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Battlefield- Caucasus

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Battlefield- Caucasus



The cycle of civil war in Ukraine ousted the topic of Dagestan from the Russian media. Before the “Ukrainian Spring”, Dagestan was the most popular region in terms of citation and commenting. The general context of the statements was reduced to straightforward phrases: "there is a war", "everything is bad there" and "there live gangsters who rape our girls in Moscow". Hooray - the patriots called for the fact that Dagestan should be separated from Russia by a concrete wall with barbed wire, and the liberals - to give Dagestan "free" and separate from Russia forever. Both those and others agreed that Dagestan is a region that is better to keep on a chain and in general “enough to feed him”.

And how much does an ordinary Russian understand the problems of Dagestan? Why did this republic suddenly become for the Russian people an enemy territory? The Dagestan political scientist Muhammad Avari talked about this with "Tomorrow"

"TOMORROW". In today's Russia, when they talk about the Caucasus, they certainly add the verb "to feed." Once again, the notorious "Caucasian issue" is being discussed, and once again in a negative light. They say: Caucasians are bad because they are wild, others ... Tell me, why did the Caucasian question arise in the Russian public consciousness, which is always interpreted in a negative light?

Muhammad Awara. Once again, a crisis of confidence has arisen between central Russia and the Caucasus. Russia, like during the years of the Caucasian war, treats the Highlanders as a forcibly attached alien element. Some Dagestanis began to perceive Russia as a predatory imperial metropolis, and this attitude is transferred to the Russians. As a Dagestan and a citizen of Russia, I urge that Dagestanis and Russians be historical allies. Russians are a people of respect. The way, customs and moral standards of the Russian years 100 - 150 ago were no different from the way and customs of my native people, Avars. The radical Westerners had the goal of liberalizing the Russian people, tearing them away from their native soil. Having begun the liberalization of the morals of Russian people, the Westerners launched the process of moral decomposition of the Russian way of life. The liberalization of the state-forming people, the Russians, entailed another process - the creeping disintegration of the peoples of Russia and the mental collapse of our country. As soon as liberals got the upper hand in Russian public consciousness, the Caucasians for the Russians became “chocks” and “chuchmeks”.

"TOMORROW". And what promoted the appearance of the slogan "Stop feeding the Caucasus!"

Muhammad Awara. It is necessary to decide who exactly “feeds” Russia. It feeds not the Caucasus, but our elites. Since 1991, the elites of Dagestan have only one purposeful policy - a course towards deconstruction of the economic resources remaining from the USSR. The Soviet Union collapsed - everything collapsed, which means that there was room for redistribution. Magomedali Magomedov, who ruled Dagestan from 1994 to 2006 years, least of all thought about what will happen tomorrow. He multiplied the capital and influence of his clan, placed the right people where necessary and cleaned those who interfered. He is credited with the fact that in the 90s the republic avoided major conflicts and was not involved in the Chechen war. I tend to another option: we were able to keep the peace only thanks to the wisdom of our peoples. Magomedali had nothing to do with it. The sick problems of our republic with him remained intact. Production, collective farms, science under Magomedali collapsed and remained lying. Magomedali adhered to the principle: let nothing happen. He pressed any independent initiative from below: Kumyk, Avar, Lak, Dargin. But to replace one "crushed" came several others. That's right: when the government does nothing, the people begin to act, and you cannot stop it with one force.

The so-called titular people of Russia are in a state of white genocide. You are Russian, you know better than me what I am talking about. In the Caucasus, there is no such drunkenness, such a moral decline, as in the Russian regions of Russia. Back in the 90s, resistance among Russians was overwhelming against those who carried out this white genocide policy. The architects of this policy, the celestial beings of the Russian Olympus, were frightened of this, and therefore set about inciting the titular people to non-title ones. The slogan "Enough to feed the Caucasus" was not born in a shabby Khrushchovka, but in the laboratory of a highly paid political strategist.

The average Russian is a TV viewer. On the TV about the Caucasus say only the worst. While the template is alive, everything will be calm in the country. Everyone who comes to us, to Dagestan, at first wonders: did they come to the Caucasus? Where is the dense Middle Ages, wild manners, which they broadcast television and the Internet? Where is this wild hatred of the Dagestanis for the Russians, ostensibly inherent in them since the times of the Caucasian War? Russian guests of Dagestan instead of self-hatred see the respect of Caucasians for the Russian people. This respect is captured in the monument to the Russian teacher, who stands in the best park of Makhachkala.

"TOMORROW". And what is the reason for the claim that Caucasians are supposedly "wild"?

Muhammad Awara. We are just different. The fact that Caucasians are different is natural. For us, the Russians are different too, and the English are different for us, and the French. As for wildness, many Russian customs for the same Chechens are immorality. For example, in Russian youth with might and main walks by the hand with each other, kisses. A Chechen takes a girl by the hand only when he makes her an offer to marry. Kissing the bride before the wedding of the Chechens is a disgrace. Meetings between the bride and groom at the Vainakhs occur only in the presence of the bride's relatives. Caucasians are different because they are passionate. Historical conditions and mountainous terrain, where land is of little habitable, have taught us to be active. The reforms of Gaidar and Chubais plunged the Caucasus into conditions much worse than the medieval ones, so we are forced to live to the limit. Due to the fact that we live at the limit, we have competed with some representatives of the people, which in Russia is called the titular nation.

I have already said: any Russian, when he comes to us, at first suffers from cognitive dissonance caused by the rupture of the pattern. Not only Russians drive to us, but also the French, the Americans. I knew one such Frenchman. Man has long been interested in Russia. He wondered what kind of Republic of Dagestan is this? I flew to Moscow, took a ticket to Makhachkala and rushed to us. Here he had never been before, did not know anyone. Flying away a month ago, he knew that he had good friends in Dagestan who were waiting for him to visit.

This Frenchman told me: “Guys, what kind of mess is going on in your country? A beautiful republic is represented on TV as a fiend of hell. We in France have our own“ Dagestanis ”- Gascons, but nowhere in the French media will you read about the Gascons that they write in the Russian media about Dagestanis. " And indeed so. Scots and Irish - our brothers in Britain - do not enjoy special respect from ethnic English. The British, and some Scots, and the history of Great Britain itself are to blame. You will not read in any British media that only bandits and savages live in Scotland.

"TOMORROW". Sorry, but a typical idea of ​​Dagestan is not built on an empty foundation. In Dagestan, every day, the attacks, kidnapping, contract killings.

Muhammad Awara. Is it not in Europe? In Spain, there is the region of the Basque Country. There, too, and shoot, and take hostages. No country in the world is immune from this. The world map consists mainly of multi-ethnic states. In every multiethnic state there will necessarily be a passionate national minority, which will be distinguished by something. In any country of the world there are interethnic problems and contradictions. For example, in prim Germany, Bavarians have recently demanded sovereignty and are ready to fight for this sovereignty. And the Kurds in Turkey, Iran, Syria? Tamils ​​in Sri Lanka?

Lev Gumilyov has the term "passionary." I divide passionaries into four parts. The first - passionaries who have achieved power. The second is passionaries who want power. The third is the gray mass of the people, which gives these passionaries a lot, and which the drive people use for their own purposes. The fourth are units like the artist Gauguin, who spat on everything and went to Tahiti to draw a native.

The nations of the North Caucasus in present-day Russia are nations — passionaries. Within each Caucasian people, I see all four types of passionaries who I told you about. Our difficult life in present-day Russia does not reassure our drive, but rather warms it up. We ourselves are not thrilled with this. Constantly living on the limit is extremely difficult. Very easy to break.

We are exposed in a negative light due to our problems. But not only we are to blame for these problems.

"TOMORROW". What problems would you point out?

Muhammad Awara. First of all, the problems of divided peoples and inter-ethnic conflicts, which escalated immediately after the collapse of the USSR. I will start with the closest point to me - Dagestan. The largest ethnic groups of Dagestan are Avars and Lezgins. Lezgins are the largest ethnic group in the east of the North Caucasus and the northeast of the South Caucasus. By the roughest estimates, more than 2 million Lezgins live in these regions. A lot of Lezgins live in Azerbaijan. But the cunning guys from Baku from the end of the 40-s have been bringing all their “own” non-Turks under the sequestration. For example, by hook or by crook, they are recorded by Azerbaijanis. Nobody can say for sure how many Lezghins, Avars and Talyshs are among the current Azerbaijanis. But even after the Baku additions, the number of Azerbaijani Lezgins is impressive — more than 300 thousand people. According to Soviet data, 680 thousand Lezgins lived in the AzSSR. Question: where did Baku “lose” the rest of Lezghins? Not to the moon, they flew away ...

There is an opinion that about one and a half million Lezgins actually live in Azerbaijan. A million 200 thousand Lezgins are recorded as Turks - Azerbaijanis and they are forbidden to call themselves Lezgins. The children of these Lezgins will no longer know the Lezgin language. We see the ethnocide of the Lezgin people in a country that is supposedly friendly to Russia. Baku does the same with Azerbaijani Avars. Baku took away not only the original Dagestani lands in the Zakatala zone, but also our brothers. He deprived Lezgins and Avars of their national identity, turned them into mankurts, and repressed those who resisted.

Russia is obliged to pay close attention to the situation of those Azerbaijani citizens who are not ethnic Azerbaijanis. In independent Azerbaijan, they are not so good as it is Baku. If everything was good there, there would not have been the tragedy of the Lezgin villages of Khrakh-Uba and Uryan-Uba, transferred by Russia to Azerbaijan under the agreement of 3 of September of 2010 concluded in Baku between Dmitry Medvedev and Ilham Aliyev.

The problem of our brothers in Azerbaijan can be resolved in two ways. The first is people's diplomacy. Citizens of Azerbaijan and citizens of Russia could, by joint efforts, raise the issue of non-titular peoples of Azerbaijan and thereby contribute to solving this problem. But, in my opinion, with the current ruling regime in Baku, this cannot be done.

There is a second way, but it is highly undesirable. If Azerbaijan continues to bend its assimilation line, it can lead to conflict. Now information for consideration. 50 is a concentrated contingent of Russian troops in Dagestan. If this contingent is pulled to the Russian-Azerbaijani border, will the Russian soldiers shoot Dagestanis in the back or support them? The Russian liberals in the White House and on Old Square are lobbyists for the regime of Ilham Aliyev. Where is the guarantee that the power lobbyists of Azerbaijan will not turn the peacekeeping initiative of Russia into the mainstream of destabilization of the situation?

Avars have a lot of problems in Georgia. The Kvareli and Lagadekh districts of Georgia are the Dagestan, Avar lands. For Tbilisi, the Avars, like any non-Georgians, are an alien element. During the periods of nationalist frenzy, Tbilisi tried to violently rob the Avars. After Saakashvili’s departure, the Avars of Georgia sighed with relief, but their existence is still far from stability. A lot of problems. There are no qualified Avar language teachers in the schools of Kvareli district.

The present Caucasus is generally one large complex of interethnic friction. In Dagestan, there is a lot of friction between Chechens - Akkins and Laks, between Avars and Kumyks, Lezgins and Avars. Ossetian - Ingush problems, Chechen - Ingush problems between Chechnya and Dagestan. I come from Tsumadinsky district of Dagestan. Several of our villages are now in Chechnya. What is not a reason for friction?

Inter-ethnic tensions are born when national elites begin to redistribute economic spheres. In Dagestan, the ground for such conflicts is the land. In January, 2013, when Ramazan Abdulatipov was appointed president of Dagestan, Kumyk organizations began to demand the redistribution of land ownership in the territory of the historic Kumyk Plain. Some Kumyks shouted that the Avar, the Lak, and anyone else would be killed for their native land. I said at one such rally: “The problem is not in a specific people, but in the traitors of the people who came to power. The problems of Avars and Lezgins are completely similar to those of Kumyk. friend. "
"TOMORROW". Are there truly independent national leaders among the representatives of the elite of Dagestan?

Muhammad Awara. There are no such elites. Who among the same Lezgins independent? Is the mayor of Derbent Imam Yaraliyev, perhaps, who calls himself "the father of Lezghins"? In 2010, then-President Medvedev presented Ilkham Aliyev with original Lezgin lands - Yaraliyev was silent. In 2011, Baku arranged for the deportation of the indigenous people of these lands - Yaraliyev was silent again. In October, 2012, aul Khrah - Uba left the last Lezgin - Yaraliyev did something? Moreover, the criminal transfer of the Lezgin lands in 2010 took place with the consent of Lezgin Yaraliev. When the then President of Dagestan, Mukhu Aliyev, refused to give the land, Yaraliyev expressed his displeasure. Think about it: Avar Aliyev defended the Lezghin lands, and Lezghins Yaraliyev was unhappy about this. In May 2013, Yaraliyev, spitting on Lezghins' protests, presented Azerbaijan with one of the Derbent streets, calling her the name of Heydar Aliyev. In June of the same year Yaraliyev ordered to disperse protest rallies against Heydar Aliyev Street in Derbent. Yaraliyev is the regional prince of Dagestan, and Lezgins are only on a Soviet passport.

"TOMORROW". You say that Caucasians are a passionate people. Any drive needs to exit. Is there such a way out of Dagestan passionarity?


Muhammad Awara. There is. It was not for nothing that at the beginning of the conversation I started talking about Alexander II. I believe that he was the wisest ruler of Russia. He made his fierce enemies, made his true friends, entrusted his life to Caucasians. The younger son of Imam Shamil became an officer of the personal guard of Alexander. The king did not execute the most rebellious imam, but surrounded him with honor and respect.

Shamil was captured on August 25 of the year 1859. 3 March 1861, incomplete two years later, Alexander abolished serfdom in Russia. Many scholars believe that this decision was influenced by the conversation between the king and the imam, who soon took place in Gunib. The Imam then told the king: "It is better to be the ruler of free people than the emperor of slaves." The Caucasus in the person of Shamil was directly related to the most important event in the history of Russia. Do not connect Russia Caucasus, everything would be different.

What is the conclusion? Russia, represented by the tsar-reformer, placed trust in former enemies, Caucasians. Seeing this trust, Chechens, Dagestanis, Circassians began to show their heroism in the service of the king. Another example is the 1917 events of the year in Petrograd. When no one could cope with the raging garrisons of Petrograd, General Lavr Kornilov set in motion the Wild Division, and the Bolsheviks were dispersed in horror. Then the Soviets made a cunning knight of the Caucasians: they sent Stalin, Ordzhonikidze and Kirov to the Caucasus, and they inspired the mountaineers that the Soviet power brings freedom, equality and social justice to the peoples of the Caucasus. Highlanders believed it. The Bolsheviks really did not encroach upon the customs and religion of the highlanders. Moreover, in many areas of the Caucasus, primary party cells were created in mosque communities. In the mosques up to the 30-s, zakat was collected for the needs of the Soviet authorities and the national liberation struggle of the oppressed peoples of the East. Islam was positioned as an ideology of the national liberation struggle. In the local party committees, portraits of Kazi-Magomed and Shamil hung next to portraits of Marx and Lenin. The leader of the Bolshevik movement in Dagestan, Makhach Dakhadayev, was married to the granddaughter of Imam Shamil. Caucasians have contributed to the establishment of Soviet power in Russia. During the Great Patriotic War, the descendants of Shamil and Haji Murad saved the world from Nazism in the ranks of the Red Army. Every historian of the Great Patriotic War remembers the cavalry division of Dargin Kara Karayev.

Caucasians are very passionate. Precisely because they are passionate, they are no less patriotic citizens of Russia than Russians. If a Caucasian feels Russia as his Motherland - Mother, then he will willingly give his life for her. But if he sees that the Motherland - Mother turns into a stepmother, then he will just as easily die for the cause of the collapse of this "stepmother." A Caucasian thinks: if Russia has become a stepmother for him, then she is an enemy and other peoples who inhabit it.
The wider the artificially created gulf between Russia and the Caucasus, the more those Caucasians who are disappointed in Russia. A young Dagestan young public figure, a Kumyk by nationality, once declared: "Russians! If you are Chinese, Americans or Israel closer than the North Caucasus, let Caucasians go free, do not hold us. We will, of course, chop ourselves up we'll shoot, but sooner or later we will make peace and create our own powerful state. " Unfortunately, his words are not a rush of personal emotions, but the firm intention of many. If everything continues as it is, then the North Caucasus Emirates will arise on the site of Dagestan, Chechnya, and Ingushetia. The core of the new state will be Islam. Islamization of the Caucasus is taking leaps and bounds. It is also observed in Russian society.
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  1. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 26 2014 16: 50
    +37
    If corruption is eradicated in Dagestan, however, as throughout Russia, and given the opportunity to work, to support families, life will get better there, like everywhere else, where there is peace and prosperity.
    1. Salamander
      Salamander April 26 2014 16: 54
      +8
      While at least one person is alive, it will not work
      Quote: Thought Giant
      eradicate corruption


      It doesn’t happen ... crying , will not be:
      1. Salamander
        Salamander April 26 2014 17: 11
        +8
        There will always be those who want to get a little more than others ... and in a slightly less legal way.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov April 26 2014 17: 31
          +13
          Quote: Salamander
          There will always be those who want to get a little more than others ... and in a slightly less legal way.

          So these and must be crushed, as the NKVD, OBKHSS crushed! And it is necessary to clean all of Russia, and first of all, the vertical of power and law enforcement agencies. No other way.
          "Caucasians are very passionate. Precisely because they are passionate, they are no less patriotic citizens of Russia than Russians."

          Well now we’re studying the passionarity of Caucasians!

          "Vladimir Putin has allocated to non-profit organizations. The largest amount, 9,5 million rubles, will be received by the Institute for Eurasian Studies to study the role of Caucasians in the liberation of besieged Leningrad."
          1. Salamander
            Salamander April 26 2014 17: 36
            +6
            Quote: S_mirnov

            So these and must be crushed, as the NKVD, OBKHSS crushed!


            Yeah, and then you have to clean the NKVD and OBKhSS and those whom they covered ... then those who were covered by those who cleaned the NKVD and OBKhSS, and so on. Man is a creature always wanting a little more than what he has laughing

            The largest amount, 9,5 million rubles, will be received by the Institute of Eurasian Studies to study the role of Caucasians in the liberation of besieged Leningrad. "


            But wasn’t there a single Caucasian among millions of residents and defenders of Leningrad? So why not support the patriotism of Caucasians with this fact? I don’t understand what’s wrong with that - let’s not they study Caucasian collaborationism, but real heroes! Let them remember their fighting past! Who are the heroes in Ukraine - the UPA and other evil spirits, they are trying to forget about Ukrainians in the Soviet army. Do you want this for Russia? Oh well...
            1. asar
              asar April 26 2014 18: 02
              +25
              There were, there were heroes in the Caucasus during the Second World War! Let's not deny, let's not find fault! In the end - and one black sheep spoils the whole flock! It is not necessary to "paint" all the people in one color! You can minus, but that's my opinion!
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              2. sub307
                sub307 April 26 2014 18: 36
                +4
                Do not "throw yourself at the embrasure." Of course everything was: there were different "sheep" for everyone and "golden-fleeced" and "lousy", especially during the Second World War, and in other times too. And the Germans in the ever-memorable times of the Second World War became heroes of the Soviet Union. IT WAS. And, NOW, we are talking about the fact that "Islamization is taking place in the Caucasus by leaps and bounds. It is also observed in Russian society."
              3. free
                free April 26 2014 19: 44
                +12
                There is a rational grain. The Russians’ claims to the Caucasians and vice versa are absolutely justified. But it’s also true that the Russians carry out white genocide !!! corrupted, fucked up (n

                and the pi - dars became similar both in their habits and in clothes) they forgot their culture and national heroes, or, more simply, they lost their footing! And the Caucasus avoided this! Therefore, we get contempt and a sense of superiority over us, plus they are also set against we’re all in a compartment = we’re wet and we don’t see each other. The author is right to take out the battle against the West only together! And the strong Russians in the Caucasus are respected! And the truth is that 100 years ago we were similar in customs and customs to Caucasians (the guest fed they would give a lodging and protection in any house, they would tear everyone for their family and home, these are Russians in the past, and Caucasians in the present, the aforementioned does not apply to those who are outrageous in Moscow, but to those who humanly live in their republics ) but the whole of Europe and the rest of the world was afraid of Russia! Look around on TV for drugs, fornication, etc. what is this? but aren’t they special to us? Pi - oras of all stripes are exposed as heroes, and real heroes are not losers Noteworthy is this? This is a change of orientation, under exchange of values, the plan of Daless in action (or whatever this p.i.nd.do.su called), and they did it in many ways, I think the main idea is clear! Those who are already prepared to minus me, I am Russian, I am Orthodox , I am for Russia and the Russians one hundred percent, and in the article I want to say that we need to return to our values ​​(strength, faith, duty, family, rightly
                1. free
                  free April 26 2014 23: 36
                  +3
                  Quote: free
                  There is a rational grain. The Russians’ claims to the Caucasians and vice versa are absolutely justified. But it’s also true that the Russians carry out white genocide !!! corrupted, fucked up (n



                  and the pi - dars became similar both in their habits and in clothes) they forgot their culture and national heroes, or, more simply, they lost their footing! And the Caucasus avoided this! Therefore, we get contempt and a sense of superiority over us, plus they are also set against we’re all in a compartment = we’re wet and we don’t see each other. The author is right to take out the battle against the West only together! And the strong Russians in the Caucasus are respected! And the truth is that 100 years ago we were similar in customs and customs to Caucasians (the guest fed they would give a lodging and protection in any house, they would tear everyone for their family and home, these are Russians in the past, and Caucasians in the present, the aforementioned does not apply to those who are outrageous in Moscow, but to those who humanly live in their republics ) but the whole of Europe and the rest of the world was afraid of Russia! Look around on TV for drugs, fornication, etc. what is this? but aren’t they special to us? Pi - oras of all stripes are exposed as heroes, and real heroes are not losers Noteworthy is this? This is a change of orientation, under exchange of values, the plan of Daless in action (or whatever this p.i.nd.do.su called), and they did it in many ways, I think the main idea is clear! Those who are already prepared to minus me, I am Russian, I am Orthodox , I am for Russia and the Russians one hundred percent, and in the article I want to say that we need to return to our values ​​(strength, faith, duty, family, rightly


                  I want you to understand me correctly, I just want us all to remember that we are Russians not by passport, but in our hearts, and this is worth a lot! As Suvorov said, "we are Russians what a delight," I subscribe to every word of our great commander ! Let's remember what it means to be Russian, and we will try to follow this high rank!BE RUSSIAN BEST REWARD!
                2. Roman 57 rus
                  Roman 57 rus April 27 2014 00: 57
                  0
                  I agree with you, maybe it is worth transferring this "confrontation" with the Caucasus to a certain competitive (for example, sports to begin with) level?
              4. maroder555
                maroder555 April 26 2014 23: 58
                +5
                dear ARTICLE HUGE MINUS ----
                WEARS A POPAGANDIST-DISTORTING SENSE
                , here the article talks about passionaries, but tell me, WHAT SUCH "PASSIONARY PEOPLES" HELPED THE Fascists DURING THE GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR ??? WHY AFTER THE REVOLUTION UP TO THE END OF THE GREAT DOMESTIC, EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE TRANSITION OF TIME, THESE "PASSIONARIANS" RACED THE MOUNTAINS ??? why was it silent about the "actions" of these "passionaries" during the Soviet period?
                and further,
                THESE PASSIONARIES - THOSE WHO CONQUERED THE CAUCASUS HOW HUNDREDS YEARS BACK, AND THOSE WHO NOW THERE PRESS THERE THIS HADBERRY - A WASHABISM SEASON! AND OTHERWISE WILL NEVER !!!!
                THOSE WHO SAY, "ENOUGH TO FEED THE CAUCASUS" - SHOOT, THESE UBL-YU-D-KI WILL ENCOURAGE THE MEMORY OF THE FOLLOWED IN BATTLES.
                NOW THOSE WHO WANTS TO ACCUSE ME OF NAZISM: DON'T WRITE A BOOST, AND BEFORE MAKING CONCLUSIONS ABOUT EXTREMELY WONDERFUL PEOPLE,LEARN IN EVENTS - WHO UNDERSTAND THAT UNDERSTAND. OR FORGOT BOTH A CHECHANIAN ??? HERE TIME FOR ANYTHING ....

                WHO DOESN’T WANT TO LIVE IN FRIENDSHIP, AGREEMENT AND RESPECT FOR THE SLAVES, WELL BE OFFENDED ONLY FOR YOURSELF ... WE WILL TAKE OURSELF FOR ANYTHING, FOR .....banned and deleted by moderator Apollo am am am
                1. caucasian army
                  caucasian army April 27 2014 04: 10
                  +7
                  Answer for maroder555
                  The Caucasus is large and different, so you don't have to row everyone with the same comb! Yes, there were traitors in the Caucasus among some peoples, but again, not the majority, but the minority were traitors. Even among the Chechens and Ingush, only a few percent sided with the Germans. But then the Cossacks, for example, also went to the Germans in whole units and villages. During the Second World War, there were half a million Russians and 300 thousand Ukrainians who fought for Hitler. And they did not represent the entire Russian or Ukrainian people. It was also in the Caucasus. And among many peoples of the Caucasus there were almost no traitors at all (there were only a few). Have you ever heard of collaborators among Dagestanis, Kabardians, Circassians, Abkhazians and Ossetians? It is unlikely that you would ever hear about such. But among the Russians and Ukrainians, after all, there were Vlasov, Krasnov, Bandera - and that's a fact. Such "Slavs" as these henchmen of the Hitlerites are not brothers to you or us, but enemies. During both Chechen wars, among the militants there were also people of not only Chechen, but also Russian and Ukrainian nationalities, and quite a few. Now there are hundreds of Russian Wahhabis. Dudayev's regime was also not approved by all residents of Chechnya - less than half. Quite a few Chechens themselves and entire subdivisions from neighboring republics fought against the bandit regime of Ichkeria. Maybe you've heard about the cruel cleansing operations in Chechnya carried out by the Ossetian OMON? Chechen militants called them death squads, because few of them or their accomplices or relatives could escape from this OMON.
                  We all have one homeland and we do not need to divide it among nations - we are all one nation. And I think your opinion is insulting and inciting ethnic hatred, and it’s strange that the editors of the site do not pay attention to such statements in this and similar topics
                  1. maroder555
                    maroder555 April 27 2014 11: 04
                    +2
                    answer for caucasian army: why when they mention the betrayal of the Caucasian peoples in the Great Patriotic War - the cries immediately begin - Naziism! chauvinism! fascism!
                    explain ???? Facts about how the "proud" representatives of the Caucasus acted "heroically" are in the public domain, and you can also talk to the veterans, they will tell you a lot ...
                    Why doesn’t anyone mention fascism and genocide in those cases when the Russians are destroyed ??? hundreds of examples: with the collapse of the USSR, what was happening in the republics? how did you deal with the Russians? and nothing, silence, everything is fine ... am Yes, just did not guess am
                    There is no need to attribute the UPA here ... it never existed, these are modern inventions of "Independent Ukrov", but in the Caucasus they cleaned it well after the war, for another 4 years, a fact. THE ENTIRE PRAISED MENTALITY REDUCES THAT WHEN THE NENT OF RESPONSIBILITY BEGINS BEFORE, AND THERE WHEN CAPTURE FROM THE HORNS, IMMEDIATELY, THERE IS NEVER THAN EVERYTHING!
                    ON THE COMPLAINT OF MODERATORS,
                    YES AT ALL))))))))))))))))))))))
                    TODAY IN THE MORNING IN DAGESTAN, THE GUYS WERE REALLY WORKED, YOU HUGE RESPECT soldier

                    PARTICIPANTS OF ALL CAUCASIAN WARS DEDICATED ...

                    FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND: THE ENEMY ALWAYS REMAINS THE ENEMY ...
                    DON'T CHOOSE TIMES, LIVE THEM Are dying WIN !!!
                    1. Asadali
                      Asadali April 27 2014 12: 21
                      0
                      Answer for maroder555 RU
                      "TODAY MORNING IN DAGESTAN, THE GUYS HAVE WORKED EXCELLENTLY, HUGE RESPECT TO YOU" (c)
                      Marader, those who worked are our guys, and in 99, ours were in front of the military, then the local police, and only then the military, and the soldiers of the wounded, our grandmothers dragged and helped them (this is a fact that I personally saw and who friends who participated from other districts told us that we were students then) when our helicopter pilots began to wet their militants and give the militants a corridor, and in Afghanistan, too, many of ours participated, and in liquidating the consequences of the Chernobyl NPP and Mayak PA accidents.
                      In Murmansk there is a city port Gadzhievo, what do you think in honor of whom it is named?
                      And look who raised the banner of Victory over the Reichstag:


                      We had and still have many heroes of the Soviet Union and Russia, but I wrote this, not in order to download any rights or complain, but in order that you would not generalize when you write about us. Although, to be honest, I don’t know a single Dagestan who lived in Dagestan or was sent to war and was a traitor.
                      So peace to the world!
                      Regarding yesterday’s special operation in Derbent, here’s a link for you:
                      http://kavkazpress.ru/archives/46754
                      1. maroder555
                        maroder555 April 28 2014 00: 57
                        -1
                        Answer for Asadali: I do not row all under one comb, there is no such purpose.
                        About the 99th, partially agree, a mess ...
                        about helicopter pilots in general a separate topic .....
                        about the rekhstag and the banner: there, too, everything is not just that, according to a person who served in the airborne forces of Chisinau in 1979-1981, who saw M.V. personally and talking to him: "" "the banner was raised from 4 sides, the building was shot through, and only when instead of the shaft there was an iron rod or an iron pipe - not the point, then the banner could no longer be knocked down with bullets from the building. And the shooting was staged later . "" "
                        about the article:
                        THE VALUE OF THE WORLD'S PASSIONARITY IS NOT CORRECTLY EXPRESSED IN THE ARTICLE, I CORRECTED THE AUTHOR!
                        Regarding the Caucasian wars, you won’t throw it out of history (THESE EVENTS SHOULD REMEMBER EVERYTHING ONLY THEN THEY DO NOT REPEAT), our ancestors fought, now we live in the world, in one country, there are nuances, but we are working on them)))) ) Although, I want to work on this together ....

                        Now our life is set in such a way that little time is spent on educating young people, and this young people behave, let's say more mildly, not well. And this is an obvious fact, also an obvious fact that boors will receive a good response and "education", only then they will feel what is good and what is bad. (Regardless of nationality)

                        About traitors: Comrade Stalin was a very competent person in all respects, and whoever said anything, deportations were a planned, balanced and only right decision. You know who was deported.
                        And do not have illusions about the Brest Fortress))
                        http://yandex.ru/video/search
                      2. Asadali
                        Asadali April 28 2014 01: 52
                        +1
                        Answer for maroder555
                        "The article DOES NOT EXPRESS THE MEANING OF THE WORD PASSIONARY" (с)
                        I did not go into it at all. To be honest, I did not quite like the article. These so-called experts sometimes carry such crap and wonder. As one here indicated below, they began for health, and finished for the repose of the soul.
                        I only want our peoples to always be united and together.
                        I'm talking about the 99, Afghan, WWII, in order to explain that our peoples were not on the side of the political and other life of Russia, they were always and in everything together (for example, the Bolsheviks were also white, but I don’t remember betrayal, except for the betrayal of Imam Shamil, even his close associates. Well, the Almighty probably had his own plans on this account). And all the good and bad that we have in Dagestan is the same as throughout Russia, taking into account its features. I always compare Makhachkala with Moscow. Makhachkala is mini Moscow, everything from Moscow is copied, whether it’s shops (the names are the same, but the sizes in Makhachkala are much smaller) whether it’s corruption (with the same size).

                        "Now our life is set in such a way that little time is devoted to educating young people" (c) I absolutely agree, but this is also the same everywhere in Russia. It is necessary to work with young people, and it is best to start with the kindergarten. I consider myself a patriot of my Motherland of Russia, my parents from childhood, then in kindergarten, and then at school, until about 7-8 grades it was instilled, after that no one was doing anything - the collapse of the Country and that's it. I heard that now the school should give only knowledge, and they don't even have the right to educate - I think this is the deepest mistake of those who would not be behind such an idea - they are not patriots.

                        About the eviction, they didn’t evict one Dagestan.
                      3. Asadali
                        Asadali April 28 2014 02: 32
                        0
                        Here is what awaits us if we are disconnected and squabble with each other:
                        http://kavkazpress.ru/archives/46817
                        Here you have the descendants of those of whom you are writing here Moroder. Well, aren't you a bitch ?!
                2. Chuykov
                  Chuykov April 27 2014 18: 14
                  0
                  How was this UPA not ?! And where did you get it, in Western Ukraine, too, at least 4 years cleaned .... and maybe more ...
                  1. maroder555
                    maroder555 April 28 2014 00: 16
                    0
                    UPA WASN’T, this is a later invention, in order to somehow designate and justify, to give significance to those gangs (AND MYSTERY THE BRAIN OF YOUTH) that were operating after the war. They cleaned not only the west of Ukraine, the mountains of the Caucasus and the forests of the Baltic countries ... and not four years ... more ... Great-grandfather talked a little, but he told me to never know ...
                3. caucasian army
                  caucasian army April 28 2014 01: 45
                  +1
                  Answer for maroder555
                  You apparently read inattentively my answer to you? Read it again and do not ascribe to me please what I did not write.
                  And what kind of "betrayal of the Caucasian peoples in the Great Patriotic War" are you talking about? I repeat once again that there were very few traitors among the Caucasian peoples - much less than among the Russians and Ukrainians. There are only two peoples in the Caucasus (I mentioned them in the first commentary) among which collaborators were a few percent of the total population. So there is no need to slander, throw out groundless accusations and incite discord. By the way, Stalin and Beria are also Caucasians. Have you ever thought about it?
          2. Mih
            Mih April 27 2014 04: 42
            0
            Quote: asar
            There were, there were heroes in the Caucasus during the Second World War!

            There were, there were heroes in the Caucasus during the Second World War!
            You look at how many Chechens were awarded medals by the Heroes of the USSR. This is impressive. I will not talk about carpet bombing ... In vain all this. We need peace.
        2. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov April 26 2014 18: 06
          +8
          Quote: Salamander
          Yeah, and then you have to clean the NKVD and OBKhSS and those whom they covered ... then those who were covered by those who cleaned the NKVD and OBKhSS, and so on.

          And corruption must be fought constantly, it’s like brushing your teeth every morning, otherwise nothing, because ...
          Quote: Salamander
          Man is a creature always wanting a little more than what he has

          And this is good, the main thing is not at someone else’s expense, but with your own work!
          1. Salamander
            Salamander April 26 2014 20: 46
            +1
            Quote: S_mirnov
            And this is good, the main thing is not at someone else’s expense, but with your own work!


            Unfortunately, for many people it is too difficult to live by their labor ... And the more opportunities, the greater the desire to "live beyond their means", paradoxically.
            1. nycsson
              nycsson April 26 2014 21: 36
              0
              Quote: Salamander
              Unfortunately, for many people it is too difficult to live by their labor ... And the more opportunities, the greater the desire to "live beyond their means", paradoxically.

              And this is determined primarily by morality. And our leaders lack morality.
              1. Salamander
                Salamander April 27 2014 12: 49
                0
                The point is that moral people usually either do not make their way into politics, or they lose this very morality on the way to the "Olympus" ... A politician must be tough, ruthless towards his rivals and opponents, hypocritical towards his "partners" (yes , there is no need to minus - not always a politician can tell the truth) - and there are few such people among moral people, which is understandable.

                "All power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely" - this statement works with exceptions, the proportion of which is steadily approaching zero ...
          2. nycsson
            nycsson April 26 2014 21: 33
            +1
            Quote: S_mirnov
            And corruption must be fought constantly, it’s like brushing your teeth every morning, otherwise nothing, because ...

            The raven, the crow will not peck the eye ....... laughing
        3. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov April 26 2014 18: 09
          +13
          Quote: Salamander
          But wasn’t there a single Caucasian among millions of residents and defenders of Leningrad?

          And what about the Tatars, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Ingush and Russians not worthy of studying their role? Then they would study the Soviet people and their heroism in the Second World War.
          And then, "Eurasian" studies have littered you understand!
          1. Salamander
            Salamander April 26 2014 21: 09
            0
            Enough has been said about the role of the Slavic peoples in Soviet times, it remains only to support it. It is much more important to show the non-Slavic peoples that they fought for Russia and the USSR. Otherwise, the enemy will take care of raising anti-Soviet "heroes." And then - we will get the third Chechen, at least. The Caucasus is initially neutral to the events of the Second World War, and what heroes will be instilled in it, he will follow those ...
            1. A. RU
              A. RU April 26 2014 21: 38
              +3
              Specifically in Dagestan there are many heroes and participants of the Great Patriotic War. Magomed Gadzhiev submariner Hero of the Soviet Union, Ametkhan-Sultan pilot, twice Hero of the Soviet Union. The Caucasus was not and cannot be neutral to the Great Patriotic War or other conflicts in which Russia is being drawn! In the Caucasus, May 9 is celebrated, people go out for a walk and celebrate War Veterans, and in the evening there is fireworks. So "neutral" is you rushed to the conclusion. I completely agree that the younger generation should know the hero of their country and be proud of them. It is necessary to conduct Patriotic education in a clear and established form, and not only in the Caucasus but throughout Russia.
            2. caucasian army
              caucasian army April 27 2014 04: 14
              0
              Sorry, but you are deeply wrong, look here next to my other comment - I wrote everything in detail there, like what in the Caucasus
              1. Salamander
                Salamander April 27 2014 13: 02
                0
                I read that comment of yours and completely agree with it! I don’t understand where you think I’m wrong? I'm just saying that an ordinary Caucasian (and not only people) does not have such an opinion about the Second World War: "our people fought against the Nazis." All the same, Russian children from childhood are tuned to the "Soviet side". And the Caucasus is far away, not so many Caucasians fought in the Second World War, so it is easier for them to instill an anti-Russian point of view. As they have already instilled in the Balts, they are inoculating in the Ukrainians ...

                Therefore, it is extremely important to show the participation of Caucasians in the Second World War on the side of the USSR! Remember the real heroes of the Second World War from the Caucasus! Otherwise, "good uncles" will come and teach that both the USSR and Russia oppressed the Caucasus, that those who fought on the side of the Nazis were "freedom fighters", that their "feat" must be repeated - and long live the third Chechen .. ...
                1. caucasian army
                  caucasian army April 28 2014 02: 02
                  +2
                  This is where you are wrong when you write this: / an ordinary Caucasian (and not only) does not have such an opinion about the Second World War: "ours fought against the Nazis." All the same, Russian children from childhood are tuned to the "Soviet side". And the Caucasus is far away, not so many Caucasians fought in the Second World War, so it is easier for them to instill an anti-Russian point of view. As they have already instilled in the Balts, they are instilling in the Ukrainians ... / - that's exactly what some anti-Russian media apparently blinded you in your mind, excuse me, negative and prejudiced attitude towards the Caucasus. Read my comments above again and more carefully, please. Indeed, in most regions of the Russian Caucasus, the patriotic education of youth in honoring the memory of the heroes of the Second World War is doing much better than in purely Russian regions of Russia. In the North Caucasus, the majority of the population thinks that "our people fought against the fascists." The situation in Transcaucasia is somewhat different. I won't even talk about Georgia and Azerbaijan - over the past years, a different system of values ​​has already been formed there, unfortunately. Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Armenia remember their contribution to the overall victory of 1945, but the wars of the last decades are remembered there much more sharply, for obvious reasons. And about the fact that allegedly "not so many Caucasians fought in the Second World War" - everyone was called to the front in the same way, like the Russians, and some Caucasian peoples lost more than half of the male population on the fronts of the Second World War - this is, according to you, "not so much "?
                  Heroes of the USSR of World War II, by nationality: Russian - 7998 people; there were 2021 Ukrainians, 299 Belarusians, 161 Tatars, 107 Jews, 96 Kazakhs, 90 Georgians, 89 Armenians, 67, Mordvin, 63, 45 Chuvash, 43 Azerbaijanis, 38 Bashkirs, Ossetians - 33, Mari - 18, Turkmen - 16, Lithuanians - 15, Tajiks - 15, Latvians - 12, Kyrgyz - 12, Komi - 10, Udmurts - 10, Estonians -9, Karelians - 8, Buryats and Mongols 8, Kalmyks - 8, Kabardins - 6 (8), Adygians - 6, Abkhazians - 4, Yakuts - 2, Moldavians - 2, Tuvan - 1, Crimean Tatars-6, Chechens-5, French citizens - 4, Germans - 9.
                  So look - Georgians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Ossetians, Kabardians, Adyghe, Abkhazians, Chechens - natives of the Caucasian republics Heroes of the USSR. And google how much population of each of these peoples was in 1941 and what percentage of Heroes of the USSR to this population is obtained.
                  You will see that the Caucasian peoples (at least the ones among which the Heroes of the USSR) are the most patriotic and heroic part of the population of the Soviet Union.
          2. prishelec
            prishelec April 27 2014 00: 46
            +1
            S_mirnov / Ingushs are also Caucasians! .. Chechens and Ingushs are practically one and the same people!
      2. koshh
        koshh April 26 2014 18: 46
        0
        Quote: S_mirnov
        So these and must be crushed, as the NKVD, OBKHSS crushed!

        And how they pressed, you probably remember, especially OBKHSS. They worked under the slogan: "We get paid not because we work, but because we DO NOT WORK."
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov April 26 2014 23: 07
          0
          Quote: koshh
          And how they pressed, you probably remember, especially OBKHSS. They worked under the slogan: "We get paid not because we work, but because we DO NOT WORK."

          But anyway, PRESS! And the ghouls were afraid, and now the Abramovichs are not afraid of different things and are setting the tone!
      3. tanit
        tanit April 27 2014 06: 55
        0
        And who are you going to put pressure on, about OBKHSSnuty? I had soldiers from Dagestan under my command. Different tribes. Different mood. As specialists, well, I will not lie - almost none. The same attitude towards the service - and this is exactly what matters. A bad telegraph operator turns out to be a good shooter. And, well, you personally will laugh - a patriot (no, not Dagestan, and not his village, and not even his tribe) of Russia. When a well-fed polar fox comes, I would leave the "dag" behind without any fear, but not you. hi
    2. Roman 57 rus
      Roman 57 rus April 27 2014 00: 50
      0
      Considering that in order to defeat corruption, one of the methods of combating it should be the practice of allocating funds not for PROGRAMS, but for specific people with the obligatory "publication" of them and this fact.
  2. Kurdalagon
    Kurdalagon April 26 2014 19: 09
    +4
    Come on, this is a myth. There was a period when there was almost no corruption. 10% will never be taken, 10% will be taken anyway, the remaining 80% according to the situation. If there will be guaranteed severe punishment for corruption, then 90% will definitely not be taken.
  3. Asadali
    Asadali April 26 2014 22: 03
    +8
    I, as a Dagestan, agree with the author about Magomedali Magomedov. This man did absolutely nothing useful for Dagestan, but quite the opposite. He is considered the progenitor of corruption in Dagestan. That behavior of our visitors in Moscow and other regions of Russia is mainly the consequences of its activities.
    I also agree about hospitality, although it is far different from what was then (now the time is different).
    About corruption, what and how you look and make conclusions yourself who is to blame, whether I am to blame as a simple Dagestan or a simple Russian: http://kavkazpress.ru/archives/35832,
    http://kavkazpress.ru/archives/39127 ,
    http://kavkazpress.ru/archives/36521 и др.

    And finally, about the national question. Where I work about 30% Russians, everyone is happy and no problems, but what they see in the media is not pleasant for themselves.

    And here is how it used to be:

    I would like it to continue to be so that we would always be a single people.
    1. Officer
      Officer April 27 2014 18: 41
      +1
      I am Russian. I agree with you (you). We are of different nationalities, but must be a single people. Let us rally today (and forever) in the face of danger from the enemies of Russia.
  • APASUS
    APASUS April 26 2014 18: 00
    +15
    Quote: Thought Giant
    If corruption is eradicated in Dagestan, however, as throughout Russia

    Dagestan is the same piece of Russia as Magadan, Tatarstan or Kalmykia. It's just that in this part the problems are more visible and aggravated, I think because of the warlike past of this part.
    One has only to build a system of laws before which everyone is equal (Russians, Chechens, Dagestanis, officials and commoners) and everything will fall into place.
    There is no alternative to the rule of law !!!
    After all, just look around the country that bureaucrats and bribe takers only rob Dagestan ??
    1. asar
      asar April 26 2014 23: 11
      0
      Excuse me, do you have a leader ?! Decent, able to represent your rich region!
  • platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 April 26 2014 18: 57
    +3
    Hurray - patriots called for Dagestan to be separated from Russia by a concrete wall with barbed wire
    Dagestanis are our people and our brothers, they are citizens of Russia like us, we need to talk and discuss all the problems that we have in Dagestan and how we can help. The problems in the regions are the same for everyone and they need to be solved together. We Russians, wherever we live, should help each other.
  • Boris55
    Boris55 April 26 2014 19: 07
    -1
    Quote: Thought Giant
    eradicate corruption

    To eradicate corruption, it is necessary to destroy the system of building society on the principle of "states".
  • Smiles to you
    Smiles to you April 26 2014 19: 38
    +1
    I fully support it. your thought ...
  • A. RU
    A. RU April 26 2014 19: 45
    +5
    There are many problems in Dagestan. And some problems are very specific. But this does not mean that one must distance oneself from them. This is a subject of the Russian Federation. There are many people who want and are ready to work and serve for the good of Russia. Dagestan is a strategically important region, due to its geographical location, it is a kind of southern gate of Russia. We must not forget that in the 99th year, when international terrorists tried to drag Dagestan into the war with Russia, Dagestanis shoulder to shoulder with the arrived Russian soldiers destroyed this threat, with the full support of the local population. When they say to separate, move away or stop supporting Dagestan, which is part of Russia, you always need to ask one question. Who benefits from this?
    PS Even 15 years ago, in the United States, it was said that the Caspian Sea is a zone of their interests.
  • aspirin02
    aspirin02 April 26 2014 21: 14
    -5
    SBU Kills the protesters!
    1. APASUS
      APASUS April 26 2014 22: 34
      +1
      Quote: aspirin02
      SBU Kills the protesters!

      What is this cheap bullshit?
      Couldn't cook it up better?
      And the shots with the killed SBU officer have circled the whole world, you must be careful when creating a provocation
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  • 1812 1945
    1812 1945 April 26 2014 23: 25
    +3
    Quote: Thought Giant
    to give an opportunity to work, to support families, life will be improved there, as everywhere, where there is peace and prosperity.

    These are keywords, Giant of Thought. Regarding corruption ... Singapore was one of the most corrupt countries in the world - half a century ago. Now - the world leader in the cleanliness of the state machine from corruption corrosion. What did they do for this? We have adopted the relevant laws of exceptional rigidity (the death penalty for convicted officials) and strictly follow them. We must also come to this. Why should we shut up the throats of the "apologists of the deductive method" - "separate the Caucasus and you will be happy!" Yes, the road to a unified state was not easy. But having become a single state - the Russians and the peoples of the North Caucasus - have always been loyal to this single state, when traitors did not penetrate into the higher power. For loyalty, all the supreme rulers of the countries of the East chose their personal guards from them. (The famous "Georgian guards" - bluff! They were always Vainakhs, Alans (Ossetians), Circassians, Avars, Lezgins ...) It was the Caucasian Division (this is exactly the case with capital letter!) was the only one who remained loyal to the Emperor Nicholas II Alexandrovich. Do you know that there would have been no Brusilov offensive (breakthrough) if not for the unprecedented feat of units formed exclusively from Caucasians ?! (Brusilov himself, by the way, betrayed the emperor.) Great, heroically they fought in the Great Patriotic War. The units formed from the North Caucasians are ready-made special forces, which all the strongest armies in the world would dream of having! So we got to employment. It is not necessary of people living in extreme conditions of the mountains, representing peoples whose history is an endless war (this is similar to the Russians, understanding in many ways of each other and mutual respect), it is not necessary to make of them that which is alien to their mentality, does not fit with their passionarity, alien to traditions. Formation of units for military operations in the mountains, an expeditionary force for use in the conditions of southern climatic zones ... There is something to think about. Only the enemy of the Russian people can strive to quarrel the Caucasus and the rest of Russia. (How many Olympic medals have won! Like it ?!) Well, thanks to Artur Priymak and Muhammad Avari especially!
    1. andj61
      andj61 April 27 2014 09: 47
      +1
      Quote: 1812 1945
      The units formed from the North Caucasians are ready-made special forces, which all the strongest armies in the world would dream of having! So we got to employment. It is not necessary from people living in extreme conditions of the mountains, representing peoples whose history is an endless war (this has similarities with Russians, understanding of each other in many respects and mutual respect), it is not necessary to make from them that is alien to their mentality, is not linked with their drive, foreign to tradition. Formation of units for military operations in the mountains, expeditionary force for use in southern climatic zones ...

      I fully support. It is imperative to use people in such a way that their abilities and features can be used as efficiently as possible.
      In addition, you must, in the end, give people a job! Now problems with Ukraine, supplies are falling. And the main (in terms of tonnage) supplies are crushed stone. Is it really impossible to organize the production of simple rubble in the North Caucasus? Is transportation in the Moscow Region more expensive than from Ukraine? But this issue is being resolved - to exempt from transportation taxes, introduce subsidies for the first time. Will people be busy, will serve or work - there will be less problems.
  • Pavel Sinko
    Pavel Sinko April 27 2014 02: 07
    +3
    I just think that the national elite, with the coming to power in the regions, begins to bend the policy of the state, this and concessions to their own and all that and a tendency to the emergence of national strife. It's just a double-edged sword, it is impossible that in the regions power completely passes into one hands, otherwise it is a mine of delayed actions. The common people in the national regions become hostage to the politics of the elites. Therefore, one should not be surprised at the dismissive and disrespectful behavior of the people of these regions towards the rest of the citizens of the country. Only the separation of powers and the responsibility of those in power can rectify the situation. I think this is a syndrome called "Napoleon" small but ambitions big.I want everything to be fine with us in Russia. So that everyone respects and understands each other. I live in the hinterland of work with us no more than in problem regions I saw everything and how people in dugouts live and work many for a plate of stew to this day since horror, people just died out in difficult years. But no one thought to step on a crooked path husband They really carried their cross. And there is no excuse for nasty things, nothing that will justify the lack of conscience. Neither lack of work, nor anything else. No one argues and will not underestimate the contribution of any people of Russia to a common cause. The point is in another respect for people I lose and then they make round eyes and wonder why they think so about them and no need to look for excuses, they say, we, by our appearance and behavior, give the national regions a reason to treat the majority like that.
  • abdrah
    abdrah April 27 2014 03: 10
    0
    Quote: Thought Giant
    If corruption is eradicated in Dagestan, however, as throughout Russia, and given the opportunity to work, to support families, life will get better there, like everywhere else, where there is peace and prosperity.


    -As the classic said - "It's a pity to live in this wonderful time, neither I nor you ..."
  • Korablev
    Korablev April 27 2014 03: 16
    0
    Quote: Giant thought
    If ... root out corruption ...

    Wah !!! Eradicate corruption ... and how simple it is ... yes you, my friend, are an optimist (recall a joke about r ... oh?)
    If corruption is to be eradicated, then it is necessary to "eradicate" the entire PZhiV, entirely and completely, radically.
  • tanit
    tanit April 27 2014 06: 43
    +3
    And remember, it was the so-called "Dags" who were the first to take the blow from "Ichkeria" - they were the first to die. Without any corruption - with hunting weapons, police and militias - against trained militants. It was? It was. You're right - life will get better. And then - again we will remember at the word "Dagestan" - the village of Kubachi, and not terrorist attacks. drinks
  • Knndlr
    Knndlr April 27 2014 13: 39
    +2
    From the heavenly book the list is given
    You, the prophet, are not for the obstinate;
    Quietly proclaim the Quran
    Without forcing the wicked!

    Why does a man boast?
    For the fact that the naked was born,
    That he breathes a short century,
    What is weak to die, how weak was born?

    For the fact that God will kill
    And he will be resurrected by will?
    What days from heaven keeps him
    And in joys and in a bitter share?


    This is an imitation of the Koran, A.S. Pushkin.
  • Salamander
    Salamander April 26 2014 16: 52
    +7
    A ruler who knows how to keep the peoples of the Caucasus in check - will be able to keep the whole world in check! One must be able to rule peacefully. And if you fight with all the people, then it is better to use nuclear weapons right away, because the vanquished will only hide ...
    1. Salamander
      Salamander April 26 2014 17: 09
      +14
      The author correctly says: we must let the Caucasians feel that they are Russians, and they will faithfully serve Russia!
      1. asar
        asar April 26 2014 18: 25
        +2
        This option of "cohabitation" with Russia was offered to them more than once! Whoever wanted to became a full citizen of Russia! Who does not want to, still "quiet" in "pits", "abroad"! Well, nothing, we'll bring you nits out! Like Zheglov and Sharapov - "Black Cat"! And for the boys from "Pskov" we will wind all your guts around your neck!
        1. serge siberian
          serge siberian April 26 2014 19: 47
          +2
          Quote: asar
          we will withdraw! Like Zheglov and Sharapov - "Black Cat"!


          buddy! the black cat was taken out all over the union. even in Omsk they were doing it. they did it easier: front-line soldiers with machine guns and vintors were brought to patrol the streets at com.hour and after 10 days the cat literally wasn’t tired.
          1. asar
            asar April 26 2014 20: 13
            +2
            Comrade Zhukov said that in the city of Odessa - well, just a candid mess! And Comrade Stalin simply asked: Is Odessa a not a Soviet city ?! And that’s all! The order has been put in place !!!
        2. free
          free April 26 2014 23: 49
          +3
          Quote: asar
          This option of "cohabitation" with Russia was offered to them more than once! Whoever wanted to became a full citizen of Russia! Who does not want to, still "quiet" in "pits", "abroad"! Well, nothing, we'll bring you nits out! Like Zheglov and Sharapov - "Black Cat"! And for the boys from "Pskov" we will wind all your guts around your neck!


          creatures are not those who hold another faith, but those who push us together with their foreheads! I understand your feelings like no other, but the thing is that scum is faceless, that is, has no nationality, complexion, etc. There are creatures among any of the peoplepunish not people of a different nationality, but scum that creates lawlessness!
      2. asar
        asar April 26 2014 23: 04
        0
        While there will be dictatorship over them (however, maybe I'm mistaken!)!
    2. asar
      asar April 26 2014 18: 17
      +5
      Well, nuclear weapons are too much! One "political activist" from Ukraine also wanted to "bomb" Russia and the South-East with "nuclear weapons"! There is no doubt that provocations of "crawlers" should be expected, especially in the North Caucasus, Central Asia (the West will not be stingy with such "small things"!)! Russia should strengthen its position in Armenia, "negotiate" with Turkey (the Kurdish problem, the flow of tourists from Russia), "add strength" in Tajikistan, "flex its muscles" there, "cover" the Ulyanovsk transit! And ... LET'S LOOK!
      1. Salamander
        Salamander April 26 2014 21: 32
        +1
        Quote: asar
        Well, nuclear weapons are too much


        It is clear that it is too much! It's just that many believe that the Caucasus and others should be pressed and pressed by armed force - and this option has never worked in any country. The United States in Vietnam, Iraq, etc., the USSR and the United States in Afghanistan ... the list is very long ... And there are only 2 options - to be friends, or to destroy completely (which is also what some "too patriots" dream of)
        1. asar
          asar April 26 2014 22: 10
          +1
          Destroying completely is still not an option (the population has nothing to do with it!)
          1. Salamander
            Salamander April 27 2014 13: 49
            0
            It is clear, but then it remains only to be friends - the most difficult, but the best way. To be friends not as "lads", on equal terms, but as a parent with a child - to support and educate, instilling pro-Russian sentiments in the population.
  • GRune
    GRune April 26 2014 16: 56
    +6
    There is. It was not for nothing that at the beginning of the conversation I spoke about Alexander the Second. I think that he was the wisest ruler of Russia. He made his fierce enemies, made his loyal friends, entrusted his life to the Caucasians. The youngest son of Imam Shamil became an officer in Alexander's personal guard. The king did not execute the most rebellious imam, but surrounded him with honor and respect.
    But Putin is doing wrong ??
    1. Salamander
      Salamander April 26 2014 17: 03
      +5
      That's right - remember Kadyrov! He is still working in the interests of the Russian government.
      1. Neighbor
        Neighbor April 26 2014 18: 51
        0
        And where did he have blisters from a knife with which he cut captive boys?
        1. alone
          alone April 26 2014 19: 11
          +3
          Quote: Neighbor
          And where did he have blisters from a knife with which he cut captive boys?

          How dare you? Now the pro-government will tear you to pieces))) He is a hero of Russia. wassat
          I probably got a star for killing the first Russian at the age of 16. I don't remember anything else. Oh yes, I forgot. was still a courier at Basayev's headquarters, and probably received the Order of Courage for this)) lol
          1. asar
            asar April 26 2014 20: 26
            +3
            We "hold" this type for "supposedly calmness" in the North Caucasus! (if it were my will - I would put it on the ramrod, I answer)! For our boys!
            1. Salamander
              Salamander April 27 2014 13: 53
              0
              Quote: asar
              We "hold" this type for "supposedly calmness" in the North Caucasus! (if it were my will - I would put it on the ramrod, I answer)! For our boys!


              You wouldn’t be the only ones to plant hi . But Kadyrov is needed more alive, so far he is doing a good job. By the way, again, a parallel with Shamil - he also killed a lot of ours, but was pardoned.
        2. asar
          asar April 26 2014 22: 13
          0
          he rubbed them with sandpaper!
      2. asar
        asar April 26 2014 22: 12
        0
        wait and see friends!
  • mig31
    mig31 April 26 2014 16: 57
    +4
    Everywhere and everywhere there must be a leader, if he is not, there is no understanding, there is no harm ....
    1. asar
      asar April 26 2014 22: 25
      +1
      Leader! Yesterday in the mountains ..., today is the leader! If only there was no war, yes, Mr. President ?! And Russia is ready to "lick" everything in the Caucasus - if only there was no war ?! Sorry, members of the forum for such statements, it just repeats itself, it seems! We've lost so many guys for the "River", that's enough, perhaps!
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik April 26 2014 17: 01
    +10
    In 1975, the CIA decided to start the collapse of the USSR with the help of nationalism and youth work. And it turned out to be an effective way! They say to Ingush that you are the chosen god, but to the Chechen, no, you are the best! But we all mixed up and together we are one people! No need to follow the lead of the West or we WILL ALL KILL !!!
    1. serge siberian
      serge siberian April 26 2014 19: 55
      -1
      you are right, this is so. Nagorno-Karabakh is an example number 1.
      about Islam with its seven mile steps; radicals use this soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo old only !!!
      "CHAOSS !!"
    2. asar
      asar April 26 2014 22: 30
      +2
      The Serbs say this: Warned or smrt! And in Russian - Unification or death! Or something else in a Serbian tale ?!
  • A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 26 2014 17: 07
    +6
    The Caucasus cannot be compared with the Baltic states, the difference is like Sky from the Earth, the Caucasus has always been drawn to Russia and has always been with Russia. The Baltic States saw Russia as an eternal enemy and was treated like an enemy, an occupier.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer April 27 2014 00: 31
      +6
      That's right. Just now, the perception of the Caucasus in the central regions of Russia is now based on the behavior of those people who came there from the Caucasus.
      I finished school even when we learned with surprise about our nationalities. We were all - the Soviet people.
      So, my two best school friends are from the Caucasus - Lezghins and Ossetians. Now they live where their fathers and grandfathers were born and raised.
      When I come to them in Vladikavkaz and Makhachkala and I see Caucasians there, and then I come back to St. Petersburg and see them here - this is a huge difference.
      Not only that, when my best friends come to visit me, they ask - where did you get so many blacks in St. Petersburg? In general, I was shocked by these words - hear from them ... I say, guys, you were not mistaken in words, because these are your countrymen.
      No, they say, they were not mistaken. If the Caucasians behaved in the Caucasus in the same way as in St. Petersburg, they would simply be slaughtered. So, they say, do not be offended, but these are not Caucasians, these are your blacks.
      Why am I all this? While guests will not have respect for local traditions - do not wait for good. And this applies to everyone - to the Russians in the Caucasus, and to the numerous nationalities of the Caucasus, when they arrive in other regions.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 17: 09
    +2
    The Caucasus needs to be kept in check (by any means) Alas, it won’t work out differently .. Otherwise, blood will flow again like a river .. If you have already done such things from Ukraine that we are now observing .. My opinion!
  • alone
    alone April 26 2014 17: 09
    +8
    The article is a clear provocation, which is designed to spoil relations between Russia and Azerbaijan. These villages were leased in Soviet times. The lease term has expired. Therefore, it was suggested that Russian citizens either accept the citizenship of Azerbaijan, or for receiving compensation (very decent, from 60000 to 90000AZN at the rate of 1dol = 0,78AZN) to leave the republic. Residents of the village, having received compensation, left the village. The whole process was carried out under the supervision of the Russian Embassy under the personal control of Ambassador Dorokhin.
    For those who published the article, a question. Do you have anything else to publish? Do you need Russian-Azerbaijani srach as well?
    It is believed that about one and a half million Lezgins actually live in Azerbaijan


    This man is sick on the head. In Dagestan itself there are not so many Lezghins, maybe they were also assimilated? Who is Lezgin, he says that I am Lezgin. And he has written in his passport Lezghins, which we have in Azerbaijan 200 people, maybe a little more.
    1. Salamander
      Salamander April 26 2014 17: 15
      +3
      The article is not about Azerbaijan ... and the Dagestan cannot simultaneously support Dagestan and Azerbaijan in their words ... There will be an article from Azerbaijanis - there will be nasty things about Dagestan laughing
      1. alone
        alone April 26 2014 17: 28
        +8
        Quote: Salamander
        The article is not about Azerbaijan ... and the Dagestan cannot simultaneously support Dagestan and Azerbaijan in their words ... There will be an article from Azerbaijanis - there will be nasty things about Dagestan

        Not a single normal Azerbaijani will ever write or say anything bad about the Dagestan or about Dagestan. Simple people have always lived, live and will live in peace and harmony. And this probably wanted to earn 30 pieces of silver. Here and tears and sweeps.
        I know why this article was needed. But I say in advance, this will not work with us.
        1. Salamander
          Salamander April 26 2014 17: 46
          +2
          Not one normal Azerbaijani


          Agree, it’s difficult to speak for a whole nation. There will certainly be those who want to blame the neighbors for at least something ...
          1. alone
            alone April 26 2014 18: 09
            +2
            Quote: Salamander
            Agree, it’s difficult to speak for a whole nation. There will certainly be those who want to blame the neighbors for at least something ...

            I am responsible for 90% of the population. And in a family there are no rogue genes. Like this Avar
            1. Salamander
              Salamander April 26 2014 21: 15
              0
              Unfortunately, even 1 percent is sometimes enough for a full-fledged revolution ...
              1. alone
                alone April 26 2014 21: 21
                +2
                Quote: Salamander
                Unfortunately, even 1 percent is sometimes enough for a full-fledged revolution ...

                We have Nikolai, 1 percent is likely to be locked up before they think about it. Our people didn’t bring anything good. And those who stutter will shut their mouths. The last attempt was in 2005, they closed everyone, even those who occupied high positions, did not regret. We need to raise the country, so that people live normally, and revolution is bungled.
                1. Salamander
                  Salamander April 27 2014 13: 58
                  0
                  Yes, I'm not talking about Azerbaijan, calm down fellow In Ukraine, several thousand maydauns were enough for a complete mess.

                  But anything can happen, you cannot even predict in advance even how one person will behave in a particular situation, let alone a whole nation ... And in ethnic conflicts, both nations instantly begin to violently hate neighbors, and the corresponding reasons are being inflated.

                  Everyone remembers the Georgian-Ossetian confrontations, who attacked whom. But practically any Georgians (at that time - 100%!) Will say that the Ossetians were to blame for everything - there was nothing to separate! Now the Georgians would criticize Saakashvili and his policies, and during the conflict they would have beaten for such speeches.
        2. prishelec
          prishelec April 27 2014 01: 21
          +1
          / lonely / quote: "But I say in advance, this will not work for us." Yes, it doesn't work with the Armenians either!
    2. serge siberian
      serge siberian April 26 2014 20: 07
      +1
      Quote: lonely
      200 people in Azerbaijan, maybe a little more.

      Sorry, I’m talking about renting; but at the end of the term why didn’t they return the land back to Russia? Why are you still fighting for Karabakh? Yes, because the money was paid!
      and the other peoples of the Caucasus assimilated the Armenians. The Ottoman Empire left its contribution to your people (the people of Azerbaijan) you are Turks, for the Russian Empire. Why sin?
      1. alone
        alone April 26 2014 20: 27
        +3
        Quote: serzh sibiryak
        Sorry, I’m talking about renting; but at the end of the term why didn’t they return the land back to Russia? Why are you still fighting for Karabakh? Yes, because the money was paid!
        and the other peoples of the Caucasus assimilated the Armenians. The Ottoman Empire left its contribution to your people (the people of Azerbaijan) you are Turks, for the Russian Empire. Why sin?

        First, they rented Azerbaijani territory, not Russian. If they rented Russian territory, Azerbaijani citizens would have lived there, not Russia.
        Karabakh is the internationally recognized territory of Azerbaijan occupied by Armenia. I have a question for you, why then 4 years had to fight with the Nazis?
        Do you have a fact of assimilation of Armenians? Do you even know what assimilation is? Armenians had their surnames taken away? They were prevented from learning and speaking their own language? They had autonomy in Karabakh. Such benefits are not supposed to be assimilated.
        Yes, we are Turks, just like Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Tatars, Bashkirs, Kumyks, Nogais, Gagauz. And what does the Ottoman empire have to do with it, or does the Ottoman empire give you no peace? It's been like a hundred years already. And the last 200 years, how since we were part of the Russian Empire. Write with facts, not speculation and your guesses.
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 26 2014 22: 40
        +2
        Quote: serzh sibiryak
        I'm talking about renting; and at the end of the term why didn’t they return the land back to Russia?

        for starters, at least we’ll sort it out before letting us write. This is Azerbaijan’s land leased, the deadline has expired so far.
  • Little Muck
    Little Muck April 26 2014 17: 14
    +4
    I completely agree with the article.
    He himself was born and raised in Dagestan. It would be nice if we read it at the top. It would be helpful.
    A train Leningrad-Derbent went to the USSR. Tourists were darkness. And what has the coast turned into now? And it is customary not to notice.
    And how many Russians left there is hard to convey. And today they do not see a place for themselves there.
    Thanks to the author.
  • samuil60
    samuil60 April 26 2014 17: 17
    +4
    An old Caucasian song - spoiled giaurs (Russians) are to blame for everything, and the inhabitants of the Caucasus are pink and fluffy. And these pink and fluffy "apassionarii" do what they want in the vastness of Russia, and our authorities cover them in every possible way. For money. For BIG money. These wonderful people with a lot of money buy up everything that the Jews did not have time to buy. Lovely Caucasians commit the overwhelming majority of grave crimes on the territory of Russia (ask any criminal operative) that do not even get into the reports of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, since everything is decided by money on the spot (if caught). Any Russian actions against the domination of foreigners are suppressed. And we (Russians) have to believe in this Caucasian nonsense? Even at the time when thousands of our priests were shot and exiled, there were Marxist circles in their mosques, you see. And at the same time they are offended and oppressed! No wonder Islam is called new Judaism - everything is very similar. Only dumber and more impudent.
    1. prishelec
      prishelec April 27 2014 02: 47
      -1
      / samuil60 / The browser is buggy on this, I did not insert the quotes, but wrote it cleanly, the quote: "Caucasians commit the vast majority of grave crimes in the vastness of Russia" but what are you saying, yes, isn't it, complete nonsense, when a Caucasian, for example, kills someone, we we know what's going on, rallies, etc. their crimes do not remain unnoticed, especially grave ones, I am not Caucasian or Russian, our republic is located in the central latitudes of Russia, and we perfectly see who commits more crimes, including grave ones, yes, and every day we see on TV in different programs your crimes, take at least some kind of magazine, even a newspaper, everywhere are Russian murderers, rapists, etc. You can type in Google, for example, the crimes committed in Russia in three months, and so, in three months in Russia, as many as 800 violent acts were committed against children and adolescents, and note among these pedophiles there is not a single Caucasian Bashkir or Tatar, all these pedophiles are Russian , about other murder crimes etc. and I won't say it, so it's you who are singing the songs here, in Russia there are other peoples besides Russians and Caucasians, and we all see and know that you were wrong about the crime, so I wrote everything as it is, how to grit first in the mirror look and then say! .. And I also think if someone, a Caucasian, for example, comes to central Russia, then he is not a guest at anyone's place, but at home, this is a common country, for example, if a Caucasian will come to my private house in the country or to my apartment, then he will of course be my guest, but if he came to our city, to our region, or to our republic, then he is not visiting anyone, but yourself in the country like this, you have to be fair in everything! No offense.
    2. bumbarash
      bumbarash April 12 2015 22: 32
      0
      and who shot your priests? Russians themselves were shot. What does Islam have to do with it?
  • Strashila
    Strashila April 26 2014 17: 18
    +5
    "In the Caucasus, there is no such drunkenness, such a decline in morals, as in the Russian regions of Russia." ... and who actually creates this decline in morality ... Russians ... no, people from the Caucasian region escaped from the constraining local national factor.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 26 2014 18: 03
      +5
      Quote: Strashila
      "There is no such drunkenness in the Caucasus

      But "in the north" who "keeps" the alcohol trade? Who gets the Slavs drunk? They are ... Caucasian.
    2. prishelec
      prishelec April 27 2014 02: 54
      -1
      / Strashila / Yes not alreadylaughing l ................................... l
  • v245721
    v245721 April 26 2014 17: 19
    +3
    Caucasians are to blame for creating such a negative about themselves. It is possible to radically change this situation. to create a council of elders of the entire "Russian Caucasus" and a Russian "Putin's front". And on the basis of developing a dialogue.
    1. Tor hummer
      Tor hummer April 26 2014 20: 59
      -2
      Quote: v245721
      Caucasians are to blame for creating such a negative about themselves. It is possible to radically change this situation. to create a council of elders of the entire "Russian Caucasus" and a Russian "Putin's front". And on the basis of developing a dialogue.

      Yes, here already these "dialogues" can not solve anything ... how many years they have been scratching their tongues at all kinds of congresses, but no sense.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 17: 21
    +4
    Quote: lonely
    The article is a clear provocation, which is designed to spoil relations between Russia and Azerbaijan.

    Do not exaggerate lonely .. The article is normal! Russia is simply tired of the state of "How not to offend anyone ..?" We have been silent for 20 years.
    1. alone
      alone April 26 2014 17: 32
      +7
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Do not exaggerate lonely .. The article is normal! Russia is simply tired of the state of "How not to offend anyone ..?" We have been silent for 20 years


      The article is a provocation of pure water. And I know what it is for. Vitaly, have you ever been in the region. Have you been familiar with the customs of Lezgins and Azerbaijanis? I’ll tell you this. I know the people of Dagestan quite well. I don’t believe life.
      The article is custom-made and has some hints about what is happening now in the world as a whole. I repeat, we have already passed this. It will not work with us.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 26 2014 22: 41
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        So that the Avarians would attack the pseudo-problems of the Lezghins in Azerbaijan)) I do not believe in life.

        They will tear apart their brother to pieces there as soon as they drop out of Russia. The Chechens are for Khasavyurt, and the Arastanis, Lezgystans, etc. have gone and Azerbaijan will have to harness for Derbent.
    2. Stavros
      Stavros April 26 2014 19: 36
      +2
      They didn’t offend, so the so-called neighbors sat on their heads.
      1. alone
        alone April 26 2014 19: 41
        -1
        I don’t sit and sit on your head. I live in my own country and earn my own piece of bread with my own hands. I don’t like closing the border, deporting all migrants.

        As for resentment, your insult has not yet grown!
        1. Stavros
          Stavros April 26 2014 20: 25
          +1
          You are a lonely angry man. Why wish your fellow countrymen who earn their piece of bread in Russia, deportation.
          1. alone
            alone April 26 2014 22: 33
            +3
            anyone can earn a piece of bread at home. You don’t need to stomp from a piece of bread 3-4 thousand kilometers. You just have to work.
            1. Stavros
              Stavros April 26 2014 22: 51
              +1
              And you did not ask yourself a question, maybe there is nowhere for you to work there, therefore people leave.
              1. alone
                alone April 26 2014 23: 27
                +2
                To me, a working person in my own country who has participated in the construction of at least 10-12 in large industrial facilities for a short time, to ask myself the question that the country has nowhere to work? Don’t tell me, there is work, there is a lot of it, you just need to work. You know, work. But do not whine.
                1. Stavros
                  Stavros April 26 2014 23: 50
                  +2
                  I understand you perfectly. There is work, and they all leave. Strange as that. Tomorrow I’ll ask a friend from Azerbaijan, I wonder what will answer.
                  1. alone
                    alone April 27 2014 00: 12
                    +2
                    And what will he tell you? "All pissed away" -you think such only in you in Russia?
                    1. andj61
                      andj61 April 27 2014 10: 01
                      +1
                      Quote: lonely
                      "All pissed away" -you think such only in you in Russia?


                      Sure! exactly. However, I noticed that Azerbaijanis are extremely sharply divided into two parts: highly cultured, educated, and quite held in Baku (well, maybe in other cities, I have never met; by the way, there are a lot of such people in Moscow) and living like ours -80 years ago, residents of an Azerbaijani village. So, the latter are mainly faced by people in Russia, especially in the markets, on the basis of which conclusions are drawn about all the people. And this yields very one-sided conclusions.
  • Dragon-y
    Dragon-y April 26 2014 17: 22
    +7
    Judging by the news releases, "passionarity" very often consists in firing wedding corteges from the windows of cars ... Why are they much quieter at their "home"?
    1. serge siberian
      serge siberian April 26 2014 20: 13
      +2
      Quote: Dragon-y
      Why do they behave much quieter at their "home"?


      Yes, because the elders there-at home can "flog" for this.
  • Anaconda
    Anaconda April 26 2014 17: 23
    +5
    Unfortunately, they coming to us have a very negative idea about us. Men are all drunkards, women are all accessible, and we don’t respect our parents at all. How do they get this idea of ​​us?
    They are also brainwashed. Themselves behave how? They "turn up their noses", after all, they are much better than us (they are really sure of this). In their understanding, we are complete pr ... Coming to us, they do not seek to show their good upbringing, why?
  • Smiles to you
    Smiles to you April 26 2014 17: 25
    +12
    Dagestan political scientist spoke "tomorrow" Muhammad Avari


    From where. "Tomorrow", Dug this-AMPLIFIERS!??
    This is some kind of "Arabian horse", In Dagestan there are no such names-Muhammad. There is Magomed.
    And why does HE, on behalf of the Caucasus and Dagestan in particular, say.
    Dagestan was and wants to be part of Russia. And no upstarts and throats can
    embroil our peoples.
    There are issues with extremism and terrorism. They are solved and quite successfully. Intelligence and
    Specialists - Thank you ...
    Hama and insolent unfortunately. they are everywhere and in Dagestan. I am glad that their number is decreasing. And for those who do not understand the good or the good. There are 101 km ... hi
  • kelevra
    kelevra April 26 2014 17: 34
    +8
    First of all, it is necessary that grandfathers and parents, their grandchildren and children talk in their minds respect for another culture, religion, decency! Then there will be no such thing as you walk along the street and see how a crowd of Caucasians dances in the center of Lezgin to their whining music , it’s disrespectful, I’ll come to Dagestan and get a hopak there in the center, they’ll hang me! But I won’t do it, not because I'm afraid, but because I respect other people and ethics. Therefore, before being offended by the cold reception of the next fifty guys with Caucasus in Moscow and in other areas, their parents need to conduct sufficient education with them so that they do not greet and consider themselves the only normal ones and that they all owe something!
  • Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever April 26 2014 17: 35
    +2
    Peace to the world, but not everyone wants it. Some for distribution and want to solve their questions. Everyone learned how to stir up and catch. Although it is not necessary to learn this, it is already programmed in each of us, but attempts to resist this is already the birth of a "child of man". God determined man to be free and this is his greatest wisdom. I made a mistake here - that it was more difficult to catch a fish - there is someone to learn from
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 17: 35
    +6
    "Russians! If the Chinese, Americans or Israel are closer to you now than the North Caucasus, release the Caucasians to freedom, do not hold us. Of course, at first we will chop - cut - shoot ourselves, but sooner or later we will make up and create our own powerful state ".
    We would be glad to let go here .. only nothing good will come of it (we let you go) we and you (especially) then wash ourselves with bloody tears .. (no offense)
    1. Smiles to you
      Smiles to you April 26 2014 18: 09
      +2
      And what a right. you have speak on behalf ALL residents of Sev. Caucasus?
      Strange, do you have such authority?
      I also live in North. Caucasus, however, I did not authorize you,
      speak on my behalf, mine: wife. children, parents, (no offense)
      And more precisely in the wording ...
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 21: 28
        -2
        Quote: Smiles to You
        And what a right. you have speak on behalf ALL residents of Sev. Caucasus?
        Strange, do you have such authority?
        I also live in North. Caucasus, however, I did not authorize you,
        speak on my behalf, mine: wife. children, parents, (no offense)
        And more precisely in the wording ...

        I have a right..! There is no need to raise the Caucasus question here ..! About children ..this is a provocation (I started to remember about children ..? Come on, put the photos here I saw them .. on all foreign sites ..) But our photos (Russian ..) something no one remembers .. What started again? We are now being pecked by Ukraine ..you have come from the South ... Will not work..! All your tricks and methods have long been known and documented .. Do not anger the Russian bear ..! A bunch of compromising materials .. (something happened today))) wassat Well, it happens ..
        1. Smiles to you
          Smiles to you April 26 2014 21: 46
          +1
          I beg you not to poke.
          You will poke yours: Mom and Dad. Polite. I don’t want to upset you ...

          I have a right.

          You have the right to express your opinion (correctly and respectfully). If you
          accordingly brought up. I have. the right to refute it (tactfully) ...
          ! About children .. this is a provocation

          I speak only about my children. Read carefully.

          No need to raise the Caucasus issue here

          Bred: Rabbits, chickens, etc ... I hope so. you are not one of them ... hi
          Got a license number? I am waiting for a call...
      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 21: 28
        0
        Quote: Smiles to You
        And what a right. you have speak on behalf ALL residents of Sev. Caucasus?
        Strange, do you have such authority?
        I also live in North. Caucasus, however, I did not authorize you,
        speak on my behalf, mine: wife. children, parents, (no offense)
        And more precisely in the wording ...

        I have a right..! There is no need to raise the Caucasus question here ..! About children ..this is a provocation (I started to remember about children ..? Come on, put the photos here I saw them .. on all foreign sites ..) But our photos (Russian ..) something no one remembers .. What started again? We are now being pecked by Ukraine ..you have come from the South ... Will not work..! All your tricks and methods have long been known and documented .. Do not anger the Russian bear ..! A bunch of compromising materials .. (something happened today))) wassat Well, it happens ..
        1. Arsenal
          Arsenal 18 May 2014 13: 09
          -1
          Yes, you are sick to the head ...
  • Earnest
    Earnest April 26 2014 17: 37
    +8
    Quote: lonely
    The article is a clear provocation, which is designed to spoil relations between Russia and Azerbaijan.
    For those who published the article, the question is ... Do you also need Russian-Azerbaijani srach?


    The answer is yes. We need a srach. With Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, the Caucasian republics, China and the whole world at once. I really need it. This can be clearly seen in recent months on topwar.ru. Either some journalist hangs up a custom interview, in which a sniffed retired Kazakh regiment Aibolat talks about the erroneous imperial policy of the Russian Federation, or the great Dagestan political scientist Muhammad Avari uses phrases like "The so-called titular people of Russia." ... As soon as an internal, interethnic or interstate problem flashed on the fly - into the author's toilet, and soak (in this article - as many as four: relations with Azerbaijan, the Caucasus as a region, separately taken Dagestan and the degradation of the Russian people).
    And parsing this paragraph:
    There is a second method, but it is extremely undesirable. If Azerbaijan continues to bend its assimilation line, this could lead to conflict. Now information for consideration. 50, the thousandth contingent of Russian troops, is concentrated in Dagestan. If this contingent is pulled up to the Russian-Azerbaijani border, will Russian soldiers shoot Dagestanis in the back or support them?
    ? He immediately draws on articles about inciting ethnic hatred, about inciting war, and about terrorism. Where did the cattle-politolukh gather to send the Dagestanis that the Russian troops could shoot them in the back? This option is undesirable to him, but, Mlyn, let's say! We read carefully, friends. The war continues.
    1. alone
      alone April 26 2014 17: 50
      +3
      Namely, it is these articles and would-be "political scientists" that sow enmity between states and peoples. I do not know what purpose is meant by those who let such an article in Topvar, but do not make trust and friendship with such articles. On the contrary, they repel each other.

      I think everything that happens in the last months has only one goal. But I won’t write about it. There are too many Uryalkins and gorlopans on the site. These thoughts are uninteresting to them.)) hi
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 17: 59
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        I think everything that happens in the last months has only one goal. But I won’t write about it. There are too many Uryalkins and gorlopans on the site. These thoughts are uninteresting to them.))

        Lonely, what do you want to write about "the imperial spirit, etc.) already the whole inter is choking (anti-Russian and Kerry expresses everything on TV) Do you agree with Kerry and Obama ..?" bully And in pursuit, if it were not for Russia, in the Caucasus and Central Asia, such a massacre would begin "Mama do not cry" I am writing something sharply today, but the truth (I answer for the words) These are the things in the tank troops at the moment))) hi
        1. alone
          alone April 26 2014 18: 18
          +3
          Vitaly, what truth are you writing? If it weren’t for the policy of the EBN and its minions, I would not have the problems that we have today. Enough to make peacekeepers. All these massacres in the Caucasus and Central Asia began when ? In the late 80s and early 90s during the Soviet Union. Where were you when the whole mess started? Or do you think tens of thousands of killed citizens in my country are not tragedy, but statistics? And what about tank troops at the moment, I know. For each tank there is an anti-tank. Cornet, Spike, Umtas, Competition, Barrier,
          Hornet, Skif. So the degree of affairs in the tank forces is still incomprehensible. You at least know how we are doing about the army and the armed forces in general. We are not Ukraine. We did not squander our aircraft. And they strengthened and increased))

          Lonely is what you want to write about the "imperial spirit, etc.)


          No, not about the imperial spirit. Remember Saltykov-Shchedrin and his golden words, which are still relevant. "If everyone started talking about patriotism, it means that something has been massively stolen somewhere." I think I'm just sure of this that the current situation is is needed in order to hide a major fraud from the public, so not everything in this world is so crystal and smooth.
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 18: 45
            0
            Quote: lonely
            If everyone started talking about patriotism, it means that something has been massively stolen somewhere. "I think, I'm just sure of this that the current situation is needed in order to hide a major fraud from the public. So not everything in this world is so crystal and smooth.

            The allusion to Putin is that he is one of the 10 richest people in the world (this is true by the way .. a huge territory and the majority of people are for him .. especially now) Azerbaijan does not touch (even arm) and we want to be friends (and we will not give offense to Armenia .. ) But patriotism in his soul should be (I always respect this) even Bandera (not all)! But in the tank troops it’s still normal (and we’ll fly to Mars.))) hi
            1. alone
              alone April 26 2014 19: 17
              +4
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Azerbaijan does not touch anyone (even arm)

              Do not arm, but buy with a prepayment. This is not the same thing.
            2. serge siberian
              serge siberian April 26 2014 20: 28
              +1
              Mikhan. for the majority of people; don’t get it wrong. he doesn’t go into words in his pocket! but he doesn’t really follow, the fish rots from the head.
              "meeting of the Cabinet of Ministers. President is present.
              -President: we will fight corruption.
              silence, everyone looked at each other: well, it’s clear, the Ministry of Internal Affairs will take all, the FSB will take the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and who are the remaining?
          2. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 18: 45
            -1
            Quote: lonely
            If everyone started talking about patriotism, it means that something has been massively stolen somewhere. "I think, I'm just sure of this that the current situation is needed in order to hide a major fraud from the public. So not everything in this world is so crystal and smooth.

            The allusion to Putin is that he is one of the 10 richest people in the world (this is true by the way .. a huge territory and the majority of people are for him .. especially now) Azerbaijan does not touch (even arm) and we want to be friends (and we will not give offense to Armenia .. ) But patriotism in his soul should be (I always respect this) even Bandera (not all)! But in the tank troops it’s still normal (and we’ll fly to Mars.))) hi
            1. alone
              alone April 26 2014 19: 08
              +3
              Well, fly to Mars. At the same time, take away the cheers-patriots and gorlopans from here)) Friendship and Armenia we will not give offense does not fit together. Or -or. Here the question should be clear. I don’t argue about patriotism. But you are not a patriot. You are a patriot .ura-patriots do not belong to patriots. A patriot should love his country, but this does not mean that he should do it blindly and say that kefir is black.

              P.S. Vitaliy, and how many stars does a rover have. Three or five? wassat You still have the engine from the rover hanging on the stand, and YOU have already put on the spacesuit))) laughing
              1. Vitaly Anisimov
                Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 19: 18
                0
                Quote: lonely
                Well, fly to Mars. At the same time, take away the cheers and patriots from here)

                You will be bored without us (you will annoy each other "everything is gone .."))))
                Quote: lonely
                A patriot must love his country, but this does not mean that he should do it blindly and say that kefir is black.

                I like ! And kefir can turn into black (if you look at it for a long time and talk about what kind of white it is) it just turns black mold .. And why is everything in the world a patriot and we just started (in Russia) to speak loudly that we ... And immediately howling around the world and on the borders of Russia ..? Lonely you live in Azerbaijan calmly (if there weren’t Armenia yet) And we have other tasks in Russia ..! hi
                1. Vitaly Anisimov
                  Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 19: 29
                  0
                  Quote: MIKHAN
                  Do not arm, but buy with a prepayment. This is not the same thing.

                  And what are you going to do with these latest weapons ..? (shown in parades ..)) and what ..? We’re rearming in Russia and the whole world is screaming ..))) The Army and the Navy carry out specific tasks (and not ride parades ..) Feel the difference Lonely (only no offense) The Army and Navy should be cost-effective ... bully
                  1. alone
                    alone April 26 2014 19: 51
                    +3
                    Quote: MIKHAN
                    And what are you going to do with these latest weapons ..? (shown in parades ..)) and what ..? We’re rearming in Russia and the whole world is screaming ..))) The Army and the Navy carry out specific tasks (and not ride parades ..) Feel the difference Lonely (only no offense) The Army and Navy should be cost-effective ...

                    Weapons are not bought in order to be shown at parades. The army of Azerbaijan fulfills the tasks assigned to it by the Supreme High Command. Also like you. Unlike you, we do not have plans that are in your plans. We are not for world domination We are claiming. The army and navy is not a collective farm to be cost-effective. The army and navy is a structure of the country's defense and looking for absurdities in this.

                    rearmament of the army and navy is a serious question. Such questions cannot be solved by the Serdyukovs and those who appointed him and then dismissed him. All this is a screen, a bluff. what
                2. Vitaly Anisimov
                  Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 19: 29
                  0
                  Quote: MIKHAN
                  Do not arm, but buy with a prepayment. This is not the same thing.

                  And what are you going to do with these latest weapons ..? (shown in parades ..)) and what ..? We’re rearming in Russia and the whole world is screaming ..))) The Army and the Navy carry out specific tasks (and not ride parades ..) Feel the difference Lonely (only no offense) The Army and Navy should be cost-effective ... bully
                3. alone
                  alone April 26 2014 19: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: MIKHAN
                  You will be bored without us (you will annoy each other "everything is gone .."))))

                  The fact that "everything is gone" with you does not concern me. And without you it will be interesting. Those professionals may return with whom it was possible to discuss very interesting details in military matters.
                  Quote: MIKHAN
                  I like ! And kefir can turn into black color (if you look at it for a long time and talk about what kind of white it is) it will simply cover with black mold ..

                  a real patriot will not look at kefir for a long time)) he will just drink it on his health. Why give kefir covered with mold. You will thus discredit domestic dairy products laughing
              2. serge siberian
                serge siberian April 26 2014 20: 36
                0
                Quote: lonely
                ) Friendship and Armenia will not give offense does not fit. Or -or. Here the question should be clear.

                they have always been friends with the Caucasians (Georgians, Avrtsi, Azerbaijanis.Tajiks and no matter who you are by nationality, even a Jew.) Friendship is friendship. Friendship is not for money. It is not profit or "walrus"
          3. Wheel
            Wheel April 26 2014 21: 47
            0
            Quote: lonely
            If it were not for the policy of the EBN and its minions, today my country would not have the problems that we have.

            Let's be honest to the end.
            EBN is secondary, although scum is rare ...
            Gorbachev is primary with his team, in which the notorious G. Aliyev also played a significant role.
            However, do you have any questions for that?
            Or is there anyway?
            1. alone
              alone April 26 2014 22: 43
              +2
              Quote: Wheel
              Gorbachev is primary with his team, in which the notorious G. Aliyev played an important role

              Gorbachev removed Aliyev in 1987 (do not think that I’m defending him). After 2 months, ethnic hatred began. And EBN remembered only because it was about Russia. And what I’ve done Gorbaty, I remember today. Age allows .My opinion about him unfortunately does not solve anything (If I had the will, I would have torn it apart by shooting from ZSU-23-4. So that nothing could be found).
              He is now, as it were, an order bearer)) Andrei the First-Called is on his chest !! for outstanding services. And here they try to convince me of the correctness of the Russian government. You can’t talk about the reconstruction of the USSR and award the destroyer the highest order of the state. This is hypocrisy. This is a scam for a simple philistine, noodles on the ears.
              1. andj61
                andj61 April 27 2014 10: 26
                0
                Quote: lonely
                It is impossible to talk about the reconstruction of the USSR and to award the destroyer with the highest order of the state.

                Here it is right!
                And about G. Aliyev ... Back in the 70s, he began to create not only the cultural intelligentsia - it was in Azerbaijan - but the specialists - the elite of the military and engineers. Only thanks to him, his actions in the 70s, and during the period of independence, Azerbaijan did not crumble and took place as a state.
                As for the purchase of Armenia in bulk, I can not agree. And what else should Armenia do in the conditions of the blockade, without its own resources, with rich, systematically and constantly strengthening Azerbaijan, actively and successfully building its army, and even very and unjustly offended (how much territory of Azerbaijan (not Nagorno-Karabakh!) Is occupied army, let’s say, of the republic A r c a x?)
                Moreover, Azerbaijan has always emphasized that it is ready to return its territory in any way. And here is an example of the Crimea. And Azerbaijan could also try to regain its lands. So Armenia tried to strengthen its position. And Russia needs any support in the international arena. Another question, at what cost. It seems to me that it would be FAVORABLE for Azerbaijan to support Russia
        2. Smiles to you
          Smiles to you April 26 2014 20: 03
          0
          (I answer for the words)

          Unfortunately, sitting at a PC, it is impossible to answer for your words ...
          And in real life, yes !!!
          Therefore, the reality is different from the Internet ... A little ...
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          2. Nikoha.2010
            Nikoha.2010 April 26 2014 20: 15
            +1
            Quote: Smiles to You
            Unfortunately, sitting at a PC, it is impossible to answer for your words ...

            Grandfather Makar hello! I thought a sinful thing about a single PC. I respect everyone, but when under the windows they cut a lysgin to the fullest and like an e-girl of a court, I regret, and maybe for the best, that I don’t have a PC! soldier
            1. Smiles to you
              Smiles to you April 26 2014 20: 26
              0
              PC- Personal Computer.

              but when under the windows they cut a lysgin to the full and like a girl’s court, I regret, or maybe for the best, that I don’t have a PC!

              What is under my windows. it will sound, though: lezginka, even Kalinka, I also will not like it. I agree.
              And if, someone is rude, then right away: Hand-Face ... hi
            2. alone
              alone April 26 2014 20: 34
              +2
              Quote: Nikoha.2010
              Grandfather Makar hello! I thought a sinful thing about a single PC. I respect everyone, but when under the windows they cut a lysgin to the fullest and like an e-girl of a court, I regret, and maybe for the best, that I don’t have a PC!

              You know, Sergei, the sufferers are throat-hungry. The society itself is to blame for hitting music (no matter what) under the windows of others, depriving people of rest. The society itself is to blame if someone is rude to a girl or woman, because the boor does not see the proper rebuff.
              and the most interesting thing is that 99% of boors can’t behave like that in their homeland, because they always get a cumpole for it, moreover, not physically, but morally.
              That's when they feel what I'm writing, you don’t need a PC, they know how to behave in a strange place.
              1. free
                free April 26 2014 23: 59
                0
                Quote: lonely
                Quote: Nikoha.2010
                Grandfather Makar hello! I thought a sinful thing about a single PC. I respect everyone, but when under the windows they cut a lysgin to the fullest and like an e-girl of a court, I regret, and maybe for the best, that I don’t have a PC!

                You know, Sergei, the sufferers are throat-hungry. The society itself is to blame for hitting music (no matter what) under the windows of others, depriving people of rest. The society itself is to blame if someone is rude to a girl or woman, because the boor does not see the proper rebuff.
                and the most interesting thing is that 99% of boors can’t behave like that in their homeland, because they always get a cumpole for it, moreover, not physically, but morally.
                That's when they feel what I'm writing, you don’t need a PC, they know how to behave in a strange place.


                absolutely right!
          3. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 20: 26
            -2
            Quote: Smiles at you
            Unlike you, we do not have plans that are in your plans. We do not claim world domination. The Army and Navy are not a collective farm to be cost-effective. The Army and Navy are the country's defense structure and look for benefits in this absurd.

            You are right in your own way .. You have your own strategy, we have our own ..))) Army of the Army is different bully In Russia, everything is different .. We never lived calmly and never lived ..))) We think big .. (genes like these ..) We like to ride tanks and launch all kinds of rockets bully And especially "occupy" ..)))
            1. Smiles to you
              Smiles to you April 26 2014 20: 32
              0
              I don’t understand your appeal to me ?!
              This is not my post,
              Unlike you, we do not have plans that are in your plans. We do not claim world domination. The Army and Navy are not a collective farm to be cost-effective. The Army and Navy are the country's defense structure and look for benefits in this absurd.
              take a closer look ...
              1. Vitaly Anisimov
                Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 21: 02
                0
                Quote: Smiles at you
                take a closer look ...

                It happens..)))
                Here is the answer:
                Quote: Smiles at you
                Unfortunately, sitting at a PC, it is impossible to answer for your words ...
                And in real life, yes !!!
                Therefore, the reality is different from the Internet ... A little ...

                So what does it mean ? I answer for my comments dear .. Or do you want to invite me to the "arrow"))) to prove something ..? Let's get a phone number ..)))
              2. Vitaly Anisimov
                Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 21: 02
                -1
                Quote: Smiles at you
                take a closer look ...

                It happens..)))
                Here is the answer:
                Quote: Smiles at you
                Unfortunately, sitting at a PC, it is impossible to answer for your words ...
                And in real life, yes !!!
                Therefore, the reality is different from the Internet ... A little ...

                So what does it mean ? I answer for my comments dear .. Or do you want to invite me to the "arrow"))) to prove something ..? Let's get a phone number ..)))
                1. Smiles to you
                  Smiles to you April 26 2014 21: 15
                  +1
                  You are funny !!! Are you threatening me...?
                  If I deem it necessary not to prove (but explain) my point
                  view, opinion. I will do it (try), culturally and respectfully,
                  without threats and rudeness.
                  Personally, YOU, as a user, are not interested in this resource (by and large).
                  Need my number? you're welcome...
                2. Smiles to you
                  Smiles to you April 26 2014 21: 26
                  +1
                  I threw off the number, on your soap. What else interests you? Do not be shy...
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                  2. Vitaly Anisimov
                    Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 23: 20
                    -2
                    Quote: Smiles to You
                    I threw off the number, on your soap. What else interests you? Do not be shy...

                    I do not need a license number .. Everything is fine. This is my .........banned and deleted by moderator Apollo.
  • konvalval
    konvalval April 26 2014 17: 38
    +2
    National policy is one of the most difficult issues. In multinational states, its integrity depends on the correct implementation of this very policy.
  • 1536
    1536 April 26 2014 17: 43
    +4
    And we rely on them, we joke that if the Vostok battalion is sent to Ukraine, the war will end in a day. But I still think that all this is again financed by the hand of Washington and directed through intelligence channels. And only the narrow-minded or bought do not see this.
    In Russia there is every opportunity for study, work, family formation, professional growth for all its citizens, no matter what faith they profess, no matter who they consider themselves to be.
    But if everything goes bad, if the Americans come to our land, then Dagestan and the Caucasus as a whole will at best become an Indian-style reservation, and at worst, the people will be subjected to genocide by the American invaders. I think even the corrupt ones will not remain there.
    The statement on the transfer of land to Azerbaijan is another matter. This country opposes the entry of Crimea into Russia. For what such beautiful eyes were the lands in the mountains transferred? This does not fit into any kind. If anything, then this "blogger" will merge all of Russia, like Gorbachev.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 26 2014 22: 48
      +1
      Quote: 1536
      What kind of beautiful eyes were these lands transferred to in the mountains?

      Damn it’s difficult to go in and ask ???? These lands were rented from Azerbaijan, the lease term has expired !! And they offered people or accept citizenship and remain or expire with the expired term. One village chose to leave the second to stay.
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 26 2014 17: 46
    +3
    The Caucasus has always loved gingerbread cookies! But if there was no whip in the other hand of the lactator, he immediately tried to cling to his throat!
    1. Wheel
      Wheel April 26 2014 22: 02
      +1
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      The Caucasus has always loved gingerbread cookies! But if there was no whip in the other hand of the lactator, he immediately tried to cling to his throat!

      Hmm, where do we have modern General Ermolov?
      1. equity
        equity April 27 2014 03: 16
        +1
        Wheel: Look. Don’t tear yours!
  • demotivator
    demotivator April 26 2014 17: 49
    +1
    You can find fault with anything, but in this case the article is correct. Especially for understanding the problems of today's Caucasus. It’s good to give advice while sitting at a computer in the Russian outback, and here in the North Caucasus we live side by side with our neighbors - the peoples of Dagestan, Kabardino-Balkaria, Chechnya, Ingushetia, Ossetia and Kalmykia. There is no escape from this. And if there are problems, then they need to be addressed. How - everyone is free to offer their own options, without prejudice to anyone. And this is not so simple.
    1. Smiles to you
      Smiles to you April 26 2014 17: 55
      +3
      everyone is free to offer their own options, without prejudice to anyone

      I see only one option, not only for the North. Caucasus and all
      Russian Regions: Politics, Mutual Acceptance and Neighborhood ...
    2. Lelek
      Lelek April 26 2014 18: 21
      +5
      Michael, you are right. I just want to supplement it. For half a century (and this is read by three generations), the Caucasian republics have lived in a privileged position with respect to the rest of the population of the USSR (with the exception of the Baltic states). Overnight, they lost this and began to look for the guilty one. Found - Russians. And the fact that the leaders of the republics and party bonuses did not hit finger to organize production (with the exception of grapes, tomatoes and citrus fruits) was again blamed on the Russians. The problems of the Caucasian peoples are deliberately inflated by those who really want to tear our common home and turn it into present-day Afghanistan. No.
      1. alone
        alone April 26 2014 19: 15
        0
        Quote: Lelek
        The problems of the Caucasian peoples are deliberately inflated by those who really want to tear our common home and turn it into present-day Afghanistan.

        By the way, shades of Afghanistan are already available. Give an example? Bearded militants in the mountains. Like in Afghanistan
    3. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 18: 22
      +1
      Quote: demotivator
      You can find fault with anything, but in this case the article is correct. Especially for understanding the problems of today's Caucasus. It’s good to give advice while sitting at a computer in the Russian outback, and here in the North Caucasus we live side by side with our neighbors - the peoples of Dagestan, Kabardino-Balkaria, Chechnya, Ingushetia, Ossetia and Kalmykia. There is no escape from this. And if there are problems, then they need to be addressed. How - everyone is free to offer their own options, without prejudice to anyone. And this is not so simple.

      Plus you .. True, I do not agree about the Russian hinterland) We remember the 90s very well and the "hot Caucasian" until they shot, they would not have calmed down .. (there was such a wave, no one knows what and how) but it became quiet immediately and now too ..! hi
    4. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 April 26 2014 19: 48
      0
      So what, in your opinion, is the correctness of the article? I didn’t notice any suggestions for solving the problem.
  • Vorodis_vA
    Vorodis_vA April 26 2014 18: 15
    +1
    in private conversations, all the nations of the world are very friendly. and the media of course all kindle ... from there and the problem
    1. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 April 26 2014 20: 10
      +4
      Media about the massacre of Russians in Chechnya was somehow not very "kindled" then and is modestly silent now.
    2. Stavros
      Stavros April 26 2014 21: 58
      +1
      You would have seen how in Rostov, the Armenians and Azerbaijanis thump together, and things work together. Quiet and grace, no disagreement.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 26 2014 22: 49
        +2
        Quote: Stavros
        You would have seen how in Rostov, the Armenians and Azerbaijanis thump together, and things work together. Quiet and grace, no disagreement.

        And believe me, they with the same pleasure will cut each other and blow up. Let this not mislead you))
        1. Stavros
          Stavros April 26 2014 22: 59
          0
          Why did you decide this? Why did you get the idea that everyone wants to cut each other up? Do not judge everyone by yourself.
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz April 26 2014 23: 19
            +2
            Quote: Stavros
            Why did you decide that? Why did you think that everyone wants to cut each other up?

            I am well acquainted with the local people and customs. At the household level, especially outside Dagestan, all Dagestanis, and inside everyone becomes Kumyks, Avars, etc. and each one has a lot of questions for each other. And only being in Russia keeps at least some kind of balance. As soon as he leaves, everyone will want to grab everything for himself. If the Arabs of Lebanon kill each other only because someone is Sunni and Shiite, why talk about different nations. Kumyks remember very well how in the early 90s Avars shouted all Kumyks to Tyumen, Chechens will not forget their Khasavyurt, the problem of the land of Kumyks is very acute and much more.
            Quote: Stavros
            Do not judge all by yourself.

            Judging by realities, not by myself.
  • Ilotan
    Ilotan April 26 2014 18: 17
    +4
    Don't give the poor man a fish - give him a fishing rod, let him catch himself. It will be more useful. So it is with the Caucasus. There is no need to feed him. If we develop our own production in the North Caucasian regions, eliminate unemployment - 50% of the problems will disappear immediately, the remaining 50% of the problems must be solved by a competent national policy of the federal authorities and active opposition to the ideological sabotage of our Western "friends" and Islamic radicals.
    1. Smiles to you
      Smiles to you April 26 2014 18: 24
      +2
      Road going by walking!
      In the old days they used to say, “He who does not want to work, he is looking for a reason, and he who wants to is looking for a way.”
  • DanSabaka
    DanSabaka April 26 2014 18: 22
    +5
    I saw the inscription on the wall in the mask: "THE CAUCASUS IS POWER!" I was not too lazy, I added below: - "cheap, working" ....
    1. Alex Nick
      Alex Nick April 26 2014 18: 57
      +3
      I saw an inscription on the wall in Moscow: "THE CAUCASUS IS POWER!" ..I would write "Russian Caucasus-power"
      1. Smiles to you
        Smiles to you April 26 2014 19: 16
        -1
        Good girl !!!
        And DEBILOV, everywhere is enough ...
  • mvv
    mvv April 26 2014 18: 23
    +1
    hell and hellish soton, not an article.
  • individual
    individual April 26 2014 18: 36
    +2
    I read, I read the interview, but I just had to get acquainted with the ending:
    "Islam will become the core of the new state. Islamization is taking place in the Caucasus by leaps and bounds. It is also observed in Russian society."

    That's it!
    Do not add, nor diminish.
    The rest of the word and fleur ...
    1. Wheel
      Wheel April 26 2014 22: 32
      0
      Quote: individ
      I read, I read the interview, but I just had to get acquainted with the ending:
      "Islam will become the core of the new state. Islamization is taking place in the Caucasus by leaps and bounds. It is also observed in Russian society."
      Like this! Do not add, nor diminish. The rest of the word and fleur ...

      Totally agree with you!
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet April 26 2014 18: 41
    +4
    Now I will single out some of the statements of Mr. Muhammad AVARI, and you will evaluate them against the background of how the children of the mountains behave in our area: “There is no such drunkenness in the Caucasus, such a decline in morals, as in the Russian regions of Russia.” “But a Chechen takes a girl by the hand only when he proposes to her to marry. "," If a Caucasian feels Russia as a Motherland, then he will willingly give his life for her. " They are so modest, educated and patriotic, but we are licentious and immoral, we offend them and do not value them.
    1. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 April 26 2014 20: 05
      +2
      Everything is actually very simple and complex at the same time. For a Chechen, the girl he takes by the hand, etc. etc., it is, first of all, the representative of his people, the elderly, to whom he treats with respect and reverence, are also representatives of his people, his teip, his family. In relation to Russians, this does not work because the Russians for him strangers, not their own, which means there is nothing to stand on ceremony with them, and if no one can stand up for themselves then no one at all. This is such a coordinate system.
  • koshh
    koshh April 26 2014 19: 01
    -2
    An article is a concrete attempt to sow in us. Russians, rejection of the Azerbaijani people.
    Negative article.
  • Turkir
    Turkir April 26 2014 19: 14
    +2
    Mr. Muhammad AVARI - wants to be understood and understood by Caucasian customs. And there is nothing wrong with that.
    Then he says that Caucasians have better customs (!). And in general they are passionaries. Actually, this is the Spanish word, adopted by Gumilyov. And how does he, Gumilev, describe these passionaries? As people who are ready to give their lives for anything, i.e. not really appreciating their life, as in a Russian fairy tale: I’ll go there, I don’t know where, I will find that, I don’t know what. Well, passionate people, passionaries. Avari has all passionaries, even those who PRODUCE passionaries and generally 4 types of passionaries appear. Such a classification, even Gumilyov does not. This is Mr. Avari invented, his author’s idea, so to speak. And Gauguin had a passionary, probably because he spat on everything.
    And then he jumps to Lezghin in Azerbaijan and their situation.
    Well, then, he says - you feed our elites, not the people, and in general Islam is taking great steps in the Caucasus.
    I would like to remind you that Islam appeared in the Caucasus due to the invasion of the Arabs of the 7-8 centuries and was not accepted voluntarily (what a trifle, is it worth remembering), the peoples of the Caucasus resisted this invasion as much as they could. And it was, Islam in its classical form, and not the one that is now moving through the Caucasus, as this gentleman reminiscently reminds us.
    And the Russians, so-so, are not passionaries, drink a lot - he reassures his followers.
    This gentleman needs passionaries, that’s the point, without them he’s nothing.
  • tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 April 26 2014 19: 23
    +2
    We all know about Russian nationalists, but here is an example of a Caucasian nationalist.
    1. Tor hummer
      Tor hummer April 26 2014 21: 32
      0
      Quote: Tupolev-95
      We all know about Russian nationalists, but here is an example of a Caucasian nationalist.

      They are generally all nationalists by default, and they are radical.
  • dimdimich71
    dimdimich71 April 26 2014 19: 30
    +1
    The code we understand, we are one, albeit former, but the USSR lives in the soul of everyone who found that time
  • samuil60
    samuil60 April 26 2014 19: 45
    -1
    And where did you see a Caucasian non-nationalist?
    1. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 April 26 2014 19: 55
      +3
      That's just it. If a Russian becomes a nationalist (by the way, it is often due to the nationalism of the "fraternal" peoples) that is bad. But for "passionaries" this is normal and good. Comrade is definitely a natsik and the one-sidedness of his opinion is visible to the naked eye.
    2. GREAT RUSSIA
      GREAT RUSSIA April 26 2014 23: 17
      +3
      YAYAAYAYAYAYAYAYA !!!!!!!!!!!! I'm your damn not a nationalist !!!!! Got it !!!!! YAYAYAYAYAYAYA !!!!! Damn it!!!!!!!!! my whole family is internationals! There are complaints ????? all my great-grandfathers died in the Great Patriotic War, for what ??????? For being insulted here by calling their descendant a nationalist ?????????? write what you want I will stand to the last !!! Negative! Do what you want, but I will stand to the last.
      Where have you all wise men seen at least one nation in which there would be no nationalist, traitor, thief ??????? A little something like that Caucasians, a little something like chocks !!
      Enough !!! Type gray matter into your head and see!
      It is necessary for residents to help, plant traitors, and of course to figure it out too. Only together, everyone! We are RUSSIANS, We are Brothers !! We have one country, one MOTHERLAND !!!!!! It's Russia!!! We are RUSSIANS !!!!!!!! And not a bunch of chocks, reptiles, who now and then look for a reason to find fault. WE ARE NOT RATS!
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 19: 51
    0
    Quote: dimdimich71
    The code we understand, we are one, albeit former, but the USSR lives in the soul of everyone who found that time

    When the Russian Army and Navy will become a serious argument in world politics And the main ally! bully .. Only in any way (verified.)
    1. Smiles to you
      Smiles to you April 26 2014 20: 06
      -1
      You checked it yourself, or someone. prompted?
      . Only in any way (verified.)
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 21: 13
        0
        I’ve planted a minus for you ..))) you can just laugh at it further .. hehe
      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 21: 13
        -1
        I’ve planted a minus for you ..))) you can just laugh at it further .. hehe
        1. Smiles to you
          Smiles to you April 26 2014 21: 30
          0
          Again, I do not understand. you ... what are you talking about? Or about whom?
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 22: 00
            +1
            Quote: Smiles to You
            Again, I do not understand. you ... what are you talking about? Or about whom?

            ..................))) banned and deleted by moderator Apollo I am short and clear! boring you, I smell such "floating" bully Like flood here? ))) Let’s all rest .. You’re already slipping and cleverly throwing questions .. (tactics are known) I repeat the first sentence .. hehe
            1. Smiles to you
              Smiles to you April 26 2014 22: 14
              +1
              Tongue, boneless, problem with the head.
              And so. Hand face...
              1. Vitaly Anisimov
                Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 22: 33
                -1
                Quote: Smiles to You
                Tongue, boneless, problem with the head.
                And so. Hand face...

                These are the things))) Ramzan Hello! )))
                1. Smiles to you
                  Smiles to you April 26 2014 22: 41
                  -1
                  And who is it? Do not know...
              2. The comment was deleted.
              3. alone
                alone April 26 2014 22: 47
                +1
                as always! when there is nothing to argue for what has been said, mat and insult begins.
                laughing
                1. Vitaly Anisimov
                  Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2014 22: 54
                  -1
                  Quote: lonely
                  as always! when there is nothing to argue for what has been said, mat and insult begins.
                  laughing

                  Here we are .. wassat we just constantly hear and read this. Do you agree with this?
                  1. alone
                    alone April 26 2014 23: 31
                    0
                    Both sides are good. It took me a month to read comments in Topvar. So much dirt has been read about Ukrainians in Russian forums and so much dirt about Russians on Ukrainian sites, it has become disgusting.
  • demotivator
    demotivator April 26 2014 19: 51
    +5
    Quote: koshh
    An article is a concrete attempt to sow in us. Russians, rejection of the Azerbaijani people.
    Negative article

    No one can sow anything if the field is not plowed. Where and in what did you see the "rejection" towards the Azerbaijani people? Maybe in this phrase:
    It is believed that about one and a half million Lezgins actually live in Azerbaijan. A million 200 thousand Lezgins are recorded as Turks - Azerbaijanis and they are forbidden to call themselves Lezgins.

    So it's true. Lezgins, one of the peoples of Dagestan, by the will of fate, turned out to be a divided people. They live with us, in Russia, and in the same Azerbaijan. Whatever one may say, but they are our compatriots. At what, the fact that Lezgins in Azerbaijan are trying to put it mildly "to count" not Lezgins, but Azerbaijanis, says only one Avari. Here is a fragment of an interview with a well-known Russian political scientist, head of the "Political Expert Group" Konstantin Kalachev:
    .... many Lezghins living in Azerbaijan are recorded as Azerbaijanis (often forced). Whether it is so or not, we leave it outside the brackets. But there is a problem of the perception of the situation by Russian Lezgins. They believe that their brothers are discriminated against in Azerbaijan. Again, let’s leave the brackets behind the explanation - this is actually not so.

    No country in the post-Soviet space wants federalization, the formation of any autonomy within itself. Be it Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, or who else.
    Now, to the question that HERE, at the forum, they want to quarrel with Azerbaijan. Oh oh An interview with the leader of the Right Sector Dmitry Yarosh appears on Azerbaijani Internet resources, who thanks the Azerbaijani people for their support and promises that Ukraine will not forget the pro-Russian position of Armenia. Does this mean anything to anyone?
    1. Stavros
      Stavros April 26 2014 22: 10
      +2
      Now, to the question that HERE, at the forum, they want to quarrel with Azerbaijan. Oh oh An interview with the leader of the "Right Sector" Dmitry Yarosh appears on Azerbaijani Internet resources, who thanks the Azerbaijani people for their support and promises that Ukraine will not forget the pro-Russian position of Armenia. Does this mean anything to anyone? [/ Quote]

      I want to note that during the years of the war in Karabakh, the entire Bandera husk, took an active part on the side of Azerbaijanis.
      1. alone
        alone April 26 2014 22: 48
        +1
        Quote: Stavros
        I want to note that during the years of the war in Karabakh, the entire Bandera husk, took an active part on the side of Azerbaijanis.

        Are there facts or are we grabbing stars from heaven again?
        1. Stavros
          Stavros April 26 2014 23: 18
          +1
          Lonely, you are an adult. Why ask a question and mow knowingly, knowing that UNA-UNSO fought for you in Karabakh.
          1. alone
            alone April 26 2014 23: 35
            +1
            I am a participant in this war. I have never seen Uno-Unso. And I had to fight everywhere on the front. The Ukrainians were. Former Soviet officers who agreed to join the National Army of Azerbaijan, having accepted the citizenship of Azerbaijan. Not every Ukrainian is Uno-Unso, not every Ukrainian is Bandera . Enough to brand all with one brand.
            In your opinion, if a Ukrainian loves his country and loves his language, it means he is uno-unso and Bandera. Stavros, why take the topic in a different direction? What is your goal?
            1. Stavros
              Stavros April 27 2014 00: 47
              +1
              Don’t worry, there’s absolutely no goal. I’m just stating a fact.
              1. alone
                alone April 27 2014 09: 42
                0
                You don’t have any concrete facts. Maybe there is a photo of the lost Unsovtsy with the organization’s chevrons, maybe prisoners in the Uno-Unso form? You just went in cycles on the pilot Belichenko, who was captured. He was not an Unsoviet, a former pilot of the USSR Air Force.
                1. Stavros
                  Stavros April 27 2014 13: 36
                  +1
                  Fuck with him, with Belichenko. Interview M. Karpyuk your news.az, where he acknowledges this.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 26 2014 22: 56
      -1
      Quote: demotivator
      An interview with the leader of the Right Sector Dmitry Yarosh appears on Azerbaijani Internet resources, who thanks the Azerbaijani people for their support and promises that Ukraine will not forget the pro-Russian position of Armenia. Does this mean anything to anyone?

      Yes, this suggests that Azerbaijan aims at the principle of territorial integrity, supported Serbia on the Kosovo issue, and not the Muslim Albanian brothers and Serbs are grateful to Baku for this, and also supported Ukraine, for which many from Ukraine, including Yarosh, are grateful.
      1. Stavros
        Stavros April 26 2014 23: 24
        +2
        Eraz, you recognized the integrity of Serbia because you have a Karabakh problem. If there weren’t a Karabakh problem, you would have recognized both Kosovo and the TRNC for a long time. And do not entertain yourself with the illusions that the Serbs are grateful to you, they perfectly know what the trick is.
        1. alone
          alone April 27 2014 00: 18
          +1
          And not only. There is international law. The territorial integrity of any country is above all. Regarding Kosovo, it is exactly the same. I am 100% sure that if we hadn’t this problem, we would not have recognized it anyway.
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 27 2014 00: 20
          +1
          Quote: Stavros
          Eraz, you recognized the integrity of Serbia because you have a Karabakh problem. If there weren’t a Karabakh problem, you would have recognized both Kosovo and the TRNC for a long time. And do not entertain yourself with the illusions that the Serbs are grateful to you, they perfectly know what the trick is.

          Well, if you go according to the theory anyhow, then everything could be different. We proceed from what we have. In fact.
    3. alone
      alone April 26 2014 23: 37
      +2
      Quote: demotivator
      Now, to the question that HERE, at the forum, they want to quarrel with Azerbaijan. Oh oh An interview with the leader of the Right Sector Dmitry Yarosh appears on Azerbaijani Internet resources, who thanks the Azerbaijani people for their support and promises that Ukraine will not forget the pro-Russian position of Armenia. Does this mean anything to anyone?

      When the UN General Assembly twice raised the question of the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, Russia voted against 2 times, and Ukraine voted in favor.
      What a hello, that’s the answer.
  • Double major
    Double major April 26 2014 19: 59
    +4
    Relations between Russia and the peoples of the Caucasus now remain under attack from the enemy, who did not abandon his intentions to blow up our country from the inside, to launch it along the Yugoslav-Libyan-Syrian path. Caucasians and I are persecuted completely professionally, using all the means available to the enemy. Here both interfaith and interethnic differences between ethnic groups develop. Here, read: http://yadi.sk/d/Z0jWF0zdMEy9R
  • jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer April 26 2014 20: 02
    +5
    uff .. I didn't even get a grasp of it .. I looked at this "passionate" people. Impudent wild overgrown. No respect, I remembered by the way, look. I will not insert videos from the Chechen war.
  • Admin 54
    Admin 54 April 26 2014 20: 12
    +2
    NORMAL PEOPLE LIVE IN DAGESTAN. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN FROM DAGESTAN. AND WE ARE NOT HEARING KNOW DAGESTAN PEOPLE: VERY HOSPITABLE, GOOD, THE LAST WILL GIVE TO YOU. THERE ARE VERY STRONGLY RESPECT AND RESPECT FOR WOMAN, OLD OLD PEOPLE. WE WOULD LEARN THIS TO THEM. SUCH MAT IN RUSSIA THERE ARE NOT HEARD TO YOU AND DO NOT MEET DRINKS. OF COURSE, SCREAMS ARE AMONG PEOPLE OF ANY FAITH AND NATIONALITY. DO NOT CRITICALLY DISCUSS PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS WITH THEM. JUST COME TO DAGESTAN AND BE SURE YOURSELF
    1. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 April 26 2014 20: 24
      +2
      So the Russians began to be expelled from the Caucasus for obscenities and drunkenness? There it is. Thank you, enlightened.
      1. Admin 54
        Admin 54 April 26 2014 20: 36
        +1
        IN THIS CASE I HAVE SEEN ONLY DAGESTAN PEOPLE
        1. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 April 26 2014 20: 58
          +1
          Well then, explain why there are much fewer Russians in Dagestan than in the days of the Union.
          1. Admin 54
            Admin 54 April 26 2014 23: 13
            +1
            elementary: Russian in terms of economic (entrepreneurial) there in the 90s became much more difficult. to whom there was where to grin, he left. who remained, that adapted to new conditions. for example, the reasons for my departure were purely economic: the plant was left without orders. as a result of 3 months I am without a salary. wife is a teacher at school. and we have two small children in our arms. and what was I to do? to go to the porch ?.
            1. Admin 54
              Admin 54 April 26 2014 23: 36
              +1
              И
              RACE:
              Against the Russian population in Dagestan, such measures as today in Ukraine were not supposed to be applied even with a sore head. But in Ukraine it seems both here and there SLAVES
      2. Smiles to you
        Smiles to you April 26 2014 20: 42
        0
        Long. didn’t laugh like that.
        Where are you from? From Mars?

        So the Russians began to be expelled from the Caucasus for obscenities and drunkenness.

        Specify what kind of Caucasus is it? Which republic?
        I live in Sev. Caucasus. For the first time I hear this ...
        May I have the details? If not a military secret ...
        1. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 April 26 2014 20: 54
          -1
          Born in Grozny. More details?
          1. Smiles to you
            Smiles to you April 26 2014 21: 20
            -1
            So. Is this happening in Grozny (Chechnya)?
            1. Turkir
              Turkir April 26 2014 22: 16
              0
              And where exactly do you live in the North Caucasus? He is big.
            2. tupolev-95
              tupolev-95 April 26 2014 22: 16
              0
              What is "such"? You took my comment, "So the Russians began to be expelled from the Caucasus for swearing and drunkenness? That's what it is. Thank you, enlightened." literally? Then read more closely - it was irony. If you read the comments of Admin 54, you will understand what I mean.
              1. Smiles to you
                Smiles to you April 26 2014 22: 27
                -2
                This is a post. admin54
                NORMAL PEOPLE LIVE IN DAGESTAN. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN FROM DAGESTAN. AND WE ARE NOT HEARING KNOW DAGESTAN PEOPLE: VERY HOSPITABLE, GOOD, THE LAST WILL GIVE TO YOU. THERE ARE VERY STRONGLY RESPECT AND RESPECT FOR WOMAN, OLD OLD PEOPLE. WE WOULD LEARN THIS TO THEM. SUCH MAT IN RUSSIA THERE ARE NOT HEARD TO YOU AND DO NOT MEET DRINKS. OF COURSE, SCREAMS ARE AMONG PEOPLE OF ANY FAITH AND NATIONALITY. DO NOT CRITICALLY DISCUSS PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS WITH THEM. JUST COME TO DAGESTAN AND BE SURE YOURSELF

                And your jokes, Tupolev-95, I think is not appropriate ...
                1. tupolev-95
                  tupolev-95 April 26 2014 22: 46
                  -1
                  Consider what you want. Just don't sing songs about "good passionaries" and what kind of Russian frostbitten natsiks. The appearance of Russian fascists is a considerable merit of Caucasian "passionaries". And since they "fit" for the admin54, the question is, "Well then, explain why Russian in Dagestan much less than during the Soviet Union. "
                  1. Smiles to you
                    Smiles to you April 27 2014 02: 52
                    0
                    If you can. say understandable. tongue. don't be smart ...
    2. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 27 2014 04: 31
      +3
      Turned over in a car, the most interesting thing is that our Russians drove by a little bit by brake, it was the Dagestanis passing by in winter, spending 2 hours on us, they put the car on wheels. So whose benefit is the conclusion? Many very many indifferent among us!
    3. jagdpanzer
      jagdpanzer April 28 2014 08: 57
      0
      THERE ARE VERY STRONGLY RESPECT AND RESPECT FOR WOMAN, OLD OLD
      about the attitude, see above! At home, for such a thing they would instantly cut off both the whistle and the hanging! And here everything is possible!
  • demotivator
    demotivator April 26 2014 20: 31
    +2
    Quote: jagdpanzer
    Arrogant wild overgrown. No respect,

    And arrogant, and wild, and overgrown - everything is so. But who is on the video? And then, what does it mean "I've seen enough of this passionate people"? I also saw enough during the second Chechen war, when the Dagestanis together with us fought against Basayev's gangs. They did not support the Chechen bandits, but together with the federal troops gave them a worthy rebuff. Have you already forgotten that ?!
    Quote: jagdpanzer
    in full swing ...
    When it boils, a head in the cold water perches - helps.
  • Leshka
    Leshka April 26 2014 20: 48
    0
    First, we need to eradicate corruption and terrorism in Dagestan
    1. Smiles to you
      Smiles to you April 26 2014 21: 00
      0
      First, we need to eradicate corruption and terrorism in Dagestan

      Yes.
      But, as you know: The fish rots from the head ... (Corruption)
      And with all sorts of genera: Separatists, terrorists, Islamists, we will also cope. Not only specialists fight with them. but also the people of Dagestan (For the most part) ...
      1. Turkir
        Turkir April 26 2014 22: 19
        0
        Yes, but in Dagestan, not one ethnic group lives. What is the relationship between each other?
        1. Smiles to you
          Smiles to you April 26 2014 22: 37
          0
          Not understood? Clarify your thought ...
        2. alone
          alone April 26 2014 22: 53
          +4
          Quote: Turkir
          Yes, but in Dagestan, not one ethnic group lives. What is the relationship between each other?

          not easy. Each national mafia took a certain profitable industry to its hand and planted its own cookies everywhere and the others without butter. It’s a little tough to work. Everywhere is the arbitrariness of local authorities and the police. There are a lot of people dissatisfied with life. and the criminal situation is difficult.
          1. Turkir
            Turkir April 27 2014 09: 19
            0
            Thanks, now it’s clear.
  • sovetskyturist
    sovetskyturist April 26 2014 20: 55
    0
    [quoThe average Russian is a viewer. On TV, only the worst is said about the Caucasus. As long as the template is alive, everything will be calm in the country. Everyone who comes to ...............te] [/ quote] travit narody mezdu soboj, efektivnyj sposob upravlenuja
  • sovetskyturist
    sovetskyturist April 26 2014 20: 57
    0
    nado vsegda dumat svojej golovoj, GLAVNOJE SOVEST
  • sovetskyturist
    sovetskyturist April 26 2014 21: 03
    0
    white versus red, orthodox versus Orthodox .... and so on
  • demotivator
    demotivator April 26 2014 21: 06
    +2
    Quote: individ
    I read, I read the interview, but I just had to get acquainted with the ending:
    "Islam will become the core of the new state. Islamization is taking place in the Caucasus by leaps and bounds. It is also observed in Russian society."
    That's it!
    Do not add, nor diminish.
    The rest of the word and fleur ...

    But these words are torn from the general text. And if you quote the phrase completely, you get a completely different meaning!
    Caucasians are very passionate. Precisely because they are passionate, they are no less patriotic citizens of Russia than Russians. If a Caucasian feels Russia as his Motherland - Mother, then he will willingly give his life for her. But if he sees that the Motherland - Mother turns into a stepmother, then he will just as easily die for the cause of the collapse of this "stepmother." A Caucasian thinks: if Russia has become a stepmother for him, then she is an enemy and other peoples who inhabit it.
    First, no one can deprive anyone of the right to be a patriot. We Russians consider ourselves patriots of Russia, and what are the peoples of the Caucasus less patriotic? Further - the willingness to give his life for "Russia as a Motherland - Mother". Haven't the peoples of Dagestan proved this in practice? Even during the Second World War, even in the recent events during the 2nd Chechen war. Now about the Islamization of the Caucasus. It's not Avari who is conducting it. He states a fact, and as a Muslim he clearly sees what kind of Islam is imposed on us in Russia from the outside and what danger it poses. Moreover, it reminds us that "it (Islamization) is observed in Russian society." Here's something to think about. This is when we had such a thing for "Russian Wahhabis" to carry out terrorist acts in Russia? And after all, more than a dozen Russian families have declared their children on the wanted list, who have put on a hijab, or from Misha and Andreev turned into Saidov and Magomedov. Alexander Tikhomirov (Said Buryatsky) was born into a Russian and Buryat family, converted to Islam at the age of 15, and in 2008 went to the North Caucasus. He was responsible for the training of suicide bombers among the militants and led a network of sabotage schools. Involved in the assassination attempt on the head of Ingushetia Yu.-B. Yevkurov and other terrorist attacks. Destroyed by special services in 2010
    Vitaly Razdobudko, a resident of Pyatigorsk, was accused of organizing a terrorist attack at Domodedovo Airport. According to intelligence agencies, in 2011 he blew himself up near a police post in Dagestan. A few hours earlier, at another post, the wife of Razdobudko blew herself up - Maria Khorosheva.
    Alla Saprykina, an actress who managed to be married to three field commanders of the militants (two were destroyed), in 2012 entered the house of Sheikh Said Afandi, respected in Dagestan, and blew up an explosive belt on herself. As a result of the attack, seven people were killed: the sheikh himself and six parishioners (including one teenager). Another person was taken to the hospital.
    Viktor Dvorakovsky, a resident of the Stavropol Territory, was sentenced to 23 years in prison. A makeshift explosive device went off in his apartment. He hid, and during a search he found extremist literature and explosives.
    Alyona Bykova from the Volgograd region was sentenced to 3 years and 3 months in prison: via the Internet, she volunteered to carry out a terrorist attack and found two more Russians who wanted to become “martyrs”.
    So, really, the BATTLE FIELD is the CAUCASUS.

    1. GREAT RUSSIA
      GREAT RUSSIA April 26 2014 23: 52
      +1
      Quote: demotivator
      So, really, the BATTLE FIELD is the CAUCASUS.

      They always had it. The Caucasus is a mountain stronghold of Russia, one leg (support, paw) of a big bear, (you’ll understand the similarities on the map) and a bear with three legs will not last long.
  • sovetskyturist
    sovetskyturist April 26 2014 21: 07
    +1
    divide and conquer -who was guilty of fornication and war of the head, the faithful against the Orthodox further divorce, they are against us
  • KBPC50
    KBPC50 April 26 2014 21: 24
    +2
    Quote: asar
    There were, there were heroes in the Caucasus during the Second World War! Let's not deny, let's not find fault! In the end - and one black sheep spoils the whole flock! It is not necessary to "paint" all the people in one color! You can minus, but that's my opinion!
    Absolutely right! Forgot that surname - GADZHIEV. In honor of this man, the whole city of the Navy - GADZHIEVO - was named. Regarding the separation - one must be a complete idiot to do this. Russia is a great country and its wealth in a huge number of peoples and cultures. Different, but this makes Russia the most unique. (and there are always enough geeks everywhere, I don’t even want to talk about it) read - http://www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=1268
  • Al_lexx
    Al_lexx April 26 2014 21: 55
    +1
    Not an unequivocal, but no less interesting opinion of the interviewee.
    I would like to believe (although difficult) that this politician does not play games, but is trying to put things in order in his "fiefdom".
  • s1н7т
    s1н7т April 26 2014 22: 09
    +8
    On the one hand, putting things in order in Dagestan (as well as in the entire North Caucasus) is not worth a damn (the moron Grachev cannot be remembered), but on the other hand, when he served in the army, there was a Dagestani ensign who from KPVT solved some problems. Somehow, you know, I remember. The Bolsheviks invented national problems for us - in the name of these nationalities, with whom there are now problems. I do not blame them - the idea was simply not developed, did not have time. Now we have what we have. Thanks to those who voted for Yeltsin's murder and United Russia! There is no national policy in the country. In the country, production fell by 3%. In general, we will survive. Together. Don't go anywhere. War is not income for everyone and not for long. The smart ones understand this, the fools will die out. And God willing, if the children live to see nationalization, then many questions will disappear. Including national ones. For there will be no "elites" who are promoting all this. In my birth certificate there is a stamp "Meeting of village deputies" of a village in the Nakhichevan ASSR. This gave me the right to consider all Azeris in the SA as "earths". And after all, then they brought the carcasses of sheep to the barbecue - just so that they could sit together, to feel like they were among their own people. No, brothers, it was right under the Union - we are all one people. Well, they did not have time to bring to mind. Thank you, "tagged", damn it!
    1. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 April 27 2014 00: 50
      +3
      Emotionally ... but at the level of sensations it is very true
    2. equity
      equity April 27 2014 03: 41
      +1
      s1n7t (6) I completely agree with you!