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Independent “people's republic” proclaimed in Lugansk

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As the RIA News", at a meeting in Lugansk was read a document on the creation of "Lugansk People's Republic".


"The congress of representatives of territorial communities, political parties and public organizations of the Luhansk region proclaims the creation of a sovereign state" Luhansk People's Republic, "reads the document read by the coordinators of the" people's council of the Luhansk region. "

Ukrainian radio "Freedom" notes that several hundred people participated in the April 27 rally.

In addition, the event discussed a referendum scheduled for 11 May, which will raise questions about the Luhansk region as an autonomous republic with expanded powers within Ukraine and the Luhansk region within Ukraine without changing the legal legal status.

As noted by the city site Lugansk 0642.com.ua, the Lugansk militia put forward an ultimatum to the Ukrainian authorities, promising to move to action if their demands are not met.

“Our demands were simple and ordinary - amnesty to all political prisoners, a referendum, the abolition of price increases and tariffs, the Russian language. These elementary requirements are understandable for the government of any civilized country, ”the statement says.

According to the militia, the agreements concluded in Geneva, obliged the Ukrainian authorities to announce an amnesty to the participants of the protests and listen to the south-eastern regions of the country.

"If until 14 hours (15.00 Moscow time) on Tuesday, 29 April, all our requirements, supported by the Geneva agreements, are not met, we consider all the authorities that are in Kiev, anti-people and criminal, and proceed to active actions," message.
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  1. Monk
    Monk April 28 2014 08: 36
    +20
    Good luck young state.
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 28 2014 08: 40
      +3
      see the plan of Crimean events, and you must adhere to it.
    2. domokl
      domokl April 28 2014 08: 41
      +8
      Rushed .... troika on the bumps ... People decided to withdraw from the Kiev authorities ... But this is only the beginning ...
      1. URAL72
        URAL72 April 28 2014 10: 07
        +5
        At last! Now you need to unite the Lugansk and Donetsk region.
    3. Corsair
      Corsair April 28 2014 08: 45
      +14
      Quote: Monk
      Good luck young state.

      Remember the Tatar-Mongol, and the way they divided the individual princes separately, because of their ambitions they were unable to unite in the face of a threat ...

      Why is it not a single republic with the Donetsk region ??? What among the people who led the resistance, there are no people who understand that UNITY IS FORCE?
      1. Hudo
        Hudo April 28 2014 08: 59
        0
        Quote: Corsair
        Why is it not a single republic with the Donetsk region ??? What among the people who led the resistance, there are no people who understand that UNITY IS FORCE?

        Lugansk. Donbass. Actions are coordinated and coordinated in the most thorough manner.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair April 28 2014 09: 04
          +2
          Quote: Hudo
          Lugansk. Donbass. Actions are coordinated and coordinated in the most thorough manner.

          Well, why does it look like: "Who is in the forest, and who is on firewood", at least from the outside (given the differences, Glory to God overcome, between Slavyansk and Donetsk, the group that left the Lugansk SBU and those who remained ..)?
          1. zzz
            zzz April 28 2014 09: 11
            +2
            Quote: Corsair
            Well, why does it look like: "Who is in the forest, and who is like mushrooms," at least from the outside (given the differences, Glory to God overcome, between Slavyansk and Donetsk, the group that left the Lugansk SBU and those who remained ..)?


            Here I am talking about too! Why not one front?
          2. Corsair
            Corsair April 28 2014 09: 36
            +1
            Quote: Corsair
            Well, why does it look like: "Who is in the forest, and who is on firewood", at least from the outside (given the differences, Glory to God overcome, between Slavyansk and Donetsk, the group that left the Lugansk SBU and those who remained ..)?

            In order not to be unfounded, I provide a link to the video in confirmation of what was written.

            http://rutube.ru/video/f7bd011ca6952d97c5dcae632503cab0/

            As can be seen from the plot, coordination between Donetsk and Slavyansk was not until the moment of negotiations ...
      2. comprochikos
        comprochikos April 28 2014 09: 32
        +2
        All SE needs a leader who could unite all the protesting regions. Otherwise, everyone will be transferred separately.
        1. lukke
          lukke April 28 2014 10: 16
          +1
          All SE needs a leader who could unite all the protesting regions. Otherwise, everyone will be transferred separately.
          It also seems to me that it is more optimal to act together and together to the entire South-East - to declare the South-East Ukrainian Republic, which includes Donetsk, Lugansk, etc. area. "Leader" can be collegial - the executive council of the republic or a personal position, in general, good luck to people! although the agenda of the referendum is, to put it mildly, loyal, the maximum they can do is to increase the rights as a subject of Ukraine, but this has already happened in the history of the country - in Crimea. Then all their statuses of autonomy, etc. Kiev gradually brought to naught, and appointed the head of Sevastopol for the edification of the city personally, when in all other regions this post was elective. Practice shows: ask (demand) the maximum - maybe you will get what you need.
      3. avt
        avt April 28 2014 09: 46
        +3
        Quote: Corsair
        Why is it not a single republic with the Donetsk region ??? What among the people who led the resistance, there are no people who understand that UNITY IS FORCE?

        Get ahead! Plus to you. Unfortunately Bolotov can’t really agree with Mozgov, but here it’s not childish to agree with Donetsk. Very sorry ! Missing time and a real opportunity to gain such a force, against which they simply poke punishers massively, no mercenaries will be enough.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair April 28 2014 11: 43
          +1
          Quote: avt
          Plus to you.
          Mutually.
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 28 2014 08: 49
      +4
      Quote: Monk
      Good luck young state.

      Like yes, reading this ..
      "The congress of representatives of territorial communities, political parties and public organizations of the Luhansk region proclaims the creation of a sovereign state" Luhansk People's Republic, "reads the document read by the coordinators of the" people's council of the Luhansk region. "

      But reading further about which state we are talking about ?????
      In addition, the event discussed a referendum scheduled for 11 May, which will raise questions about the Luhansk region as an autonomous republic with expanded powers within Ukraine and the Luhansk region within Ukraine without changing the legal legal status.
      As I understand it, they are not going to separate from Ukraine, or I can’t understand anything request
      1. igor_m_p
        igor_m_p April 28 2014 09: 02
        +1
        The material is quite modest. According to the excerpts that are given here, it is difficult to assemble the picture as a whole. For example, an excerpt about the discussion of the status of the Luhansk region can be understood in different ways. It is possible that the options that it says about (an autonomous republic or status does not change) are options that have not passed, perhaps something else. Excerpts taken out of context, you need to wait for clarifications.
      2. Corsair
        Corsair April 28 2014 09: 20
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        As I understand it, they are not going to separate from Ukraine, or I can’t understand anything

        Everything mixed up in the Oblonsky house ...
      3. Stanislas
        Stanislas April 28 2014 11: 19
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They, as I understand it, are not going to separate from Ukraine
        They are not going ahead of time to fall under the article for separatism. First - autonomy with expanded powers within Ukraine, then, if necessary, separation and accession to the Russian Federation.
    5. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 28 2014 09: 03
      +3
      Ukrians who can confirm, and Oleg Slavyansk while sleeping or left for work sad
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 28 2014 09: 49
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ukrians fellow (corsair mark), who can confirm, and Oleg Slavyansk while sleeping or left for work

        Confirm or deny can probably only people who are close to the place of events, but probably they are not quite up to it ...
      2. Makarov
        Makarov April 28 2014 10: 30
        0
        now there seems to be a battle ....
        1. serzh 58
          serzh 58 April 28 2014 11: 22
          0
          Nothing is going on there, but there are prerequisites.
      3. serzh 58
        serzh 58 April 28 2014 11: 20
        +1
        Silence for now.
    6. 120352
      120352 April 28 2014 09: 23
      +2
      But this path will be truly good, if you do not act each on its own (there simply won't be enough strength), but unite together. All Donbass, all New Russia. Then "Good luck"!
      1. Vita_vko
        Vita_vko April 28 2014 10: 16
        +1
        The DNI militia, led by Strelkov, yesterday promised to knock out Ukrainian specialists from the Kramatorsk airfield. These people do not throw words in the wind. According to Russia 24, shooting is now heard there. Apparently, the cleaning of the airfield from the special forces of the Kiev junta began. Good luck to you guys !!!
    7. Validator
      Validator April 28 2014 09: 49
      +7
      Dark chocolate for the junta - a gift for the May holidays
      1. Victor-M
        Victor-M April 28 2014 09: 57
        +2
        The answer to the Ukrainian "chocolate" hare.
        Poroshenko shiver. laughing
    8. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 28 2014 10: 05
      +2
      Quote: Monk
      Good luck young state.

      baby talk ... if the east does not unite under one leadership, the "young states" will disappear just as they appeared.
      1. Monk
        Monk April 28 2014 10: 39
        0
        come back on March 16th and can understand.
    9. AVV
      AVV April 28 2014 11: 11
      0
      Quote: Monk
      Good luck young state.

      But Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Avakov and Poroshenko with Yulka do not fall under Amnesty, sit with them until the end of the century, or run to smoked Obama in America !!!
  2. Kodar 75
    Kodar 75 April 28 2014 08: 38
    +3
    It’s better to be part of Russia, guys ...
    1. domokl
      domokl April 28 2014 08: 42
      +4
      Alas, the majority there still feel that they are not Russian citizens ... 23 years of dirt in ears and eyes did the trick. And it will be difficult to wash this dirt ... At least for now ...
      1. 120352
        120352 April 28 2014 09: 26
        0
        The best "cleanser" in this situation is the TRUTH and knowledge of history.
      2. Blondy
        Blondy April 28 2014 13: 10
        0
        Well, yes, of course, all h.ohly stupid and maydanutye. They found paradise on earth - Russia with its oligarchs, corruption and bureaucracy. The best option for them is an independent entity, such as Transnistria. Ukrainian debts are becoming Western, our own steep industrial base, we will help - wherever we go. All the buns are obvious even without Russian flaws. Let them understand their own. And who starts to rock on them, so Kozhugetych will forever with great pleasure press the desired navel.
        1. Cutter
          Cutter April 28 2014 14: 07
          0
          In principle, I agree. But there is in your words ... Enough already talking about "unwashed" Russia! What are the oligarchs? It has long been a vertical of government officials. Bureaucracy, yes, it is in any system. But what about corruption? This is the question! Everything is much more complicated here friends! If the result of corrupt transactions and relations leads to the undermining of the country's defense capability, creates the preconditions for a threat to the loss of the country's integrity, the loss of one of the sovereignty, or threatens the loss of property, life or health of citizens, then this is definitely a crime and such acts should be severely prosecuted. But in other cases, there is a "misunderstanding". The corruption component is in some way one of our national traits of mentality. Since childhood, we have all got used to living according to the "pull" of a relative or taking into account acquaintances. For any of our preferences, we are ready to repay financially. It is in our blood. To be honest, everyone look deep into yourself, remember when and how many times in your life, you used a corruption scheme at a small household level, starting from the placement of children in a kindergarten, school etc., getting a better place at work, Serving in organizations with a large flow of "suffering". I'm not talking about communicating with representatives of state, registration, regulatory structures or traffic police. "Why do the right fire protection?" I will give the inspector "dough" and order. You will be surprised at the result. Looking deep into history, you find something interesting! It turns out that we ALWAYS lived like this! This is our national way of life, if you will. The truth is only concerned (justifies) the everyday level. Stupidity in general. It seems bad, but on the other hand, if it weren't, we won't be Russians. Therefore, I am always smiling and skeptical about the next call to fight corruption.
    2. nablydatel
      nablydatel April 28 2014 08: 48
      +1
      Everything has its time drinks
    3. igor_m_p
      igor_m_p April 28 2014 09: 06
      +1
      Not the fact that the majority of the population agrees with this option. Better to start a referendum. And only then, according to the results of the referendum, it will be possible ... to hold another referendum smile Well, Russia’s consent is still required, and it’s also not a fact that our government will now take such a step ...
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 28 2014 10: 09
      +1
      Quote: Kodar75
      It’s better to be part of Russia, guys ...

      Are you sure that we need this hemorrhage? They are now asking for help, but in five to ten years, we will become "occupiers" ... after all, we are different ...
  3. asar
    asar April 28 2014 08: 38
    +1
    Cool ultimatum! God bless you! Russia is with you! love drinks
    1. mnbv199
      mnbv199 April 28 2014 08: 47
      +3
      Talk about the accusation of Viktor Tsoi as a CIA agent, the visit of the CIA director to Ukraine, the cause of the American invasion of Ukraine, the popular uprising in Ukraine, the US geopolitical trap, the preparation of the Moscow Maidan, the split of the Russian elite and the rising Russian rebellion.
      1. Normal
        Normal April 28 2014 09: 24
        -1
        Quote: mnbv199
        Talk about accusing Viktor Tsoi as an agent of the CIA,


        Well, how much can you lay out the paranoia of this demagogue? After all, he breaches how he breathes - unconsciously and easily.
        Fedorov’s statements about Tsoi clearly show what ALL of his allegations are worth.
        Correctly said about him Demura:


        Here are a couple of videos from which you can clearly see who Fedorov is and what Fedorov is.


        Watch from 4: 20


        Well, about Tsoi

        And then
        United Russia member Fedorov disowned the words about Tsoi's work for the CIA: all this is the intrigues of the "fifth column"

        United Russia member Fedorov disowned the words about Tsoi's work for the CIA: all this is the intrigues of the "fifth column"
        United Russia member Yevgeny Fyodorov said that the son of Viktor Tsoi, who complained about the politician to the Investigative Committee for the words about the cooperation of the late artist with the CIA, "someone is setting up." The United Russia deputy demanded that law enforcement officers find those guilty of slandering themselves, stressing that "Tsoi's son became a victim of this propaganda campaign" and the "fifth column" that discredits Tsoi and spreads false information. "

        The parliamentarian emphasized that he did not speak about any connections between Father Alexander Tsoi and the American intelligence service and accused all the media. "The media in Russia said that Tsoi is a CIA agent, for some reason he attributed these words to me," Yevgeny Fyodorov said categorically.
        www.nakanune.ru/news/2014/4/25/22350491/


        It is necessary to treat this deputy ... BY ELECTRICITY ...
        1. gandalf
          gandalf April 28 2014 10: 31
          +2
          The first video is frank insults of a person, without arguments against. It is difficult to judge what Fedorov said somewhere without reference to this. But judging by the remark, selling ideas is profitable. Google, facebook are ideas sold. And if it was said in the context of the development of small business - then in general. And then, after insults, he begins to talk about what Fedorov says - about the private Central Bank, about his role as a converter, about his insubordination to the government ... But he doesn’t offer anything to change.

          Second video - is the law fully analyzed? He said part of the law for paying tribute. And in other places of the law, there may well be positive aspects, and here, in the fight against the SGA, it was possible to push through the necessary things only this way.

          The third video is an obvious distortion of words. "They prefer to be" is a score behavior people who do not want to participate in the active political life of the country, and not the people themselves. those. acting like a pig and being a pig are two different things.

          About Tsoi - he himself answered, more than. Moreover, Kucheren does not go to court - he knows that he will lose and that he has misinterpreted the words.
          1. Normal
            Normal April 28 2014 11: 05
            -2
            Quote: gandalf
            The first video - frank insults of a person

            A statement of fact is not an insult.

            Quote: gandalf
            It is difficult to judge what Fedorov said somewhere without reference to this.

            Fear God, what are the links? Fedorov has said so much that there is no more space left on the Internet.
            Quote: gandalf
            Second video - is the law fully analyzed? He said part of the law for paying tribute. And in other places of the law, there may well be positive aspects, and here, in the fight against the SGA, it was possible to push through the necessary things only this way.

            It’s not a matter of law, but Fedorov’s demagogy. He says one thing, does the exact opposite, and then claims that he didn’t say anything and that’s all the machinations of the fifth column. In general, we are in occupation, Fedorov is certainly against the words, but in reality he can do nothing and follows the instructions of the Washington Regional Committee - these are the rules. wink
            Quote: gandalf
            The third video is an obvious distortion of words. "They prefer to be" is an assessment of the behavior of people who do not want to participate in the active political life of the country, and not the people themselves. those. behaving like a pig and being a pig are two different things.

            Do not engage in verbiage and demagogy. The word - not a sparrow, flew out - you will not catch. But I have ears and eyes, and I don’t need to say that I do not hear the wrong thing.

            Quote: gandalf
            About Tsoi - he himself answered, more than.

            Exactly! At first, as usual, he drove away the blizzard, with a smart look he threw out the bullshit sucked from his finger, and then he refused his words, allegedly they perverted him and did not understand, the fifth column was to blame.

            Quote: gandalf
            And Kucherena does not go to court

            He is suing a pro-government deputy ... Yeah ... Especially in light of the latest claims by the GDP that the Internet is a CIA project. We will soon have ALL that is not in line with pro-government will be the CIA project and the fifth column.
            By the way, Fedorov also doesn’t run to court with Demur’s claims.
            1. Stanislas
              Stanislas April 28 2014 11: 28
              0
              Quote: Normal
              CIA Internet project.
              There are doubts that the American battle control system went from the Pentagon directly into the civilian sphere without the active mediation of the CIA?
            2. gandalf
              gandalf April 28 2014 12: 41
              0
              Fear God, what are the links? Fedorov has said so much that there is no more space left on the Internet.


              If possible, give a link to those statements that were discussed (selling ideas).

              Not in the law, but in Fedorov’s demagogy

              He says the right thing.

              And fighting surrounded by the enemy is a complex art. Here it is necessary to analyze, and not tear out phrases from the context and attack them.

              Regarding demagogy - I told you, behaving like a pig and being a pig are two different things.
              If you find an insult to yourself here (with Fedorov), then I understand that you need to act and not sit on the couch.

              By the way, something Fedorov also does not run to the court with Demur’s claims.

              I would not go in his place either. I do not pay attention to the yard dogs, who decided to bark me. Spending time on the ignoramus is a pity. Blinded something there. He may not be aware of his statements.
              As V.V. Putin - "Pulled out of your nose and smeared on paper."

              About Tsoi - again, without seeing anything offensive in Fedorov’s statements, I will remind you about Joanna Stingray. Remember this one?

              http://russrock.ru/kalend/5032-dzhoanna-stingrejj.html

              Think for yourself, where did the unsuccessful singer get the desire (!) And the opportunity (!) To visit the USSR? In a country that scared babies, which they were afraid to visit as tourists, for bears walk on the streets. Come, organize, help. Where did she get the money?

              In the middle of 90's, she returned to the states and ... silence. No high-profile career as a singer or producer.
              Maybe a conspiracy theory, but for me - the agent is returned to his homeland.

              In November 2004 Joanna Stingray and her daughter Madison visited Russia, playing a jam at the Moscow B2 club and organizing a short meeting at the St. Petersburg Platform.

              An attempt to "unfreeze" agent connections. It didn't work out, you see. Or maybe it happened - Makarevich suddenly stood under the Bandera flags.

              Our similar methods were used. If you have not read, read Yu.I. Drozdova.
              http://lib.ru/MEMUARY/DROZDOW/nelegal.txt
              1. Normal
                Normal April 28 2014 19: 14
                0
                gandalfу
                I already realized that you do not just agree with Fedorov, but you are also his follower and, in a dispute with your opponent, use a simple Fedorov’s trick - demagogy.
                Therefore, I see no reason to continue communication. This post is your last. Of course, there is almost no hope, but I’ll try to show you where and what you are mistaken about. So.
                Quote: gandalf
                If possible, give a link to those statements that were discussed (selling ideas).

                You see, Pavel, the videos with Fedorov's verbiage are so long and numerous that I have neither the desire nor the opportunity to spend tens of hours trying to find this particular statement. If Demura mentioned "selling ideas" then he read or heard this from Fedorov. So look for yourself, Google to help.
                Quote: gandalf
                Regarding demagogy - I told you, behaving like a pig and being a pig are two different things.
                If you find an insult to yourself here (with Fedorov), then I understand that you need to act and not sit on the couch.

                This is demagogy. Whatever it is, I’ll write you.

                Fedorov:
                -I answer; people don’t want ... they prefer to be slaves lackeys ...

                Where did you hear "different things" here? The deputy expresses himself concretely and unambiguously. Your attempt to stab me with the fact that I allegedly find here an insult to myself, and you are not sitting on the couch like that in white, but acting is a cheap demagogic trick.
                Quote: gandalf
                And fighting surrounded by the enemy is a complex art

                And where did you see the fight in the den of the enemy?
                Enemy's Lair - State Duma of the Russian Federation?
                Enemy's Lair - Faction of the United Russia Party in the State Duma of the Russian Federation?
                Or maybe the den of the enemy is all of Russia in general? Indeed, according to Fedorov, we have an occupation.
                And where is this struggle? This?

                Fedorov:
                - If you define the nature of your country as a colony, this is a standard character, many countries have been in such a situation, then the answer is the technology for overcoming this status. Not technology to persuade the minister to do something, it does not depend on him, but political technology, that is, the national liberation movement, the national liberation struggle as a technology to restore the country's sovereignty ...

                A characteristic example of Fedorov’s demagogy. No need to force ministers and officials to work, no need to prosecute them for crimes (nothing depends on them anyway), it’s necessary to fight the people in liberation!
                And Fedorov himself is acting in full accordance with his program; as a deputy (and therefore a part of Power) clearly fulfills the instructions of the "occupational" administration and votes in the Duma only as needed by external administration, and as a part of the people moves nationally in freedom, fights for national liberation. Very convenient!

                Continuation of the next
              2. Normal
                Normal April 28 2014 19: 15
                0
                Read more.

                Quote: gandalf
                He says the right thing.


                Really ??? belay Is it true?
                And what did he say right? What is Russia in occupation and under external control?
                Take the trouble to find the meaning of the word "occupation". Maybe you will understand.
                In the meantime, I’ll tell you that there are only one aircraft in the territory. This is the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Are they the occupying forces?
                In the territory of the Russian Federation there is only one administration - these are the authorities of the Russian Federation. Are they the occupation administration?
                And take the trouble to understand how a country under occupation and under external control conducts an independent foreign policy. How did the Russian Federation, contrary to the will of external control, prevent the West from bombing Syria?
                How, being in the occupation, Russia annexed Crimea? Or did the invaders give us good? Or maybe occupation exists only in the paranoid imagination of Fedorov?

                Quote: gandalf
                About Tsoi - again, without seeing anything offensive in Fedorov’s statements, I will remind you about Joanna Stingray. Remember this one?

                But what about? Of course I remember. I will say more: I did not doubt for a second what organization this lady worked for.
                But the conversation was not about Stingray, but that Choi wrote the lyrics of his songs ... no, not the CIA, better!

                Fedorov:
                - and found out that all the last songs, Choi himself did not know how to write them, he wrote them in a team, they brought him from America ... from ... from America ... Professionally in Hollywood people wrote songs in Russian ...

                Full APOFIGEY!

                Quote: gandalf
                Our similar methods were used.

                Oh yeah ??? Did the cinematography committee write texts for the Beatles, Rawlings and Jim Morrison?
                laughing

                In general, I cannot wish you good luck in your difficult demagogic work.
                Farewell. hi
      2. Tanechka-clever
        Tanechka-clever April 28 2014 10: 58
        0
        My personal many thanks to "mnbv199" for the video posted.

        Evgeny Fedorov should be read and watched - and his like-minded people will join - and then the 5-column in Russia will lose, but I think it will not be a joke - the laws "you can buy everyone, it's just a matter of price" and "there are traitors in every nation - more or less - they just need to be endowed with either power or money "while in the world they work to unite or destroy every nation
  4. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 28 2014 08: 39
    +16
    Hurray, I'm a witness!
    Some even cried!
    Now, brothers, we hold out!
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 28 2014 08: 45
      +3
      Hurray, I'm a witness!
      Some even cried!
      Now, brothers, we hold out!
      we are happy for you and we are with you. Help the Slavs, Slavyansk now, as in due time Peter cannot be turned in.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair April 28 2014 08: 48
      +3
      Quote: Gagarin
      Now, brothers, we hold out!

      Good luck, but hold out only when you are ONE with the Donetsk region ...
      The creation of "destinations" is repeated (see my comment above).
    3. Blondy
      Blondy April 28 2014 09: 51
      0
      Congratulations. Hold on. Urgently create parallel government agencies. Use the imminent Victory Day holiday to awaken your memory. The right story is a powerful force.

      It would be desirable to immediately form a republic of the same type of Donetsk. Easier to integrate. Even autonomy is Kiev long. In addition, are you ready to participate in the presidential elections in Kiev, and do you already have your own candidate among the registered ones? You are sure that the central authority created after May 25 will confirm your autonomy and will not abolish it in the future. You will have to obey - otherwise it will already be a separatist rebellion. The army and power structures will in a different way carry out the orders of legitimate authorities, without any internal confusion and vacillations about the oath and whether it is possible to fight with your people.
  5. cybernetick
    cybernetick April 28 2014 08: 43
    +1
    It’s time to rise to create an army south-east or the Nazis will crush you. Curfew must be introduced. See Latynina in the swamps, take her for a walk.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair April 28 2014 09: 06
      0
      Quote: cybernetick
      See Latynina in the swamps, take her for a walk.

      It is difficult to find a swamp in the steppes of Donbass ...
      But there are vertical trunks, quarries, etc ...
  6. zzz
    zzz April 28 2014 08: 43
    +4
    I understand that Lugansk is on its own, and Donetsk itself? Do the goals seem to not quite coincide? Or am I not catching up with something? Well, they will be promised extended powers, so what? Today they promised, tomorrow they refused promises. .....
    1. Corsair
      Corsair April 28 2014 09: 08
      +1
      Quote: zzz
      I understand that Lugansk is on its own, and Donetsk itself? Do the goals seem to not quite coincide? Or am I not catching up with something?

      From the flow of information available in the media, the Internet, calls from Ukraine, and I have such a double feeling ...
    2. igor_m_p
      igor_m_p April 28 2014 09: 09
      0
      Yes, this has already happened with the Crimea. Also at first extended powers were given. How it all ended everyone saw.
  7. Sergg
    Sergg April 28 2014 08: 44
    +4
    repost


    John Kerry provided an ultimatum to Alexander Turchinov to put an end to everything that happens in the Southeast until Tuesday, April 29. Otherwise, all their foreign accounts will be blocked, but for the Kiev authorities this is like death. Infinite impudence does not know its limit. States act openly. Dear Ukrainian friends.

    Apparently, there is still a lot. But the Russian army is standing on the border, waiting for an order. Your lives will be protected. Crimea, in turn, is ready to provide you with everything you need.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 28 2014 08: 52
      +2
      Quote: Sergg
      John Kerry provided an ultimatum to Alexander Turchinov to put an end to everything that happens in the Southeast until Tuesday, April 29.

      Give a link to your repost. AUuuuuuuu, already half an hour has passed, the link will be to the repost, or did you come up with it yourself?
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 28 2014 09: 09
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Give a link to your repost

        I support! Very interesting information ...
      2. igor_m_p
        igor_m_p April 28 2014 09: 11
        +1
        Yes, I would also like a pruflink ...
    2. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR April 28 2014 09: 10
      0
      This is disinformation from contact; Aksenov has no Facebook account.
    3. 120352
      120352 April 28 2014 09: 32
      0
      For Trupchinov and Co., there is now one right path: to go over to the side of the insurgent people and overthrow their own power, having previously disarmed (or shot) the "right sector" and similar gangs.
  8. nablydatel
    nablydatel April 28 2014 08: 46
    +2
    Quote: Gagarin
    Hurray, I'm a witness!
    Some even cried!
    Now, brothers, we hold out!

    FIRST, IT IS NECESSARY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH THE BORDER OF THE ADJACENT STATES soldier
    AND THERE WILL EVERYTHING GO IMMEDIATELY AS OIL love
  9. rugor
    rugor April 28 2014 08: 49
    +4
    Quote: zzz
    I understand that Lugansk is on its own, and Donetsk itself? Do the goals seem to not quite coincide? Or am I not catching up with something? Well, they will be promised extended powers, so what? Today they promised, tomorrow they refused promises. .....


    It does not matter who and with whom, it is important against whom !!! It is necessary to swing the junta into federalization, and there everyone will claim sovereignty as much as he can. Nobody will divide Ukraine; they will be part of one country in the region with maximum independence from the center.
    1. gandalf
      gandalf April 28 2014 09: 10
      0
      will be part of one country of the region with maximum independence from the center.


      And then it is necessary to treat the west of Ukraine from the infection. How? Well, I think you can find "doctors" of different specialties from psychiatrist to surgeon.
  10. Monk
    Monk April 28 2014 08: 50
    0
    Quote: Corsair
    Quote: Monk
    Good luck young state.

    Remember the Tatar-Mongol, and the way they divided the individual princes separately, because of their ambitions they were unable to unite in the face of a threat ...

    Why not a single republic with the Donetsk region ???


    Do you like rushing things ...
    1. Corsair
      Corsair April 28 2014 09: 13
      0
      Quote: Monk
      Do you like rushing things ...

      Procrastination of death is like ... By the way, I didn’t say, CLASSIC! And who-who, and he knew a lot about such things.
  11. mig31
    mig31 April 28 2014 08: 51
    +2
    The regiments arrive, they need arsenals ...
  12. Sergg
    Sergg April 28 2014 08: 52
    +3
    And I want to quote the words of Sergei Aksenov:


    And one thing is clear from all that is happening: it will no longer be as it was. Will not be. A people with a different mentality, different views on the life of their state in the future will no longer unite in a single country "Ukraine". Southeast will be part of Russia. The United States will no longer be the dictator of the whole world. The world will no longer be unipolar. This so-called “country”, mired in great sins, will be responsible for everything according to the results of what is happening.

    An attempt to destroy the relationship between the Slavic peoples will end in a huge failure and this will be their last point in the history of the American authorities. Because they encroach on the most sacred that is on this Earth. They encroach on the Slavic world. Napoleon, Hitler also made similar attempts. But their end is clear. No wonder, the United States is waiting for it. ”
  13. targitai
    targitai April 28 2014 08: 54
    +4
    I just can’t imagine how the referendum will be held on May 11 in the DPR, with so many Kiev security forces on their territory.
  14. zzz
    zzz April 28 2014 08: 58
    +3
    Quote: Targitai
    I just can’t imagine how the referendum will be held on May 11 in the DPR, with so many Kiev security forces on their territory.


    If there are observers (as in Crimea), then they dare not take up arms.
    1. targitai
      targitai April 28 2014 09: 40
      +1
      Just observers, I think, will not change the situation. The same ballot boxes with leaflets need to be transported to each village, and for this we need control over the entire region
      1. gandalf
        gandalf April 28 2014 12: 47
        0
        Just like three "languages" were brought from Gorlovka to Slavyansk. wink
  15. sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 28 2014 08: 59
    +3
    Good luck!!! Glory to the people of Lugansk!
  16. Horly
    Horly April 28 2014 09: 05
    +4
    Something I’ve already lost count in the declaration of the newly-minted republics: Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Southeast, etc. But what's the point, even if they cannot put things in order as part of the regional centers: in Donetsk, everyone is lazy - starting from Tymoshenko and ending with Khodorkovsky, in Kharkiv, maydaunas beat pro-Russian activists, in Odessa, radicals set up checkpoints! Besides declarations on republics, is anything else being done? Or is everyone waiting for the referendum on May 11 - like, the main thing is to stand, and then everything will change by itself? So this will not happen - in Kiev and the West they will not recognize him and everything will continue further - only much tougher! No, guys, in order to hold on, you need to throw out all the law-enforcement officers and patrons, draw borders and begin to build the economic system, otherwise you simply get offended in the face of your own people - judging by the statements of local residents, they are primarily interested in the bathhouse component, and this is necessary consider: watch TV interviews with miners and others - talk about low salaries and how to give loans. So while I have more questions than answers, and the most important one is how will this collapse come out of?
  17. saag
    saag April 28 2014 09: 11
    +3
    Quote: Corsair
    Why not a single republic with the Donetsk region ???

    Everyone wants to be the main thing, therefore, city-states are formed, would be farsighted and wiser would form something single, but for now the satisfaction of their own ambitions
    1. Corsair
      Corsair April 28 2014 09: 17
      +1
      Quote: saag
      In the meantime, the satisfaction of their own ambitions

      For many, this can "crawl out sideways" ...
  18. Chaplain52
    Chaplain52 April 28 2014 09: 11
    +2
    The May 11 referendum will be calm if a peacekeeping contingent is introduced on May 9.
    We will preserve order for 2 days, if luck is on our side, then without shots. And after the referendum is already on (semi) legal grounds, we will be present there.
    Although the results of the vote are not obvious to me, all the same, Donetsk is not Crimea.
  19. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever April 28 2014 09: 17
    +3
    But can someone explain to me the following
    - in Lugansk announced the creation of a sovereign state that is - about an INDEPENDENT
    "The congress of representatives of territorial communities, political parties and public organizations of the Luhansk region proclaims the creation of a sovereign state" Luhansk People's Republic, "reads the document read by the coordinators of the" people's council of the Luhansk region. "

    - but in a referendum on an autonomous republic - but can an autonomous one be sovereign

    Who is fooling anyone - I ask someone to explain to me - I will be very grateful
    1. Mhpv
      Mhpv April 28 2014 09: 48
      +3
      Someone in the forest, and some for firewood.
      In short, "an independent state within Ukraine" - you can't imagine more delirium fool This is probably why some of the people went to the camp for martial law from the SBU building, and they said that sitting there only dampens. request
      1. Tanechka-clever
        Tanechka-clever April 28 2014 11: 48
        0
        "Some in the woods, and some for firewood"
        Or maybe it was conceived from Kiev - in order to win, you need to break and caress someone, or even better to lead yourself. And the people are the masses - where the leader will lead there and will go under the "people's" slogans. After all, it worked out in Kiev - the slogans were the same, but the goals of the leaders at the head of these speeches were different and they did everything
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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 28 2014 09: 38
      0
      Quote: Tyundey
      Nonsense. Sounds like a setup

      Maybe yes, maybe not.
  21. individual
    individual April 28 2014 09: 43
    +1
    On the eve of CIA D. Brennan's secret trip to Kiev near Donetsk, fifty American citizens disappeared without a trace - employees of the private military companies "Greystone"whom Kolomoisky sent to pacify the Donbass.
    They were previously dressed in the uniform of the special forces of Ukraine "Sokol".
    So, according to rumors, these birds were transferred to Russia, where Moscow experts talk with them.
    They told a lot about:
    It was not Kolomoisky who recruited them, but the CIA leadership and personally John Brennan.
    The CIA Director also appeared with an agreement on the illegal supply of weapons to Ukraine ...
    D. Brennon's secret visit to save himself and the Obama administration from collapse.
    It is no coincidence that the overseas recalled Iran-Contra and Irangate, which cost a considerable number of high-ranking American officials a career.
    Now trade is going on for Russia to remain silent on mutually beneficial conditions.
    Well, we are waiting for the development of events.
    1. Horly
      Horly April 28 2014 09: 49
      +2
      Where does this information come from? If possible, then discard the link ...
    2. zzz
      zzz April 28 2014 10: 25
      0
      Quote: individ
      Now trade is going on for Russia to remain silent on mutually beneficial conditions.
      Well, we are waiting for the development of events.


      How interesting !!! Well, if true, a lot could be negotiated! I think that it’s true, because the hysteria among amers and in Europe just rolls over.
  22. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 28 2014 09: 45
    0
    Someone was right when he said that as soon as one region leaves the state, everything will start to fall apart. Let's look at the "parade of sovereignties" on the example of the Russian Empire or the USSR. If rogue from Western Ukraine stick together, the richer regions of the East will refuse to feed them , and will try to fence themselves off one way or another. You see, already now, 10% of the salary is being taken away from the miners "for the restoration of Kiev." not Russia, but the junta in Kiev itself gave the Crimea a "kick", they thought that they would teach "to love the homeland", but it turned out that they "kicked" him towards Russia, and when they realized "the train had already left."
  23. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 28 2014 09: 56
    +1
    We must talk hard with the junta, they do not deserve anything else.
  24. siberalt
    siberalt April 28 2014 09: 58
    +1
    Not enough information. Whose power is in local government? To whom is the police, security service, courts subordinate? Where does the financing of the same social network come from? A new republic needs its own constitution (it was in the Crimea). If an independent republic is proclaimed, then why think to recognize the Kiev junta as illegitimate? Many misunderstandings.
  25. Lelek
    Lelek April 28 2014 09: 59
    +2
    While the regions (proclaimed autonomies) will act separately, they can be strangled one by one. To act together, with a united front, is that fist that will not allow the Maidan clique to break them. The holy duty of Russia to fully support autonomy, not paying attention to the whistle of Western whoopers. I think so. soldier
    1. Tanechka-clever
      Tanechka-clever April 28 2014 11: 25
      0
      "the obligation of Russia to fully support the autonomies"
      How can you help those who have not yet decided what they want. Many of them still have fermentation in their minds - I don’t want to just voice these thoughts out loud - after all, all Ukrainian presidents are from the people, deputies "to and fro - to snatch more with the fear of being out of the game" also from the people and this says a lot. To be a patriot and go to the end - there are not many leaders among the leaders. And therefore, Russia does not have much money to spend on sponsoring another oligarch who will abandon the people and hide along with the money, it seems to me there is no point. Russia already helps and helped and pulls this load alone, while the presidents of Ukraine have been flirting with European integration all this time
  26. dimdimich71
    dimdimich71 April 28 2014 10: 09
    +1
    Monday, April 28, 2014
    US puts ultimatum Kiev junta


    What a twist! John Kerry provided an ultimatum to Alexander Turchinov to put an end to everything that happens in the Southeast until Tuesday, April 29. Otherwise, all their foreign accounts will be blocked, but for the Kiev authorities this is like death.
    Infinite impudence does not know its limit. States act openly.

    Dear Ukrainian friends. Apparently, there is still a lot. But the Russian army is standing on the border, waiting for an order. Your lives will be protected. Crimea, in turn, is ready to provide you with everything you need!
  27. gav6757
    gav6757 April 28 2014 10: 19
    +1
    And, until now, they considered this power legitimate? They just now realized that we need to act more actively ... Well, very fast guys!
    NEEDED - urgently to carry out explanatory and propaganda work in military units, to carry out work among young people, to seize military units and depots, to arm their supporters ...
    Act guys, act !!!
    1. od7
      od7 April 28 2014 10: 30
      +3
      Maybe you will go to seize military units and depots? True, according to the charter, the guard shoots to defeat. Can you tear yourself away from the keyboard and take a chance?
  28. mackonya
    mackonya April 28 2014 10: 49
    0
    "You are going the right way, comrades!" - V. I. Lenin
  29. Lavrov
    Lavrov April 28 2014 10: 51
    +1
    Quote: Giant thought
    We must talk hard with the junta, they do not deserve anything else.


    There is no need to talk to the junta at all.
    To hope for God and not to cry on our own.
  30. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 April 28 2014 11: 12
    0
    several hundred ... Damn little.
  31. kelevra
    kelevra April 28 2014 11: 55
    0
    Well done, now create a semblance of the National Guard so that there are defenders, confiscate weapons from the SBU and the police, if it’s not with you, and then it will turn in the back with these weapons! Declare one thing, you still need to build a defense!
  32. Ross
    Ross April 28 2014 12: 05
    +1
    Quote: domokl
    Rushed .... troika on the bumps ... People decided to withdraw from the Kiev authorities ... But this is only the beginning ...

    But where did they get it? Read the note carefully: autonomy within Ukraine.
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 April 28 2014 15: 32
      0
      That is autonomy. Doesn’t it resemble anything? ARC .. had its own parliament and local authorities .. legitimate !!!! That allowed them to first declare independence, and then hold a referendum on joining the Russian Federation. Administrative unit - the region does not have such powers.
      So the guys are doing it right. First autonomy. Then the elections of the local parliament and authorities, and only then everything else .. RF, Little Russia .. Mexico, Holland ..
  33. sv68
    sv68 April 28 2014 13: 28
    0
    independence must be defended, the first-by force and the second-collectively and purposefully. know how to go beyond conversations and rallies-Russia with you.
  34. dkflbvbh
    dkflbvbh April 28 2014 13: 56
    0
    Damn, already got grief-patriots. No one wants to think of anything. Come on, cheers, and what come on, cheers - according to X ..
  35. Vital 33
    Vital 33 April 28 2014 14: 59
    0
    Well, it must be ... "several hundred people gathered ..." and "proclaimed the Luhansk People's Republic" ... yes-ah ... this is damn cool. Why not the Luhansk Galactic Empire ??? As I understand it, the "republic" includes the SBU building and the adjacent "village"? About 100 per 100 m2 ... In Donetsk, too ... a republic of 500 people ... Although they took a sedative in Kharkov, and the people do not laugh.