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Sergey Lukyanenko: not so simple

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Sergey Lukyanenko: not so simple



By the way.
My position on the Ukrainian territories, the coup, the junta, the Crimea and Russia is known to all.
But - not so simple.
And I think that residents of the Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, as well as other Ukrainian territories, should know something ...

Recently, a friend went to the Crimea. And here he goes there by taxi. Sat down, straps on. The driver is a cheerful good guy, a Crimean, laughing: "Hey! What are you doing, who needs it?" A friend is silent. The driver is driving ... and suddenly he turns a brick through the oncoming lane! It’s already a friend’s turn to yell: "Hey! What are you doing!" "We can!" - fun answers driver. “No, it is possible in the Ukrainian territories,” a friend replies. "And now you are in Russia. And so it is impossible."

That's what I'm saying. Russia is not Ukraine. And when, according to Ukrainian TV, they continuously shout that there is chaos in Russia, lawlessness, dirty toilets and devastation at every step - this is not entirely true. And sometimes it's not at all true.

The fact is that even though we are not Germany and Switzerland (you know, yes, thank God, with all due respect to these worthy countries), but we have an order of magnitude :) more than on Ukrainian territory. And this concerns not the possibility of yelling obscenely at Putin or organizing anti-power media and demonstrations. With this shit, just, we have complete liberalism.

But cruel tyranny begins in other things.

In the purchase of alcohol at night (yes, yes! You can not when you wanted!). In the use of "light drugs" (you will laugh, but the carelessness with which in the Ukrainian territories they smoke weed and lick the synthetics in Russia is not possible. We have people who want to add a fool to nykat). In the payment of taxes (oh, we did not reach American standards, but ...) In the possibility of crying with impunity about the need to destroy this or that group of the population. In need to wear your seat and not drive drunk (oh, you know, traffic cops are so lute, and to bribe them this way IS EXPENSIVE - that people wear out, don’t drink and follow the rules). We can not go out and arrange Maidan. True true! You do not lie ,'re coming out, the media, this freedom in Russia will not. If you decide to set a hundred tires on the square and poorat something - a severe riot police will come and politely nastuet you on the head. After that, they impose fines on 15 days.

In short, we are Russia, yes. This is a fact and this is a bang. But we are in so many things much more Europe than you are accustomed to in the Ukrainian territory and what ukrostan could ever become.

And it will be correct if you take this into account. Little Russian freemen and a party, praised by Babel and Paustovsky, Bulgakov and Kataev, all these okolobanditsky Odessa quirks, all this endless “Wedding in Malinovka”, red-white-green robbing and ruining each other and the population is not with us. This is not for us. BTRs do not roll through the streets of our cities, shooting around. The economy is not falling apart, under the soothing tales of hundreds of billions of irrevocable loans that the US and Europe will now bring on a platter.

And if you are 17 years old, and the smell of burning rubber pleasantly tickles your nostrils, a bit with nails seems to be the best solution to problems, parents are fools, they have no children, and the mini-Fuhrer who patted the shoulder is a carrier of absolute truth — then you are in Ukrainian territories. On the wild lands. It seems that there will be plenty to kill and die young.

And we need to live and work. The charm of this lesson is not clear if you are only 17-20 years old, or if you are a well-fed scribe (s) in an occupational dialect, or if you are a small oligarch with a candle or oil refinery, but a spare one historical citizenship in your pocket.

But living is still interesting and partly eliminates the need to wear seat belts and not inhale burnt tires.
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  1. Sergg
    Sergg 15 May 2014 07: 32
    -40%
    The author needs to understand one more important thing, that in Russia and Ukraine people are very different. And do not scratch everyone with one comb.
    1. Cormorants
      Cormorants 15 May 2014 07: 40
      -23%
      I agree! +
      1. Canep
        Canep 15 May 2014 08: 48
        +23
        The author is right in everything! Traffic rules are written in blood and must be respected and followed. Ordinary people are the same in Russia and in Ukraine. In Kazakhstan, a fine for exceeding 10 km / h, double continuous crossing, etc. - 18500 tenge for the first time ($ 100), and a divorce from the traffic police is not less than 3000 tenge (600 rubles or $ 20). The lawlessness that is happening as a result of the lawlessness in the minds of the Ukrainians, whom he was inspired in recent decades.
        By the way, Lukyanenko from Kazakhstan and the first works were written in Almaty, and the events of some are localized in this city. I used to read his works, I was looking forward to new ones, now I really have no time, I work at two works. It is good that Lukyanenko is not on the side of the traitor Makarevich, and the half-traitor Shevchuk.
      2. Sergg
        Sergg 15 May 2014 09: 18
        -3
        I agree! +


        People are different not because they live in different countries, but because they have different upbringing and level of education.
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      5. Cormorants
        Cormorants 15 May 2014 14: 10
        +1
        You’re minus what, you didn’t understand the position and the minutes of sculpting.
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    3. muginov2015
      muginov2015 15 May 2014 07: 56
      +9
      That’s for sure, we also have special people who can bang in Moscow the kazakaz lambada on Red Square
      1. dirty trick
        dirty trick 15 May 2014 08: 47
        0
        Quote: muginov2015
        That’s for sure, we also have special people who can bang in Moscow the kazakaz lambada on Red Square

        in confirmation of your words:
    4. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 15 May 2014 08: 02
      +8
      Quote: Sergg
      And do not scratch everyone with one comb.

      What does it mean "not to scratch with one comb"? One can be slightly disturbed, because they are not quite like that? I will tell you a terrible thing, but people are different even in the Belgorod region and in Khakassia.
      1. Jurkovs
        Jurkovs 15 May 2014 08: 35
        +2
        I’ve just traveled from Russia to Khakassia. Russians are the same everywhere, and Khakasses are a very peaceful working people, only they have no immunity to alcohol.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 14: 48
          0
          Quote: Jurkovs
          Russians are the same everywhere, and Khakasses are a very peaceful working people, only they have no immunity to alcohol.

          There was a saying (before Gorbachev): "you can't sing-do not drink! "For" youngsters "I explain: it is" pеbe ".
      2. Sergg
        Sergg 15 May 2014 08: 35
        -6
        What does it mean "not to scratch with one comb"? One can be slightly disturbed, because they are not quite like that? I will tell you a terrible thing, but people are different even in the Belgorod region and in Khakassia.


        You are terribly observant, this is not terrible news, this is your incomplete education, sir. People are different even on the same street. I’m only talking about the fact that it’s not necessary to generalize that they are Ukrainians, Crimeans are like that, and Russians are like that. Therefore, I say that it is not necessary to scratch all with one comb.
        Uh, okay, weirdo?
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 15 May 2014 08: 59
          +3
          Quote: Sergg
          this is your incomplete education

          No need to shift their complexes to others.
          Quote: Sergg
          Uh, okay, weirdo?

          For such things you can get a turnip
          1. Sergg
            Sergg 15 May 2014 09: 10
            -2
            Quote: Sergg
            Uh, okay, weirdo?
            For such things you can get a turnip


            I understand you, sofa cowboy: the inferiority complex is most easily spilled onto the Internet. I do not blame you, everyone has their own weaknesses. Drink a seagull, calm down, take a Russian language textbook and learn the mat.chast, crank.
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 15 May 2014 09: 16
              +2
              Quote: Sergg
              take a Russian language textbook

              Quote: Sergg
              inferiority complex is easiest splash out to internet pages.

              laughing
    5. Good cat
      Good cat 15 May 2014 08: 09
      +1
      Almost the same people, lived here and there, no need to invent
    6. andj61
      andj61 15 May 2014 08: 34
      +8
      People are just the same! And we had a freemen, and we had a mess. But over time, everyone realized that it’s IMPOSSIBLE to live like that, that a mess is our weakness, and under Putin, this mess began to be quietly removed. We are still at the very beginning of the journey. We are not all equal before the law, there are equal and more equal, we are also full of corruption, and theft is beyond measure. And we have a lot of scumbags - we all know all this. However, in comparison with Ukraine, we have a complete order.
      My comrade from Kharkov recently, six months ago, had to communicate with Belgorod customs officers on a not very straightforward (for him reason). He was simply amazed at how professionally, quickly and with sympathy his question was resolved. Then he said that it was like in a movie about excellent American police officers. And this is about our customs officers, whom only the lazy do not scold!
      Our country is becoming an example for the countries of the former Union. This is a reason for pride!
    7. Colorman
      Colorman 15 May 2014 08: 45
      +1
      The author writes not about people, but about attitudes toward laws.
      In Russia, they are treated somewhat more respectfully (due to high fines, exorbitant bribes and evil cops, and not because we are so right).
    8. jura61
      jura61 15 May 2014 08: 46
      +1
      I would say that people are different everywhere!
    9. Sergg
      Sergg 15 May 2014 09: 22
      +2
      The author needs to understand one more important thing, that in Russia and Ukraine people are very different. And do not scratch everyone with one comb.


      People must be judged first of all by conscience. It cannot be generalized that Ukrainians are all like that, and Russians are like that. Among both Ukrainians and Russians there are villains, and there are honest people, probably everyone will agree with this.
      1. andj61
        andj61 15 May 2014 10: 35
        +1
        Quote: Sergg
        Among both Ukrainians and Russians there are villains, and there are honest people, probably everyone will agree with this.

        We cannot but agree with these! Although we, Ukrainians, especially eastern ones, are one nation. The states at the time - we are different.
      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 14: 51
        0
        Quote: Sergg
        Among both Ukrainians and Russians there are villains,

        Stopudovo! I’ll add from myself: among all nations and nationalities .. (hereinafter). Only here in the ruling elite for some reason, negative selection?
    10. Validator
      Validator 15 May 2014 12: 12
      0
      Quote: Sergg
      The author needs to understand one more important thing, that in Russia and Ukraine people are very different. And do not scratch everyone with one comb.

      Our people are about the same. It’s just that the reconstruction of the state began already 14 years ago, and this bears fruit, which the author described. But on the outskirts, everything will not come to that. Maybe Novorossia can quickly pull up to our standards on a common patriotic upsurge and a new idea of ​​the Russian World
  2. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 15 May 2014 07: 32
    +9
    Yes, somehow there is no desire to inhale the smoke from the tires.
  3. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 07: 34
    -33%
    In the purchase of alcohol at night (yes, yes! You can’t do it when you want it!)
    You call a taxi at 3 o’clock in the morning, you go to a convenience store, where they sell exclusively liquor and all related items and buy calmly. Everybody knows about such shops, authorities, cops, but they work quietly.
    The author sees an inveterate teetotaler.
    . It’s necessary to fasten your seat belt and not to drive drunk (oh, you know, traffic cops are so fierce, and bribing them now SO expensive - that people fasten, don’t drink and abide by the rules
    laughing Be sure to buckle up when we approach the traffic police post winked
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 07: 40
      -5
      Oh, minus the arrivals. Seen from the owner of a convenience store, worries about business laughing
      1. sergey72
        sergey72 15 May 2014 07: 43
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        , minus an arrival. To see from the owner of a convenience store, worries about business

        Don’t worry, Alexander! Here is + from the non-drinker! laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 07: 50
          +1
          Quote: sergey72
          Here is + from the non-drinker!

          Sergey, yes, I’m not at all frustrated by the minus, just the feeling that I deceived someone in something. Everyone knows that this is so, but I cast a shadow on someone’s wattle fence bully
          1. Dangerous
            Dangerous 15 May 2014 08: 06
            +11
            If not deceived, then mislead for sure. Since normal alcohol in stores after 23 is not sold. Maybe you can buy it in some kind of basement or kiosk, but it's 90% surrogate and de * d'mo. You can, however, even go to the night bar, but there you will buy a bottle at the appropriate price. And as for the belts - in most modern cars there is a signaling that squeaks at a speed above 20 km / h, so if you want it, you don’t want to fasten it if you don’t want to listen to it
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 18
              -5
              Quote: Dangerous
              . Since normal alcohol in stores after 23 is not sold.

              It’s good to tryndet, I personally went to the store at three nights and calmly bought good vodka. That's what to lie if everyone knows that night shops are everywhere and sell vodka to the impudent one. Who do you want to fool around here?
              1. Dangerous
                Dangerous 15 May 2014 08: 20
                +5
                Regarding tryndet - choose expressions. I don’t know where you live, but in your city no shops sell vodka after 23. And do not fool here members of the forum
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 15 May 2014 08: 29
                  +4
                  Men do not break spears. The Internet is to help us all laughingThe first on Google and Yandex to drop links to Alkoprofi, a food and alcohol delivery service from Fasteda restaurants, a food and alcohol delivery service (St. Petersburg), elite alcohol sales sites, and a link to the Alkozazhigalka website. Almost all other links are sites that redirect requests to these portals, or thematic forums.

                  “Call after 21, they will place your order and deliver it within 30 minutes or hours to any address. Delivery cost is included in the price of alcoholic beverages, ”the Agent 0,5 company told Gazeta.Ru, whose phone number is not given by the search engine, the company puts up ads in Moscow.

                  A bottle of premium Beluga vodka with a volume of 0,7 liters will cost 1690 rubles there, Russian Standard and Absolute will cost 990 rubles and 1190 rubles, respectively. There are cognacs available - Martel, Hennessey and "Ararat", also with a volume of 0,7 liters. There is no minimum order quantity, you can buy 1 bottle, this does not affect the delivery time. When asked about the number of cars in the service they answered: “Enough.”

                  Round-the-clock delivery of strong alcohol is actually also carried out by companies offering to buy souvenir lighters or join a club whose members receive alcoholic gifts.
                  1. Dangerous
                    Dangerous 15 May 2014 08: 32
                    +2
                    The fact of the matter is that alcohol can be bought in bars / restaurants for a round sum (or, as in this example, through the delivery service) or from the floor of a surrogate. But just plain alcohol is not allowed in stores, as they don’t sell it after 23 hours
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 47
                      0
                      Throw an address for you, where can you calmly buy vodka?
                      1. ssergn
                        ssergn 15 May 2014 11: 33
                        +1
                        Better throw it at the police and Rospotrebnadzor, do a good deed. And buying yourself, you create demand.
                        I already wrote above - it's like with drugs, casinos, prostitution, etc.
                  2. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 45
                    -2
                    Quote: Alex 241
                    Men do not break spears.

                    Hey hello! Yes, they do not drink, and even ideological. Do not go against the party. Pure and telomi spirit not knowing sin. Such angels of the law in words laughing
                    1. Egen
                      Egen 15 May 2014 09: 13
                      +2
                      That's it, because of what the fuss :)) A normal person should have a supply at home, in the garage and at work (well, what if someone will need to go) :)
                      And what _good_ alcohol is not sold - so it depends on what is considered bad :) "Louis 13" for example, in our stores they do not sell at all, but only in a restaurant, but you will not catch up with Louis 13 :)), with good alcohol a meeting is planned in advance in good company and better in a restaurant :))
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                  5. pensioner
                    pensioner 15 May 2014 11: 42
                    0
                    Quote: Alex 241
                    A bottle of premium Beluga vodka with a volume of 0,7 liters will cost 1690 rubles there, Russian Standard and Absolute will cost 990 rubles and 1190 rubles, respectively. There are cognacs available - Martel, Hennessey and "Ararat", also with a volume of 0,7 liters.

                    And what for ?????? At home, there should always be a supply of affordable drinks. For example, I’ve easily drunk a group of comrades who suddenly appeared on the threshold after 23-00. If only the number of this group did not exceed 10 people ... In this case, too, of course, I would give a drink, but you just have to reduce the dose. As a result, let someone stay on his feet .... Sasha, hello! hi
                    1. 11111mail.ru
                      11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 14: 55
                      0
                      Quote: retired
                      If only the number of this group did not exceed 10 people ... In this case, too, of course, I’ll give a drink

                      The Nazarene did better: with five loaves of bread ...
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 35
                  -6
                  Quote: Dangerous
                  Regarding tryndet - choose expressions

                  Then on a simple-Stop lying!
                  Quote: Dangerous
                  And do not fool here members of the forum

                  You're lying here.
                  1. Dangerous
                    Dangerous 15 May 2014 08: 58
                    +3
                    Yes, you are unypically cool, knock your fingers on the keyboard and compose fables. I don’t need the address, I don’t buy singed vodka and I don’t know gangster trails in special shops and I’m not eager.
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 09: 28
                      -4
                      Quote: Dangerous
                      . I don’t need the address, I don’t buy singed vodka and I don’t know gangster trails in special shops and I’m not eager.

                      Sit I'll open it myself fool
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                3. podpolkovnik
                  15 May 2014 09: 13
                  +1
                  Quote: Dangerous
                  Regarding tryndet - choose expressions. I don’t know where you live, but in your city no shops sell vodka after 23. And do not fool here members of the forum

                  Similarly, I agree.
                  That's just always been against this ban.
                  Once again, leaving the house, if necessary, is simply laziness.
                  But there are times when you sit up for a long time, especially when old friends, colleagues, those who have not been seen for a long time, come to visit us ... You might think - to go or not to go.
                  We have to buy in much larger quantities in advance, thereby clearly provoking, and once again emphasizing that a lot - does not happen ...
                  1. 11111mail.ru
                    11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 14: 57
                    0
                    Quote: podpolkovnik
                    and emphasizing once again that much does not happen ...

                    Here, here, as in the anecdote: ... "imagine, they sent at the" urk for the bubble, so he brought the BUBBLE! "
              2. Ustas
                Ustas 15 May 2014 12: 43
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Good tryndet, he personally went to the store at three nights and calmly bought good vodka.
                night shops operate everywhere and sell vodka impudently. Who do you want to fool here-yourself?

                Because they sell, because they buy.
                So you like this state of affairs. If you didn’t like it, then the least you could do is not buy. And more, it is to sue the seller.
          2. winkiller
            winkiller 15 May 2014 08: 18
            +15
            Minus, to you Alexander, not at all for "Advertising" of night shops and not for lack of fastening. I can’t even explain right away ... Apparently, I am already forming a national awareness or something else - that feeling that opposes this "circumvention" of some laws. And I do not argue there is a lot of moronic in our legislation. But against those who, let them not hait, let only ridicule, normal - there is already an internal contradiction. I wear my seatbelt, and the video recorders, which are now the sea, taught me this, especially when children fly out or ride on a slon - it's scary. And it's good that an 18 year old after drinking beer will not be able to catch up and being already in the trash of a piss in my entrance. That will not prevent a normal guy from walking to a restaurant and having a drink with friends there, because he can already earn money so as not to run to the "grandmother" for a bottle of palette.

            And even if "heroes" will call me a lousy intellectual, I will not be offended, and maybe I will be glad. lol
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 42
              0
              Quote: winkiller
              Apparently, I already have a national awareness or something else - that feeling that resists this kind of "circumvention" of some laws

              It’s a normal move, some sell vodka at night, and cons to me. You have an interesting self-consciousness. It turns out that they minus me because they raised the topic that we do not obey the laws and you can calmly buy vodara wassat
              Quote: winkiller
              And it’s good that an 18-year-old drinking beer can’t catch up, and being already in the trash of the Ossass in my porch

              Do not want to go, call and they will bring everything to you or wink VLADIVOSTOK, April 20, ZRPRESS. Everyone knows that in Vladivostok, as well as throughout the country, a law is in force prohibiting the sale of alcohol at night. However, entrepreneurs are surprisingly inventive.

              For example, in Vladivostok you can buy alcohol using the services of specialized companies for the night delivery of alcohol, ordering a lighter from them. At the same time, the drink you need will become a “gift” for the order.

              And the other day, the famous V-Laser hypermarket, located at Dalpress, transferred its Ostrovok cafe to a round-the-clock operation. Yes, how I translated! Now here you can also around the clock buy alcohol of all stripes at prices ... of a store. Everything is in the assortment - wine, champagne, vermouth, vodka, cognac, whiskey - and the prices are really not restaurant

              So whom did I deceive in what? But those who say that you cannot buy frankly lie without blushing.
              1. winkiller
                winkiller 15 May 2014 11: 17
                0
                Who seeks will always find! All this (shops) will not work if there is no demand. And the culture of wine consumption in our country is unfortunately low and it is formed just at a young age. And who will our youth learn from? Only at adults and if we will discuss where to buy - even just discuss !!! For them, an opinion will be formed that this is normal and that is how everyone does it.

                PS: I look at my children, now the herd instinct in schools is very strong. The personality is not supported - do as everyone !!!
                1. 11111mail.ru
                  11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 15: 02
                  0
                  Quote: winkiller
                  Who seeks will always find! All this will not work

                  I support! With advice: after 19-00 and until 11-00 the next day _ no! And it was better and more honest than with the "shit" colors!
            2. dmb
              dmb 15 May 2014 08: 43
              -3
              Dear Sergey, I usually oppose Romanov, but in this case I support him. After all, Lukyanenko, swollen with pride, wrote that Ukraine has it, but we do not have it. It is not true. Yes, and not enough. And national identity consists not only in singing the praises of birches and balalaikas, but also in getting the society to get rid of what you write about. The latter is much more difficult to do (including in words), and therefore Lukyanenko decided not to bother himself, and simply wrote that this was not. It's too small for an "engineer of human souls".
              1. winkiller
                winkiller 15 May 2014 11: 19
                0
                and I usually don’t enter into discussions at all, but here I’ve hooked ... hi
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          4. zao74
            zao74 15 May 2014 08: 54
            +3
            And minus from me because you fasten only before fasting ... You don’t take care of your life.
      2. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn 15 May 2014 07: 44
        +21
        I know about this possibility. But this is not very correct. A citizen must comply with the laws of his state, and not look for ways to circumvent them. I do not buy beer or vodka after 9-00 or until 11-00. Although not a teetotaler. Similarly, you can violate the rules of the road if the traffic police do not see. A self-respecting person does not do this. The minus is not mine.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 04
          +1
          Quote: Riperbahn
          But this is not very correct. A citizen must comply with the laws of his state, and not look for ways to circumvent them.

          In this case, you should not write. That in Russia they don’t do this. Very often hi
          Quote: Riperbahn
          The minus is not mine.

          I know.
        2. Predator
          Predator 15 May 2014 08: 08
          0
          But what about the famous laws for that and adopted to violate them. If you can’t, but really want, then you can! (Joke) fellow
      3. igor_m_p
        igor_m_p 15 May 2014 08: 15
        +10
        Let's just say that the severity (and sometimes stupidity) of Russian laws is offset by the non-enforcement. I don’t know how in your area, but in Petropavlovsk it’s quite problematic to buy alcohol in the store at night. Since the release of the relevant laws, most of the convenience stores have ceased to be such. True, no one bothers to drop into a bar, cafe, restaurant and buy everything there on completely legal grounds. But in a regular store, even familiar sellers often refuse to sell alcohol.
        About alcohol while driving. In the mid-nineties, one of my friends rolled past the traffic police posts with a can of beer in his hand, periodically taking a sip from it. Over the past five years, five of the few acquaintances who fell for a blue could not get away. The people pay off practically from anything, but those who flew blue and white do not basically let go and are always given to the maximum in court. Yes, some brave comrades ride a hop, but those of my friends who have allowed themselves this do not allow it. Who sits without rights, who has already taken away the rights, but they don’t want a repeat.
        With our straps, too, somehow the vast majority of the people try not to run into, as well as with the passage of pedestrians on the zebra, especially at the crossroads they hung cameras that record violations of the rules of the intersection, pedestrians not allowed, stopping behind the stop line and the like.
        So much depends on the region.
        Yes, I didn’t set a minus :)
        1. AndreyS
          AndreyS 15 May 2014 08: 42
          +6
          I will support you! It all depends on the region! In my city, these cameras were hung up the same immeasurably, and during the Olympics, the Olympic stripes were generally introduced, access to which cost 5000 rubles (for each camera), so some, especially "cool" drivers, waving their hands rode (traffic police did not stop anyone, only the most arrogant when driving along the intersection), and then wept, as one friend complained to me - I received fines for 180 rubles !!!!!!!!!!!! And to my objection that there was no need to go to Olympus. stripes - well, who thought that they really work, but I needed it urgently !!!!!! (while in the place where he needed to go every 000 minutes free trains !!!!!!!!!)
          By the way, many are still afraid to ride on those lanes that were Olympic.
          1. igor_m_p
            igor_m_p 15 May 2014 08: 58
            +1
            Quote: AndreyS
            and then wept, as a friend complained to me - I received fines for 180 000 p. !!!!!!!!!!!!


            Well, here, as they say, every evil doctor himself wassat
      4. andj61
        andj61 15 May 2014 08: 40
        +3
        No, just the irony of Lukyanenko multiplied by the irony of Romanov - this is already too much. But nothing happens, it’s not all the same time to get the pluses. Moreover, the owner of the night store should not worry - he sells a product that does not need advertising!
      5. Ustas
        Ustas 15 May 2014 12: 37
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Oh, minus the arrivals. Seen from the owner of a convenience store, worries about business

        Well no. It’s a minus from me, because I fasten the belt regardless of whether there is a traffic cop or not, as well as cars I don’t throw wrappers from the window, I pay taxes on time and so on and so forth, which is called culture.
    2. KOH
      KOH 15 May 2014 07: 44
      +8
      Personally, I fasten my seat belt and don’t drink at all, so don’t answer for everyone ... I don’t put a minus either.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 07: 47
        0
        Quote: CON
        Personally, I buckle up and don’t drink at all, so don’t answer for everyone ...

        If you notice, then I was responsible for myself, and not for you or anyone else.
        The bottom line is that he wrote how it really is and whoever will say that it is not, to put it mildly, not a very honest person hi
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 15 May 2014 07: 56
          +10
          He taught life to fasten himself in a car, traveled in the same car with all sorts of drivers, beaten because of them, visited the cuvette because of them, suddenly found himself in the oncoming lane in closed corners, etc. Yes, and his own car with airbags, so there is no desire to suffer from them more than from an accident. And about sobriety as the norm of life, as they say, if it was solid - we would gnaw at it, but without fanaticism, and we must sleep at night, and not look for booze.
          1. igor_m_p
            igor_m_p 15 May 2014 08: 18
            +4
            Since I started off-road tourism, I fasten my seatbelt even in the forest on the roads wassat
            Well ... almost always repeat
        2. KOH
          KOH 15 May 2014 08: 06
          +3
          We buckle up, I buckle up, pun, maybe I didn’t understand something, excuse me, being polite people ... repeat
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 15 May 2014 08: 04
        +5
        Quote: CON
        Personally, I buckle up and don’t drink at all, so don’t answer for everyone.


        And I used to when the car inspector opened the door fell on the asphalt, and it was at night when they were driving for vodka. It’s a shame to remember, but what was it was
        1. KOH
          KOH 15 May 2014 08: 13
          +2
          Well, no consequences! God forbid you no longer get into such situations ... I just suggested to myself that a car is a means of increased danger ... well, for example, when you climb into some kind of attraction, fasten your seat belt ...
        2. mamont5
          mamont5 15 May 2014 08: 15
          +5
          Quote: Vadivak
          And I used to when the car inspector opened the door fell on the asphalt, and it was at night when they were driving for vodka. It’s a shame to remember, but what was it was


          This is bad and does not color you.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 19
            -6
            Quote: mamont5

            This is bad and does not color you.

            Are you without sin?
    3. Good cat
      Good cat 15 May 2014 08: 12
      +5
      I don’t know Alexander, maybe you’re doing so, we have 99% fastened, as 500 stafs have entered so everything together and fastened, and now we’re used to
      1. KOH
        KOH 15 May 2014 08: 18
        +2
        And besides, the piskulka will get it ... laughing
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 15 May 2014 08: 20
        +4
        Quote: Good cat
        so everyone was united and fastened, and now they’re used to

        And now unfastened, even unusual.
        1. winkiller
          winkiller 15 May 2014 08: 29
          +5
          But when you come to a small town, you take a taxi, and you reach for your belt, and the taxi driver tells you "you don't have to wear your seat belt." And you know, it used to be cool, but now you look at him like an idiot and buckle up. And you look at their faces surprised and offended - how can we, after all, have a service for you for your money. :)
          1. podpolkovnik
            15 May 2014 09: 18
            0
            Quote: winkiller
            But when you come to a small town, you take a taxi, and you reach for your belt, and the taxi driver tells you "you don't have to wear your seat belt." And you know, it used to be cool, but now you look at him like an idiot and buckle up. And you look at their faces surprised and offended - how can we, after all, have a service for you for your money. :)

            Not in all small cities.
            For example, when I come to my father, the very first taxi driver stubbornly and persistently advises to buckle up if there is no extra money for fines.
          2. badandrew
            badandrew 15 May 2014 10: 33
            0
            Once I fastened my seat belt in a traffic police car, then I was tired of cleaning the down jacket from a long-term layer of dirt on my belt.
    4. Echelon
      Echelon 15 May 2014 08: 27
      +5
      It all depends on who you consider yourself to be. If you respect your country, the Laws of your State, why not follow them? Fastening in a car with a seat belt is not so bad. As a last resort, you do not need to scrape a strapped one from the asphalt when it flies out through the windshield in a collision (I've seen this personally). Not buying alcohol after 22 pm? There is nothing simpler, I have a bottle of vodka on duty, a couple of bottles of rum (well, I love this drink), a few bottles of Crimean port and a couple of bottles of Abrau-Durso champagne, I don’t drink beer in principle, because the most shameless brewers in our country. Such a set is enough to receive guests and go into a binge winked . It all depends on the mentality of the person. Of course, I do not argue, there are people who can not sit at home calmly if a bottle of vodka is bored lonely in the freezer, but this is already particular.

      I always believed and consider that observing the norms of the Laws is more a matter of morality than fearing these laws, each one decides for himself what to do and how to act, cross the continuous marking line or drive extra 100-200 meters to the turning point. Of course, if you want to tickle your nerves and get adrenaline, then you can fly into the red light and drive drunk while driving, only a reasonable person will find a way to get the thrill. There are different ways to do this, I personally try to use skydiving, strike-ball, go-karting and diving.

      If we call ourselves civilized people, then, probably, it’s worth behaving like people, and not like Neanderthals and observing elementary norms of ethics and laws is not a necessity, but a norm for a civilized society.
      1. podpolkovnik
        15 May 2014 09: 30
        0
        Withdrew from the language .... only he wanted to write something similar.
        Few of those present did not admire the actions of polite people in the Crimea.
        It is not necessary to become like those who watered and watered their mud until now.
        So let our form of politeness be compliance with elementary ethics and laws. This is not a necessity, but the norm for a civilized society. IMHO, this article is about this.
        Why settle a dispute about where it is possible and where it is impossible, how it is possible and how it is impossible.
        We all somewhere, sometime, sometime, someday violate. Who is without sin - let the first throw a stone at me.
        But it is unclear why tell everyone about this?
        Once again to share your ignorance?
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    6. Aikusun
      Aikusun 15 May 2014 08: 44
      +3
      Apparently this is what you and your friends are doing, I personally buckle up all my friends too, and no one drinks, if necessary. Everywhere there are people willing to break the law. But now it seems to me in Russia to become much better with this.
    7. khas2
      khas2 15 May 2014 09: 57
      0
      In Kazakhstan, of course, the "chosen ones" can do anything, but for the rest of the homosapiens the fines are just draconian !!! (compared to Russian). And that's why we have, yes: they fasten their seat belts, let pedestrians pass, turn on the headlights, etc.
    8. ssergn
      ssergn 15 May 2014 11: 29
      +1
      Well, then yes, if you want, you can buy drugs at night or in the afternoon. Only this does not negate the fact that in the Russian Federation it is really prohibited and punishable. And underground casinos regularly pop up and are covered by the police.

      The main problem is the inevitability of punishment. And if a society is confident in inevitability, it is more willing to comply with laws. As an example, compliance with traffic rules in large cities and, conversely, in rural areas. I think no one will argue.
      Further, earlier it was really quite easy to smear a person for a booze. Now - this is a problem, and they punish for drinking at times more often. Example- recently, in Ekat, traffic police called up the head of the GUVD security service. Officer flooded with service.
      Another five kopecks, if you often travel to the intercity, you probably noticed that when there is continuous marking, the entire column puffs behind a slow boat and you do not often see an idiot who dares to overtake, which can not be said about the times of 10 years ago.
    9. tomket
      tomket 15 May 2014 11: 42
      0
      We are fastened not because we approach the post of GAI, but because the buzzer pierces the whole head with a squeak. In my opinion, the most effective way to make people fasten their clothes. Question, Lukyanenko writes articles on this site or is it a repost?
      1. podpolkovnik
        15 May 2014 12: 26
        0
        This is a repost from LJ.
  4. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 07: 35
    +8
    And we need to live and work. Author Sergey Lukyanenko

    I remember the construction brigade slogan of the 70s (40 years ago) that: "You can't forbid living beautifully and working a lot!" The author is right. Plus article.
  5. sergey72
    sergey72 15 May 2014 07: 36
    +11
    And if you are 17 years old, and the smell of burning rubber pleasantly tickles your nostrils, a bit with nails seems to be the best solution to problems, parents are fools, they have no children, and the mini-Fuhrer who patted the shoulder is a carrier of absolute truth — then you are in Ukrainian territories. On the wild lands. It seems that there will be plenty to kill and die young.

    Very accurately said ...
  6. regdan
    regdan 15 May 2014 07: 43
    +3
    If you decide to burn hundreds of tires on the square and yell something, a stern riot police will come and politely tapping your head. Then fines will be punished and 15 days each.

    There are countries where there is lawlessness of bandits, there is where lawlessness of the authorities is, and there is where law and order are.
    In Ukraine, bandits burned tires, in the West they will first shoot them for burning tires, and then they will plant them or vice versa. In Russia, they will simply be fined and put in jail for 15 days.
  7. shibi
    shibi 15 May 2014 07: 43
    -3
    From Lukyanenko-writer expected more ...
    Not justified.
    The level of essay - how I spent ...
    therefore minus.

    Although I read books))) I re-read some twice.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 15 May 2014 07: 56
      +10
      Quote: sibi
      From Lukyanenko-writer expected more ...
      Not justified.
      therefore minus.

      But in my opinion it is fully justified, and God give him health!
      His books are being bought up, and instead of mowing the loot, he is defending his civic position, many have done it ??? And, you say, "-"!
      And as for the fact that we spit on our own rules and find booze at night, and we observe the traffic rules only under the threat of punishment, then this is for us "-", and no one else!
    2. winkiller
      winkiller 15 May 2014 08: 19
      -1
      What did they expect? If it’s not a secret, of course, that he will urge everyone to repeat Maidan in the marsh?
  8. obraztsov
    obraztsov 15 May 2014 07: 45
    +7
    I did not think that in Ukraine such a free-lance.
    Nothing, people in Crimea quickly adapt to Russian rules. Moreover, looking back at today's Ukraine they will never want to.
    1. Egen
      Egen 15 May 2014 09: 34
      +1
      Quote: obraztsov
      I did not think that in Ukraine such a free-lance.

      IMHO it is better to say not "freeman" but "mess" ...
      Any state in return for the safety and well-being of citizens requires both taxes and strict laws. I didn’t come up :) People are just ALL DIFFERENT, it’s only at the lower levels of the Maslov’s pyramid that they have similar needs, and even that ... And then everyone has different goals, culture, etc., therefore, differentiation takes place society - to understand this, it is not necessary to have a degree in sociology or marketing :)
      Therefore, Comrade Lukyanenko is generally right, but it’s already understandable, in Texas and Arizona, people are quite different from Chicago and Florida, so there’s nothing to say about it :)
      And to live - to work or to live - to be "bastard" is rather a differentiation by age :))
  9. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 15 May 2014 07: 45
    +2
    At the age of 17 and up to 25, it is the Maidan romantics who perish, and many, many will die for nothing - for hot coffee in the morning for "good people" within the walls of the White House and the US Congress.
  10. sledge
    sledge 15 May 2014 07: 45
    +3
    All right
  11. Strashila
    Strashila 15 May 2014 07: 50
    +5
    Correctly noticed ... there is freedom, but there is a free woman ... that I want to turn things around.
    One must strive to separate these two understandings of life.
    1. Genry
      Genry 15 May 2014 09: 30
      0
      Support!
      It is like pride and pride.
      Proud man is trying to simplify the relationship. He does not dodge and can punish himself.
      And the eccentric with pride goes to the complication of relations. She does not want to admit the obvious, down to lies and lawlessness.
  12. Flinky
    Flinky 15 May 2014 07: 53
    +4
    Uncle Seryozha is right. Therefore, the article is a plus.
    And yes, I also fasten my seat belt, I don’t go to the oncoming lane and / or under a brick, I’m drunk behind the wheel - no, no.
    And if someone does not like it - Territory 404 is waiting for him.
  13. Turk
    Turk 15 May 2014 07: 54
    +7
    Quote: sergey72
    And if you are 17 years old, and the smell of burning rubber pleasantly tickles your nostrils, a bit with nails seems to be the best solution to problems, parents are fools, they have no children, and the mini-Fuhrer who patted the shoulder is a carrier of absolute truth — then you are in Ukrainian territories. On the wild lands. It seems that there will be plenty to kill and die young.

    Very accurately said ...

    +10000
  14. irk_tma
    irk_tma 15 May 2014 08: 01
    +3
    laughing Be sure to buckle up when we approach the traffic police post winked

    Good afternoon, Alexander!
    Do not blame me, but here for this you have a fat minus (it would be possible, and the second slapped)
    as an extreme example, you are talking about an unfastened seat belt and about alcohol (in this case, driving)
    http://www.irk.ru/news/video/20140512/fracture/
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 13
      -2
      Quote: irk_tma
      but for this you have a fat minus (it would be possible, and the second slapped)

      Yes, at least ten, sculpt not sorry.
      Quote: irk_tma
      as an example, you are talking about an unfastened seat belt and about alcohol (in this case, driving)

      It’s not a belt or a sober way of life that will help D. a road killer. He will ruin himself and others.
      Look at the percentage of accidents between sober and drunk, so most of them fly to the oncoming lane in a sober "mind" and at a rather high speed. Here is one of them, walking along a busy street in Moscow at a speed of 300 per hour. The question is, will a belt help him? though not, but in Russia, the majority has always believed and believes that the rules exist in order to break them hi
      1. andj61
        andj61 15 May 2014 09: 03
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Because, at least minus, at least not, but in Russia the majority has always believed and believes that the rules exist to violate them

        You with your rating and lemon minuses - it’s so ..., nonsense. Of course, we have enough scumbags. And the nihilistic attitude to the law in the minds of people is also firmly rooted. And sober violates even worse than drunk. And drunkenness at the wheel is a violation in itself, and a violation of traffic rules may not be connected with it. There is simply no need to promote targeted violation of the law. You use authority on the site, judging by the comments, a reasonable and sane person - why do you need this. IMHO.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 09: 16
          -1
          Quote: andj61
          There is simply no need to promote targeted violation of the law.

          I do not do propaganda, I just hate it when they lie.
          Everyone here knows that you can buy vodka and people are piling on a belt, but they persistently say that this is not so.
          It’s the same as trying to convince me that it’s autumn now, not spring.
          To whom to lie? What for?
          I recall that in the USSR there was no prostitution.
          She was responsible for prostitution, but there were no prostitutes, but who cares.
          I'm sitting at a party meeting in1978 laughing
  15. Baloo_bst
    Baloo_bst 15 May 2014 08: 03
    +6
    The freedom of one person ends where the freedom of another person begins. (from)
    While in Ukraine they will raise to the knives anyone who does not agree with their opinion, then they will not see freedom for a very long time.
  16. guran
    guran 15 May 2014 08: 05
    +12
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In the purchase of alcohol at night (yes, yes! You can’t do it when you want it!)
    You call a taxi at 3 o’clock in the morning, you go to a convenience store, where they sell exclusively liquor and all related items and buy calmly. Everybody knows about such shops, authorities, cops, but they work quietly.
    The author sees an inveterate teetotaler.
    . It’s necessary to fasten your seat belt and not to drive drunk (oh, you know, traffic cops are so fierce, and bribing them now SO expensive - that people fasten, don’t drink and abide by the rules
    laughing Be sure to buckle up when we approach the traffic police post winked

    1. It will not work calmly, I assure you. You need to know the sellers and the guard, and so that they know you. Just like that, to sell some sort of stupid fool a bottle of vodka - there are no fools. Since this bottle can be very expensive, both a fine and a license to sell alcohol can fly. and the owner of the head will gnaw at the staff.
    Two years ago, beer was sold in every stall. Where is it now? Every second stall is for sale, while others switched to the sale of pasta and hamburgers.
    Yes, cigarettes within a radius of 150 meters from schools also can not be found.
    2. Everyone is fastened, and those that I know and those that I just see in cars.
    No law has been written for fools, and only a Negro or a young gopnik can boast of his bad head. The latter are buried regularly, since they often go out through the windshield.
    And traffic laws are tightened every year and will be tightened, which I joyfully welcome.
    Somehow it is necessary to keep the imbeciles in the shores.
    1. i80186
      i80186 15 May 2014 08: 12
      0
      Yes, everything is much easier with alcohol, the item about the store can be removed at all, just call a taxi. smile
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 24
        0
        Quote: i80186
        just calling a taxi.

        And this also exists, but to hell with whom, what can you prove. Everything is ideological, since it is written in the article that it’s impossible, then it’s impossible wassat
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 22
      -4
      Quote: guran
      1. It will not work calmly, I assure you.

      Do not lie!!!!!!!
      Quote: guran
      2. Fasten everything, and those that I know and those that I just see in cars

      Do not lie!!!
      1. guran
        guran 15 May 2014 08: 28
        +3
        No need to lie to you, my dear.
        And why are there so many exclamation points? What kind of tantrum? You are a woman?
        Drown out emotions.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 55
          -2
          Quote: guran
          No need to lie to you, my dear.

          Shop addresses to tell?
          1. Nekarmadlen
            Nekarmadlen 15 May 2014 12: 40
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: guran
            No need to lie to you, my dear.

            Shop addresses to tell?

            Alexander, where do you live? In Moscow, 99% cash registers after 23-00 (we have alcohol before 23-00) simply can’t drink alcohol physically, they were all cross-talked about in small shops, then, undoubtedly, they will sell you in person as a local , but also local sellers are sooooo selectively and thoughtfully. It’s even useless to enter an unfamiliar shop.
  17. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 15 May 2014 08: 08
    +2
    Everyone living in the country must and must comply with the laws of this country, but I agree we violate some of our laws, but for the time being, you come across and have to answer, you yourself are to blame. And Lukyanenko is a good man, trying to tell the truth what an excellent writer is thinking about, whoever is there, whatever they say.
  18. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 15 May 2014 08: 08
    -3
    Sergey, do not make mistakes of Makarevich and others. You are a good writer, so go about your business, do not meddle in politics. You can’t become a good politician (don’t ask why), but as a writer you’ll be spoiled for sure.
  19. mamont5
    mamont5 15 May 2014 08: 11
    +3
    "If you decide to set a hundred tires on fire in the square and yell at something, a stern riot police will come and politely knock you on the head. After that, they will be fined for 15 days."

    All right. In the same Europe, by the way, they can slap more. We, by the way, also.
  20. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 15 May 2014 08: 11
    +4
    Damn guys! We in Russia have real democracy! (Not according to the American recipe ...)
    You can say everything about everyone, criticize everyone and everyone ... And nothing will happen for this! If you do not violate the rights of others. Otherwise, the "polite" riot police will punish!
    And to buckle up in front of the traffic police post and buy vodka in a shank at night and "tinker with trifles in your pockets," and so "kalym" without paying taxes - this is a national flavor. And the authorities turn a blind eye to it, because it is in our blood, and they have the same thing!
    Something like this, in my opinion ...
  21. Dangerous
    Dangerous 15 May 2014 08: 11
    -1
    Flat article for housewives. What does it have to do with alcohol sales and belts when it comes to such a historical moment as joining the Russian Federation or separating some regions from Ukraine? With the same success, I would also attribute a ban on tinting here in Russia. At the same time, the author didn’t even mention a word about the economic difficulties that the Donbass miners will encounter when joining the Russian Federation, since their coal is more expensive than ours in Russia, and it takes a lot of money to modernize production (and these difficulties in turn, will fall on Russia)
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 15 May 2014 08: 14
      0
      On the other hand, if you do not touch on all these geopolitical problems, but go down to the level of the average person, then there is an absolute plus from joining - the most beautiful and economical girls in the world (Ukrainian women) will now live in Russia, and not abroad)
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    3. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 15 May 2014 08: 18
      +2
      Quote: Dangerous
      What does it have to do with alcohol sales and belts,

      Sorry Dangerous, but you just did not understand the essence. Alcohol and belts were given just for an easy, understandable example, but the essence is:
      Little Russian freemen and partying, sung by Babel and Paustovsky, Bulgakov and Kataev, all these bandit Odessa quirks, all this endless "Wedding in Malinovka", red-white-green robbing and killing each other and the population - this is not with us. This is not for us. The APCs are not rolled along the streets of our cities, shooting around. The economy does not collapse into a dupa, amid soothing stories about the hundreds of billions of bad loans that the United States and Europe will now bring on a silver platter.

      And if you are 17 years old and the smell of burnt rubber tickles your nostrils nicely, a bit with nails seems to be the best solution to problems, your parents are fools, there are no children of your own, and the mini-Fuhrer, who patted him on the shoulder - is the bearer of absolute truth - then you are in Ukrainian territory. To the wild lands. There, it seems, it will be possible to kill and die young enough
    4. Gardamir
      Gardamir 15 May 2014 08: 28
      +1
      Donbass will not enter Russia in the near future, because Transnistria has already refused it, and they have been waiting their turn for a long time. Yes, and money is invested in the Caucasus-Crimea bridge.
      1. podpolkovnik
        15 May 2014 09: 38
        0
        Quote: Gardamir
        Donbass will not enter Russia in the near future, because Transnistria has already refused it, and they have been waiting their turn for a long time. Yes, and money is invested in the Caucasus-Crimea bridge.


        Guys, what are you - wanted everything at once?
        Fast - only cats will be born! And even then - premature!
  22. tokin1959
    tokin1959 15 May 2014 08: 15
    0
    what is the article about?
    Lugansk, Donetsk - do not join Russia, traffic rules must be observed in Russia, you cannot buy booze at night, methadone is prohibited for sale in pharmacies.
    was several times in Ukraine and the Crimea, and vice versa noticed - drivers fasten their seat belts and drive more carefully than in Russia.
    minus.
  23. Gagarin
    Gagarin 15 May 2014 08: 15
    +9
    I, as a resident of Ukraine, with the sale of alcohol in a store in the evening in Volgodonsk, I confess I was surprised.
    And although there are some difficulties with such a rule, believe me, I have a night shop under my window, WHAT THE EARNING LITTLE EYES WILL BE OPERED AT NIGHT (continuously refueling) - I AM NOT happy, but in the morning once a week there’s blood on the steps ....
    I also want such an order in the Donbass.
    1. winkiller
      winkiller 15 May 2014 08: 33
      +2
      That's exactly what I wanted everyone to understand. This is a prohibition against "onyzhedey" in order to save their bad heads.
  24. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 15 May 2014 08: 22
    +3
    I am not a fan of Lukyanenko, but I fully support his thesis. And I fasten my seat belt in a car and do not forget about work / taxes.

    And the talk that you can’t find a booze at night is either for marginal beggars / losers who don’t have enough money for a tavern, or for those who don’t manage to establish private relations with the right sellers. In each area there is a store where you can obviously or stealthily buy alcohol.
    In any case, after the ban on night sales was introduced, there was much less drunken stagger at night. And I think this is an undeniable plus. This is despite the fact that I myself regularly drink and do not suffer from attacks of moralism.
  25. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 15 May 2014 08: 25
    +1
    "Sergei, write more! .." :)
  26. Sergg
    Sergg 15 May 2014 08: 30
    0
    Quote: Sergg
    The author needs to understand one more important thing, that in Russia and Ukraine people are very different. And do not scratch everyone with one comb.


    People are different even on the same street.
    My phrase should be understood only in this way. Read the prepositions, Russian people.
    The author is trying to summarize and contrast separately these are the people of Ukraine, and these are the people of Russia. This is exactly what I did not like about the article.
  27. dilyanna
    dilyanna 15 May 2014 08: 31
    0
    the presentation of information is not in the tomm format, I respect both Russia and Ukraine, everyone has their own level of development ... and we all grow ... if people spit today from the balcony, tomorrow they will throw out the trash ... while he he himself will not fall on his head or be ashamed, like this people. and begins to abandon the primitive standard of living ...
    and then whoever compares is always the loser ...
    I am for an objective vision, which is better not to voice in this format

    my position - I wholeheartedly support Crimeans of the DPR and LPR !!!
  28. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 15 May 2014 08: 32
    +2
    What I can agree with is that people are really different. And they are different because they received different education.
    It all depends on the education, and not on the country in which you live.
    You can fasten your seat belt in a car, don’t sell alcohol at night, don’t spit passers-by under your feet, do not be rude somewhere in one country, but you can come and urinate on a flower bed in another country. Such are the costs of education.
  29. Alexander (L)
    Alexander (L) 15 May 2014 08: 33
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In the purchase of alcohol at night (yes, yes! You can’t do it when you want it!)
    You call a taxi at 3 o’clock in the morning, you go to a convenience store, where they sell exclusively liquor and all related items and buy calmly. Everybody knows about such shops, authorities, cops, but they work quietly.
    The author sees an inveterate teetotaler.
    . It’s necessary to fasten your seat belt and not to drive drunk (oh, you know, traffic cops are so fierce, and bribing them now SO expensive - that people fasten, don’t drink and abide by the rules
    laughing Be sure to buckle up when we approach the traffic police post winked

    I do not agree with you, dear. He was in Moscow with his children in June 13g (before that he was in Moscow in the mid-90s) and was pleasantly surprised by the absence on the streets that were clearly extinguished at a later time of day. Whoever needs it will find, of course, but this IF IF NEEDED. But just like that, passing by to take and roll just in case - it is already impossible.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 54
      0
      Quote: Alexander (L)
      . But just like that, passing by to take and roll just in case - it is already impossible.

      Alex241 from Moscow, ask him and he will tell you where in Moscow you can sell goods. More respectable people will just order home delivery.
      1. PATHuK
        PATHuK 15 May 2014 10: 07
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Alexander (L)
        . But just like that, passing by to take and roll just in case - it is already impossible.

        Alex241 from Moscow, ask him and he will tell you where in Moscow you can sell goods. More respectable people will just order home delivery.


        Alexander, with all due respect, you are arguing in a strange way. You clearly wrote that "passing by." What does "prompt" mean - "prompt" can and where to buy drugs and weapons, etc., but this does not mean that this can be done everywhere and without problems. The situation largely depends on the position of the local authorities. From personal experience: at every stop in the city, instead of a stop pavilion, there were stalls, one of which is right in front of the windows. The central street of the city, Every night there were scandals, fights, cars with loud music - in the summer with the windows open, you know, that was still a dream. Several times I even thought to take pneumatics from my neighbors at night, to drive people from the balcony. After the adoption of the law, silence has been a couple of years.
        In a city with 120 thousand population, there is one store where they sell alcohol at night - and there the cops "live" all night. If you calmly come and buy, no one will say anything, if drunk and inadequate, they will pack immediately.
        It is clear that those who wish will always be able to bypass the law, but the law still exists, and somewhere better, somewhere worse - but it is still being implemented. If it is not so noticeable somewhere, then with time they will feel there too. And it is directed primarily against "everyday life" and teenage alcoholism - I doubt that most people who ordered through the office of Hennessy or Absolute will then break shop windows or piss at bus stops.
        And in my opinion, this is exactly what the author wanted to convey: precisely the existence of a law and a change in people's attitude towards it. Even you fasten your seatbelts before fasting - it means you understand that they will be "screwed up". Several friends have already been without a license for the n / a, and take my word for it, until the moment of deprivation, everyone thought that the issue in their hometown was "solved", but it turned out that it was a matter of principle.
        Itself before and walked until the morning, and even traveled through posts unfastened, and what a sin to hide, as they wrote here, fell out of the car a couple of times when he arrived home. But time goes on, everything changes: the attitude of people and the requirements of laws. So I think Sergey is more likely right than not.
        1. Manul
          Manul 15 May 2014 20: 46
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          Quote: PATHuK
          Alexander, with all due respect, you are somehow strangely arguing

          Aha! It seems that Romanov was replaced .. Maybe after the "prophylaxis", the admin and ava were mutually changed? Leaving only the nickname?
  30. Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 May 2014 08: 33
    +2
    I do not like much in Russia, for example, the dominance of migrants, the dominance of liberalism in the economy and culture. Without violating the rules of the movement, including, I think that I have the moral right to demand compliance with laws from the government.
    And the article that is now a mess on the outskirts is cleaner than ours in the 90s.
  31. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 15 May 2014 08: 41
    +4
    How many people want to object to what is written by the author - a flag in hand.

    I can tell you one thing ... if you don’t fool around (they will always be found in fact about vodka after 23 and about drugs in Kurgan, for example, and about the police) ... if you take it on a large scale, then LUKYANENKO RIGHT.
    We ... as a state ... after the total collapse of the 90s ... and the formation period of the 0s ... we are confidently following the path of restoring order.
    The rest is FRAMES ... and they still decide everything.
  32. guran
    guran 15 May 2014 08: 49
    +1
    Quote: Alexander (L)
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In the purchase of alcohol at night (yes, yes! You can’t do it when you want it!)
    You call a taxi at 3 o’clock in the morning, you go to a convenience store, where they sell exclusively liquor and all related items and buy calmly. Everybody knows about such shops, authorities, cops, but they work quietly.
    The author sees an inveterate teetotaler.
    . It’s necessary to fasten your seat belt and not to drive drunk (oh, you know, traffic cops are so fierce, and bribing them now SO expensive - that people fasten, don’t drink and abide by the rules
    laughing Be sure to buckle up when we approach the traffic police post winked

    I do not agree with you, dear. He was in Moscow with his children in June 13g (before that he was in Moscow in the mid-90s) and was pleasantly surprised by the absence on the streets that were clearly extinguished at a later time of day. Whoever needs it will find, of course, but this IF IF NEEDED. But just like that, passing by to take and roll just in case - it is already impossible.

    The problem is that Sasha Romanov does not understand the nuances in the legal and illegal trade in alcohol.
    He also does not understand that Russia is a big country, and the situation with the sale of alcohol at night in different cities is different. Much depends on the rigidity of local authorities.
    And so, of course, if you look only at the state of emergency channel, then your outlook on life will be in the style of an emergency, and your head will twitch, and your sleep will be disturbing.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 08: 53
      -5
      Quote: guran
      The problem is that Sasha Romanov does not understand the nuances in the legal and illegal trade in alcohol.
      He also does not understand that Russia is a big country,

      I’m just understanding, but the author of the article and you don’t see it when you say that you can’t buy a drink at night. And then, say where you live and I will tell you in three minutes where in your city You can buy vodka at night.
      Teach your children not to lie, but you yourself are lying to the missing.
      Quote: guran
      And so, of course, if you look only at the state of emergency channel, then your outlook on life will be in the style of an emergency, and your head will twitch.

      Is it scary to go out into the street at night without an emergency?
  33. drop
    drop 15 May 2014 08: 58
    0
    Why does the author escalate the negative. I had 15 years to create in Ukraine the defense industry and science. Three months with Marshal E. Savitsky from Odessa, he led the military tests of the 3 districts and the Black Sea Fleet. Everything was perfect, except for Lviv and Rivne. In Lviv, NGOs subordinate to them. Lenin, often had to be there. This is not our area; it has always been opposed to the Russians. Therefore, do not oohulit all regions. In this situation, Ukraine was not thrown 25 years into the hands of the United States, and that’s the result. And with us this could have happened if the yelnyn had held out a little longer.
  34. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky 15 May 2014 09: 01
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    You are right, Sergey Vasilievich. It’s easier to say about what has been written - rural show-offs of ukrov, who call themselves Europeans, and since Europe means democracy, everything can be done and there will be no retaliation. Humus for coiling.
    And about drinking without a belt while driving - it’s not getting into the head and it’s not a matter of fines, and so inadequate inter-steering gaskets (mostly muddy nipples, poorly understanding what responsibility is) and pedestrians come across.
  35. guran
    guran 15 May 2014 09: 03
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: guran
    The problem is that Sasha Romanov does not understand the nuances in the legal and illegal trade in alcohol.
    He also does not understand that Russia is a big country,

    I’m just understanding, but the author of the article and you don’t see this when you say that you can’t buy a drink at night.

    You read the comments with your eyes, please, and turn on the brain. I did not say that alcohol cannot be bought at night. I said that alcohol cannot be bought calmly, do you understand the difference? Other people explain to you, but you don’t understand.

    Whoever needs it will find, of course, but this IF IF NEEDED. But just like that, passing by to take and roll just in case - it is already impossible.


    And so, of course, if you look only at the state of emergency channel, then your outlook on life will be in the style of an emergency, and your head will twitch.

    Is it scary to go out into the street at night without an emergency?

    And here is the exit to the street? Or is it scary to get you out? smaller, then watch TV.
  36. Bigriver
    Bigriver 15 May 2014 09: 10
    +5
    The movement "on the belt" after landing on my machine. Hands do it themselves, and I don't think about it.
    I don’t know the addresses of night spots with alcohol.
    Yes, I still don’t litter on the street.
    So chta-ah, a typical "quilted jacket" soldier
  37. Bigriver
    Bigriver 15 May 2014 09: 10
    0
    The movement "on the belt" after landing on my machine. Hands do it themselves, and I don't think about it.
    I don’t know the addresses of night spots with alcohol.
    Yes, I still don’t litter on the street.
    So chta-ah, a typical "quilted jacket" soldier
  38. Gorec79
    Gorec79 15 May 2014 09: 19
    +1
    article plus. I agree with everything. in Petropavlovsk Kamchatsky I don’t often fasten my seat belt, but now I’ll become. just not to be on the outskirts with their outrage. otherwise why criticize the Maidan, but at the same time you are not observing banal laws? I don’t know, maybe my conscience woke up with me. I haven’t been driving for a long time when the young one was thumping. Now it’s kind of like not, zapadlo. Let maydaunas drink while driving and don’t fasten, violate traffic rules, buy vodka at night. But I'm not like that. I am not a zombie.
    the author expressed his position, respect for it. not many do it. most try to sit out. only liberals makara-shevchuki gundy. Respect to everyone who is not silent, who is trying to explain the USE products what is good and what is bad. there are probably a lot of people who read the night watch, and they don’t know who the banderlogs are, what happened to the Crimea, why they shouldn’t be proud of their seat belt. so even the authority of Lukyanenko will affect them in a good way.
  39. jktu66
    jktu66 15 May 2014 09: 19
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    But cruel tyranny begins in other things. In the purchase of alcohol at night (yes, yes! You can’t when you want to!).
    Nonsense! In Kaliningrad, nightlights called CAFE and sell distressed bubbles to the afflicted
  40. teron
    teron 15 May 2014 09: 34
    +3
    Everything is really simple. After 23.00, the desire to buy alcohol is completely absent. I wear my seat belt anytime, anywhere - it's not hard. And yes, I was in Crimea about 4 years ago, got into a taxi, strapped myself on the machine, and I was a taxi driver: "You are from Russia." Yes, we also had illegal gaming clubs, but gradually everything was closed, it was forbidden to sell beer in tents - and, lo and behold! he's not there. A fine was introduced for drinking alcoholic beverages in public places - no one with beer on the streets. And so, yes, to find where vodka is sold at night or to fly on the roads exceeding the speed and not wearing a seat belt full of hunters, but every year it is more and more annoying and thoughts that our state is too liberal in relation to some irresponsible citizens.
    1. Egen
      Egen 15 May 2014 10: 04
      +2
      A couple of kopecks about fastening in the Crimea :)
      IMHO this is their geographical-national feature of character traits :))
      Year 1982, like the flourishing of socialism. Finished school, in the summer flew to relatives at sea. In the airport Simferopol, the guy offers a taxi to get to the desired city. Well, let's go to the car - an ancient penny. I understood cars then, my heart skipped a bit like that right away ... Well, copeck so copeck, here to go something 40 km ...
      We sit down, I’m in front, automatically fasten my seat belt with my hand - but it is not there, not even a trace - it’s an old penny! Drove says - yes, garbage, we’ll get there! Well, damn, I think okay, I’m going to push my feet better, okay, we’ve started ...
      I’m looking where I can rest and put bags under my feet - I’m looking at something below, it’s flickering ... and this is a floor full of holes! :) Here I think sat down! :) But then the car just drove onto the road, and away we go, about the floor I did not remember ...
      The path is lane in each direction. A guy on a 10 + -year old kopeck is gaining 110 - 130 km / h, grit - "we'll jump quickly, my brakes are bad, so don't slow down, we will overtake" :)) When you come up to the bus from behind, the brakes don't work , you can either drive into the backside or overtake, and towards the truck is ... unforgettable :)) Perhaps it was from that trip 30+ years ago that I began to turn gray :))
      1. teron
        teron 15 May 2014 11: 29
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        We also have enough of them. I personally know such people. Moreover, I work in one office. "Yes, I don't break the rules, I only exceed the speed." It's just touching. Flying on some kind of rusty bucket! And also this: "I like to enter a turn on the verge of collapse." This is on "seven" 15 years ago. Non-drinker, adult man, two children. Although we live much north of the Crimea.
  41. guran
    guran 15 May 2014 09: 48
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Alexander (L)
    . But just like that, passing by to take and roll just in case - it is already impossible.

    Alex241 from Moscow, ask him and he will tell you where in Moscow you can sell goods. More respectable people will just order home delivery.

    1. Have goods not in any store, but in PLACES. those. make time-consuming body movements in the night city. Most likely, you will have to take a taxi, and this is a plus for spending on alcohol, which is always more expensive at night. In addition, these PLACES must be known in advance.
    2. When ordering a home alcohol is much more expensive. But this does not matter, because suckers, drunks and fools always pay twice.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 10: 19
      0
      Quote: guran
      2. When ordering a home alcohol is much more expensive.

      Order home prices.
      And in your opinion for the liter of Absolute, 1000 r is expensive?
      Plus, when ordering a taxi, the taxi driver himself knows where to drive. And the trip itself will offend you about 150 p.
      People have long been suckers to overpay.
      1. guran
        guran 15 May 2014 11: 31
        +2
        Are these prices valid throughout the country? Taxi drivers work for a taxi company and carry passengers at a fare. Maybe this is your full-time taxi driver who knows where to take you as a regular customer.
        Alexander, everyone has already understood that you are thumping day and night.
        And many here tried to popularly explain to you that buying alcohol passing by and / or nearby is not at all like going to the address places that the taxi driver knows and will take you for 150 rubles.
        And the situation with the purchase of alcohol in the country over the past two years has changed, thanks to the adopted anti-alcohol laws.
        You do not understand point blank.
        You need at least a stake on the head of a chesha.
        Alcoholics degrade and do not notice.
      2. winkiller
        winkiller 15 May 2014 11: 44
        +2
        Alexander, Avon, how, you hooked.
        wink The thought crept about a candle factory
        1. guran
          guran 15 May 2014 11: 56
          0
          damn, but somehow I did not think about
          Quote: winkiller
          Alexander, Avon, how, you hooked.
          wink The thought crept about a candle factory

          damn, but somehow I did not think about it smile
          there it is, Mikhalych ... (c)
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 May 2014 16: 59
          0
          Quote: winkiller
          The thought crept about a candle factory

          I would have your difficulties wink
  42. KOH
    KOH 15 May 2014 10: 04
    +3
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: Good cat
    so everyone was united and fastened, and now they’re used to

    And now unfastened, even unusual.


    More precisely, it’s not decent ...
  43. Manul
    Manul 15 May 2014 21: 05
    +2
    It seems that Alexander Romanov enrolled in the granddaughter of Crimean officers. A bunch of posts distracting from the essence of the article. The article is wonderful. It reflects the opinions of people who care about the order in our country.
    Recently, Apollo surprised me - he posted a video with a comment like "Well, the lawlessness of the Russian police began in Crimea." And there it was just that they stopped the car of a citizen who had a deep tint on all the windows .. Well, so what? Absolutely legal requirements, and absolutely normal law.
    I also explain that for the "armored trains" - an attempt by the state to restore order, it will certainly rest against the rabid shouts of the "opposition". I like the fact that now I can cross the pedestrian crossing not as a suicide bomber, but as simply fearing for my life. I like that at night I walk down the street and there is no bustle of unbalanced crowds of mad alcoholics (although I myself do not want to drink, and I used to go around the streets in such a way that I think the surrounding residents were not happy - thank God I grew up). I like that we have a hard NO to drugs at all times! I like that the porches now do not smell like smoke ..
    It has been said more than once - "Freedom begins where the freedom of another ends."
    Romanov! Your attempts to distract society from the essence of the article by essentially trolling that "alcohol is available" makes me ask. Are you exactly the Romanov we knew?