Save, not fight

They are afraid that America cunningly lures Russia to Ukraine, as if it were a trap. Like, you can not get into the army there, we must endure and close our eyes to the crimes of the junta, not yielding to provocations.

But what is the trap, explain? The fact that Russia will return the native Ukrainian lands, protect people and restore order there? The fact that Russia will grow population and restore historical justice?

Will repel fascism and Bandera Nazism? What patriotic and creative moods will flare up with unprecedented force? What will the United States receive the next and most painful blow to its status as a world hegemon and will be forced to lick its wounds with the help of stupid sanctions?

What is going to drastically change the architecture of international politics towards a fairer model? What is this terribly cunning American trap?

Americans encourage junta violence against the South-East for the simple reason that otherwise the junta is simply not able to stay in power. They are forced and will continue to wage war with the people of Ukraine.

This is not a provocation, but actions natural to them. They are created to kill Russian and will do it. That way you can say that Hitler lured the Russians to Berlin, destroying them by the millions and breaking through to Moscow.

We are frightened by the war with the brothers. There will be no war with the people of Ukraine. There will be a rescue operation to protect our native people from the criminals who sat down in Kiev with the help of the Americans.

This is true, and it must be announced from all the stands. It would be nice if, along with the liberation army of Russia, the Emergencies Ministry detachments with humanitarian aid entered the Ukraine - this would become a symbol of the fact that the Russians are going to save, not fight. Moreover, Ukraine is indeed a humanitarian catastrophe, and there is an urgent need for medicines, food, resources, and legal order.

We must tell the truth. Call the criminals criminals, their victims - the victims, and protect them from criminals - defenders. The truth is that simple and pleasant.

If the impostors and Nazis who seized power in Kiev kill people who disagree with them and do not want to give them their home, then our duty and our right to protect them. The junta only now does not compare Slavyansk and the whole Donbass to the ground, that the Russian army is concentrated on the border, and in the UN Security Council Churkin.

Were it not for Russia, the Southeast would have blazed with fire, and punitive people would not be shy of anything - neither OSCE observers, nor paid journalists. As it was in Kosovo and many other countries. The West and its Bandera mercenaries are those who fight with Ukraine.

That is the aggressor. Russian soldiers will become defenders of these people, they will be greeted with flowers, Russian and Little Russian feast songs will be sung with them. Polite Russians TanksHaving destroyed an insignificant group of bandits dressed in Ukrainian military uniforms (yes, a real military operation will be needed here, and victims are possible there), they will then roll children and grateful women on their polite armor through the cities of New Russia and Ukraine.

The remaining work on the destruction of the junta will be done by quite impolite special forces. The NATO army will not fight for them, as Obama warned several times. To kill their own soldiers for the Aborigines is not in the tradition of "democratic peace." Yes, the Americans managed to create chaos in Ukraine, but they cannot see full-fledged war in our land.

Stop scaring Russia. We are frightened and know the price of these horror stories very well. Russians do not want war and will not lead it. But the Russians do not abandon theirs. And if they quit, then not for long, and they must come for their own. This will be the return home. A welcome return and reunion.

Yes, not all residents of Ukraine will be happy, and it will take time for their brains to move away from aggressive zombies. Yes, you will have to explain and explain a lot, remind our common history, re-educate young people in the central and western regions.

But they will not fight with the Russian army, it can be clearly seen from the results of the mobilization carried out by the junta - about 2%. Over time, all wounds will heal, and millions of Russians on this and the other side of the Dnieper will find a common language and recall their roots.

Together we will begin to rebuild the long-suffering land of Ukraine and create a Eurasian empire. In which Russophobia place will be only in the caches of the Caucasian and Carpathian mountains, in the most impassable places.

I repeat - the Russian army is going to save Ukraine, and not to fight with it. Point.

Comments

[svp67]

I repeat - the Russian army is going to save Ukraine, and not to fight with it. Point.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that not a dot but a comma. Our army is waiting for 15 percent of the population there, and then in the Southeast regions, and 50% is ready to fight with it, and this is mainly YOUTH ... the mood of the population of Ukraine over the past 20 years has changed dramatically and it’s IMPOSSIBLE not to notice it. ..

[Oleg14774]

Quote: svp67

the mood of the population of Ukraine over the past 20 years has changed dramatically and not notice this ...

I do not think that your words reflect reality. I have relatives in Ukraine, and turn for Russia, in Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk region. 80 percent, as in the Crimea, in the west, yes, and even then their eyes also open. So I can assume that your opinion is a product of fooling our liberals and their press. What is now impossible is another matter, but this pause is needed so that people would open their eyes in the same western Ukraine. And to prepare public opinion in Europe and the United States. When there was no choice and troops were brought into South Ossetia, I had to wash myself for a long time, now while I have patience and there is an opportunity to reconfigure the west and advance OUR ideology, which is very close to the patriotic forces in the same west and in the USA. It is precisely our ideology that the hegemon is most afraid of.

[svp67]

Quote: Oleg147741

I have relatives in Ukraine, and turn for Russia, in Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk region. 80 percent as in the Crimea,

To begin with, Crimea is Russia and it will not be able to enter your interest, and this will significantly reduce them. Further, I come from those places and can judge by personal impressions. For Russia, mainly the elderly generation, which still lived under the USSR and they have something to compare with. The overwhelming majority of young people are opposed, this is reflected in 23 years of independence ... When I tell them every day about the NEGATIVE role of Russia in the history of Ukraine, about the HOLODOMOR, which Russia is accused of, about the purges of the NKVD, which Russia is again to blame for, when they watch films where Russians are to blame for all the troubles of Ukraine, they could not have a different opinion. So, I’m glad for your relatives that they retained their views. Alas, I can’t say such things about mine, as well as about many people with whom I was friends before, for them I am now the enemy.

[Tartary]

Quote: svp67

Alas, I can’t say such things about mine, as well as about many people with whom I was friends before, for them I am now the enemy.

And many of my friends and acquaintances say this to me ...
What it is simply impossible to talk to many of your own in Ukraine - the feeling that there is zombie darkness.

[user]

We are scared by the war with the brothers. There will be no war with the inhabitants of Ukraine.


Yes, wipe your eyes, in today's Ukraine, not all brothers. Do the brothers give me 10 bucks for the capture and, interestingly, they catch someone. Do the brothers urge to destroy mo @ rocks. Is it all this time that the Right Sector was on the Maidan, and who were these hundreds if not thousands of Kievites who helped them. So do not create illusions about Independent.

[asar]

Throw in the special forces of the Airborne Forces, the GRU, "clad" twigs, belts! And GORGE, squeeze Gore !!! Before clearing the brain !!! Hard to smack !!! to Maidana, flog!

[Validator]

Quote: asar

Throw in the special forces of the Airborne Forces, the GRU, "clad" twigs, belts! And GORGE, squeeze Gore !!! Before clearing the brain !!! Hard to smack !!! to Maidana, flog!

They need to be torn by arguments. and access to the media. And this, it seems, without intervention is already impossible

[asar]

You're right! I rashly, did not think, and "slapped" my comment! I am sorry, members of the forum!

[Validator]

Quote: Tartary

Quote: svp67

Alas, I can’t say such things about mine, as well as about many people with whom I was friends before, for them I am now the enemy.

And many of my friends and acquaintances say this to me ...
What it is simply impossible to talk to many of your own in Ukraine - the feeling that there is zombie darkness.

Ukrosmi at all work. It was in vain that the USA spent 5 yards. Global propaganda is a terrible weapon. But all the more, it is necessary to intervene before it is too late, otherwise we will lose millions of people in the Russian world. The window of opportunity is not so big, if we do not return Ukraine this year, we can completely lose, there will be Poland-2

[vlum]

A social survey, Anna News, showed very high percentages for Russia. separately for different regions, and not together or separately from the Crimea.

And not so long ago, I heard from the Maydan one that in the Crimea there was no interest for Russia - everything was just blown up with an automatic muzzle, and Dzhemilev was a super-national leader of the Tatars. And whom to believe? It is impossible to believe the Maidan.

[vlum]

If everything is so bad with the support of Russia, then why should Kiev be afraid of a referendum ?! To conduct it, to see that all-all-all is true and nobody needs Russia ... What are they afraid of?

[dmitriygorshkov]

. What are they afraid of?

And another fair question then: -What do we want? If you say that in Ukraine there are no people close to us, that's fine! We close the borders with Ukraine tightly, write them in outcasts in school textbooks (which, in principle, will not lie, well, or at least we sin against the truth by an order of magnitude smaller than them) Yes, and forget the fuck! We lived without them for 23 years and will live another 10! So what?
Is that what you are calling for?

[Roman 57 rus]

It seems like shock therapy is needed in a sense .. imho.

[skifd]

Quote: Roman 57 rus

It seems like shock therapy is needed in a sense .. imho.

Which one? There they are "formatted" to the point where they don't see obvious things:

[koshh]

Sorry for the host. OH, poor man, he still hasn't learned "mov"

[Kite]

Quote: vlum

If everything is so bad with the support of Russia, then why should Kiev be afraid of a referendum ?!

- I asked such a question. If the masses do not support federalization or separation, then why not consolidate the state at the moment, while industry is still breathing and gives some support to the state. Over time, the situation will worsen, the ability to hold referenda will simply disappear. So, is that the purpose? It seems that - yes, the goal is to destroy a piece of the Slavic world, simultaneously creating a mess at the Russian border. But, external intervention by the local majority will not be approved (there is pride, some kind). By the way, pride could be confirmed by winning his battle. I would like to help in the battle with the banderlogs and NATO occupiers, but the probability is not very small now in a hurry to be met as an occupier. The masses have not yet expressed their opinion. So, the matter is being wrecked. It is a pity that such is their choice.

[fbn]

To provide humanitarian, informational assistance, political support in the international arena, but not to get involved in military operations on the territory of Ukraine, referendums in the regions have not yet been held. The junta is sleeping and sees when Russia will be drawn into the war, which will allow them to remain in power indefinitely.

[Slon1978]

I confirm your words. I also come from Ukraine, I have been living in Russia for many years and consider this country to be my own, but unfortunately I see that some of the relatives living in Ukraine have a negative attitude towards Russia and, on the whole, assess the role of Russia in the current situation extremely negatively. To be against Yanukovych or against the Junta does not at all mean automatically being for Russia. Shooting at their citizens in the Southeast is morally difficult even for pravoseki, except for the completely frostbitten, in the Russians - who will also come in tanks - there will be much less moral barriers.

[Roman 57 rus]

Well, yes, I agree, one of the promises to go and shoot the British for me may be the fact that they warmed Gorbachev (damn him!)

[Slon1978]

I also think that we have already received our pie - Crimea, and this should be stopped. Tymoshenko and Co. have already gone down in history as losers who allowed the loss of part of their country and this will be with them until their death. But now we need to stop and continue to work only with soft power - to press economically and also, as an option, arm the Southeast, but not enter the army.

[Validator]

Quote: Slon1978

I also think that we have already received our pie - Crimea, and this should be stopped. Tymoshenko and Co. have already gone down in history as losers who allowed the loss of part of their country and this will be with them until their death. But now we need to stop and continue to work only with soft power - to press economically and also, as an option, arm the Southeast, but not enter the army.

A pie, of course, is good. But the situation is developing beyond our desires. And judging by the dynamics of events and the collapse of the Ukrainian economy, we still have to intervene. The main thing here is to choose the right moment, as was done in Crimea

[Slon1978]

Unfortunately, the scenario of such an operation, in which its end and a positive outcome for Russia would be clearly visible, to date, IMHO, and we do not have the initiative, we are now "being led" according to the situation, using what we signed under the protection of the Crimean population from nationalist threat and proclaimed a similar pro South-East. Here are the options visible to me (I wrote in another thread):
1. If the junta begins to bomb the population of the South-East or to use the army on it in full scale, like Saakashvili’s actions, then we can and must inflict a quick defeat on their army units, withdraw troops from the territory, but not far and start a second dialogue on a political settlement. This is a beautiful option - we are peacekeepers, losses are minimal, the operation is very compact. But this will not happen, the United States advises the junta and they make such a mistake - they use special units - there will not be mass casualties.
2. We could let the situation ripen economically - turn off the gas, demand debts. After all, Europe and the United States are not eager to finance the economy of Ukraine, if there is no our military intervention, the junta will be forced to deal with internal issues and very soon they will start to eat each other - 1-2 years and the situation in Ukraine can change dramatically. But we are not allowed to deal with the economic decision - they openly provoke us to a military operation, without losing our face, we cannot withdraw our troops now.
3. If the junta uses special forces, can it respond - to arm the South-East? For real - toss them shooters, grenade launchers, MANPADS. Omega, with the Jaguar and the Right Sector, they will start to rake - they will be forced to connect the troops and we will be able to enter and break them according to option 1. But this option is quite unpredictable, besides, it is not clear who our weapons will get, you do not think that the militias of the South-East will it be returned to us later? It may well then begin to "emerge" in central Russia, Chechnya ....
4. To introduce a limited peacekeeping contingent to the Donetsk and Lugansk regions — to block roads from Ukrainian army units (but it should be understood - not from special forces and law enforcement officers that can leak out). Next, arm the militias, transform them into police - so that they themselves can fight against saboteurs. Yes is an option. But what does he give us? We are still raking from the whole world as invaders of part of the Ukrainian land, we are giving the junta a wonderful reason to continue to work in the occupation regime on the part of Russia, which means that they can no longer be removed economically through internal disassemblies - the state of emergency is in effect, you can talk about gas debts forget, gas supplies to Europe can also be under attack, this option also does not have a clear positive outcome for us. In addition, you will probably have to economically maintain the Southeast without attaching it. In this case, it might be better to think simply about creating preferential conditions for the resettlement of the Slavic population of the Southeast to us in Russia, at least we will receive human capital in the conditions of the demographic crisis.

[Lunic]

And I have just the opposite: Mother (73 years old) in Donetsk is indignant at the Russians and believes that they have nothing to do there. The niece and her friends (30+ years) support the DPR .. here and figure it out. The most interesting thing is that everyone continues to work as if nothing had happened. There is no time to hold a meeting, prices are rising and families need to be fed.

[W1950]

Crimea never considered itself a part of Ukraine, even during the Soviet era. Kharkov is a city of white-collar workers, so I doubt very much that there will even be 50 to 50. Dnipropetrovsk will surrender Russia, definitely. Nikolai made a little speech and silence. Kherson is generally silent. And where is the guarantee that there will be flowers, not a knife in the back?

[vlum]

You still say that no one acts in Mariupol, yeah.

If you personally do not have information about something, then this does not mean that nothing is happening there at all ... Or that the results of the referendum, provided it is held, of course, will turn out to be somehow unexpected for Russia.

[W1950]

Then tell us how 20-30 fighters of the right sector were able to disperse the defenders two days ago? So, not everything is so simple in Mariupol.

[vlum]

In the building of the City Council there were just 20-30 people at night, and the time on the clock was 3 or 4 in the morning, I don’t remember exactly. Secondly, the PS was not 20-30, but about a hundred.

And if you talk like that, then in 3-4 nights you can seize any office building and with a special mood, with clubs in their hands, a certain number of citizens otdubat.
Those. such a normal policy is to approach with clubs, for example, and to reject those who disagree. Moreover, this squad of law-enforcement officers does not live in Mariupol.

[W1950]

The fact that there were 20 people from the Right Sector was reported by the defenders of the City Council to the Russian correspondent of Vesti 24. For what I bought, for what I sell.

[Validator]

Quote: W1950

Then tell us how 20-30 fighters of the right sector were able to disperse the defenders two days ago? So, not everything is so simple in Mariupol.

There is no armed militia in Mariupol. The building of the RSA was guarded by only 6 people, they did not expect an attack. But the city is mainly beyond the DPR

[Homo]

Quote: Oleg147741

I do not think that your words reflect reality.

What is there to argue? Look at what percentage of the population in the Donetsk region is rallying and everything will become clear!

[Spnsr]

[quote = Oleg147741] [quote = svp67] the mood of the population of Ukraine over the past 20 years has changed dramatically and it’s IMPOSSIBLE not to notice it ... [/ quote]
I do not think that your words reflect reality. I have relatives in Ukraine, and turn for Russia, in Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk region. 80 percent, as in the Crimea, in the west, yes, and even then their eyes also open. So I can assume that your opinion is a product of fooling our liberals and their press. What is now impossible is another matter, but this pause is needed so that people would open their eyes in the same western Ukraine. And to prepare public opinion in Europe and the United States. When there was no choice and troops were brought into South Ossetia, I had to wash myself for a long time, now while I have the patience and there is an opportunity to reconfigure the west and advance OUR ideology, which is very close to the patriotic forces in the same west and in the USA. It is precisely our ideology that the hegemon is most afraid of. [/ Quote]
[quote = Oleg147741] [quote = svp67] the mood of the population of Ukraine over the past 20 years has changed dramatically and it’s IMPOSSIBLE not to notice it ... [/ quote]
I do not think that your words reflect reality. I have relatives in Ukraine, and turn for Russia, in Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk region. 80 percent, as in the Crimea, in the west, yes, and even then their eyes also open. So I can assume that your opinion is a product of fooling our liberals and their press. What is now impossible is another matter, but this pause is needed so that people would open their eyes in the same western Ukraine. And to prepare public opinion in Europe and the United States. When there was no choice and troops were brought into South Ossetia, I had to wash myself for a long time, now while I have the patience and there is an opportunity to reconfigure the west and advance OUR ideology, which is very close to the patriotic forces in the same west and in the USA. It is precisely our ideology that the hegemon is most afraid of. [/ Quote]
a critical phrase, now it’s impossible, this is another matter, but this pause is needed so that people would open their eyes in the same western Ukraine. And to prepare public opinion in Europe and the United States. When there was no choice and troops were brought into South Ossetia, I had to wash myself for a long time, now while I have the patience and there is an opportunity to reconfigure the west and advance OUR ideology, which is very close to the patriotic forces in the same west and in the USA. It is precisely our ideology that the hegemon is most afraid of. [/ Quote]
need to withstand it!
withstand when the withdrawal passes, and it will be. and then you don’t have to enter the troops, humanitarian aid can defeat the junta

[zbidnev]

Yes, I agree with you. If it were economic assistance, cooperation, and not all kinds of trade wars - the southeast and not only in a year, I would ask for two myself, so how would we really feel a kinship. After the Crimea, we will fight with you, we are on our land and we will figure it out here ourselves. This is not Georgia and Chechnya do not meddle with us. We are no longer brothers and our relations with you are not friendly.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Such bitch and seized power in Kiev .. You think you can agree with them ..?

[Darek]

Excuse me, but is it possible not "political", but just a corpse?
In my opinion, it would be somehow more natural.

[svp67]

Quote: zbidnev

After the Crimea, we will fight with you, we are on our land and we will figure it out here ourselves. This is not Georgia and Chechnya do not meddle with us. We are no longer brothers and our relations with you are not friendly.

Let's do this - less emotion. Even in families, it happens when siblings quarrel in blood, often over trifles, but it also happens for important reasons, but this does not cancel their relationship. So, just as you were our relatives, you remain so. Now there is a lot of "scum" and the best doctor from this is TIME. I know that not everything, but a lot will return "to square one" ... And we must not forget that we have ONE blood ... we are the same as you. And sooner or later, the "voice of blood" will say its weighty word.
And I don’t agree to Georgia’s account, our troops didn’t come from the good life to the territory of Abkhazia and Ossetia either. We are not going to capture anyone. First of all, we ourselves need PEACE on our borders in order to do our usual business ...

[mamont5]

Quote: zbidnev

After the Crimea, we will fight with you, we are on our land and we will figure it out here.

This is the result of 23-year-old propaganda. So start fighting. If you can. Just do not forget to take an oath of allegiance to your gangster government and their masters from the United States before the battle. They will appreciate. And so far, all mercenaries have to be used.
"The Kiev junta sent mercenaries into battle
The Slavs were stormed by the Croats, and the Americans commanded.

The Kiev junta (the term was coined by Vladimir Putin yesterday) pushed the attack on the Slavyansk block posts by US Vice President John Biden.
“You Have a chance. Do it! ”(“ You have one chance. Do it! ”) - he said goodbye to Turchinov and Co. when saying goodbye at the airport.
The same thing happened after the visit to Kiev by CIA Director John Brennan. After deceiving Russian tanks, the de facto leaders of the Kiev authorities, after talking with overseas visitors, despair about the next attack on the rebel cities of Novorossia, stumble on barricades of militias, kill several civilians and roll back to lick their wounds and demand the immediate withdrawal of Russian troops from the Ukrainian borders.
This time, however, everything was much more emotional.
After the live broadcast with Putin, where he called the junta the junta, after Lavrov’s tough statements and the start of the next “exercises” of the Russian troops on the Ukrainian border, they called and “screamed” from Kiev to Moscow, according to our sources: “Already, no one Going nowhere, stop! ”

The Russian expert community was surprised: “Strange people. “They could have understood for a long time that if Sergey Viktorovich makes a statement in English, then it’s not worth checking whether he jokes or not.”
Neither Lavrov, nor Shoigu, let alone Putin, were joking. If Kiev's “anti-terrorist operation” in Slavyansk had not been stopped, Russian troops would have crossed the Ukrainian border. And in a few days the leaders of the junta would have already given confessions. "
http://nvdaily.ru/info/24833.html

[Patriot.ru.]

In this article there is a phrase "The United States won victory in all the wars that they waged, and they will be scalped from us."

It smells of rotten.

[ussrex]

Yeah, in everyone! Let the pocket hold wider! Maybe they forgot how they fled from Saigon? And how did they sow their nose in Somalia? Forgetful, damn it! Recall!

[pensioner]

Put a plus for decisiveness- .

Quote: zbidnev

we will fight with you

-when you go to fight - prosemafor. I’m not too lazy, I’m going to church and put a candle behind the repose of the servant of God, hiding behind the nickname zbidnev

[zbidnev]

I don’t really need your pluses, nor candles. It’s not shameful to die for one’s Motherland, and it was an honor among all nations. And for whom will your soldiers and officers die and kill? For a mythical empire? For the USSR? or for someone’s ambition? And this is a shame.

[svp67]

Quote: zbidnev

or for someone’s ambition?

But the trouble is that all your victims and the "Heavenly Hundred" and "Fallen Golden Eagles" and many others are the result of AMBITIONS ... What has SPECIFICALLY changed for you? Overthrew ONE handful of thieves, so that others would climb over your bodies to the top of power? And is this a FAIR BOTTOM?

[zbidnev]

And you offer us your thieves, thanks no!

[avs1208]

No one will ask for beekeeping victims.

[zbidnev]

The only thing you can do is to insult your opponent. Yes, a bunch of bravado. I don’t know the story well, usually they rake it to the fullest, the enemy must be respected and studied, and if necessary it is necessary to learn from him. And with such approaches you will not have a case.

[avs1208]

Will not be - we'll see.

[tanit]

Golden words about to study the enemy. Are you sure that his opponent has not yet been studied and analyzed? And they came to the conclusion - what respect for his opponent - for no reason? But to insult - well, this site is not the site of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, not the site of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, there are ordinary people with ordinary emotions. And when they are offended, they react accordingly.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: zbidnev

The only thing you can do is to insult your opponent. Yes, a bunch of bravado. I don’t know the story well, usually they rake it to the fullest, the enemy must be respected and studied, and if necessary it is necessary to learn from him. And with such approaches you will not have a case.

I understand you very well! Anyone visiting your place on the Maidan would say the same, or at least bolshenstov. Here, too, we have the concept of intolerance, and this is also a product of brainwashing through our TV. We just need to stop all of us, count to 10 and look at the world with different eyes, our own, and not those that the media "designed" for us. You +

[papik09]

Apparently you kid taught history already on the "corrected" textbooks, if you allow the hay to carry such nonsense?

[zbidnev]

Raising bees is not such a bad thing, maybe a victim, and whose victims are you?

[avs1208]

Victims of common sense.

[svp67]

Quote: zbidnev

And you offer us your thieves, thanks no!

God forbid ... Live with yours. But do not blame us for this. Your thieves, and your choice ... We have nothing to do with it. Only people should not be killed for this ...

[Validator]

Quote: zbidnev

And you offer us your thieves, thanks no!

You can install any political system at home. Any way to fight corruption, we will only wish you success in this. But when you start to build the state of the Ukrainian nation within the borders that you accidentally got in a country where half - Russians - I'm sorry. We will protect our own.

[papik09]

Apparently this body climbed out of a known place (well, you know the name of the organ) after the USSR collapsed. That is, this is the generation that we just lost. That is why IT allows itself to write this here. It can be seen that the boy in other people's hands has never once been an obb.s.r.r.a.l.s.s. And it’s necessary, with such a worldview

[Roman 57 rus]

You are a victim of American propaganda. I am truly sorry for you.

[Gradus HuK]

It’s time for you to collect things and return to your native land.

[pensioner]

Quote: zbidnev

I don’t really need your pluses, nor candles.

Is there a candle factory? Well, call tady ...
In general, put it yourself ...

[zbidnev]

There is no factory, I am a simple security officer, by the way, who stood on the Maidan too. Everything was there - I defended there in full. The only thing I understood is that Yanukovych is great and powerful, by the way which you are hiding - a complete, coward and bandit. Betraying us all and the people too. And here in Ukraine we will figure it out, do not meddle and you will be happy.

[Roman1970]

Understand that no one climbs to you, no one wants evil. You write now, as I understand it, on emotions. Just think calmly, chat with people on the forum. Maybe your attitude to what is happening will change. I wish you happiness and health.

[zbidnev]

Thanks for your kind words!!! Six months ago, I had a different opinion and completely different moods. I really respected and was proud of our eastern neighbor. But on the forums, here I was faced with manifestations of great intolerance towards other nations (Ukrainians, Bulbashs, etc.). This indicates a disease of society, aggression towards others. People are different, different thoughts and ideas - all this moves civilization forward. You have a great culture and history, but now what is happening is just awful.

[avs1208]

Nation (tribe, people) - explain, a connoisseur of history this transformation, Kievan Rus - Ukraine, respectively, how did the Russian people become Ukrainian?

[zbidnev]

Questions of the nation, tribe and people - well, can you clearly define these concepts? Kievan Rus was a very long time, and does not affect today. Unless paper, because we do not know exactly what happened then. I won’t talk about transformation because I don’t know and nobody knows, I’m sure of that. This is the speculation of politicized historians. Khosh is a great Russia, if you want Belarus, okay, I won’t talk about Ukraine so as not to annoy. Well, another person came for example from the Pole, and I do not care if only the person was good.

[avs1208]

"Nation (from Lat. Natio - tribe, people) - socio-economic, cultural, political and spiritual community of the industrial era"
Clearly?) Marichka carrion on 1 + 1 also does not know much)

[zbidnev]

How many nations are there in Russia? Marichka is a pretty woman with her looks. Now let's uncover the concept of socio-economic. The main economic powers of the south east are working for the local oligarchy, which brought the population to a social crisis. Cultural and political, Russian-Ukrainian culture, or vice versa, with no one infringing on the language, it rises so much in elections or when federalization is required. The spiritual component was, unfortunately, stolen-drunk-in prison, because there is a high degree of criminalization, because no job. Ideal space to organize riots. Now the question is what do the southeast want in your opinion?

[avs1208]

One is the Russian people. We Russians want this Euro Catholic circus to move home and take the filaret with it. And Marichka is so an amateur)

[ANDI]

wants to live normally

[Validator]

Quote: zbidnev

Questions of the nation, tribe and people - well, can you clearly define these concepts?

Read, for example, Gumilyov's "Ethnogenesis". Everything is very popular there.

[Darek]

I carefully read your comments. Well...
You either really udak ... Oh, sorry, I had to have a capital "M".
Or ... Uhhhhh ... The same thing, only with a small letter.

Kievan Rus was a very long time? Well? So what?
And Christ was even more ancient. And the ten commandments are very long ago. What? Also not relevant and do not affect today?
This is from what positions should history be considered in order to begin to divide ONE triune people?

[Pavel Sinko]

A hard case. In such cases, I say that I lived in vain. It is sad to very much encounter a blank wall of misunderstanding and how to break it alone he knows.

[Roman 57 rus]

Elementary, books in the Ukrainian language of the 18th century do not exist !!!!! Think about why.

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: Roman 57 rus

Elementary, books in the Ukrainian language of the 18th century do not exist !!!!! Think about why.

A patamushta vicious m @ rocky hooted

[mamont5]

Quote: zbidnev

Six months ago, I had a different opinion and completely different moods. I really respected and was proud of our eastern neighbor. But on the forums, here I was faced with manifestations of great intolerance towards other nations (Ukrainians, Bulbashs, etc.).

You know, a couple of months ago I also had a completely different attitude towards the Ukrainians. But after such communication with representatives of the Ukrainian people, I drank so much dirt. Moreover, just trying to understand and convey their point of view.
You say: "Do not meddle on our land, we will figure it out ourselves." Good and humanly understandable. But ... what about those residents of the South-East of Ukraine who rose up against the Kiev junta and are now dying for it. Leave them to slaughter? It's good if they can defend their land on their own, but if not. No one here is eager to start a massacre, but what to do if your so-called "government" nevertheless decides on a lot of blood. Answer please. And another question. Where are you now? Which side?

[zbidnev]

My question is what would the security forces do in Russia if someone seized buildings with weapons? He created roadblocks, there are also people who are not with batons. He attacked intelligence officers and shot them, although they did not fire a single shot and they did not kill a single person. And the southeast is a consequence of the previous government, which really wants to stay at the helm, and rob these people further. We surrendered the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs without a single shot, no one was hurt, except that the head of the regional department was severely beaten in Gorlovka. Who killed our officer, a guy 16 years old still a child, etc. They seize journalists, cut deputies and students. Of course it’s zombies for us, only guys I don’t understand who are zombies?

[avs1208]

"I have a question, what would the security forces in Russia do if someone seized buildings with weapons? I set up checkpoints, there are also no people with batons. He attacked the intelligence officers and shot them, although they did not fire a single shot, and not a single person not killed. "

Kiev, winter 2014

[Nikoha.2010]

Quote: avs1208

"I have a question, what would the security forces in Russia do if someone seized buildings with weapons? I set up checkpoints, there are also no people with batons. He attacked the intelligence officers and shot them, although they did not fire a single shot, and not a single person not killed. "

Kiev, winter 2014

We had no people exciting school in Beslan, Nord-Ost and the like. These are not people !!! You suk do not compare h.p. with tram handle! You country pro.s.r.ali stupidly, and on the side are looking for the guilty! You PEOPLE are not terrorists (Basaevs, Gilaevs and other evil spirits), I understand that your brainwashed completely and it is useless to argue with you! And count me, I’ll walk down the street and scream Ho.h.l.o.v. on the knives. Sounds stupid, but you can! Neh, are you to blame, do you have a grain of brains? It is necessary to wet the terrorists and your fascists, but for lawlessness with your people they will ask you and oh how they ask!

[zbidnev]

Well, where did they kill at least one Russian without weapons in Ukraine, only a specific fact? Who bombed houses before the war in Chechnya? Who hit the cities with artillery? There were not only militants. People and history will ask only with whom?

[Pavel Sinko]

We won’t impose this filth and abomination on us for a long time. We already figured out everything and we know who was behind all the mucks of the 80s and 90s. And the zero brainwashing didn’t work with us. and stop dying like that. It happens.

[avs1208]

I don’t sit in Eurosleds) The reproach is not addressed!

[Roman1970]

There is no intolerance towards other nations ... And there is no aggression either. Aggression, unfortunately, is present in Kiev, moreover, in relation to its people. Ukraine is a beautiful country! That's just the Nazis in power - this is what I still hardly imagine. In general, you are not lucky with the rulers, some come across ... But you yourself chose them ... Take, at least Belarus. Old Man of theirs, of course, the figure is ambiguous, but brought order to the country - be healthy! You feel such a good attitude towards Russians, as in Belarus, except in Serbia. That is, when I come to rest in Serbia or Belarus, I personally feel at home. I repeat, no one climbs to you. So put things in order in your own country!

[zbidnev]

My question is who are the Nazis. Is there a clear wording. And then on the forum all around remember this, but I can’t understand what it is?

[Cynic]

You don’t have a mirror at hand?

[Roman 57 rus]

Any person who puts himself above others on the basis of nationality.

[Validator]

Quote: zbidnev

Thanks for your kind words!!! Six months ago, I had a different opinion and completely different moods. I really respected and was proud of our eastern neighbor. But on the forums, here I was faced with manifestations of great intolerance towards other nations (Ukrainians, Bulbashs, etc.). This indicates a disease of society, aggression towards others. People are different, different thoughts and ideas - all this moves civilization forward. You have a great culture and history, but now what is happening is just awful.

Dear, this is where here the Ukrainians were insulted as a nation? Here for such a ban instantly, and no normal Russian has such hatred. You don’t come to the censor, that’s where the nationalist trash is, I’m a Nazi face, and I sincerely hate it. And we are friends with the Ukrainians and do not confuse them with Bandera

[Roman 57 rus]

They confirm the censor. No, at first I thought that this was generally a mental hospital with access to the Internet.

[Grbear]

zbidnev- in fact, the nickname is not the best association, but not about that.

But on the forums, here I was faced with manifestations of great intolerance towards other nations (Ukrainians, Bulbashs, etc.). This indicates a disease of society, aggression towards others.

As a security official, you should have been taught that in the form of manifestation of emotions there are signs of the bearer of these emotions. So, brevity is not always a sister, but a sign of laziness or an indicator of vocabulary. Expressiveness or aggression is a sign of an unsettled psyche. So, filter the information (look at the profile of the "activist").

And don't "... just awful," - there are ups and downs ... and conclusions.

[ussrex]

Damn, dear, what is going on here is just a shadow of that shit that the media in the Square pour on everything related to Russia. And before poking pvltsom - "What did you call me!", Take a look at the blue screens in your state!

[krpmlws]

zbidnev, I read some of your comments, for the sake of live contact with a person from there. Your position is typically nationalist-fascist, maintained strictly in the classical Goebelsian style: cynicism, lies and slander powdery moralization. Your pearls, for example, about Russian intolerance towards other nations, are simply ridiculous Shouting, hold the thief, it’s a usual thing for the thief, as for you it’s a typical propaganda trick of the nationalist. You believe that you will find naive people here on the forum who will follow your lies — you are mistaken, look for another platform to pour out your bile, There are plenty of sites suitable for this. Here, apart from the minuses and laughter at your comments, you will not wait for anything.

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: zbidnev

But on the forums, here I was faced with manifestations of great intolerance towards other nations (Ukrainians, Bulbashs, etc.).

An exiled Cossack girl? Give an example of who on the site "is intolerant of other nations?" And even more so to Belarusians and Ukrainians? (Real, not Bendera). You can go bile as much as you want, but fortunately, in the southeast, such a minority. I noticed that your tonality changed a lot after the loss of Crimea. Agree that he has never been Ukrainian and, I am sure, will never be. When you grow up and understand that we have NOTHING to share, and Crimea and New Russia are ours and yours, that we are one whole, then YOU WILL BE HAPPINESS!

[vlum]

Do not forget that your "we will figure it out" should not end with a total 3.14 per half of Europe. Starting with the notorious GTS and ending with nuclear power plants.

Yes, nobody wants to endure the construction of concentration camps and the launch of crematoriums in them either. They will also not be allowed to deploy NATO troops. Well, in everything else ... Understand. Nobody is going to take away the elections from you. And referenda.

[zbidnev]

Are there concentration camps anywhere in Europe? I’m Russian-speaking for 23 years of independence, I spoke this language and no one infringed me, I didn’t even make a comment. We would not have allowed NATO troops, until now. You really want this, then let's just build normal ones, want pragmatic or fraternal ones. And then download along the borders, maneuver. What for?

[vlum]

Okay, lie. Both NATO emissaries and mercenaries for punitive detachments have already been let in.
They made a remark about the language, didn’t ... None of your traitors from BP pulled the tongue when they urgently started to rivet laws. Following the Bandera on the Maidan. However, language has nothing to do with it.

Concentration camps are being built under the humane names "for displaced persons" or something similar. If you do not know anything about this, then you can google by anti-Maidan groups and links to the video will be found.

[zbidnev]

You accuse me of lying. Referring to the Internet. My advice to you is to come and see what is happening on the spot. You can organize anything on the Internet. And also find in the net such a brochure - "methods and methods of propaganda" try to read it and not watch TV for a couple of days. Then watch any channel, or documentary of any production through the prism of the knowledge you received. In the world of propaganda, one must learn to think and fight against it.

[Pavel Sinko]

Yes, of course, as soon as the junta, the ban on Russian entry into Ukraine will be removed with joy.

[Validator]

Quote: zbidnev

Are there concentration camps anywhere in Europe? I’m Russian-speaking for 23 years of independence, I spoke this language and no one infringed me, I didn’t even make a comment.

But starting from this place I no longer believe my comrade. It is clear that no one will comment on you for speaking Russian. But when the state - MOV, you have to fill out all the official papers on the move, listen to an idiotic translation in the cinema about "the immeasurable man" and during the day dozens of times come across small, but annoying ukrainisms. As a result, 97 percent in Crimea is for Russia.

[AVIATOR36662]

The comrade made it clear from the first word that he was a simple provocateur from the Maidan. And everyone knows the history of the Maidan, even the fraudulent Westerners. Just as long as they are paid from the money that Ukraine does not pay Russia in all its debts. But everything comes to an end, he will soon come and their junta, which came to power on blood. Therefore, the West gives them money only for ice cream, because they know that they have absolutely no future. It will not be long for them to talk about and push the Pravosek people to the East, they pushed with Crimea. Now they are "loading" the miners so that they would pay for the destruction of the center of Kiev with these kind Nazis. Just class! The cynicism is unsurpassed. All Russians from 16 to 60 years old are afraid. Even women correspondents and journalists are afraid. And as they are afraid of their SE, they even threw heavy equipment there, only the army will not fight with its people, and such wise men-pravosek in the end " in bast shoes ".

[papik09]

about "kashchik immeasurable".
Oleg, I dare to correct you:
Kashchei the Immortal - Kashchik the Unwavering;
condom - humming natsyutsurnyk,
and so on in the same vein, for example, a helicopter is a helicopter (it would be more correct to say a helicopter). In general, you are right. I put a plus

[Darek]

Quote: zbidnev

We would not have allowed NATO troops, until now.

And now do not let it go. Just sit down. By the way, not only you, but they too.

Quote: zbidnev

And then download along the borders, maneuver. What for?

Just. And what? Fearfully?

[svp67]

Quote: zbidnev

And then download along the borders, maneuver. What for?

Or maybe it's better to ask the question WHY? And I will answer you, by the fact that your crowds will JUMP with a yell: "He who does not jump, he ...." and "M ..... to gilyaku" ... That's why we maneuver so that you there they knew that it was not for our soul ... In general, the troops are ours, the land is ours, so where we want, we maneuver there

[Roman 57 rus]

Then, to the words of the current politicians of Ukraine in relation to what they will do with the residents of the southeast of Ukraine, God forbid, not come true.

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: zbidnev

And then download along the borders, maneuver. What for?

So far, only formatted youth jumps with your Natsik. Download further, we have already rode away from Crimea ...

[Spnsr]

Quote: zbidnev

Are there concentration camps anywhere in Europe? I’m Russian-speaking for 23 years of independence, I spoke this language and no one infringed me, I didn’t even make a comment. We would not have allowed NATO troops, until now. You really want this, then let's just build normal ones, want pragmatic or fraternal ones. And then download along the borders, maneuver. What for?

you are Russian, speak Russian, and I hope you understand Russian well, it was said in Russian, our territory is where we want and we go for a walk!
and yet, when they stop paying you, how do you stock it? I'm sure you will go against the junta! look that it was not too late! ...

[ANDI]

"We would not have let NATO troops in until now."
- Who are "we? Your left hand does not know what the right is doing. You still think that Russia is sleeping and sees how to tidy up Ukraine ... We have everything and Ukraine is just a fraternal country for us

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: zbidnev

I'm a simple security officer

You're lying banderlozhik! As well as the fact that you know the story!
Although no! What a banderlozhik! This is clearly the Crimean woman and the officer!
Go peck!

[zbidnev]

Do you get the stars or the pros for the dirt and insults you write? Then your advantages are well-deserved!

[lelikas]

Quote: zbidnev

, I am a simple security officer, by the way, who stood on the Maidan, too.

Because of the fact that they stood - now everything is so * left - it was necessary to act.
If you really want to blame us all - change the letter d to r in nickname - everything will immediately fall into place.

[zbidnev]

Do you know what an order is? If not, read civilopedia.

[lelikas]

Oh yes, I know, and I’m also interested - when your fascists came to power - whose order did you continue and continue to carry out?
I'm afraid that before you shoot at us - you have to shoot at your own in plenty - here you can’t dump anything on Yanyk - again, we will remain to blame.

[avia1991]

Quote: zbidnev

Do you know what an order is?

If what you have written up to now, it was still possible to understand - not to accept, but to understand - then you are good. There are enough people here who know what an order is. And they also know what an oath is, and an officer's honor! Your attack is all the more ridiculous, because you are just violating the Oath of allegiance to the people of Ukraine, carrying out the orders of the CRIMINALS who seized power in a criminal way. Thus, you automatically become an accomplice of criminals, and in fact, nothing better than them. And statements like "you can organize anything on the Internet" are a convenient excuse, nothing more. Since we are also able to receive information about the real state of affairs "first-hand", having friends and acquaintances in Ukraine. My friend's sister came with children from Donetsk, fleeing from the SS militants who secretly terrorize peaceful people in the evenings at night! SILOVIKI, WHERE ARE YOU ?! Ouch! .. You are not there! You have no time to protect peaceful people. You cave in under the Nazis, ready to destroy the unarmed themselves just because they think differently from Kiev!

[Roman 57 rus]

There is still an oath directly prohibiting the army from fighting with its people!

[Spnsr]

Quote: zbidnev

Do you know what an order is? If not, read civilopedia.

but what, in order to find out what an order is, do you need to read civilopedia? you obviously don’t know yourself what an order is, if you study this concept by definition in civilopedia, it once again says that you are not a security official

[sv68]

Zbidnev that you cannot even be called a person for such an entity. We will have happiness when people like you stop wandering about their rights to people and impose their worldview — try to think whether you can live on your own but honestly without stealing gas without blackmailing entry and weight, I’m sure that no

[zbidnev]

Oh, I’m no longer human. Yes, the guys survived, so this is not for me, as I understand it, I have already been retrained to the class below. That is, class 1 - consonants, class 2 is not very, class 3 is not quite and the caste of the humiliated and oppressed - dissenting, at the animal level. And honestly, I didn’t steal gas, I didn’t want to the EU, I doubted the CU, so I’m not to blame for this.

[Cynic]

Quote: zbidnev

Oh, I’m no longer human.

No, you are just HOMO.
Yes -
zbidnev , your nickname _ or with the fantasy of the wrong one, or in front of the chef once again ...

[Darek]

Quote: zbidnev

Oh, I’m no longer human.

Cho really ???

Quote: zbidnev

That is, class 1 - consonants, class 2 is not very, class 3 is not quite and the caste of the humiliated and oppressed - dissenting, at the animal level.

Do not insult animals! M.U.D.A.K.I. will be even lower class. And you are a bright representative of the breed.

Quote: zbidnev

And honestly, I didn’t steal gas, I didn’t want to go to the EU

Yes, and you do not need. All done for you. And stole, and wanted.

[Pavel Sinko]

Almost everything is true, but there is no need to doubt it and then everything will be fine. The main faith is not to lose so that it doesn’t happen. I don’t argue that Russia has many ill-wishers and our path is thorny but no one promised our righteous that it will be easy on this path all life is a struggle. There is no doubt to believe and only to believe on the path to the front. Only so is a friend.

[Damn]

write more zbidnev, hunting to see three funny Rogers on uniform

[Cynic]

Quote: sv68

zbidnev what kind of entity are you

Sorry, but you are mishandling _ zbiГnot necessary.

[Spnsr]

Quote: zbidnev

There is no factory, I am a simple security officer, by the way, who stood on the Maidan too. Everything was there - I defended there in full. The only thing I understood is that Yanukovych is great and powerful, by the way which you are hiding - a complete, coward and bandit. Betraying us all and the people too. And here in Ukraine we will figure it out, do not meddle and you will be happy.

where, where were you standing? boy yes you are cool! only you have a mentality of a youngster. I won’t argue about Yanukovych’s account, but I’ll just say, or maybe he just didn’t dare to use force against his citizens. would you dare or are you one of those who kill civilians in eastern Ukraine?

[ANDI]

Yanek, of course, was a bad guy, but you do not understand it yourself, but with the help of America and what it can bring to, we also imagine. We have our own interests, so sorry. Your consultants starting with the Crusades, the colonization of America, etc. Until today, Iran, Kosovo, are doing the same thing. So to pretend that you have everything under control is not worth it - no one believes !!!

[Simple]

Quote: zbidnev

It’s not shameful to die for your homeland

In your homeland, strangers are already bossing.
They will never be your brotherly people; this is not in their principles.
Remember, human blood is not voditsa!

[zbidnev]

I have not seen one. Unless a couple of times they came across people well-equipped in the Russian manner, well-armed, but they are not strangers, they are Russian special forces.

[avs1208]

It turns out the silovik is running once alive yet)

[zbidnev]

You also need to be able to run, and they run not only backwards but also forward.

[Simple]

Quote: zbidnev

I have not seen one. Unless a couple of times they came across people well-equipped in the Russian manner, well-armed, but they are not strangers, they are Russian special forces.

There are almost no states (nations) left in the world that have the right to independently choose a course.
Even Germany has no choice in this regard.
Want to join?
Money (and they still need to be earned in Ukraine or what remains of it.) - do not mean anything in terms of the right of freedom of the nation to self determination.

[Roman 57 rus]

Pay attention to his words THIS IS NOT ALIENS !!!!!!!

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: Simple

There are almost no states (nations) left in the world that have the right to independently choose a course.
Even Germany has no choice in this regard.
Want to join?

Ukraine has never been independent, do not tell.

[Roman 57 rus]

Well then ... to a vantage point over the past 23 years already three times independent !!!

[svp67]

Quote: zbidnev

I have not seen one. Unless a couple of times they came across people well-equipped in the Russian manner, well-armed, but they are not strangers, they are Russian special forces.

Well, did not see so look ...

Yes, as Kolomoisky had suggested earlier, there are many Croats in his "SS" ... there are data from people I trust, and on the video they are immediately given out with their "melodious" accent ...
And where is the photo or video of the "Russian special forces" in Ukraine or you, as your Minister of Foreign Affairs - Deshitsa, believe only in the "blogosphere" without proof ...
And how did you define a "Russian special forces" in an armed man? BY WHAT CRITERIA?

[lelikas]

Quote: zbidnev

I have not seen one. Unless a couple of times they came across people well-equipped in the Russian manner, well-armed, but they are not strangers, they are Russian special forces.

Special Forces already in Kiev? - not everyone tells us on TV !!!

[Alexred]

HERE YOU ARE FUNNY

[avia1991]

Quote: zbidnev

this is not strangers this is Russian special forces

And now you are pierced! Our special forces are not there. You are lying frankly - you are not a silovik - a pro-American "zaslanets"! If our special forces were there, you would have wiped the bloody snot! Do not think that in Russia for 23 years "experts" have forgotten how to fight.

[papik09]

"... in Russia for 23 years" specialists "have forgotten how to fight."
On the contrary, they even got good practice. Or I'm wrong? I also like it when our (Ukrainian) media report almost every day about the detention of Russian GRU officers. They just forget about what preparation they have and how many people will die during their detention. Yes, and have not yet shown a single one.

[Darek]

Quote: zbidnev

Unless a couple of times faced with well-equipped people in the Russian manner

Cool!
Equipped in the Russian manner people?
Phraseology nervously smokes in the hallway.

[Roman 57 rus]

Lies, outright lies on your part, I consider this a scornful attitude towards visitors to this site!

[NAVOI]

Under what will you fight?

[papik09]

Where is the photo from? The Ukrainian flag is CORRECT. Blue is water (it is below) yellow is the sun (above).

[sherman1506]

You didn't even fly out of the computer, "vodka"

[Validator]

Quote: zbidnev

I don’t really need your pluses, nor candles. It’s not shameful to die for one’s Motherland, and it was an honor among all nations. And for whom will your soldiers and officers die and kill? For a mythical empire? For the USSR? or for someone’s ambition? And this is a shame.

The brains of a friend were washed specifically. You, a fighter, saw your grandmother, who stopped the arm of the BMP? And she has been living in Ukraine for the past 23 years. And where is her homeland, for which she rushes under the BMP? We have one homeland, Russia. The border between Russia and the territory called Ukraine for the past few years is a historical misunderstanding.

[Spnsr]

Quote: zbidnev

I don’t really need your pluses, nor candles. It’s not shameful to die for one’s Motherland, and it was an honor among all nations. And for whom will your soldiers and officers die and kill? For a mythical empire? For the USSR? or for someone’s ambition? And this is a shame.

what a hot young man! have seen enough movies about the war? just imagine that it will not be a war, but a counter-terrorist operation. and this is completely different, not even next to it, as it is now near Slavyansk!
Yes, this is not about that. “You are not my brother to me,” but I have many friends who have relatives in Ukraine, and my father is from the Poltava region. but a brother like you should be flogged with rods and put on peas to read psalms, maybe the brain will become clear!

[sarov 69]

I have 7 relatives in Ukraine in Zaporozhye, that's for them, if anything, I will ask your overseas owners, who are now playing off us, only they will not let me in, I will have to talk with those whom I get to, that is, with the Bandera and other "Patriots".

[Blondy]

What is very inspiring - to die for pravosekov and Bandera, on whose hands the blood of tens of thousands of your grandfathers? 20 thousand burned in Khityn, 80 thousand carved in Volyn, slowly dying, children bolted with barbed wire to the decks along the roads. Well, come on, with such historical baggage against the grandchildren who remember their Russian and Ukrainian grandfathers who liberated Europe from Nazism

[Roman 57 rus]

Just to die not in vain, do you think our grandfathers laid their heads for the right-wingers to command Ukraine now?

[SHILO]

Quote: retired

I’m not too lazy, I’m going to church to put a candle behind the repose of the servant of God

Well, how did Yura throw an article? The next "Ukrainian trap" is the same work of my hands - directly opposite content

[pensioner]

And you, Kostya, I’m watching, even that ... Fruit ... I brought the old man into fornication ...

[SHILO]

Quote: retired

And you, Kostya, I’m watching, still that ... Fruit ...

I try to Yesterday I just read them - I think everything in VO is definitely their place. Thanks to the unknown moderator laid out.
And komenty, komenty Yura! Read out. One zbidnev what it costs

[pensioner]

Quote: SHILO

And komenty, komenty Yura! Read out. One zbidnev what it costs

You can’t eat popcorn!

[SHILO]

Quote: retired

You can’t eat popcorn!

Eh Yura, and what kind of popcorn am I preparing for films (sorry no licking smile ) - in homemade butter with sea salt. Real jam.

[pensioner]

I went to drown with envy ...

[zbidnev]

The content is the same. Still have to fight. But even there I didn’t understand what you would fight for? To succumb to the southeast, purely fraternally. Or put Janek on the throne, so they will kill him in a week. What do you want? No one offends Russians. So the interest is different.

[svp67]

Quote: zbidnev

But even there I didn’t understand what you would fight for?

Not at all, but for WHO. For people, for their right to live as they see fit, for the opportunity to speak their native language ... for LEGALITY, and not for the RIGHT OF STRONG ... If that tells you something.

[Spnsr]

Quote: SHILO

Quote: retired

I’m not too lazy, I’m going to church to put a candle behind the repose of the servant of God

Well, how did Yura throw an article? The next "Ukrainian trap" is the same work of my hands - directly opposite content

yes you are my friend, sadist, adnaka, it’s necessary to scoff at the consciousness of people!
but the most subtle thing in everything described, it is necessary that the people themselves rise. the whole subtlety is that it can be useful for Russia, not in terms of rebellion, but can lead to activity in social life without unnecessary revolutions. this is of course desirable, a lot depends on those who will be in power, but ... how Crimea influenced, it is true more in terms of patriotism, but who knows, maybe he will go through both the aligarchs and those in power

[avs1208]

Baby, Ukraine got drunk and sleeps drunk without panties turning his eyeglasses to Europe. And believe me, the nugglox will take advantage of this.

[philip]

My friend, it sounds beautiful, only I forgot to see UKRAINE IS RUSSIA.

[avs1208]

"we are on our land" -?!?. Your mushrooms and cones in the forest.

[zbidnev]

I see that you are from Ukraine - and where is your homeland or land?

[avs1208]

You were silent when the factories were stolen, you were silent when the army was destroyed, you were silent when metal was transported abroad for nothing, you were silent when they stole the NWP (the largest in terms of tonnage in the world). You kept silent all the time. In fact, my homeland of the USSR, I was born in Selendum, Buryatia. We moved to Nikopol when I was 6 years old, in 1987 - and believe me in the USSR, I was happy, we had a sports complex, I went to a children's camp every summer to relax, I had no problems with anything. Then I saw the collapse, I saw pipe hangers hanging up for years without getting salaries, I saw drug addicts dying from the shirk, I saw a fountain in the city center with croaking toads. Something like this) Well, and now what do you think, where is she, my Motherland?

[zbidnev]

I see that you were silent too. And my father is also a military man, I traveled around the union. And whoever plundered all this? Maybe the former party elite, crime emerged after the union, red directors, guilds, etc. trash. And you don’t remember who you supported in the RF elections. Where all this trash dumped and now barks. And here I am visited by thoughts, and who is our friend, and who is not very?

[avs1208]

What has passed is time to correct the mistakes. It turns out all Yanukovych stole? Kravchuk is not to blame, Kuchma is not to blame, is Julia Yushchenko all innocent? Pinchuk was not given to UTZ, Kolomoisk OGOK, YGOK, NZF, MGOK? Firtash VGMK, IGOK, Armenian Titan? I can continue for a long time. Putin has arranged everything?

[zbidnev]

It's not about Putin. It's about us. Everyone needs to rebuild themselves. If you are a soldier, serve with honor, if you are an officer, serve honestly, etc. Then both the country and the state will rebuild.

[Pavel Sinko]

I forgot the most important basis, you must be a person first of all, and then everything else will follow.

[sova8]

But there is one more big BUT how do you think why do you have a rowman here who hangs out now? Why is Bride sitting at the head of the table? Etc. Yes, everything is simple. Because Ukraine went on for a long time, the USA 5 billion dollars was invested in something, but ordinary people didn’t get it and only collapse and chaos went on ... Until there is such a leader throughout Ukraine that gets off this needle, what the United States planted it will be either revolution or war It’s good for them now .. And just like that, they won’t leave Ukraine without buns until they’re enough to assassinate and Russia ... it’s much more difficult ... now you would have to direct your forces against the US interference in your affairs you are much better than living under the USA at the moment, but the current government just can’t get off all your money, it’s not in Ukraine, and make conclusions, other Americans will buy others ,,, we must fight this ... build our own politics independent of the USA west ... And think with your own head, and so that from friendship with Russia Ukraine received more buns than from Europe will receive ,, it would be better if they raised Russophiles and everything would be better ,,, so you sit down and think about who needs in the West or in the USA the originality of Ukraine in fact? Who better to understand the Ukrainian? Russian or European?

[Spnsr]

Quote: zbidnev

It's not about Putin. It's about us. Everyone needs to rebuild themselves. If you are a soldier, serve with honor, if you are an officer, serve honestly, etc. Then both the country and the state will rebuild.

something like sanity! and what was heresy before?

[papik09]

Yeah he's the most As in the joke:
- Hto crap?
- Nevistka.
- That house is dumb ?!
- And there’s nothing to hang!

[SHOCK.]

Dear, big request, please change the flag. Let everyone see where you are from, do not be shy. Yes, and you could not live with such arguments in the Union, you are clearly not from there, you are a stranger.

[avia1991]

Quote: zbidnev

And you don’t remember who you supported in the RF elections.

Where are the Americans, the truth is! It turns out that they only thought that it was they who supported Yushchenko, they staged the Orange Revolution - in fact, it was Russia who arranged everything itself! .. I'll tell you so, .. "silovik", damn it: there is no need to find fault with the mirror when the mug curve! You yourself brought up your children, who are now jumping on the maydaun, screaming "Moscow.ley - for knives!" And no need to tell that everyone around is guilty, except you! Do you want to change the world? SO START WITH YOURSELF!

[Jungar]

Quote: zbidnev

We are no longer brothers and our relations with you are not friendly.

Well, you can't be cute by force. It's a pity! It is a pity that you fraternized too easily with Bandera. And for brotherhood with us you need "economic help", it already looks like "love for money." But why our people do not have the same problems with Belarusians that we have with you. No, we certainly argue, but cutting off brotherly ties, and even chopping them with poetry like you, and even for the sake of absolutely mentally alien Western people, is madness. Ukrainians! You will not have anyone closer to us than ANYONE and NEVER. If you don’t believe a Russian, then believe me, a non-Russian. The Russian people are today the most powerful and just force on earth, but why this should offend you, I don’t understand. You should be proud of such a relationship, and not humiliate it, cherish it and strengthen it, as the most valuable thing in this vile world. And Bandera, these ghouls and ghouls, we are fierce enemies, and if you are with them, it means against us. May it be so. And something tells me that when the order is heard and our soldiers enter your southeast, those who are going to fight with us "to death" will forget about their bravery, We have already gone through this.

[zbidnev]

Who are Bandera? I have not seen them. Where are they? I did not compose these verses, and I do not quote them here. And which brothers on the border are rattling weapons? And yes it’s brotherly, good kinship!

[avs1208]

Trident, UNA-UNSO, White hammer, Freedom, etc. Stalinists erected monuments to Bandera, Shukhevych, Konovalets?

[Jungar]

Quote: zbidnev

Who are Bandera? I have not seen them. Where are they?

Don Corleone in such cases said: "No, this person does not understand when they want to calmly deal with him." Maybe it's really easier to shoot? Damn, we need to learn from Putin and Lavrov self-control.

[zbidnev]

I'm shooting well. But I don’t want to shoot. And if there are no arguments, then it is better to remain silent.

[nicollider]

are you doing this from the couch? or under Slavic unarmed fire? and know how to push the tank down? Well, it’s not difficult there - one button. volunteer - and in Slavyansk crush the separatists. clean up, get an iron cross and oak branches. there will be something for grandchildren to tell

[papik09]

Son, many members of this forum (this is so, for information) shoot a little faster than you know how to think, and more precisely, take my word for it. And God forbid you let me get on the line ... You will be "game over" from the very first shot Silovik you h.r.e. Most likely you were a security official of the Maidan. I will believe it. Then all your posts on this forum become clear.

[Cynic]

Quote: papik09

Most likely you were a security official of the Maidan.

Otherwise, do not explain this insanity in the posts. Winner _ Yoshkin cat!

[Spnsr]

Quote: zbidnev

I'm shooting well. But I don’t want to shoot. And if there are no arguments, then it is better to remain silent.

yes you are stupid, ml I, you have already all argued, and about the Bandera, and about the Natsik in power ... all all

[nicollider]

who are the Bandera? - I think this is the mind, honor and conscience of our era. the best people. they must all be cast in gold. even during his lifetime. It's sarcasm if that. do you really think that people who communicate on this forum do not know the story? we are not censored. the contingent here is slightly different. If you have not seen them, take your head out of the zh.o.p. and look at YouTube using the keywords "right sector of the Maidan" or "Bandera's Ukraine", well, think for yourself. You can just watch any video from the Maidan. it is unlikely that there will be no Nazi symbols. everything is open. everything can be seen.

You know, after the statement of your politicians (Farion, Tymoshenko - this is what randomly comes to mind, also google to help you, look and find out) saber rattling is fraternal. This is the only thing that stops the Nazis from using, for example, hail installations, not for nothing they were dragged to Slavic.

Bandera is not relatives, do not dissemble.

[sova8]

But you’re lying about it already, from childhood you knew about the Bandera people and you live there and don’t know, probably just cover them, shortly the Bandera people are from Stepan Bandera. He fought with the Nazis against his own, whether it was a Ukrainian Pole Russian, he really wanted to later independence Ukraine, but the Germans tricked him and offered either we kill you or you stay alive but forget about Ukraine’s independence - you sold it and lived in comfort in Germany until you slammed it ... Well, so briefly ,,, and Seisam was encouraged and made a hero, having interpreted all the facts and history, he’s a fascist and a fascist in Africa ,,, well, about the fact that his portraits hung in vkiev ??? It says a lot about those people who have posted them and who, with quiet consent, allow groups such as the right sector and the like to exist, even if Ukraine is for one. but should not build a policy on Russophobia Nazism and Nazism and aggression towards Russia and the Russian sense ??? What for??? But this is understandable without the help of the United States and Zapadentsev were led ,,, or maybe the Ukrainians hated Russians all their lives, read our roots and we just didn’t know that, then forgive me, then we have to do this if we cannot control our hatred ,,,

[Roman 57 rus]

This we show you how modern military forces should look like, and you are there, "siloviki" are raiding checkpoints in order to seize food, medicines and charges for mobile phones, from citizens who just want to peacefully agree and not let radicals from the PS (s) come to them.

[jPilot]

Well, that's the characteristic zombie troll. Dear Russia, at the moment, the country that really supports you economically, your new gay government is waging trade wars, they forbid your factories to sell their products in Russia and buy products in Russia, they forbid you, and you only feel kinship when they give you something for free. And don’t take a mouth to Crimea; this is our historical territory, and returned to their homeland from the independent will of the people living there. If you want a geyropu, it’s not a question if you still grab it, go to Latvia, once a prosperous region in the USSR, now almost all of it works as a servant in Europe. And no one climbs to people like you, zapadentsev after being sold to the Poles as slaves forever became enemies, and those who consider us brothers we will not abandon in trouble. And as for the fight, it’s better not to try, do not be angry. Just read (it will be hard of course to accept everything behind the brain) history, only take books from at least the 80s and not the freshly written CIA dictated rubbish. Although what would I mean if there was a desire, and not foam at the mouth, I myself would have figured it out a long time ago.

[zbidnev]

All right, the one who does not think like you is a zombie troll is fine, it’s better to be a troll and think than not to think and be a general.

[nicollider]

very irresponsible statement. You know, if there is no argument, it’s better to remain silent

[VNP1958PVN]

If you have friendly relations with the inhabitants of Crimea, why do you deprive their ordinary peasants of water, i.e. life? You do not block oxygen-gas?

[zbidnev]

I am personally against it. You read. Now you need to ask the new authorities, they have assumed this responsibility.

[Roman 57 rus]

Against? And what doesn’t act. The worst thing you can do in any situation is to do nothing!

[SHILO]

Quote: zbidnev

Be it economic assistance, cooperation, and not all kinds of trade wars

Quote: zbidnev

We are no longer brothers and our relations with you are not friendly.

Something son you are completely confused.

[zbidnev]

I have a father and I did not get into your sons, I did not get confused, read carefully, maybe you will understand!

[SHILO]

Quote: zbidnev

I have a father and I didn’t stuff you as sons,

This is the turn of speech so my young friend is (the young friend is the same turn of speech ) And ... and save the Lord from the son of Svidomo pumped!

[Mihaylo Tishayshiy]

Quote: zbidnev

If it was economic assistance, cooperation, and not all kinds of trade wars - the southeast and not only in a year, I would ask two myself, so how would we really feel a kinship

Americans helped you with army solders, where are they? Your warriors leaving the captured checkpoint in Slavyansk got food there ... drunk. During the years of your independence, you received more than $ 100 billion at gas discounts alone, did you put them into business? Not enough help? My dear, but the face will not crack?

Quote: zbidnev

. After the Crimea, we will fight with you, we are on our land and we will figure it out here ourselves.

What is the problem with Crimea? The boar once gave it to you to play, you almost broke the toy, they took it from you. Are you personally unhappy? And I was unhappy when the Crimea was taken from us, so 1: 1. Will you figure it out? You have already been sorted out, the richest republic at the time of the collapse of the Union turned into European Somalia. And your land there, the same as mine - Russia!

Quote: zbidnev

We are no longer brothers and our relations with you are not friendly.

We are brothers, brothers. And on pi ... lina from your brother you will run into! Don't you like how you scream there? "Suitcase - Train Station - New York !!!" I don’t understand at all when they are embarrassed to spoil relations with the brotherly people. Adequate brothers will not be offended by us, while other brothers for some reason do not hesitate to insult us and spoil relations with us.

[zbidnev]

At the expense of dry packs - we have enough of our products. While there was fuss with the Crimea, we deployed our armed forces, and are constantly preparing them, we won time. And at the expense of threats, the Spartans once answered the Persians - come and try.

[bubalik]

zbidnev SU  Today, 18:36 ↑

At the expense of dry packs - we have enough of our products. While there was fuss with the Crimea, we deployed their armed forces, and are constantly preparing them, won the time.

,, nonsense are respected ,,,

Due to the acute shortage of funds, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine turned to its own population for help in equipping its special forces with "everything necessary for the effective performance of combat missions" - from "kevlar helmets and body armor" to "linen and personal hygiene products."

The Armed Forces of Ukraine can return military service, said the acting Minister of Defense Mikhail Koval, Interfax-Ukraine reports on Saturday, April 26.

"The army will be professional - this is the future of the Armed Forces. But so far the Armed Forces are not ready for this. Therefore, we may have to return 21-23-year-old guys for a while, and they will serve the state,"

[nicollider]

Well you are reading wrong. The Ukrainian army is the most equipped in the world. 6th generation fighters are in service and are turning into submarines and can fly to the moon in a few minutes. deployed several military bases on the moon. Soldiers wear reinforced armor with exoskeletons. well, etc.

and money was collected for excesses. Well, there to bring a regiment to a restaurant or to buy nishtyakov.

[Grbear]

zbidnevand his opponents.
I tried to express my opinion earlier (above), after reading the following posts I realized ...
One of the greats said: "Do not try to convince a person. He will understand everything himself ... When the time comes"

[avs1208]

So exclusively through the gut)

[Roman 57 rus]

I do not agree to the seven deeds of spiritual mercies: 1 By word and example, to turn the sinner off the wrong path 2 who does not lead him to teach truth and good 3 to give good and temporary good advice for the difficulty 4 to console the sad 5 not to give evil for evil 6 to forgive insults from the heart 7 to pray for ALL to God

[lelikas]

Quote: zbidnev

The Spartans once answered the Persians - come and try.

Watch the new blockbuster on the screens - 300 maydauntsev!
here are the real Spartans -

[nicollider]

crying. I read and cry. Spartans then who, let me ask? Miracle warriors diving products at block posts ???

but about the fact that there are enough products - I believe. sukpai amerikosovsky in online stores you sell. seen, seen.

probably your authorities require military assistance in order to push in the internet. since his weapons are enough :)

can you buy some more time? separate the Donetsk Republic? oh and turn around then - hold on. reach the Urals.

[avia1991]

Tovarisch started talking completely. In general, it is already clear who he is. Maybe a patriot - but not Ukraine. Even simply because a normal person would not listen to so much, and argue so patiently for more than one hour! "Silovik", you have nothing to do? There are many problems in your country! Take a break from the zombie Internet - put yourself in order. And then you have already begun to talk, passing off wishful thinking. It won't work HERE - wrong audience!

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: zbidnev

This is not Georgia and not Chechnya

That’s exactly the sucker! You are not Chechnya! You won’t even have to put yourself on your knees, and you will do the rest yourself, out of habit!
Geyropeets thy mother! IT still scares! Tsmo!
He is not Chechnya! Yes, you only from rumors about the approach of the battalion "Vostok" dung the entire territory and dissolve on it! With archaeologists then they will search for 20 generations and will not find!

[zbidnev]

That's it because of people like you that you will lose!

[nicollider]

Mon cher, we have not lost even once. Russia used to retreat, it used to lose the battle, everything was. but in the end she won. Russian = winner. Only the Crimean War comes to mind. but it’s not at all clear what happened.

and Dmitry is too emotional, but he does not lead. Everything will be a bunch. if we need to move the troops. if necessary - suppress svidorastov and pravosekov. do not worry.

are you watching your TV besides your TV? lead from the fields there, analyze those streams of crap that your propoganda puts into your head? checking the news?

[papik09]

The above applies to you snot

[sv68]

zbidnev-don’t speak on behalf of the whole ukroin, you simply do not have the right to do this. If you want to fight with us, please just stock up on a wooden makentosh, you will come in handy. What you called our side is our Russian land and the Russians, as you know, always come for their own. and about brotherhood, you yourself have become our enemies and ours

[zbidnev]

We do not want to fight with you - this is cultivated by you, carefully read the comments on the forum, you can understand.

[nicollider]

But Zbidnev is right - they do not want to fight with us. we have the strongest army on the planet right now. they want to fight the separatists who have 1 gun per 200 people.

[papik09]

Quote: nicollider

But Zbidnev is right - they do not want to fight with us.

Because they are afraid of FORCE ... Well, you are right, sir. They piss with boiling water when in the Rostov region any "body movements of the Russian Armed Forces begin

[sherman1506]

You are not in your own land
And on ours, which turned out to be a stranger because of betrayal, but we will still return everything

[zbidnev]

You master your taiga. Siberia and the Far East to cleanse the Chinese. And not to fight with us, but to be friends, you alone cannot pull China. Only with us, Kazakhs, Belarusians, and I do not exclude the same Europe. God is great China.

[Arberes]

Quote: zbidnev

And do not fight with us but be friends

You "friends" are bursting into the European Union and dream of NATO. Friends like you should go to the museum. Enough for us to tell our tales here, our "friend" is Galician. You there on the Maidan wanted to get rid of the thieves-oligarchs? Happened? The same thieves came to power and even came with Nazi ideas! Now you will have fun there, you will still remember Yanukovych with a kind word, after you release your guts to each other.
Glory to Ukraine!

[nicollider]

The Chinese settle in the Far East and Siberia. it really is. They marry Russian women, this also happens. only the 2nd generation is already Russian. :)
so you don’t have to pull it. and if you are talking about a military confrontation, then a country with nuclear weapons, those 10 million Chinese are not very scary.

Yes and no Ukrainians. they are also Russians speaking another dialect.
in St. Petersburg, for example, they say curb and loaf. but that does not make them a separate people!

[Anper]

Quote: zbidnev

I do not exclude the same Europe

Judging by the intensity and tirelessness zbidnevToday is a day off in gay clubs.

[papik09]

As an option, that's why he was released

[mark7]

Quote: zbidnev

We are no longer brothers and our relations with you are not friendly

Well, here you are, why then crawled to the site with your non-brothers?

[avia1991]

Quote: zbidnev

After the Crimea, we will fight with you, we are on our land and we will figure it out here ourselves.

Well, why did you "minus" the guy ?! You yourself understand that you are putting a minus just because the person's opinion turned out to be DIFFERENT from yours ?! Meanwhile, he did not say anything unexpected. In fact, there are many such sentiments in the southeast, and this will have to be reckoned with! This is THEIR HOUSE, NOT OURS! It's time to get rid of illusions, and stop climbing "into a strange monastery with your own charter"! They haven’t asked us for help yet, and we shouldn’t give a damn about the whole world (not about the United States). There is no political force yet that can declare that it speaks on behalf of the majority of the people of the Southwest.

[RONIN-HS]

we are on our own land and we will figure it out here ourselves. This is not Georgia and Chechnya do not meddle with us. We are no longer brothers and our relations with you are not friendly.
Zbig ... Wake up. Everyone just has NO time! The BOC is piling up the World Crisis and the redistribution of the Globe. With Russia, the Outskirts still have a chance to save at least part of the population.

[Kite]

Quote: zbidnev

Be it economic assistance, cooperation, and not all kinds of trade wars ....

-So you only know about trade wars (you probably mean the ban on Poroshenko’s chocolates with benzopyrene or re-export of Polish pork), but didn’t hear anything about economic assistance and cooperation ?! That's it! Help is when right in your pocket? Have you still not got acquainted with what you wanted to sign with the EU? Did they promise you a lot of help? And that, again, the president's face does not like the helpers? Why are the helpers not in a hurry with gifts, but only from far away beat the "battle drums"?
If your hero is Bandero-Shukhevych, then you are definitely not your brother to me ......

[abdrah]

Quote: zbidnev

Yes, I agree with you. If it were economic assistance, cooperation, and not all kinds of trade wars - the southeast and not only in a year, I would ask for two myself, so how would we really feel a kinship. After the Crimea, we will fight with you, we are on our land and we will figure it out here ourselves. This is not Georgia and Chechnya do not meddle with us. We are no longer brothers and our relations with you are not friendly.

Zbyshek, are you a Pole? or is it still Ukrainian? Was the censor day off and there was free time to mark feces on other resources? Get into your hohlosrach censor!

[Roman 57 rus]

Judging by your statements, you are 15 years old, no more ....

[papik09]

Andrei, why so much anger towards Russia? What did Russia do wrong to you? You have earned the minus, but I am merciful to those flawed like you, so I will not put it to you.

[svetlomor]

Quote: svp67

About 15 percent of the population is waiting for our army there, and then in the Southeastern regions, and 50% are ready to fight with it, and this is mainly YOUTH ..

And who conducted these polls and how can they be believed ?!

[svp67]

Quote: svetlomor

And who conducted these polls and how can they be believed ?!

It is clear that now no one will hold them there, this is personal opinion and impressions ... The annexation of Crimea, both our Victory and our Defeat ... After it, very many were offended by us ...

[svetlomor]

Quote: svp67

After him, many were offended by us ...

Yes, for God's sake, Russia is certainly a generous soul, but if every time they are afraid that someone will be offended, then let's do nothing at all, we will give Kaliningrad, the islands of Japan and much more, otherwise they will be offended.

[svp67]

Quote: svetlomor

Yes, for God's sake, Russia is certainly a generous soul, but if every time they are afraid that someone will be offended, then let's do nothing at all, we will give Kaliningrad, the islands of Japan and much more, otherwise they will be offended.

And I do not propose to give up our interests, I just want to WARN. That when our troops find themselves on the territory of Ukraine, not everyone will be happy about this and we must be prepared for the fact that not only flowers, but spitting and bullets will fly in our direction ...

[svetlomor]

Quote: svp67

I just want to WARN.

To do this, Putin has the FSB, the SVR, the GRU, etc., and the introduction of troops into another country has never done without blood, even in the Crimea, unfortunately, blood was spilled.

[svp67]

Quote: svetlomor

To do this, Putin has the FSB, SVR, GRU and

Well, firstly, not Putin, but Russia, and secondly, there is also the Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSO, FAPSI and "Russian Post" ... Everyone will do and do their own thing. Thirdly, blood is blood, but also psychological readiness for what and with what they can meet there, SIMPLY MUST BE ...

[lelikas]

Quote: svp67

and "Russian Post" ...

Nooo! Just not that - if they take on the job of kirdyk planet !!!

[nicollider]

therefore, you need to enter in a pinch, which is happening now. or when a humanitarian catastrophe erupts

[nicollider]

Do not forget about Kemsku parish :)

[nicollider]

sorry who offended? USA and satellites? these are enemies - they should be wronged

[sova8]

And we were offended when Crimea was taken away from us and still southeast, as I understood then, there was a lot of dissatisfaction, and 91 percent didn’t want to separate, I don’t understand then and it’s insulting for that people, it would be more honest then west of Ukraine to secede,

[krpmlws]

Quote: svp67

Quote: svetlomor

And who conducted these polls and how can they be believed ?!

It is clear that now no one will hold them there, this is personal opinion and impressions ... The annexation of Crimea, both our Victory and our Defeat ... After it, very many were offended by us ...

They carry water on the offended. They did not leave us with a choice: either our bases in Crimea, Sevastopol or NATO. This is despite the fact that the NATO guarantees the non-proliferation of NATO to the east. NATO made its choice, now it’s a step for the Russian Federation in Crimea. Brave, I would said the heroic, for the powerful part of the world was told stop. There is no defeat in this, there is a cold war, as we usually did not start, the NATO wolf simply threw off the sheep's skin and showed the evil grin to the whole world. We are mentally prepared for this, otherwise It could not. Russia said that it did not intend to tolerate NATO’s eastward expansion and would do everything possible to uphold the truth, observing agreements with NATO on the non-expansion of the aggressive military bloc to the east.

[nicollider]

social surveys can not be trusted. no way. because their components are biased. only referendum. and honest vote count

[avs1208]

"and 50% are ready to fight her to the death" - don't talk nonsense, they'll tell you something else over a bottle of vodka. "There are few real violent."

[svp67]

Quote: avs1208

"There are few real violent."

I also agree, many heroes in words, but nevertheless it is ... And one thing in Crimea, where it was completely clear for WHOM the local population and therefore the army behaved completely infantile, completely different in continental Ukraine. Right now, Donbass is being "vaccinated" from Ukrainization ... in the rest of the territory there are various "self-defense", and anti-Russian orientation - darkness. Time, it will put a lot in its place ...

[avs1208]

We sat thumping, self-signed off from nothing to do. And time, by the way, more than once put everything in its place.

[visitor]

The sofa party drives

[mrDimkaP]

The numbers are not correct ... however, no one can name the correct numbers. But, the trouble is that at least part of the Ukrainians for us, and even does not consider themselves fully Ukrainians, the other part really hates us sincerely.

[serioga]

Yes, in Odessa, young people played a war game of 12 hundred played a grenade and it exploded and declared a terrorist attack, so they all went through arrogance trembling like wet kittens

[svp67]

Quote: serioga

Yes, in Odessa, young people played a war game of 12 hundred played a grenade and it exploded and declared a terrorist attack, so they all went through arrogance trembling like wet kittens

It’s one thing to shout about the war and to knock loudly on drums, it’s another when you suddenly realize that not only are you ready to kill, but you too ... and who is more lucky. In this situation, many people always become pacifists ...

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: svp67

About 15 percent of the population is waiting for our army there, and then in the Southeast regions, and 50% are ready to fight with it to death,

But you didn’t get anything wrong with the numbers? If not, then what to discuss? Spit tries on this infernal territory and forget? The topic is not worth it. Why did you come by yourself? Convince us of this?
So there’s even nothing to discuss!
Huh?

[Orik]

Quote: svp67

I repeat - the Russian army is going to save Ukraine, and not to fight with it. Point.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that not a dot but a comma. Our army is waiting for 15 percent of the population there, and then in the Southeast regions, and 50% is ready to fight with it, and this is mainly YOUTH ... the mood of the population of Ukraine over the past 20 years has changed dramatically and it’s IMPOSSIBLE not to notice it. ..

Galimov's nonsense, 50% of this will be supported at least throughout Ukraine, against 30% will be 3-5% of them will fight XNUMX-XNUMX% and even many before the first real battle.
In the appendix, the attitude before the events, note after the war the Georgians have even better results!

[Orik]

And here are the answers to the question “How has your attitude towards Russia changed?”, Conducted by the Ukrainian TV channel 112. Another 3-5 months and they will be even higher.

[nicollider]

how did it go through censorship?

[asar]

I think Russia is tired of meeting the "cargo 200" again! Enough to fight! Caucasus - they put a lot of ours and yours! enough! Russia will not leave the Caucasus, This is our land, conquered by our blood! Is war not enough for you ?! May be enough?! Many Caucasians were in Afghanistan, they served faithfully! Rest in peace to ALL HEROES! That little was loaded into "black tulips" ?! Are you tired ?! I'm TIRED, honestly! And you brought the cargo "200" to your homeland, to your parents! And to Ossetia, and to Georgia, and to Dagestan, to Russia! Have you looked them in the eye ?! What, hurray-patriotism wilted ?!

[nicollider]

Imperial ambitions need to be paid.
I did not carry. and I hope that you don’t have to send or receive. but the death of the 1st soldier in the war will probably save 1000 civilian lives

[lelikas]

Dear, we are not at war with anyone! You can rest easy.

[asar]

Russia is not ready to meet the "cargo 200" again! Cool it guys!

[Validator]

Quote: svp67

I repeat - the Russian army is going to save Ukraine, and not to fight with it. Point.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that not a dot but a comma. Our army is waiting for 15 percent of the population there, and then in the Southeast regions, and 50% is ready to fight with it, and this is mainly YOUTH ... the mood of the population of Ukraine over the past 20 years has changed dramatically and it’s IMPOSSIBLE not to notice it. ..

I do not agree. The active part of the population there is from 10 percent on both sides. In the east, this asset is for us, in the west it is against. These are those who go to rallies. But real tenths of a percent are ready to kill and die. This amount is enough to make a mess, but there will be no massacre. That's when the collapse of the economy comes in the fall - then drain the water, any government will be demolished. And now, the deployment of troops to the South-East will be possible only with serious battles with the masses of those killed. Something tells me that this could happen in May.

[Interface]

That the USA will receive the next and most painful blow to its status of world hegemon

Everything would be fine, but if the USA ceases to dominate, then we will remain 1 on 1 with China. Not a bright prospect. There will be no one to restrain Asians. In general, we don’t have troops in Primorye, only border guards! From Irkutsk to Khabarovsk - 2 brigade.

[Tartary]

Quote: Interface

Everything would be fine, but if the USA ceases to dominate, then we will remain 1 on 1 with China. Not a bright prospect. There will be no one to restrain Asians. We don’t have any troops in Primorye, only border guards! From Irkutsk to Khabarovsk - 2 brigades

Stop pumping the unobvious!

China is pro-Russian and does not need to run ahead of the engine ... Otherwise, we can talk about the threat of Antarctica with millions of penguins to the Russian Far Eastern borders, and even more absurd to the borders of the Russian Arctic ...

[zbidnev]

Ukraine, too, was pro-Russian. Now, no. And about China, read their strategies. They are worse than Americans

[nicollider]

Do you mean the people of Ukraine or the authorities? and if the people are east or west?

[lelikas]

Quote: zbidnev

Ukraine, too, was pro-Russian.

Well, yes, yes, then the whole Baltic just in ecstasy beats with love for us.

[sova8]

And here I agree with the Chinese, you also need to keep your eyes open, and by the way, they said something there that they wanted to buy black soil from you ,,

[nicollider]

I don’t think that the Chinese would decide, in the 90s when Russia was dying, they didn’t dare, now what suddenly?

[mig31]

Everything is allowed, if truth and justice are on the face, politeness is inappropriate against the arrogance and unconsciousness of amers and the west ....

[Gloria45]

For the first time, the Russian Foreign Minister directly addressed the EU and US public English (video)
For the first time, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov openly stated that Moscow would consider an attack on Russian citizens as an attack on Russia. If we are attacked, of course, will answer him, said Sergey Lavrov in an interview with the Russian channel in English Rasa USAToday.

In his crisis in Ukraine and the possible answers of Moscow, the Russian Foreign Minister touched upon the tension of the American admininstracije.

Sergey Lavrov gave an interview in English, and in fact this is a direct appeal to the public from the EU and the USA over the heads of the US administration and European governments. the tone of the interview shows that Moscow no longer intends to reconcile with the colossal scale of lies, distortions of Russian politics, the provocation of the Kiev authorities and the machinations of the Obama administration to its borders.

More from an interview with Sergei Lavrov about the events in Ukraine was presented in such harsh and decisive tones. Russia's foreign minister, one of the most experienced diplomats in the world, has essentially confirmed the red line beyond which the Kremlin will not allow neo-Nazi juntas in Kiev and its patrons in Washington to receive.

America, Sergei Lavrov said, he blames someone else’s shoulders, blaming Russia for events in Ukraine. According to Lavrov, Russia does not nemerava suffer damage to their interests, or attacks on their citizens.

- If we are attacked, of course, answer him. If they threatened their legitimate interests, in direct violation of the interests of Russian citizens, as was the case with South Ossetia, I see no other way but to answer in accordance with all the rules of international law.

Pomen South Ossetia is directly connected with the Caucasian war in the 2008th year who started the pro-American regime of President Mikheil Saakashvili. On the night of August 7 and 8, 2008. There was Georgian troops began shelling the Ossetian capital. Among the main goals they have chosen are Russian peacekeepers and a base near Tskhinvali.

Istochnik: http: //www.srbijadanas.net/ministar-spoljnih-poslova-rusije-se-prvi-pu

t-direktno-obratio-javnosti-eu-sad-na-engleskom-video /
translation from Serbian without correction

[Gloria45]

The peace battalion was in South Ossetia in a completely legal basis, in accordance with the agreement between Russia, Georgia and South Ossetia in 1992. It was. Georgian troops violated and killed 12 Russian fifties. 150 were seriously injured. Moscow was forced to start peace enforcement. She completed the general break corps of Saakashvili.

Sergei Lavrov made no secret of the patience of Moscow when it finally became clear that the protectorate of Kiev and the junta of Kiev were directly controlled by Washington. This is clearly seen, according to him, the visit of US Vice President Joe Biden to Kiev has just completed. The White House openly switched over to "manual control" by its Kiev governors.

During the visit of Vice President Joe Biden to Kiev on April 21 and 22, the Kiev authorities announced the resumption of counter-terrorism operations, said Lavrov. It is significant that the Kiev authorities publish during Biden’s visit. The decision to launch the operation in Kiev was made after the trip, whose director was John Brennan. The latter was in Kiev on April 13th. Because I have no reason to believe that the United States is regulated by characteristics, the Russian minister said.

Sergey Lavrov rejected the allegations against Russia about alleged involvement in violence in eastern Ukraine and the preparation of aggression against Kiev from Moscow.

- Russian troops are on the territory of Russia. Russia met the inspection requirement in accordance with the so-called Vienna Document 2011 Agreement and Open Skies :. Inspectors visited the regions where they deployed troops participating in the maneuvers and took observation flights over these regions. None of them - not Americans, nor Ukrainians, Europeans -. They did not find any evidence of Russia's participation in military activities that threaten Ukraine

Sergey Lavrov also said that he was surprised that the US Secretary of State, John Kerry, face-to-face negotiations recognizes the Kiev authorities as radical and extremist. But the public says the opposite. I completely unbelievable called the US allegations that all administrative buildings in Kiev adopted by gangsters protesting on the basis of completely legal.

Ukraine is only one of the manifestations of the United States to surrender to an undesirable geopolitical battle. And it would be good if the United States learned to think not only about its own geopolitical interests, but also about the rights of ordinary people.

[Yuri Sev Caucasus]

The truth is on our side. Therefore, we must do what is in our interests and there is no one to look back at. And they will impose sanctions anyway, so what's the point of waiting?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

I repeat - the Russian army is going to save Ukraine, and not to fight with it. Point.

Great article! It’s time for men to put a bullet in this 23rd morae with Ukraine .. Otherwise, we will not be Russians ..!

[Little Muck]

Quote: MIKHAN

Great article! It’s time for men to put a bullet in this 23rd morae with Ukraine .. Otherwise, we will not be Russians ..!

Wow, what a fighter.
And for you, our president, GDP authority, or what?
What did the order do? From whom?
What is starting a civil war with the people of Ukraine?
Where is the logic? You might think first, then write.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Little Muck

Quote: MIKHAN

Great article! It’s time for men to put a bullet in this 23rd morae with Ukraine .. Otherwise, we will not be Russians ..!

Wow, what a fighter.
And for you, our president, GDP authority, or what?
What did the order do? From whom?
What is starting a civil war with the people of Ukraine?
Where is the logic? You might think first, then write.

Putin is not authority. Russia authority! I'm tired of thinking and reasoning (we have already begun to kill us ..)
There will be no civil war.
There will be extrusion of all scum from Ukraine.
And at the expense of logic, then listen to Lavrov and Churkin .. (they are already tired of explaining logically to "partners")
And in conclusion, the most important thing .. I PERSONALLY TIRED WHEN MY COUNTRY IS HUMILIATED AND PREVENTED IN THE BEST And we all make excuses .. I said everything (and do not anger me please)

[Little Muck]

Quote: MIKHAN

Putin is not authority. Russia authority!

And who then is Putin in your opinion?
Or did you return Crimea without a single shot to Russia?
I’m also a pissed fighter.
By the way, in battle it would be nice to have a cold head, and common sense.
And for you minus Putin!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Little Muck

Quote: MIKHAN

Putin is not authority. Russia authority!

And who then is Putin in your opinion?
Or did you return Crimea without a single shot to Russia?
I’m also a pissed fighter.
By the way, in battle it would be nice to have a cold head, and common sense.
And for you minus Putin!

You are a provocateur ..and very slippery)))
And Putin doesn't need to hide behind .. (I feel such liberals intuitively ..) Once again I repeat do not be angry .. Me your minuses (like mosquito bites) ..))

[Little Muck]

Quote: MIKHAN

You are a provocateur ..and very slippery))) And Putin does not need to hide behind

What is the provocation?
My position on the junta is understandable. These are my enemies.
Just read my comments. And when the official opportunity arises. I will definitely use it (military enlistment offices have not yet been canceled).
In the meantime, I do not want to give a reason for the SBU (officially our military in Ukraine is not) against my country and GDP. Unlike you, for me he is credibility.
So what is slippery? Because I follow the actions of my president?

[Turkir]

It is dangerous to wishful thinking.

[Interface]

Quote: svp67

I repeat - the Russian army is going to save Ukraine, and not to fight with it. Point.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that not a dot but a comma. Our army is waiting for 15 percent of the population there, and then in the Southeast regions, and 50% is ready to fight with it, and this is mainly YOUTH ... the mood of the population of Ukraine over the past 20 years has changed dramatically and it’s IMPOSSIBLE not to notice it. ..

Hahahah all heroism ends after 1-2 shots in the legs, usually. Jump to the side

[bucha12]

We must begin with the fifth column ...

[Sergg]

It can be said briefly:

Russian troops will not cross the border with Ukraine under any circumstances. They simply pushed the border Ukraine beyond the borders of the Donetsk Republic ...

Donetsk and Lugansk are Russian, Russian territories - historical justice must triumph.

[Roman 57 rus]

Many more fatty +++

[Little Muck]

Polite Russian tanks, having destroyed an insignificant group of bandits dressed in Ukrainian military uniforms (yes, a real military operation will be necessary here, and victims are possible there), then they will roll children and grateful women on their polite armor through the cities of New Russia and Ukraine.
So far, as far as I know, our troops are not in Ukraine.
It seems that everyone has already decided for us. Who!
I am against the juntabut let me say, where is the rebellious Ukraine, where are at least hundreds of thousands of angry citizens of Ukraine. One Slavyansk and Lugansk.
Yes, not all residents of Ukraine will be happy, and it will take time for their brains to move away from aggressive zombies.
Judging by the TV footage, they are in the majority (or simply "shit")
And the last line:
I repeat - the Russian army is going to save Ukraine, and not to fight with it. Point.
Well, the "president" is straightforward. I have already announced everything.

[Giant thought]

That's right, we must go to save the Russians from the genocide by the fascist Bandera junta. And all these warnings are reminiscent of the shouts in June of the 1941 year about not succumbing to provocations. Also, as now, oh, we will be called aggressors, oh, we will be announced additional sanctions. The people of our country are giving carte blanche to the liberation of Ukraine from fascism, so let it take advantage of it.

[Tartary]

It is necessary to set a date for the entry of the peacekeeping contingent (!) Of Russian troops to the South-East of Ukraine, and the author correctly writes: - "together with the RF Ministry of Emergencies" ...
Determine the places where the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be stationed ... the rest "who did not hide, I am not guilty", who will resist (like the Right Sector) threaten that they will be destroyed ... And really destroy!
We do not like fascists and this must be proved in memory of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers.

Merikosovo protests - LIKE! Let them rule at home.

People with Putin! Belarus and Kazakhstan are with us! Forward the Slavs!

Personally, at the first call of the motherland I’ll go to the military enlistment office under arms!

[Little Muck]

Quote: Tartary

It is necessary to set a date for the introduction of the peacekeeping contingent (!) Of Russian troops in the South-East of Ukraine

We also indicate how many of us will be, what forces we will enter. In general, we will write our action plan, print leaflets, and be sure to give out to the banderlogs so that everyone knows and checks. Suddenly we move away from the plan. Yes?
If anything, sit at home. Ripples there will be more intact.
And you’re fighting the computer. By the way, quite seriously. Wage an information war.

[thinker]

Polite Russian tanks, having destroyed an insignificant group of bandits dressed in Ukrainian military uniforms (yes, a real military operation will be necessary here, and victims are possible there), then they will roll children and grateful women on their polite armor through the cities of New Russia and Ukraine.

You can’t write so frivolously about the WAR !!!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Watering Bandera along with amers .. (my strength is no longer ..)

[pensioner]

What is this terribly cunning American trap?

Yes, many times already voiced: what exactly. And in the media and in those. It seems to me that now our diplomats are working hard on their BRICS colleagues, etc. on the topic of open, unconditional support for Russian military actions in Ukraine. Maybe not even BRICS, but even wider. So far, there will not be such an open and unconditional support for the military actions of Russia on the territory of Ukraine from several countries significant in international affairs - there will be no troop deployment either. And the sanctions, I’m absolutely sure, we will still feel on ourselves. Shitting Russia is a favorite hobby of the West, in which they have achieved significant success. We will feel, but I have no doubt, we will withstand it and get out of this situation even more. But you have to suffer. Somewhere, let it hurt. As the youth says - IMHO.

[alex47russ]

I agree! Amerikososov and gangsters must be wet !!!

[Nonik]

The trap here is a high-cost military campaign. That's all. The USSR has exhausted the arms race, for example.
I personally would not mind joining the southeast. But the question is in the calculations - how much will this military campaign of the Russian Federation pay off and what are its consequences. Is the industry in southeastern Ukraine worth all the costs or not? There are different points of view on this subject.
But, as it seems to me, Russia will come out of this trap only by intensifying.

[GRune]

The trap is that Russia now simply can’t pull on grandmothers, it will become harder to live, and liberals with a creative class will raise a bucket with us, while those who are hardest can stand under their banners ... We have a maidan and all the charms at home ... Type Tops can not bottoms do not want 2017 will be the result. Therefore, you must be wiser and more accurate!

[mpa945]

Here I am the same.
He dreamed when he married five, well, at least three children. I managed only one.
Then the era of change began, well, you yourself know.
And here I am, we must first decide with housing, and education is now paid, and medicine.
It’s already a stone's throw away. Waiting for grandchildren.
And why the hell am I so prudent? Is there any sense in material well-being?
And nothing more?

[GRune]

Such crap colleague, I’m a bit younger current ...

[Simple]

Interview with Igor Strelkov, one of the leaders of the defense of Slavyansk




and further:

Voentorg wants to register the "Polite People" trademark:

http://www.nakanune.ru/news/2014/4/26/22350624


Slavyansk: Kiev aggressors conduct reconnaissance in battle (25.04.2014):

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/

[pensioner]

And here, by the way, is the LEADER. He competently, calmly and restrainedly explained almost ALL for 10 minutes allotted to him. Against his background Avakov - a dummy.

[lelikas]

Quote: retired

. Against his background Avakov - a dummy.

But in the personal book he is a hero !!!

[pensioner]

Quote: lelikas

But in the personal book he is a hero

Yes, I am there too, Apollo ...

[MG42]

Who from Kharkov tomorrow rally anti-Maidan at Lenin at 12-00, and in 16-30 there will be a provocation Dnepropetrovsk pravoseki and ultras will arrive to KharkovPerhaps there will be hassles we take remedies.

An interesting video was posted today by the OSCE mission communicating with residents of Lugansk >>
Luhansk residents ask specific questions in response to European mooing >>

[Gradus HuK]

Quote: Tartary

Quote: svp67

Alas, I can’t say such things about mine, as well as about many people with whom I was friends before, for them I am now the enemy.

And many of my friends and acquaintances say this to me ...
What it is simply impossible to talk to many of your own in Ukraine - the feeling that there is zombie darkness.

In Nazi Germany, too, everyone was zombified. How much grief brought everyone. What will we wait.

[Gradus HuK]

Quote: svp67

Quote: svetlomor

And who conducted these polls and how can they be believed ?!

It is clear that now no one will hold them there, this is personal opinion and impressions ... The annexation of Crimea, both our Victory and our Defeat ... After it, very many were offended by us ...

They take water to the offended and x .. put.

[Albus]

We are frightened by the war with the brothers. There will be no war with the people of Ukraine. There will be a rescue operation to protect our native people from the criminals who sat down in Kiev with the help of the Americans.

Have you thought what will happen after this rescue operation?
The NATO countries are conspiring against Russia. Now they are trying to draw into the war first with Ukraine, and then they can set fire to other parties. This is obvious. If you fight, you need to do it powerfully and lightning fast, but in Ukraine everything is mixed and among normal there are enough fascists who can tie our forces for a long time while we pick them out from the mass of the people. The separation process is ongoing, but not completed. As long as Russia does not fight openly, there is an opportunity for other maneuvers, and not all masks have been dropped. It’s possible without regular help troops, for example, with weapons, money, medicines, food. And once again, we have a huge border, other troops can and should sharply come up when troops are sent in, we need to prepare.

[Gradus HuK]

Quote: Interface

That the USA will receive the next and most painful blow to its status of world hegemon

Everything would be fine, but if the USA ceases to dominate, then we will remain 1 on 1 with China. Not a bright prospect. There will be no one to restrain Asians. In general, we don’t have troops in Primorye, only border guards! From Irkutsk to Khabarovsk - 2 brigade.

And if the grandmother had eggs would be a grandfather))

[Kulneff2009]

Quote: svp67

Yes, the fact of the matter is that not a dot but a comma. Our army is waiting for 15 percent of the population there, and then in the Southeast regions, and 50% is ready to fight with it, and this is mainly YOUTH ... the mood of the population of Ukraine over the past 20 years has changed dramatically and it’s IMPOSSIBLE not to notice it. ..

That's right! Not many in Ukraine see Russia as a friend. Wives have parents in Ukraine. It seems to be adults. Born under the USSR, friendship of peoples. But now they are brainwashed too! I don’t communicate anymore. Because we are invaders for them! And believe me, there are a lot of them. And there are even more of those who just sit and wait for what will come of it all.

[VNP1958PVN]

All this gadyushnik called "our western partners" are trying with horror to unleash a war between Ukraine and Russia! Because the main thing in this war will be the pipe! And Ukraine, and Russia, by and large, no one needs the fuck there!

[Gradus HuK]

Quote: NoNick

The trap here is a high-cost military campaign. That's all. The USSR has exhausted the arms race, for example.
I personally would not mind joining the southeast. But the question is in the calculations - how much will this military campaign of the Russian Federation pay off and what are its consequences. Is the industry in southeastern Ukraine worth all the costs or not? There are different points of view on this subject.
But, as it seems to me, Russia will come out of this trap only by intensifying.

RUSSIA needs to return their historical territories and unite their PEOPLE.

[Ross]

Quote: zbidnev

I don’t really need your pluses, nor candles. It’s not shameful to die for one’s Motherland, and it was an honor among all nations. And for whom will your soldiers and officers die and kill? For a mythical empire? For the USSR? or for someone’s ambition? And this is a shame.

It's not about the pros ... Where did Andrey get so much hatred from you? You are circled around the finger upstarts, your newly-minted leaders, and for some reason hatred towards us, towards Russia. They sell the United States country for nothing, secretly export our common Scythian gold worth tens of billions of dollars, and for you ordinary Ukrainians introduce new taxes and raise tariffs and cancel privileges. And why are we again to blame for you? I really want you, our blood brothers, to wake up. Nobody wants to fight with brothers.

[zbidnev]

I have no hatred. I have my own opinion, I defend him, I do not insult anyone. If I’m wrong, I can prove it with reason. I don’t even know what it is. I have no hatred for any nation. It may have been circled - the result of an information war. Or maybe they also do not favor you with the truth. I don’t want to fight, many here prefer to decide everything by force. But in the world it so happened that there is always another force in force. And this must be remembered by all. At the expense of the guilty - everyone has a share of guilt, which everyone decides for himself. And history will decide later.

[alin12]

He answered, what are closer to you and their shops than Russia and Russians? Write in Russian, probably also not in English, you don’t see who operates in Kiev now and what they are doing with Ukraine? They suggested something good in the economy or just inflate a civil war ? Think at least not a lot with your head and not that your media is sucking in!

[mpa945]

if only it would benefit their financial interests.

So we do not communicate in zombies. Google can help you find everything, you just need to filter.

But in the world it so happened that there is always another force in force

I will reveal the secret. For a quarter of a century, it turned out that only the strongest is right in the world. As well as before.
Just before there was another pole of power. And now one. Arrogant Saxons and their large mattress club.
Do you want to be a part of this "Power"?
So that the Ukrainian guys "defend democracy" in Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia. Do you think it all ended there? Travel to Syria, Iran.
Or is it in the interests of Ukraine that NATO bases with missiles be closer to Moscow? What is your interest? Just shit on Russia?
You have overthrown the legally elected president by force of arms. Is this your triumph of democracy?
You have overthrown a thief whom you yourself have chosen and put the oligarchs, murderers, and Bandera on your neck. You yourself are not zapadlo?
Your current "rulers", not the cowardly Janek, fired on the Maidan, as even their sponsors admitted to. Now they are killing in Slavyansk. Ukrainians. Who did not recognize the Bandera junta.
So wake up, dump these freaks yourself. Choose your president who will not distribute the regions of Ukraine to oligarchs for feeding. Read the agreement with Geyropa. Do you need it?
Turn on your head. Get up from the couch, drive the junta.
And we will help. And not the army, if they themselves are ready to handle it.

[Cynic]

Quote: zbidnev

. I have my opinion, I defend it

Yes to health.
But just for the sake of interest, I looked, on the advice of the TV so not beloved by you, and with what actually the ALWAYS revolution ended. Pictures are promising.
See for yourself, the same for the sake of interest, even if purely psychologically ready
Have you met?
http://gefter.ru/archive/11598

[DanSabaka]

Is the author a provocateur? minus.

[Rusik.S]

I thought so too. The feeling that I’m pushing into war

[DanSabaka]

I do not think ... I see ....

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Little Muck

So what is slippery? Because I follow the actions of my president?

You passed the test (in my concept))) Goodbye ...

[sabakina]

The last time we fought in 1941-1945. Since then, we have simply been peacemaking. Any other docks? : - /

[ASSARU]

It hurts everything smoothly and sweetly and drunk.
It remains to add, with barely tossing and turning language, Nessa VaVaN BuD PatSaNom.

[Lelek]

Hello to you. I believe (from my perch) that it is necessary to help the population of the south-west of Ukraine with weapons, medicines, money, truthful information about what is happening, and peacekeeping troops should be deployed only as a last resort (i.e. when there will be a real threat of military operations against the population of the region). But you need to catch the Bandera head the day before yesterday. Take an example from the work of Mossad.

[Odinger]

Quote: zbidnev

If it were economic assistance, cooperation, and not all kinds of trade wars - the southeast and not only in a year, I would ask for two myself, so how would we really feel a kinship.

With all due respect to you zbidnev! Economic assistance from Russia was throughout the independence of Ukraine. Let it be hidden there under various privileges for gas, etc., they killed their own agricultural products, but we bought and buy Ukrainian products, did not develop our own production, but used the old schemes from the USSR (orders for military or near war for you). Although why did you need help. After the collapse, Ukraine was one of the strongest economies in the post-Soviet (the whole Union rebuilt both after the war and in stagnation). All that was stolen was seized by your oligarchs and now they mock you, your patriotism - money for the army, Russia - the occupier, the enemy, kill the Russian (I) - earn ...

Quote: zbidnev

After the Crimea, we will fight with you, we are on our land and we will figure it out here ourselves.
This is not Georgia and Chechnya do not meddle with us. We are no longer brothers and our relations with you are not friendly.

Now about the Crimea. Can't you see who came to power in your country? Pro-American puppets. Samples are nowhere to put. 2-3 years would have passed and in the Crimea there would have been an American military base (in the prospects of a missile defense), and our base would have been turned around, found a pretext (provocation). The whole Caucasus is in full view, the Russian Plain, the Black Sea is under control, etc. and inappropriately the United States bother with the Czech Republic and Poland. So Crimea is primarily geopolitics. GDP managed first. Therefore, the Americans raised such a high.
And about not the brothers. So take Chechnya for example. The first company all Czechs united front against the aggressor (Russia). But after living 4 years in bloody lawlessness, many have rethought.
I do not mean that Russia should enter the territory of Ukraine, but that you would understand that Russia is close in mentality and spirit of the country. And it pains us to see how your oligarchs are tearing you along with Amer.

[Tolibas]

Provocative article, let's go protect, run to save, that's enough words. Everything is much more complicated, Russia is openly invited to the war. And we must accept this challenge, DIMLOMATY and again DIPLOMACY. To juggle, justify and present, present and justify, the facts of the gangster manifestation, s, geyropeytsy, leaky Kiev nonhumans and other nonsense. And then, we get from these B.L. in all severity.

[Nika-10]

Nobody specifically is going to save the Ukrainian people. There is a war over spheres of influence and economic interests. Money, money, money and, again, money. All under the beautiful slogans of democracy on the one hand and salvation from the junta on the other. All recently, Russia has actively contributed to the decline of the Ukrainian economy. Let's remember the "trade wars" and the "gas contract". Until now, the Kremlin has quite calmly looked at how the Ukrainian oligarchs are robbing the country and were ready to negotiate even with the devil, if only it would benefit their financial interests. They will agree now, but the people will, as always, do not care.

[mpa945]

Exactly.
The Kremlin has appointed all the presidents of Ukraine. And he planted the oligarchs.
Aren't you funny yourself?
The Kremlin is forced to negotiate with those freaks that you have chosen and named.
And the "trade wars" are somehow strange. They tortured everyone with discounts on gas, paid for transit in advance. It looks like they have a lot of education ... And you

if only it would benefit their financial interests.

[Watson J.]

And I put a plus sign. So I wanted to believe in the originality of the avatar and in the naive desire to be "saved". I'm a romantic :) Partly pretty avatar is right, but only very, very partly ... Explaining is long and lazy, forgive me, the sun. The time will come, just come and save.

[KAVS]

If everything was so easy and simple, a look from kindergarten ....

[Bosk]

Sooner or later, Ukraine will have to be "taken", but anyway the western part should become a separate country and let it marinate in its own juice.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Bosk

Sooner or later, Ukraine will have to be "taken", but anyway the western part should become a separate country and let it marinate in its own juice.

"Sooner or later" has already passed (23 years of suffering) You need to take everything at once.!

[Strong point]

Quote: zbidnev

Yes, I agree with you. If it were economic assistance, cooperation, and not all kinds of trade wars - the southeast and not only in a year, I would ask for two myself, so how would we really feel a kinship. After the Crimea, we will fight with you, we are on our land and we will figure it out here ourselves. This is not Georgia and Chechnya do not meddle with us. We are no longer brothers and our relations with you are not friendly.

Now they are no longer "brothers" ?! ... How many years have you been warmed (and not only) for free, - to now "warm up" with screams "... this is an unacceptable price !!! ..". Yes, this is not the main thing. And what is the cost of the redemption of the majority of the Ukrainian Russian-speaking people under the onslaught of the not newfound propaganda of "Europeanization"? And the desire each time through the corrupt authorities to snatch the remaining piece of the living from the deceived people? What is IT worth? Personally, I don't aspire to be brothers. Although he was baptized in Voroshilovgrad in 1982 and my godfather lives there with a large family, naturally I worry about them, and not only about them. It hurts to realize that the Memory, which is priceless forever and irrevocably, leaves your minds instead of the artificially grown "idea of ​​fix", which no one can explain, let alone understand. Ukraine, in its current general geographic, social and cultural state, will not have in common with Europe in the form that the troupe of tragicomic people from Kiev imagines. Everything will be determined by the people themselves. His desire and decisiveness in realizing his rights, although belated for many years, nevertheless deserves great RESPECT !!! And on this I completely agree with you - there is no need to get ahead of the events. But about the Crimea - no need! The whole earth, although it is defined by borders, - remember how much total blood has already been shed on YOUR part of it in order not to delay, but to completely burn out the shoots of fascism. Of course, there have always been excesses of leaders in relation to different peoples in their countries, but I am sure that this absolutely does NOT apply to real Russia, although it is full of social problems too. I disagree with the author of the article. Our current status does not allow us to be at least to some extent aggressors and to become on a par with the ubiquitous Americans. And on the sopatka they got - and they will get more! (It's not even a slap in the face before a duel)

[Deff]

Hmm, we warmed up, but few people knew and appreciated this from the people, and for 23 there was no serious counter-propaganda. The idea of ​​fix was imposed and adjusted by the USA.
The method of all the orange revolutions to form a nationalist movement is allegedly infringed on by neighbors and the government.

[demotivator]

Quote: MIKHAN

Such bitch and seized power in Kiev .. You think you can agree with them ..?

Bitch still those! Noteworthy and indicative here is another equilibrium. The Right Sector, when it began to maidan, fiercely called for the expulsion of moskals and Jews disgusted with them, and frankly even wanted to put them on its knives.
And suddenly, like a chick chirp, a kurdyk kuk. Voila rublya and oppa .... These same expectations, against the dominance of which the right-wing sector actually acted in politics and business, suddenly suddenly took up all the posts for everyone, then nominated Poroshenko for presidency and now announce awards for the capture of separatists and militias in dollars per kilogram. And in between, they also hold all kinds of conferences. And the main thing they have there on TV is not anyone, but that same Savik, that’s Shuster!
Or am I misunderstanding something, or did the Nazis gentlemen fight for what ????

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: demotivator

Or am I misunderstanding something, or did the Nazis gentlemen fight for what ????

You understand correctly .. (although I myself do not understand everything ..))) In my head is one word "wet tries" .. Hard but I don’t see any other way out alas!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

May be deleted but I liked it ..

[Strong point]

Quote: Nika-10

Nobody specifically is going to save the Ukrainian people. There is a war over spheres of influence and economic interests. Money, money, money and, again, money. All under the beautiful slogans of democracy on the one hand and salvation from the junta on the other. All recently, Russia has actively contributed to the decline of the Ukrainian economy. Let's remember the "trade wars" and the "gas contract". Until now, the Kremlin has quite calmly looked at how the Ukrainian oligarchs are robbing the country and were ready to negotiate even with the devil, if only it would benefit their financial interests. They will agree now, but the people will, as always, do not care.

Yes, for more than twenty (at least) years you have spat in our direction with the whole crowd, and you still have free firewood as a brother? "Trade wars" ... How familiar ... And where does the wind blow from ?! Yes, I didn’t look calmly, it’s just such a "mentality" of independence, - well, what you were striving for, then you have to reap, unfortunately great. Everything that has been brewing for many years and trying to get out - you-s-s-went ...
Patience to you and chastity

[family tree]

During the assault on Berlin, in the 45th, after ours broke into the Berlin metro, the German command received an order to flood it, which was done, despite the large number of civilians fleeing there.
What am I doing? There will be no armed invasion of Ukraine from Russia. Even if the Donetsk army is assembled, they will not move beyond the borders of the Donetsk region towards Kiev. Because in Kiev the Americans are in power and they have half of Ukraine hostage. Because there is a Kiev reservoir, 99m above sea level, which is considered one of the most dangerous objects on earth.
http://vu.ua/news/2585.html
And there is an emergency dam that can be undermined, and blame it on the actions of the GRU specialists, who have already filled their mouths even to the west. And there’s a bunch of nuclear power plants. And America, by and large, doesn’t give a damn about Ukraine and the EEC, Ukraine, for them, bargaining pawn.
So zbidnev, you have already been occupied, and firmly held by the udder.

[VL33]

It is necessary to save Ukraine politely, accurately in the very Moldavia and Uzhgorod! And you need to turn off the zombie TV of Ukraine. Amer fascists with right-geysekami themselves leave or ..... we will not regret. I was born and lived in Ukraine until 2008.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: VL33

It is necessary to save Ukraine politely, accurately in the very Moldavia and Uzhgorod! And you need to turn off the zombie TV of Ukraine. Amer fascists with right-geysekami themselves leave or ..... we will not regret. I was born and lived in Ukraine until 2008.

The best option immediately to Lisbon (tank engines to cool) and swim in the ocean)))) And the silence is .. the fly fly eh!

[Makarych]

[quote = svp67] [quote = Oleg147741] Alas, I can’t say such things about mine, as well as about many people I was friends with before, I’m an enemy for them. [/ quote]
At Easter, I decided to congratulate my friends and relatives in Ukraine. I called 4 families, and only in one we talked about the holiday. With the rest, I got the impression that they were treated by one doctor and took one medicine. b, for sale are the most affectionate words. My words about Easter, Christ - no reaction. They curse the USSR, Yanukovych, Putin (though they also do not want to talk about 23 years of independence). My dummy - they’re zombie there (I don’t know what and how). This began to be noticeable immediately after the Orange Revolution when Yushchenko took office. And now, in normal, adequate people, whom I knew before, it just blew the roof. They need not a single tub of cold water for their collar to bring them to life. And with ears in Kiev already stand. God forbid this happiness is on their heads ....

[Vitaly Anisimov]

You are a provocateur!

Quote: Makarych

people whom I knew before just tore off the roof. They need not a single tub of cold water for their collar to bring them to life. And with ears in Kiev already stand. God forbid this happiness is on their heads ....

[saag]

He’s not a provocateur, my family reacts about the same way from Lviv, and my acquaintances’s nephew is ready to shoot an aunt, as they say, the result of information processing, do not build illusions that there are many for Russia, a quarter

[lance]

zbitnevu and nick feel the difference all russians are talking about the liberation of the territory where the majority of Russian and rssk-speaking and you are against the entire Russian Federation? why, because you think we need your territory, what is your territory? and to be honest, everything depends on the military-industrial complex. including for the EU and the USA. They believe that they will weaken the Russian Federation by undermining the Ukrainian military-industrial complex and they deeply give a shit about everything else, including democracy. and as soon as the Russian Federation takes a step, there will be a lot of calls, but they will instantly calm down and you will see it. just what will you do with debts, you will not be able to steal gas again, and the military industrial complex will start working bypassing the "central government" and everyone understands this both from our side and from the EU.

[Gradus HuK]

Quote: zbidnev

Thanks for your kind words!!! Six months ago, I had a different opinion and completely different moods. I really respected and was proud of our eastern neighbor. But on the forums, here I was faced with manifestations of great intolerance towards other nations (Ukrainians, Bulbashs, etc.). This indicates a disease of society, aggression towards others. People are different, different thoughts and ideas - all this moves civilization forward. You have a great culture and history, but now what is happening is just awful.

It is right to speak not with you but with us.

[komel]

26 апреля. Луганск. Сообщение пресс-службы Штаба Армии Юго-Востока.

Ultimatum.

— Если до 14 часов вторника 29 апреля, все наши требования, подкрепленные Женевскими соглашениями, не будут выполнены, мы считаем все органы власти, которые находятся в Киеве, антинародными и преступными, и переходим к активным действиям.

Victory will be ours!

Штаб Объединенной армии Юго-Востока.

[sledge]

Ну что сказать. Пафосная патриотическая статья не более того. Видимо автору очень хотелось продемонстрировать свой патриотизм. Но НЕ ЫСЁ ТАК ПРОСТО КАК КАЖЕТСЯ! Автору неплохо было бы почитать Хазина Григорьева и др. Да и вообще поглубже изучить причины тех процессов что происходят сегодня на Украине.

[sledge]

Ну что сказать. Пафосная патриотическая статья не более того. Видимо автору очень хотелось продемонстрировать свой патриотизм. Но НЕ ЫСЁ ТАК ПРОСТО КАК КАЖЕТСЯ! Автору неплохо было бы почитать Хазина Григорьева и др. Да и вообще поглубже изучить причины тех процессов что происходят сегодня на Украине.

[51064]

Между тем РИА новости опубликовала часть "веселых" картинок вокруг Славянска

[bubnovitnik]

SOS. SOS. Извените комментаторы! О чём Вы пишите, и что комментируете?!
Вам не кажется что Вы далеки от реальности!
Надо РОССИЮ от грязи, от нападок защищать, а не демагогию разводить!
P.S. Это моё личное мнение(я пенсионер)

[Ross]

Quote: zbidnev

I have no hatred. I have my own opinion, I defend him, I do not insult anyone. If I’m wrong, I can prove it with reason. I don’t even know what it is. I have no hatred for any nation. It may have been circled - the result of an information war. Or maybe they also do not favor you with the truth. I don’t want to fight, many here prefer to decide everything by force. But in the world it so happened that there is always another force in force. And this must be remembered by all. At the expense of the guilty - everyone has a share of guilt, which everyone decides for himself. And history will decide later.

Спасибо за ответ. Я согласен с Вами что нужно во всем спокойно и трезво разбираться. Именно эмоции уводят в никуда. Но есть законы логики, если уметь сортировать информацию, не поддаваться на жареное, то картина вырисовывается для Украины нелицеприятная. Я ничего не имею против украинцев, с детства есть друзья. Но мы никогда, как сейчас на Украине, не делили по национальности друг друга. Заметьте, как нас умудрились стравить. Как так получилось, что псевдо-украинцы, Галичане, сотни лет жившие как холопы Австрийцев и Поляков, заметьте только недавно ставшие украинцами , диктуют Вам свои правила? Я просто призываю задуматься, как так получилось? Те, кто не жил на Украине в славные года Запорожской сечи, не строил с русскими совместную державу, кто не прошел вместе смерть и победы, из среды которых не вышло ни Гоголя ни Шевченко, но кто сегодня диктует всем Вам свои правила. Как такое могло случиться? Кто вбил Вам в голову что украинец это господарь, а русский раб??? Это же сознание холопа, которого барин повысил до надсмотрщика.
Я не хочу чтобы Вы воспринимали эти слова пропагандой, на самом деле это вопросы для Вашей души. Каким дурманом американцы смогли так обмануть украинцев, чтобы стравить нас друг с другом, ЦРУ назвала саму операцию (еще в конце 2013!) Чечня на Днепре. Вот о чем нужно задуматься, а не о оккупации Россией Украины, которая может быть только в воспаленном мозгу Ваших правителей. Потому что они знают, что придется за все отвечать.

[nelav1951]

ross-респект.Лучше не скажешь.

[gammipapa]

Аптимист автор-->автор-->автор , мы по быстренькому говорит всех там переубедим и перевоспитаем кто зомбирован .
Да их там легион и перевоспитываться они ни за что не хотят ,никакие доводы не переубедят . Им 20 лет за американские деньги втирали ненависть , основная масса просто пропитана ей ,а мы всех по быстренькому переубедим -фантастика .
Когда разбили немцев в 45г и наши деды ходили по улицам Германии то воздух был просто пропитан ненавистью немцев к русским (дед мой так и рассказывал ) . Не встречал говорит антифашистов то . Оглядывались говорит каждому ребенку .
От себя еще скажу ,что частенько на форумах по работе последние 10 лет схватывались с украинцами .Вроде спокойные простые трудяги ,а как только заходит разговор о политике ,так мы тут и рабы , они в отличии от нас знают все , все сделают правильно ,только бы мы не мешали им рай свой строить .

[DNR]

Население Украины - около 50 млн.
Самообороны Юго-Востока - сколько ?
2000, 3000, 50000, 500000 ? Это меньше (или около) одного процента.

Далее цитата: "Повторю – российская армия идет спасать Украину, а не воевать с ней. Точка."

Объясните это остальным 49 000 000 (или хотя бы 25 000 000).

Вот когда объясним, или сами поймут - вот тогда можно будет идти и спасать.

[Tais34]

Quote: zbidnev

Who are Bandera? I have not seen them. Where are they? I did not compose these verses, and I do not quote them here. And which brothers on the border are rattling weapons? And yes it’s brotherly, good kinship!

А мобилизацию кто объявляет против России? Кто устраивает "культурное мероприятие" в Киеве, сажает людей в клетку, обвешивает эту клетку российскими флагами и пишет "Осторожно, оккупанты"? Кто извиняется, " простите, что на русском"? У вас американцы по майдану разгуливали, как у себя дома, а вы их не заметили? Вам не нравятся наши войска на границе? А иностранные наемники, стреляющие у вас в стране, нравятся? Вы бы действительно у себя разобрались, и определились: кто друг, а кто- враг. А уж потом про родственные отношения говорили.

[tokin1959]

"нас пытаются втянуть в войну с Украиной"
"нас провоцируют"
не надо на это поддаваться

в 1941 году тоже была установка - не поддаваться на Германские провокации.
чем это кончилось - все знают.

[nelav1951]

В общем вопрос простой.Кто за свободную Украину.А кто за колонию америки.

[Curbstone xnumx]

Легко конечно судить со стороны. России конечно было бы выгодно просто переждать до полнейшего развала украинской экономики. Тогда можно было бы практически без жертв присоединить интересующие территории. Но проблема в том, что Украина уже 4й месяц как банкрот, но благодаря стараниям своих западно-европейских хозяев исскуственно удерживается от развала. Фактически Украина в ее прежнем виде до майдана-2014, уже не существует.

[Curbstone xnumx]

Легко конечно судить со стороны. России конечно было бы выгодно просто переждать до полнейшего развала украинской экономики. Тогда можно было бы практически без жертв присоединить интересующие территории. Но проблема в том, что Украина уже 4й месяц как банкрот, но благодаря стараниям своих западно-европейских хозяев исскуственно удерживается от развала. Фактически Украины в ее прежнем виде до майдана-2014, уже не существует.

[Curbstone xnumx]

Легко конечно судить со стороны. России конечно было бы выгодно просто переждать до полнейшего развала украинской экономики. Тогда можно было бы практически без жертв присоединить интересующие территории. Но проблема в том, что Украина уже 4й месяц как банкрот, но благодаря стараниям своих западно-европейских хозяев исскуственно удерживается от развала. И будет удерживаться до последнего, по принципу "як не мені, то нікому". Фактически Украины в ее прежнем виде до майдана-2014, уже не существует.

[Curbstone xnumx]

Легко конечно судить со стороны. России конечно было бы выгодно просто переждать до полнейшего развала украинской экономики. Тогда можно было бы практически без жертв присоединить интересующие территории. Но проблема в том, что Украина уже 4й месяц как банкрот, но благодаря стараниям своих западно-европейских хозяев исскуственно удерживается от развала. И будет удерживаться до последнего, по принципу "як не мені, то нікому". Фактически Украины в ее прежнем виде до майдана-2014, уже не существует.

[Curbstone xnumx]

Легко конечно судить со стороны. России конечно было бы выгодно просто переждать до полнейшего развала украинской экономики. Тогда можно было бы практически без жертв присоединить интересующие территории. Но проблема в том, что Украина уже 4й месяц как банкрот, но благодаря стараниям своих западно-европейских хозяев исскуственно удерживается от развала. И будет удерживаться до последнего, по принципу "як не мені, то нікому". Фактически Украины в ее прежнем виде до майдана-2014, уже не существует.

[sova8]

Так и хочется сказать твои слова да БОгу в уши . А в конце статьи АМинь !

[nomad74]

Quote: zbidnev

Спасибо на добром слове!!! У меня полгода назад было другое мнение и совсем другие настроения. Я действительно очень уважал и гордился нашим восточным соседом. Но на форумах, здесь я столкнулся именно с проявлениями большой нетерпимости к другим нациям (хохлам, бульбашам и т.п.).

А вот это полное вранье! Тут половина форумчан украинцы! Просто мыслят они по - Русски!

[Russian_German]

Quote: svp67

I repeat - the Russian army is going to save Ukraine, and not to fight with it. Point.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that not a dot but a comma. Our army is waiting for 15 percent of the population there, and then in the Southeast regions, and 50% is ready to fight with it, and this is mainly YOUTH ... the mood of the population of Ukraine over the past 20 years has changed dramatically and it’s IMPOSSIBLE not to notice it. ..

Но если прожевать сопли и бросить Юго-Востк и Центр "Украины" на растерзание западным фашистам, то через 10 лет уже 100% будет готово воевать против России, а нашим потомкам нужны эти проблемы? К тому же, эти земли обильно политы кровью наших предков, дедов, прадедов и прапрадедов, которые их освободили от османского ига. Так будет ли справедливым наплевать на кровь пролитую нашими предками (по сути предать их подвиг, их смерть) и отдать всё за здорово живёшь каким-то фашистам, которые палец о палец не ударили, чтобы освободить эти земли, да и свои западные тоже от поляков и турецкого ига? И юг и восток и центр и запад "Украины" освободили РУССКИЕ и никто другой. Это Русские создали то государство, которое сейчас, в настоящее время все называют Украиной. Если я не прав, назовите хоть один город или крепость построенную только "украинцами" или гетмана, который завоевал эти земли у османов.

[tanit]

Ни кто и не кого не бросил. Это я серьезно. А теперь -в шутку -так каждый день российских диверсантов пачками задерживают.

[Lunic]

Quote: W1950

.Днепропетровск сдаст Россию,однозначно.

Днепропетровск и Запорожье еще в советские времена отличались от Донбасса.

[Curbstone xnumx]

Легко конечно судить со стороны. России конечно было бы выгодно просто переждать до полнейшего развала украинской экономики. Тогда можно было бы практически без жертв присоединить интересующие территории. Но проблема в том, что Украина уже 4й месяц как банкрот, но благодаря стараниям своих западно-европейских хозяев исскуственно удерживается от развала. И будет удерживаться до последнего, по принципу "як не мені, то нікому". Фактически Украины в ее прежнем виде до майдана-2014, уже не существует.

[andj61]

Quote: Curbstone 24

проблема в том, что Украина уже 4й месяц как банкрот, но благодаря стараниям своих западно-европейских хозяев исскуственно удерживается от развала.

Самое плохое начнется в конце лета: топливо, запасенное на посевную, сожгла армия, у народа денег нет и не предвидится, Запад и не думает помогать, а Россия помогать пышущему на нее злобой государству уже отказалась. Над страной висит угроза всеобщего обвала и голода.

[siberalt]

Свои земли вернуть не проблема. А что потом с ними делать. Там же тоже люди живут. Нам нужно вменяемое соседнее государство ориентированное на русский мир, а не колония для исправления на казенных харчах. Если получится независимая Новороссия - это уже победа в мировом устройстве. А там по цепочке и на Балканы перекинется.
Тут бы с Крымом опыт наработать. Цыплят по осени считают. Как то так.

[d-shvets]

Quote: zbidnev

We do not want to fight with you - this is cultivated by you, carefully read the comments on the forum, you can understand.

Уважаемый zbidnev! Почему же тогда на Украине с марта месяца не слазят слова - война, агрессоры? Вы видели в России где то мобилизацию? В России отменили дембель? Где то в России солдаты дают интервью в которых говорят что готовы воевать с братским народом? Вы можете представить что в московском метро будет акция, восхваленная в укрСМИ - "типичный "? А вы пышаетесь тем что унижаете россиян.

Покажите где культивируемая с нашей стороны ненависть?? Да есть злоба за то что Украины такой которой она была хотя бы пол года назад больше нету. Появилось какое то новое агрессивно настроенное государство в котором совещание руководства проводят дяди прилетающие из США, где почти все претенденты на "типо" выборы готовят свои карманные армии для борьбы с какими то ями. А уж под я можно записать любого кто против "нас".

Вы же намекали на познания в агитации. Вот и посмотрите на Украинские каналы и на Российские и не надо быть семи пядей во лбу чтобы понять что Вас натаскивают на войну, а у нас пока только оправдываются за то что мы можем сделать в случае провокации с вашей стороны.

И мне лично обидно за "типо силовика" который будучи на майдане так заигрался что не понял что произошел переворот и в чьих интересах. Еще признайся что в безоружных коллег втихоря постреливал.

[andj61]

Этот zbidnev, судя по всему, сам СОВЕРШЕННО с другой стороны. Если это не "боец невидимого электронного фронта", то наверняка боец правого сектора или самообороны майдана, один из тех, кто выступал против проворовавшейся власти Януковича, тех, кто победив эту власть, даже не поняли, что их уже и в извращенной форме по полной программе отымели. Отымели и подсунули врага - Россию.