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Russian recruits will go to the army with electronic cards

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From this year on, all Russian draftees will serve for the first time, having personal electronic cards in their hands. The documents will contain biographical data of young people, their medical indications and information about military professional training.




According to the Russian newspaper, the Defense Ministry noted that the new information base will simplify the appointment of recruits to various positions, and after demobilization, the soldiers will streamline their military registration in military enlistment offices, reports Russia Today.

"A plastic document with a built-in memory microchip and a maximum degree of protection will be used in various automated systems for military use, both during military service and when discharged to the reserve," the defense department told the publication.

To issue electronic cards, all recruits were obliged to hand in fingerprints to the commissariat. Previously, only future cadets and contract soldiers were required to undergo a similar procedure. It is reported that new electronic documents will, for example, be very useful to doctors to identify unconscious soldiers.

Until mid-July this year, thousands of young people will join the ranks of 154. The call will affect all regions of Russia with the exception of the Crimea and Sevastopol. There is a deferment until the spring of next year. According to Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, until the end of 2016, Crimeans will serve only in the garrisons of the peninsula, and later on throughout Russia.
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  1. predator.3
    predator.3 April 24 2014 08: 15
    +12
    I wonder who issues these cards? VISA again or master card? and where is all the data stored? request
    1. Baikal
      Baikal April 24 2014 08: 42
      +5
      Read carefully wink These are personal cards with biometric and other data.
      As for monetary transactions, separate bank cards will be issued. For example, in Tatarstan VTB-24 will be the operator. As in other areas - you can search if you want.

      As for data storage with UEC, then:
      Colonel Yaroslav Roshchupkin, head of the press service of the Central Military District, noted that the formation of personal data will be carried out on special complexes of automation equipment.
    2. Vtel
      Vtel April 24 2014 08: 55
      +3
      UEC is a European project, copy all without a name and number, and then the data will either be on the collective farm market or in Switzerland. In short, the Global World Project from kosher.
      1. Baikal
        Baikal April 24 2014 09: 21
        +4
        You might think that earlier in the military enlistment offices they only asked for the name laughing
      2. urganov
        urganov April 24 2014 09: 37
        +10
        You are wrong dear, "JSC NIIME and Mikron - Research Institute of Microelectronics, Zelenograd. Production of contactless tickets and smart cards, chips for biopassports and universal electronic cards and smart codes, microcircuits, memory cards and memory cells based on new physical and technological principles . "
        And believe me, everything is domestic, no west. I am in some way a participant and I know the technology.
        1. mamont5
          mamont5 April 24 2014 10: 05
          -1
          Quote: urganov
          And believe me, everything is domestic, no west. I am in some way a participant and I know the technology.


          And it pleases. More and more of our domestic equipment.
      3. Hon
        Hon April 24 2014 10: 25
        0
        Quote: Vtel
        UEC is a European project, copy all without a name and number, and then the data will either be on the collective farm market or in Switzerland. In short, the Global World Project from kosher.

        It is just convenient, saves a lot of time, no need to mess with pieces of paper, which are also constantly lost.
        Very damn in Switzerland, the data of our draftees is interesting
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  2. rugor
    rugor April 24 2014 08: 17
    +16
    Medvedev could not introduce an electronic identity card in a civilian, and Shoigu without any noise introduced him into the army. So judge the effectiveness of managers by the results of work.

    In general, I often hear about the introduction of certain innovations in the army, without first talking about intention.
    1. gandalf
      gandalf April 24 2014 08: 22
      +4
      This is not "management efficiency" - this is patriotism on the part of Shoigu and sabotage on the part of the adherent of the 5th column of Medved ...

      I think so ... (c) wink
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet April 24 2014 09: 34
        0
        Quote: gandalf
        wrecking by an adherent of the 5th column of the Bear ...

        Smells like 37th year ...
        1. Poppy
          Poppy April 24 2014 09: 43
          +1
          unfortunately not, although it’s time for a long time already
  3. Ev58
    Ev58 April 24 2014 08: 23
    +2
    A plastic card during real hostilities is the same as the thought of an inexperienced driver about how not to damage his car. This idea distracts from the main point and is not justified from any point of view, and plastic is also unreliable.
    1. diff
      diff April 24 2014 09: 34
      +2
      a plastic card, in which case, you can use it as a spoon or open some kind of door ... you can come up with something else drinks
      And if she gets to the enemy, will our enemy know everything about the prisoner, or will the card self-destruct?
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 24 2014 09: 38
      0
      Quote: ev58
      This thought distracts from the main point and is not justified from any point of view.

      Justify how a plastic card can distract a fighter during combat operations? Metal personal tokens or stripes with a blood type - also distracting?
      1. Ev58
        Ev58 April 24 2014 11: 00
        +2
        This means that all the information contained in the personal file, to simplify accounting, will be in the microchip of a plastic card. Moreover - all the biometric parameters of the soldier will be entered there, and, of course, the image of his fingerprints. The card will be too informative and unique, which will cause a reasonable fear of losing such a document (and the card, in fact, is a document, a voluminous, very informative document). And do not compare the incomparable: for many centuries, soldiers of the army of all countries lacked stripes with a blood group and tokens, but this did not significantly change anything. Have you seen many tokens that have received catastrophic damage? Still find the tokens of the Second World War. And what will happen to the microchip if it is not affected by a bullet, say, but the electromagnetic field of the radar, RPU, DBK and many other sources to which the electronic components are very sensitive? This whole super-document turns into nothing, an information void and a document void. And from the point of view of security, such initiatives so far are considered unacceptable.
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        2. Hon
          Hon April 24 2014 11: 39
          0
          Quote: ev58
          What will happen to the microchip if it is not affected by a bullet, say, but the electromagnetic field of the radar, RPU, DBK and many other sources to which the electronic components are very sensitive? This whole super-document turns into nothing, an information void and a document void. And from the point of view of security, such initiatives so far are considered unacceptable.

          yes small loss. What is the security damage?
  4. kelevra
    kelevra April 24 2014 08: 29
    +7
    I don’t trust electronics, especially in the army. Now you can pull any information from the Internet, and here, after demobilization, all information will be stored in the military enlistment offices, which means that there will be access from the Internet, and this is the risk of theft of these data by the adversary.
    1. Desert Fox
      Desert Fox April 24 2014 09: 45
      +2
      They want to find out get into contact or classmates ...

      In addition, who said that there will be access from the Internet? To store such data, a separate grid is created using only certified FSTEC and FSB software tools (CPSI) and hardware-software complexes of information protection, using two factor user authentication. Hacking such a grid is only possible with direct access to the data of one of the users. and then you will not get more information management capabilities than you are assigned to your role.

      The ability to hack the Pentagon server in a couple of minutes is only possible in the movies. In practice, such hacks are rare and are mainly carried out by groups of people who basically have their own person inside. From outside, this is only possible if less competent people are responsible for information security. Which lazily tinker with the settings and prevent users from using simple passwords like 123456 and the like.
      If the job of an IS officer is competent and he knows his job, then obtaining classified information is almost impossible. Unless the human factor intervenes in the matter and someone does not sell this information.

      In addition, most of the production of confidential information is mostly in open sources. And only about 10% of the means of espionage.
    2. ultra
      ultra April 24 2014 09: 52
      0
      Quote: kelevra
      I do not trust electronics, especially in the army

      I don’t trust either! Therefore, I submit a proposal to the Moscow Region and the General Staff, to use colored smoke to communicate in the tactical link, and carrier pigeons and mounted couriers in the operational room! And for reconnaissance and adjustment of artillery fireballs! laughing
      1. mamont5
        mamont5 April 24 2014 10: 08
        0
        Quote: ultra
        Therefore, I make a proposal to the Defense Ministry and the General Staff to use colored smoke to communicate in the tactical link,


        You can still flag semaphore. In general, I am sure that with us all electronics will be supplemented by old proven methods.
  5. SAM0SA
    SAM0SA April 24 2014 08: 29
    +3
    Just dragged another manufacturer of energy-saving light bulbs ...
  6. skyil
    skyil April 24 2014 08: 31
    0
    As always, they will introduce it, and then they’ll return it to the roadway 15 times No.
  7. Roman1970
    Roman1970 April 24 2014 08: 32
    0
    My opinion is all toys! It will make some sense when a SINGLE electronic card appears, which replaces all available documents.
    1. Desert Fox
      Desert Fox April 24 2014 09: 27
      +4
      this is such an experiment option. They’ll break in in the army, and then they will take on civilians. Soon we will all go with an electronic passport.

      - Lilu Dalas - multi-passport! winked
  8. yulka2980
    yulka2980 April 24 2014 08: 34
    0
    Honestly, I don’t see much point in this card, but at least microchips do not implant well. winkedAlthough certainly happy that much is being done to restore the army and navy fellow
  9. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich April 24 2014 08: 34
    +4
    If something, in the current government, seems incomprehensible to you, then this is most likely about money.
  10. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 24 2014 08: 47
    -1
    The idea with the cards is good .. (the main thing is not to work out "as always .."))))
  11. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx April 24 2014 08: 53
    +5
    Electronic cards are good. But I would accept with great positive the rejection of a one-year service life and the transition to a year and a half. I do not believe that last year a schoolboy will be able to fully master the military profession and gain the physical form corresponding to his profession. Moreover, every year in the army more and more high-tech solutions. Even motorized riflemen. About air defense, the Navy, etc., I generally keep quiet.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx April 24 2014 09: 07
      +4
      The committee of soldiers' mothers is minus. laughing

      ZY
      At one time he was interested in this organization. All activists have sons in a complete otter from the service.
  12. KOSTYLEV
    KOSTYLEV April 24 2014 08: 59
    +1
    Quote: kelevra
    I don’t trust electronics, especially in the army. Now you can pull any information from the Internet, and here, after demobilization, all information will be stored in the military enlistment offices, which means that there will be access from the Internet, and this is the risk of theft of these data by the adversary.

    I do not think that a conscript soldier is a carrier of mega-secret information, and the rest is all within the confines of the secrecy regime, and believe me, "unnecessary information" will not be given to the enemy unless someone sells it.
  13. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 24 2014 09: 11
    0
    Time does not stand still. Now they are introducing cards. Tomorrow there will be something else, you will not get anywhere - dialectics.
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  15. Nitarius
    Nitarius April 24 2014 09: 15
    +3
    Doubts take that the DATA about the guys, as it were, would NOT REACH UNRELIABLE HANDS!
    HERE AND SNOWDEN ..... SKID SELLED! meant and among OUR there are similar ..
    I do not mind when in our favor! BUT IT IS NOT TO BE AVOIDED -TRAITOR
    1. valersvet
      valersvet April 24 2014 09: 27
      0
      why are you so, about Snowden, a worthy representative of humanity wink
      without it, I would have thought about mattresses that they are full-bodied creatures, eating only fast food and drinking sosa sola, something like that ...
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 24 2014 09: 46
      0
      Quote: Nitarius
      DATA about the guys, as it were, did NOT REACH UNRELIABLE HANDS!

      And what special data will be there? So much data has already been stored about us in various bodies ... in the Military Commissariat, in the State Traffic Safety Inspectorate, in the Tax and District Clinics, etc. etc.
  16. johnsnz
    johnsnz April 24 2014 09: 23
    +6
    Wouldn't it turn out like in Dead Souls? The card was passed through the terminal - the soldier served! laughing Service, estessna, paid! soldier
  17. Russ69
    Russ69 April 24 2014 09: 25
    +2
    What is the general question, this card is for the convenience of work and maintenance of the military and nothing more. All other documents remain ...
  18. Hyperboreas
    Hyperboreas April 24 2014 09: 25
    0
    Quote: johnsnz
    Wouldn't it turn out like in Dead Souls? The card was passed through the terminal - the soldier served! laughing Service, estessna, paid! soldier

    Yes, hardly! After all, it’s possible to turn a warrior as well!
  19. qwertynsan
    qwertynsan April 24 2014 09: 26
    +1
    what are you talking about? those who need to know the size of our army, and so they know it without any cards. And the cards are needed for internal use, I think a good idea!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 24 2014 09: 49
      0
      Quote: qwertynsan
      those who need to know the size of our army, and so they know it without any cards.

      All my life I learned information laughing about our weapons from foreign military magazines!
  20. leo44
    leo44 April 24 2014 09: 27
    +3
    It is reported that the new electronic documents will, for example, be very useful for doctors to identify the military who are unconscious.
    - nonsense! Blood type on the arm, on the token - that's enough! In the Great Patriotic War, people were saved without any cards. And then what - the chip? These cards are a disastrous path to an electronic dictatorship. I'm against. Maybe this is "progress", but there are more disadvantages of real information leakage and its use by the enemy. There are also many fantastic horror movies about robots getting out of control and about the power of machines under the leadership of the evil professor "Ooo". In general, I am against such progress, because I do not consider it progress! And I also think that there may be more people who want to cut it because of this.
  21. Hyperboreas
    Hyperboreas April 24 2014 09: 33
    +1
    Well, firstly, fingerprints were taken and taken from all draftees, without exception, when drafted in the RF Armed Forces. Well, and secondly, the safety of the database and the card itself in the process of its use is of primary concern. A plastic thing is not very reliable and can burn, break, etc. How then to identify a fighter? Yes, and there are geniuses who try to crush them to break, or somehow disable them for their incomprehensible purposes! Fighters conscripts are sometimes just very smart in this regard. I have one genius folded his military card FOURTH !! and wore it in a small pocket which on my belt in my pants I camouflage
  22. Bodrov
    Bodrov April 24 2014 09: 42
    0
    For registration of electronic cards, all recruits were required to submit fingerprints to the commissariat. Previously, only future cadets as well as contract soldiers were required to undergo such a procedure.

    Actually, the fingerprints of all the recruits were taken, at least in the eraser (Moscow distribution point) 3 years ago.
  23. Sochi
    Sochi April 24 2014 09: 42
    +5
    For the army, this is another civilizational breakthrough that can cause cultural shock. In the spring of 2014, the case with a hygienic kit will be received by every Russian draftee at the assembly point of the military registration and enlistment office.

    It includes 18 toiletries: men's two-in-one shower shampoo-gel, toothpaste, shaving gel and aftershave gel, hand cream, washing gel, men's deodorant, hand gel, shaving machine and replaceable blades, foot gel, nail clippers, comb, sewing kit with needles and threads of white, green and black colors. As well as a towel, a set of patches, a folding glass made of silicone with a lid, a hygienic lip balm, a toothbrush, a pocket mirror.
    1. Bodrov
      Bodrov April 24 2014 09: 48
      +4
      That grandfather lucky)))
      1. Poppy
        Poppy April 24 2014 15: 18
        +1
        Well, what kind of grandfathers are they now? serve a year, two calls
    2. Desert Fox
      Desert Fox April 24 2014 10: 12
      0
      Yeah, and then they will receive a pink helmet with rhinestones, an armor vest with a cool print and an inscription like "TU 154, but never one of their own", "A candle in the center" ...
      High platform stockings and boots ...
      wassat

      damn how did I once suffered without this crap ... laughing
    3. Manul
      Manul April 24 2014 11: 33
      0
      Quote: Sochi
      hairbrush,

      laughing Suddenly in the trenches overgrown?
      Maybe this is an officer kit? winked
  24. bulatovvvas
    bulatovvvas April 24 2014 09: 43
    +1
    This is a step towards a global electronic dictatorship in favor of the "golden" billion! How much does this design, development and implementation cost the military budget? This obviously will not help increase the defense capability of the Armed Forces.
    1. Desert Fox
      Desert Fox April 24 2014 10: 24
      0
      such a smart card will cost from about 600 to 1100 rubles. per person. This is the market value of such cards.

      Now look. They plan to call 154 thousand people.
      Take the maximum price of the card 1100 rubles, multiply by 154. We get 169 million rubles. and keep the rollback amount in mind. wink
      1. Hon
        Hon April 24 2014 10: 28
        -1
        Quote: Desert Fox
        such a smart card will cost from about 600 to 1100 rubles. per person. This is the market value of such cards. Now look. They plan to call 154 thousand people. Take the maximum price of the card 1100 rubles, multiply by 154. We get 169 million rubles. and keep the rollback amount in mind.

        And how much will the paper on which this data is recorded cost? In addition, the introduction of electronic accounting can reduce the number of people involved in accounting.
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    2. Bodrov
      Bodrov April 24 2014 13: 27
      +1
      Quote: bulatovvvas
      This is a step towards a global electronic dictatorship in favor of the "golden" billion! How much does this design, development and implementation cost the military budget? This obviously will not help increase the defense capability of the Armed Forces.

      This will help in case of mobilization. Previously, you would have to dig a bunch of archives in the military registration and enlistment office for each person to find their affairs, now you can just read the information from the card. This will speed up the process of mobilization, rid the military enlistment offices of the mountains of waste paper and free the people who were engaged in it.
  25. Grach710
    Grach710 April 24 2014 09: 55
    +1
    Quote: Al_lexx
    Electronic cards are good. But I would accept with great positive the rejection of a one-year service life and the transition to a year and a half. I do not believe that last year a schoolboy will be able to fully master the military profession and gain the physical form corresponding to his profession. Moreover, every year in the army more and more high-tech solutions. Even motorized riflemen. About air defense, the Navy, etc., I generally keep quiet.

    1 year is not enough, and 1,5 is not enough. To return 2 years and return work orders when you do something not so dreary, but now they say they don’t even put glasses on. You look a little easier after that. no need to bring to absurdity, clean up the territory to entrust guest workers.
  26. Frate
    Frate April 24 2014 09: 55
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN
    The idea with the cards is good .. (the main thing is not to work out "as always .."))))

    Of course, "good" ... Where, if not in the army, to test one of the stages of the global chipization of the population. Few people know (and remember) that the Americans launched such a project in Moscow with a small breakdown. In 98, I received a card from the Luzhkov administration. On the plastic there was only the coat of arms of Moscow and not any numbers, letters, etc. signs. But ... there was a chip in the plastic with brief information about me and my wife. Traffic cops got lost when instead of driving license we presented this card (we had the right). It was funny and .. sad - we understood where this was leading. The card allowed using all types of public transport and commuter trains. Then, the experiment subsided, no hype was allowed in the media, but the card continued to operate "by default" until it "died" in the New Year 2000. But the topic continues to develop in various "innocent" forms: "Muscovite card", "Troika" transport card, etc. etc. Unfortunately, this is an irreversible phenomenon, but I don't want to rejoice at this. A few more years, and "one tablet is enough", and Big Daddy will know how much marmalade you eat and how much toilet paper is spent on it.
  27. propolsky
    propolsky April 24 2014 10: 07
    +1
    And we served with personal numbers and the personnel and the drill didn’t beguile anyone. Although the time is different.
  28. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket April 24 2014 10: 11
    0
    Quote: Grach710
    Quote: Al_lexx
    Electronic cards are good. But I would accept with great positive the rejection of a one-year service life and the transition to a year and a half. I do not believe that last year a schoolboy will be able to fully master the military profession and gain the physical form corresponding to his profession. Moreover, every year in the army more and more high-tech solutions. Even motorized riflemen. About air defense, the Navy, etc., I generally keep quiet.

    1 year is not enough, and 1,5 is not enough. To return 2 years and return work orders when you do something not so dreary, but now they say they don’t even put glasses on. You look a little easier after that. no need to bring to absurdity, clean up the territory to entrust guest workers.

    He served two years. Son of the year. If you don’t take revenge on the parade ground, then it’s enough. Fizeau can be tightened in two three months. It all depends on the bati battalion commander. If there was no hazing in their battalion, and in the next on New Year's holidays they even managed to break someone’s jaw, then what is the commander, such is the battalion. True, he served after the university, June 5 diploma, 6 for the national team. Could smear at times, the wife begged. I didn’t. A man should know how foot wraps, sorry, they now have socks, they smell laughing ... But now he himself understands a lot. And the funny thing is that he told me that he used footcloths instead of socks ... And he is more hygienic and durable for a long time, but we can make fun of ...
    1. Hyperboreas
      Hyperboreas April 24 2014 10: 22
      0
      Yes, one year is not enough to train a more or less competent specialist. For a year, you can teach to stupidly run across the field shouting "hurray!" and a machine gun in hand. I'm not talking about the infantry, although there is now enough equipment there. And for example, air defense troops. In addition to the fact that you have to tighten the school curriculum, you still have to teach how to work on the technology of a person who absolutely does not understand anything in it, that is, a dull sequence of pressing buttons. Any emergency situation and God forbid a breakdown and it's all a stupor. In combat conditions, for example, the loss of a tank regiment, or in the case of a nuclear shield - a city or 2 !!!
  29. slovak007
    slovak007 April 24 2014 10: 13
    +1
    Another 501st method of taking money from the population (according to O. Bender).
  30. Cnukep
    Cnukep April 24 2014 10: 24
    +1
    The news did not please, cameras all over the city, telephones spying on their owners, these cards now, but I don’t want to go to the taiga, and where can a man get away from his big brother? request
  31. bulatovvvas
    bulatovvvas April 24 2014 10: 25
    +1
    This is a direct blow to society in general and the army in particular. With global chipization, the army will not help, because will be managed by globalizers from the "golden" billion from one Control Center.
  32. Hyperboreas
    Hyperboreas April 24 2014 10: 36
    -1
    In principle, the idea is not bad, only unfinished. In my opinion, this should be an addition, not a replacement, and execution should be considered. Well, it should be made only on domestic equipment
  33. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS April 24 2014 10: 55
    +2
    I do not trust this CHIP.
  34. dkflbvbh
    dkflbvbh April 24 2014 11: 56
    0
    Another nonsense and a waste of folk money. There is also a program to create a single electronic passport, and this is what needs to be implemented. But let’s write down at least the size of the nose and the left little finger there. How will this crap behave in the field - trenches? And I would also like to see how the doctors will identify the identity of the burned tanker (or someone else)
  35. gammipapa
    gammipapa April 25 2014 00: 14
    0
    I read all the reviews and comments, everyone agreed on how cool electronic cards are, but better chips to the brain right away. What a fine fellow Shoigu, how famously he did everything with conscripts, everyone applaud while standing.
    Even as it became sad, what a fool I am, everyone claps, but I'm not happy, I consider it evil.
    Time will tell .