Creating a federation "Novorossiya"

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RIA News" published a statement by the people's governor of Donetsk, Pavel Gubarev, in which he announced the start of preparations for a referendum on the independence of the "Donetsk people's republic".

“The referendum will raise the issue of the adoption by the people of the independence of the" Donetsk People's Republic ", after which we will be able to proceed with the full formation of our government and government, determine the structure of our economy and leave all the money we earn in the republic. The referendum of the "Donetsk People's Republic" is planned to hold 11 May 2014. Now the process of its preparation begins, ”Gubarev said on his Facebook page.

“We must make this choice with you as soon as possible, because other regions of the southeast want to follow our example. We all want to unite in a new large federal state NOVOROSSIYA, ”added Gubarev.

According to the people's governor, this will enable the republic to act on the international arena as a “full-fledged independent state” and will allow creating its own army.

It is worth noting that 20 on April at a rally in support of federalization in Kharkov sounded similar calls for the proclamation of the so-called Slobozhansky People's Republic. However, as noted INTERFAX.RU, according to the prosecutor of the Kharkiv region Vasyl Sinchuk, such statements contradict the current legislation.

“In accordance with Article 2 of the Basic Law, Ukraine is a unitary state, and its territory within the existing border is complete and inviolable. Therefore, calls for violation of the territorial integrity and immunity of Ukraine, in particular, for federalization and the proclamation of the so-called Slobozhansky People's Republic, which are distributed during mass meetings, are contrary to the law and entail criminal liability, ”the press service of the Kharkiv region prosecutor’s office cites Sinchuk .

The prosecutor urged residents of the Kharkiv region not to succumb to provocations and not to take part in rallies that are held without notifying the authorities and local government.
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  1. +39
    April 23 2014 09: 38
    A referendum will include the issue of people's acceptance of the independence of the "Donetsk People's Republic"


    God help.
    1. +27
      April 23 2014 09: 46
      The prosecutor urged residents of the Kharkiv region not to succumb to provocations and not to take part in rallies that are held without notifying the authorities and local government.
      And silently wait for trips to the socialist camp or Ukrainization in Bandera.
      1. infinite silence ...
        +16
        April 23 2014 10: 13
        source - http://www.e-news.in.ua/news/8176-obratnyy-otschet-vtorzhenie-na-yugo-vostok-nem
        inuemo.html

        Thanks to the patriotic assistance of one of the SBU officers, we became aware of some details of the operation that the Kiev rulers are preparing to conduct against the "rebellious" regions. This is not the first time that an information leak from Kiev has thwarted the junta’s plans. The new plan consists of several stages.

        At the first stage, the forces of the Armed Forces are blocking the "rebellious" areas. Until the end of the week, roadblocks should be installed at all entrances to cities and urban-type settlements, as well as at major highways and intersections, in order to completely paralyze the movement between rebel cities and “seal” the cities themselves for the entry and exit of “rebels” ".

        The second stage involves the complete blocking of the area of ​​the counter-terrorism operation, conducting a total passport check, identifying all foreigners and residents of other regions and detaining them until the circumstances of their stay are clarified

        The third stage is the simultaneous assault of all captured cities (except Donetsk and Lugansk) which are supposed to be taken under control within a few hours. The forces of the "special forces" will be assaulted from the external contour of the city with the support of armored vehicles and helicopters, and the "battles" of the SBU will have to support the "inside" attack.

        There is every reason to believe that the final decision on the timing of the operation will be made during a visit to Kiev by the Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden, whose political support Kiev wants to enlist. (As you know - Biden has already visited)

        An invasion of the Southeast is inevitable? The pursuit of this false power is obvious.
        1. +9
          April 23 2014 10: 22
          Mr. President - The USA brazenly organizes the extermination of the Russian population, spits on all international laws !!! What are we waiting for??? Repetitions of the Syrian version ?????
        2. +3
          April 23 2014 10: 22
          bro it’s not forever to be them, as if power. Russia will support, so this, this power is temporary, soon they won’t become. just hold on.
        3. +7
          April 23 2014 10: 38
          The new plan consists of several stages.

          The plan is generally reasonable! Just do not take into account ...
          .... that the popular resistance movement will not wait for the same when they come to cut the banderlog! Everyone understands that ONLY IN THE UNITY OF THEIR POWER !!!!
          It is also not taken into account that it is not a fact that all the soldiers of the Ukrainian army ... will "lift their pants" to run (like Yesenin for the Komsomol) to carry out the criminal orders of the Banderlog! How many of them, if they do not go over to the side of the rebels, will simply not shoot and literally carry out orders to block the movement of the people!
          It has not been taken into account that Russia is unlikely to calmly look at the implementation of these three stages ... the first and partially the second still ... perhaps they will bear it ... But the third stage ... it is unlikely that we will wait for its beginning. ..a especially - implementation ...
          1. infinite silence ...
            +6
            April 23 2014 11: 07
            To the heroes of the SAWAN!
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        5. +3
          April 23 2014 10: 44
          And where does this infa come from? Now I watch so many different "reliable rumors" that it is already unclear - where is the truth, and where is the "misinformation" ... Moreover, "the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are blocking the" rebellious "areas" - these are the forces that are involved to make it problematic - well, the main routes Still somehow okay, but how do you block the country (steppe) roads? And there are a lot of them between villages and small towns ... and if you can walk through the fields (well, or not to shine - by landing) ... So there are very big doubts about the success of such an operation!
      2. +7
        April 23 2014 10: 19
        a coup d'état has been completed - from that moment all previously adopted laws cease to apply! prosecutor and you studied or bought a diploma ????
      3. 0
        April 23 2014 10: 48
        The post-Soviet prosecutor, in comparison with the Soviet one, is in general something so indecent. And in present-day Ukraine it is time to refer this word "prosecutor" to abusive.
      4. 0
        April 23 2014 10: 48
        wait for trips to the socialist camps or Ukrainization in Bandera.

        Why wait? We must act ... but, having changed our tactics a bit ... from an attack on the forehead, go on to circumvent maneuvers ... and act in stages ....
        According to the prosecutor of the Kharkiv region Vasily Sinchuk, such statements contradict the current legislation.

        And if you announce not the independent state of NOVOROSSIA ... but simply the autonomous republic of NOVOROSSIA as part of Ukraine with broad rights ... this is not SEPARATISM !!!
        And there ... and then reaching the first line, go on to master the second ...
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      6. AVIATOR36662
        0
        April 23 2014 11: 49
        And where was the same prosecutor in February? Did you repeat the Criminal Code? They also managed to get the Mardas, now they are pouring out their "sent" adherence to principle on the working people. But the precedent is already doing its job.
    2. Validator
      +16
      April 23 2014 09: 50

      Banderlog - disgusting mold on the body of the former state-va Ukraine. I hope in Novorossia this mold will be destroyed on the vine
      1. +8
        April 23 2014 09: 55
        Quote: Validator
        Banderlog - disgusting mold on the body of the former state-va Ukraine. I hope in Novorossia this mold will be destroyed on the vine
        stupid fools. How so, they do not know what fascism is! I'm in shock. am Do they really want to experience everything on themselves?
        1. +3
          April 23 2014 10: 54
          Do not hesitate, the girls eventually realized what was being discussed and clarified in their worldview.
          Just what the reporters did, i.e. explained and built an understandable logical chain, DOES NOT DO IT at all, and that’s why the mess in my head.
        2. +3
          April 23 2014 11: 30
          Quote: fif21
          stupid fools. How so, they do not know what fascism is! I'm in shock. am Do you really want to experience everything on yourself?

          yes normal pretty girls. Brains, by the way, are not collapsed. Yes, young, many nuances of white and black do not know yet. But they answered quite boldly.
          Fascism is generally not studied, it would be strange to think that Fascism will be the subject of study. Girls do not support him and his supporters.
          The acts of fascism, they condemn (the phrase does not apply).
          Yes, everything is fine with their heads. I thought the video will show that we have beautiful girls stupid - but no ... There is where to grow up. Another thing is that the textbook of Ukraine is already paired with the media - a very serious tool of stupor.
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      3. infinite silence ...
        +15
        April 23 2014 10: 00
        I hope in Novorossia this mold will be destroyed on the vine


        WITHOUT OPTIONS! Southeast will not live side by side with fascism!
        1. +5
          April 23 2014 10: 13
          New Russia! and immediately submit an application to the Trade Union.
          1. +1
            April 23 2014 10: 41
            Better first in the CSTO!)
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        3. +4
          April 23 2014 10: 13
          RIA Novosti published a statement by the people's governor of Donetsk, Pavel Gubarev
          Friends, I don’t know something, Pavel was released? hi
          1. +3
            April 23 2014 10: 23
            Same question...
            1. infinite silence ...
              +6
              April 23 2014 10: 31
              No ... Katya is speaking on his behalf ... his wife. She now heads the Foreign Ministry of the DPR.
              1. Luzhichanin
                +1
                April 23 2014 14: 21
                so still DNR or Kharkov?
          2. 0
            April 23 2014 10: 49
            The same did not understand this
          3. Luzhichanin
            0
            April 23 2014 14: 20
            Quote: Sid.74
            Friends, I don’t know something, Pavel was released? hi

            either in ria ancestors and simply stupidly confused with the Donetsk leader of the Kharkov leader, or they do it intentionally to show that Gubarev is still alive.
            this is not the first time and not only from ria, even the news24 and those same garbage suffer from release to release.
        4. +2
          April 23 2014 10: 55
          Glory to you Brothers !!!!
          1. infinite silence ...
            +3
            April 23 2014 11: 08
            To the heroes of the SAWAN!
      4. 0
        April 23 2014 11: 05
        The radicalism of youth from impunity for any denial of morality, however aggressive it may be. And ... From the fact that it has become fashionable! There is wine in this and Russia. It is necessary to correct the mistakes of twenty-three years of inaction. Really need a revealing flogging!
    3. +6
      April 23 2014 10: 30
      Thank God with the terminology decided. There are New Russia, Ukraine and the western regions.
    4. +2
      April 23 2014 10: 33
      Freedom to parrots, freedom, freedom. . .

      I think that the United States and Russia have already divided Ukraine.
      After Biden visited Ukraine, it turned out that the main thing for Americans is control over the pipe (well, of course, for deliveries to Europe - as they say nothing personal - GEOPOLITICS), obviously this is a bargaining chip with Russia in exchange for creating some kind of completely independent entity in the Southeast type of federation or republic, it remains only to give this a beautiful wrapper like a referendum.
      By the way, no one will remember the interests of Ukraine. Before burning tires on the Maidan, one had to think about how everything would end, and not yell "who does not jump that m @ rock" and help from the bottom of my heart (which is the most interesting thing in this story) to win freedom on the Maidan for Ukraine. By the way, Europe will keep silent in this case (which may be more important than regular gas supplies to the EU).
      I wrote it interestingly, but I myself think "is it really so n @ poor in politics."
      1. W1950
        +2
        April 23 2014 11: 15
        Dear, did you attend the meeting with Biden, if you approve the main pipe? And according to my mattress covers, you need either a source of constant tension in Ukraine or complete control over the country for its subsequent involvement in NATO.
  2. NIVH
    +2
    April 23 2014 09: 40
    Is Ukraine a de facto federation?
    1. +9
      April 23 2014 09: 42
      As for the federation, I'm not sure, but it definitely fell into two parts.
      1. infinite silence ...
        +9
        April 23 2014 10: 36
        In Western Ukraine, a seismic weapon was invented - "hto do not jump - that rock", during the tests the Crimea broke away and a deep rift passed through the South-East of Ukraine.
    2. 0
      April 23 2014 10: 11
      Quote: NIVH
      Is Ukraine a de facto federation?

      What Ukraine? There hasn’t been one like that since March 14
  3. Fin
    +3
    April 23 2014 09: 41
    published a statement by the people's governor of Donetsk Pavel Gubarev,

    What released him? Or is this wife writing?
    1. 0
      April 23 2014 10: 12
      My first question was the same. I doubt that in the pre-trial detention center there is Internet.
    2. ed65b
      0
      April 23 2014 12: 28
      Quote: Fin
      published a statement by the people's governor of Donetsk Pavel Gubarev,

      What released him? Or is this wife writing?

      I didn’t understand the same from the pre-trial detention center, writes something?
  4. +4
    April 23 2014 09: 41
    published a statement by the people's governor of Donetsk Pavel Gubarev

    Have you already released him?
    1. Validator
      +5
      April 23 2014 09: 52
      Quote: I readNews
      published a statement by the people's governor of Donetsk Pavel Gubarev

      Have you already released him?

      No, his wife writes on his behalf, she’s now the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the DPR
  5. +7
    April 23 2014 09: 42
    Now this process cannot be stopped !! Spring is coming spring road !! Russian spring !!
  6. Ussuriets
    +7
    April 23 2014 09: 43
    Hurry, the time would come when this will happen! Russia and Belarus are with you New Russia! smile
  7. Kodar 75
    +2
    April 23 2014 09: 44
    It’s high time to hold this saving referendum!
  8. zzz
    zzz
    +1
    April 23 2014 09: 44
    Where does Gubarev write from, interesting? Maybe through your lawyer?
  9. +4
    April 23 2014 09: 45
    Great news. DONETSK we are with you. good good good
  10. Orc-xnumx
    +2
    April 23 2014 09: 46
    Or change the constitution, or the Civil War!
  11. +1
    April 23 2014 09: 46
    Who will enlighten about Gubarev?
  12. +5
    April 23 2014 09: 46
    According to the prosecutor of the Kharkiv region Vasily Sinchuk, such statements contradict the current legislation.
    And where was he with his legislation before? PROSECUTOR ON SOAP !!!
    1. +2
      April 23 2014 09: 50
      Quote: Horst78
      PROSECUTOR ON SOAP !!!
      He is a sucker wants to pay Ukrainian debts with the prosecutor’s salary laughing
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  13. +6
    April 23 2014 09: 48
    “We must make this choice with you as soon as possible, because other regions of the southeast want to follow our example. We all want to unite in a new large federal state NOVOROSSIYA, ”added Gubarev.
    ..... if you can do it and do it competently - enter the history of the Russian world forever
    1. avv77
      0
      April 23 2014 17: 30
      New Russia is the blood brother of Russia! History should put everything in its place, no matter how much Obama’s barracks and other European clique would like to ... The idea is right and now you just need to combine the efforts of the regions in a single management of the situation !. Only together!
  14. APS
    +1
    April 23 2014 09: 48
    Donetsk, Lugansk - May 11. Odessa is about!
  15. Tanechka-clever
    +6
    April 23 2014 09: 48
    "to unite into a new large federal state NOVOROSSIYA" is the most correct decision. It remains that all the forces of the southeast, which do not recognize the maydan puppets with their American puppeteers, have united
    1. +1
      April 23 2014 10: 15
      And not just united, but so as to make it clear to everyone (pen, dos, geyrop and other evil spirits) that they came forever, they will not give up their positions, THEY ARE THE ONE PEOPLE!
      1. I am proud of Russia
        0
        April 23 2014 10: 59
        sledge RU Today, 10:15 ↑
        And not just united, but so as to make it clear to everyone (pen, dos, geyrop and other evil spirits) that they came forever, they will not give up their positions, THEY ARE THE ONE PEOPLE!

        So I want everything to work out for them. So that people finally breathe freely and start living in a new republic they themselves have created. To n, the Indians who came to their land rolled out of here and grabbed their old junta herds with them. Let them allocate staff and play at home ... let's see how ordinary American residents would react to this. O. Bamka, in my opinion, would not even live for a month. Because the free carrying of weapons is welcomed ... hi
  16. +3
    April 23 2014 09: 49
    This decision contradicts the laws of Ukraine, but does the Bandera revolt really correspond to them? Although you are a prosecutor, you are stupid like all representatives of the Kiev junta and no one will ask you how the people decide, so it will be! Clear pepper who this "thief in law" was trained (Nuland also tries to say that the "Maidan" seizure and coup is legal).
  17. maxim1
    +3
    April 23 2014 09: 50
    Quote: zzz
    Where does Gubarev write from, interesting? Maybe through your lawyer?

    The possibility of transferring documents from the dungeons always exists.
    The fact of such a single opinion for the southeast and the specific actions associated with it is of great importance.
  18. 0
    April 23 2014 09: 54
    Quote: I readNews
    published a statement by the people's governor of Donetsk Pavel Gubarev

    Have you already released him?


    Indeed, give detailed information about Pavel Gubarev!
    It would be very interesting.
  19. +1
    April 23 2014 09: 54
    in order to get some kind of more or less effective education, you need to have army and power structures on your side, so far they are verbally moving to the southeast and further home, this is clearly demonstrated by the fact that civilian posts are at checkpoints. Well, a referendum will be held on May 11, then what?
    1. POLE
      +1
      April 23 2014 10: 12
      You are absolutely right. Referendums are needed to confirm or legitimize the event. And the power in the southeast is still dual. All in some kind of unfinished, suspended state. Moreover, it is not clear with Gubarev. I doubt that he could lead from the SBU
  20. Pasus
    +2
    April 23 2014 09: 59
    Tsarev O., Gubarev P. - not much is known about these people, there is no guarantee that these are really popular nominees, besides this, you need to have political will - do they have it?
    Troubled times comrades)
    1. avt
      +1
      April 23 2014 10: 07
      Quote: PASus
      Tsarev O., Gubarev P. - not much is known about these people, there is no guarantee that these are really popular nominees, besides this, you need to have political will - do they have it?
      Troubled times comrades

      Well, that Tsarev, a “people's nominee,” is too much, while he is only being promoted as a sufferer and a guardian, and he is quite a functionary of the “party of regions” and it is because of these that self-organization in the East and South suffers. So in Lugansk, Ivan Ivanovich and Ivan Nikitich, Bolotov and Mozgov have already quarreled. So not everything is so smooth and beautiful in self-defense, but it worries!
  21. +3
    April 23 2014 10: 00
    The people create both borders and the state. But nothing - the state creates the state.
    And after all, the territorial integrity and inviolability of Ukraine are violated.
    1. territorial integrity - Crimea fled to Russia
    2. The immunity of Ukraine-gave the United States.
    Bottom line: the territorial integrity and inviolability of Ukraine - this is not.
    There is no government, no constitution, no power structures. There is nothing.
    There is a junta.
  22. +2
    April 23 2014 10: 04
    Quote: PATTIY
    No government, no constitution, no power structures

    There are no internationally recognized land borders either :-) (Ban Ki-moon witness :-)
  23. +3
    April 23 2014 10: 05
    They do not want to understand in Kiev that the country Ukraine has ceased to exist. The east does not want to feed the infection and accept their rules, as well as their concepts of how and with whom to live. People want to live and work for themselves and their land and as they want. And live with your historical homeland Russia. Without geyropov and bullshit from the usa.
  24. +4
    April 23 2014 10: 06
    This is a real revolution. And revolutions always occur contrary to the laws in force, and there is nothing new in this, and then the people will change the law, because the source of power is the people. Our leadership needs to provide all possible assistance in creating this federation, because this is the way to a bloodless solution to the Ukrainian problem.
    1. +2
      April 23 2014 10: 59
      Quote: Thought Giant
      This is a real revolution. And revolutions always occur contrary to the laws in force, and there is nothing new in this, and then the people will change the law, because the source of power is the people

      The revolution involves a change in the social system, and in Ukraine it was still oligarchic capitalism, and it remained. So this is a pure coup when one of the kodla swindlers in power replaced another.
  25. +3
    April 23 2014 10: 09
    Creating a federation "Novorossiya"
    The creation of such a federation will allow residents of southeastern Ukraine to receive guarantees of their safety from representatives of the "Wild West". Good luck New Russia! hi
  26. Arh
    0
    April 23 2014 10: 21
    Go ahead guys !!!)))
  27. I_VOIN_I
    0
    April 23 2014 10: 23
    In accordance with article 2 of the Basic Law. Mmm, but the constitution does not say that the only source of power is the PEOPLE?
  28. lenussicbk.ru
    0
    April 23 2014 10: 23
    "According to the prosecutor of the Kharkiv region Vasily Sinchuk, such statements contradict the current legislation." everything once contradicted the law, that's why it is the law to change
  29. Green
    +1
    April 23 2014 10: 27
    Good luck to them !!!
  30. Alexey N
    0
    April 23 2014 10: 29
    Finish out in Ukrainian legality, wait for punishers from Kiev am How much you can hollow in one gate! At our gate !!! It is time to separate from fascist Ukraine. The faster the better. And they planned two referenda sad They would have been given one ...
  31. Alexey N
    0
    April 23 2014 10: 34
    Good luck Southeast! soldier
  32. 0
    April 23 2014 10: 35
    The federalization of the south-west of Ukraine is the only way out of the complete collapse of the country and the beginning of the civil war .. (which Biden and the like really want)
  33. +2
    April 23 2014 10: 36
    The military do not want to help the guys, if the military would have helped everything would be easier, but they are trapped. And the people for some reason do not want. there is no financial independence, they did not take over enterprises and banks, then everything would be different. Everything that is on the South-East must somehow be taken under control. You need interested persons, you need to take away business from the "governors", then they will sing differently.
  34. +1
    April 23 2014 10: 40
    Together we want to unite in a new large federal state NOVOROSSIA ”

    The right way, comrades!
  35. 0
    April 23 2014 10: 42
    NOVOROSSIA is not Ukraine and not Galicia. It's time to get used to it.
  36. +1
    April 23 2014 10: 42
    Quote: Validator
    Banderlog - disgusting mold on the body of the former state-va Ukraine. I hope in Novorossia this mold will be destroyed on the vine

    Ukrainian statehood does not cause me any respect. Absolutely. Perhaps not everyone understands this, but the state is engaged in propaganda among its population of the culture that is beneficial to it. That is, by what and how the state does with its citizens, how it educates them, one can judge the state and its goals. For example, the United States is engaged in the promotion of American values ​​among Americans. Until recently, Hollywood was the most powerful means of this propaganda. If we watch a dozen traditional Hollywood films of educational and teenage themes, we find out that on average it looks like this:
    there is a protagonist - a teenager whom everyone snoops at school, does not look at him
    the most beautiful girl and stuff. And then he begins to fulfill his duty to America (in camouflage or in a superhero costume - it doesn’t matter) - and changes his social role. There will still be all the most modern and even promising weapons, a commanding father and a star-striped banner fluttering in the wind, against which the protagonist in slow motion strides towards the feat in the name of freedom, democracy and the United States. What do we see in the end? We see a citizen whom the USA wants to receive at the exit, and then to send him to some next Iraq. Because this is exactly what the United States considers important.
    Now to Ukraine. The horror is that the state of Ukraine also conducted systematic state activities to educate young people. And based on what they did, we can judge the strategic state goals of Ukraine. And what came of it? For a long time I tried to find some even more or less decent, scientific term that could be called the result of Ukrainian patriotic education. But all that I have succeeded in is “stubborn”. As a result of Ukrainian patriotic education, the stubborn are obtained. Absolutely insane people with a destroyed cognitive and reflective mechanism, grazing on the landscape from nonexistent facts and in the atmosphere of delusional ideological constructions. The problem is that such stubborn consciousness is absolutely incompatible with any positive creative activity. Everything that the patriot of the current Ukrainian state does is unviable and does not work.
    And if everything the Russians do, it looks like a Kalashnikov assault rifle,
    whatever the Ukrainian patriots do, it necessarily ends with the Maidan.
    1. 0
      April 23 2014 11: 22
      And the children growing up in a pseudo-country,
      Which God does not mean, taught
      About her fables. Maybe quite
      Even for their efforts, “excellent” will receive
      .
      And they will meekly believe lies
      What adults imposed on them in the guise.
      With his own - slip a pig like that!
      More maneuvers have not yet been seen.
      .
      And if you have seen, forgotten a long time.
      But this one is the newest, concocted famously,
      Hit the crown like evil wine
      Bringing contention and hype with him
      .
      Remember for a long time. Already risen
      And the generation sets off
      To which anti-Russian anger
      Inspired from the diapers, like a creed.
      .
      Already a new tribe on this yeast
      It grows, getting used to lies from infancy.
      When the false kingdom falls, there will be dust
      So bitter is his that no means are found,
      .
      Oh, it doesn’t take a long time to sweeten.
      Take a look, the tree has been eaten by worms:
      It was planted not to feed us,
      But greedy leaders are insatiable womb.
      .
      European is stinking our hole
      Vicious clans succeed each other.
      So eat, worms, do not mind the good,
      But I feel sorry for the children involved in the deception.

      Irina Dubrovskaya
  37. DPN
    +2
    April 23 2014 10: 47
    Only after the population of the southeast ceases to surrender their national governors of the Kiev government, and to learn how to defend their own, it will be possible to talk about people's republics. Otherwise, it's all just chatter. Now many regret about the USSR, and for the collapse of one shot at the white house. The same thing is happening in Ukraine.
  38. 0
    April 23 2014 10: 52
    Also did not understand this:
    “The referendum will raise the issue of the adoption by the people of the independence of the" Donetsk People's Republic ", after which we will be able to proceed with the full formation of our government and government, determine the structure of our economy and leave all the money we earn in the republic. The referendum of the "Donetsk People's Republic" is planned to hold 11 May 2014. Now the process of its preparation begins, ”Gubarev said on his Facebook page.

    And what does Catherine have to do with it? Then they would write correctly, otherwise mislead people ...
  39. kelevra
    0
    April 23 2014 10: 56
    God and Russia are with you!
  40. 0
    April 23 2014 10: 59
    not take part in rallies that are held without notice to authorities and local self-government.

    Given that the authorities lick the relevant authorities of the Nazis and Amers, and they themselves have illegally seized this power, the statement of the prosecutor looks like a squeak of blind down ..
  41. 0
    April 23 2014 11: 27
    In any case, so that they do not decide, these are our people, and God forbid that Russia grows NEW RUSSIA !!!
  42. 0
    April 23 2014 11: 28
    Gubarev in Kiev, in the dungeons of the Security Service of Ukraine for the second month now. He can’t send anything from there. This is some kind of provocation.
  43. +6
    April 23 2014 11: 30
    Quote: Athenogen
    A referendum will include the issue of people's acceptance of the independence of the "Donetsk People's Republic"


    God help.

    The Republic of New Russia to the Customs Union!
    1. 0
      April 23 2014 15: 19
      Thank! Serious job. I would like that it was so. The coat of arms and flag compare favorably with the Austrian yolk.
  44. 0
    April 23 2014 11: 32
    As the smell of fried, so the constitution was remembered. Apparently, they think that we will violate it a little, but will not let others. Some kindergarten. They started to break, so now you have to eat hot.
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  47. +3
    April 23 2014 11: 37
    None of this will come of it. In the Donbass, how many cities like revolted? Why is there no single guide? Why is there no single policy? And then some for joining Russia, others for New Russia, and others for the federalization of Ukraine. What do they want? So as not to touch them? I would have withdrawn troops on the site of the junta, held a referendum and everything would have died out. Because loud statements about referenda in a particular region are populist statements. Who will create the lists if the authorities cover the base as in the Crimea, well, let's say that in Donetsk and Lugansk, those from the last elections have been preserved and will follow the example of the Crimea and will rule during the presentation of documents. But who will carry the ballots on the villages and villages, the cities? How do they plan to do this? If the area is teeming with troops, Bandera and other rabbits. Yes, they will not reach the polling stations or return from them. Who will protect all this? If the police obey the orders of Kiev, and their Central Election Commissions and regional councils, the city councils do not want to intervene and stand aside, and most look into Kiev’s mouth. The army units (deployed in the regions) are also on the side of Kiev, otherwise it would be different if we saw on the barricades on the barricades a diverse civilian crowd, but military units of the police and military. All these referenda are nonsense, nothing will come of it.
    I wholeheartedly for joining Donbass to Russia, I was born, studied in Slavyansk, I have relatives and graves of my parents there. But you need to face the truth from the situation that is being observed now nothing will come of it. If Kiev moves its troops, then all these uprisings will be crushed, and they will start from my city for demonstration. From the dungeons of the Security Service of Ukraine (or from where) it is easy to manage and throw slogans (I’m sitting here, I press the keys, and slogans and declarations are no worse), but to bring them to life?
    What is this rebellion? If there is still no government or law enforcement agencies? Troops freely move along the railroad, reaching roads to Lugansk, but in order to get there you need to cross the Donetsk region - which, like, has risen. And the bodies subordinate to Kiev receive directions without any obstacles (the means of communication are also in the hands of Kiev). And airplanes deliver troops and mercenaries unhindered through the air. Mines, factories work - because they are afraid of losing their jobs. While all this looks like a bloody farce, the last chapter in which has not yet been completed and God forbid that it would not be bloody. Each for his own purpose. The hope that Russia will come and everything will work out is not what we poke around there, no one there to support now. I repeated and repeat that our cheers patriots need to dip their heads in a tub of cold water and cool off (our people are zombified by official propaganda no worse than in Ukraine), there’s nothing to shed their blood for there, and this will not work.
    So when they close the borders, take control of railways and highways, take control of communications, police and army units swear allegiance to the people, a leader will appear who can lead and lead at least 60% of the people, the government (capable of making decisions and understanding what they want and how to do it) it becomes clear what they still want - then you can see. And now the maximum is help with money, information support and weapons (if this is in our interests).
    I repeat the same thing, it was painful and tired of everything already, as if in our country all the problems were over and there was nothing to do.
  48. 0
    April 23 2014 11: 39
    All this is somehow doubtful and incomprehensible, who creates, how they create and extend the referendum, the support of the population is not as great as we would like. We will see - without illusions.
  49. 0
    April 23 2014 11: 59
    And the prosecutor of the Kharkov region, as a protege of the illegal power of the Kiev junta, has no legal and moral right to indicate or order the Kharkiv people what to do! So, the residents of the Kharkov region, following the example of the Donetsk and Luhansk citizens, will make the right choice in favor of federalization! God help you!
  50. +1
    April 23 2014 12: 09
    The task of the State Department is to kill millions of Russians so that they themselves pay for their murder. - Mandalise Rise.

    It is strange that the Maidan people do not understand this. For 23 years they should have grown wiser. But it only gets worse in brain activity.
  51. 0
    April 23 2014 12: 17
    In Ukraine, over all the years of its existence, normal state power has not been able to emerge. It is doubtful that Novorossiya will be able to do this either. So slogans about our own army, etc. are hardly feasible (if we mean a well-armed army and a state with all the attributes of independence). And is this what Donetsk is trying to achieve? We must slowly prepare Western public opinion for the next annexation to Russia.
  52. 0
    April 23 2014 12: 40
    If only all this would end sooner! How tired I am! In my opinion, everything needs to start with the army, with self-defense, and then declare a republic!
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    April 23 2014 13: 14
    good luck in this accomplishment, we need to help them
  54. +1
    April 23 2014 16: 32
    As they say, “everything new is a well-forgotten old.” The same can be said about Novorossiya, which was never an original Ukrainian territory, but was given to them by Lenin. Refer to the fact that these lands belonged to the Kiev princes (direct ancestors of Ukrainians) in 12 -14 centuries is not possible, because this land was never even part of the common Kievan Rus. The first Slavic people to settle in this territory were Russians, the first Slavic language there was also Russian. Therefore, talk that this is supposedly Ukrainian land is without any basis. negative
  55. 0
    April 23 2014 16: 48
    What kind of republic can we talk about? Here on the site a new topic has appeared that Tymoshkenko met with voters in Donetsk. Here's Yuriev's day...
  56. +1
    April 23 2014 19: 00
    Quote: Dr.Faust.Patron
    Quote: siemens7774
    But it only gets worse in brain activity.

    uh...In secret: here is the real video of the beginning of the protests in Ukraine:


    No, well, with your permission, I’ll take it to my place. I’ll try to show the Eurododics their essence. Otherwise, to celebrate, they let their brains go for a walk.
  57. +1
    April 23 2014 21: 24
    The referendum is right. But... Can someone explain: how did P. Gubarev do this if he is in a Kiev pre-trial detention center? Or am I confusing something?