Medvedev is going to "cut" the state apparatus by 10%

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev announced another initiative to reduce the number of civil servants. This time we are talking about an optimization program, in which the reduction will affect 10% of the number of employees of various government agencies of various levels. This is the official Russian Cabinet website.

Dmitry Medvedev instructed the Ministry of Finance before July 1 to submit proposals on the optimal reduction of the number of government employees.

The prime minister, during his speech before the State Duma 22 deputies of April, started talking about the need to think again about the need to reduce the state apparatus at various levels. According to the chairman of the government, Russia needs a compact and efficient state apparatus, which is oriented on citizens' requests.
New cuts are planned to be made both at the regional and at the state level.

The initiative itself Medvedev causes approval from the Russians, but not everyone is confident in its implementation. According to opinion polls, more than 82% of Russians advocate a reduction in the number of the state apparatus.
At the same time, the overwhelming majority of respondents are not sure that the optimal reduction will be carried out in reality. The main reason for such skepticism is that there is systematic talk about reducing the number of officials in Russia, but they do not always lead to a result. So, Medvedev's previous order to reduce the state apparatus by 20%, in his own words, was implemented “somewhere better, somewhere worse.”

ITAR-TASS presents an infographic on the change in the number of civil servants in the Russian Federation in recent years:

Comments

[mamont5]

The thing is necessary, of course. If only it were not, as usual. We are reducing the technical equipment - we accept two deputy directors.

[Samaritan]

So I think my wife works with the sovereign with the RFP 18 tr. From morning till night plows ...
I feel that they are being dismissed, and the deputies with millions of salaries will continue to drive their hands ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: mamont5

We are reducing the technical equipment - we accept two deputy directors.

Quote: Samaritan

I feel that they are being dismissed, and the deputies with millions of salaries will continue to drive their hands ...

And so it will be. Especially the average salaries "in the hospital" made me happy. In the regions, "specialists" of all kinds of federal "supervision" receive a penny, 13-15 thousand rubles each.

[vladimirZ]

The increase in the number of officials in any administrative apparatus obeys the well-known Parkinson's law, which states that the increase in the number of officials in the administrative apparatus does not depend on the volume of work performed by this apparatus, but tends to a steady gradual increase due to self-bureaucracy of the administrative apparatus.
Parkinson’s Law on the increase in the number of officials is perfectly confirmed by the multiple increase in the number of officials in Russia, compared with the number of officials throughout the USSR.
In the apparatus of the Government of the Russian Federation, it is necessary to reduce all non-professionals who drag a bunch of different kinds of advisers into the management apparatus, because they themselves do not possess the necessary knowledge, life, professional and production experience.
Remember: the head of the public health was an accountant, the defense was a salesman, etc. etc.
And the first one you need to reduce is the prime minister of the Government of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Medvedev, who does not have any economic knowledge, does not have enough life, professional, production experience to occupy such an important post of government in the state. So a lawyer who has never worked in her specialty anywhere other than an educational institution.
Let him start with himself.

[Mainbeam]

Quote: vladimirZ

The increase in the number of officials in any administrative apparatus obeys the well-known Parkinson's law, which states that the increase in the number of officials in the administrative apparatus does not depend on the volume of work performed by this apparatus, but tends to a steady gradual increase due to self-bureaucracy of the administrative apparatus.
Parkinson’s Law on the increase in the number of officials is perfectly confirmed by the multiple increase in the number of officials in Russia, compared with the number of officials throughout the USSR.
In the apparatus of the Government of the Russian Federation, it is necessary to reduce all non-professionals who drag a bunch of different kinds of advisers into the management apparatus, because they themselves do not possess the necessary knowledge, life, professional and production experience.
Remember: the head of the public health was an accountant, the defense was a salesman, etc. etc.
And the first one you need to reduce is the prime minister of the Government of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Medvedev, who does not have any economic knowledge, does not have enough life, professional, production experience to occupy such an important post of government in the state. So a lawyer who has never worked in her specialty anywhere other than an educational institution.
Let him start with himself.

I would put ten pluses for the comment.

[Little Muck]

Quote: mamont5

. If only it were not, as usual. Reduce the technicals - we accept two deputy directors

First you need to look at the ever-growing crowd of close associates who are no longer called. In short, everything is according to Krylov:
"Than the gossips count to work,
Isn't it better to turn on yourself, godfather? "

[volot-voin]

I am afraid, as always, they will reduce clerks, of whom there are so few. Hello queue. They would reduce the Duma, duplicating various services, an infinite number of deputies, the number of procedures with various approvals.
Well, for example, if you cut a couple of aunts in the social security, the line will increase significantly and will only harm the people.

[Orik]

Quote: mamont5

The thing is necessary, of course. If only it were not, as usual. We are reducing the technical equipment - we accept two deputy directors.

Dima needs to start with YOURSELF!

[Homo]

Quote: mamont5

If only it were not, as usual.

I understand your concerns, but one request is to carefully read and review the pictures for the article. Since 2009, there has been a reduction and no leaps. This is a system and not an action !!! And local growth, this is a claim to your local authorities.

[Homo]

And what is the minus? Or, as always, I crowed, and at least do not dawn there!

[Homo]

No way, the all-protractors got mad at me.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Homo

No way, the all-protractors got mad at me.

Yes, you, I see, is full of friends here. I will help with all I can.

[AVV]

Quote: mamont5

The thing is necessary, of course. If only it were not, as usual. We are reducing the technical equipment - we accept two deputy directors.

It’s high time, and every year it’s necessary to optimize !!! Otherwise, three more new ministries will be opened, and these officials will smoothly flow there !!! Across the Caucasus, Crimea and the Far East, and this reduction ???

[Com T-64a]

WELL CLEAN- "BEES AGAINST HONEY" ...
Fresh food, but angry with difficulty!

[from punk]

Quote: Com. T-64a

WELL CLEAN- "BEES AGAINST HONEY".

to cut-the word is what. soon the bear will press mobile phones

[sv68]

there is experience - in the states iPhone squeezed the director of the apple Stephen Jobs

[zeleznijdorojnik]

Thinking good. But I am afraid that not Moscow ministries and departments will suffer, but social workers who directly work with the population, in short, "little people." Create three ministries, and then talk about cutting ...

[Baikal]

Frankly, I see no difference in quantity. Need more - means more, less - less. The main thing is that all this should work as it should.
If a situation arises, you need to hire at least 1000 more real experts and patriots to the city - but for God's sake, I will only say thank you.

[MolGro]

Here are the norms of reduction!
700
400
200

[Turik]

At the time of the "terrible, bloody totalitarian scoop" bureaucrats were 2 times less. With full state. control of everything and everyone. And they worked, judging by the results, unlike the active current ones.

Now it’s more correct to say not the state apparatus, but the state trough for feeding the subject of the article.

[Turkir]

I managed to read you, otherwise I would have written the same thing myself.
10% is too little.

[made13]

Officials are needed - instead of dismissing 10%, developing a methodology to increase efficiency, politeness and attention to citizens by 10% would be better.

[andj61]

Quote: made13

Officials are needed - instead of dismissing 10%, developing a methodology to increase efficiency, politeness and attention to citizens by 10% would be better.

I support! For some reason, for us, all the reductions lead to the dismissal of those who are objectionable, and actually working, but the general reduction of the state apparatus is not visible. Really only an increase is seen.

[Altona]

Quote: made13

Officials are needed - instead of dismissing 10%, developing a methodology to increase efficiency, politeness and attention to citizens by 10% would be better.

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A lot of official work in general can be converted into electronic form and not communicate directly with the person in the window ...

[Turkir]

Many can be replaced with just a button. That's for sure.

[All1]

Something is hard to believe. Usually the opposite result is obtained from such initiatives for some reason.

[Silkway0026]

I do not believe. I don’t believe anyone!

[Ilya 22]

Yeah, really ... another reform, a great damn reformer, then replace the light bulbs, then rename the police to the police, the movement is life)

[Gagarin]

WELL IF MEDVEDEV PROMISED TO CUT TO PERFORM, THIS IS JUST HIS PROFILE.

[Serg 122]

A little more about the sanctions:
Canada demands Magna to stop cooperation with Avtotor
The government of the country demanded that the Canadian-Austrian company Magna break off all relations with the Russian Avtotor. Magna is not only one of the world's largest automotive component manufacturers, but also a participant in the project of creating an autocluster in the Kaliningrad region.
The letter sent to the Magna company by the Canadian government was reported by the chairman of the board of directors of the Russian company, Vladimir Shcherbakov, to Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev during a visit by the head of government to Kaliningrad. Medvedev examined one of the plants of the Avtotor group of companies.
According to Shcherbakov, Canada demanded to terminate the contract with Avtotor. However, in response to this, the Austrian mission announced that it intends to continue to work with Russian partners.
Medvedev, in turn, instructed the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, Denis Manturov, to keep this situation under control, including in terms of relations with Canadian companies. “We need to see and send some kind of letter,” the head of the Russian government quoted RIA Novosti as saying.

[jagdpanzer]

it's better if expenses like Kruzak 200 and Audi are cut back, otherwise each head of the village wants to buy it! Http: //zakupki.gov.ru/epz/order/notice/ea44/view/common-info.html? noti
ceId = 12638 example!

[rasputin17]

Nobody will even notice half of these parasites and treasuries !!!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

This is where the salaries of officials in Moscow? As always, the provinces will reduce their numbers in Moscow, increase .. (passed already)

[Zenturion77]

That hell knows where such zp with civil servants. GS itself, there are friends in the GS, s.p. from 15t.r. up to 40t.r.
Average salary here, as the average temperature in the ward.

[avia1991]

Quote: MIKHAN

This is where the salaries of officials in Moscow?

Yes, for sure there is! Cleaners can’t get more than fifty dollars! Absolutely, poor fellow, impoverished ..

[e_krendel]

The population (since Soviet times) has not increased. Functional responsibilities are about the same (and then everything also worked). Without exception, all civil servants now have computers (in theory, labor productivity should grow significantly). That is, there is no reason to increase the number of employees. It would be more appropriate to talk about their reduction at times, and not by units of percent.

[mig31]

The thing is that the official, like a weed, removed the sdes in a different place, ascended, weeding regularly, and the rubbish is still there. We will see ..

[UFO]

I would start with myself!

[Mainbeam]

Trim the bear by 10% !?
What part do you think to start with?

[fzr1000]

Why not 50-60%? Medvedev, you’ll already go on indefinite vacation with your worthless liberoband.

[Giant thought]

Additional chapters, departments, institutions are being organized, some state institutions are being privatized, and everything will always be on paper, the bureaucratic apparatus will never let itself be offended. But Medvedev wants to show off in the eyes of the people, as a guardian of national interests.

[Russ69]

Quote: Thought Giant

But Medvedev wants to show off in the eyes of the people, as a guardian of national interests.

And do nothing, would it be better, or what?
Nafig indignant before something is done, the more the idea is correct ...

[zeleznijdorojnik]

DAM has already noted the law on compulsory tenders with the purchase of goods at a minimum price. Obviously, they used to steal and buy at inflated prices, but they are stealing and now, while buying the rarest Chinese city at low prices ... A living example, a brother in the civil service, told: in 2005, special multi-thousand candle lamps "Siemens" were purchased at a price of 5000 a piece. After 8 years, a replacement was required, a Siemens tender was held at a cost of 10, but Chinese analogues of 000 appeared, the declared characteristics are the same. I had to take it, after 4 weeks they started to burn, after a month all 500 (2 million rubles) burned out, a new tender, again Chinese ... In short, instead of 500 million (our taxpayers' money) and 2.25-5 years of equipment operation, for last year it is too early, otherwise not to say, 8 million and this continues. (((

[Mainbeam]

The official representative of the US State Department, Mrs. Psaki, continues to “delight” the public with her speeches.

Laughing, reading about the Yankees; but I think that we have the same canoe.

[Lyubteh]

Oh well, in FIG how many they do not reduce and they only become more. !!!

[creak]

How many of these decisions have already been made, and the number of officials is only growing ... It is no coincidence that back in Soviet times, the phrase was born about these reductions: "Reducing the apparatus - lengthening the coil" ...

[pexotinec]

We know we have passed these reductions already. Reduce workhorses, and loafers of high-ranking will leave. Then they will begin to cry, that they can’t cope and again the staff is inflated. To take as an example the reduction in the police, all the chiefs remained, and the working personnel were cut down by the very least, especially in the districts (although the reduction concerned only high-ranking officials). And then they clutched their heads that there was no one to work on the ground and began to recruit again.

[VNP1958PVN]

Medvedev’s previous order to reduce the state apparatus by 20% led to its growth by 30%

[siberalt]

And why should officials reduce the apparatus? To save budget? So is it not easier to refuse incredible premiums or reduce salaries by the same 10%, as is done with regard to teachers and doctors under various tricks.

[xbhxbr-777]

The decision is very correct, is another thing feasible, is it ?!

[Mainbeam]

voiced another reduction initiative

It stuck in my memory that after that "reduction" by 20%, the number of officials increased by 1 million.
Maybe something happened to my memory? Or was it after the reduction in the number of ministries? Well, in general, another folly, another populist joke, like the fight against corruption. The people decided to amuse, to please the people.

It is necessary to optimize the work of the state apparatus. And with the reduction or expansion, it is necessary to think so.

[GHOST_AAA]

Basically, dead souls were reduced, these are reserved posts for academicians or simply vacant at that time.

[vsoltan]

There is a win-win option in advance .... which everyone has been using for a long time, for example, in the healthcare apparatus. So, in one of the departments of one of the districts, by state, for example, there are 50 officials. And they "knock out" the rates for themselves - 100. When the moment of reduction comes - well, the rates are cut, ie. "empty" places. Everyone is happy, the report is upstairs. It's simple.

[Gardamir]

Dmitry Anatolyevich, designate me as a cutter. I will not cut anyone, they will leave themselves. For example, how many cool guys we have. who did not serve in the army, but they clung to the civil service. They were going to introduce a ban for officials who did not serve in the army. Like, you have an idea.

[dmb]

Very, very relevant thought. Its effectiveness was not further demonstrated yesterday by the Guarantor by creating a new ministry. And how we have lived without him for so many years, I can’t imagine. Everything will be as always: foresters were reduced, and the number of secretaries of the forest minister was increased. Again, apparently, not all advisers to Serdyukov are employed.

[B.T.V.]

And the picture always touches me: you go into the office of the civil servant, and there are so many papers around the PC that sometimes the civil servant himself is not immediately visible.

[Beccer]

Old giving, but hard to believe. Or maybe he’s grabbing the image of the people a little ?! Look, GDP has grown as a percentage of confidence, and this one is trying to raise the popularity scale. Let’s sleep better, maybe he’ll dream smarter ....

[JonnyT]

as the classic said "Fresh legend, but hard to believe"))))

[pazuhinm]

As the results of comparison with other countries of the world show, the opinion of an overabundance of officials in our country is quite controversial. So, if in Russia, according to the results of 2011, there were 10 officials in government posts per 67 thousand people, in economically growing China this figure is about 50, according to RIA-Analytics experts.
At the same time, approximately 10 people employed in the civil service account for 250 thousand people in Romania, about 300 in Germany and Norway, about 350 in the USA, and about 400 civil servants in France (i.e., in the relative values ​​of officials in France, 6 times more than in Russia!).


RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/research/20120412/623975661.html#ixzz31fkVuwOk

[pazuhinm]

and more:
The most bureaucratic regions are the Chukotka Autonomous Okrug and the Nenets Autonomous Okrug, where the highest proportion of officials in the total number of people employed in the economy (5%) and their highest number per 10 thousand people are 323 and 244, respectively.

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/research/20120412/623975661.html#ixzz31fl4OZKD

[Calter]

Quote: siberalt

And why should officials reduce the apparatus? To save budget? So is it not easier to refuse incredible premiums or reduce salaries by the same 10%, as is done with regard to teachers and doctors under various tricks.

Her, then they will begin to starve and will be forced to take bribes.

[tolancop]

Outwardly, the idea looks great - to reduce 10% of officials (service people) to increase the efficiency of the state apparatus. Urya-I-I-I - !!!!!
In reality, it will look something like this ... There is a certain government ministry (agency, service). Her boss will receive an order for a 10% reduction. The topmost boss will think and give an order to reduce the central office by 3 percent, and one level lower will lower the order to reduce percent by 12. At that level, the next boss will do a similar procedure, and so on. in the Result at the lowest link, i.e. leading directly rough work, will be reduced by all 20%. It would be okay if this reduction was accompanied by a change in approaches to work, all unnecessary bureaucratic crap in the form of endless reporting on the same eggs in profile, full face, bottom, top, at an angle of 30 degrees, etc. those. a real increase in work efficiency. But it will turn out just the opposite: the bureaucrats remaining on top, to justify their existence, will spawn a bunch of circulars and let them down for execution. All this has already passed and more than once. But a certain character wanted to step on a rake once again. At one time, he also reduced the police, and then wondered why it turned out to be 2 police officers for the entire Kievsky railway station ...
There are no words, it is necessary to increase the efficiency of the state appraisal. But the number of civil servants should be reduced only according to the results of ALREADY CARRYED OUT ACTIVITIES THAT REALIZED. Those. Reduce posts that have become unnecessary due to INCREASED EFFICIENCY, and not vice versa.
Again, the causes and effect are mixed up in places. About 10 years ago, an administrative reform was carried out in the country, which, it seems, was ordered to be forgotten due to its deafening failure. And who is the author of this reform, remember? ...

[Turkir]

Here is the news - Nalivaychenko, wounded from a sniper rifle.
Who's next?
http://politobzor.net/show-21482-na-glavu-sbu-soversheno-pokushenie.html

[Russ69]

Quote: Turkir

Here is the news - Nalivaychenko, wounded from a sniper rifle.

While there is no confirmation anywhere, and the source cannot be called serious ...
But if the truth is good. The junta must be afraid ...

[vsdvs]

Salaries are shown to ministries, and in the regions the federals have salaries that are often below average. While the real work is being done on the ground. They are cutting back not in the ministries, but in the territories. The highest salary in the government apparatus - i.e. those who serve Medvedev himself and various Dvorkovichs. But on the ground to cut people for long, only who will work?

[GHOST_AAA]

The idea can be a good one and it is being implemented very badly, I, as a former official of the federal customs service, do not know by hearsay. In the Far East, with an allowance, the chief inspector receives a little more than 40000 rubles, and the rest are even less for the most part, and the chief specialists who are unable to defend their staff are reducing the specialists in the departments, these are mainly IT departments, logistics, etc. d. departments that provide work for those who work directly with citizens. And from my own experience I will tell you, from 2006 to 2013 the volume of paperwork has increased significantly. We did not work, we only reported. Every year we formed a plan for the budget for three years in advance, Mr. Ahren asked. The reduction, in my opinion, will not lead to anything, it’s just that even more work will be done on ordinary officials, and then the people will simply run away from there, as I did at the first opportunity that turned up. Those who work in government agencies will understand me, it DAMAGED.

[vedross]

The idea is good, but its implementation is strange - reduce it by 10%. An amazing approach, some kind of structureless, but purely numerical. But in this case, it is better to immediately reduce 50%. Better yet, 90%! And how do you understand the command given to the ministries to work out whom to reduce? Yes, you rulers themselves must work out everything and lower the new structure from above to all government departments! The numerical approach will not have any effect on the management of the state, but most likely will worsen such management.

[Grbear]

by optimal reduction in the number of employees of the state apparatus.

Judging by the "order" - the optimality ends with 10% of the population. Offer - 10% of the budget for the category of employees with a salary of more than 75 "pieces".
But to whom to entrust this good deed?

[ICT]

oh and loves ladies with papers drawn

[pensioner]

Medvedev is going to "cut" the state apparatus by 10%

If he himself got into these 10%, then he wouldn’t have a price- !

[tolancop]

Quote: retired

Medvedev is going to "cut" the state apparatus by 10%

If he himself got into these 10%, then he wouldn’t have a price- !

That's for sure. He recalled for a long time, but could not recall at least one proposal he had put forward that would be of benefit. Or zilch ... or harm ...

[snn]

As we have said, they will reduce it by 10%, and increase it by 110%. In general, the government needs to be reduced by 90% and there will be more benefits.

[Vladimir 23rus]

Yes, yes, yes, I heard 3 more new ministries created. Well, damn it when they remove it, when! No strength to look at this ........