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The military opened fire on residents in Kramatorsk, three were injured

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The military opened fire on residents in Kramatorsk, three were injured



In the city of Kramatorsk, Donetsk region of Ukraine, according to the militia, the combat vehicle of the Ukrainian army assault force opened fire on resistance fighters. According to reports, three people were injured.

As the correspondent of "Russia 24" reports from the scene, they did not even shoot at the militiamen, but at the unarmed local residents, who by car tried to break the convoy headed for the airfield from several BMDs. Having entered into a column, they blocked the road to the closing car. At that moment, the Ukrainian military opened fire. One person was injured in the shoulder, two were injured in the legs. The fighting vehicle broke through towards the airfield, which since Tuesday has been under the control of the Ukrainian military.

Earlier it was reported that in Kramatorsk, local residents blocked a convoy of ten airborne assault vehicles, which was heading for the city from Dnepropetrovsk. With the military began negotiations. Before that, after similar negotiations, the soldiers sent to suppress the speeches of supporters of federalization, went over to the side of the Donetsk side with six armored vehicles.


Psychic attack fighter near Kramatorsk

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  1. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 17 2014 06: 21
    +23
    We need to negotiate with the military. No need to try to take away weapons from the military, for the military to lose weapons - this is a firing squad. Do not threaten war death, otherwise they will be forced to defend themselves. Stop the entire column, not part of the column. Negotiate with the military.

    Nobody wants a civil war, except for the Maydan
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam April 17 2014 06: 46
      +2
      And the bus says People
      smile
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 April 17 2014 06: 59
        +2
        Well, what for shoot at ordinary people? The junta will definitely be judged in The Hague as requested !!! am
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 17 2014 06: 54
      +4
      There they turned the second column of 15 armored vehicles. The column went back to the base near Dnepropetrovsk.
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 17 2014 07: 08
      +1
      That's right, you need to talk to the soldiers, and not yell aggressively at them, as it was in one video. I wonder how they didn't start shooting in that case.
      1. Apostle
        Apostle April 17 2014 09: 27
        0
        Yeah, of course, to talk, you think you came to the village on beaters to kill those who disagree, well, before that they killed a couple of local residents, the business is that, what a shout ...
  2. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 17 2014 06: 21
    +5
    You shouted: "East, rise!"
    They called: “East, don't be silent!
    Fight for freedom and truth! ”...
    Now what ? Are you our executioners? ...
  3. MolGro
    MolGro April 17 2014 06: 24
    +3
    In my opinion these are mercenaries !!!
    Too much like pin dos s, these are afraid of any rustle and shoot all the time !!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 17 2014 07: 11
      0
      Quote: MolGro
      Too much like pin dos

      These will not travel around BMD, not the same style.
  4. ambiorix
    ambiorix April 17 2014 06: 25
    +3
    Attention!!!! Today, a large-scale provocation is planned from the PS and the Junta in Lugansk and Donetsk.

    In these cities, a "spontaneous" meeting of "outraged patriots of Ruins" will take place. For this, students / state employees will be rounded up. The students will be a cover for the Pravosek hiding among them, whom the coordinator of the PS on SE Kvita has already brought under cover to the field. "Outraged students" will pull up to the building of the Luhansk SBU and the Donetsk Regional State Administration, where people are already on their nerves in anticipation of an assault, after which the provocateurs of the SS will organize a "peaceful assault". The goal is to create a "heavenly hundred peaceful students from the SE" and to anger the masses. This is the junta's last chance, given that the CIA plan has failed, the SBU and the army do not want to fight against the people. By Easter, the Commander-in-Chief arrives in Donetsk, who will give the order to the army to clear Kiev of the putschists and the entire Junta can fly to London.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 17 2014 06: 32
      +2
      Quote: ambiorix
      ... By Easter, the Commander-in-Chief arrives in Donetsk, who will give the order to the army to clear Kiev of the putschists and the entire Junta can fly to London.

      Where do you find all this?
  5. wernerwd
    wernerwd April 17 2014 06: 27
    +1
    Zombie Warriors! All the same, after yesterday's disarmament in favor of supporters of federalization, things are not so smooth in this case. I hope no one is killed. If everything happened, as it is written in the article, then it is not surprising that they began to shoot. attacked a convoy carrying out a "combat" mission. They probably didn't even know that the people in the car were unarmed. A complete mess in the country and in the heads of people ... You always have to fight for freedom and shed blood ...
  6. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 17 2014 06: 29
    +6
    Will they really start crushing their people! With maydanutykh become.!
  7. il2.chewie
    il2.chewie April 17 2014 06: 34
    +1
    Yes, just stupid biorobots. Who do you obey ?! You must protect the people and not a handful of fascists in power. How will you look people in the eyes later?
  8. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 17 2014 06: 42
    +3
    Yes, in this case, civilians are to blame for themselves. And on the account of the Maidan, one line is enough over the heads of weapons on captured equipment. Because KPVT has a very convincing sound. In general, agitation, agitation, and again agitation. Tell how much everyone owes to Western banks and in general in life.
  9. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 17 2014 07: 00
    +1
    Quote: Zomanus
    Because KPVT has a very convincing sound.

    I agree, power! Not very accurate, but reliable and lethal.
  10. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 17 2014 07: 10
    +1
    It seems that Turchynov is a baron and declared war on his own people. Oh, and do not appreciate Donbass.
    1. Walk
      Walk April 17 2014 14: 17
      0
      Yeah. Barin pacifies the unbridled slaves. Straight Rzeczpospolita 18th century. Or maybe hang that master by the bells?
  11. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 17 2014 07: 13
    0
    Quote: Sid.74
    Well, what for shoot at ordinary people? The junta will definitely be judged in The Hague as requested !!!


    May they not be judged there. The Hague is, first of all, Europe with the same double standards with regard to human rights. Remember the same Milosevic. Until the Ukrainians themselves get the junta topple out of the country, nothing will happen. It will be more accurate, but only worse.
    And to the statement against the seizure of weapons from the military I join 100%. You can't take a machine gun from soldiers, especially when they are organized. With them then any authority will ask for the loss of weapons.
  12. ken
    ken April 17 2014 07: 17
    +3
    You need to run the Kiev junta before it's too late!
    1. Humpty
      Humpty April 17 2014 07: 22
      +1
      ken RU

      Tote needs to be organized. The thing will go.
  13. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf April 17 2014 07: 18
    +3
    This is all the beginning of a big provocation!
    The junta must either force the locals to use weapons, or provoke the actions of Russia.
    So far they have not succeeded.
    They are silent at the UN, because there are buttocks. They need to report back and get new texts.
    All this One big European conspiracy. And the bargaining chip in it is the people of Ukraine.
    That is why no one hears about the people, about what is with them, how they are there now. Everybody talks only about "bad" Russia and about Political steps.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda April 17 2014 07: 30
      +1
      But who would argue. There is one task - to tear the people of Ukraine to pieces, and make Russia an enemy. Who is to blame and what to do...
      1. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf April 17 2014 07: 36
        +1
        Barakuda
        Who is to blame and what to do...

        Valery! hi
        I think who is to blame, then it will be necessary to understand.
        Now in the west of Ukraine, you need to be in full swing!
        It can strengthen the contingent in the Ministry of Natural Resources, start joint exercises with anyone (who else remained with us ... with the Old Man).
        Maybe this will affect the fact that Kiev, tail-tailing - the junta is generally soggy - will begin to pull troops from the southeast closer to itself.
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  14. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 17 2014 07: 19
    0
    Looked at the psychic attack, so what? At school, I watched the drone of a Tu-95 from the window every day, the MiG-29 units flew overhead, regular claps at supersonic. It was even fun.
    1. BYV
      BYV April 17 2014 10: 24
      0
      I have no doubt that
      Quote: Barracuda
      It was even fun.
      however there is a slight difference. Then you just watched, and now with good reason you can expect a missile bomb attack. Now imagine how civilians feel, given the fact that everyone remembers Yugoslavia.
  15. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 17 2014 07: 23
    +1
    Quote: Sith Lord
    There they turned the second column of 15 armored vehicles. The column went back to the base near Dnepropetrovsk.


    Glory to this people hi I am deeply convinced that they will not be able to go against a column of military equipment in any ovsky city. Moreover, double respect that the column was turned without loss on both sides. This is the difference between the wisdom of the common people in spite of the moronic decisions of the maydanutyh.
  16. anfil
    anfil April 17 2014 07: 24
    0
    The Resistance is at a critical point in its development and (it is time for Donetsk and Lugansk to create a single Resistance headquarters) on April 10 and 11, i.e. a week ago, it is confirmed that the Resistance will not actively attack, it will switch to passive defensive tactics, and they will continue to “ipat mumu”, then, consider it, it’s fucking.

    The traveler reports very alarming information:
    "In connection with the shameful failure of the so-called" anti-terrorist operation "and the extreme discontent of Mr. Payette, the" hawks "who are now behind the scenes in Kiev are rushing about. And in the dying horror even a hamster is dangerous. in people, even “pretending to be unarmed,” dissenters are threatened with “new Maidan” and “roll-call repression.” Military units are castling in the same haste, units formed in the west of Ruins are being transferred to defend Kiev, recruits from the south and from the center are sent to the east.
    Footnote: http: //www.imperiya.by/news.html? Id = 132769
  17. Wedmak
    Wedmak April 17 2014 07: 27
    +1
    Psychic attack fighter near Kramatorsk

    And everyone stands quietly smoking ...
    And people need to be more careful, provocations have begun, there are people killed. Do not under any circumstances attack the military, do not demand weapons from them, do not seize military units. Only negotiations! Now the SBU will do everything to unleash a bloody showdown with the transition to a civil war. Although I do not understand for what purpose, the people themselves will then hang on the rack. Or do they think they will have time to go to London? So no one is waiting for them there either.
  18. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 17 2014 07: 34
    +2
    And most of all I liked the video with the psychic attack of a two-keel fighter of people at a piece of iron near Kramatorsk. Rather, I liked not the imitation of the attack itself, but the reaction of ordinary PEACE CITIZENS hi
    The people were standing there. Nobody scatters, there is no panic as a phenomenon. The man smoked a cigarette, talked on his mobile, and he didn't care)) This is against yesterday's news about the flight over our SU-24 of the American destroyer Cole, where after that 27 sailors wrote their resignation reports, and the rest went to a psychologist.
    SLAVS CANNOT BE VICTORY soldier
  19. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 17 2014 07: 43
    0
    Quote: Corsair0304
    SLAVS CANNOT BE VICTORY

    The main thing is not to overpersuade! And then it will start again - Paris, Berlin. The French at least remember where the "bistro" came from. The hussars were not asked why 70% of the champagne was supplied to Russia? and the governors and governesses were - Germans and phrases.
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf April 17 2014 09: 12
      0
      Barakuda
      .... and the tutors and governesses were-Germans and frazuzy.

      And then I think where the wind comes from!
      And it's just the slaves (EU) rebelled against the Masters!
      And then talk - democracy, freedom of religion!
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  20. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf April 17 2014 07: 44
    0
    On the one hand, the people are few, how to say it .... has become more serious. The soldier is a soldier. And if they listened to them from the military units of the SE, agreed ... then it does not roll with the western units!
    Without the support of units with SE, it will be hard, and very hard.
    Yesterday, the statements "We are not at war with the people!" enough for the eyes.
    But today, as you can see, this practically does not mean anything! If the Westerners begin to peck, there are no guarantees that the SE units will intervene - no!
    It's time to remember 1918 and start sending agitators in parts! Need protection! Otherwise, this incident is not the last!
  21. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 17 2014 07: 58
    0
    Quote: Dr.Faust.Patron
    The military has no alternative

    Yes, half of the staff have no idea what they are doing there. All families took some kind of oath, they have an order, they don't want to lose their jobs. And there is no Internet in the APC. And you can't watch TV in Ukraine.
  22. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob April 17 2014 08: 08
    +1
    In a democratic Ukraine, they are now shooting for traffic violations. And there is no martial law, everything is done at the request of Obama.
  23. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 17 2014 08: 10
    0
    Quote: Corsair0304
    The people were standing there. Nobody scatters, there is no panic as a phenomenon. The man smoked a cigarette, talked on his mobile, and did not care


    So everyone is familiar there, they used to fly there regularly. I myself climbed the cabins there as a child (while our fathers drank 100 grams) there were SU-7b, and I don't remember any other dryers. In Kramatorsk. there by the way at NKMZ (20 thousand personnel) walking excavators were made. and KZTS exported metal-cutting machines to 15 countries of the world. There were times ...
  24. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv April 17 2014 08: 53
    +3
    This BMD before that shot at the people?
    No.
    Was this BMD going to attack the people?
    No.
    This BMD did not want to fight with the locals, but also did not want to switch to its side.
    Yes.
    GOD is their judge, of course, but they were not plotting anything wrong at that moment.

    So was nafuya provoking the military by driving a wedge between cars and cutting off BMD from the rest?
    The guys were defending themselves.
    We also had similar situations.
    Of course, they went too far with firing in this particular case, since they were clearly on the platoon, and the experience in such cases was zero.

    I am an opponent of the Maidan, but ... the militia also needs to think what they are doing.
    Now it is not clear what in the thoughts of those fighters who were in that BMD and on whose side they will be.
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf April 17 2014 09: 18
      +2
      Aleks tv
      So was nafuya provoking the military by driving a wedge between cars and cutting off BMD from the rest?

      I agree. It's like sitting on a hedgehog with a bare ass, and then blaming him for aggression on your ass!
      If you wanted to stop, you had to block the road along with non-passenger cars. And so, how the hooligans behaved - no worse than truckers in 90 they extinguished
      "Hey stop, get out, the car and the goods are ours!"
    2. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf April 17 2014 09: 18
      0
      Aleks tv
      So was nafuya provoking the military by driving a wedge between cars and cutting off BMD from the rest?

      I agree. It's like sitting on a hedgehog with a bare ass, and then blaming him for aggression on your ass!
      If you wanted to stop, you had to block the road along with non-passenger cars. And so, how the hooligans behaved - no worse than truckers in 90 they extinguished
      "Hey stop, get out, the car and the goods are ours!"
  25. Yozhik
    Yozhik April 17 2014 10: 49
    +2
    Quote: Aleks tv
    This BMD before that shot at the people?
    No.
    Was this BMD going to attack the people?
    No.
    This BMD did not want to fight with the locals, but also did not want to switch to its side.
    Yes.
    GOD is their judge, of course, but they were not plotting anything wrong at that moment.

    So was nafuya provoking the military by driving a wedge between cars and cutting off BMD from the rest?
    The guys were defending themselves.
    We also had similar situations.

    Of course, they went too far with firing in this particular case, since they were clearly on the platoon, and the experience in such cases was zero.

    I am an opponent of the Maidan, but ... the militia also needs to think what they are doing.
    Now it is not clear what in the thoughts of those fighters who were in that BMD and on whose side they will be.

    Absolutely agree!
  26. Walk
    Walk April 17 2014 14: 29
    0
    We need more agitation. Visual and acoustic. Install microphones on some car with good speakers and a woofer and campaign. The unit camps are located near the cities.