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Kremlin: Moscow respects the choice of the population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions

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Moscow respects the will of the population in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions and hopes for a dialogue between representatives of Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk, the Kremlin’s press service reported.
It also pointed out that in Russia they noted a high turnout of the population in referendums in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine, despite attempts to disrupt the vote.
Russia condemns the use of force that has taken place, including the use of heavy weapons against civilians, resulting in casualties in Ukraine.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 12 May 2014 12: 16
    +35
    Kremlin: Moscow respects the choice of the population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions
    and that means, if NECESSARY, the appearance of "polite" people is NOT EXCLUDED ...
    1. Azzzwer
      Azzzwer 12 May 2014 12: 20
      -17%
      Quote: svp67
      and that means, if NECESSARY, the appearance of "polite" people is NOT EXCLUDED ...
      Do not even hope. Putin will not do it!
      1. Baikal
        Baikal 12 May 2014 12: 23
        +10
        Everything is so foggy. So far, all the same 40 irons in the window ... It seems that the appearance has been assigned, but will the smart and cunning scout peck)
        1. KazaK Bo
          KazaK Bo 12 May 2014 12: 54
          +6
          Everything is so foggy. So far, all the same 40 irons in the window ... It seems that the appearance has been assigned

          I don’t know about you, but I still remember the statements of our leaders that WE UNDERSTANDING WISHES TO BE INDEPENDENT ON THE PARTIES OF THE PEOPLE OF ABKHAZIA (SOUTH OSSETIA .... TRANSNISTRIA ... CRIMEA) ... Although all 40 irons ... like a password ... still standing on their windowsills ... Separately located secret appearances were not shown ... but still valid (!!!) ... with readiness to unite in a common apartment. .. at any time!
          HOW ONLY A SCOUT WILL TEST A SIGNAL - THREE GREEN WHISTLES!
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      2. svp67
        svp67 12 May 2014 12: 27
        +15
        Quote: Azzzwer
        Do not even hope. Putin will not do it!
        Wait and see...
        1. jjj
          jjj 12 May 2014 12: 35
          +31
          In fact, the voting results say that no one will shoot in the back of our troops in eastern Ukraine
          1. alauda1038
            alauda1038 12 May 2014 12: 37
            +12
            and this is the main thing
          2. tasey
            tasey 12 May 2014 13: 16
            +5
            There will be fools. I wrote there alone (I don't remember where I read it), something like: "From the window I see a queue for this" fucking "referendum. Hike, I'll have to leave." And there will be rats, either their own or sent, for the device of provocations and murders ...
            1. Alexander Alex
              Alexander Alex 12 May 2014 14: 38
              +3
              spit 3 times, I hope these rats quickly figure out and do what they deserve
          3. g1v2
            g1v2 12 May 2014 15: 37
            +2
            The junta is clearly stoned - before the military operation in the east, few wanted to secede, the majority simply wanted autonomy and if the hunters did not start people to kill, there would be no separation. And now, not only have the 2 regions segregated, they are also looking at Kharkov and Odessa there. In general, I'm shocked, the hunters are doing everything for the collapse of Ukraine. Before the Maidan, about half of Crimeans and 40 percent of Donetsk residents wanted to join Russia, and now 97 and 90 percent, all due to the actions of the junta. Either Tuchenok, his friends and American hosts are simply fabulous, or it’s a tricky plan that you’ll calculate horseradish. I think now they will restore order in Kharkov and Odessa and the fire will spread there, so we are waiting for another 2 referenda.
            1. Thompson
              Thompson 12 May 2014 22: 15
              0
              Looking at the inaction of Yanuk, they thought unceremoniously and terror FASTLY scare the rest and become a non-submersible one.
              Judging by their actions, expecting strategies and tactics from them is a big compliment to their missing brains! Just in power ki, bandits and traitors. From here we see what we see ...
          4. Woolfy
            Woolfy 12 May 2014 17: 24
            0
            I completely agree that the locals will not shoot. But it will be necessary to learn about vagrants to recognize
        2. stappler
          stappler 12 May 2014 13: 27
          +2
          similar to "slivantos"
      3. Little Muck
        Little Muck 12 May 2014 12: 29
        +7
        Quote: Azzzwer
        Do not even hope. Putin will not do it!

        Are you a Guidebook yourself?
        Can you tell me the next direction and actions?
        Hope, you are our visionary.
        1. aleks700
          aleks700 12 May 2014 14: 31
          -2
          Let me tell you. No actions will be taken. Generally.
      4. Penzyac
        Penzyac 12 May 2014 12: 33
        +4
        Quote: Azzzwer
        Quote: svp67
        and that means, if NECESSARY, the appearance of "polite" people is NOT EXCLUDED ...
        Do not even hope. Putin will not do it!

        Do you know Putin so well? Maybe he told you about it?
        1. svp67
          svp67 12 May 2014 12: 55
          +7
          Quote: PENZYAC
          Do you know Putin so well? Maybe he told you about it?
          It’s enough to see that if the GDP is NECESSARY, it acts FAST and RESOLVE ...
        2. aleks700
          aleks700 13 May 2014 06: 40
          0
          He did not speak. He doesn't say anything at all. Here Lavrov and spins like in a frying pan, puffs for that guy. And Shoigu puffs. The next president Shoigu and Lavrov will be together. (joke)
      5. gandalf
        gandalf 12 May 2014 12: 34
        +5
        RџSЂRё need Vostok battalion will reach Lviv ...
      6. MG42
        MG42 12 May 2014 12: 45
        +6
        Quote: Azzzwer
        Do not even hope. Putin will not do it!

        NATO posted new photos of Russian troops on the border with Ukraine
        In the photo there are three comparative pictures: for October 25, 2013, March 23 and May 7, 2014. According to these images, in October there were no Russian troops in the indicated region (Rostov Region), they appeared in March and have not moved back since then

        In addition, there are other indirect signs, but the information is verified. soldier
        1. Roshchin
          Roshchin 12 May 2014 13: 00
          +8
          Believe the NATO drawings should not. Let them show their barracks. But about the Kremlin’s respect for the choice of the population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, this is much more interesting.
          1. MG42
            MG42 12 May 2014 13: 44
            +3
            Quote: Grove
            Believe the NATO drawings should not.

            These are satellite images. By the way, if it is hard to see, it opens with the right mouse button in a new window.
            Quote: Grove
            Let them show their barracks. And as for the respect of the Kremlin
          2. aleks700
            aleks700 13 May 2014 06: 37
            0
            Notice recognition, but respect. Subtle move. Kiev simply did not notice, but respected the Kremlin. That is, I also did not notice.
        2. Alexander Alex
          Alexander Alex 12 May 2014 14: 39
          0
          them to trust themselves not to respect
      7. ALEKS419
        ALEKS419 12 May 2014 12: 52
        +4
        Indeed, Putin is not in an enviable situation. If you do not provide assistance to the people of the eastern regions of Ukraine, then it will turn out, as it were, "merged" (They will trumpet about this to the fullest). If you lead the troops. It turns out that we are aggressors in the eyes of the EU and "mattress makers" ..
        I would very much like our president to have a third way out of this situation.
        1. from punk
          from punk 12 May 2014 14: 34
          +1
          Quote: ALEKS419
          Indeed, Putin is not in an enviable situation. If you do not provide assistance to the people of the eastern regions of Ukraine, then it will turn out, as it were, "merged" (They will trumpet about this to the fullest). If you lead the troops. It turns out that we are aggressors in the eyes of the EU and "mattress makers" ..

          and why do you need to immediately send in troops? firstly, the Kremlin’s statement was made at the end of the referendum and we need to wait for the results. There will be results, so there should be a plan of further actions for the southeast. All this should be announced. Here then the reaction should be no longer the Kremlin namely Putin. No need to rush. The main thing is that the referendum took place
        2. Alexander Alex
          Alexander Alex 12 May 2014 14: 40
          +1
          you need to have a little more trust, so far Putin is doing everything right.
        3. PUGACHEV
          PUGACHEV 12 May 2014 15: 31
          +2
          IT IS NECESSARY TO CREATE AN ARMY IN THE DPR. FROM OUR SIDE, THE FULL SUPPORT OF WEAPONS, TANKS AND ETC. THE BORDER WITH US A DNI MUST BE UNDER CONTROL.
      8. Mercenary
        Mercenary 12 May 2014 13: 14
        -4
        + Held a referendum and what? Neither a goal nor a program, meaning? Money will remain in the area, so what? The creation of individual states? No. Independence from Kiev? Not yet either. I am also against the direction of our guys. So risk knowing for what.
        1. sled beach
          sled beach 12 May 2014 15: 43
          +1
          The unity of peoples doesn’t cost you anything. Do you need to protect yours, do we fight together, or do you think that the war has gone out of fashion? Plus a line, there’s a better chance of survival.
      9. Tersky
        Tersky 12 May 2014 14: 52
        +1
        Quote: Azzzwer
        Do not even hope. Putin will not do it!

        Openly and openly, yes. But volunteers to protect the sovereignty of the DPR will be added very significantly, and it is possible that many of them will be with military dressing .. By the way, here is one example: Chisinau, May 12 (Navigator, Petr Alekseev) - 4 thousands of fighters from Moldova are preparing to be sent to the eastern regions of Ukraine to protect Russian compatriots, said the leader of the Congress of Russian Communities of the Republic of Moldova Valery Klimenko.

        Klimenko wrote a letter to the acting President of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov, in which he warned about the upcoming dispatch of volunteers. The publication Pan.md quotes Klimenko, who confirmed that the information about 4 thousands of fighters is "this is not a joke."
        “People are ready to act decisively. It’s not schoolchildren who are ready to go to Ukraine from Moldova, but people with military experience, ”said the leader of the Congress of Russian Communities of the Republic of Moldova.
        Not washing so katanem all this scum from the southeast trample and burn ..
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 12 May 2014 15: 40
          0
          Most likely there will be a variant of Transnistria - that is, it has not yet been officially recognized, but we really guarantee security.
      10. skiff-xnumx
        skiff-xnumx 12 May 2014 17: 07
        +2
        Do you think so? And why do not tell me canceled vacation and dismissal. Do not get warm this year in the sun I can smell.
    2. Validator
      Validator 12 May 2014 12: 28
      +28
      The approximate meaning of the proposed dialogue
      1. SS68SS
        SS68SS 12 May 2014 12: 42
        +9
        Take these idiots out of power in Kiev, then you can talk. And what is the use of talking to fools. He except themselves hear no one. And for that he himself bears all nonsense and thinks that he himself invented everything. No, it was dictated to you from across the ocean, and you’re just parrots .... You don’t have enough brains to come up with something.
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 12 May 2014 14: 40
          +1
          Quote: SS68SS
          Take these idiots out of power in Kiev, then you can talk. And what is the use of talking to fools. He except themselves hear no one.

          And who chose these morons? In the Verkhovna Rada.
    3. bulvas
      bulvas 12 May 2014 12: 52
      +5
      Quote: svp67
      and that means, if NECESSARY, the appearance of "polite" people is NOT EXCLUDED ...



      So far, one thing is clear - do not take excerpts from Putin
      1. krpmlws
        krpmlws 12 May 2014 14: 08
        0
        Quote: bulvas
        Quote: svp67
        and that means, if NECESSARY, the appearance of "polite" people is NOT EXCLUDED ...



        So far, one thing is clear - do not take excerpts from Putin

        People die in SE, but they don’t receive serious help. I understand that if arms and ammunition were supplied (albeit informally), then the people would be able to expel the invaders on their own.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 12 May 2014 14: 21
          +2
          Quote: krpmlws
          People die in SE, but they don’t receive serious help. I understand that if arms and ammunition were supplied (albeit informally), then the people would be able to expel the invaders on their own.

          Well yes .... you can see the junta helicopters self-defense fighters from slingshots beat ...
          1. krpmlws
            krpmlws 12 May 2014 14: 40
            -1
            Quote: Tersky
            Quote: krpmlws
            People die in SE, but they don’t receive serious help. I understand that if arms and ammunition were supplied (albeit informally), then the people would be able to expel the invaders on their own.

            Well yes .... you can see the junta helicopters self-defense fighters from slingshots beat ...

            Do you have reliable information that helicopters were shot down with the help of MANPADS? Actually, the Ukrainian pilot of the downed helicopter claimed that his helicopter was flashed with machine gun fire.
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 12 May 2014 15: 24
              +3
              Quote: krpmlws
              Do you have reliable information that helicopters were shot down using MANPADS?

              Watch a video of shooting down a helicopter using an almost vertical launch of something rocket-shaped. It can be seen from the video that what was launched on the road performed a robust maneuver left-right (conditionally). Although I’m not a military man, but having normal experience of shooting from RPG - 7, I can say that:
              1. The RPG-7 grenade does not perform such maneuvers. Can not- request
              2. Look at the powerful inversion trail left by an object flying towards the helicopter. Why's that? what
    4. FunkschNNX
      FunkschNNX 12 May 2014 13: 05
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      the appearance of "polite" people is NOT EXCLUDED ...
      It is doubtful that Putin would use the same trick twice. I hope the Kremlin will come up with something new but no less elegant.
    5. lukke
      lukke 12 May 2014 13: 22
      0
      and that means, if NECESSARY, the appearance of "polite" people is NOT EXCLUDED

      while "excluded". The article is not complete, the full version gives a detailed interpretation that the choice of the South-East should be heard by the authorities of Kiev as their part of the population! There are also Peskov's additions that Russia is ready to be a mediator and through international organizations such as the OSCE to contribute to a peaceful settlement of the crisis
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    7. aleks700
      aleks700 12 May 2014 14: 27
      0
      Do not even hope. EXCLUDED.
    8. Lawless
      Lawless 12 May 2014 15: 47
      +1
      They themselves do not do bad ...
    9. Camouflet
      Camouflet 12 May 2014 22: 19
      0
      Quote: svp67
      svp67 SU Today, 12: 16 New

      Kremlin: Moscow respects the choice of the population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions
      and that means, if NECESSARY, the appearance of "polite" people is NOT EXCLUDED ...

      It's too predictable. It seems to me that it will be thinner, more accurate and more correct. The GDP will make a "thigh jump" when the timing is right. And - Vasari, at least. I personally believe in it.
  2. Igor39
    Igor39 12 May 2014 12: 17
    +14
    Well, Russia has already recognized the elections, we are waiting for other countries.
    1. Azzzwer
      Azzzwer 12 May 2014 12: 26
      +4
      Quote: Igor39
      Well, Russia has already recognized the elections, we are waiting for other countries.
      And why did you decide that this recognition? just respectful attitude! There is not a word about the recognition of the statehood of these entities.
      1. PN
        PN 12 May 2014 12: 31
        +7
        Duck and official results yet.
        1. jjj
          jjj 12 May 2014 12: 37
          +14
          First, the release of the official results. Then on the basis of the will of the people - self-proclamation. Then an appeal to Russia. Then the recognition by Russia of new states on the territory of the former Ukraine. Then, when the border becomes not Ukrainian, but Donetsk and Luhansk, at the request of the new states, large-scale "humanitarian" assistance
          1. vlum
            vlum 12 May 2014 12: 48
            +4
            Then the recognition by Russia of new states in the territory


            These states may additionally have time (before official recognition by Russia) to create New Russia. And given the fact that the remaining regions of the region are still lagging behind, but if they catch up, they will have to wait a bit. And help in every way.
            Many methods (for example, force intervention) in such a situation are much more convenient to do outside the legal field. So the referendum is only the beginning of a long journey.

            As an analogue, we can recall the history of Kurdistan.
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          3. krpmlws
            krpmlws 12 May 2014 14: 10
            0
            Quote: jjj
            First, the release of the official results. Then on the basis of the will of the people - self-proclamation. Then an appeal to Russia. Then the recognition by Russia of new states on the territory of the former Ukraine. Then, when the border becomes not Ukrainian, but Donetsk and Luhansk, at the request of the new states, large-scale "humanitarian" assistance

            And what is now preventing us from providing humanitarian and not so much help?
      2. Penzyac
        Penzyac 12 May 2014 12: 38
        +3
        Quote: Azzzwer
        Quote: Igor39
        Well, Russia has already recognized the elections, we are waiting for other countries.
        And why did you decide that this recognition? just respectful attitude! There is not a word about the recognition of the statehood of these entities.

        So, for the time being, there are no official results, let alone an official appeal, or at least an official declaration of independence.
      3. Echelon
        Echelon 12 May 2014 13: 06
        0
        Officially, they did not seem to announce the withdrawal from Ukraine.
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    2. strannik595
      strannik595 12 May 2014 12: 43
      0
      Kremlin: Moscow respects the choice of the population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions
      Well, Russia has already recognized the elections, we are waiting for other countries.
      I haven’t yet recognized ........... I think that this phrase wasn’t wanted in Donetsk and Lugansk, but it’s also difficult for our government to go ahead, too many consequences have generated this referendum for Russia
  3. TAMERLAN 7
    TAMERLAN 7 12 May 2014 12: 17
    +18
    Moscow respects the will of the population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions and hopes for a dialogue between representatives of Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk, the Kremlin’s press service said
    In-polite so. Very polite. Soon they will be scared from Russian politeness as well as from the Russian nuclear bomb!
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 12 May 2014 12: 34
      +4
      Quote: TAMERLAN 7
      In-polite so. Very polite.

      That's right, it's a veiled, polite admission.
    2. Mikros
      Mikros 12 May 2014 12: 37
      +7
      And the Russians began to smile))))) Politely like that))) And then the Americans were wondering why in Russia no one presses on their lash with or without. And there are more and more reasons to smile.
  4. fregina1
    fregina1 12 May 2014 12: 17
    +15
    This is the first word about "Mowgli"! Soon we will recognize the NEW BROTHER'S REPUBLIC "NOVOROSSIYA". And we have no other way! All points of no return passed! Kiev showed how he treats his people, which means that they are not his people!
  5. Bombardier
    Bombardier 12 May 2014 12: 17
    -9
    There will not be any polite people, that’s what it means!
    1. gandalf
      gandalf 12 May 2014 12: 29
      +24
      There will be polite AK-74, "Malyutki", RPG-7, etc.

      It's just that there are enough polite people in the Donbass ... this is not Lviv ...

      And the polite people of Dobass know that the RPG-7 and a kind word will do more than just a kind word ...
      wink
      1. Polevik
        Polevik 12 May 2014 13: 45
        0
        Quote: gandalf
        RPG-7 and a kind word will do more than just a kind word ...


        What is not the slogan (credo, motto) for the polite people of Donbass?
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 12 May 2014 12: 40
      0
      Quote: Bombardier
      There will not be any polite people, that’s what it means!

      Bombardier, in my opinion, you smear ... hi
    3. IGS
      IGS 12 May 2014 13: 37
      +2
      This is true ... There will be no polite after all that the fascists and Kolomoisky have done, more precisely, there will be no politeness. And people are and will be. And they don’t need to be beaten by SMSs of 5 hryvnias.
    4. Uncle Ivan
      Uncle Ivan 12 May 2014 13: 47
      +2
      There will be tens of thousands of volunteers in green uniforms and full equipment ...
  6. rassel0889
    rassel0889 12 May 2014 12: 17
    0
    A little admit?
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 12 May 2014 12: 21
      +11
      Quote: rassel0889
      A little admit?

      And there is no one else to recognize. They need to form statehood, and even unite Donetsk with Lugansk (they won’t stand alone), then they can be recognized.
    2. a52333
      a52333 12 May 2014 12: 21
      +3
      Quote: rassel0889
      A little admit?

      how will the official results be. as soon as possible?
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 12 May 2014 12: 40
        +2
        Quote: a52333
        how will the official results be. as soon as possible?

        That's right! We are not Americans who two weeks ago did not recognize!
    3. Little Muck
      Little Muck 12 May 2014 12: 32
      +1
      Quote: rassel0889
      A little admit?

      For recognition, the final referendum results must be announced.
      Or have you been informed?
      Maybe Gubarev on your premises? fool
      The program "My own director" and its heading are in a different place.
      Probably lost?
    4. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 12 May 2014 13: 22
      +1
      Quote: rassel0889
      A little admit?

      No, not weak! I have long recognized New Russia. hi
    5. TAMERLAN 7
      TAMERLAN 7 12 May 2014 16: 41
      0
      Quote: rassel0889
      A little admit?

      Untimely (for now). GDP well done - holds the game!
  7. mamont5
    mamont5 12 May 2014 12: 19
    +7
    "Kremlin: Moscow respects the choice of the population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions."

    Well, more ... soon already.
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 12 May 2014 12: 24
      0
      Once again I write that there will be no further, that’s all that Vladimir Putin was able to do.
      I think Vladimir Vladimirovich could invite Obama to Slavyansk or Lugansk - to talk with people and let the press not be forgotten ....
      1. Little Muck
        Little Muck 12 May 2014 12: 38
        +4
        Quote: Bombardier
        I think Vladimir Vladimirovich could invite Obama to Slavyansk or Lugansk - to talk with people and let the press not be forgotten ....

        Why is it so small? Just one weak-minded negro? And where is the civilized and advanced Conchita and her "electorate", where is Merkel. No. No. The whole crowd and certainly to communicate with the people. fool
        You did not confuse the site with the Censor?
      2. Penzyac
        Penzyac 12 May 2014 12: 44
        +3
        Quote: Bombardier
        ...
        I think Vladimir Vladimirovich could invite Obama to Slavyansk or Lugansk - to talk with people and let the press not be forgotten ....

        I think maybe Obama is braver than Saakashvili and does not eat ties, but not to the same extent ... request
      3. VNP1958PVN
        VNP1958PVN 12 May 2014 13: 06
        +1
        Rave From temperature, vodka with pepper!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 May 2014 12: 24
      +7
      Quote: mamont5
      Well, then ..

      The meeting is probably going on so far, it’s hard to explain otherwise; why so short a note.
    3. gandalf
      gandalf 12 May 2014 12: 31
      +5
      No need to rush. There is a status quo.
      Making "aggressive" statements is a bargaining chip for the junta's media.
      I think that Novorossiya will be created by 25 and, against the backdrop of pseudo-elections, events with recognition will develop ...
    4. avt
      avt 12 May 2014 12: 47
      +4
      Quote: mamont5
      Well, more ... soon already.

      There is no need to rush and make convulsive movements. Everything will be on time, or in a timely manner. Taking into account the current situation. And there is no need to demand the urgent introduction of regular troops of the Russian Federation, there will be specialists - volunteers, well, if the real government of Novorossia begins to form its regular militia and army formations, again, in economic matters, a specific, legal one is needed, albeit not recognized by civilized countries "subject. In general, the work there is above the roof, just have time to turn, and even in wartime.
  8. comprochikos
    comprochikos 12 May 2014 12: 24
    +5
    Russia neatly broke the silence. Let's see what kind of squeak will be heard in response.
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 12 May 2014 12: 38
      +3
      That's right, this is the so-called "zakidushka", we are waiting for the reaction of "sworn friends". The Russian world will win!
  9. Sergg
    Sergg 12 May 2014 12: 25
    +5
    Rather, they would form state bodies in the Donetsk and Lugansk republics, open borders, and there would definitely not be any customs from these republics. With open borders and help will come to these republics. Life will gradually improve.
  10. tnship2
    tnship2 12 May 2014 12: 25
    +2
    This is only the beginning of the difficult path of formation of the Donetsk Republic. The first time it did not last long. I really want to believe that now everything will work out for people.
  11. Igarr
    Igarr 12 May 2014 12: 26
    +6
    What secrets are there?
    It is proposed that the Russian language, black and white, quickly complete the formation of statehood.
    It is advisable to combine the two areas. What they themselves claimed.
    Recognized, not recognized - not a word about it yet. We respect you.
    But please hurry.
    For...
  12. maxim1
    maxim1 12 May 2014 12: 26
    +4
    Quote: fregina1
    ! All points of no return passed! Kiev showed how it relates to its people, which means it is not its people!

    Here it is, the truth of the situation in Ukraine. 100500 for!
    Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! In both!
  13. Victor-M
    Victor-M 12 May 2014 12: 28
    +2
    Kremlin: "Russia respects the choice of the population of the Donetsk and Lugansk republics, and is ready to cooperate with them in the political and economic spheres." laughing
  14. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 12 May 2014 12: 29
    +7
    Quote: inkass_98
    They need to form statehood, and even unite Donetsk with Lugansk

    ... yes tighten Kharkov, Nikolaev, Odessa and Zaporozhye ...
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 12 May 2014 12: 50
      +2
      Quote: Semen Semenych
      Quote: inkass_98
      They need to form statehood, and even unite Donetsk with Lugansk

      ... yes tighten Kharkov, Nikolaev, Odessa and Zaporozhye ...

      And so on, even to Kiev, or better, right down to the westernmost borders.
  15. Arkan
    Arkan 12 May 2014 12: 29
    +3
    Kremlin: Moscow respects the choice of the population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions


    In relation to the Crimea, it also began. We will wait for further developments.
  16. Russ69
    Russ69 12 May 2014 12: 29
    +2
    Somehow everything is vague, to be honest ... Will there be recognition of their independence?
    True, they themselves have not yet clearly stated anything and how they look at their future life ...
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 12 May 2014 15: 00
      0
      Little Chicken laughing
  17. Snoop
    Snoop 12 May 2014 12: 30
    +3
    There is nothing to admit yet, there are no official referendum results yet. There will be legal registration of the referendum then there will be a declaration of recognition.
    And this statement is a kind of ... approval) Comrades go the right way :)
    Registration of statehood - recognition of a new state, plus any treaty on military mutual assistance with all the consequences.
  18. wax
    wax 12 May 2014 12: 31
    +4
    There is nowhere to hurry to recognize. It is enough that this makes it possible to legally assist the Donbass in protecting the population with volunteers. Now in Ukraine, our policy is not an offensive, but bringing the puppet regime of America in Kiev to collapse according to the logic of our own development (as a big fish is caught when fishing for a fishing rod). The junta does not yet have three key positions:
    1. Russia does not attack Ukraine, which does not allow to rally ukrov against an external enemy and blame all their crimes on the situation
    2. There is no legitimacy of power before the election
    3. No legitimacy - no money
    If the elections of May 25 do not take place, then the collapse of the entire Western structure is inevitable.
    Well, it seems that Yanukovych has no place in any future situation - the people of Donbass determined his place - in a landfill.
  19. Danilich
    Danilich 12 May 2014 12: 31
    +6
    Something will come next. So far, Putin’s cabinet is giving out such a thing. I understand the panic of the West. We will follow with interest.
  20. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 12 May 2014 12: 38
    +4
    The will of the people is half the battle. The second half is the word of the army. The armed forces on the territory of Crimea were politely helped to decide (although it was already good there). If the armed units (local) in the new republics recognize the referendum, then everything is fine and you can breathe out - boldly acknowledge and, if necessary, even introduce polite people. Moreover, the incident is important, at least one part.
  21. Sterlya
    Sterlya 12 May 2014 12: 38
    +3
    Sooner to admit. Officially, the results are not announced. Moreover, they need to unite with Lugansk, (and this is also not so simple) And recognize separately, then when they unite, recognize. (Not seriously, like that)
  22. capex1
    capex1 12 May 2014 12: 38
    +9
    It's only the beginning!!!!
  23. COBOK
    COBOK 12 May 2014 12: 38
    +2
    Here is your first "Hello" (the main thing is polite) hi
  24. chastener
    chastener 12 May 2014 12: 41
    +3
    We are waiting for the official statement of GDP, after the total referendum! He promised!
  25. Victor-M
    Victor-M 12 May 2014 12: 42
    +4
    "The water wears away the stone," but Washington doesn't seem to know it. The people of Donbass have said their word, the results speak for themselves, and Western opinion on non-recognition of referendum results is not legitimately. The United States and the Kiev junta are back in the anus. laughing
  26. dik-fort
    dik-fort 12 May 2014 12: 43
    +4
    Transnistria has not yet been recognized, the strategic goal is the formation of the Republic of Novorossia and the liberation from the occupying forces of Ukraine. In the current situation, the main thing is the creation of the army of New Russia, the seizure of military units, weapons, campaigning among military personnel and even the bribing of unit commanders is possible, the main thing is not to shed blood on the vacillating military, but the National Guard and the ps must be destroyed, there are no options.
    1. andj61
      andj61 12 May 2014 13: 21
      +1
      Quote: dik-fort
      Transnistria is also not recognized yet,


      Transnistria is an example for New Russia to successfully build its own economically self-sufficient state on a tiny piece of land. If successful in Odessa, Transnistria could well become part of New Russia.
  27. Manul49
    Manul49 12 May 2014 12: 49
    +4
    The threat of intervention is STRONG worse than the intervention itself.
    From this and panic.
  28. gandalf
    gandalf 12 May 2014 12: 50
    +6
    The original sounds a little different.

    Moscow respects the will of the population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions and proceeds from the fact that practical implementation of the results of referenda will civilized by, without any relapse violenceThrough dialog between representatives Of Kiev, Donetsk и Lugansk. In interests establishing such dialogue Any mediation efforts are welcome, including through the OSCE. Celebrate high turnout population despite attempts derail voting. Condemn took place use of forceincluding the use of heavy weapons against civiliansresulting in human casualties


    those. referendum results recognized if we talk about practical implementation of the results of referenda through dialogue is not just a dialogue between Kiev and Donetsk with Lugansk ... This is a "request" to Kiev to sign the act of surrender in Donbass peacefully! fellow

    Our media interpret the messages incorrectly ... to interpret them ... 5-th column ... am
  29. Russ69
    Russ69 12 May 2014 13: 06
    +16
    Address by the Chairman of the DPR Security Council, the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the DPR

    In connection with the declaration of independence of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and in order to protect its population from external aggression
    I hereby decree:

    1. To reassign to me, as the supreme commander of the DPR, all military formations, security agencies, police, customs, border guards, prosecutors, and other militarized structures permanently deployed in the republic. From now on, commanders will carry out only my orders and instructions.

    2. Introduce the regime of counter-terrorism operation (CTO) on the territory of the DPR. Within the framework of the CTO, all militants of Ukrainian neo-Nazi groups (the so-called "National Guard", the Right Sector, the "Lyashko battalion", etc.) are to be detained, and in case of armed resistance, they are destroyed on the spot.

    3. Law enforcement agencies of the republic to ensure criminal prosecution of the leaders of the Kiev junta and other persons involved in the incitement, organization and commission of mass killings in the territory of the DPR: I. Kolomoisky, P. Nalivaychenko, A. Parubiya, A. Avakov, Yu. Timoshenko, A. Turchinov, A. Yatsenyuk, O. Lyashko, A. Artemenko as well as US citizens J. Brennan, V. Nuland, J. Psaki.

    4. All soldiers and officers of the armed forces, internal troops, SBU, Ministry of Internal Affairs and other militarized structures of Ukraine from this moment are considered to be illegally located in the territory of the DPR. Within 48 hours, they must swear allegiance to the DNI or leave its territory. Everyone who passes under the command of the DPR authorities is guaranteed the preservation of military and special ranks, monetary allowances and social guarantees (provided that they are not involved in the commission of grave and especially grave crimes).

    5. Considering the emergency situation in the country, the genocide of the Donetsk population unleashed by the Kiev junta and the threat of NATO intervention, I appeal to the Russian Federation to provide military assistance to the DPR.

    I. Strelkov
    1. andj61
      andj61 12 May 2014 13: 27
      0
      The document is missing a date. This is definitely not a fake?
      It would be a shame.
    2. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 12 May 2014 13: 35
      0
      And this is the beginning of the end of the Kiev Bandera scum, after the announcement of the results, the mass transition of all Ukraine to the DPR side will begin, and these mercenaries and traitors of the Russian clan will remain face to face with the people and they will not show enough!
  30. S-17
    S-17 12 May 2014 13: 07
    0
    Quote: Azzzwer
    Quote: svp67
    and that means, if NECESSARY, the appearance of "polite" people is NOT EXCLUDED ...
    Do not even hope. Putin will not do it!


    Is Putin personally reporting to you?
  31. Russ69
    Russ69 12 May 2014 13: 08
    +13
    Act on the State Independence of the DPR

    We, the people of the Donetsk People’s Republic, according to the results of the referendum held on May 11, 2014 and based on the Declaration on the sovereignty of the Donetsk People’s Republic, declare that henceforth the Donetsk People’s Republic is a sovereign state.
    The supreme body of state power in the Donetsk People’s Republic is the Supreme Council, which forms the Government of the Donetsk People’s Republic and the Security Council of the Donetsk People’s Republic.

    Based on the will of the people of the Donetsk People’s Republic and for the restoration of historical justice, we ask the Russian Federation to consider the issue of the entry of the Donetsk People’s Republic into the Russian Federation.

    The people of Donetsk region have always been a part of the Russian world, regardless of ethnicity. For us, the history of Russia is our history. Russian and Soviet victories, including in the Great Patriotic War, are our common victories.

    Initially, the Donetsk region for many centuries was part of the Russian Empire, and only after the bloody catastrophe of 1917 was it separated by conditional administrative borders from Greater Russia.

    The Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic, formed in 1918, had a short term and returned to the RSFSR in less than a year. As part of Ukraine, we lived most of the twentieth century, but this was possible due to the fact that Ukraine itself was a territorial formation of a single state.

    1991 was a disaster for the Russian Slavic world, but our people still hoped that Ukraine, Russia and Belarus would restore their historical unity. This hope finally collapsed in March 2014, when a Kiev junta professing a neo-Nazi, racist, Russophobic ideology seized power in Ukraine during the coup.

    And the declarations calling not only to deprive the Russians and Russian-speaking of all rights, but to begin to destroy them (“on her knives”) were followed by punitive operations and terror, which already claimed hundreds of lives in Slavyansk, Odessa, Mariupol, and other cities of Ukraine.

    In these conditions, the people of the Donetsk People’s Republic in the course of a democratic free referendum decided to create their own state - the Democratic People’s Sovereign, based on the observance of the rights of peoples, people, the superiority of social justice, the friendship of peoples and the rule of law, guarantee of life, freedom of dignity and other rights and freedoms.

    Historically, the overwhelming majority of the population of Donetsk region adhered to the Orthodox religion and continues to practice it to this day. Recognizing and proud of this Orthodox identity, we commit ourselves to respect the freedom of conscience and religion of all traditional faiths and respect all possible points of view in the field of religion.

    Since the founding of our statehood on May 11, 2014, we want to express our rejection of all forms of fascism, nationalism, chauvinism, racial discrimination in all its forms. As long as these ideas dominate in Ukraine, we cannot build good-neighborly relations with our former fellow citizens living west of our borders.

    But we will defend the ideals of the Donetsk people's republic, our freedom, sovereignty and independence, our Idea, no matter what it costs us.

    With completely different eyes, we look at Russia with which we are connected not only historically, culturally, religiously, economically, but also enter into the common space of Russian civilization with it.
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  33. Yellow white
    Yellow white 12 May 2014 13: 13
    +1
    Friends, a bit of patience, it’s a pity that it’s a pity that without blood there is no way ...
  34. mig31
    mig31 12 May 2014 13: 14
    +3
    From the choice of the people to go nowhere, the choice has been made ...
  35. Giperboreec
    Giperboreec 12 May 2014 13: 16
    0
    Everything has its time. We will wait and hope for the best.
  36. arch_kate3
    arch_kate3 12 May 2014 13: 18
    0
    Yes, the main thing is to sow panic in the camp of the enemy! Psychos are always unbalanced and worth using! A psychological war is now going on and those with stronger nerves and better endurance will win.
  37. Giant thought
    Giant thought 12 May 2014 13: 22
    0
    Let's hope that the help to our brothers will become more tangible and real, and Russia will take under its protection the new independent republics.
  38. Pastor
    Pastor 12 May 2014 13: 27
    0
    Quote: svp67
    Kremlin: Moscow respects the choice of the population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions
    and that means, if NECESSARY, the appearance of "polite" people is NOT EXCLUDED ...
    there is a need for how long this bloody performance will continue ..
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 12 May 2014 14: 27
      +2
      Quote: WASTOR
      there is a need for how long this bloody performance will continue ..

      It is not known how much blood will be if we introduce troops. You don’t have to hurry with these, but normal help is needed.
      It is completely legal, you can supply armor, walkie-talkies, medicines, rations, that is, everything that does not apply to lethal weapons. And unofficially helping with weapons, volunteer equipment, specialists, intelligence information ...
      To date, they quite manage themselves. Now the militia has more organization, weapons. And they themselves can quite resist, given the unwillingness of the army to fight, except for groups of radicals, and they themselves can be beaten successfully ...
  39. 528Obrp
    528Obrp 12 May 2014 13: 30
    +1
    No new meetings are planned in Ukraine, moreover, the quadripartite talks on resolving the crisis in Ukraine are unpromising, said Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/rolling_news/2014/05/140512_rn_lavrov_ukraine_talks
    .shtml
    Here is the starting point. Now, for sure, maidanutye to Brussels are flying. There will be a big fee. Interestingly, and ties to the table? lol
  40. IGS
    IGS 12 May 2014 13: 30
    0
    "Noted ...", "Respectfully ..." .. in fact, this is silence, and according to experience, nothing good for the junta does not bode well ... But I seem to have deja vu. There were, it seems, approximately similar statements about 6 years ago.
  41. AAA
    AAA 12 May 2014 13: 35
    +3
    It is quite obvious that the spring "parade of sovereignty" - Crimea, and now the Donetsk and Lugansk regions - this is only the beginning. And let the junta and its supporting oligarchs not think that the process will stop there. wink
  42. Not local
    Not local 12 May 2014 14: 02
    0
    Hhhhhhhhhhhhh !!! Good evening, polite little men are already here !!!

    where "W-chpo-k-k-k-k !!!" - the official announcement of the results of the referendum.
  43. 528Obrp
    528Obrp 12 May 2014 14: 06
    0
    Now Lavrov showed on life news. So this is about
    practical referendum results
    . Exactly practical!!!
  44. volot-voin
    volot-voin 12 May 2014 14: 07
    +2
    It would be enough for the government to join the Donetsk and Lugansk regions to Russia. With the West, thank God, they still quarreled safely.
    But most likely they will remain unrecognized republics as Transnistria. May God give courageous people victory and the long-awaited peace that is likely to come with the Russian troops.
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 12 May 2014 14: 36
      0
      I think you're right about the unrecognized republics and the world.
    2. vedross
      vedross 12 May 2014 16: 36
      0
      Yes, there would be enough Spirit and courage! Only forward and forward! There is already nothing to be ashamed of and to act according to the principle of "no matter what happens"! Our cause is just!
  45. muhomor
    muhomor 12 May 2014 14: 47
    0
    You can’t give the junta to hold elections on May 25! Only a trip to Kiev can slam the Natsiks (and there are not so many) and give a chance to maintain the integrity of the country.
  46. sanek0207
    sanek0207 12 May 2014 14: 54
    0
    With their courage, SPIRIT THEY SERVED PEACE, Tranquility !!!! WHO IN THE WORLD HAS A HEALTHY SENSE THAT RECOGNIZES THE FINISHED FACT OF SELF-DETERMINATION, AND WHO DOESN’T RECOGNIZE WELL AND HRN WITH THEM! WHO NEEDS RECOGNITION!? NO ONE!
  47. typhoon7
    typhoon7 12 May 2014 14: 58
    0
    We must wait for the official announcement of the referendum results. I think the main thing is to take control of the sky over Donbass and Lugansk, then the Ukrainian army will be much easier to squeeze out of the territory of the independent Donetsk Republic. Russia will make sharp movements only if the troops begin full-scale hostilities, with the use of aircraft and heavy weapons.
  48. kelevra
    kelevra 12 May 2014 15: 09
    0
    Now these new republics need to ask for help from Russia. And preferably, prepare a referendum on joining Russia!
  49. potap48a
    potap48a 12 May 2014 15: 37
    0
    The referendum passed, the results are expected. What's next? We select the joint executive power of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, create an army, purchasing the latest weapons in the Russian Federation, and equip the border with hohland. We clean the remains of the executive power of the maydaunas in the territory of the DPR, organize the financial system and go !!!!
  50. suharev-52
    suharev-52 12 May 2014 15: 37
    0
    Well, how much can you? Why do some site visitors rush ahead of the engine? Remember. In such matters, the rush of death is similar. Sincerely.