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Industrialists of Mariupol will form people's guards to restore order in the city

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Business executives urged Kiev to "abandon the practice of conducting large-scale battles"

Industrialists of Mariupol will form people's guards to restore order in the city


Mariupol industrialists are going to help restore order in the city and restore the work of metallurgical plants.

To this end, the Metinvest group 9 of May announced the decision “to create, together with the municipal police, people's squads from among the workers of the metal works”. Since May 11, they will “start patrolling the city and protecting civilians,” says a joint statement by the general directors of Metinvest, Yuri Ryzhenkov, the Ilyich Yury Zinchenko combine and Azovstal combine, Enver Tskitishvili.

What do industrialists call for?

"Blood was shed in the city. It happened on May 9, the holy Victory Day for all of us," they reminded. According to them, “the life of Mariupol is paralyzed, the urban economy is collapsing, the quiet work of metallurgical plants is disrupted, and this is not only work and wages for citizens, it is the economic foundation of the Donetsk region and the whole of Ukraine.”


The leaders of industrial enterprises called for "abandoning the practice of conducting large-scale battles in the peaceful cities of Donbass involving armed forces, using heavy equipment and weapons," noting that "the Ukrainian military must immediately leave the city." “The authorities can and should hear the voice of the residents of Donbass. The authorities must ensure peace and quiet in the cities so that people can live and work in peace,” the report says.

According to Metinvest, it is one of the ten largest producers of iron ore and heavy plate in Ukraine. In November, 2010, the company completed the merger with the plant them. Ilyich, which allowed us to double the production capacity for steelmaking to more than 18,5 million tons per year.
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  1. mnbv199
    mnbv199 11 May 2014 06: 33
    +44
    New news came from the front.

    On May 10, on the southern outskirts of Slavyansk in the Troitsky area, two excavators dug several hundred pits 3 meters deep for the burial of mercenaries and fighters of the National Guard.

    The amount of losses of the SBU, the National Guard (special battalions "Azov" and "Dnepr") and mercenaries from PMCs according to our data is about 300 people (data is constantly being received and processed).

    “Most of the fighters were lost by the Azov special battalion during the retreat after an unsuccessful attack, some of the bodies of the dead were not even taken with them. The rest of the two hundredths are mobsters and mercenaries, ”said militia intelligence.

    Recall that the other day in the blogs of respected “columnists” there was detailed information about the losses of the enemy, we will quote.

    “Total losses of punitive in the Donbass for 2-9 on May 2014 of the year:

    About 240 killed and wounded, of which:

    - About 130 extremists of the "Right Sector", which mainly became part of the national guard;

    - about 20 troops of the 95 airmobile Zhytomyr brigade;

    - About 10 employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs;

    - about 60 employees of the SBU of Ukraine (Sumy Alpha was completely destroyed, Kiev, Poltava, Ternopol, Ivano-Frankivsk Alpha suffered heavy losses, etc.);

    - 20 CIA officers (13 killed, 7 injured);

    - 10 mercenaries: Polish PMC “ASBS Othago” lost 3 people, American PMC “Greystone” - 7 people;

    - seven combat helicopters (Mi-24 and Mi-8);

    - 1 Hammer;

    - 1 armored personnel carrier;

    - 1 BMP.

    The People’s Army captured 9 units of armored vehicles. "
    1. Canep
      Canep 11 May 2014 07: 43
      +23
      Quote: mnbv199
      On May 10, on the southern outskirts of Slavyansk in the Troitsky area, two excavators dug several hundred pits 3 meters deep for the burial of mercenaries and fighters of the National Guard.

      They had to be buried in a cattle cemetery.
      1. The point
        The point 11 May 2014 09: 12
        +11
        Quote: Canep
        They had to be buried in a cattle cemetery.

        and lime am
        1. olegff68
          olegff68 11 May 2014 11: 44
          +3
          Quote: Maksud
          Quote: Canep
          They had to be buried in a cattle cemetery.

          and lime am

          We will not all be surprised if EXACTLY it will be - and the Banderlog will do it themselves. in order to "hide the traces of the crime" ...
        2. datur
          datur 11 May 2014 14: 59
          +1
          Better immediately concrete !!!!! yes
      2. alauda1038
        alauda1038 11 May 2014 10: 35
        +5
        do not offend the cows with their existence, they brought people benefits, and these are not worthy to be buried there
      3. salamandra2826
        salamandra2826 11 May 2014 15: 13
        +2
        Things for the new Nuremberg are preparing ..
      4. Larusik
        Larusik 11 May 2014 16: 08
        +1
        such creatures have no place next to even animal corpses
      5. Ujin61
        Ujin61 11 May 2014 18: 16
        0
        The news of fagot Lyashko was caught in Mariupol. They are going to take him to Slavyansk, to wet him and to the cattle cemetery.
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 11 May 2014 08: 47
      +9
      Hard to believe. This is actually a breakdown of the entire operation of the junta. We will wait for confirmation from other sources.
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 11 May 2014 09: 16
        +6
        Quote: Wedmak
        Hard to believe. This is actually a breakdown of the entire operation of the junta. We will wait for confirmation from other sources.

        TOO accurate data, although if the junta is actively "flowing" (and there are signs), it is quite possible, given the "quality" of the National Guard! !
        And at all a strange imbalance, huge losses in helicopters, people, and relatively small in technology!
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 11 May 2014 09: 31
          +11
          Quote: serega.fedotov
          "quality" of the National Guard!

          - What is the quality? These scumbags can only burn mine unarmed residents. In clashes with trained armed fighters, even former and retired, they can suffer heavy losses, because they have no idea about the tactics of fighting, and indeed they are not trained in this at all. So I believe, I believe. But it would be nice for further demoralization of the "National Guard" to publish both evidence and video of the great losses of this "brotherhood".
          Why did I, somewhere in the far backs of the Internet, fished out an inofu about 13 dead mercenaries in the first MI-8, shot down by federalists? Why not on the first pages and editorials of "Vzglyad", "Regnum", "KP", "RIA Novosti" and other leading Internet publications?
          Here and here in the "blogs of respected columnists." We received a signal in blogs, asked the dispatched special correspondent to check the information on the spot, and in case of confirmation, to publish the editorial in large capital letters. It is in vain that the Russian media eat their bread, do not work out foreign companies at all. After all, such information will really help save the lives of the militia, tk. demoralized by such messages "national guardsman" will run away, which means we will not kill any militia.
          1. Tartar
            Tartar 11 May 2014 15: 26
            +2
            For the most part, Russian media are the 5th column. Of course they are afraid of Putin, but they continue to distort and filter information. Putin is especially censored, despite his fear of him.
        2. The comment was deleted.
        3. mamont5
          mamont5 11 May 2014 12: 49
          +3
          Quote: serega.fedotov
          And at all a strange imbalance, huge losses in helicopters, people, and relatively small in technology!


          Apparently, knowing that the rebels have a large number of ATGMs and RPGs, they are afraid to let the equipment forward. After all, when hit for the crew, a faithful coffin.
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 11 May 2014 15: 50
            +3
            Losses are mainly in the National Guard and law enforcement agencies, who have no real combat experience. Alfovtsev, as I heard mine, was set up under the militia for sabotaging orders. To defeat the armor you need direct visibility, which in a city is a couple of hundred meters. In Slavyansk, they try not to introduce equipment, but they fire from afar more often from equipped positions. The pinwheel is clearly visible from afar, in addition, ukrov pilots have no combat experience and flew over the hostile city carelessly and were substituted. Now they are already scientists and are almost not substituted, but not so much that they have a lot of serviceable turntables. In fact, hunters must be brought down by mobile groups on the march, as the video shows that they drive relaxed without military guard and patrols, and punishment for gouging. In addition, they carry the same units across Donbas, and if they pinch them on the march, they will not recruit new units soon. All of their units that shoot at the people - from the army there are only 95 brigades, from the Ministry of Internal Affairs - a jaguar, a falcon and an omega, 2 battalions of the National Guard and mercenaries in the form of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Plus rabble from pravoseki and some Alfovites from different territorial groups of the SBU. If you knock them out then hell they are still campaigning for someone else. Well, Krutov must be hunted personally, as he is, though, but experienced.
        4. Tartar
          Tartar 11 May 2014 15: 21
          0
          Apparently cars on which pravoseki do not go round and round.
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev 11 May 2014 09: 52
        +7
        Quote: Wedmak
        Hard to believe

        the total number of losses is likely. and the disruption of the operation of the Junta is obvious - the cities are not busy, the referendum has started.
        I personally doubt the information about the digging of graves by excavators near Slavyansk.
        Is the backbone of the Banderlozh army constitute a rootless scum, which even nowhere (and no one) to bring to bury? Something much as much as 300 pits ...
        Or is there no organization of this matter? (Black tulip, ceremonial funeral in Zapadenshchina, like Bily)
        Or do authorities conceal the extent of losses from duped citizens?
        1. salamandra2826
          salamandra2826 11 May 2014 15: 20
          +2
          If they send the 200s to the West, they will begin to think. But it’s harmful for them to think, because the junta will run out of meat
      3. olegff68
        olegff68 11 May 2014 11: 52
        +4
        Quote: Wedmak
        Hard to believe. This is actually a breakdown of the entire operation of the junta. We will wait for confirmation from other sources.

        The numbers are really fantastic, but for good reason for some reason NOW!
        The leaders of industrial enterprises called "to abandon the practice of conducting large-scale battles with the participation of the armed forces in the peaceful cities of Donbass

        Some kind of "late" and rather forced epiphany ...
        1. demoniac1666
          demoniac1666 11 May 2014 13: 44
          +4
          Reaction to the referendum and an attempt to earn political points ??? IMHO
    3. mamont5
      mamont5 11 May 2014 12: 45
      +2
      Quote: mnbv199
      On May 10, on the southern outskirts of Slavyansk in the Troitsky area, two excavators dug several hundred pits 3 meters deep for the burial of mercenaries and fighters of the National Guard.


      In one ditch, fall asleep and roll up the asphalt. So that nothing grows in this place.
    4. Ross
      Ross 11 May 2014 14: 01
      +2
      But Akhmetov showed up. Some oligarchs know how to benefit from everything. Unlike other oligarchs-Akhmetov, the most intelligent turned out to be-not lit up with punishers.
      1. salamandra2826
        salamandra2826 11 May 2014 15: 23
        +1
        He knows that he can stay with x ... At least he wants to grab something
      2. 1812 1945
        1812 1945 11 May 2014 16: 08
        +1
        Quote: Ross
        But Akhmetov showed up. Some oligarchs know how to benefit from everything. Unlike other oligarchs-Akhmetov, the most intelligent turned out to be-not lit up with punishers.

        So - so so ... But: "Fear the Danes who bring gifts"!
    5. _my opinion
      _my opinion 11 May 2014 15: 50
      0
      Let me repeat my comment:
      ... you know, I watched as the people stopped the BMP and thought - and there must be ways to drown out the engine with improvised means, disable weapons in such a situation...I suggest that those who really know the BMP, APC, BMP device think and report here effective means of blocking / neutralizing these machinesthen there is a chance that someone will read it and the people of the southeast will take it into service ...
      This will be the real benefit of our comments.

      I am not special in this matter, but offhand, in an amateurish way:
      close / fill the air intake
      close inspection slots,
      pour sand / earth into the trunk
      put a metal rod into the tracks ...
      1. AndreyS
        AndreyS 11 May 2014 23: 05
        0
        Quote: _my opinion
        put a metal rod into the tracks ...

        A better crowbar, the caterpillar will tear unequivocally.
    6. Larusik
      Larusik 11 May 2014 16: 09
      +1
      But the wounded foreign mercenaries at least give some evidence, it is fixed, because it is useful when presenting a tan?
  2. from punk
    from punk 11 May 2014 06: 34
    +2
    and where was this municipal police then?
  3. domokl
    domokl 11 May 2014 06: 34
    +15
    Business is trying to maintain profit. This is normal. Profit has a downside, jobs for residents. But squads ... Their effectiveness is doubtful if the population and law enforcement officers have small arms. Yes, and army units will not stand aside.
    But at the moment the task number one is a referendum. You need to dot all the ... so that you can and should speak.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 11 May 2014 07: 08
      +9
      Quote: domokl
      .And here are the squads ...

      "Formation of squads" actually means - financing the needs of self-defense)).
    2. smile
      smile 11 May 2014 15: 09
      +2
      domokl
      All right. But the fact that one of the oligarchs of Ukraine decided and took concrete steps against the current leadership of Ukraine is very indicative. It is difficult to call a tovaris uninformed. Consequently, if he was not afraid that he would be crushed and wrapped around by the junta, he ALREADY had reason to believe that he would not succeed in suppressing the Southeast junta, that his enterprises would remain with him only if he did not actually act on the side of the ruling clique .. .. It is gratifying to hear.
      1. salamandra2826
        salamandra2826 11 May 2014 15: 31
        +2
        He swung in the other direction, so he "decided." Once such a hero and so worried about business could buy at least a couple of BMPs for his cops with his loot.
        1. smile
          smile 11 May 2014 16: 16
          +1
          salamandra2826
          I agree. But such hit men usually just don’t do anything like that, a hundred times without double-checking what tactics they will win. This one decided to take the side opposite to the junta, therefore, in his opinion, the Southeast junta will not be able to crush under any circumstances - he will lose too much otherwise - his bank colleagues with oligarch spiders will dispossess ... :) )))
  4. mnbv199
    mnbv199 11 May 2014 06: 35
    +17
    The massacre in Mariupol, details (new videos)

    Read article

    http://rusvesna.su/news/1399769975

    Additional quotes from the Forum of Mariupol:
    In Mariupol, the ATO successfully passed against residents and police .. the main goal of
    intimidation of mariupol residents is achieved. Bravo, Avakov! so you live a hundred years! in
    jail!
    just came, went to the executive committee and the police department, the police department is horrible ... everything is in the wake of
    shells, bullets, burned out completely, a lot of colors ... there are people who cry
    there, but there are nonhumans who rejoice ((
    As for losses among personnel, it is reliably known that he died
    traffic police chief Viktor Saenko, as well as an employee of the patrol service battalion
    Mikhail Ermolenko.
    I have a friend who works in the prosecutor’s office in Kiev, now he’s in
    Mariupol. He says that 64 people died in the police department building.
    In Mariupol, 52 policemen were shot and burned in the police department for
    they did not want to shoot at their relatives, at their people, was also killed
    The chief of GAI V. SAENKO. Peaceful people were shot in the streets. Kingdom to them
    heavenly. You are our heroes.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 11 May 2014 08: 03
      +16
      Quote: mnbv199
      In Mariupol, 52 policemen were shot and burned in the police department because they did not want to shoot their relatives, their people, and the head of the GAI V. SAENKO was also killed.

      The fighters of the National Guard under the fire from grenade launchers !!!

      "Acting President of Ukraine, speaker of the country's parliament, Alexander Turchinov, admitted that the population of Donetsk region supports the actions of the militias, Vesti.ua reports.

      What happened the day before in Mariupol would have been impossible without the support of local residents, Turchinov believes. According to him, this complicates the conduct of a special operation in the south-east of the country. "
      XXXX

      But if the population supports, then what kind of terrorists are these? Ah, Turchinov? Where are these saboteurs? The time will come and in Nuremberg you will answer !!!
      1. sir.jonn
        sir.jonn 11 May 2014 09: 56
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        The time will come and in Nuremberg you will answer !!!

        The fate of the sixes standing today at the head of the junta is not bright, because afterwards you will have to look for a scapegoat for all mistakes and inconvenient events. To be honest, I would like to see all the strongest on the scaffold of some representatives of the star-striped State Department and a couple of the last presidents.
        1. sniper
          sniper 11 May 2014 13: 29
          +4
          Quote: sir.jonn
          The fate of the sixes standing today at the head of the junta is not rosy
          They have one road, to Sasha Bely, they know too much ... Their masters will merge so that they don’t chat .... They won’t live to see the trial ...
          1. sanja.grw
            sanja.grw 11 May 2014 17: 37
            +2
            It already happened so, the head of the Internal Affairs Directorate Mariupal for giving the order to shoot at the people had already been pulled up on an aspen near the airport by the verdict of a military field court. But not long ago I read the news that Lyashko had already been caught
      2. Thompson
        Thompson 11 May 2014 09: 59
        +8
        What are you all NURNBERG, NURNBERG. In order for Nuremberg to be, a great war is needed and for the world to stand united against the threat.
        What do we see now? That's it. Everything caved in under the dollar and changed its "orientation".
        NURNBERG TODAY WE ARE! So let's do justice!
      3. olegff68
        olegff68 11 May 2014 12: 04
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        The time will come and in Nuremberg you will answer !!! [/ b]

        The whole difficulty of the situation is that Yulia @ ko tied themselves in blood, walking over the corpses in Odessa and the rest of the Southeast ... They burned bridges behind them and will go to the end, ALL Ukrainian media help them in this, the most "democratic" a country in the world and often a REALLY foolish people of an independent ...
        1. sir.jonn
          sir.jonn 11 May 2014 14: 32
          +1
          Quote: olegff68
          The whole difficulty of the situation is that Yulia @ ko tied themselves in blood, walking over the corpses in Odessa and the rest of the Southeast ... They burned bridges behind them and will go to the end, ALL Ukrainian media help them in this, the most "democratic" a country in the world and often a REALLY foolish people of an independent ...

          This Julia bitch is still that! She has already voiced her intention to repeat the Maidan with unacceptable results for her already happening. She will go over the heads of her competitors and associates and wash off in their blood if necessary.
        2. anfil
          anfil 11 May 2014 19: 12
          +1
          ... ALL Ukrainian media help them in this, the most "democratic" country in the world and often a REALLY foolish people of an independent ...

          Here it is theirs media


          And it is not yet known what kind of squads these "bags" are organized ?!



          At first I did not make out and read at the bottom: the US Army is ready wipe Ukraine
  5. queen
    queen 11 May 2014 06: 35
    +5
    Ukrainian punishers, now they can’t wash themselves in a century, and will always be heard by the peaceful people. The western part is true but slowly digging its grave.
    1. Predator
      Predator 11 May 2014 06: 38
      +6
      Yes already dug up!
  6. svp67
    svp67 11 May 2014 06: 45
    +8
    The Metinvest Group belongs to Rinat Akhmetov, yet another tycoon is trying to restore OWN power over the region.
  7. Marconi41
    Marconi41 11 May 2014 06: 45
    +1
    It would be better to join the ranks of the militia. DND - voluntary people's squads in the USSR have always been deciphered as Fools Nothing to Do. The effectiveness of these formations will be approximately zero!
  8. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 11 May 2014 06: 47
    +1
    And before it was impossible to guess, damn it, until the thunder strikes, the man crosses himself.
  9. VadimL
    VadimL 11 May 2014 06: 48
    +1
    Why dig? And so, on the side of the road perfectly rot.
    1. Nick
      Nick 11 May 2014 09: 07
      +3
      Quote: VadimL
      Why dig? And so, on the side of the road perfectly rot.

      Corpses must be buried, even barbarians do it. In addition, unsanitary conditions ...
    2. The point
      The point 11 May 2014 09: 15
      +4
      Quote: VadimL
      And so, they perfectly rot on the sidelines.

      they can’t spread the infection. wassat
  10. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 11 May 2014 06: 49
    0
    Big business incurs colossal losses, industrialists and entrepreneurs realized that with this power you won’t make yourself a stone choir, you just squander the rest.
    1. smith7
      smith7 11 May 2014 09: 20
      +6
      What are you talking about? Which people? How to help? "Nothing personal just business!" As soon as it becomes more profitable for them to spread rot and even genocide their people, they will immediately "change their clothes" without hesitation! The "oligarchs usih krain" council consists of "crisp evergreens" ... And in this case, Akhmetov seems to have "lost his mind" that the new government has defamed itself by killing innocent people and they have no future. Flirts with the working class, not otherwise frightened by a bleak prospect.
      1. Anisim1977
        Anisim1977 11 May 2014 12: 04
        +4
        Akhmetov owns essentially the entire metallurgy of Donbass:
        1) In his independent enterprise, competitors to the Russian - we take no more than we need.
        2) Will become Russian - access to all public procurement and support as their own.
        In contrast to Taruta and Kolomoisky, he didn’t seem to do any muck either.
        It is stupidly beneficial for him to enter Donbass in Russia or New Russia.
        And the squads are first and foremost - to prevent looting under the guise.
  11. Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 11 May 2014 06: 51
    +5
    They would have taken one Afroamericos prisoner ... but homosexuals can say that these are students of some kind of "school" ... yes, the most false "war" in the history of the planet, because in the "west" they are sure that "Putin" is already near Kiev - the city is worth it !?
  12. Round cat
    Round cat 11 May 2014 06: 55
    +2
    "The authorities can and should still hear the voice of the residents of Donbass. The authorities must ensure peace and quiet in the cities so that people can live and work in peace." This power can no longer and does not hear. And not peace and quiet, but war and destruction brings its citizens.
  13. wanderer987
    wanderer987 11 May 2014 07: 02
    +3
    And with whom are industrialists with the people or with Kiev? In my opinion, they don’t give a damn about the people. The main thing for them is to preserve their business at all costs, and after all, they don’t give a damn about who gives kickbacks so they don’t touch them. If one of the businesswomen was for his people long ago, they would help the inhabitants of cities, with money, medicines, and anything else, and so they sit in holes and wait for someone to take!
  14. sir.jonn
    sir.jonn 11 May 2014 07: 11
    +5
    In Kiev, presidential candidates at a debate discuss how best to get rid of the Russians, and the junta to rage about the futility of the creeps of their army near the rebellious cities. Who thinks about economics and citizens, and which of them makes sense to appeal to? Druzhinniks had to be organized yesterday, and today mobilization and militias with real weapons are needed.
  15. skifd
    skifd 11 May 2014 07: 42
    +6
    Here they are, Tsuki:

    1. Sinara70
      Sinara70 11 May 2014 09: 17
      +6
      End for this need these creatures with guns !!!
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. shalomnet
      shalomnet 11 May 2014 14: 53
      0
      Tyrants, their slaves and their victims.
      "Victims of Tyranny" - as I would call it ...
      Sad to tears.
  16. rasputin17
    rasputin17 11 May 2014 08: 10
    +3
    "The authorities can and should still hear the voice of the residents of Donbass. The authorities must ensure peace and quiet in the cities so that people can live and work in peace,"

    The power in Kiev is deaf, dumb and blind to its citizens! She doesn’t decide anything for her, this is done by a mattress, and she doesn’t give a damn about the pouring blood of Ukrainian citizens, since this does not count in achieving her interests!
  17. shelva
    shelva 11 May 2014 08: 25
    +3
    What to take from the industrialists ?, they just wouldn’t be bothered to cut loot. But the population needs to arm themselves - they would not allow this outrage.
  18. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 11 May 2014 08: 38
    +3
    To whom will the squads obey? Whose orders to follow? It is logical that those who created. It turns out a private army on a plausible pretext. They can also hit the militias in the back.
  19. Boris55
    Boris55 11 May 2014 08: 49
    +3
    ... Mariupol's life is paralyzed, urban economy is collapsing, disturbed quiet work of metallurgical plants, and this is not only work and salary for citizens, this is an economic foundation Donetsk region and all Ukraine"...


    It looks like a call: "Cattle, come on arbaiten! There is nothing to feed the ukrarmia to crush you" ...
    First, we need to decide the question: "how will we live", and only then "how to earn a living" ...
  20. kingnothing
    kingnothing 11 May 2014 08: 52
    +3
    People’s squad is good. The bad thing is that it can be formed from some kind of pravosekov, those who laugh at the police department.
  21. sv68
    sv68 11 May 2014 09: 12
    +5
    the business began to consider losses from the actions of the Nazis and decided to save what has not yet been destroyed. So, you look and the warriors from time to time will be given weapons, pistols, slingshots, firecrackers and firecrackers. UNIQUE THE MARIUPOL PEOPLE WILL NOT CREATE THE ARMED SELF-DEFENSE Squads ---. NOT FIGS ON BUSINESS HOPE — THEIR ENTREPRENEURS WITH GRAVES WILL BE DELIVERED, THROWED ON AN ARRANGEMENT OF FATE — hope for your uncle and don’t send it
  22. storm wind
    storm wind 11 May 2014 09: 30
    +2
    What kind of folk squads in FIG? To be shot? What the next nonsense? The junta understands only power! Take weapons and all the Nazis on the count !!!!!
  23. s1н7т
    s1н7т 11 May 2014 09: 32
    +1
    So I think nationalities are afraid, demons! It is the nationalization of the loot that could make the Donetsk Republic truly popular, and they are afraid, they are preparing their own private army for such a case!
  24. Signaller
    Signaller 11 May 2014 09: 36
    +1
    And what remains for them to do, but how in the Crimea their property is nationalized .. Apparently then this will be counted.
    1. chelovektapok
      chelovektapok 11 May 2014 12: 13
      0
      Selfish interest is a very sensitive pain point. Regarding "nationalization in the Crimea" - even the Makaronych whined piteously; "freedom, democracy, bad Putin strangled in the Crimea ..." And just something tax will present myta for "svesnoy zavodik" .... Oligarchs, they smell who will soon come to power in the SE. So they are fussing in advance, they say the FAN! They have information, a sober calculation. Cannibals in Kiev are politics. And business is commercial, private. Every action is worth more than gold in the literal sense. It is not good to compare so, but "the rats are running from the trough!"
  25. maxim1
    maxim1 11 May 2014 09: 52
    +2
    Well, Akhmetov was worried that he was being nationalized.
    And he began to do body movements.
    Is it too late, but, Akhmetov?
    1. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 11 May 2014 12: 06
      +2
      Better late than never.
      And he is in every way better than Kolomoisky.
      And oligarchs, by definition, cannot be saints.
  26. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 11 May 2014 10: 17
    +2
    And they still do not understand that the Americans do not need any plants? They will sell their gas and steel to Europe!
  27. dFG
    dFG 11 May 2014 10: 47
    0
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    And they still do not understand that the Americans do not need any plants? They will sell their gas and steel to Europe!

    here is a kind of elimination of competitors .... in two years three clear results will already go
  28. Giant thought
    Giant thought 11 May 2014 10: 59
    +2
    There are no outsiders in a civil war. In any case, everyone must determine their position, these industrialists, as we see, have already decided. Most of the people would have decided, otherwise, according to Ukrainian tradition, they want to sit aside, but the civilian will get everyone.
  29. Zomanus
    Zomanus 11 May 2014 11: 06
    +2
    Oh, the oligarchs stirred. Revenues are falling, people are worried, this is bad for business. Only now it is necessary to pay not only to the national squads, but also to the right-wingers, so that they would not anger the people. And also the army, so that the working cattle would not scare or distract from work. Oh, and this is such a waste ... In short, we'll see.
  30. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 11 May 2014 11: 20
    0
    It is necessary to stop the plants, announce mobilization to destroy the Nazis.
  31. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 11 May 2014 11: 25
    +1
    Akhmetych got a hope to come to an agreement. In Kiev, nothing will shine for him at all, except that not everything will be taken away, and then there was an opportunity to squeeze out "his own" in an independent territory. He has enough money to buy a new leadership, but there is no competition from other oligarchs. Now he will head Mariupol, where he has one of the fattest assets, it is clear through his sixes as usual, and if not fights he will go to negotiate a "production sharing" with people in Moscow. Considering that Putin has nothing against the oligarchs, there are a lot of options for negotiating profitably. But Akhmetych, in general, is not smart and can play the king of the hill, but due to stupidity, he will most likely lose. Now is the time to explain to the new leadership of Donbas that the only prospect of getting into Russia for them lies through nationalization, then they will be allowed to privatize not the most important thing, but fat, for food, for courage, so to speak.
    1. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 11 May 2014 12: 11
      0
      Nationalization must also be carried out in the mind and on a simple principle:
      1) Was with the junta - confiscate and nationalize the republican property fund.
      2) Not - we respect private property, we have no questions.
      And only in this way - do not step on the same rake that resulted in the Civil War in 1918.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 11 May 2014 18: 45
        0
        Just two questions:
        Quote: Anisim1977
        Nationalization also needs to be carried out in the mind

        ... "in the mind" - how's that?
        Quote: Anisim1977
        we We respect private property, we have no questions.

        What the hell is privatization then? The oligarchs' lawyers will always prove "that black is white and vice versa, and twice two, as much as necessary, will be as much."
        And in addition to the third question: are you sure that the civil war in Russia was unleashed simply in order to "fight"? Comrade Trotsky was put in Russia to give concessions to foreign benefactors, etc.
  32. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 11 May 2014 11: 56
    0
    Quote: Canep
    They had to be buried in a cattle cemetery.

    It is necessary to put a stone at the burial site with the inscription: "Here are buried the grandchildren of Bandera, traitors to Ukraine."
  33. Yellow white
    Yellow white 11 May 2014 12: 13
    0
    ... until the roasted cock in w ... pecks ...
    Well, isn’t it, of course, better late than never!
  34. circumcircle
    circumcircle 11 May 2014 12: 21
    +1
    Akhmetych is trying to sit on two chairs, like an oligarch in Ukraine and not an enemy of Russia, but I would not attribute him to the supporters of federalization. His Dobkin-Kernes line is a line of independence patriots. Therefore, you can not attribute him to the friends of Russia, just like and claimed security groups whose purpose is to strangle the protest movement.
  35. mamont5
    mamont5 11 May 2014 12: 50
    0
    "Business leaders urged Kiev" to abandon the practice of conducting large-scale battles "

    What is it? Rats leave the Ukrainian pelvis or a new tactic?
  36. tomcat117
    tomcat117 11 May 2014 12: 56
    0
    Quote: ctepx
    Quote: domokl
    .And here are the squads ...

    "Formation of squads" actually means - financing the needs of self-defense)).


    "The industrialists of Mariupol will form the people's guards to restore order in the city"

    I am more stressed and alarmed by the phrase "to put things in order in the city." It would be perceived differently if "to resist the banderlog".
    Let's see, we will judge the industrialists by their affairs. It seems that under any power they have one task, to pump money.
  37. Nikxnumx
    Nikxnumx 11 May 2014 14: 21
    +1
    The main thing is not to overdo it.
  38. fif21
    fif21 11 May 2014 14: 45
    0
    What is striking is that, being under fire, people shoot everything that happens on phones. Who is this junta fighting with? With unarmed people !!! Shame on nonhumans !! To the killer jail !! How many criminal cases have been opened on the facts of a premeditated murder? Or do law enforcement officers hide junta crimes? And if this is so, then is it really not clear that the people should protect themselves by any means.
  39. homosum20
    homosum20 11 May 2014 15: 29
    0
    Slavs we or not. You can’t Orthodox in a cattle cemetery. What will we be better than them?
    All of them in The Hague will have to answer with a hanger (it’s not for nothing that the GDP is preparing a White Paper). In general, directors of large enterprises are proteges of the oligarchs. It’s not necessary to deceive oneself.
  40. Everest2014
    Everest2014 11 May 2014 15: 57
    0
    Quote: homosum20
    You can’t Orthodox in a cattle cemetery.

    They generally can not be buried, let their beast eat. The fact that they are of the same faith with us allows them to burn people? Okst guy.
  41. X Y Z
    X Y Z 11 May 2014 16: 18
    0
    They are not Orthodox! You can declare yourself by anyone, even by the Pope. The fact that they know with which hand to be baptized does not mean anything. An Orthodox person cannot behave like that! Among other things, there are many Greek Catholics, and this is generally something incomprehensible and obscene.
  42. Vasya Ko
    Vasya Ko 11 May 2014 16: 26
    0
    The hucksters create their own "self-defense", the property acquired by back-breaking labor to protect. With their own workers. They work during the day, they guard at night, the salary is the same.
  43. siberalt
    siberalt 11 May 2014 17: 36
    0
    Business always feels much more profitable to invest money. And it’s better until they’ve taken it away. Now he benefits from the revival of New Russia in the capitalist version. Oh well.
  44. kelevra
    kelevra 11 May 2014 17: 51
    0
    Let the industrialists defend their business, but, most importantly, that they protect their people, who work for them and make them profit! Let there be squads, we need to give out weapons, not just to throw bottles! We must completely switch to the side of the people, because the whole their business is in the East, they lose a lot. Let them be self-serving, but they can help in the defense of the Southeast.