Birth of the Federal Republic of New Russia

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On his Facebook page, Oleg Tsaryov, who had recently withdrawn his candidacy from the presidential elections in Ukraine, recorded that the coordinating council of the South-East movement is adopting a resolution to protect the state sovereignty of Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics.

Oleg Tsaryov writes that the resolution was adopted on the basis of the voiced results of the referendum, according to which the Donetsk People’s Republic and the Luhansk People’s Republic were proclaimed sovereign states.

The full text of the resolution can be found on the website of the coordination movement. "Southeast".



The resolution consists of several main points, revealing the essence of the formation of the management system of new state bodies. In particular, a plan of action in the political field is presented. Among others in this chapter there is a clause with a proposal to other regions of Ukraine on the creation of a Federal Republic of Novorossia, as well as a clause on preparing for the drafting of the Constitution of Novorossiya, which (the Federal Republic) will initially include the DNR and the LPR.

The resolution calls upon Kiev to stop the punitive operation in the southeast, as well as the call for Russia and Belarus to accept the NRF into the Union State, plus a call for Kazakhstan to accept the New Russia into a single customs space.

The section on state-building contains paragraphs on the creation of parliaments of the LPR and the DPR, declaring state borders of republics with the reassignment of check points at the Ukrainian-Russian border to the authorities of the DPR and LPR.

In the economic field, the authorities of the republics announce the nationalization of Ukrainian property on the territory of the DPR and LPR, imposing a ban on shale gas production, refusal of customs control at the border with the Russian Federation, confirmation of duty-free trade with the Russian Federation and other CIS countries.

The final chapter of the resolution concerns the creation of the governing bodies of the Federal Republic of Novorossia with presidential and parliamentary elections, and other federal authorities.

Birth of the Federal Republic of New Russia
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  1. +104
    13 May 2014 21: 04
    Prosperity and peace of New Russia.
    1. Validator
      +46
      13 May 2014 21: 15
      Everything is going according to plan :) Two weeks ago I wrote that Tsarev would become the president of New Russia. This is not the full text of the resolution, there are 3 more parts, it’s a pity you can’t insert, but I will try with pictures. I inserted everything, who are interested, look in the comments below
      1. +10
        13 May 2014 21: 21
        Quote: Validator
        I wrote two weeks ago that Tsarev will become president of Novorossi


        It is possible, but it has not yet been chosen
        1. Validator
          +20
          13 May 2014 21: 24
          Quote: bulvas
          Quote: Validator
          I wrote two weeks ago that Tsarev will become president of Novorossi


          It is possible, but it has not yet been chosen

          But at least he formulated the direction and led the movement. This resolution is a roadmap.
          1. +21
            13 May 2014 21: 31
            Quote: Validator
            But at least he formulated the direction and led the movement. This resolution is a roadmap.


            I have nothing against Tsarev.

            If elected, let him be president
            1. +1
              14 May 2014 02: 06
              Quote: bulvas
              I have nothing against Tsarev.

              If elected, let him be president

              This is the same Tsarev whom in one TV show the TV presenter "poked at all corners" because of his ignorance? His presidency? Well, times, well, people! fool
              1. +5
                14 May 2014 03: 53
                Quote: Nikolaevich I
                Quote: bulvas
                I have nothing against Tsarev.

                If elected, let him be president

                This is the same Tsarev whom in one TV show the TV presenter "poked at all corners" because of his ignorance? His presidency? Well, times, well, people! fool

                I agree, there should be a better candidate ....
                1. +3
                  14 May 2014 05: 33
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  I agree, there should be a better candidate ....

                  Gubarev is really from the people.
                2. +4
                  14 May 2014 08: 47
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  I agree, there should be a better candidate ....

                  And who is he in life actually?
                  Who called him at all?
                  Now that the referendums have been held, there will be many who wish to GET into the POWER!
                  Honestly _ PRISE!
                  1. +2
                    15 May 2014 16: 00
                    I agree. Read the conversation between Tsarev and Kolomoisky about allegedly a million behind his head. Tsarev transfers the conversation to Africa with some kind of poison ..
                    Tsarev is a dark person.
                    Is Strelkov a bad presidential candidate?
                    Why not shooters?
                    Here is the entry:
                    http://russian.rt.com/article/32025
                3. Ujin61
                  0
                  16 May 2014 11: 28
                  In what gear?
              2. tigers4
                +1
                14 May 2014 16: 56
                Yes, a normal man. And here is eloquence, it is necessary that everything is done correctly for the benefit of the DPR.
                1. +1
                  15 May 2014 07: 54
                  Cynical as it sounds, but in politics normal men nothing to do .
                  There are enough precedents.
                  Moreover, to paraphrase _ A normal man, this is not a profession!
        2. +2
          13 May 2014 21: 55
          Quote: bulvas
          It is possible, but it has not yet been chosen

          We assume that this is a forecast ... wink
        3. +19
          13 May 2014 22: 05
          With all due respect to his efforts and help ... he does not pull much on the leader. Maximum Chairman of Parliament.
          1. +4
            13 May 2014 22: 14
            Yes, I saw him in a dispute on UkrTV and how he behaved after a certain beating ... forced to agree.
          2. +8
            13 May 2014 22: 17
            Quote: Iskander Khan
            With all due respect to his efforts and help ... he does not pull much on the leader. Maximum Chairman of Parliament.

            Tsarev is a very brave and strong-willed man, and not stupid ... than not a leader.
            1. +3
              14 May 2014 05: 37
              Quote: Tor Hummer
              Tsarev is a very brave and strong-willed man, and not stupid ... than not a leader

              Yanukovych was also called a PRO-RUSSIAN candidate, and what we saw next ..? Gubarev is a popular candidate, out of competition.
              1. +1
                14 May 2014 17: 36
                Gubarev has no experience of political intrigue, and Tsarev has been spinning there for a long time and has experience, and this is important now.
          3. +15
            13 May 2014 22: 43
            Mega leader is not needed yet - with whom is it cool to bark on the world stage?
            I think Tsarev, like his program, is currently the best solution.
            He always, before Odessa, advocated a single, independent - you can’t get lost.
            He advocates a united Novorossia (incl. Dnepropetrovsk), though not allied, but still not Russia.
            In this situation, we get a chance to clear Little Russia from the fascists, disconnecting New Russia and not make enemies for the future in Little Russia.
            Well this is just my opinion. hi
            1. Ujin61
              0
              16 May 2014 11: 30
              Why decide for the people? There will be elections and everything will fall into place.
          4. +12
            13 May 2014 23: 29
            It's time for you to contact the admins, let them introduce a new flag of the DPR instead of the yellow-black.
        4. +2
          14 May 2014 04: 07
          Quote: bulvas
          Quote: Validator
          I wrote two weeks ago that Tsarev will become president of Novorossi


          It is possible, but it has not yet been chosen


          Yes, it seems he headed for this position.
          By the way, the latest news:

          "Media: The militias detained the head of the Eastern Territorial Command of Ukraine.
          The head of the Eastern Territorial Command, Colonel Yuri Lebed, was captured by militias in the Donetsk region, local media reported.
          During the Euromaidan, Lebed was in charge of a special-purpose regiment of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in Crimea. After the peninsula became part of Russia, the officer refused to accept Russian citizenship "
          http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/5/13/686588.html

          And there in the comments:
          "On the Khokhlyansk news site there is infa about the attempt on Nalyvaichenko's life. Something's quiet here. Here's a copy-paste:

          "... KYIV. 13 May. UNN. This year's warnings about 7.34 quick swing on the head of the Security Service of Ukraine V. Nalivaychenko, who had removed the wounded breast cancer in the fire chamber, passed on to UNN with the help of the Ukrainian ZMI.
          Yak is indicated at the middle of the year, the clergyman, who is in charge of the sniper gunting, is the znik. Damaged to criminal justice. The rookie of the attacker is being conducted.
          V. Nalivaychenko at the heavy station of deliveries to the hospital.
          There wasn’t enough time to get the latest information .... "

          And this is on the human:

          "... Kiev, May 13. On Tuesday at 7.34 local time, an attempt was made on the life of the head of the Security Service of Ukraine, Valentin Nalyvaichenko, who received a gunshot wound to the chest, reports UNN with reference to the Ukrainian media.
          As noted in the reports, the attacker who fired the sniper rifle disappeared. A criminal case was initiated. The attacker is being searched for. Nalyvaichenko was taken to the hospital in serious condition. No additional information has been received yet .... "

          No confirmation yet. True or not?
          1. DimychDV
            +3
            14 May 2014 07: 30
            >> After the entry of the peninsula into Russia, the officer refused to accept Russian citizenship >>
            And shaw, for this one is already guilty? Intern and send where requested ... after the end of hostilities.
            And for Nalyvaichenko ... it would be nice to have information about the course of all kinds of extreme meetings of their own rule. Maybe they decided to sacrifice him - or whatever he wanted to take his place. In any case, such a radish horseradish is not sweeter for the South-West. Is that what Sashko Bilogo will be put in his place ...
            Although, of course, you can imagine what kind of "Berkut" in the sniper's place. And for a long time offended by the victims of the crime. Today there are plenty of weapons, everyone has more than enough motives - the best situation for settling scores. Even political, even career, even personal.
        5. +1
          14 May 2014 05: 32
          Quote: bulvas
          It is possible, but it has not yet been chosen

          Gubarev is much more honest.
          1. DimychDV
            +3
            14 May 2014 07: 40
            A politician does not have to be honest. People should like him. And protect the people. At least like Yanukovych, who did not allow shooting on the Maidan. There everything would explode immediately, since everything was ready for that. Well, he did not give them a reason - so they took it themselves. But the politician who allowed the security forces to shoot his voters is a walking corpse.
            An army shooting at its fellow citizens and taxpayers - I don’t even know what to call it. So far, only the White Army is remembered, and its sad fate. This was how the people of Russia had to be brought to crush their most invincible army ... Ukrainians just have not yet cocked to the highest degree.
      2. +5
        13 May 2014 22: 31
        as far as I remember, the DPR will not be a presidential republic, like the LPR, and, accordingly, Novorossia.
      3. mvv
        mvv
        +6
        13 May 2014 23: 03
        the tsar is actively self-promoting, it’s not the fact that he will be chosen, especially since there will be a coalition government. as soon as the banderlogs and army units of the junta are thrown out of the Donbass - only then will it be possible to choose someone somewhere. Well, this someone will organize life in New Russia and also an uprising in the Black Sea region. Otherwise, Kalomoisky and his trained law-abductors will start hitting the border areas.
      4. Reasonable, 2,3
        +4
        14 May 2014 01: 41
        This is the beginning. You don’t seriously think that the west and cattle raised their hands up. Now this pressure will begin. They don’t recognize that the Yaetsensky will run anyway. And gays will raise such a screech.
        1. DimychDV
          +3
          14 May 2014 07: 42
          But there is a reason for concluding agreements and unions. Including military material assistance.
    2. +18
      13 May 2014 21: 15
      the creation of the Federal Republic of New Russia, as well as a paragraph on the preparation for the development of the Constitution of New Russia, which (the federal republic) will initially include the DPR and LPR.

      Unification step by step .. village by village .. Only in any way.! Act .. Russia helps by all means (which so far are possible) ..
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    4. +13
      13 May 2014 21: 23
      The junta is conducting a large-scale battle with the protesters !!!!
      1. +9
        13 May 2014 21: 29
        Something local correspondents too much.
        Valiantly stand and watch, do not care.
        Russia help .......
    5. Validator
      +14
      13 May 2014 22: 05
      Oleg Tsarev, like all of us, was greatly influenced by the events in Odessa. If before that he was a supporter of the federalization of Ukraine, then after - a supporter of the division into Ukraine and New Russia. I hope the victims in Odessa Khatyn will not be in vain, the Old Man is with us, and before that he had an incomprehensible policy of recognizing the junta.
      1. +5
        13 May 2014 22: 32
        Old Man did not lead an incomprehensible policy, Old Man saved the hockey championship. (it started in Minsk on May 8)
    6. +23
      13 May 2014 22: 23
      I'm going so stumbled ...

      1. +9
        13 May 2014 22: 39
        Evdokimov 2.0 I’m coming like that, the face is red .... soldier
    7. +4
      13 May 2014 23: 20
      Odessa must be added here
    8. +1
      14 May 2014 00: 21
      Prosperity and peace of New Russia.

      The most important thing is the unification of all areas!
      Here on this topic is a fresh analysis of intelligence analyst Jacob Kedmi
      1. 0
        14 May 2014 01: 00
        Yes, the predictions are certainly true, frankly, but on the one hand. there is such a word hunger. it is on the other hand. and apparently Russia chose hunger for Ukraine. blocking the gas, I think they won’t turn it on until winter. this is one chance to wait as a sniper waits for days in ambush to make a shot. that is, when a hungry Ukraine itself, I emphasize myself, begins to clear itself of fascism. And here is the answer to why Russia did not send troops. A healthy and smart decision.
        1. +3
          14 May 2014 02: 06
          Quote: v245721
          Yes, the predictions are certainly true, frankly, but on the one hand. there is such a word hunger. it is on the other hand. and apparently Russia chose hunger for Ukraine. blocking the gas, I think they won’t turn it on until winter. this is one chance to wait as a sniper waits for days in ambush to make a shot. that is, when a hungry Ukraine itself, I emphasize myself, begins to clear itself of fascism. And here is the answer to why Russia did not send troops. A healthy and smart decision.

          The United States can safely pay for gas, or a geyropa to complete what has begun more comfortably. This is not the case. and in the amorphousness of the rest of the southeast. I still doubt that they are waiting for the uncle to come and do everything for them. Don't eat brother. it doesn't happen that way.
          There is already one hope for Putin. making the right decisions depends on him. I do not envy him ...
      2. 0
        14 May 2014 01: 20
        Quote: Ross
        Here on this topic is a fresh analysis of intelligence analyst Jacob Kedmi

        Yakov Kedmi is certainly a smart person and you won’t refuse him logic.
        But there is not much different opinion sputnikipogrom.com/russia/12156/war-on-hobbits/
      3. +3
        14 May 2014 03: 01
        Alas, I cannot scold Kedmi, for he expressed an opinion that is extremely similar to my own. If Russia yields, the World will draw conclusions: 1. The USA, as before, "rules"! 2. Russia is not as strong as it is trying to to present (it means it is better to "be friends" with the United States than with Russia) 3.Russia can be "put" in its place by force, threats: it will yield now, it will yield in the future. 4.Russia will lose its recently acquired respect of those countries where historically have always respected and respected the strong. 5. The "fifth column" in Russia will find a "second wind" and new strength. We can only hope for the "formula": "For each of your well-thought-out cunning plans, Russia will respond with unpredictable stupidity and win."
      4. +3
        14 May 2014 06: 45
        Two, (only) in my opinion, the correct thoughts were uttered by Jacob: 1. Nobody cares what will happen to Ukraine. 2. Ukraine is a platform of confrontation between the United States and Russia.
      5. 0
        14 May 2014 18: 59
        An ordinary private opinion, the same as that of our bloggers, not a bit more.
    9. Latvian
      +4
      14 May 2014 00: 23
      Catherine the Great and Prince Potemkin will breathe calmly in the afterlife, and how much blood in history has been shed for our land by grandfathers, great-grandfathers, and now our contemporaries.
      Eternal glory to the dead for New Russia! Death to the Nazis!
    10. +1
      14 May 2014 00: 28
      Something I'm starting to get disappointed with the site. There are such frostbitten comments from misbegotten ones like "Ivan 121212" and are not deleted by the admins. Or is it a manifestation of "freedom of speech" and tolerance? If tolerance comes to the site, then the site was bought by those on whose server it is located! And this does not fit in any way with the idea of ​​the site!
      1. +1
        14 May 2014 01: 16
        Quote: Homo
        Something I'm starting to give up on the site.


        Under each comment there is a "Report violation of site rules" box.
        I think we will not see "Ivan 121212" in the morning, but you can also use the indicated plate, there is nothing wrong with that.
        1. 0
          14 May 2014 01: 51
          Yes, all, Ivan calmed down.
      2. 0
        14 May 2014 01: 51
        Quote: Homo
        and are not deleted by admins


        Deleted.

        Quote: Homo
        If tolerance comes to the site, it means the site was bought by those on whose server it is located! And this already does not fit with the idea of ​​the site!


        Take it easy, mustache be kind!
      3. Reasonable, 2,3
        0
        14 May 2014 02: 07
        And what kind of comment? I did not find.
    11. +2
      14 May 2014 05: 30
      Quote: Monk
      Prosperity and peace of New Russia.

      Here it is already ours. Brothers on the Century. Glory to RUSSIA!
    12. 0
      15 May 2014 11: 06
      Well, with an initiative !!!
  2. Anrie
    +13
    13 May 2014 21: 06
    The right course go comrades!
    1. Validator
      +16
      13 May 2014 21: 20
      Second part of the resolution
  3. +22
    13 May 2014 21: 08
    Brace yourself. The junta will react very painfully to this ... We are waiting for the GDP to move.
    1. Validator
      +11
      13 May 2014 21: 20
      Third part of the resolution
      1. +14
        13 May 2014 22: 21
        And as far as I carefully read there is no paragraph on joining Russia.
        The rest is bravo! All right, everything is clear!
        Hooray New Russia !!!
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        2. +11
          13 May 2014 22: 54
          Quote: Veles75
          there is no clause on joining Russia


          All is clever. Do not dig. Early to Russia immediately. Moscow’s footprint will be obvious. Let them swallow a couple of ties in the west. Then in Russia you can ....
          1. +1
            14 May 2014 04: 41
            Quote: SS68SS
            Quote: Veles75
            there is no clause on joining Russia


            All is clever. Do not dig. Early to Russia immediately. Moscow’s footprint will be obvious. Let them swallow a couple of ties in the west. Then in Russia you can ....

            There is no need to rush in Russia. The DPR and LPR are at war with Ukraine, the war has been unleashed by Ukraine. After legalizing the sovereign state of Novorossia, it is possible to receive appropriate assistance from the Russian Federation and further Novorossia will grow north and west, probably until the complete destruction of fascism in Ukraine.
        3. +1
          15 May 2014 10: 34
          in fact, it’s not so important whether it will become part of Russia or not. It is important by whose rules they will live. According to the documents, they plan to enter the customs union, etc., which essentially means allies. And changing the status of joining is better done at another time, when it is more convenient, and there was no referendum on this subject.
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  4. +37
    13 May 2014 21: 08
    I would like Novorossia to be in full force: with Odessa, Nikolaev, Zaporozhye. I think it will come to them. In the meantime, glory to the newborn Republic!
    1. Validator
      +24
      13 May 2014 21: 22
      The final part of the resolution. This is actually a roadmap for creating the state of New Russia. Other areas no longer need to invent anything themselves, you need to take power and join
      1. MirVlad
        +10
        13 May 2014 22: 21
        fully support! I am for NEWS!
      2. vedross
        +12
        13 May 2014 23: 02
        What a titanic, but necessary work will have to be done in New Russia! It may be somehow to simplify the structure of government ... All these numerous ministries, parliaments, etc. etc., and with them a lot of opinions, contradictions ... I think it makes sense to think about a transitional model of state administration for the period of martial law (which has developed now), which will make it possible to get away from all kinds of numerous parliaments in which there will be various disputes, the opponents of the young state will surely end up there too, which will take some time to constructive processes ... The bulkiness of the state machine in wartime conditions is fatal. An example of Igor Strelkov’s action is a minimum of contradictions, a maximum of information (teams) passing and we see the result.
    2. +17
      13 May 2014 22: 29
      And let's wish the long-suffering Transnistria to become part of New Russia. That would be fair, people deserve it.
      1. +1
        14 May 2014 11: 41
        Quote: Reserve officer
        Transnistria to become part of New Russia. E

        And now Transnistria will begin to help Donetsk in rebuilding the economy.
    3. +1
      14 May 2014 00: 25
      Kherson, Dnepropetrovsk, and I dream Kharkov you forgot. I think by chance.
    4. +1
      14 May 2014 19: 18
      Something I began to doubt in the other regions of Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk. In my opinion everyone was crushed there and they do not allow them to make a noise. In general, there is no information about them.
  5. +8
    13 May 2014 21: 09
    Wait, sir, what Putin will say ...
    1. +38
      13 May 2014 21: 56
      Quote: Roman1970
      Wait, sir, what Putin will say ...

      Novel! What can Putin say ?! He will not say much much, and there is nothing surprising. Look at what they write on the forum and take the middle ground, here is the answer! DNR is not the Crimea. Here we can endlessly discuss and condemn actions and inaction, but we do not know what they have (in the GDP) and the government in their heads. They (the DPR) decided on a referendum and they don’t have a way back, they just say that if the junta didn’t act like they are now, they wouldn’t arrange a referendum. It turns out that they wouldn’t give a stick on the head, they wouldn’t flake. It’s filthy here, go to Russia (I won’t exaggerate, this impression is simple). And where and what did you do 23 years before, when your Ukrainian fascists marched through the streets? Sorry, I accept the cons, but this is my personal opinion! IMHO! PS I personally will be glad if Donetsk and other regions join Russia! Peace to your home and welcome!
      1. +12
        13 May 2014 22: 31
        It is clear that the DPR is not the Crimea ... In Crimea, everything was clear.
        And where and what did you do 23 years before, when your Ukrainian fascists marched through the streets?
        Nobody marched in eastern Ukraine, people lived quietly, and in western ... Yes, there were little debris there until the end of the 50s, they ran through the forests, plus AK men and women together, SVolota abroad ... And ordinary people sat at home my hut with the edge. So with us, too, the majority sits at home. It’s just that we were lucky with Putin, he did not let the country be ruined. And if there was someone like Yeltsin, the khan would have arrived in Russia. Then these NGOs ... Remember, they were in Russia too, they just crushed them on time.
        1. Orc-xnumx
          +4
          13 May 2014 23: 32
          And on Bolotnaya they wanted to make a semblance of a maidan!
    2. +17
      13 May 2014 23: 19
      Wait, sir, what Putin will say ...
  6. Bator79
    +28
    13 May 2014 21: 09
    I think that Putin will not immediately take them into Russia. They will be taken to the Customs Union. And the CU is a prototype of the future of the second USSR.
    1. +19
      13 May 2014 21: 12
      A customs union is also good, but to begin with, these states must be RECOGNIZED. So we wait, sir ...
      1. +5
        13 May 2014 22: 59
        Quote: Roman1970
        The Customs Union is also good, but first, these states must be RECOGNIZED.

        To enter the CU, it is necessary that the UN recognizes, and these problems will be. But it is possible even without entry to conclude unilateral agreements and others. An example of Yu.O., Abkhazia, Transnistria exists. Whatever it was, for any one they will not be lost and there will be help, maybe not right away and not in the right amount, but it will ...
        1. +6
          13 May 2014 23: 39
          Recently, the UN has been acquiring the title of a useless organization that spreads under the United States ... It seems to me that the fate of the League of Nations awaits this "desk" ...
    2. Validator
      +21
      13 May 2014 21: 28
      Quote: Bator79
      I think that Putin will not immediately take them into Russia. They will be taken to the Customs Union. And the CU is a prototype of the future of the second USSR.

      They have already declared their readiness to join the Union State with Russia and Belarus, in the Customs Union, introduce the ruble, abolish border control, etc. God forbid everything will turn out
      1. +5
        13 May 2014 21: 34
        Being prepared and being accepted are two different things. Transnistria is also ready for how many years.
        I bet there will be no recognition.
        1. +8
          13 May 2014 22: 04
          Quote: Banshee
          I bet there will be no recognition.

          Do not be so categorical. In the near future, most likely not, but in the long run it is quite possible. In a month or two. It all depends on the circumstances ...
      2. +12
        13 May 2014 22: 16
        I think it's too early for the Union State. Federative Novorossia should become a "springboard" for the annexation of all southeastern regions. And this is easier to do if Novorossiya is not included anywhere yet. That's when Novorossiya will collect all the southeastern regions then welcome to the Union State.
    3. +3
      14 May 2014 06: 10
      Quote: Bator79
      I think that Putin will not immediately take them into Russia. They will be taken to the Customs Union. And the CU is a prototype of the future of the second USSR.

      Like + 1. And yet ... And yes, and no.
      There is no need to take in its composition, especially immediately. Naturally, at first the TS and immediately, if not earlier, in the CSTO. This is quite enough for them to feel comfortable as an autonomous republic, in the format of the TS, using all the necessary preferences. But at the same time leading its economic policy. For economic sovereignty, the Southeast of the former Ukraine has all the necessary opportunities.

      In addition to Ukraine, the world (and all of us) is on the verge of being very large and not always pleasant or easy to change. There is a global redistribution of spheres of influence, which means that sooner or later fights cannot be avoided. It is unlikely that it will be costly economic leverage, knowing the American habits of writing off debts due to war.
      Most likely, there will be a very tough confrontation between the USA and China. If we succeed in observing all our allied obligations without entering into conflict on our territory, this will be an ideal way out of this situation.

      USSR V2 will not, by its very nature. And even nothing close to this will not be. Those. a change in the social system does not happen. Of course, it is very likely that some NATO-oriented states will break away from the bloc (or break away) and enter the CU, and later the Eurasian Union. There will be a certain enlargement of the territory of the Russian Federation, but not to the borders of the USSR. The point here is that, of course, Russia needs laying between itself and the West, as it always was during the periods of its rise. But with such expenses as the USSR did, in fact, having taken part of the republics for maintenance, Russia will no longer solve this problem. Yes, there will be help / support, but within reasonable limits. All Russian satellites will conduct an independent economic policy. Given the size of the market for the future vehicle, this is quite a feasible task. Of course, at the initial stage, we will take on part of the investment to boost the production of the union states. But it is precisely part and exactly investment, not subsidies.
  7. Arh
    +18
    13 May 2014 21: 12
    Hooray !!! First Stone Laid !!!
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    1. Validator
      +27
      13 May 2014 21: 30
      Quote: Barracuda
      And what about Tsarev? thief swindler. fuck nobody needs him.

      Is there evidence? Then to the studio. If not, then you and nobody will need you. To date, he has proposed a roadmap for creating a state friendly to us, and what did you offer, barracuda?
      1. dik-fort
        +20
        13 May 2014 21: 43
        Tsarev is a worthy courageous person, he can already be respected for this, besides, he has experience in practical legislative work in parliament, understands and knows a lot in state building. There is no need to hang up labels; he already risks getting a death sentence from the junta if he is not already included in the death list.
        1. -11
          14 May 2014 01: 30
          As paid, and played, And where is he now - a political corpse?
      2. -3
        14 May 2014 01: 19
        There is evidence. But just after 5 years no one will remember him. However, even next year. Observe ..
        1. 0
          14 May 2014 19: 31
          Quote: Barracuda
          There is evidence.

          You were asked to substantiate your allegations, if you are not capable, then there is no need to put a shadow on the wattle fence.
          1. 0
            15 May 2014 16: 04
            Why not choose Strelkov?
            Kalomoisky warns Tsarev. Analyze.
            Why is Kalomoisky calling Tsarev at all?

            http://russian.rt.com/article/32025
    2. +15
      13 May 2014 21: 45
      Show me at least one person who has not stolen.
      All at least something small, but they took it.
      I do not believe in people who are pure as a tear, especially in honest politicians.
      In life, you always choose the lesser of evils.
      1. +7
        13 May 2014 22: 24
        Quote: gecko
        Show me at least one person who has not stolen.
        All at least something small, but they took it.
        I do not believe in people who are pure as a tear, especially in honest politicians.
        In life, you always choose the lesser of evils.

        For your information:
        In Soviet times, there was such a concept - thugs, as it were, not really thieves, they simply took from work, on trifles, "what is bad" from the state, seemingly as compensation for wages. So in this category there were 90 percent of the population, excluding babies and deep elders, who can barely move themselves. They said: "I will carry my mother through our checkpoint" and "Everything around the people, everything around me" ... hi
        1. +6
          13 May 2014 22: 42
          Quote: PENZYAC
          In Soviet times, there was such a thing - nesuny


          By the way, tyr - this is what is borne in Old Russian, hence the hero - bearing God (in the soul).
        2. +2
          14 May 2014 01: 01
          At one time he worked at the airport. So there was a saying: "Leaving the airfield, take something for home." True, then I lived in the city of Ashgabat in Turkmenistan.
        3. +1
          14 May 2014 13: 33
          For reference. Nesuns were in Soviet times. They probably still exist. But there is also a difference. In Soviet times, they poked around on trifles not because of criminal inclinations, but because there was simply nowhere else to take this “trifle”. Just steal.

          At one time, my uncle worked in a furniture factory. I tried to write a profile for the fence in the cemetery. He came to the director with an application and was sent far in view of the fact that the profile is funded material ... But since the uncle was old and honored, the director, entering the position, suggested the profile ... to steal. :) And he firmly promised to hush up the incident if it comes across. And funny and sad ...
        4. 0
          14 May 2014 13: 33
          For reference. Nesuns were in Soviet times. They probably still exist. But there is also a difference. In Soviet times, they poked around on trifles not because of criminal inclinations, but because there was simply nowhere else to take this “trifle”. Just steal.

          At one time, my uncle worked in a furniture factory. I tried to write a profile for the fence in the cemetery. He came to the director with an application and was sent far in view of the fact that the profile is funded material ... But since the uncle was old and honored, the director, entering the position, suggested the profile ... to steal. :) And he firmly promised to hush up the incident if it comes across. And funny and sad ...
    3. +2
      13 May 2014 22: 18
      And what is the evidence? Or so-Maidan-Kiev gossip?
    4. Evgeniy1
      +5
      13 May 2014 22: 20
      Rogues, Varangians, Natsik and others are sitting in the interim government of Ukraine!
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    6. 0
      13 May 2014 22: 52
      Make it better - waving your tongue is all healthy.
    7. +6
      13 May 2014 23: 02
      Quote: Barracuda
      And what about Tsarev? thief swindler. fuck nobody needs him.
      I think so, I need it, I don’t need it, it’s later, now all adequate people are needed, there is a lot of work. If a person helps the formation of New Russia, why not?
      1. 0
        13 May 2014 23: 24
        Quote: Alll1
        Quote: Barracuda
        And what about Tsarev? thief swindler. fuck nobody needs him.
        I think so, I need it, I don’t need it, it’s later, now all adequate people are needed, there is a lot of work. If a person helps the formation of New Russia, why not?

        Each person should have the right to change his life - the right to a second chance!
  9. +18
    13 May 2014 21: 14
    Well done people from the Southeast. Despite even the punitive operation, they were able to defend their independence.
  10. Bator79
    +3
    13 May 2014 21: 14
    Quote: Barracuda
    And what about Tsarev? thief swindler. fuck nobody needs him.

    yes you have 99% of those in power there now
    1. +3
      13 May 2014 21: 50
      dear Barakuda actually from the Crimea
      1. +3
        13 May 2014 22: 53
        Quote: archi.sailor
        dear Barakuda actually from the Crimea

        So in the USA there are a lot of good people and hi less.
    2. +1
      13 May 2014 22: 30
      Quote: Bator79
      Quote: Barracuda
      And what about Tsarev? thief swindler. fuck nobody needs him.

      yes you have 99% of those in power there now

      Is there really a whole percentage of honest altruists in power? request
  11. +8
    13 May 2014 21: 15
    Well, good luck!
  12. +11
    13 May 2014 21: 18
    May they succeed with God's and our help!
  13. +6
    13 May 2014 21: 18
    I would like to add a well-known phrase - "The dog barks, the caravan goes"
  14. +16
    13 May 2014 21: 21
    NATO is expanding to the East, and the customs union to the West.
    One of the possible flags of New Russia.
    1. tokin1959
      +16
      13 May 2014 21: 48
      just do not need yellow-blue colors, under this flag, peaceful people were killed.
      People have taken power in their hands and will figure out what flag they need.
      1. +4
        13 May 2014 22: 15
        I don’t agree. The Ukrainian flag and the trident are not to blame for the fact that they were killed under them. The Vlasov army used the St. George ribbon. The Nazis used the swastika, although it is still revered by Buddhists. The Ukrainian flag symbolizes a clear sky and ripened fields, and the trident - the redone coat of arms of Rurik - the attacking falcon. I am for the rehabilitation of the symbols of Ukraine. Otherwise, it will forever become a symbol of the struggle for the revival of Ukraine. And since the entire territory of Novorossia lived 23 years under this symbolism, in the long run this can create problems for several generations. It is not the machine that kills, but the man who clicks on the hook. And what is the fault of the flag and the trident?
        1. +1
          13 May 2014 22: 44
          Quote: Iskander Khan
          I am for the rehabilitation of the symbols of Ukraine. Otherwise, it will forever become a symbol of the struggle for the revival of Ukraine. And since the entire territory of Novorossia lived 23 years under this symbolism, in the long run this can create problems for several generations. It is not the machine that kills, but the man who clicks on the hook. And what is the fault of the flag and the trident?


          Well, then put the bird on a trident?
          1. +1
            13 May 2014 22: 54
            It is not necessary to include them in the new flag and coat of arms. But it is not worth denying and persecuting. For example, for regional political forces. Of course, take a closer look at these. But not everyone who respects the old Ukraine is not patriots of New Russia. For example, I would agree to the detriment of Novorossia to return in the last years of the Kuchma government. Then there was an increase in respect for Ukraine, even in the East. And Yushchenko shattered these hopes to smithereens with his "shame". ... But the symbols are not to blame.
        2. 0
          13 May 2014 22: 57
          Quote: Iskander Khan
          I don’t agree. The Ukrainian flag and the trident are not to blame for the fact that they were killed under them. The Vlasov army used the St. George ribbon. The Nazis used the swastika, although it is still revered by Buddhists. The Ukrainian flag symbolizes a clear sky and ripened fields, and the trident - the redone coat of arms of Rurik - the attacking falcon. I am for the rehabilitation of the symbols of Ukraine. Otherwise, it will forever become a symbol of the struggle for the revival of Ukraine. And since the entire territory of Novorossia lived 23 years under this symbolism, in the long run this can create problems for several generations. It is not the machine that kills, but the man who clicks on the hook. And what is the fault of the flag and the trident?

          Since once Little Russia will do, we will leave it to her. hi
        3. +2
          13 May 2014 23: 13
          Under such a flag and a trident, Bandera fought against their people, so it was initially perceived negatively, like the tricolor.
        4. +1
          14 May 2014 06: 00
          Coat of arms is not to blame !!! Guilty! ! Which, hiding behind them and manipulating the minds of people, destroy, all the brightest and best laid in it !!!! In the meantime, THIS LOOKS SO !!!!
    2. +3
      13 May 2014 22: 55
      A tricolor with a St. George cross in the center like a cyber-ebut offered better.
    3. 0
      14 May 2014 01: 09
      They have already chosen. Ours with the cross of St. George in the middle. Sorry I can’t lay out.
  15. +7
    13 May 2014 21: 22
    With revival and initiative! good
  16. tokin1959
    +15
    13 May 2014 21: 23
    it wouldn’t work like with Transnistria - people have held referenda more than once and have repeatedly appealed to the Russian leadership with a request for admission to the Russian Federation.
    I don’t give a damn what they think in the West, what sanctions they will invent, what inviolability of borders and territorial integrity?
    if they cling to territorial integrity - so let's revive the USSR, Yugoslavia, the Federal Republic of Germany will be divided in two again - after all, the unification of Germany violated the territorial integrity of the GDR.
    The USSR generally dreamed of dividing it into 30-50 states, the West squealed with delight when the USSR Brokeback Plesh collapsed.
    1. Validator
      +10
      13 May 2014 21: 35
      Quote: tokin1959
      it wouldn’t work like with Transnistria

      Transnistria does not have a common border with us, in addition, Novorossia is a completely different scale: 20 million people. So here everything will be different
      1. tokin1959
        +4
        13 May 2014 21: 39
        so what that does not have a common border.
        20 million and 2 million - there is also no difference, people there want to live peacefully, knowing that they are part of a powerful country of the Russian Federation, and not an unrecognized republic, which they will bomb and fire again if they want to.
        1. Validator
          +14
          13 May 2014 21: 55
          Quote: tokin1959
          so what that does not have a common border.
          20 million and 2 million - there is also no difference, people there want to live peacefully, knowing that they are part of a powerful country of the Russian Federation, and not an unrecognized republic, which they will bomb and fire again if they want to.

          Recognizing Transnistria or accepting it before Russia as part of Russia is not possible at all. The result will be a blockade, an economic and humanitarian disaster. But after the Odessa region was admitted to Novorossia, it was a completely different matter. Transnistria has large and trained armed forces, they understand the alignment, so that Odessa remains in Ukraine no more than a few weeks;)
          1. +1
            13 May 2014 22: 29
            As they say, to God’s ears ..
          2. 0
            13 May 2014 23: 35
            Quote: Validator
            Quote: tokin1959
            so what that does not have a common border.
            20 million and 2 million - there is also no difference, people there want to live peacefully, knowing that they are part of a powerful country of the Russian Federation, and not an unrecognized republic, which they will bomb and fire again if they want to.

            Recognizing Transnistria or accepting it before Russia as part of Russia is not possible at all. The result will be a blockade, an economic and humanitarian disaster. But after the Odessa region was admitted to Novorossia, it was a completely different matter. Transnistria has large and trained armed forces, they understand the alignment, so that Odessa remains in Ukraine no more than a few weeks;)

            I hope you are right about Odessa ...
        2. 0
          14 May 2014 00: 23
          Quote: tokin1959
          and not an unrecognized republic, which if they want to - will be bombed and fired again.

          And who dares, there are Russian peacekeepers. It will be the same as declaring war on Russia. While ours are there, they should not be particularly afraid of a military attack.
          And as for the accession of Prednistria, the Russian Federation has long and clearly stated under what conditions this will be done, even unilaterally.
        3. +1
          14 May 2014 01: 21
          Our peacekeepers will not allow the bombing. Have you ever wondered why some villages in Moldova ask to be added to Transnistria? Ours help. But the common border is a dream. I hope the sale !!!
    2. Rblipetsk
      +6
      13 May 2014 21: 40
      Quote: tokin1959
      it wouldn’t work like with Transnistria -

      everything has its time. quickly, as you know, only cats will be born ...
      1. tokin1959
        +10
        13 May 2014 21: 51
        Crimea over metsyats became part of the Russian Federation, with the help of polite green men.
        And here people themselves decided and asked to be part of the Russian Federation, and the green men did not help them in this.
        on a platter, so to speak, present their territories of the Russian Federation
    3. +1
      13 May 2014 22: 09
      Yes there will no longer smell like sanctions - gunpowder!
    4. +15
      13 May 2014 22: 18
      Transnistria was not accepted due to the lack of a common border. I think now Russia and Kaliningrad would not have accepted if it had not already owned. And if Zaporozhye, Kherson, Nikolaev, Odessa will enter Novorossia, then Pridnestrovie will freely enter. Glory to the New Russia!
      1. +1
        13 May 2014 22: 48
        Quote: Iskander Khan
        when Pridnestrovie will freely enter.

        Even if it does not enter immediately, the common border will solve all the economic problems of the region. What is not less important...
    5. +4
      13 May 2014 22: 51
      Quote: tokin1959
      it wouldn’t work like with Transnistria
      ...

      While Pridnestrovie de jure is considered part of Moldova, the latter can neither join the EU nor NATO, even through Romania, and to protect independence de facto Russian troops are located there. hi
      I think it will be so until Moldova fools around with Romanianization. They found the same for me to follow, earlier Romania was not even among the social countries, it was considered sucks, only Albania was worse. Romania earlier for happiness was itself to join Moldova on the basis of autonomy. am
      1. -1
        14 May 2014 01: 38
        Romanian troops helped us near Stalingrad. With their weakness and dead soul.
  17. +3
    13 May 2014 21: 26
    Most likely, it will not work right away, there are too many political nuances, and it’s too expensive for the budget, although you never know exactly what course to expect from GDP.
  18. +13
    13 May 2014 21: 35
    Hammers brothers Novorossa!
    1. +4
      13 May 2014 22: 23
      God, what a heavy clip. How much do we endure this world? Why is there such hatred for us? Is there really Good and Evil?
      1. +2
        14 May 2014 01: 48
        Alas, it looks like this is our plan. Anglo-Saxons will never calm down. Until we reassure them.
    2. 0
      14 May 2014 01: 44
      Thanks for the song and the clip. Already wept.
  19. Manul49
    +7
    13 May 2014 21: 36
    In unity is power! Well done!
  20. parus2nik
    +10
    13 May 2014 21: 37
    an appeal to Russia and Belarus to accept the FRN as part of the Union State, plus an appeal to Kazakhstan - to accept New Russia into a single customs space ...
    It’s very thin .. without sneak .. and not part of Russia, but with Russia .. The union state has not been canceled .. Why not ... By the way, the Rivne region held a referendum on joining the EU, During the Maidan and the majority voted in favor ..
  21. Rblipetsk
    +14
    13 May 2014 21: 40
    well. with birth! love the peanut, by the way, is getting sturdy. I didn’t have time to be born, let’s junt on knocking knocks. keep it up! drinks
  22. waisson
    +22
    13 May 2014 21: 41
    well done let them all be fine
  23. +11
    13 May 2014 21: 43
    New Russia should expand to the borders of: Poland, Hungary and Romania.
    1. +6
      13 May 2014 22: 22
      It would be nice. But the main thing is to release Transnistria.
    2. +5
      13 May 2014 22: 25
      Only through SELF-AWARENESS - awareness of who we are! Example: dill gangsters, they are NOT RUSSIAN, and the dogs are rootless, demons, monsters in human guise.
      Slavs, unite! Yes, fascism must be ended!
    3. +12
      13 May 2014 22: 26
      I suggest to Greenland. Leave it for refugees from the geyropeyskoy part of New Russia. I think the flag of New Russia will not look bad on the Big Ben. Even the Americans will see.
      1. 0
        14 May 2014 02: 28
        I propose to ask Ramzan to assemble a team for the next Eurovision. A very large choir is desirable. Citizens of RUSSIA have the right to defend the honor of RUSSIA.
    4. tigers4
      0
      14 May 2014 17: 42
      Not worth it. Let Ukraine go west.
  24. +11
    13 May 2014 21: 43
    Peace and prosperity, New Russia! You are well done.
  25. Leshka
    +5
    13 May 2014 21: 49
    good luck to them in this not easy accomplishment
  26. SBC
    SBC
    +3
    13 May 2014 21: 49
    I hope that with the construction of the LPR and the DPR will not help iPhone and Zhirik.
    1. +1
      13 May 2014 22: 35
      Zhirik current ammo can promise. smile
    2. 0
      13 May 2014 23: 18
      I hope Novorossia will succeed in building a truly democratic and dynamic (not ossified mono-party, with old-timers, demagogues and opportunists led, which, unfortunately, the USSR was) a spiritually multinational state without the dominance of oligarchs, corrupt officials and nepotism, which will become an example and reproach to the authorities of the Russian Federation. I hope we will be equal to New Russia!
    3. AVIATOR36662
      +1
      14 May 2014 01: 31
      Firstly, VVP and LADIES are one team, it was not created yesterday and is working perfectly all the time. Secondly, VVZh has never "worked" against VVP. It is necessary to monitor the work of the SM and the Duma so as not to carry such youthful nonsense. The LADY was SUPREME COMMANDER 08.08.08. We must not forget, and young people should know this. A VVZH is simply the best "agit-industrial" conductor of Russian policy.
  27. +6
    13 May 2014 21: 50
    Well done! Well, what can I say. Equip your life so that it is normal for everyone. Peace and tranquility to you on your land!
  28. +5
    13 May 2014 22: 00
    Now this is something. More verified and documented. That's right, in compliance with all the rules of the law. We are not tangible and respect international law. Good luck men in building a friendly state of Russia. Well, for our part, we will help in this construction by all legal means. Sincerely.
  29. +1
    13 May 2014 22: 06
    Glory to the Gods !!!!!!!!
    1. +1
      13 May 2014 22: 23
      God be with us all who are in favor of New Russia!
  30. Ivan 63
    0
    13 May 2014 22: 10
    Well, Russia does not have any relations with the remaining Zapadenshchina and other Chukhons, this is required by the memory of those killed in the Great Patriotic War.
  31. 0
    13 May 2014 22: 12
    If they are Russian, then where does the Union State? Isn't Russia enough?
    1. Validator
      +2
      13 May 2014 22: 21
      Quote: Tektor
      If they are Russian, then where does the Union State? Isn't Russia enough?

      There, nevertheless, not only Russians, but also some Ukrainians, especially in the Dnieper, Kherson and Odessa. The Union State is the optimal and no offensive form of the Union; adequate, invisible Ukrainians will not object to it in their entirety. This means that it will be possible not to be limited to only 8 areas, but to move on, especially after the economic collapse there
    2. +2
      13 May 2014 23: 51
      Quote: Tektor
      If they are Russian, then where does the Union State? Isn't Russia enough?

      Do not drive horses, everything has its own time, each vegetable has its own time, etc. So understandable?
  32. +3
    13 May 2014 22: 13
    The junta is furious and ponte. The end is near. And here, step by step, what we need happens.
  33. kelevra
    +2
    13 May 2014 22: 20
    I’m wondering that the referendum was held, as if they had become independent, but the Ukrainian troops are still coming and fighting! What should I do? They will ask for help from Russia or someone else, or they will try to change something on their own! Some kind of awkward pause has arrived!
  34. +6
    13 May 2014 22: 25
    calm down, Uncle Vova knows what to do.
  35. +15
    13 May 2014 22: 29
    I’m joking at work that I’ve never changed my residence permit, I have already changed three countries: the USSR, Ukraine and the DPR. Now there will be a fourth - New Russia. And there you look and Russia will mature until the fifth winked .
    1. +1
      13 May 2014 22: 46
      I'm just joking here, but not about registration, but about the country of belonging - "phaserland" .. Few people understand :)
    2. 0
      14 May 2014 02: 40
      For not where not moving how many countries have seen. A joke of humor.
  36. +2
    13 May 2014 22: 33
    The main thing now is not so much the inclusion of the New Republics in Russia as their direct protection, but it can be implemented as for example in South Ossetia - the peoples of the New Republics under the protectorate of the Russian UN forces (peacekeepers).
  37. +32
    13 May 2014 22: 34
    Today the militia fighter Sergey Grishin (Makeevka) died
    He joined the NOD from the first day.
    Everyone who knew him said that he was kind, cheerful, positive.
    Thanks to him for protecting us!
    Eternal memory to the hero!
    DO NOT FORGET, DO NOT FORGIVE FASCISTS!
    Rest in peace...
    1. +8
      13 May 2014 22: 58
      Rest in peace, fellow countryman ...
    2. +8
      13 May 2014 23: 22
      ETERNAL MEMORY OF A HERO!
    3. +5
      13 May 2014 23: 44
      It seems to me that Strelkov needs a book of those who fell in battles with the Nazis from 11.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX to ..... to start - in order to hand it over to Shoigu after the operation is completed. Muzhiks and their families should be considered military personnel who died defending their homeland, with all the consequences.
      I think not a single Russian (I mean all our nationalities) will not mind, but only approve.
    4. Karen
      +1
      13 May 2014 23: 50
      Eternal memory HERO !!!
    5. +1
      14 May 2014 02: 45
      ETERNAL MEMORY !!! May the earth rest in peace !!! Eternal memory to the heroes who died protecting us !!!
  38. SVD
    +4
    13 May 2014 22: 39
    Quote: Roman1970
    Wait, sir, what Putin will say ...

    We must remember that in modern wars, not the one with the most aircraft carriers wins, but the one who has better thought out the strategy, you need to be patient, the potatoes in the garden and it does not grow in a week.
  39. 0
    13 May 2014 22: 40
    With the birth of the federal republic, you are friends, we hope to expand to the entire South East. Although you scold me, at least beat but from Tsarev the president is the same as from dictator from Yanukovych.
  40. +15
    13 May 2014 22: 44
    Ukrainian paraphernalia is already being cleaned. Personnel, the recent Crimea resemble ...
    Hello, Donetsk Republic! Makeevka city May 13, 2014
    1. +6
      13 May 2014 23: 03
      The coat of arms, I think, should be placed in the museum of local lore. Tea is not barbarians. You need to remember even about the failed pages of history. We still have to warn the next generation how the division of Russians might end.
      1. 0
        13 May 2014 23: 29
        Consider these authorities ruined the country: Hungary and Romania already have plans for a part of Ukraine, the Poles are still silent, but if the Bandera members want to strengthen their power, they will also tear off a piece. JV Stalin revived Russia, and three alcoholics under the leadership of a US agent drank the USSR on drink. Jews are now selling and plundering Ukraine. I am an internatiolist, but now among the Kiev "leadership" there is not one Ukrainian or Russian by nationality.
      2. 0
        13 May 2014 23: 39
        Quote: Iskander Khan
        We still have to warn the next generation how the division of Russians might end.

        The main thing is not to forget your roots, to honor the memory of their great ancestors, their exploits and accomplishments, to be proud of this and most importantly to teach your children about it. Only the rootless dogs become right-handed and betray those with whom they live side by side.
  41. 0
    13 May 2014 22: 49
    Not a bad article on Military Materials:
    http://warfiles.ru/show-55718-putin-zastavil-evropu-priznat-novorossiyu.html
    This is about Russia's alleged plans. It is quite possible scenario, although the article is "slightly" outdated.
  42. Gen13
    +2
    13 May 2014 22: 50
    Of course, I may be wrong. But the Tsarev causes some doubt. Something he does not inspire confidence.
    1. AVIATOR36662
      0
      14 May 2014 01: 43
      Here at the junta from Kiev, he certainly did not arouse confidence! And the whole world saw it. Are you with the junta? And the whole SE trusts him. We will respect the opinion of the whole SE. By the way, Renat Akhmetov is conducting a very constructive policy. The oligarch from SE, understands the hopelessness of the junta. Someone also does not like it at first. You do not have to be Sharikovs.
    2. 0
      14 May 2014 03: 09
      It is not for us to decide. The people of NEW RUSSIA will decide.
  43. +9
    13 May 2014 22: 50
    Quote: Russ69
    Today the militia fighter Sergey Grishin (Makeevka) died
    He joined the NOD from the first day.
    Everyone who knew him said that he was kind, cheerful, positive.
    Thanks to him for protecting us!
    Eternal memory to the hero!
    DO NOT FORGET, DO NOT FORGIVE FASCISTS!
    Rest in peace...

    Eternal memory to such guys! But the fascists, sooner or later, outweigh everyone!
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  45. leo44
    +3
    13 May 2014 23: 03
    Wow, it turns out we have a Union State! It exists on Vika, but why do I hear about it for the first time? Did anyone else know about this?
    The rest of the article is going according to plan.
    Of course, the punitive operation must be stopped and all those guilty punished! We were also pleased with the appeal of our State Duma on this topic - for a long time it was necessary, pleased that all factions supported.
    Conclusion: for peace in Ukraine and for the new Union-2014 !!! (though he will not be socialist, alas).
    We are waiting in line: ANR (Alas People’s Republic).
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    1. +4
      14 May 2014 00: 07
      Quote: Ivan121212
      Quote: Russ69
      Today the militia fighter Sergey Grishin (Makeevka) died
      He joined the NOD from the first day.
      Everyone who knew him said that he was kind, cheerful, positive.
      Thanks to him for protecting us!
      Eternal memory to the hero!
      DO NOT FORGET, DO NOT FORGIVE FASCISTS!
      Rest in peace...


      ABOUT! How well I entered ...

      Do not gloat, you, Bandera, I hope you do not live to see your old age and get out of here, do not trash the forum with your presence, otherwise it already stinks of you, you are rootless, and change the Russian name to Polish or impudently Saksky! am
    2. +1
      14 May 2014 00: 08
      Brand emphasis Bandera. Threats to the family of the hero of Donbass. They only say that a dog that barks a lot rarely bites.
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    4. Shoma-1970
      +1
      14 May 2014 01: 53
      Hey you 1212! if you sheep could guide them you would not sit at the monitor and get cons, all participants in the conversation are sure that you have no brains and spirit! You’re not shy about your family, you’ll tell me your sheep’s advice, take off your pants and put on a skirt and stand next to the conchita, there is such a place!
    5. 0
      14 May 2014 02: 32
      you are a fascist 3adro0cheny!
      Shut up your rotten mouth and pi3dy on your cheetahs, and then with such pi3dolstvo and before them it is not up to you lame !!!
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    1. +7
      13 May 2014 23: 14
      Come, come. Here people like you are already waiting. And then the forks began to rust.
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        2. +1
          14 May 2014 00: 47
          such as you are one road to the grave, you are not worth the attention to respond to you.
        3. Shoma-1970
          +1
          14 May 2014 01: 56
          where the moderators are looking to shut up this eb..y tweeter1212 ?!
          1. 0
            14 May 2014 04: 55
            It is necessary to ban these fascists: ALLL1 and Ivan121212.
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        1. +1
          13 May 2014 23: 26
          And you make me. Or unbearable?
        2. +2
          13 May 2014 23: 26
          Someone hurts ... You can see a bird (rooster) on the flight
        3. +2
          13 May 2014 23: 50
          This is your acting blue president and fascist Jews sponsor, and the guard is attacking the ambulance .... I can continue for a very long time. am
        4. +2
          14 May 2014 00: 13
          Quote: Ivan121212
          Close the part, P.id.aras.

          The level of intelligence is understandable ... smile
          You can not continue ...
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        6. 0
          14 May 2014 03: 16
          WHO p.id.aras? Your brother is sweet. And you with him. So who are you?
      3. 0
        13 May 2014 23: 52
        Don't put a minus. The guy just quotes "Ivan121212". You put your cons.
      4. +2
        14 May 2014 00: 12
        Good minus is a quote
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    3. +1
      13 May 2014 23: 29
      Look at the dill as if you were not combed by a sapper.
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  48. Ivan121212
    -23
    13 May 2014 23: 12
    Quote: Giant thought
    Well done! Well, what can I say. Equip your life so that it is normal for everyone. Peace and tranquility to you on your land!


    They will all die. Very soon.
    1. +10
      13 May 2014 23: 22
      Ivan121212, and you yourself are not Semekhin Evgeny for an hour? Isn't it for Wurst to break? Bolotov was wounded, but he will return, and as you were incapacitated, you will remain. Go to Lugansk Square and tell about your rights to the indivisibility of Ukraine. Or s.s.k.o.s.?
      I ask Admins to delete my answer with a comment Ivan121212. Sorry for the violation. Thank you for understanding.
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        1. Shoma-1970
          0
          14 May 2014 02: 03
          You to your own Nazi trident! am
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        1. Shoma-1970
          0
          14 May 2014 02: 02
          Yes, everything is in order with the censorship! and although cowards can be so!
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    3. 0
      14 May 2014 00: 37
      "Ivan121212 DE Yesterday, 23:07
      Quote: Russ69
      Today the militia fighter Sergey Grishin (Makeevka) died
      He joined the NOD from the first day.
      Everyone who knew him said that he was kind, cheerful, positive.
      Thanks to him for protecting us!
      Eternal memory to the hero!
      DO NOT FORGET, DO NOT FORGIVE FASCISTS!
      Rest in peace...


      ABOUT! How well I got in. So Sergei Grishin (Makeevka). Excellent! I need to visit my family. For the killed seven paratroopers must be answered. Co. L. Joy should remember that their death is often not the worst thing that awaits them ahead ... "


      Shut your mouth, soon you will be torn between Romania, Moldova, Poland, then you’ll be right to pump your am
    4. Shoma-1970
      +1
      14 May 2014 02: 00
      You come from a gay-plow fagot! He will show you something else, fascists!
  49. Ivan121212
    -18
    13 May 2014 23: 17
    Quote: Iskander Khan
    Come, come. Here people like you are already waiting. And then the forks began to rust.

    What can you do? Well, threaten the forum.
    1. +3
      13 May 2014 23: 25
      Slam your mouth!
    2. Validator
      +4
      13 May 2014 23: 32
      Quote: Ivan121212
      Quote: Iskander Khan
      Come, come. Here people like you are already waiting. And then the forks began to rust.

      What can you do? Well, threaten the forum. And that’s all. Life is more expensive ... ch.moR.ashka will not help you. She herself will die soon.

      Well, for starters, we’ll throw you out of here with such insults - guys minus this crap from the censor and complain to the administrators about it, it violates the rules of the site. And for this guy - a hero from Makeevka, seven Natsiks have already answered, and this is only according to official data.
      1. +3
        13 May 2014 23: 58
        I read an article that those 102 deserters from Zhitomir are the national guards who died near Slavyansk. It's just that the authorities keep silent and write off the losses as dithering, so as not to answer to their parents. Parents of the Ukrainian army, check with the children where they are. And then they will be "written off" as dithers.
      2. +1
        14 May 2014 01: 37
        Quote: Validator
        complain about it to administrators, it violates the rules of the site


        No need to complain. I see everything like that.
    3. +3
      13 May 2014 23: 51
      smile I can go to Lenin Square in Donetsk and shout "Glory to New Russia!" and there will be nothing but approval. And you?
      1. +2
        13 May 2014 23: 58
        Quote: Iskander Khan
        smile I can go to Lenin Square in Donetsk and shout "Glory to New Russia!" and there will be nothing but approval. And you?

        And I, too, can go out in Surgut and shout "Glory to Western Siberia! Or Russia!" "Glory to the oil and gas workers!" So what? Will offer drinks or go to sleep. And try to shout with us "like on knives ..." you won't walk five meters!
        1. +2
          14 May 2014 00: 05
          So you can't go for knives with us. And we are proud of Novorossiya. I answer "Ivan121212" to the question, what can I do. The trick is that Novorossia is nowhere recognized, except for its territory, but this is enough for me to feel like one of my own. And the same "Ivan121212", despite the recognition of Ukraine, will not be able to say "Glory to Ukraine!" in Donetsk or Lugansk. Afraid. Even if he is not touched (And he most likely will not be touched).
          1. 0
            14 May 2014 00: 24
            Iskander! Yes, I understand you perfectly! Just while the post cheated and went smoking, everything was fixed. I understand you, good luck and peaceful sky! Hold on and welcome to the near future! good drinks
          2. 0
            15 May 2014 16: 08
            He is not Ivan, but Ivan.
            Sent Cossack.
    4. +3
      13 May 2014 23: 56
      How much money does the world need there - a minimum of billions of 70 greens, but what are you going to calculate?
      What do you have fat heroes besides asses that is?
      Bandera with Hitler in hell chokes, the Nazis in an embrace with blue and finances everything a Jew and roofs a niger.
      Zoo. am
    5. +1
      14 May 2014 00: 16
      Quote: Ivan121212
      Quote: Iskander Khan
      Come, come. Here people like you are already waiting. And then the forks began to rust.

      What can you do? Well, threaten the forum ...

      Not me, others will send you to Bandera ... Do you still have nightmares at night still?
    6. 0
      14 May 2014 02: 53
      but you can comb your beard, put on a dress and sing on the gayvision or on the gay parade, because you are welcome!
      So, sleep K O N H AND T (ETERNAL DREAM) !!!
    7. 0
      14 May 2014 03: 24
      And you g ** yes judging by the flag already sold to the Germans !!! How do you wash pots for Fritz? W ** lick, are Ger and Frau happy?
  50. +3
    13 May 2014 23: 26
    New Russia? Yes, whatever you like, just don’t give up. The Yankees are starting to link.
  51. Ivan121212
    -16
    13 May 2014 23: 27
    Quote: sinukvl
    Slam your mouth!



    1. +2
      13 May 2014 23: 34
      And people like you still blather something about the high culture of Banderlogs? You know, I would like to send you, but I see you are already returning from there!
    2. +2
      14 May 2014 00: 10
      Ignore the little one. I stopped using such swear words when I was 14. Admins! Awww. Pay attention to the youngster under the nickname "Ivan121212". He could also ruin our ratings.
      1. 0
        14 May 2014 01: 34
        And I get fines for veiled, rare and appropriate swearing. Moderators AU!
        1. 0
          14 May 2014 01: 38
          Don't shout, I'm working.
          1. 0
            14 May 2014 01: 44
            Hey. Thank.
            No, just read this scumbag. Finally!
            1. 0
              14 May 2014 01: 56
              Hey.
              I have 2 nights. I'll be reading this again...
  52. +6
    13 May 2014 23: 30
    Quote: tech laughter
    I would like to add a well-known phrase - "The dog barks, the caravan goes"

    You can put it a little differently - the dogs are barking, the caravan is moving on.
    Ivan121212 “What can you do? Well, you threaten on the forum. And that’s all. Life is more valuable... the hell won’t help you. She’ll die soon.”
    Ay pug, know she is strong, that she barks at an elephant...
  53. dron1945
    +4
    13 May 2014 23: 33
    Quote: Ivan121212
    ABOUT! How lucky I came. This means Sergey Grishin (Makeevka). Great! Need to visit family. We need to answer for the killed seven paratroopers. Colleagues must remember that their death is often not the worst thing that awaits them ahead...


    This is what distinguishes Russians from Bendera’s people in that, having destroyed fascism and the fascists, they did not destroy the German people, but in a destroyed country they fed German children...
    Although fascist atrocities are forever in our memory...

    1. +2
      14 May 2014 00: 14
      The caravan should not get involved with dogs that bark at it. Don't pay attention to "Ivan121212". Minus the rating. I think the admins will delete it in the morning.
  54. Ivan121212
    -13
    13 May 2014 23: 34
    Quote: Diter
    Quote: tech laughter
    I would like to add a well-known phrase - "The dog barks, the caravan goes"

    You can put it a little differently - the dogs are barking, the caravan is moving on.

    1. +2
      13 May 2014 23: 36
      You will open your mouth at the dentist.
      1. +4
        13 May 2014 23: 38
        There's an ass instead of a mouth laughing
  55. Gen13
    +4
    13 May 2014 23: 43
    Block the addict.
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    1. +4
      14 May 2014 00: 17
      You're the one who's funny. Not a single coherent word. Fountain of swearing, as if yesterday's rancid vinaigrette was vomited.
  57. +2
    13 May 2014 23: 48
    Quote: Gen13
    Block the addict.

    Yes, we have already sent a complaint.
  58. Ivan121212
    -10
    13 May 2014 23: 50
    Quote: Vixen
    Quote: Gen13
    Block the addict.

    Yes, we have already sent a complaint.


    So I'll log in under a different nickname. I will troll Russian-Nazis until you run away from here.
    1. +2
      14 May 2014 00: 21
      Do not worry. I don’t mind putting downvotes on you under any nickname. Write at night while the admins are sleeping. From morning to evening you will be moderated. And you still won’t be able to troll better than Putin. I’ve already trolled Crimea and Novorossiya. And what did your reader say?
      1. +1
        14 May 2014 01: 42
        Well, it’s like I’m here at night. This time.
        Logging in under a different nickname will not help. That's two.
  59. DPN
    +2
    13 May 2014 23: 50
    It looks like building socialist-type republics with a human face, otherwise there would be no need to fence the garden. What are our oligarchs, what the heck, horseradish is not sweeter than radishes. Perhaps the Russian people will still have to learn from them.
  60. dron1945
    +4
    13 May 2014 23: 50
    As for Novorossiya, I would forget about parliaments and other crap during the transition period; at the time of the formation of statehood, a military dictator is needed, as the most effective form of government in a war period...
    And once it calms down, then power will be transferred to the people's representatives.
    Otherwise they won't survive..

    And I don’t have an unequivocal attitude towards Tsarev, he got punched in the face, like a martyr, but he doesn’t have a backbone... and where it’s warmer, that’s where he’ll be, now I’ve felt a new wind and it’s near Novorossiya, it’ll blow stronger on the other side, it’ll be there..
    1. 0
      14 May 2014 03: 40
      There’s no need for Tsarev to speak and fight on TV almost every day since the Maidan in RUSSIA. It’s not for us to judge him. The people of NOVOROSSIYA will choose.
  61. Gen13
    +2
    13 May 2014 23: 51
    How many doses did you take? It's time to go to the drug bed with lifelong residence. Even after 5 liters the water bottles don’t reach this level. Copy and paste.
  62. +2
    13 May 2014 23: 51
    from Banderlogs they blather through V.O. on ours. That's all they can do, and they repeat it all the time.
  63. +1
    13 May 2014 23: 51
    No, I still can’t understand why they are talking about a federal state. device?
    A federal structure is beneficial in large areas where there is a diverse ethnic composition of the population (as, for example, in the Russian Federation, the USA, the UAE). In Novorossia, the ethnic composition is, in principle, homogeneous, and their territory is not so vast, even if we take into account that in the future it will include the Kherson, Nikolaev, Kharkov and Odessa regions. And it would be even more stupid to talk about the prospective admission of the Novorossiysk Federation into the Russian Federation. A federation within a federation is something out of the ordinary.

    Well, maybe I'm wrong. Still, I’m not a political scientist. In any case, let's hope that their sovereignty will benefit them.

    P.S. I would like to add one more thing. Ideally, from my sofa point of view, the state. the device must be unitary. It is not at all necessary to become part of the Russian Federation - a union state, a customs union, and soon the Eurasian Union, and then the confederation will reunite into a federation by 2050. Sooner or later we will unite anyway :)
    1. +2
      14 May 2014 00: 28
      I don't agree. The federation is needed to elect local governors. In Ukraine they are prescribed. That is, a certain Eugei (no offense to normal Jews) Kalomoisky with Nazi views and habits in pro-Russian Dnepropetrovsk. Imagine Dudayev in 94 as governor, for example, in the Leningrad region. Something like this. And it is necessary to join Russia within 5 years, so that the Americans do not have time to push their dogs into power in Novorossia and Russia, in our person, does not receive Ukraine-2 years in 10-15.
  64. Ivan121212
    -12
    13 May 2014 23: 51
    Quote: DPN
    It looks like building socialist-type republics with a human face, otherwise there would be no need to fence the garden. What are our oligarchs, what the heck, horseradish is not sweeter than radishes. Perhaps the Russian people will still have to learn from them.

    It won’t be necessary, because the Donetsk region will last a maximum of two weeks without subsidies from Kyiv. Figure out the rest yourself.
    1. Escander_84
      +2
      14 May 2014 00: 06
      I remember the guys in Lugansk and Donetsk have been holding out much longer!!! And even you “devils” are being seriously bullied!
    2. +3
      14 May 2014 00: 31
      smile Offiderzein, small. In two weeks, Yulia will begin the third revolution in Kyiv. Figure it out yourself. This thought makes me run out of imagination. I just feel sorry for the people of Kiev.
      1. +1
        14 May 2014 03: 45
        The people of Kiev themselves are to blame when they handed over the cobblestones and shouted “they are children.”
  65. Ivan121212
    -9
    13 May 2014 23: 56
    Quote: DerSamowar
    No, I still can’t understand why they are talking about a federal state. device?
    A federal structure is beneficial in large areas where there is a diverse ethnic composition of the population (as, for example, in the Russian Federation, the USA, the UAE). In Novorossia, the ethnic composition is, in principle, homogeneous, and their territory is not so vast, even if we take into account that in the future it will include the Kherson, Nikolaev, Kharkov and Odessa regions. And it would be even more stupid to talk about the prospective admission of the Novorossiysk Federation into the Russian Federation. A federation within a federation is something out of the ordinary.

    Well, maybe I'm wrong. Still, I’m not a political scientist. In any case, let's hope that their sovereignty will benefit them.


    No, you noticed everything correctly. It’s just that there were only drug addicts and alcoholics gathered there. They misunderstand such subtleties. Although they understand one thing, that they have two roads, either to or to the Lukyanovskoye pre-trial detention center.
  66. dron1945
    +3
    13 May 2014 23: 58
    Quote: Ivan121212
    The Russians themselves became fascists, so your thoughts about fascism are ridiculous... H.ail Pu.tler!!!


    I’m far from a Putin supporter, but that’s not the point..
    At least tell me where is fascism? What fascist actions are we carrying out here? very interesting..

    Your Yulia, for example, wants to destroy the Russians, and this is every fifth citizen of Ukraine...
  67. +3
    14 May 2014 00: 02
    Quote: dron1945
    Quote: Ivan121212
    The Russians themselves became fascists, so your thoughts about fascism are ridiculous... H.ail Pu.tler!!!


    I’m far from a Putin supporter, but that’s not the point..
    At least tell me where is fascism? What fascist actions are we carrying out here? very interesting..

    Your Yulia, for example, wants to destroy the Russians, and this is every fifth citizen of Ukraine...

    Don't pay any attention to him. He said that he would be here even under a different nickname. Mold and fungi also live everywhere.
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    1. +1
      14 May 2014 00: 37
      Quote: Ivan121212
      Crimea was occupied?

      Yeah, they “occupied”... Without firing a single shot, with the full support of the population and the majority of the army moving under the flag of the “occupiers”.
      Quote: Ivan121212
      Yes. Do you want to start a war in Ukraine?

      We would like to, we did it a long time ago, but while Ukraine is at war with its people...
    2. 0
      14 May 2014 00: 53
      your brothers.....probably because they have no brains.....
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  71. +4
    14 May 2014 00: 06
    Ivan 121212 answer a simple question, but with reason:
    Has at least one candidate explained how he will get the country out of its financial ass?
    How will you teach smart specialists by banning the Russian language - when there are no smart technical textbooks for universities in the language?
    What is the point of abandoning the Russian language when it is one of the languages ​​of international communication along with English and French?
    How will your children communicate with Latvians, for example, in Latvian and Latvian, and how will you understand each other?
    And why does the West sing praises to you and the rabbit, having arrived in the USA, received dry rations, in Europe 0,5 billion euros, despite the fact that you steal 1,5 lard of green gas every month? hi
    1. Ruskiye
      0
      16 May 2014 19: 21
      You mixed everything up.

      There are no sensible technical programs in Russian. All worthwhile literature is in English. Maybe books published during the union are still nothing.
      Throughout the world, English is the official language of science. Unfortunately, after Crimea, the Russian language became only the internal language of the Russian Federation.
  72. Ivan121212
    -5
    14 May 2014 00: 10
    Quote: Anisim1977
    Ivan 121212 answer a simple question, but with reason:
    Has at least one candidate explained how he will get the country out of its financial ass?
    How will you teach smart specialists by banning the Russian language - when there are no smart technical textbooks for universities in the language?
    What is the point of abandoning the Russian language when it is one of the languages ​​of international communication along with English and French?
    How will your children communicate with Latvians, for example, in Latvian and Latvian, and how will you understand each other?
    And why does the West sing praises to you and the rabbit, having arrived in the USA, received dry rations, in Europe 0,5 billion euros, despite the fact that you steal 1,5 lard of green gas every month? hi

    It’s good that Dr. Goebbels suffered a heart attack, otherwise he would have driven you into anti-Ukrainian psychosis. Every word is complete nonsense and nonsense. There is not even anything to comment on.
    1. Validator
      +4
      14 May 2014 00: 20
      Guys, don’t feed the troll Ivan 121212. This is a stupid person, an ordinary product of Ukrosmi. You won’t learn anything about Ukraine and Ukrainians from him, it’s just Ukrainian national propaganda. Now he will be blocked, if he comes out again, do not answer or try to discuss, immediately complain to the admins and block him.
      1. +1
        14 May 2014 03: 50
        What a Ukrainian he is, look at his flag. The litter is German. And most likely “an officer’s daughter.” So black.
    2. +2
      14 May 2014 00: 36
      Ivan121212 simply doesn’t know Russian himself. This disease is dyslexia. It collects individual icons in a heap, but does not catch the overall meaning.
  73. Ivan121212
    -9
    14 May 2014 00: 11
    In Ukraine, no one has ever abandoned the Russian language. Dot. Everything else is a lie from Dr. Goebbels.
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  75. Gen13
    +2
    14 May 2014 00: 12
    Ivan121212 What have you achieved with all this? Lost production, haven’t paid wages for 2-3 months, state debt is 70% or more. They didn’t build anything, they just stole everything that was left to you from the USSR. And pay the IMF 20 - 40 years of debt.
    1. Ivan121212
      -5
      14 May 2014 00: 17
      What, all of this? The state debt has not even reached 50% of GDP. Salaries, pensions, etc. paid on time.
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  76. Ivan121212
    -8
    14 May 2014 00: 13
    Quote: Anisim1977
    Ivan 121212 answer a simple question, but with reason:
    Has at least one candidate explained how he will get the country out of its financial ass?

    This is a headache for the government, more than for the president of the country. We live in a parliamentary-presidential country, and not like you - under a dictatorship.
    1. Gen13
      +2
      14 May 2014 00: 17
      If we lived under a dictatorship, then we hardly communicated with you and arrived like the old fashioned black funnel with cheerful guys...
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    3. +1
      14 May 2014 01: 43
      Where do you live? Where where? Ahh this is a country... well, well
  77. +3
    14 May 2014 00: 16
    Quote: Ivan121212
    Quote: Anisim1977
    Ivan 121212 answer a simple question, but with reason:
    Has at least one candidate explained how he will get the country out of its financial ass?

    This is a headache for the government, more than for the president of the country. We live in a parliamentary-presidential country, and not like you - under a dictatorship.

    Remove the clown! laughing
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      1. +3
        14 May 2014 00: 22
        You see him in the mirror laughing laughing
  78. +1
    14 May 2014 00: 18
    Yes, ban this “Ivan121212”, how long can you tolerate this Bandera maniac on the site!
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  79. Ivan121212
    -2
    14 May 2014 00: 20
    Quote: Gen13
    If we lived under a dictatorship, then we hardly communicated with you and arrived like the old fashioned black funnel with cheerful guys...


    Why then did P.utler reign over you for 14 years? And will he rule for at least 10 more years? Is this democracy?
    1. +4
      14 May 2014 01: 06
      Quote: Ivan121212
      Quote: Gen13
      If we lived under a dictatorship, then we hardly communicated with you and arrived like the old fashioned black funnel with cheerful guys...


      Why then did P.utler reign over you for 14 years? And will he rule for at least 10 more years? Is this democracy?

      We will elect as much as we want, it’s our business. Although I am not delighted with Putin, and even more so, I am not a supporter (even an opponent) of United Russia, but they do not seek good from good. Neither in Kyiv, nor in the USA, nor in Europe, not a single president or prime minister can hold a candle to Putin, only Teletubbies. No matter how hard Obama tries to copy his actions, it still turns out to be a caricature, so he gets mad like the last one. And the women in his administration are, in general, related to Freud, in the sense of why women can be evil. And the men there are the same, as well as the Kyiv impostors, to match Obama.
      1. +1
        14 May 2014 03: 55
        That’s why our people chose Putin! And not like your clowns are a bunch of b*tches and scumbags. And in your beloved America there is a real democracy. Clowns (presidents) change, but the puppeteers remain the same.
  80. Escander_84
    +5
    14 May 2014 00: 21
    Ivan 121212 I may disappoint you, but your very smart politicians, with the separation of the DPR and LPR, lost almost 30% of GDP. Moreover, at stable enterprises, secured by contracts for many years to come. So in the near future the IMF tranche for Ukraine will be greatly revised. And no one will ever pay for your efforts here. Relax and have fun.
    1. Ivan121212
      -6
      14 May 2014 00: 25
      Do you know what “DPR” is in reality? This is the area captured by the Don Regional State Administration. All! In Ukraine, no one pays much attention to this farce. It's your media that is inflating all this crap.
      1. Escander_84
        +2
        14 May 2014 00: 36
        Exactly! I just seriously doubt that Ukraine has budgeted expenses for such military operations. And in a week or two, when those “devils” from various structures that are now “fighting” against the free Republics of Lugansk and Donetsk have nothing to pay and they return to Kiev for a salary, you will still look very pale!!!
        1. AVIATOR36662
          +1
          14 May 2014 02: 10
          To save money on the dead National Guardsmen, the junta designates them as deserters! Just super! Just like the United States refused to take the corpses of its soldiers. Super serpentarium! And the junta simply has no chance. Today I saw on TV a former colleague of mine in the ranks of the militia. The man is relatively young, not yet 50, but stubborn to the core, you can’t defeat someone like that. Especially with a lot of second-hand experience.
      2. 0
        14 May 2014 01: 24
        Quote: Ivan121212
        ...It's your media that is inflating all this crap.

        If I were you, I wouldn’t even mention the media. We have them (the media), with all their shortcomings (and where they are not), but these are mass media INFORMATION, and not DISINFORMATION, like the Ukrainian media, and even the largest corporate media in the West, who pays the call, although in In Germany, anyone who wants to know the truth can easily do so, at least on the Internet, but you apparently don’t want to. “Who likes what,” said the cat, licking his balls.
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  81. dron1945
    +2
    14 May 2014 00: 23
    In a fascist state, if you look at history, the actions of other movements and parties are PROHIBITED!! But in our country, such unions and other parties are like dirt, and that’s right, they have supporters and opponents, they act, but they are not allowed to engage in extremism and the murder of dissidents, they are in the legal field of the country, and if they leave, they are responsible according to the law...

    Regarding Crimea, it is also worth looking at history, as well as all the divisions of Poland and other lands lying between the centers of power of the West and the East, this happened many times and nothing terrible happened...
    They went as far as possible under Catherine - Berlin was a Russian city smile
    after the collapse of the USSR it swung back, and now you’ll get a rollback..
    Europe didn’t even understand where it was going...
  82. +1
    14 May 2014 00: 27
    I'm starting to get frustrated with the site. Such frostbitten comments from idiots like “Ivan 121212” appear and are not deleted by the admins. Or is this a manifestation of freedom of speech and tolerance? If tolerance comes to the site, it means the site was bought by those on whose server it is located! And this doesn’t fit in with the idea of ​​the site!
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        14 May 2014 00: 41
        Quote: Ivan121212
        And don't make me angry.

        Oh, then what...? smile
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      14 May 2014 01: 51
      Quote: Ivan121212
      Quote: dron1945
      In a fascist state, if you look at history, the actions of other movements and parties are PROHIBITED!! But in our country, such unions and other parties are like dirt, and that’s right, they have supporters and opponents, they act, but they are not allowed to engage in extremism and the murder of dissidents, they are in the legal field of the country, and if they leave, they are responsible according to the law...



      Moreover, they are completely controlled by the Kremlin...

      For example, “Echo of Moscow” broadcasts freely here; in your opinion, is it also pro-Kremlin? We also have complete pluralism at newsstands. And in Ukraine there is not a single media outlet left that disagrees with the nationalists, official Kiev and the Washington administration. We all saw how in Ukraine the pedophile Lyashko fired the head of one of the media outlets with his fists. And we also saw how the trade union house in Odessa was burned and how the “brave” Ukrainian soldiers from the PS behaved in Slavyansk and Mariupol (like occupiers, almost like the Georgians in Tskhinvali and the Americans in Iraq or Afghanistan).
  84. Gen13
    +2
    14 May 2014 00: 32
    Escander_84 Be a little more specific. Some countries are refusing to purchase from Ukrop. They have nothing to sell except scrap metal and Documentation. The receipt of the tranches will be used to support the Junta's military. They will not pay the gas debt. And so production, as the Americans wanted, will die. And in general, how are they going to live????. They will again live as guest workers like the Baltic states.
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    1. Validator
      0
      14 May 2014 00: 55
      Quote: Ivan121212
      Well, guys, why are you depressed? Go away, the admin won't ban me today.

      Didn't delete it today, will delete it tomorrow. You are a misunderstanding with the Maidan of the brain, why pay attention to you
    2. wk-083
      0
      14 May 2014 01: 04
      Quote: Ivan121212
      Well, guys, why are you depressed? Go away, the admin won't ban me today.

      Again there is a holey flap on the site? You’re not tired waffle, maybe you can relax in Crimea!
      1. 0
        14 May 2014 04: 10
        He should not rest in Crimea, but in Kolyma.
  86. Escander_84
    +1
    14 May 2014 00: 42
    Quote: Ivan121212
    Well, guys, why are you depressed? Go away, the admin won't ban me today.

    You should have been banned at birth!
    1. Ivan121212
      -3
      14 May 2014 00: 48
      Don't be rude. Follow the Forum Rules.
      1. 0
        14 May 2014 01: 55
        Quote: Ivan121212
        Don't be rude. Follow the Forum Rules.

        It’s better that way, otherwise you’ll always get an adequate response to rudeness.
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      14 May 2014 04: 12
      Before birth, explain to the mother that abortion is the best option in this case.
  87. Ivan121212
    -4
    14 May 2014 00: 43
    Quote: Escander_84
    Exactly! I just seriously doubt that Ukraine has budgeted expenses for such military operations. And in a week or two, when those “devils” from various structures that are now “fighting” against the free Republics of Lugansk and Donetsk have nothing to pay and they return to Kiev for a salary, you will still look very pale!!!


    No, not mortgaged. Our strategic ally, the United States, is helping us. What is it worth for them to print a hundred or two million tanks and send them to us through various channels?
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      14 May 2014 02: 08
      Quote: Ivan121212
      Quote: Escander_84
      Exactly! I just seriously doubt that Ukraine has budgeted expenses for such military operations. And in a week or two, when those “devils” from various structures that are now “fighting” against the free Republics of Lugansk and Donetsk have nothing to pay and they return to Kiev for a salary, you will still look very pale!!!


      No, not mortgaged. Our strategic ally, the United States, is helping us. What is it worth for them to print a hundred or two million tanks and send them to us through various channels?

      The United States has never disinterestedly helped anyone, is not helping, and is not going to help in the future. The USA has no strategic allies (no matter what they say), they only have “interests”, no matter strategic or tactical. Their motto is: “Nothing personal - just business.” hi
      True, the “Ukrainians” are cunning people; they can first sell the country to the Americans, and then try to sell themselves to Russia or China. wassat
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        14 May 2014 04: 16
        T**ts like you are the same allies for the United States as Tampax is for a woman.
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  89. dron1945
    +2
    14 May 2014 00: 49
    Quote: Ivan121212
    No, not mortgaged. Our strategic ally, the United States, is helping us. What is it worth for them to print a hundred or two million tanks and send them to us through various channels?


    Don’t be naive, they divided many countries and they will strip you... as they say, it’s nothing personal, but give the bucks to Uncle Sam, it’s just that it will happen later and you won’t be able to blather even on the forum..
  90. Gen13
    +1
    14 May 2014 00: 51
    Why don’t we ourselves and have we already drunk everything!!! But Russia is only getting sticks. Nothing but your exchange rate will fall, but ours will grow
  91. Escander_84
    +2
    14 May 2014 00: 56
    Quote: Ivan121212
    Quote: Escander_84
    Exactly! I just seriously doubt that Ukraine has budgeted expenses for such military operations. And in a week or two, when those “devils” from various structures that are now “fighting” against the free Republics of Lugansk and Donetsk have nothing to pay and they return to Kiev for a salary, you will still look very pale!!!


    No, not mortgaged. Our strategic ally, the United States, is helping us. What is it worth for them to print a hundred or two million tanks and send them to us through various channels?

    So we are just waiting for this!!! Let them turn on the printing press already. The more I print, the less liquidity there is in the market. The sooner we switch to regional currencies (the euro in particular) in payments for gas and oil, I think Europe will jump with delight! And here the sanctions can be revised in the opposite direction. By the way, if you don’t know, then the inclusion of the machine in the USA threatens them with a demand for the return of the state. debt to China (repayment in gold, which the US simply does not have). In this situation, your overseas friends will also come running to you to borrow money!
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  93. dron1945
    +1
    14 May 2014 01: 12
    Quote: Ivan121212
    I'm tired of you. Brainwashed, lack of logic...


    Yes, we are different, brainwashed, we are not ready to kill families, women, children... but you, the logical one, want to kill the weak, defenseless and innocent...

    Our country is far from ideal, but in your country everything is much worse...
  94. +2
    14 May 2014 01: 16
    I live in a straight line about 100+ km, 1.5 hours drive, periodically I heard the sounds of gunshots, of course at that moment there was a thunderstorm front, but I won’t confuse the sound of gunshots with anything, since I heard them enough in 2008 when our warehouse exploded, where it all came from they took me out, so I hope that the guys will succeed in everything they have in mind, the only thing is that they don’t forget to move forward, almost all of our people are against the current government, only who asks us about it, I consider it necessary and important to defend our rights , I hope that Kharkov will rise and the region will not rust
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      14 May 2014 02: 13
      Quote: ars_pro
      ... I hope that Kharkov will rise and the region will not rust

      We all hope so here, good luck...
  95. +2
    14 May 2014 03: 23
    Yoperny theater!!!!Where did such a miracle 121212 come from on a decent resource? I just came from the Mayorsky block, I thought I’d take a look at the coming dream.... damn it looked.. The dream was as if it had never happened.
    Well, the flag is in the hands of the troll, and you yourself know where the trident goes am It’s still calm in Gorlovka, the checkpoints are in place, the mayor has been removed, the flags have been hung, the district electoral commission for the presidential elections has been dispersed... phew reported hi
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      14 May 2014 04: 26
      Well done!!! And they stand for the posts, the mayor was removed, the flags were hung, etc. Many thanks and threefold HURRAY, HURRAY, HURRAY!!! For the fact that you are heroes in the fight against fascism.
  96. yulka2980
    0
    14 May 2014 04: 20
    Tsarev is not cut out for the role of leader, but he is quite an adequate guy. Then Putin will put his own man there to help. smile
  97. 0
    14 May 2014 05: 48
    I don’t understand... Lugansk and Donetsk are the entire southeast? What are the others waiting for? until they come to shoot them? hold referendums so collectively!... now these two will be crushed, Kharkov and Odessa will continue to sit with their asses pressed!
  98. +2
    14 May 2014 06: 15
    Good luck!
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    14 May 2014 11: 51
    Quote: Iskander Khan
    It should be left for refugees from the gay European part of Novorossiya. I think the flag of Novorossiya will not look bad on Big Ben. Even Americans will see.

    The picture is Stalin's dream, the subordination of Europe to the USSR.