: 03
        +1
        I understand everything - and therefore wrote about the ambiguity of assessments - from the distancing of decades, everything is perceived smoothly - and not so much as on the spot
    3. Proud.
      Proud. 15 May 2014 21: 25
      +1
      Quote: CapYar 48315
      due to the bloodiness of this person

      I do not understand ... Decipher about the "bloody" of Stalin. Was there more blood in the body than others?
  30. lis-ik
    lis-ik 15 May 2014 19: 50
    +3
    Quote: Palladium900

    Palladium900


    Today, 19: 43




    And where does this fifth column come from? Well, in the Union there was no chewing gum, jeans, McDonald's. Pozarya .. But now it’s all there! And there are chips with Mercedes too, which is missing

    There is a lack of patriotic education, a normal history curriculum, not liberal parents and entourage, but by and large conscience and brains.
  31. Santor
    Santor 15 May 2014 19: 52
    +17
    Quote: Reserve officer
    Young people now know the truth about the Stalinist repressions. More precisely, not the truth, but the consequences. The reasons have not yet grown.

    Not the truth, but organized by Comrade Yakovlev (thus that he suddenly found copies of the minutes of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact, which the archivists of the FRG cannot, who found documents on the guilt of the USSR in the crime in Katyn, although many witnesses indicate the opposite, yes, the same In 1966, being the ambassador to Canada, he pierced a woman and, being detained by the Canadian police while driving, agreed to work for the CIA - about which there was a direct report to Gorbachev that was left unattended) an enchanting action called millions of Stalinist repressions ... That's just when you start flipping through authentic documents, these tens of millions shrink to hundreds of thousands and, including the military, do not exceed 2.7 million ... And still, as the war showed a little - hundreds of thousands of uncut bastards put on the bandages of policemen, put on the uniform of the Wehrmacht ... In June 1943, von Kleist signed a daily allowance the order where in the army group "South" 432 citizens of the USSR are indicated, with which Kleist's personal protection was carried by two Kazaks tskikh regiment, he trusted them more than the SS.

    My grandmother told how the Germans did not have time to come to Ukraine - a third of the men from the street were already running around with rifles and with the "Shutspolitsai" armband ...

    These are from Peter the same bend .... Passport to the teeth and fuck on the Finnish border .... With a belongings ... They fuck nobody there, and even more so .... The cries of the West should be completely ignored as they ignore all our wishes and interests ... I apologize for the rudeness - I hate it, as a fairly adult person with grandchildren can hate.
    Amen
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 15 May 2014 20: 21
      +21
      You know, I’m doubly bitter. I myself am from St. Petersburg. My wife's parents are blockades. Her father survived by a miracle - during the bombing, a stranger with a child was covered by an unknown woman. She gave her life to this child ...
      My father was a prosecutor in 70-90's, examined cases of the repressed, some were rehabilitated. People sat down on denunciations, practically for nothing. But so many are for the cause. Ardent enemies.
      My grandfather went through two wars - Finnish and World War II. All breasts in orders, personalized weapons. And if he lived now - many liberals and pederalys would now lay in blood on the asphalt. And all the veterans would support him.
      I am ashamed of us. People did not wait for their life, but with our tacit consent, or rather not, not so - with our indifference - they are forgotten. Forget everything that they gave their lives for.
      I have children - a son and a daughter. True patriots of their country. There will be grandchildren soon. And they will be people. I swear.
    2. andrejus
      andrejus 16 May 2014 13: 09
      0
      That's right, as in the USSR, all this bastard has a passport in the mouth and there (here or there) broadcast like on "RADIO Svoboda", although they will be listened to (here or there) the same as they are.
      For example, the same Solzhenitsyn. I once read his "Gulag Archipelago" - how much bile, how much anger, and after that he with such a good-natured face declares: - I love Russia. This is upon arrival in Russia, but while he was abroad , very few people have heard of him, although, of course, now the Internet is full of information and everyone thinks that he ate a dog in politics.
      So send them (here and there), as the respected Santor said: - "Passport to the teeth and fuck to the Finnish border .... With belongings ... They don't fucking need anyone there, and even more so ...." ... I can only add that no one needs them here either.
      Vilnius, Lithuania
  32. vezunchik
    vezunchik 15 May 2014 19: 53
    +5
    New information has appeared on the web about the methods used by the oligarchs in Ukraine to crack down on or try to crack down on people who are objectionable to the new Kiev authorities. So, today today two sensational records of telephone conversations are published on YouTube.
    In one of them (be careful: both entries contain profanity!) Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky warns the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, leader of the Yugo-Vostok social movement Oleg Tsarev, that a reward of a million dollars has been assigned for his head.
    In addition, Kolomoisky advises Tsarev to take care of himself, and his relatives, and associates: "You tell me that they (obscene language) are better from here. Because we will hang them right on the square," the oligarch warns. This conversation, judging by the published data, took place on May 9.
    Earlier it was reported that unknown persons in early May burned Tsarev’s office in Dnepropetrovsk, and tried to set fire to his house last night. True, they missed, and the house of neighbors suffered.
    Kolomoisky ordered reprisals against supporters of the federalization of Ukraine in Odessa.
    This telephone conversation between the President of the Association "Suppliers of the Customs Union" Oleg Noginsky with a certain Yan Borisovich took place in Ukraine on May 10, 2014 at 23:18. In a commentary to the entry, it is noted that he was intercepted by former SBU officers, who now call themselves the United Cyber ​​Militia (OKO) of Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkiv regions.
  33. Comintern
    Comintern 15 May 2014 19: 54
    +3
    [quote = smile] Comintern
    Well, someone stupefied with populist slogans went to the swamp area ... so that he perceives, unfortunately ...
    I think not otherwise than for dollars, among their ranks there are few ideological ones.
    1. smile
      smile 15 May 2014 20: 29
      +5
      Comintern
      No, unfortunately, not only for dollars. Even a significant number of our site colleagues, who are now criticizing the maydauns, thought that the slogans of the marshes were correct and fair, and that they were dominated by the daredevil Germans, they weren’t important, they say, it didn’t matter .... they even got offended. when they were called marsh - we supposedly go to the same rallies. we’re yelling at the very same slogans, but not with them ... :))) now, having seen enough of the fact that they organized maydowns under the same slogans, our colleagues have quieted down a bit ... but I doubt that they are now repenting for their shortsightedness ... .
      1. Normal
        Normal 15 May 2014 21: 32
        +5
        Quote: smile
        Comintern
        No, unfortunately, not only for dollars. Even a significant number of our site colleagues, who are now criticizing the maydauns, thought that the slogans of the marshes were correct and fair, and that they were dominated by the daredevil Germans, they weren’t important, they say, it didn’t matter .... they even got offended. when they were called marsh - we supposedly go to the same rallies. we’re yelling at the very same slogans, but not with them ... :))) now, having seen enough of the fact that they organized maydowns under the same slogans, our colleagues have quieted down a bit ... but I doubt that they are now repenting for their shortsightedness ... .

        Greetings, namesake.
        I understand that the post is dedicated to me as well.
        Here are just your persistent attempts to link the Swamp with the Maidan do not have any serious basis.
        The similarity of slogans, you say? Did they shout "Ukrainians for knives" on Bolotnaya? "Who doesn't jump, that ho-ho"? Threw "lighters" into OPON and beat their opponents with bats?
        Don't you like the slogans? And what is wrong with the slogans "For fair elections", "Down with corruption", "The law is one for everyone", "Down with embezzlers", "Down with flashing lights and privileges on the roads"?
        Yes, even if the same slogans were on Maidan, this does not mean that Moscow is Kiev. This does not mean that dissent and even protest, especially the protest is completely justified and fair, inevitably lead to a fascist coup, a popular rebellion or even to riots.
        When the government learns to listen to the opinion, even if not of the majority, but of the reality that exists, when the government understands that there are not only its personal interests, then there will be no need to go out to the square with protests.
      2. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 15 May 2014 21: 38
        0
        ... we supposedly go to the same rallies. yelling the same slogans, but not with them ...

        That would be clear to everyone that’s not with daredevils, you don’t have to go to rallies with them, because the marshy ones themselves, and the media, both foreign and the media / r / A / s / tov all over the world, are yelling that, HOW MUCH daredevil german.
  34. Victor Demchenko
    Victor Demchenko 15 May 2014 20: 01
    +5
    and what set of minus set? I would really like to: the author in the studio !!! I suppose again some sort of opozioner? fool
  35. polly
    polly 15 May 2014 20: 09
    +14
    Real Petersburgers will give an answer to any creaks. Moreover, polite!
  36. mark2
    mark2 15 May 2014 20: 13
    +5
    How many victims of the Stalinist repression, according to advanced representatives of the farthest intelligentsia, we know, but in fact, how many were shot, imprisoned, stolen, resettled ... Half the country sat there to listen to them, and the second half guarded them.
    1. sasha.28blaga
      sasha.28blaga 16 May 2014 06: 33
      0
      In our country this is really a problem, in every second family (according to statistics) there is at least one convict.
  37. RUS33
    RUS33 15 May 2014 20: 16
    +5
    Quote: jktu66
    Yes, let yourself ... Look, they want to hold the 31st parade ... Who will allow them ...
    Let the parade make a parade on Airborne Forces Day smile

    Maybe they will be pleased on the contrary?
  38. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 15 May 2014 20: 19
    +4
    starshina78 RU .... Stalin = this is the man who made the country! What have these done?

    How did these ... these ruined it, and now they are trying to destroy Russia, under the pretext of "caring" about the people they consider to be cattle, so they do not hesitate to speak about the working people, about which they "care" a lot ...
  39. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 15 May 2014 20: 32
    +2
    Our people are generally kind, and I think that they will not regret their few hard-earned ones for the right to knock the bench out from under the feet of these "guardians of democracy", all this is very disgusting, and the auction for a fair spectacle is not bad.
  40. skayl
    skayl 15 May 2014 20: 39
    +1
    From time immemorial, there have been enough such upstarts in Russia, the main thing is to pull them in time, and let them squeak little by little!
  41. fomich1977
    fomich1977 15 May 2014 20: 42
    +1
    http://www.rulit.net/books/tak-govoril-stalin-stati-i-vystupleniya-read-316596-1

    .html

    maybe someone will be interested - Nikolay Viktorovich Starikov (compiler)
    "This is how Stalin said"
    read online
  42. Ilotan
    Ilotan 15 May 2014 20: 42
    +2
    I apologize for being off topic. Hockey. Latvia - USA 6: 5. And now what to do? Rejoice that the Americans lost or are upset that the Latvians won?
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 15 May 2014 21: 05
      +4
      Rejoice that the Russians are not defeated at the moment!
      And sport, he is apolitical. One can only rejoice or be upset from the point of view of fan biases.
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 15 May 2014 22: 28
        -1
        Yes, of course - "apolitical" ...
        Are you from the moon?
        And you don't know what "fixed" matches are, and what if it is necessary that someone would lose, the athletes are paid for it, what would they lose?
        Either naive or NHL ...
    2. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 15 May 2014 21: 07
      +1
      It remains only to bitterly recall the Olympics, and once again for myself to conclude:
      RUSSIAN HOCKEY PLAYERS PLAYING OR PLAYING IN AMR / I / K / OSSKY CLUBS TO BE INVOLVED IN SUCH RESPONSIBLE GAMES - NOT ALLOWED! I personally IN THEIR PATRIOTISM to RUSSIA - I DO NOT BELIEVE!
      1. Hariva
        Hariva 15 May 2014 21: 31
        +1
        Excuse me, but why did Ovechkin score an enchanting bullet to the Americans?
        1. ia-ai00
          ia-ai00 15 May 2014 22: 14
          +3
          Ovechkin scored an enchanting bullet... - and that’s it!
          And the team shamefully lost...

          22.12.2013/21/38 / XNUMX:XNUMX PM / NHL.com/en - News
          On Friday, Alexander Ovechkin reached another milestone, quietly throwing the puck into the empty net of the Carolina Hurricanes, securing the Washington Capitals a 4-2 victory. He still dominates the statistical reports.

          It was the 400th goal of Ovechkin and he scored it in his 634 game. Faster than in the history of the NHL, only five people reached this figure. In 33 games this season, Ovechkin managed to distinguish himself 29 times and he leads the list of the best NHL snipers.


          And what is such a "super-duper" in the games for Russia so screwed up ???
          For me - everything is clear why ...!
          Yes, and not one he played there from the NHL, so, in the best case, we will remain everyone with their own opinion.
          1. Hariva
            Hariva 15 May 2014 22: 37
            +2
            Are you interested in hockey at all? Or lay out the first link you get?
            22.12.2013/21/38 / XNUMX:XNUMX PM / NHL.com/en - News
            On Friday, Alexander Ovechkin reached another milestone, quietly throwing the puck into the empty net of the Carolina Hurricanes, securing the Washington Capitals a 4-2 victory. He continues to dominate statistics.

            Why are you doing this ???? What does the news from last year have to do with it?
            Just a couple of days ago. at the World Cup, Ovechkin scored a gorgeous bullet against the Americans, after which our team began its already famous "carousel".
            1. ia-ai00
              ia-ai00 15 May 2014 22: 50
              +1
              It's me that Ovechkin - great hockey player, and not Russia, judging by its results there, overseas.
              I understand perfectly that sport is sport. And for all the Olympic Games, I didn’t get the same feeling as for hockey players for any of the athletes, and for no team of Russian athletes who did not take first places or even won any awards.
              Remembering the games of Soviet hockey players, which are FULLY MEANING BONES LAY ON ICE FOR VICTORY, PRESTIGE THE COUNTRYstill admiring them, and if they lost, then there was no doubt that all the forces were given, and there was no doubt and irritation, but HERE - IZZV-I-N-I-T-E ...
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 15 May 2014 22: 23
        +2
        Quote: ia-ai00
        RUSSIAN HOCKEY PLAYERS PLAYING OR PLAYING IN AMR / I / K / OSSKY CLUBS TO BE ATTRACTED TO SUCH RESPONSIBLE GAMES - NOT ALLOWED! Personally, I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THEIR PATRIOTISM to RUSSIA!

        Enough to carry nonsense ... Well, it’s not always possible to win, there are failures, there are defeats, there are victories where you do not wait. This is a sport ...
        1. ia-ai00
          ia-ai00 15 May 2014 22: 30
          0
          And you do not know that after the Olympics, at Ovechkin, with pucking everything went well, like clockwork?
        2. Truth-lover
          Truth-lover 15 May 2014 23: 01
          +2
          Not everyone thinks so. According to certain individuals, everyone pays for their victories. Or do not pay extra and get defeated. Ndyayayayaya. But I wonder how much M. Schumacher laid out for his 7 league titles? A simple for his four? And Khorkina? What about Maradonna? And Smetanina? Raisa who paid that? IOC?
          1. ia-ai00
            ia-ai00 15 May 2014 23: 07
            0
            Do not exaggerate, I judge, for all the held games of the Olympics of the hockey team for Russia, I have SEEED ALL of them. Since 1972, I have been looking at everything, to one, there is nothing to compare.
            1. Truth-lover
              Truth-lover 15 May 2014 23: 21
              +2
              Now it’s become even more difficult for me to understand you. so you all saw ... As you saw, not a single hockey olympiad was taken from the beginning of the developed post-Soviet reality. In this case, the players of all, without exception, national teams affairs in nat. championships were not bad at all (otherwise they would not have been taken to the national team). But let me! How did they get 2 World Cups? And so grandly began the last? These are basically the same people!
  43. Arkan
    Arkan 15 May 2014 20: 58
    +1
    grant eaters


    More precisely calometes.

    why argue that you learned about these events from me?


    Learned from you. Well, they have a conspiracy!
  44. tokin1959
    tokin1959 15 May 2014 20: 59
    +5
    vampires of the cross are afraid, and liberalists are akin to vampires - they are contorted by the portrait of Stalin and they begin to spew bile.
  45. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 15 May 2014 21: 00
    +5
    I don’t feel like talking a lot about this topic (and so in my opinion everything is clear), I will give only the words of Stalin
    My name will be slandered, they will attribute to me many atrocities. World Zionism will strive with all its might to destroy our Union, so that Russia will never rise again. The edge of the struggle will be aimed at separating the outskirts from Russia. With particular force, nationalism will lift its head. There will be many pygmy leaders, traitors within their nations. In general, in the future development will go more difficult and even frantic ways, turns will be extremely steep. The point is that the East is especially agitated. There will be sharp contradictions with the West. And yet, no matter how the events unfold, but time will pass, and the eyes of new generations will be turned to the deeds and victories of our socialist Fatherland. Year after year, new generations will come. They will again raise the banner of their fathers and grandfathers and give us all due. They will build their future on our past.
    J. Stalin
  46. Inok10
    Inok10 15 May 2014 21: 05
    +12
    ... without words ..
  47. tank64rus
    tank64rus 15 May 2014 21: 08
    +7
    A Russian citizen came out with a portrait of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief on Victory Day of the Soviet People in the Great Patriotic War. All. Stop listening to different pi ... or foreign agents (grant-eaters). A lot of them bred in the damned 90s. Enough.
  48. Vasily Klopkov
    Vasily Klopkov 15 May 2014 21: 09
    +14
    Secular joke!

    He sits in a Russian cafe and has an afternoon snack. On his table lies a sandwich with jam and granola. An American approaches him and, chewing gum, asks him:
    - But you, the whole Russian eat bread?
    Russian answers:
    - Sure! And what?
    The American, inflating a bubble of chewing gum, says:
    “But we are not!” We Americans only eat crumbs, and we collect the crusts into containers, process them, make muesli from them and sell them to Russia!
    Russian is silent. The American, again inflating a bubble from a chewing gum, asks:
    - And you Russians eat sandwiches with jam?
    Russian answers:
    - Of course, eat!
    “But we are not!” We in America eat only fresh fruits. We collect seeds, peel and all sorts of bits there into containers, process, make jam from them and sell to Russia!
    And happy again inflates the bubble. This, finally, pretty offended the Russian and he, in turn, asks:
    - What do you do with condoms after use?
    American:
    - Throw away, of course.
    Russian:
    “But we are not!” We Russians collect them in containers, process them, make chewing gum from them and sell them to America.
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 15 May 2014 23: 15
      +1
      Under the "curtain" - POSITIVE from you! You +!
  49. vasiliysxx
    vasiliysxx 15 May 2014 21: 10
    +1
    In general, all the same testicles, side view. The question is, what is it that they suddenly stirred.


    These are nits, that’s stirring.
  50. miha.ru
    miha.ru 15 May 2014 21: 15
    0
    I would advise them to carry out all this crap at the ministry of education, because in schools they teach such garbage right now that it is ridiculous for me to finish school just two years ago to look at the information that new textbooks give children right now!