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Alexander Dugin. To the heroes of Donetsk and Lugansk: in your hands our future

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Alexander Dugin. To the heroes of Donetsk and Lugansk: in your hands our future



The situation is developing rapidly. Yesterday, the appeals to Yanukovych and the thesis of federalization were revolutionary in the South-East, today it amounts to a surrender. In the South-East, a new political entity is forming - one more Russian State.

Its centers are Donetsk and Lugansk, Kharkov and Odessa are pulling up. And now it is this newly born State that is fighting for its historical the right to live. It is fighting against the junta, against Ukrainian neo-Nazism, and since the West, NATO and Washington are behind them, this State is fighting against the West, NATO and Washington.

Russia is a friend of this nascent statehood, but by no means its customer. Russia helps one of its existence the existence of this state, but it does not crave it. Rather, Moscow understands that after Euromaidan such a State should inevitably arise, and it will arise.

But for Moscow, this is not the same as the Crimea: Moscow understands that its relations with the West are at stake, and Russia, in fact, values ​​them very much. Yes, Putin will not sacrifice this relationship with the West to the sovereignty of his country. But on his own initiative without extreme need, he, too, will not tear them.

If the junta did not make the situation with the base of the Russian fleet in Hopeless Sevastopol, Putin would try his best to avoid reunification with Crimea. Similarly, with the Southeast: Putin will not give him an insult to direct repression of the junta, but if the protests are sluggish, Russia will not send troops on its own initiative.

As I have repeatedly stressed: Russian troops enter the South-East of Ukraine only in response to the introduction of the Ukrainian army there to suppress a popular uprising. No Ukrainian army, no Russian troops. They are ready, but they will not move.

Therefore, now is the time to establish a new State. The correct wording of the Donetsk Republic: The referendum is decided by the Republic as part of Russia or as part of Ukraine.

But in both cases as a subject of the Federation, and in both cases as an independent political unit. The outcome of the vote is clear: the overwhelming majority for Russia. But then you can begin to intensively build the Republic, create a confederation with the Lugansk and Kharkiv Republic, form a new political entity, and you shouldn’t refer to the junta and its right, nor to what was before the junta (that is, Yanukovych).
It is necessary to build the FUTURE, we must, with the support of the people, create our right, we must wake up to political action. Therefore, it is very important SOVEREIGNTY of the South-East and each of the Republics. This is a guarantee of freedom. Sovereignty is based on force (armed forces), political will (the presence of government) and law (created by government). And here we come to the main point: why should a new state of the Southeast necessarily have to be capitalist, bourgeois, liberal-democratic — like the countries of the West or Russia? Is capitalism and democracy an unequivocal good? Shouldn't you ask the people themselves what they choose? Yes, in Russia there is capitalism with an active role of the State. Yes, here is a democracy subordinate to national interests. But do you think all Russians agree with that?

This has been imposed on us and we are adapting to this, and since Putin, by his orientation towards sovereignty, conservatism, patriotism and the centralization of power, makes the situation tolerable, this is generally tolerable. But no one is delighted with capitalism and oligarchy, cultural degeneration, which continues to flourish in Russia (especially in TV entertainment programs) and blindly imitate the West in education and technology. But even let us deal with it ourselves, until sooner or later, we will not express directly what we think about all this. As the South-East rejected what pro-NATO neo-Nazi Kiev is proposing, it may well wait to accept it in order to accept everything Russian.

New Russia is a special cultural and historical, social space.



Why deprive him of the right to put forward and affirm his own identity - Novorossky identity. Our present-day Russia is not entirely Russian, to be honest, more Russian than it was under Gorbachev and Yeltsin, but far from what the majority would have liked.

And perhaps, the experience of Novorossia will be signals to us for cleansing, healing and diving to build a Russian future in Russia itself. What is happening in the South-East of Ukraine now is a unique chance. This is an open horizon of Russian political creativity. We have no right to miss it.

Those who now defend the young Donetsk Republic and who hold the defense in Lugansk are the vanguard of the entire Russian people. All our thoughts and powers, feelings and prayers are now addressed to them. They stand for all of us, for Russia, for Orthodoxy, for honor, for history, for truth. They are building a new and a future. And everyone who is not indifferent to the fate of the Russians should take off together at this critical moment.

Do not believe the negotiators, promises, persuasion, threats and promises. You betray all. In addition to Putin.

But only Putin personally, he is surrounded by different people and different forces. His name can hide behind those who have nothing to do with Russia and its vital interests. Ask the people and listen to your Russian heart. Only the people are carriers of the spirit. Only the depth of the heart of man knows the truth. In the face of death, all this is exposed.

Truth and spirit.
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  1. Colorman
    Colorman April 14 2014 07: 44
    -31%
    Let anything happen, if only there is no war ...
    1. Tersky
      Tersky April 14 2014 07: 45
      +20
      This is exactly the reverse of the pendulum. The aspiration vector is exactly the opposite. The more pressure there is to move the country to the West, the greater will be jet aspiration, given the place where all this happens, that is, the East, where the Russian-speaking population predominates, move it to the East.
      1. maks-101
        maks-101 April 14 2014 07: 55
        +9
        a referendum for the federalization of Ukraine as part of Ukraine as a special subject without subordination to Kiev, and in general to move the capital to the east.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 14 2014 08: 05
          +19
          Quote: maks-xnumx
          y, and generally the capital should be moved east.

          To Moscow laughing
          1. ipshum
            ipshum April 14 2014 08: 15
            +4
            Better to Barnaul. laughing
            1. Ataman
              Ataman April 14 2014 15: 43
              0
              Moscow understands that its relations with the West are at stake, and Russia, in fact, treasures them.

              These relations begin with the export of raw materials and end there. This is highly valued by the West, because if Russia imposes sanctions on this export, then this is the economic end of Western Europe and the further flourishing of China. I don’t understand why their malicious and powerless tantrums are given such attention.
          2. Corsair
            Corsair April 14 2014 09: 15
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            To Moscow

            Yes, it’s enough to pull everything to Moscow, moderate decentralization of power is already on the agenda, although this process may wait (due to more global problems), but the Russian leadership will return to this ...
        2. Kurkin
          Kurkin April 14 2014 16: 57
          0
          Her, you give the independent Donetsk People's Socialist Federative Republic within the borders of the Don, Lugansk, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhya, Kherson, Odessa, Poltava regions! I myself would move from the Urals to live there, to help build such a socialist republic, with my knowledge of law and jurisprudence.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 14 2014 08: 04
        +27
        Quote: Tersky
        This is exactly the reverse of the pendulum.

        He twisted his teeth, his teeth grinding. When the Soviet Union collapsed, at least one western **** said that it was not democratic. But now, when everything is back to square one, they are ready to break their ass to prevent this.
        Kiev, too, can not be surrendered, but first deal with the east.
        Hi hi
        1. Tersky
          Tersky April 14 2014 08: 13
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          the current he moves with his teeth gritting.

          Let it creak, the main thing is that the backward energy is growing, it will be worse if the pendulum freezes at rest, it’s necessary to grind not only with teeth .. Hi San!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 14 2014 08: 27
            +2
            Quote: Tersky
            , you’ll have to grind not only with your teeth ..

            Well, taking into account that well-known countries at the UN supported Turchinov’s military operation in the east, this will soon happen. They gave a green light.
            1. I do not care
              I do not care April 14 2014 09: 46
              +7
              parallels, parallels
              08.08.2008 01:30 Georgia has officially declared war on South Ossetia. 04:33 Russia demanded to convene a meeting of the UN Security Council on the situation in South Ossetia. 09:41 Russian President Dmitry Medvedev discusses emergency measures "to return the situation in South Ossetia to a peaceful channel." 10:11 The UN Security Council was unable to work out solutions on the situation in South Ossetia. 15:30 Dmitry Medvedev announced that Russia will not allow the death of its citizens in South Ossetia with impunity. 16:30 Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to NATO Dmitry Rogozin sent a note to all representations of NATO member states in Brussels warning against further support for Saakashvili. 18:23 Subdivisions of the 58th Army are located on the northern outskirts of Tskhinval. 13.04.2014/20/16 21:06 The National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine begins a large-scale anti-terrorist operation with the involvement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. XNUMX:XNUMX The Russian Foreign Ministry convenes an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council on the situation in the South-East of Ukraine.
            2. Tersky
              Tersky April 14 2014 10: 05
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              . Gave a green light.

              Moscow will not stay on the yellow one either ... Let Geyropa ponder where this fire of the "military" operation could spread ..
        2. Kamarada
          Kamarada April 14 2014 09: 38
          -1
          ready let them tear
          1. polite people
            polite people April 14 2014 12: 15
            0
            The papal abbot Mavro Orbini wrote his Historiography in 1601. Here is a small excerpt from it: “The Russian people are the most ancient people on earth, from which all other peoples descended. Empire courage of its warriors and the best weapons in the world for millennia kept the whole universe in obedience and humility. Russians have always owned all of Asia, Africa, Persia, Egypt, Greece, Macedonia, Illyria, Moravia, Slaski land, the Czech Republic, Poland, all the shores of the Baltic Sea, Italy and many other countries and lands ... ”
            Do not shame the ancestors. soldier
          2. polite people
            polite people April 14 2014 12: 15
            0
            The papal abbot Mavro Orbini wrote his Historiography in 1601. Here is a small excerpt from it: “The Russian people are the most ancient people on earth, from which all other peoples descended. Empire courage of its warriors and the best weapons in the world for millennia kept the whole universe in obedience and humility. Russians have always owned all of Asia, Africa, Persia, Egypt, Greece, Macedonia, Illyria, Moravia, Slaski land, the Czech Republic, Poland, all the shores of the Baltic Sea, Italy and many other countries and lands ... ”
            Do not shame the ancestors. soldier
        3. ispaniard
          ispaniard April 14 2014 10: 37
          +4
          I agree, Kiev is the mother of Russian cities! And it is impossible to give it up for abuse by the maydanuta "SHOBLE-E..LE"! My heart bleeds when you see that they have already turned Kiev sad ...
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        5. Bkmz
          Bkmz April 14 2014 11: 17
          +2
          If the South-East breaks away from Ukraine, then the Europeans and the PSD will throw what remains of the country and they themselves will be asked to return, the problem of the west of Ukraine is that they are uneducated and do not understand what kind of freebie Russia gave them.
        6. kocclissi
          kocclissi April 14 2014 15: 09
          0
          Kiev is occupied by the junta and it must be liberated from the outside, for there is almost nobody inside, the majority of the amorphous mass!
      3. Very old
        Very old April 14 2014 08: 39
        +10
        Victor, not the topic, but I’ll say - only today I read about RUSIKE who died in Simferopol

        Managed to give life to two boys
        Now I’m going to Skype - a friend in Simferopol, I’ll say: name him a good street so that he lives ETERNALLY
        1. Very old
          Very old April 14 2014 09: 24
          +10
          And yet, VICTOR, in the news: a Kamchatka schoolchild (ninth grader) saved FIVE people from under the ice.
          Boy?
          MAN, the man took place!

          GDP is YOUR word

          (morning news) Russia lived, Russia is, Russia will ALWAYS!

          When there are such people!
      4. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ April 14 2014 09: 01
        +13
        It is not necessary to create "Donetsk Rus", it is necessary to create a historical "Novorossia" within the South-East of present-day Ukraine, with its further acceptance into Russia, if they so wish in a referendum.
        1. Hippopotamus
          Hippopotamus April 14 2014 10: 15
          +3
          within the southeast of present-day Ukraine


          But what about Kiev, the mother of Russian cities !? And Chernihiv? Leave it to the Nazis - descendants will not forgive.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 14 2014 10: 24
            +3
            Quote: Hippo
            Report a violation of the rules of the site

            Right...
            Drive all banderlogs to the Polish border. Preliminarily recapturing the leaders for the people's court on the Maidan.
          2. Victor-M
            Victor-M April 14 2014 10: 56
            +2
            Quote: Hippo
            But what about Kiev, the mother of Russian cities !? And Chernihiv? Leave it to the Nazis - descendants will not forgive.

            God forbid, and they won’t have to fight after the liberation of the southeast, in half a year they themselves will understand and return.
            1. sasha127
              sasha127 April 14 2014 16: 07
              0
              Quote: Victor-M
              God forbid, and they won’t have to fight after the liberation of the southeast, in half a year they themselves will understand and return.

              Don’t hope, don’t understand and don’t come back. And even more west will help them in this. They will help with money so that they don’t stretch their legs from the golad, will help even more with weapons and all kinds of advisers. For Ukraine, Russia is a big headache for the near future. with which you need to wake up to do something.
              Putin VV pridetsa more than once to take, complex, not simple, important decisions.
        2. Very old
          Very old April 14 2014 12: 14
          +1
          VladimirZ - here's some more news for you - Russian migrants (from the former so-called fraternal republics)
          asked to be allowed to serve in the Russian Army ...

          ALLOW !!!
    2. Civil
      Civil April 14 2014 07: 50
      +2
      Another unrecognized state or part of Russia, or a buffer between the west and Russia, or a victorious march to Kiev?
      1. INTER
        INTER April 14 2014 08: 20
        +3
        Quote: Civil
        Another unrecognized state or part of Russia, or a buffer between the west and Russia, or a victorious march to Kiev?
        Sometimes it seems to me that we are following the traces of the victories of the Great Patriotic War, Russia was freed from theft of lawlessness and the like (more or less in comparison with 90), Ukraine and other Russian lands are next in line. The last stage is the capture of Berlin! Thinking out loud! smile
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        2. alexng
          alexng April 14 2014 08: 34
          +3
          Quote: INTER
          The last stage is the capture of Berlin!


          It is necessary to leave Berlin alone, but Washington would not hurt to take it, and not only for the gills ...
          1. Very old
            Very old April 14 2014 09: 09
            +5
            To hell with me Berlin
            My father was there _____ on a self-propelled _____ said: only spray brick !!!
          2. dmitriygorshkov
            dmitriygorshkov April 14 2014 10: 27
            +3
            Quote: alexneg
            but Washington would not hurt to take it, and not only for the gills ...

            +. As my first coach used to say: "Hit it in the head! The rest will fall off by itself!"
        3. jPilot
          jPilot April 14 2014 08: 46
          +2
          This time, Berlin’s campaign against Washington needs to be changed for her, all the permafrost is climbing out of there. If we send troops to Ukraine, we must simultaneously increase the grouping near the borders of Alaska, the Americans will definitely begin to slowly fight .. and draw their hands from Ukraine, because it is they who push and instruct the use of force. Indeed, for any current outcome, this is shit, but they won’t calm down anyway they want revenge. Scum and scoundrels is not a momentary impulse, it is a lifestyle, so they must be destroyed at the root.
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        4. queen
          queen April 14 2014 08: 50
          +4
          Quote: INTER
          (less than 90)

          in the 90s, people had a conscience, now they don’t have it
        5. Partizan
          Partizan April 14 2014 09: 10
          -2
          Quote: INTER
          Russia freed from theft of lawlessness, etc.

          in what place was she released?
          1. INTER
            INTER April 14 2014 09: 13
            +2
            Quote: Partizan
            in what place was she released?

            If memory serves, compare 90 and 2014!
        6. family tree
          family tree April 14 2014 09: 27
          +3
          Quote: INTER
          The last stage is the capture of Berlin!

          Yes, what the hell he was! And so they took it three times. Haha, let the Germans free their Berlin from mattresses.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 14 2014 10: 26
            +3
            Quote: perepilka
            Yes, what the hell

            That's right ...
            We do not need an alien .... We will not give up our own.
            Hi Vladimir!
            hi
    3. mamont5
      mamont5 April 14 2014 07: 52
      +12
      Quote: COLORMAN
      Let anything happen, if only there is no war ...


      Nonsense, do not be like an ostrich hiding its head in the sand in danger. No one here wants war, but we will not tolerate the transformation of Ukraine into a hostile state with NATO bases at our side. Moreover, the people of the South-East of Ukraine also want this. For this they are now facing the Bandera punishers.

      Don't be like these "masters of thought". They were clearly blown away.
      "There is such a profession - to defend the Nazis!"
      http://seva-riga.livejournal.com/28084.html
      1. dmikras
        dmikras April 14 2014 10: 02
        +2
        and yet
        "There is such a profession - to clean up the Nazis!"
    4. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 14 2014 08: 07
      +5
      Quote: COLORMAN
      Let anything happen, if only there is no war ...

      If there will be no war / and although someone doesn’t want it, BUT IT ALREADY GOES! / Now, then after the war it will be for sure! OUR enemies will be ready for !!!! Now we are ready much better than the west, which unleashed a massacre against the whole Russian world!
    5. open
      open April 14 2014 08: 29
      +1
      War is freedom from Bonder’s ideology, war is independence
    6. Predator
      Predator April 14 2014 08: 36
      0
      The appeasement of fascism is the way to war! What history doesn’t teach anything? Remember Hitler and his Germany! If you had crushed the USSR as it was proposed during the Czechoslovak crisis, then there was no 2 world!
    7. open
      open April 14 2014 08: 38
      0
      War is freedom from bonders, war is independence
    8. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 14 2014 09: 00
      +2
      Quote: COLORMAN
      Let anything happen, if only there is no war

      is anything - a massacre of Russians?
    9. zao74
      zao74 April 14 2014 09: 03
      0
      Are you ready to go into slavery? To give everything, to betray the memory of ancestors and bow to the fascists - if only there would be no war ?! If our grandfathers thought the same ...
    10. Magadan
      Magadan April 14 2014 09: 24
      +5
      yes, if everything was so simple .... In today's Ukraine it will be like in Nazi Germany - you will stay on the sidelines because "not a Jew", "not a communist", "not from a trade union", then they will come for you and no one will protect you since Jews, communists and trade unions have already been killed ...
    11. TAMERLAN 7
      TAMERLAN 7 April 14 2014 10: 28
      +1
      Quote: COLORMAN
      Let anything happen, if only there is no war ...

      .... Stalin thought in June 1941! Late! We have a civil war in Ukraine, we have endured for a long time, guided by such a slogan, it was our mistake! Russia, remember 1941 and do not step on the same rake! If you let the fascists kill us, the price and shame for centuries are worthless! am I will not minus - I myself once thought so! repeat
    12. Turkir
      Turkir April 14 2014 12: 22
      +1
      We are against the war. Just unlikely to be able to sit out in the corners.
      We must fight, not for ourselves, but for the fate of our children and grandchildren!
      So that they were not brought up by Yaroshi and Avakyans.
    13. Cherdak
      Cherdak April 14 2014 14: 46
      0
      Quote: COLORMAN
      Let anything happen

      And what to do with these organisms?
      1. leman
        leman April 14 2014 21: 12
        0
        It’s how stupid and narrow-minded you need to be to write something like that. They really think that only they are given to "fight". The rest ("not them") will silently wait to be shot like silent cattle. Imagine themselves "great". Revel in their pseudo-victory. Inflated self-esteem, delusions of grandeur have never been brought to any good. No matter how high you fly up in your eyes, the fall will be inevitable. You don't even know how to treat them - it's funny to hate, just sympathize, because the brain is already at the stage of withering away. It seems that history as a subject has not been taught in Ukraine since the times of the USSR
  2. ele1285
    ele1285 April 14 2014 07: 45
    +11
    Russia is a friend of this nascent statehood, but by no means its customer.

    And I somehow pumped up, friend, order, enemy, Tymoshenko, negotiations and other crap.
    There are people who want to go to Russia, the rest will follow. Now, as part of Ukraine, in a year or two, all this will be Russia. Bear with me, bros.
    1. queen
      queen April 14 2014 08: 56
      +3
      Quote: ele1285
      .Beat it, bros.

      Note that we do not crush the country into pieces .. but we create, we create an integral state.
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 April 14 2014 16: 51
        0
        Quote: regin
        We’re creating, we are creating an integrated state.

        Which state? you can’t make candy out of fikalis. It’s just the territory of Russia temporarily occupied by Ukraine.
  3. Hippopotamus
    Hippopotamus April 14 2014 07: 45
    +8
    Donbass - the new South-Western Front against the new fascism. Great article. To the author plus unambiguous !!
  4. mamont5
    mamont5 April 14 2014 07: 45
    +4
    "... Russian troops enter the South-East of Ukraine only in response to the introduction of the Ukrainian army there to suppress the popular uprising. There is no Ukrainian army, no Russian troops. They are ready, but will not move."

    That's right, this is our leadership plan. We act when the Kiev junta decides to use the sun.
    "Of course, military support from Russia is possible only in the event of the start of massive repression and bloodshed. In this case, Moscow can conduct a new type of peacekeeping operation, which can be called 'compulsion to federalization."
    http://warfiles.ru/show-52302-prinuzhdenie-k-federalizacii.html
    1. krpmlws
      krpmlws April 14 2014 08: 14
      +2
      Quote: mamont5
      "... Russian troops enter the South-East of Ukraine only in response to the introduction of the Ukrainian army there to suppress the popular uprising. There is no Ukrainian army, no Russian troops. They are ready, but will not move."

      That's right, this is our leadership plan. We act when the Kiev junta decides to use the sun.
      "Of course, military support from Russia is possible only in the event of the start of massive repression and bloodshed. In this case, Moscow can conduct a new type of peacekeeping operation, which can be called 'compulsion to federalization."
      http://warfiles.ru/show-52302-prinuzhdenie-k-federalizacii.html

      No, what else is coercion to federalization? If the troops are introduced, then in order to prevent the genocide of the Russian people by the fascist junta of the Maydaunas, as well as so that the people can show their freedom and hold a referendum, he himself determined his fate.
      1. queen
        queen April 14 2014 08: 58
        +1
        Quote: krpmlws
        fascist junta maydaunov

        Believe me, they can’t wash this label off now)
        1. Anper
          Anper April 14 2014 09: 37
          +2
          Quote: regin
          Believe me, they can’t wash this label off now)

          I don’t understand something, but where is the suicide promised by Avakov? And where is Senya, who promised on the Maidan, who’s not going to live with a ganboy, just like a forehead - then a forehead?
  5. Signaller
    Signaller April 14 2014 07: 47
    +1
    Looking at how people go to rallies, we can say that there is no majority that wants to go to Russia. Either the people do not want, or do not understand, or they are all happy. After reading the article it’s not clear, the author then understands the seriousness of this step or just hovers somewhere. (In the clouds, for example). Everything is much more neglected and more serious than we wanted to see.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist April 14 2014 08: 09
      +5
      Quote: Signaller
      Looking at how people go to rallies, we can say that there are no majority,

      This does not mean that they support Bandera. Many want to live quietly, work, raise children.
      1. Egoza
        April 14 2014 08: 17
        +15
        Quote: Bort Radist
        This does not mean that they support Bandera.

        Right! A referendum and federalization, even within Ukraine, will untie the hands of the new federation! She will be independent from Kiev and will not feed the memory! She will be able to independently use the earned money for her social needs! And the MAIN THING! She will be able to independently conclude contracts, sign contracts and so on. It will be profitable - he will sign everything with Russia! (And so it will be) And then, de jure in Ukraine, but de facto ... And not a single "muck" in the world can then blather that Russia has occupied the southeast of Ukraine!
        1. SS68SS
          SS68SS April 14 2014 10: 26
          0
          Independence is good. But in order to be independent, the state must be able to defend itself. Does the Donetsk Republic have its own army?
        2. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov April 14 2014 10: 53
          0
          Quote: Egoza
          And then, de jure in Ukraine, and de facto ...

          Great, you painted everything, dear Fidget, but why did you get the idea that the federation within Ukraine will be so comprehensive? So much so that money apart and foreign policy?
          I really appreciate your opinion, but here in my opinion, pink glasses.
          Kiev will never go to such a federation!
        3. Karabin
          Karabin April 14 2014 13: 14
          0
          Quote: Egoza
          She will be independent of Kiev and will not feed the memory! She will be able to independently let the earned money into her social needs! AND, MOST IMPORTANT! She will be able to independently conclude contracts, sign contracts and more. It will be beneficial - it will sign everything with Russia! (And so it will be) And then, de jure in Ukraine, and de facto ..

          Federation implies a single army, police, special services. It all needs to be kept. Are you sure that it is the southeast that will control these structures? And what about foreign policy? Federation is a dead end. Dugin is right - this is equivalent to surrender.
    2. GUKTU92
      GUKTU92 April 14 2014 08: 42
      0
      I agree completely! You can't cut from the shoulder here! We all sit in a "warm place" and talk about the war. But the war in the cities and towns where children live .... What a stress for their psyche! Why not one exposed by the authorities will not think about it ??? Do you even think with your head?
    3. GUKTU92
      GUKTU92 April 14 2014 08: 42
      0
      I agree completely! You can't cut from the shoulder here! We all sit in a "warm place" and talk about the war. But the war in the cities and towns where children live .... What a stress for their psyche! Why not one exposed by the authorities will not think about it ??? Do you even think with your head?
  6. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 14 2014 07: 47
    +16
    Do not believe the negotiators, promises, persuasions, threats and promises. Everyone will betray you. Except Putin
    And we are more than 143 million. standing behind their President and we will stand to death ....
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 14 2014 08: 06
      +8
      Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
      And we are more than 143 million.

      Do not la la, and why do not we consider Crimea? + 2 million.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky April 14 2014 08: 20
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Do not la la, and why do not we consider Crimea?

        Sasha do not run over, people are not used to this demagrophic explosion laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 14 2014 08: 29
          +4
          Quote: Tersky
          , people are not used to this demagrophic explosion

          The people are becoming impudent, Crimea is already a long time as part of the Russian Federation, and the people are not used to it yet. laughing
          1. queen
            queen April 14 2014 09: 02
            0
            Greetings to Alexander) just everyone thought Crimea was Russian, so it’s not annoying)
  7. askort154
    askort154 April 14 2014 07: 48
    +1
    The Russian spirit has always saved Russia!
  8. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx April 14 2014 07: 49
    +3
    We must pay tribute, it is written well and correctly. Southeast, we are with you and support you. Victory to you!
  9. Grenz
    Grenz April 14 2014 07: 51
    +5
    And also it is necessary to appeal to lovers of "dumplings and bacon" - do not oversleep your future.
    Get up before it's too late. And then tomorrow you will switch to Sneakers.
    Your sons in technical education will study only the device of the Geyropei closets, and your daughters - well, without a word it is clear. This is already happening.
    Have you really prepared for yourself such a fate? I do not believe.
  10. old man
    old man April 14 2014 07: 54
    0
    Yes, I agree now, confidence in the media is really undermined by the one-sided coverage of events (especially the West, I’m not talking about Ukrainian media, which should not be taken into account at all). It is necessary to check all the info 10 times. Even judging by this forum, you can feel a bunch of moles.
  11. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 April 14 2014 07: 54
    +9
    Well written, but the calculation again on URA-patriotism.
    No doubt about it. The author adequately and reasonably presented his point of view, but it would be time to have already set up a bank account to support the Southwest in Russia. I am sure. Many will throw themselves to help them.
    I would have thrown myself off.
    Also, I don’t see any problems in introducing special forces from volunteers from the territory of our state to the South-West, supplying weapons, in particular the PWG, ATGM, hand-held air defense systems and riflemen, ammunition.
    Why did the CIA probably already send their mercenaries disguised in uniform, but we can’t? Why in Kiev some units are already armed with NATO snipers, and activists of the Southeast are old SVD?
    1. Arbatov
      Arbatov April 14 2014 08: 25
      +4
      For old SVDs, it’s easier to find cartridges.
      But seriously, all of ours (including our specialists) are doing it right. Think it over.
  12. parus2nik
    parus2nik April 14 2014 07: 57
    +4
    The Khuntai, with the US filing, are working according to the Croatian scenario .. But in Croatia, Serbs were squeezed out of the country ... Here, the Khuntai try to squeeze out dissenters and not one, two, but millions ... The Western West pretends to not see the Nazi grin of the Khuntai authorities. .A federalization will not happen anymore .. there will be a war, a civil war .. On the side of the NATO juntas, on the side of the junta’s opponents, on August 1, 1914 .. history repeats itself ..
  13. Sergg
    Sergg April 14 2014 07: 59
    +1
    New Russia is a special cultural and historical, social space.


    Quite rightly, there were always two indigenous nationalities, Russians and Ukrainians, who were essentially one nation. I would very much like to see a new union state on the site of the former Ukraine.
    It can be emphasized that the new state will be with a single currency, with one army, nothing separates us, we are quarreled only by corrupt politicians and corrupt "cultural workers".
  14. Name
    Name April 14 2014 08: 00
    +6
    Introduce Russian troops without a true threat to the territory of Ukraine ... I beg YOU .., the GDP is not for that "the game VELIKUYU" started, so that it would be so ..... fuck up for the sake of the maydanutym and the CIA.
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  16. ambiorix
    ambiorix April 14 2014 08: 00
    +1
    With such people Donbass will stand:
    1. ambiorix
      ambiorix April 14 2014 08: 01
      +19
      Scary people in the Donbass. Eurosecs do not succumb am
    2. ambiorix
      ambiorix April 14 2014 08: 02
      +9

      And the girls are not far behind the men.
    3. leman
      leman April 14 2014 21: 38
      0
      "The zhovto-blakytny banner of the Central Ukrainian Republic clamped on both sides with a disproportionately large" pitchfork "painted by hand in the upper right corner, fighting on two fronts, alternately whipped its neighbors. left the newcomer no chance of decisive resistance, or at least a decent surrender.
      The white-red banner of the Polish contingent of the Operational Deployment Forces of the European Union stubbornly and monotonously beat its neighbors from left to right, at times trying to entangle and extinguish the SDG's footcloth. High-quality mesh polyester gave a tangible advantage in speed and sharpness of impact, and a wide, not yet frayed edge and a large length compared to the closest neighbor made it possible to count, if not on a successful grip, then at least serious control of the situation.
      Luxurious Russian tricolor for a long time did not get involved in the ensuing battle. Hanging half a meter lower than the rest with his heavy silk, drenched in moisture and night, filled with moisture, at first, by inflating a multi-layered body with a sail, he disapprovedly pushed off the lounging neighbors and sometimes reluctantly let the heavy slap in the face with especially zealous.
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  17. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z April 14 2014 08: 00
    +11
    Taken from anecdotal tape (i.e., someone else’s, not mine) but so on!

    Ukraine comes to an appointment with a personal doctor named Slavic People, who says to her:
    “Well, my dear, how did she launch herself?” You have a young man in an advanced stage, Tymoshenko’s relapse, Yatsenyuk is progressing, acute Avakov, chronic Turchynov, a nickname for the whole head, a black oligarchy, a split personality has begun, the IMF blood, in addition, a dangerous exacerbation of the girdle of NATO!
    Here's a recipe for you: every day a decoction of the herb of true patriotism inside, injections of history for immunity, tincture of millennium-old Orthodoxy and a tonic extract of the Slavic brotherhood. As you recover, I’ll marry you too!
    1. Corsair
      Corsair April 14 2014 09: 54
      +1
      Quote: Starover_Z
      As you recover, I’ll marry you too!

      I'm afraid SUCH is not being treated quickly ...
      1. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 14 2014 11: 07
        0
        Quote: Corsair
        I'm afraid SUCH is not being treated quickly ...

        But we don't need it quickly! Our motto is "Quality"!
  18. -SHADOW-
    -SHADOW- April 14 2014 08: 00
    +6
    NORMAL TREND ...
    MONTH TWO THREE AND WHAT WILL REMAIN FROM UKRAINE BY 2015 ???
    EXCEPT FOR EXTERNAL DEBTS ???
    1. COLUN
      COLUN April 14 2014 09: 14
      0
      There will be nothing left except a torn blanket.
  19. Monk
    Monk April 14 2014 08: 01
    +4
    The question is not what Putin will betray the South-East, the question is whether the South-East will then betray Putin.
    1. Filon
      Filon April 14 2014 09: 12
      +3
      The fact that People in the SE spoke out for their rights, for their Slavic roots, taking into account the risks to which the lives of these People and their relatives are exposed ... They ALREADY did not betray themselves and all Russians! And Putin to the heap :)
  20. a52333
    a52333 April 14 2014 08: 02
    +4
    Those who now defend the young Donetsk Republic and who hold the defense in Lugansk are the vanguard of the entire Russian people. All our thoughts and powers, feelings and prayers are now addressed to them.

    + + + + + + good Donetsk Socialist Republic. Cool! If so, Little Russia is truly the vanguard!
    1. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin April 14 2014 08: 07
      +5
      Those who now defend the young Donetsk Republic and who hold the defense in Lugansk are the vanguard of the entire Russian people. All our thoughts and powers, feelings and prayers are now addressed to them.

      ++++++ good Donetsk Socialist Republic. Cool! If so, Little Russia is truly the vanguard!

      We have the same govor on the Don as that of the Donetsk ... you can throw up the Cossacks for support, they will definitely "ride" for the locals
      1. zzz
        zzz April 14 2014 08: 33
        +1
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        We have the same govor on the Don as that of the Donetsk ... you can throw up the Cossacks for support, they will definitely "ride" for the locals


        That’s for sure, Rostov’s can never be distinguished from the Donetsk ones by conversation.
        1. zao74
          zao74 April 14 2014 09: 32
          0
          And I thought the Rostovs there for a long time ... wink
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  21. andj61
    andj61 April 14 2014 08: 03
    0
    "Novorossia is a special cultural, historical, social space."
    Well, actually, Novorossia is those areas that are still silent - Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Kherson, Nikolaev, Odessa. Kharkov, Lugansk, Donetsk - this is the so-called Sloboda Ukraine.
    And OUR help is necessary, both by people, and by weapons, and by resources.
    1. zzz
      zzz April 14 2014 08: 34
      0
      Quote: andj61
      And OUR help is necessary, both by people, and by weapons, and by resources.


      Can’t they be helped? I hope that helps ....
  22. -SHADOW-
    -SHADOW- April 14 2014 08: 05
    +2
    Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
    Do not believe the negotiators, promises, persuasions, threats and promises. Everyone will betray you. Except Putin
    And we are more than 143 million. standing behind their President and we will stand to death ....

    WELL SAID,
    and we have one Kuchma for 23 years was more or less, but did not deserve such words ... there were sins
  23. tchoni
    tchoni April 14 2014 08: 05
    +2
    Maidanyats had the only chance to end their business in peace - let them go, carry out federalization without formal disintegration of the country - and then make life in Ukraine no worse than in Europe (social guarantees, security and general level, etc.) But this is not happened - because Maidanyata - thieves who know how to yell beautifully and a lot to rub. And that’s all. They understand this themselves, so they did not even try to bring their chance to life.
  24. -Patriot-
    -Patriot- April 14 2014 08: 06
    +3
    Representatives of the West’s special services are already working with the Ukrainian junta on suppressing the rallies of the people in the Southeast, they have a power option in priority. The puppets in power would be happy to jump, see, but everything has already been paid by their masters. Let them remain a shameful spot in history, and I wish the people of the Southeast steadfastness in the struggle for their just cause.
  25. ambiorix
    ambiorix April 14 2014 08: 07
    +4
    The epic flush of the Juntota plans. laughing

    WAR CANCELED?

    Most members of the NSDC did not support the proposals of Avakov and Pashinsky on the introduction of martial law in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions

    The National Security and Defense Council refused to impose martial law in the eastern regions. The LIGABusinessInform was informed about this by a source familiar with today's discussion of the situation in the National Security and Defense Council. The initiators of the introduction of martial law were acting Head of the Presidential Administration Sergei Pashinsky and Interior Minister Arsen Avakov.

    The source noted that the anti-terrorist operation in the city of Slavyansk, Donetsk region, which was previously announced, was suspended, as security officials refused to enter the city without covering army armored vehicles. Armored vehicles did not enter the city, because the army referred to the absence of a decision on the introduction of martial law.

    As a result, the security forces managed to liquidate only the resistance checkpoints at the entrance to Slavyansk, after which the operation choked.
    1. Anatolich
      Anatolich April 14 2014 09: 37
      +4
      I don’t see anything funny, they’ll adjust the equipment, probably they will, and then the defenders will have to tight. The question is how far the junta is ready to go in the assault on the city, armored personnel carriers will not help them much, and if the assault begins with tanks, then it will be shamelessly defending, but these are already full-blown databases.
  26. Shadow1
    Shadow1 April 14 2014 08: 08
    +1
    The future must be in the present. This is called a plan. Without it, nothing in the world can be good.

    Act Southeast!
  27. Humpty
    Humpty April 14 2014 08: 09
    +1
    It can be said for sure that the people didn’t rise in order to replace some mascraders with others. I liked the article, Dugin did well.
  28. Bort radist
    Bort radist April 14 2014 08: 13
    +1
    Quote: - "But for Moscow, like Crimea, this is by no means a gift: Moscow understands that its relations with the West are at stake, and Russia is, in fact, quite trembling ". Not a good one, like Freud too.
  29. Grbear
    Grbear April 14 2014 08: 14
    +5
    The porridge is serious and the stakes are high. Oligarchs do not like to give, and Nazis do not like others. The main thing is that the SE does not slip into the junta and start using its techniques. Crimea, in the same form - bloodless, cannot be repeated. The question is quantity. Confederation is possible only if the regions now act as a united front, helping each other, otherwise, they will "gnaw" one at a time. The chance is historical.

    I envy the Crimea (in white). They start from scratch, but there is someone to help, there is someone to tell, there is someone to protect. What foundation is laid, so they will live. Or maybe it will become the political locomotive of ALL RUSSIA hi .
  30. ksendzov1971
    ksendzov1971 April 14 2014 08: 21
    +1
    The main thing is not to leave the brothers in difficult times! The Kremlin must defend the interests of the Russian-speaking population
  31. Egen
    Egen April 14 2014 08: 21
    0
    I just can’t understand what VV P was planning with his comrades, maybe they are afraid of an open confrontation with the West and they are preparing / waiting / conceived something, like it was in Syria. So far we do not understand to what point the situation should boil and what the reaction will be. But one thing is clear - without the explicit initiative of the population, it is unlikely that something will follow on the part of Russia, half of Ukraine - this is not Crimea, it is a serious industry and a large population.
    Therefore, the author is right - a lot depends on the _heroes_ of the Southeast ...
  32. aballan
    aballan April 14 2014 08: 33
    +1
    Alexander Dugin, philosophical writer and politician of the Eurasian vector of development of the Eurasian space, just a good person, as always original, is a new / Russian spirit in New Russia, getting rid of the liberal / foreign paradigms of development, both of the capitalist west, torn to global hegemonism, and liberal / the lascivious capitalism of Russia, A. Dugin believes, will create a new Russian social state, relying on Russia, offering great / Russia new perspectives in a social / oriented, and more just future. If it were feasible, but oh and oh, who would allow them to quietly carry out in our turbulent time ... It would be a great success if, at least, they organize themselves and protect their independence from Kiev, and choose the social structure of the newly formed state It will depend on many, both internal and external factors ... May God give them success! A. Dugin, on the other hand, wishes for new achievements in his work ...
    1. jura61
      jura61 April 14 2014 09: 01
      +1
      And we have no time left, Washington is printing more and more money, the world is rapidly changing for them, and they understand this very well. If earlier they planned to stretch several years before a new large-scale war, then at the moment time is decreasing catastrophically for them, new centers are appearing, the world is becoming more and more multipolar. Recently, it seems to me that at the end of the 20th century we did not lose after the collapse of the USSR, but they lost, because of euphoria they lost a sense of reality.
  33. Diter
    Diter April 14 2014 08: 35
    +5
    "Moscow understands that its relations with the West are at stake, and Russia is actually quite shaking with them."
    Throughout our history, relations with the West are relations with a rabid dog who sleeps and sees how to bite. There is nothing special to value here.
  34. open
    open April 14 2014 08: 40
    +1
    Quote: COLORMAN
    Let anything happen, if only there is no war ...




    War is freedom, war is independence
    1. GUKTU92
      GUKTU92 April 14 2014 08: 48
      +1
      War is blood and death, and then something else
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  35. Dymkovsky
    Dymkovsky April 14 2014 08: 46
    +3
    Photo with vodka just killed! With such people, I would very carefully select words in communication, and I certainly would not fight. If you’ve decided, you won’t do such things!
  36. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 April 14 2014 08: 49
    +2
    from the Don.
    I also don’t hear calls to help the fighters and the people of the SEI, either financially or humanitarianly. But it is necessary, it is very necessary! People need help! Where are the settlement accounts, where are the points of reception for help?
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 14 2014 11: 38
      0
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      ! Where are the settlement accounts, where are the help desks?

      Sadly, but the people cooled down a bit, Crimea was already there. They collected humanitarian aid, including "wearable things" (although they were unlikely to be needed in Crimea) ...
      Therefore, now we need an initiative from above, well, or from some public associations, with a concrete indication of what and how much is needed. And we will collect, of course we will!
  37. jura61
    jura61 April 14 2014 08: 55
    +2
    Many politicians say that Ukraine as a state did not take place. And so it is. In order to stabilize the situation in the Southeast, it is necessary to divide Ukraine into 3 parts, as it was at the beginning of the 20th century. And to develop the new small state of Little Russia in a different vein, the model that suits us better, the socialist system with elements that correspond to the modern world, and this is 100% possible. Starting from scratch as an example for the Orthodox world.
  38. Selevc
    Selevc April 14 2014 09: 01
    +5
    Russia is not our enemy - although it acts stupidly, Europe + the USA are enemies to us and they act smartly !!!
    The time has passed when it was possible to conduct a quick special operation against the new authorities of Kiev ... And every day they are getting stronger ... The fact that Russia has gathered serious military forces along the borders of Ukraine does not solve the situation at all - to use tanks and planes against small groups of militants is all it's like hitting cockroaches with a club - the furniture is in pieces and the cockroaches are laughing, sitting in the corners))) America is clearly provoking and pushing Russia into a conflict, throwing in an obvious misconception like "Russia will capture Ukraine in 3-4 days" ...
    In general, who is closer to the leadership of the Russian Federation-let them know that they are wasting time-the war in Ukraine is inevitable-it is only a matter of time ... And the sooner and the smarter Russia enters it, the easier it will be for everyone !!!
    1. COLUN
      COLUN April 14 2014 09: 21
      +2
      Quote: Selevc
      every day they become stronger ...

      No, they drive themselves into ..opu.
      Quote: Selevc
      Russia has gathered serious military forces along the borders of Ukraine

      Well, there are no armed forces !!!
      Quote: Selevc
      using tanks and planes against small groups of militants is like beating a cockroach with a club - furniture is slipping and cockroaches are laughing sitting in the corners

      That is why there is no armed forces.
      Quote: Selevc
      let them know that they are wasting time - a war in Ukraine is inevitable - it's just a matter of time ...

      But calls for war - no need !!!
      Self-defense forces do an excellent job.
      Hang on brothers !!!
      1. Selevc
        Selevc April 14 2014 12: 26
        +1
        Quote: COLUN
        No, they drive themselves into ..opu.

        I would not say that - now mobilization is underway in all regions of Eastern Ukraine ... Units of the Ukrainian army are being formed - "cannon fodder" from people who really do not know how to fight - and these units are commanded by officers from Western Ukraine ... That is, the Kiev junta actually substitutes under a possible first blow to the Russian-speaking population of the East of the country ...
        Meanwhile, in the West of Ukraine, small mobile units of the National Guard are being trained - they are training snipers and grenade launchers - it is very effective, among other things, against columns of armored vehicles ...
        In the near future in the East of Ukraine provocations are possible on the part of the skirmishers (right-wing sectors) against the civilian population or hastily assembled detachments of "cannon fodder" - what will Russia do in such a situation - silently gnash its teeth or act somehow?
        As for PR, misinformation and provocations - the Maidan people have already shown themselves in this in full glory - I think this is not necessary to prove !!!
    2. family tree
      family tree April 14 2014 09: 23
      +1
      Quote: Selevc
      The time has gone when it was possible to carry out a quick special operation against the new authorities of Kiev ... And every day they are strengthening ..

      It has not yet arrived. Every day they are weakening. A quick special operation against the new authorities, it seems as if they are going to stir up the Maidan, but they won’t succeed there quickly, but their nerves will get better.
    3. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 14 2014 11: 55
      +1
      Quote: Selevc
      The time has gone when it was possible to conduct a quick special operation against the new authorities of Kiev ... And every day they are strengthening ... The fact that Russia has gathered serious military forces along the borders of Ukraine

      Why didn’t I understand what the comrade was for? What is it?
      This is when you think it was possible to carry out a quick spets.operatsiyu against the junta, without the fact that they would not have gone mad about your "smart?"
      Every day the junta strengthens? Oh well? What is this expressed in?
      "Russia has gathered serious military forces along the borders of Ukraine" ??? Have you seen enough of the 5th channel?
      Russia does not need to gather forces on the border of Ukraine, so everything is NEXT !!!
      And those who think "Russia is not our enemy" are not our friend at all! And for what devil we fight for them, no matter how clever or stupid!
      Seems to me ...... and hereinafter
      1. Selevc
        Selevc April 14 2014 12: 37
        0
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov
        This is when you think it was possible to carry out a quick spets.operatsiyu against the junta, without the fact that they would not have gone mad about your "smart?"

        It was necessary to act against the Junta at the beginning of the Maidan ... But the last time was missed at the end of February - when the maydanists themselves violated the agreements with the authorities and expelled Yanukovych from Kiev ... Yanukovych could well have turned for help to the CIS countries or the CSTO - how anyone ... CIS leaders had to make a single statement on the situation in Ukraine and act immediately ... At least the Maidanut and the West would deal with a coalition of countries, not just Russia ...
        Putin has such a trump card in his hands as the Legally elected President of Ukraine and whether someone likes it or not, the legitimate authority must be respected ... Yanukovych was supposed to issue a statement "On restoring order in the country" and holding a National Referendum on the main issues of Ukraine, taking into account the positions of all regions of the country and on the basis of this referendum it was necessary to decide what Ukraine should be in the future - but the fact that Galicia needed to be separated was understandable six months ago (even the stupid Dobkin once said about this and then "suffered" for this) .. ...
        In this situation, the position of Belarus and Kazakhstan is surprising - are they with Russia or the West, or just scattered about their minks?
        Now, the problem in Ukraine cannot be solved with little blood - the West will benefit from a big mess in Ukraine and they will only wind up and aggravate the situation ...
  39. koshaus
    koshaus April 14 2014 09: 05
    0
    This uncle by the name of Dugin recently announced the need to give the Kuriles to the Japanese
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYef_PSo4VA
    now he sings other songs ...
    1. Partizan
      Partizan April 14 2014 09: 21
      0
      What was ordered, he sings, now the order is to glorify GDP.
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  40. Partizan
    Partizan April 14 2014 09: 18
    0
    Quote: Dymkovsky
    Photo with vodka just killed! With such people, I would very carefully select words in communication, and I certainly would not fight. If you’ve decided, you won’t do such things!

    Yes, this is not a human being! Vodka ... SIMPLY pour ... yes well it? belay
    1. leman
      leman April 14 2014 21: 54
      0
      Vodka is evil. There is nothing to regret.
  41. Rusin Dima
    Rusin Dima April 14 2014 09: 46
    0
    All but Putin will betray you.
    The right words Putin is a real officer and a Russian citizen, betrayal is alien to him
  42. mackonya
    mackonya April 14 2014 09: 47
    0
    Relations with the EU and the US do not always depend on Russia itself. It would be possible to ignore Crimea and the situation in Ukraine in general, then NATO will place a missile defense system right at the borders of Russia, claiming that this system of direction is against North Korea, and not against Russia. And, of course, Russia would begin to oppose the missile defense system near its borders, and then relations with the US and the EU would be spoiled. The EU and the US need a Russia that is inactive, weak-willed and dependent on one word "West". Therefore, it is not worth valuing relations with such "partners" who only want to see you as "weak".
  43. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 14 2014 09: 47
    +1
    The people of the southeast exercise their right to self-determination. The junta wanted to deprive him of his fundamental rights, and in the end he gets on the nose, a little more and her jaw was rolled up, and then her neck.
  44. 3vs
    3vs April 14 2014 10: 04
    +1
    Not so simple.
    Nobody wants to fight and get a load of two hundred home!
    Only the will of local residents to defend their interests, even with weapons in their hands
    can change something in Ukraine.
    There is no doubt that if there is a big mess, we will have to send troops there,
    but it is extremely undesirable.
    Nobody now thinks about what it will cost us to join new entities to
    Russia.
    And this is the restoration of the destroyed economy, and the additional millions of pensioners,
    when the budget is already bursting, since more and more persistent calls for an increase
    retirement age, but what the hell else will fall.
    For me, even if you get involved in this, then all of Ukraine and Transnistria should already be included in
    composition of Russia.
    1. Anper
      Anper April 14 2014 10: 41
      +1
      Quote: 3vs
      if there is a big mess, we will have to send troops there,

      As far as we know, the Americans are waiting for this.
      The first time it didn’t work - when the congress was in Kharkov, at which Yanek had to turn to Russia with a request to send troops.
      Now they are squeezing again to the shouts of "Russia is an aggressor and an occupier." ...
      Maybe the statements made by the Russian Foreign Ministry seem quite calm for those who understand it, they mean a lot? After all, some kind of Maidan storm was planned before the Olympics, as the GDP with China was said something together, and those who understand crap one's pants for some reason.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt April 14 2014 11: 00
      0
      Joining Russia will only split it with the West and make it an aggressor. And at the same time, everything that happened in Ukraine will be a heavy burden on Russia. We have no reason to declare responsibility of the West and the United States in the collapse of the state. There is no way without looking back. Our enemies achieve this.
  45. acute
    acute April 14 2014 10: 11
    +1
    Quote: COLORMAN
    Let anything happen, if only there is no war ...

    What are you speaking about? I am not saying that people can be imprisoned or even just killed. You can’t live a life of pretending to be a stone. You will still face a choice
  46. aleks 62
    aleks 62 April 14 2014 10: 17
    +1
    Quote: Old very
    Victor, not the topic, but I’ll say - only today I read about RUSIKE who died in Simferopol

    Managed to give life to two boys
    Now I’m going to Skype - a friend in Simferopol, I’ll say: name him a good street so that he lives ETERNALLY

    ..... I have long wanted to offer this, only the implementation mechanism is unclear ...
  47. SAVA555.IVANOV
    SAVA555.IVANOV April 14 2014 10: 37
    0
    And the most interesting thing is happening on the markets of Azerbaijanis and other blockbuster scum trades as if nothing had happened they still agree with any authority, so what the hell are people fighting on the streets for these parasites who send suitcases with money to Kiev to this authorities?
  48. Simple
    Simple April 14 2014 10: 48
    0
    I watched this video yesterday:



    My opinion: using the usual “mobile phone” throughout Ukraine is like calling the CIA department, which is housed in the Ukrainian building of the IED.
    Programs used to analyze telephone conversations work, for example, with keywords. If the conversation is neutral, then it will still be involved in the analysis of arrays and time.
    No wonder mobile communications are still operating in the South-East of Ukraine.
  49. siberalt
    siberalt April 14 2014 10: 55
    0
    Little information from places. Maybe that's why the events do not seem so swift in their development. Each region needs its own rebel army with military specialists and support. You should not delay local referendums on the recognition of independence from Kiev and the formation of a legitimate government. The next stage is a federal agreement between the regions, the formation of the combined forces of the liberating federal army and the creation of a central federal government. Then a federal referendum on the status of the federal bloc and its social choice of the path of building a new independent state. There is still time.
  50. Thomas
    Thomas April 14 2014 11: 12
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    I found VK on the anti-Maidan page of Kharkov, I don’t know, however, a photo from which city, but it was very pleasing. smile