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The dawn of a young republic: basic threats to a free Donbass

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The dawn of a young republic: basic threats to a free Donbass



De facto, the new republic in the Donbass has already been created. Another question is whether it will remain in the current borders. Or it will become Novorossia and will include some other regions of the South-East of Ukraine. Either it compromises with Kiev and enters a confederative union.

There are many options - and the answers to everything depend solely on political will and the right goals.

Today, we can state the fact that Donbass has gained political subjectivity and has become an independent player in the region.

Therefore, it makes sense to identify a number of challenges that the young republic will face.

Power disposition after the referendum

The main threats, of course, are in the force field. Because none of the members of the junta will accept the results of the referendum - to recognize the loss of Donbass would mean to sign in their own unsuitability and open up opportunities for XRUME Euromaidan - which will take Turchinov and Co.

Therefore, of course, no one in Kiev will refuse to use force.

However, there are no power opportunities to regain control of the Donbass - consequently, Kiev will turn to sabotage tactics. So, the Donbass will be flooded with hundreds of small groups, the purpose of which will be to hold local actions - both against the infrastructure and against local residents. It will be difficult to catch them - therefore, they will not take more prisoners. And this will bring the conflict into a new orbit of violence.

In the east of Ukraine there will be a clear bastion - the patrimony of the FIG “Privat” by Igor Kolomoisky. The Dnipropetrovsk region will become a front-line territory, therefore, all forces will be thrown precisely on the defense of the “principality Privat”, which after the appointment of the companion Kolomoisky as governor, has grown into the Odessa region.

At the same time, the Ukrainian army no longer wants to fight, therefore, total desertion will soon begin. Deserters will return home, or adjoin hundreds of Euromaidan, Privat mercenaries or battalions of the DPR army.

Since the front line has shifted and blurred, the small towns in the front-line zone will create their local militia and swear allegiance to Ukraine and Donbass - just not to plunder.

The most important factor in the fighting will be that very soon there will be a shortage of fuel and lubricants in the republic. First, it will disappear from citizens, then it will become a deficit for business. Who will have reserves of gasoline and diesel fuel - he will win a tactical advantage in a military conflict.

There is no other way out of the Donbass, except to demolish power in Kiev and the “principality Privat”, simply not - otherwise the young republic will become the territory of the war of all against all. And begin to decompose into small pieces.

Separation of the republican economy

Since the state budget of Ukraine will experience serious problems - most likely, Donbas will block the transfer of pensions and salaries to state employees (to cause dissatisfaction with the new republic). In fact, this will only offend citizens, but, be that as it may, the young republic will have to solve the tasks of economic isolation from the dying economy of Ukraine in an emergency way.

The fact is that the economic model of Ukraine was built on the principle that the majority of industrial holdings were registered in Kiev.

That is, the production is located somewhere in Kramatorsk or Gorlovka, and the place of registration of the management company is in the Pechersk or Shevchenko district of Kiev.

And now, even if Donbass stops transferring taxes to Kiev, it will not lead to anything significant. Because taxes make up an insignificant part of real financial flows.

The main finances are located in the internal accounting department: real production - managing superstructure - trader - offshore. And the main links of the chain, as we remember, are in Kiev.

Therefore, the young republic will have to deal with the budget at the level of each individual production and in fact destroy the financial schemes that have lined up over the years. And if we consider that offshore companies are still involved in these schemes, then the work remains to be serious. In any case, you will have to face the resistance of the oligarchy, which will obviously strive to preserve the usual mode of marauding management.

You can start with the assets of the oligarch Taruta - he clearly plays against the republic, and there is nothing to expect from him except for harm. It is on its assets that one can test the nationalization and deoffshorization of industry and industry.
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  1. SS68SS
    SS68SS 15 May 2014 12: 53
    +29
    There are more than enough "well-wishers". The way home will not be easy. This is the beginning. The first step has been taken. Welcome!
    1. Validator
      Validator 15 May 2014 13: 03
      +10
      There was a record of threats to Tsarev from the Kolomoisky and the Jewish community of the Dnieper. Million dollars and the threat of hanging loved ones in the central square
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvixppJqOvE
      1. MG42
        MG42 15 May 2014 13: 13
        +22
        THE ULTIMATUM JUNT FROM THE Riflemen - 24 HOURS TO DISCHARGE THE MILITARY ON MAY 14
        May 14 21 00 Deputy Igor Strelkov gives 24 hours for the withdrawal of junta troops
        Deputy commander-in-chief of the DPR troops Igor Strelkov Sergey Zdrilyuk nicknamed "Abwehr" said that if within 24 hours the Ukrainian security forces did not drive military equipment away from the city, then everything would "be burned and destroyed."

        “If military equipment is not driven away from Donetsk within 24 hours, I am not responsible for my actions. There will be no negotiations with anyone except representatives of the people's government.
        If equipment from Donetsk is not driven away for 20-30 kilometers, roadblocks are not removed, then everything will be burned and destroyed. We already have diversionary reconnaissance groups. Heavy weapons are also there.
        I repeat, in the event that armored vehicles are not driven away from Donetsk, Mariupol and other cities where there is our strength and popular resistance within 24 hours, the posts of the so-called legitimate authority are not removed, we will have enough forces and means to destroy them.


        time has gone
        1. 29261
          29261 15 May 2014 17: 45
          +2
          The rat-eaters have played enough! APPLAUSE !!!!!
        2. Kisel
          Kisel 15 May 2014 21: 25
          0
          the operation goes through the stages of “containment”, “seizing the initiative”, “domination”, “stabilization” and “restoration of civil power”
      2. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 15 May 2014 13: 16
        +17
        So curious, where is the reaction of the "flash society" in the person of the representatives of the Jewish oligarchy?
        Probably waiting for the reaction of the Russian people and Slavs around the world in relation to their "public"?
        Want a recurrence of events in Germany in the first half of the last century?




        1. Validator
          Validator 15 May 2014 13: 41
          +25
          The reaction will be. Jews today-tomorrow will disown Kalomoisky and his crimes. And poison Benya is very humane to poison, it needs to be caught and hung in the most natural way for an egg. On the central square of the Dnieper and write: for Odessa
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 15 May 2014 14: 38
            +6
            Yes, Benny got into it by the least indulge! Now both of them will deny him (is this word suitable for him?)
          2. ty60
            ty60 15 May 2014 19: 16
            0
            Jews declared neutrality, for which the monkey reprimanded them.
        2. vedross
          vedross 15 May 2014 15: 28
          +4
          The Jews are restrained only by the fear of retaliation, and so with them, what exactly does the Ben Ben Jew do, figs! They are cutting Russians, well, to hell with them, only we, the Jews, didn’t get it.
        3. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 16: 59
          +5
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Want a recurrence of events in Germany in the first half of the last century?

          "Kristallnacht"? No, dear ones, then there were no "200s". The ghouls raised by the State Department are not for you Rem = Schicklgruber, they are much more dangerous. "Chosen," i.p.m. "think again! What are you doing with your Kalomoys?" "Holocaust", "Holocaust" .. wipe your eyes, read about Odessa and be horrified if you have hearts! This was done with YOUR money, under YOUR applause, to YOUR interests! Think about it! VS Vysotsky sang: "After all, almost a quarter of our people are there? You will prolong this to the fascist Bendera people? Where are the comments of the people of the" chosen one "? Languages ​​in an interesting place Or did the test for "pregnancy" really exist? "Atalef", "Anasrat", answer, pigeons!
      3. ArhipenkoAndrey
        ArhipenkoAndrey 15 May 2014 14: 18
        +13
        Well, the sponsors of the Nazis showed up, they financed Hitler at the same time, and the methods are the same, the hostages pay, bribe, and cry over the Kalomoy ice ax.
    2. Akvadra
      Akvadra 15 May 2014 13: 07
      +7
      The "Red Skating Rink" cannot be stopped. There can be many scenarios for the development of events - the result is one.
      1. jjj
        jjj 15 May 2014 13: 21
        +17
        The Republic is proclaimed. Now a constitution is needed. Then the election of a new parliament. The preparation and adoption of the code of laws. Then law enforcement practice. This is a year or two. And people need money yesterday. So a temporary decree will have to introduce local taxes on oligarchic structures and from this money to form budgets of all levels. With the hryvnia will be tight. Liquidity will always be lacking, and indeed the Central Bank of Ukraine will shut off the tap. So, it will be necessary to introduce the ruble as a means of payment, well, not print your own money.
        Crimea in this situation was easier. We have come under a ready jurisdiction and financial system and are adapting to it. Donbass has a lot of trouble ahead - a mouth full
    3. petrT
      petrT 15 May 2014 13: 15
      +7
      And no one thinks and did not expect that it will be easy, in my opinion everything is just beginning. Now the whole southeast will begin to shake, and not only financially. It’s just that now we need competent people who are thinking about finances, etc. Here, most likely, such assistance will already be rendered to Tihar from Russia. Well, it’s not just that Akhmetov had an opinion about the desire to stop the military operation in the southeast, but in finance he steers!
      1. podpolkovnik
        podpolkovnik 15 May 2014 17: 01
        +2
        Quote: petrT
        And no one thinks and did not expect that it will be easy, in my opinion everything is just beginning. Now the whole southeast will begin to shake, and not only financially. It’s just that now we need competent people who are thinking about finances, etc. Here, most likely, such assistance will already be rendered to Tihar from Russia. Well, it’s not just that Akhmetov had an opinion about the desire to stop the military operation in the southeast, but in finance he steers!
      2. avia1991
        avia1991 15 May 2014 18: 49
        +1
        Quote: petrT
        Well, it’s not just that Akhmetov had an opinion about the desire to stop the military operation in the southeast, but in finance he steers!

        Akhmetov is not so simple .. Today from Mariupol came infa about his contact with Kiev:
        “The leaders of Medinvest, a company controlled by Rinat Akhmetov, were tasked with collecting signatures on the document, demanding that the Kiev authorities send troops to the territory of Donbass.

        Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1400147334
      3. ty60
        ty60 15 May 2014 19: 21
        +1
        statements alone are not enough. Business and finances are needed. Let it work in Donetsk and Lugansk - after the final victory it will be a bust in the main square while it’s still alive.
    4. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 15 May 2014 13: 16
      +3
      Quote: SS68SS
      There are more than enough "well-wishers". The way home will not be easy. This is the beginning. The first step has been taken. Welcome!

      So for the "computer" Russian patriots - economists, a vast field of action. And why not start saving the Russian economy from the oligarchs from Novorossia ?! The article is very helpful. "A plus"
      1. Ased
        Ased 15 May 2014 13: 38
        +5
        Seditious thought: Immediately after the election, the republic will be much easier. The Kiev authorities, applicants and all power structures will be split over each other. All together will declare the illegitimacy of the elections and temporarily forget about the eastern regions.
    5. Siberian German
      Siberian German 16 May 2014 07: 46
      0
      and it seems to me that there is only one basic threat - the passive behavior of Russia in relation to Donetsk and Lugansk
    6. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 16 May 2014 07: 56
      0
      Quote: SS68SS
      There are more than enough "well-wishers". The way home will not be easy. This is the beginning. The first step has been taken. Welcome!

      The most important events are now worth waiting for in the Odessa region and in Kharkov. If the local population finds the strength to take the path of confrontation with the Kiev authorities, then the survival of the DPR will increase sharply. But the most important issue is the control of border areas and checkpoints.
  2. mig31
    mig31 15 May 2014 12: 57
    +11
    To stop the movement of anti-fascists, the New Russia to grow ....
  3. Giant thought
    Giant thought 15 May 2014 12: 58
    +6
    Financial problems, of course, will confront the young republics. To help solve them will help experts who are always there. Militarily, the republics are distancing themselves. But in all aspects of the existence of the republics, the necessary condition is the unconditional help of Russia.
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 15 May 2014 13: 30
      +6
      let's say that the article is a lot of constructive, the only thing you can’t lose sight of is that if the fears of Russian intervention somehow restrain the junta from using the full range of fire weapons, the Air Force and armored vehicles, then feeling the hopelessness of their position, the bandits can go all-in , and here dozens of times more blood will be shed than for all the previous confrontation. First of all, anti-tank weapons, manual air defense systems, large-caliber machine guns, and organization of fire ambushes at the place where helicopters regularly appear, i.e. anything that can limit as much as possible the use of these funds, in which the junta troops have an overwhelming advantage
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 15 May 2014 13: 00
    +2
    The new republics simply need vital business executives and organizers of new branches of government.

    It is hard to say how the processes will proceed in this regard.
    1. nvv
      nvv 15 May 2014 13: 49
      0
      Business executives and organizers are already eager for battle.
      1. nvv
        nvv 15 May 2014 17: 33
        +1
        Reb.ya.ya.ta when you put a minus, justify!
        1. sv68
          sv68 15 May 2014 17: 42
          +4
          duck minus you put koala agents wassat Don’t overshadow the attention-nw
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  5. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 15 May 2014 13: 04
    +13
    It is time to unblock the border with the Russian Federation from the rebel structures of Maidan Kiev - to set up their own DNR border guards. Then step on to Kiev.
    1. Good_Taxist
      Good_Taxist 15 May 2014 13: 20
      +1
      Down and Out trouble started!
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 18: 01
        0
        Quote: Good_Taxist
        Down and Out trouble started!

        Down and Out trouble started!
    2. andj61
      andj61 15 May 2014 13: 46
      +9
      Quote: mojohed2012
      It is time to unblock the border with the Russian Federation from the rebel structures of Maidan Kiev - to set up their own DNR border guards. Then step on to Kiev.

      The border is now the first and very important step. But without strong power structures it is difficult to take control of the border. Here, everything clings to one another.
      Building your own state is not an easy task. However, there is a successful experience of Transnistria, and it was even more difficult for them. Taxes, finances, banking structures, production chains - everything is very important and everything comes first. We need specialists!
      1. ksv500
        ksv500 15 May 2014 14: 02
        +4
        Like it or not, borders are the main thing! This is help from Russia, including fuels and lubricants, and hryvnias collected in Crimea can be brought there. They don’t need us and Donchany to help with Nazi dishonesty
  6. Azzzwer
    Azzzwer 15 May 2014 13: 05
    +2
    the word "PEOPLE" was missed on the flag! Not in order!
  7. Validator
    Validator 15 May 2014 13: 07
    0

    kalomoysky must die from poison from africa
    1. Ross
      Ross 15 May 2014 15: 39
      +2
      kalomoysky must die from poison from africa

      Yet not everything is as simple as it seems. Here is a transcript without cuts of 2's conversations, each complementing each other:
      http://politikus.ru/events/19223-narodnaya-voyna-protiv-ukrainskoy-oligarhii-i-e
      e-ruchnoy-kievskoy-hunty.html
      The recording raises many questions. Wasn't Kolomoisky financing Tsarev's presidential campaign? Leading the resistance is an effective tactic. And in Nikolaev "saved" from the Bandera and took him home (to Dnepropetrovsk!). All this is very suspicious. And Putin doesn't pay much attention to Tsarev (he probably has that dossier). And Pavel Gubarev with Strelkov (a former military consultant of Aksenov in Crimea, by the way) went to Donetsk, and not to Tsarev. It looks like the Kremlin puts on Gubarev and not on Tsarev. They probably know more there than we do.
  8. zao74
    zao74 15 May 2014 13: 09
    +3
    So we will help the young republic with advice, experts, and. etc.
  9. Agat
    Agat 15 May 2014 13: 12
    +6
    A. Wasserman proposed to appoint Yanukovych as the head of Novorossiya. "The President of Ukraine has experience in managing at the highest state level, and his legitimacy is undeniable."
    http://rusnovosti.ru/news/318395
    Great idea !! The United States and Europe then do not dig. And then it will be seen after February 2015! At the same time rehabilitated in front of his people
    1. kosmos84
      kosmos84 15 May 2014 13: 18
      +3
      Schnick this clearly there is no need negative and let Wasserman try good
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  10. skylare
    skylare 15 May 2014 13: 20
    +4
    The first thing a young Republic needs to do is to remove the intervention troops from its territory and designate a clear and protected state border. Then establish close economic cooperation with the Russian Federation and try to eliminate financial difficulties, the benefit of the industrial region. And with a serious and prosperous army, it will be possible to provide assistance to other regions of the former Ukraine, maybe even with subsequent accession.
  11. sem-yak
    sem-yak 15 May 2014 13: 23
    +1
    I somehow did not quite understand. The author is afraid that people will not give money to fret?
    There would be something to implement, and it's not tricky to reolize! But what the "tops" in Kiev will do when there is no production and the management is there, this "zoo circus" will be very interesting to watch!
    1. andj61
      andj61 15 May 2014 13: 51
      +3
      Not so simple. For production, you need to buy raw materials, resources, components, etc., you need to sell products, you need working capital.
      If you just remove the "top", then the production itself will stop. An experienced crisis manager is needed here, whose actions will be aimed at restarting production in new conditions, and not (as is usually the case) at ensuring the interests of creditors.
      Shots solve everything!
  12. Turk
    Turk 15 May 2014 13: 23
    +3
    Quote: Akvadra
    The "Red Skating Rink" cannot be stopped. There can be many scenarios for the development of events - the result is one.
  13. Gloria45
    Gloria45 15 May 2014 13: 28
    +7
    The main threats, of course, are in the force field. Because none of the members of the junta will accept the results of the referendum - to recognize the loss of Donbass would mean to sign in their own unsuitability and open up opportunities for XRUME Euromaidan - which will take Turchinov and Co.

    The real war is just ahead :: A deadly analytical warning for
    Regions: Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev, Zaporozhye.
    Have you noticed why yesterday, at the DPR conference, they said "we will try
    to cope with the Ukrainian invaders "? Do you know why they said that? Because the Kiev
    the junta itself will begin in the coming days, to urgently withdraw troops from the Donbass. Unless ... they are just not complete suicides of course. Now the worst ...:
    We all know that if the Kiev junta doesn’t have a great mind, then their American mistresses
    have serious analysts. Not as smart as in Russia, but still. Donbass for the USA
    lost, it’s unique. Spending more money on it, sending troops does not make sense.
    Since there really is no point, there will only be losses. But the US just doesn’t
    give up. They will now begin to redirect Ukrainian troops to strategically important
    areas: Odessa, Zaporozhye, Kherson and Nikolaev.
    What are these regions totally important for?
    https://www.facebook.com/MirIRossia/photos/a.298612033576048.60950.2985435302495

    65 / 523120134458569 /? Type = 1 & theater
    The Poles say they are not afraid of the Russian military. Photo: polska-kaliningrad.ru
    Poland is ready to send its troops to Ukraine
    The first group of counter-saboteurs will take up combat duty in the Ukrainian Southeast before the presidential election.
    Vlad Krymsky

    Poland is ready to prepare and send to Ukraine up to 10 thousands of “counter-saboteurs” - volunteers from among the former military. About a thousand military experts have already been selected and are ready for deployment across the border.

    A significant part of them are veterans of all kinds of special units. It is expected that the first group of Polish "counter-saboteurs" will take up combat duty in the Ukrainian southeast before the presidential election, which is scheduled for May 25. The main intrigue here is on what basis and in what status foreigners will fight with the Ukrainian people on their own land.

    http://versia.ru/articles/2014/may/14/polska_vvedet_voyska_na_ukr?utm_source=twi

    tterfeed & utm_medium = twitter

    Hochetsia verit ', chto eto blef, osobenno vtoraya stat'ya
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 15 May 2014 13: 36
      +5
      Quote: gloria45
      Poland is ready to prepare and send to Ukraine up to 10 thousands of “counter-saboteurs” - volunteers from among the former military. About a thousand military experts have already been selected and are ready for deployment across the border.


      But in the status of a separate, though not recognized republic, Novorossia may ask for help from Russia and will probably receive it. And then I won’t envy these counter-diversions, they will remember all the good things.
  14. mamont5
    mamont5 15 May 2014 13: 32
    +3
    "It will be difficult to catch them - therefore, they will not be taken prisoner anymore."

    Catch and hang on the border, as the corpses of ravens are hung on the edge of the field to scare away flocks of birds.
  15. Validator
    Validator 15 May 2014 13: 37
    +10
    Rather, they would start to hand them
    1. MG42
      MG42 15 May 2014 13: 47
      +13
      First, you need to decide whether to build Novorossiya, or Ukraine to "liberate".
      I believe that FIGs do not go to Kiev, especially to Lviv, where the population is totally hostile. Now there is no NKVD to combat total banderization.
      Galicia goes to Europe unambiguously. Here Dnepropetrovsk and Kherson would be "overpowered" as a weak link in New Russia.
      Oleg you are a dreamer.
      1. Validator
        Validator 15 May 2014 13: 55
        +2
        Quote: MG42
        First, you need to decide whether to build Novorossiya, or Ukraine to "liberate".
        I believe that FIGs do not go to Kiev, especially to Lviv, where the population is totally hostile. Now there is no NKVD to combat total banderization.
        Galicia goes to Europe unambiguously. Here Dnepropetrovsk and Kherson would be "overpowered" as a weak link in New Russia.

        As one well-known "officer's daughter" said, not everything is so simple :) First, there are many adequate, normal Russian people in the central and even western outskirts. And secondly, cleverly-popykh ukrov with a head washed clean ukrosmi very soon will make the stomach think. There, even without a civil war, in a few months there would be a northern fox, but now, and even with the separation of Donbass, this is a matter of 2-3 months. So by the fall, even the jumping comrades will realize that they can feed their families only if they are friends with Russia. So it will only be necessary to nail a small bunch of thugs dogs
        1. MG42
          MG42 15 May 2014 14: 06
          +3
          Quote: Validator
          firstly, in the central and even western outskirts there are many adequate, normal Russian people.

          Almost one Bandera is sitting in the western one, the percentage of Russians is minimal, especially those who are not brainwashed by Svidomism.
          1. ArhipenkoAndrey
            ArhipenkoAndrey 15 May 2014 14: 31
            +3
            Here they are the heirs of people who burn and kill according to the precepts of the old unfinished fascist with their iron cross from Hitler, they just do not understand that the end of these heirs will be like that of a grandfather a policeman.
            1. MG42
              MG42 15 May 2014 14: 49
              +4
              Restaurant in Lviv BROWN framed in the form of a UPA cache, there is also a shooting gallery in the basement where you can shoot UPA weapons.
              1. Day 11
                Day 11 15 May 2014 14: 53
                +1
                Is MG-42 there?
                1. MG42
                  MG42 15 May 2014 15: 08
                  +4
                  Unless on the poster, look mg-34 is unlikely, otherwise the Lvov basement will blow up >>
                  1. Day 11
                    Day 11 15 May 2014 15: 13
                    -1
                    I don’t understand something --- they’re shooting from pneumatics there? It’s not interesting. I thought ... By the way, it’s interesting for which growth targets.
                    1. MG42
                      MG42 15 May 2014 15: 21
                      +2
                      Go see for yourself, I heard the truth is there is a tight face control
                      1. Day 11
                        Day 11 15 May 2014 15: 37
                        0
                        With pleasure, I would go --- I'm afraid I won't pass the face control. And if I shout, "Glory to Ukraine", will they let me go?
                      2. MG42
                        MG42 15 May 2014 15: 50
                        +3
                        Quote: Den 11
                        I'm afraid I won't pass face control. And if I shout, "Glory to Ukraine", will they let me?


                        Galician assailants will not let in, only possession of ukromova without an accent
                        Actually enough about this, so that without ads.
      2. jktu66
        jktu66 15 May 2014 15: 05
        +2
        So you only need to nail a small bunch of Dogs, thugs-kov
        I'm afraid that an empty stomach will again direct the hatred of millions of ukrov again to Russia. Whatever happens, these people will remain in a different reality, they have their own logic, instilled in decades of dissociation from all Russian.
    2. ty60
      ty60 15 May 2014 19: 39
      0
      Nikolaev, KHERSON, ODESSA, ZAPOROZHE_all pick up. Volyn may then creep in. Galicia nehai Wishes. By geyropeyski
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 15 May 2014 19: 44
        0
        But we’ll pull? Are you ready to sacrifice your children’s education? I’m the same patriot as YOU, but the collapse will not come? I’m without any irony. Frankly speaking, I’m not strong
  16. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 15 May 2014 13: 49
    +2
    + "For the Victory over Svidomism"!
  • x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 15 May 2014 13: 45
    +9
    Quote: mamont5
    Poland is ready to prepare and send to Ukraine up to 10 thousands of “counter-saboteurs” - volunteers from among the former military. About a thousand military experts have already been selected and are ready for deployment across the border.

    Well then what? The choice is theirs. The guys run up hard. Let them risk their health, no one will stand on ceremony with them. There will be many nameless knolls ...
  • Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 15 May 2014 13: 47
    +3
    A bit off topic: I heard that Naftogaz of Ukraine now officially disposes of the son of the US vice president!
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 15 May 2014 13: 48
    +4
    The main threat is still inside. From the entire leadership of the republics, we know several people who really fight for freedom and flicker on the screen. It’s not even clear who the other deputies, mayors and other bosses are, what their plans and interests are, who bought them, what he promised, what they will do, how they will fight for their business. In general, sabotage will be hellish. The Bolsheviks at one time immediately significant nationalized everything, but here a purely bourgeois government, instead of building a state, they are likely to be engaged in the construction of personal well-being. And personally, I will not guarantee that very soon the republics will not turn into dictatorships, which may be what will save them. The second option is if Russia actively and immediately swallows management and big business, not even officially.
  • individual
    individual 15 May 2014 13: 48
    +2
    Here they write about a compromise with Kiev and will Donbass join a confederate association?
    ---
    With every shot of Kiev in the South-East there will be a return destroying Ukraine to ruins.
  • Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 15 May 2014 13: 53
    +20
    Odessa gloomy joke

    “Dad,” asked little Sarochka from Odessa, “can the Lord allow me to send a Valentine to a person who belongs to another religion?”
    “I think so,” answered daddy, a middle-aged Jew. - And to whom would you like to send a Valentine?
    - Alexander Turchinov
    - Alexander Turchinov?!?!?! asked the shocked father. - But why?
    “Well,” said Sarochka, “imagine: Turchinov receives a valentine with a declaration of love from a little Jewish girl. He will begin to think that not everyone in Odessa is so bad, and will love the world a little more. And then, when he receives a few more valentines, he will understand that the Southeast is really beautiful, and he will finally stop tearing down and publicly acknowledge his mistakes.
    “Sarochka,” said the deeply moved father, “this is the most beautiful thing I have ever heard ...”
    “I know, daddy,” Sarochka answered. - And when he stops hiding from the people, our militia will finally shoot this bitch ..
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 18: 05
      0
      Quote: Ivan Tucha
      “I know, daddy,” Sarochka answered. - And when he stops hiding from the people, our militia will finally shoot this bitch ..

      Jewish wisdom: "It's good to be smart, like my wife later."
  • zzz
    zzz 15 May 2014 13: 53
    +3
    Akhmetov betrayed the Donbass!
    1. Iskander Khan
      Iskander Khan 15 May 2014 16: 28
      +4
      It's a shame. For ten years I followed and listened to the opinion of Akhmetov and hoped that one day he would head Ukraine and raise, like his empire ... Not fate. Akhmetov turned out to be a cowardly conformist. Afraid of real power. Prefer to bend under the jackals. Well. A lion working for jackals is not a lion.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 18: 09
        0
        Quote: Iskander Khan
        Well. A lion working for jackals is not a lion

        The jackal lion is not related. Jackal strip-Bendery patch.
  • parus2nik
    parus2nik 15 May 2014 13: 56
    +1
    There will be unity in power, as well as unity of power and people .. difficulties can be overcome .. But there is no return ....
  • Komsomolec80
    Komsomolec80 15 May 2014 13: 57
    +1
    Soon, the oligarchs will begin to tear each other's throats, it will be fun.
  • bronik
    bronik 15 May 2014 14: 03
    +9
    I remember how my father, who went through the Second World War from the first to the last day, spoke about the Poles. There was not a single good word about them. They shot ours, only in the back and only at night (after the Victory), and he had two shrapnel wounds to the head during the capture of Warsaw. One fragment killed him in 1979. The father even spoke more warmly about the Germans. I did not forget and his grandchildren remember the vileness of the Psheks.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 18: 12
      0
      Quote: bronik
      I have not forgotten, and his grandchildren remember the vileness of the zheks.

      These are the colleagues of our "shitcrats", their ideological "twin brothers-sexual partners".
  • individual
    individual 15 May 2014 14: 04
    +2
    For a successful seizure of power according to Lenin - it sounded:
    “... so that they would certainly be busy a) a telephone, b) a telegraph, c) railway stations ...”
    If you add television and banks.
    To create new government structures, the first stage of statehood will be built.
  • Gorko
    Gorko 15 May 2014 14: 08
    -16%
    Meanwhile, banditry is flourishing in Lugansk. I must say right away that I do not support either Kiev or the Donbass, both have messed up enough, although Kiev has messed up more.
    By the way, on some resources, Roskomnadzor banned these videos.

    1. Day 11
      Day 11 15 May 2014 14: 50
      +6
      Well, what did you want to show with this video? Now you’ll get some ghouls under this business. He dressed in camouflage, took Boar and went to clean up wealthy citizens, shouting something about the militia of Donbass. Nothing, these will also answer. Another question is who coordinates this all. In light of the latest revelations ...
      1. tokin1959
        tokin1959 15 May 2014 16: 32
        +2
        this video is about nothing.
        maybe pravosekov or Svidomo what tied.
        maybe it's not criminals.
    2. Rohon
      Rohon 15 May 2014 16: 48
      +1
      (May hut from the edge) and all sorts of crap happens. Thugs have made money, in front of passers-by ...
    3. Oml
      Oml 15 May 2014 17: 35
      0
      There's banditry - blяDue to the Ukrainian Kiev authorities, who do this on purpose, I use all the insignificance for this, especially the Western one.
  • saag
    saag 15 May 2014 14: 12
    +1
    Akhmetov betrayed the Donbass! http://www.anna-news.info/node/16033
    1. arch_kate3
      arch_kate3 15 May 2014 14: 41
      +3
      So he is an oligarch, not a fighter for justice!
      1. nvv
        nvv 15 May 2014 17: 13
        0
        And besides, also a Jew. Forgive me, normal Jews.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 18: 14
          0
          Quote: nvv
          besides Jew. Forgive me, normal Jews.

          Do not confuse normal Jews (I respect them!) With Jews. A Jew is a normal nation; Jews are a profession selling sin. In any nation of Jews, darkness (read the names of sinners on the first pages of publications!).
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        1. Day 11
          Day 11 15 May 2014 17: 16
          +1
          No, it’s not easy
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 18: 28
            0
            Quote: Den 11
            not easy, hawaii

            not_space_forgive - ...
            When the Tsarevich wrote a combination of THREE letters, Nikolai Alexandrovich (the first) called N.E. Zhukovsky, the tutor of the heir, to account. However, the mentor turned out: "Your Imperial Majesty, this is just the declension of the verbs:" forge-forge "," pop-sui "," fuck-hoo. "So, in your opinion," havay (eat, eat), but should be in Little Russian "hovaysya" (hide!). Check - do not "fly in"!
  • Arkan
    Arkan 15 May 2014 14: 14
    0
    The Donetsk Republic urgently needs to begin the formation of statehood. The Russian Federation will not stand aside, but it is difficult to deal with an amorphous entity, without clear power, legislative and other state structures. When this process is completed, it will already be possible to conduct a dialogue at the interstate level.
  • suharev-52
    suharev-52 15 May 2014 14: 26
    +1
    Article plus. But not all problems are voiced, because listing everything would take too much time. The main thing: took up the tug - do not say that not a dozen. Sincerely.
  • mackonya
    mackonya 15 May 2014 14: 47
    0
    I think it is necessary to persuade one oligarch Rinat Akhmetov to his side under the threat of nationalization, after all, it is his property that is most of all in Donetsk and Lugansk.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 15 May 2014 14: 55
      +1
      Yeah. And in Russia!
  • Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 15 May 2014 14: 54
    +2
    Let experience draw from the past. The formation of the young USSR.
  • Mhpv
    Mhpv 15 May 2014 15: 35
    +1
    The most important factor in hostilities will be that very soon there will be a shortage of fuel and lubricants in the republic. First, it will disappear from citizens, then it will become a deficit for business. Whoever has supplies of gasoline and diesel fuel will win a tactical advantage in a military conflict.

    This is precisely where the advantage is on the side of the LPR and DPR, since in Lisichansk, Luhansk region, the refinery belongs to Rosneft and is ready to launch after reconstruction, the pipeline also runs from Samara, so there is no need to transport oil.
  • Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 15 May 2014 16: 20
    +1
    And poison Benya poison is very humane

    Well, why did it directly poison, he could very well die from homesickness like the well-known Boris Abramovich in London. I remember that BAB also behaved impudently and untied, it would be nice to Okolomoykin to refresh the memory of the biography of his countryman (I mean, of course, Berezovsky).
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 18: 36
      0
      Quote: Alekseir162
      Okolomoykin

      Pomoykinu.
  • chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 15 May 2014 17: 55
    0
    I want to wish the young Donetsk Republic Good Health! Confident growth! Not to fight off far from the Big Brother "brother saw, brother lived, brother x ... put everything on it." And when you mature, the fangs will get stronger, then they will not break in "solitary swimming". He himself was young - green when he wore epaulettes. It was so that they threw it "too far" from the authorities. The commander said so: While on a business trip - to yourself and your people instead of God. If something is not clear with the "clients", send it to .... And then, after thinking, act. And nothing is so good - it turned out to be a good recipe!
  • fly fishing
    fly fishing 15 May 2014 18: 09
    0
    But can we exchange DAM for Tsarev ?!
    It would be a great prime! I would definitely vote for Tsarev !!!
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 15 May 2014 18: 18
      0
      Again Tsarev. What are you fixated on? I, for example, like Vitrenko. I really need to drag her to Ukraine in the beginning. I stayed in Moscow. She pushed it right, let it prove in practice
  • flsdglgzb
    flsdglgzb 15 May 2014 19: 03
    0
    Why was the video removed as Tsareva was threatened with reprisal by the multi-millionaire Jew Benya? He promised to hang his family.
  • ty60
    ty60 15 May 2014 19: 09
    +1
    one of the main steps is the re-registration of production by owners to the territory of Donetsk. Who refused, nationalized. Organizing your own bank or using the existing branches of Sberbank for the first time. All contracts with Russia are for direct settlements. Reassign border guards in the republic and customs. All receipts should be left with self. Introduce a fixed tax on the arrangement of management structures, upgrade the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, staffing with volunteers. Form your own Armed Forces from volunteers, organize training for those who did not serve. Confiscate all army equipment to your advantage. Including storage facilities. Full control over fuel and media and mass media Full control over health facilities and drug supply.
  • Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 15 May 2014 19: 56
    -1
    The simplest and most effective recipe for the Kremlin: in the west of the Ukrainians, Kadyrov's fighters are acting without any hint of pity for the local and bordering population from the west when establishing a no-fly zone by the Russian air defense forces, in Kiev, special forces block and destroy all pro-Western (Yankovsky) elements with public hanging especially zealous, motorized riflemen from the east, with the support of the local population, are finishing the elimination of the mercenaries of the local oligarchy, from the so-called Ukraine there are Westerners who, after Kadyrov's departure, have not given peace to pshek and other evil spirits for many years, and Russia has its own natural borders with the possibility of their further expansion. And all this without "road maps and other casuistry"
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 15 May 2014 20: 04
      +1
      Once again, why are the Chechens inside the SLAVIC conflict? We have all kinds of NATO evil on our borders --- This is where Ramzan should be and defend the borders of the EMPIRE under construction!
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 15 May 2014 21: 34
        +1
        Hi Denis!

        Quote: Den 11
        Once again, why are the Chechens inside the SLAVIC conflict? We have all kinds of NATO evil on our borders --- This is where Ramzan should be and defend the borders of the EMPIRE under construction!


        Very well said, Denis. But "Ramzan", de facto, is not controlled by the "Kremlin". The "Kremlin" is holding back "Ramzan" with a financial and political component. "Ramzan" will not lay its heads on the outer borders.
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 15 May 2014 21: 49
          0
          Wow, Sasha! I’m completely lost somewhere. Is everything okay with you?
  • ryadovoi
    ryadovoi 15 May 2014 20: 46
    0
    This is unlikely to end soon. And the west will play its own card of pressure on Russia. In any case, we will not be lost, but it will not be easy for them without our gas. Donbas will continue to establish its borders and independence. One way or another, Russia will not remain indifferent to these events. Down with the junta and impostors !!!
  • bulvas
    bulvas 15 May 2014 22: 19
    +1
    The young republic has someone to rely on in the difficult task of becoming:


    Watch Wikipedia on Strelkov Igor Ivanovich