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Makarevich syndrome

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The psychology of representatives of the modern “fifth column” is amazing. During the civil war in Spain in 1936, the “fifth column” of francoists actually participated in military actions in the rear of the Republicans (engaged in sabotage, espionage, sabotage).


At the present time, the "fifth column" means people who constantly demonstrate their disagreement with the policies of the authorities, including specific actions, criticize its real steps and even intentions.

Together, these actions are shaking the foundations of the state. And often in this criticism there is no need, and public disagreement, thus, simply turns into a manner of behavior and, if a person is known, then in a way of influencing public opinion. And why there is more farce here - narcissism, sabotage, or deep inner frustration - is hard to say.

LITTLE GENERAL CONSIDERATIONS

At the end of 1970, when the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, James Fulbrat, was reproached that he too often criticized his government (i.e., the US government), the senator answered them with a catchphrase: "To criticize your country means believing in that she can get better. ”

That's the way it is, a certain amount of critical judgments will never hurt the authorities. If the criticism turns into a kind of ritual to maintain its social status, then it is harmful. Especially at the turning points when the fate of the country is decided.

The collapse of Russian-Ukrainian relations somehow happened unexpectedly. In Russia, this fact was perceived by all extremely painful. For the most part, we continue to consider Ukraine as part of a large whole - the Slavic world.

For us, Ukraine will never be a foreign state. Half of its population is Russian or Russian-speaking. And how many mixed marriages, this is generally impossible to say.

In these conditions, any steps taken by the authorities to restore historical justice, and the accession of Crimea to Russia, of course, is such, in theory should only be welcomed. But we are seeing a different picture. Some representatives of the creative intelligentsia, which for the most part do not understand a damn thing in foreign policy, began by their actions and statements to demonstrate disagreement with how Russian diplomacy is involved in resolving the Ukrainian crisis.

I CAN BE AND ARMY

Freddie Mercury once said about himself: “I am different. Of course, I could say what a wonderful person I am, but in reality, as if I consist of many different components, I can be a bastard. ”

Here about this "many different components" below and will be discussed. Take rock musician Boris Grebenshchikov. A man sat in St. Petersburg, creating for a small circle of his fans, and suddenly he started: he composed the song “Love during the war”. Moreover, the poet on Forgiveness Sunday on a Facebook page called on the Russian authorities to solve the problems with Ukraine peacefully. It seems that active hostilities are already underway, bombs are falling, roaring Tanks, the infantry with heart-rending cries breaks into battle, in short, all the good is trampled and trampled. It is necessary to awaken something human in people. But this is not all!

I do not presume to judge the artistic merit of the new maestro, I will say about the civic position of Grebenshchikov. It is unlikely that the musician thought that Vladimir Putin would obey him and write the penitential Arseniy Yatsenyuk and Dmitry Yarosh. However, the song is written. For what? Wanted to clear your conscience? Like, I did not say anything in this “mournful hour for Russia” and spoke out! Or does the corporate ethics of creative intellectual demand it: whatsoever the authorities do is everything bad? Whatever the case, there is no need to talk about any civic position of Grebenshchikov: there is just a position.

Supported the Maidan scandalous and loving Zemfira song "Vidpusti". Lives like a diva in Russia, but supported Bandera! I would also like to know - why?

Some Russian cinematographers were totally out of place. The members of Kinosoyuz received an appeal from their Ukrainian colleagues, who called on their Russian colleagues to “say no to plans to disunite our peoples, to sow hostility, which could have a catastrophic effect on our great and glorious art.”

Our respondents quite sincerely answered: “We read your letter with pain and listened to your message ...” And it went and went ... Here, in general, not a word, or slander, addressed to the government of the country in which they, these film figures, live: “we ... categorically against the lies in the coverage of events that are fateful for Ukraine "," we are too much connected to believe the concocted propaganda "," do not doubt us "," we ... with you. "

Strange thing: instead of saying “STOP” to the Right Sector! - Ukrainian cultural figures for some reason wrote a petition to Moscow.

Reached And Khazan

In the meantime, a letter was posted on the website of the Ministry of Culture in support of the position of Vladimir Putin, under which more than 80 figures of Russian culture put their signatures. This so outraged the liberal intelligentsia, that they even began to ask the signatories for an explanation of why they did it.

The presenters of the TV channel “Rain” and the cinema worker Vitaly Mansky, who was present there, literally stuffed Khazanov with their questions, which, apparently, they considered to be very sharp. But Gennady Viktorovich do not put a finger in his mouth. He popularly explained to the "peacekeepers" that there are no decrees of the Russian president about the start of hostilities in Ukraine.

On Mansky’s remark that Russia with its policy towards Ukraine provoked the Maidan and about fanning the image of “fascists” in our country, Khazanov said that his concert was canceled once in the small town of Nesterov in the west of Ukraine .

By the way, the very message of Mansky that “Russia provoked the Maidan” makes you think about this person as an active participant in the “fifth column” - so brazenly lying on the air!

THE GREAT ARTIST OF THE GREAT AND IN ERROR

Curious Alexander Sokurov. A person who makes it very difficult to perceive cinema and, it would seem, who should be well versed in the psychology of people, said that he was "stunned by the unanimity of the Federation Council on the use of the Russian armed forces in Ukraine".

On the Kinosoyuz website, Sokurov writes: “It feels like everyone is so in love with a military solution to the issue. I am amazed by this absolute love for war. ” The fact that deputies and senators are “in love” with historical justice was not thought of by Sokurov. And the fact that the behavior of the ever-yulyuyushih Ukrainian authorities "got enough" among us literally everyone is also a fact, and it would be nice for Sokurov to know about this. And the fact that almost 97% of the Crimean population wished to live in Russia, and not in Ukraine, the master probably just forgot about it.

Why, say, in Switzerland, German, French, Italian and Romansh are peacefully side by side? Why in Canada, English and French have equal status in parliament, in federal court and state institutions and no one there on this issue is not satisfied with military coups?

Why is the official language in Norway - Norwegian, but in a number of communes of Troms and Finnmark the Sami language has equal status with it (and there are only 40 thousands out of five million people in the country!). And why in Oslo, in protest, no one is satisfied with barricades and does not smash shops?

Why are these countries quietly developing and have reached such a level of well-being that Ukraine, with its intolerance to everything (and language is only a “test” of the pen!), Cannot be achieved in the foreseeable future. Even if she crawls into the European Union. Why did the Ukrainians, namely the Ukrainians, and not the Ukrainians, start restoring order in the country not from the trial of the embezzled officials and businessmen, but from the "solution" of the so-called language problem?

I can not agree with the thesis that “we are not one people with Ukrainians, we are different. We have internally different cultures. No wonder Ukrainians have always wanted to live as a separate state. Yes, we are close, we have a lot of similarities, but this does not mean that we are one people. It's not like that at all. We are different and we need to respect and appreciate this difference. ”

Why does Sokurov stress precisely the difference, and not the similarity of our peoples? After all, history indicates the opposite. By the way, Russia has never denied the special identity of the inhabitants of the western regions - let them live with the Poles and practice Catholicism.

FOR MAKAREVICH CRIMEA - "FOREIGN EARTH"
Not left aside, Andrei Makarevich. He and Alexander Kutikov signed a petition to the Russian authorities and citizens of the two states. The petition was posted on the website Change.org, obviously believing that the president and the prime minister begin their working day by viewing this particular site.

Makarevich syndrome

Member of the "Peace March" Andrei Makarevich.


The text is such that even a minute and at least star wars will begin: “After several days of disturbing reading News we gradually realize that what is happening in Crimea (which Makarevich doesn’t like what is happening in Crimea?) is not an optical illusion or a bad dream. One of the worst scenarios for the development of the Ukrainian crisis is beginning to come true, which, according to Galich, is “our tanks again on a foreign land” (Crimea has never been a foreign land for us, and our tanks are not there, no need to lie!). We demand that the Russian authorities immediately and unconditionally ... withdraw all armed formations from the territory of Ukraine.

We appeal to our fellow citizens: do not believe the official propaganda and do not support the war! “Protecting interests” is only a cover for a political game ... We have to show the Ukrainians (whom does Makarevich mean by Ukrainians: zapadentsy or residents of the eastern regions?) That in Russia there is another point of view, other than propaganda of power, and other arguments besides tanks.

Now, more than ever, it is important to show respect for the historical choice of the neighbors (they made the choice in 1991, and now there is a military coup!), Try to earn their respect. ”

Respect whom, may I ask? Oligarchs who financed the Maidan? Teams Turchinov, Yatsenyuk and other pastors of the West? Bandera Tyagnibok and all those pogrom forces that they personify? ..

SO, WHY DID THERE GAD THERE WHERE YOU LIVE?
Boris Akunin - and where without him! - considers “Putin's militancy” a bluff, and the Russian army is not capable not only of conducting military operations on the territory of another country, but also of protecting its own borders. Thanks too for the kind words, Grigori Shalvovich Chkhartishvili!

And then the writer launched nebestalanny horror stories: "In Russia there was a transition from autocracy to plutocratic police state and dictatorship." Such clever, but meaningless words!

What finally killed me Akunin, so this is his concern, expressed on the site: after the introduction of sanctions against Russia, you, dear Russians, will be deprived of the opportunity to relax in the resorts of Spain, Italy and other countries - what about what and lousy about the bath!

And so, watching the attempts of the creative intelligentsia to blacken the Russian president, distort the essence of his decisions, misinterpret the motivation of his behavior, involuntarily recall the painter Kuzma Petrov-Vodkin, who said that "... the artistic world is divided into its" classes ": talent and lack of talent". And how talented these people are in their business, they are just as untalented by their citizenship. Since they do not understand that any nastiness addressed to the president will sooner or later turn out to be nastiness towards the country. So why shit where you live, gentlemen of art?

Despite the great desire of part of the liberal intelligentsia to protect Ukrainians before the “aggression” of Russia, they must remember two circumstances. Firstly, that the ideology of the “Right Sector” (fed up, by the way, by the old-new head of the SBU V. Nalyvaychenko) is permeated with deep hatred for everything non-Ukrainian. And, secondly, that they, pyatokolonnisty, for followers of Dmitro Yarosh will always remain Muscovites and pro-Western slush. With all the sad consequences of this fact.

And the last. It became known that a certain initiative group was going to hold the Congress of Intellectuals "Against the war, against self-isolation of Russia, against the restoration of totalitarianism." As we see, "... and the fight continues again, and the heart is anxious in the chest, Obama is always in his board, and the dollar is always ahead." And therefore the “fifth column” will always have a job!
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  1. Gerach
    Gerach April 12 2014 07: 06
    +136
    SALE Traitor to his country! Let him forget about his concerts!
    1. Canep
      Canep April 12 2014 07: 11
      +92
      For me, he died, but about the dead either good or nothing.
      1. Kazakh
        Kazakh April 12 2014 07: 26
        +41
        Quote: Canep
        For me, he died, but about the dead either good or nothing.
        The controversial issue of Bender Shukhevych was silent and only a few said good results. If you and I stop talking about Vlasov badly, it will be the same.
        1. domokl
          domokl April 12 2014 07: 36
          +95
          A creative person has the right to his own vision of the situation. But a citizen of a country must either be with the country, or go where the first paragraph is fulfilled ...
          We talked for a long time about the fact that creative intelligentsia is the color of the nation ... As the CPSU used to be, the Mind, honor and conscience of the country ... We didn’t just say, we also hung orders on our chests ... And what did we get?
          But we got that this very creative .... believed in its impunity, in its greatness and the right to speak on behalf of the people.
          I think that all these cases need to be investigated ... When a kid goes out and shouts Glory to the heroes, this is one thing ... But when a famous person comes out and pours water on the people (namely the people, not Putin and the authorities.) With shit, the people must decide for themselves simple task-Do we need such figures?
          It seems to me that I don’t need it. I’m probably becoming a radical, although it seems that with age they more often become conservatives, but I need to ask everyone why? Why did I spit in the soul of the people and why in this case you live next to these people ...?
          1. Canep
            Canep April 12 2014 07: 51
            +69
            Quote: domokl
            In this case, you live next to this people ...?

            Now I began to understand why Brezhnev deprived people of citizenship and sent the kada away.
            1. Mareman Vasilich
              Mareman Vasilich April 12 2014 11: 23
              +26
              I, my friend, have long understood this. Even the post-Stalinist USSR took great care of the moral and moral character of its citizens. 80s does not count. Only they were loyal. Scum, like the one described above, must be cut under the root. The current government allows a miscalculation, in my opinion, admitting them to the television network and to the central media, this is very far from the mark. These scum must be destroyed.

              "All this
              obvious counterrevolutionaries, accomplices of the Entente, the organization of its servants and spies and corrupted
              calf youth. It is necessary to put the matter so that these “military spies” are caught and
              to be caught constantly and systematically and expelled abroad, ”the proletarian wrote
              leader."
              VI Lenin
              1. smart Fox
                smart Fox April 12 2014 19: 18
                +31
                E. Guys, be careful with the words.
                Makarevich is definitely wrong, it turned out that all the songs of his bullshit with beautiful words. slogans and so-so melody. Not Lermontov, not Mayakovsky, not Rachmaninoff. He probably understands this himself, so he wants to at least show himself in something.
                But here are the words that such people must be cut, shot and deprived of citizenship - this is rhetoric from Euromaidan. So pravoseki deal with their enemies. Are you from this gang? No.
                Do you know what Makarevich and Grebenshchikov are most afraid of? Oblivion. Forget what they are. I don’t know who they are, I have never heard. They are not interesting to me !!!!
                1. Natrix
                  Natrix April 13 2014 08: 18
                  +12
                  Quote: Sly Fox
                  Do you know what Makarevich and Grebenshchikov are most afraid of? Oblivion. Forget what they are. I don’t know who they are, I have never heard. They are not interesting to me !!!!

                  Fully join. They are like last year's snow.
                2. DedaSascha
                  DedaSascha April 15 2014 18: 50
                  0
                  The top ten!
              2. cheega69
                cheega69 April 14 2014 11: 19
                +2
                You cannot drive these underground and heroize them. Shit is supposed to swim on top in order to get rid of at the right time. In peacetime, they are useless; in war, they are dangerous. Well, let their like-minded people come closer to them, more compact. It will be easier for us.
            2. niki233
              niki233 April 12 2014 16: 41
              +6
              Quote: Canep
              Quote: domokl
              In this case, you live next to this people ...?

              Now I began to understand why Brezhnev deprived people of citizenship and sent the kada away.

              I think it is necessary to raise the question of the termination of dual citizenship, and those who oppose the people and against the country's policy will be deprived of their citizenship, and they will be sent out especially zealous from the country.
              1. Ulus5
                Ulus5 April 12 2014 22: 17
                +4
                Quote: niki233
                I think we need to raise the issue of ending dual citizenship,

                And how great it sounded: "I am a citizen of only one great country, the Russian Federation!"
              2. DedaSascha
                DedaSascha April 15 2014 19: 00
                0
                Actually, there is a wise old saying on this subject: "Protect your friends and keep them close to you. And keep your enemies even closer." The point is (about enemies) that at any moment you can send them to where they will not return. And in another country, "especially zealous" on their former homeland will get so much shit, get tired of scraping. And I don’t want to spend energy on this, the country has more important tasks.
          2. elga5
            elga5 April 12 2014 08: 20
            +34
            Where are these people needed and where can they have what they have? That’s all their abominable essence-exist at the expense of the people who spit.
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet April 13 2014 10: 19
              +1
              Yes, they forgot from whose hands they eat!
          3. Nick
            Nick April 12 2014 08: 36
            +14
            Quote: domokl
            but you need to ask everyone, Why? Why did he spat in the soul of the people and why in this case you live next to these people ...?

            Because personal gain makes them do this ... Vile little people ..
            1. atalef
              atalef April 12 2014 10: 05
              -67%
              Quote: Nick
              Because personal gain makes them do this ... Vile little people ..

              Interesting . What Makar earned - expressing his point of view?
              That's exactly it. that he expressed it (I'm not talking about the correctness or not of his opinion). knowing. that in addition to trouble, it will bring him nothing - it deserves respect.
              I understand . it was much easier, as in the USSR, at meetings to raise a hand of approval. and at home in the kitchen say the opposite.
              1. O_RUS
                O_RUS April 12 2014 10: 34
                +13
                Quote: atalef
                Interesting . What Makar earned - expressing his point of view?


                maybe he doesn’t want to be forgotten, but as an artist, I think he doesn’t care how he gets it.
                1. atalef
                  atalef April 12 2014 10: 41
                  -44%
                  Quote: O_RUS
                  may not want to be forgotten

                  Makar forgot? How old are you ? How can you forget what you grew up on

                  Quote: O_RUS
                  and as an artist, I think he doesn’t care how he gets it

                  Makar is at such a level (as an artist. Yes, and by age) that he (and this is clear) does not give a damn about PR.
                  His classroom was. there is and will be. Well, and if it (as you say) was PR - rather an anti-PR. I would call.
                  So what is gesheft - would our compatriots ask?
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 11: 03
                    +23
                    Quote: atalef
                    Makar forgot? How old are you ? How can you forget what you grew up on

                    41, especially when I never loved him
                    1. atalef
                      atalef April 12 2014 11: 26
                      -36%
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      41, especially when I never loved him

                      I’m a little more, I think I’m not lying. if I say that a whole layer of those born in the USSR were grown on his songs.
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 11: 39
                        +26
                        and the bed didn’t listen to him, so we won’t.
                      2. archi.sailor
                        archi.sailor April 12 2014 12: 48
                        +24
                        I agree with you, vehemently plyusuyu. Samom 42 and I grew up on the Civil Defense. Makar for me, a miserable popsar hi
                      3. podpolkovnik
                        podpolkovnik April 14 2014 15: 34
                        +2
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        and the bed didn’t listen to him, so we won’t.

                        Absolutely true!
                    2. Black
                      Black April 12 2014 13: 39
                      +29
                      Quote: atalef
                      I'm a little more


                      I'm 50. I "remember how it all began", I remember "Stew ..." in the Komsomolskaya Pravda, I remember how in a construction brigade in a remote taiga in the pouring rain they laid the bed under the "turn" ...
                      I seem to be from that "layer" about which you are talking.
                      So here. Makar has earned everything that is possible, packed, and I don’t think that he has a question of earning concerts. And here he doesn’t lose, he would have lost - it’s not yet a fact that he would have miscalculated.
                      It seems that the point is different. To be with the authorities, to be with the people among the "high intelligentsia" is not comme il faut. The life of such people is a get-together, to be outside of it, to be shaken by hands in the environment of a "high culture of being" - that's scary for them. After all, they began to earn there. "Diver" is clean before the party, before the people (for whom he sang), before the country (which fed, hung the madals, for some unknown reason - probably for loyalty), - he dived without a mask into the drain pit and will now remain there for life.
                      According to Sokurov .... Have you seen his "Moloch"?
                      But he, together with Hitler's colleagues, "understands", he is looking for him in each of us?
                      Don't you think that "understanding" is also "forgiveness"?
                    3. joum
                      joum April 12 2014 13: 50
                      +7
                      He was just at that time one of the few "allowed" to be shown on TV as a "dissident". Because, in fact, he never was. The fact that there were many of his songs does not mean at all that they meant something to someone. The same layer was grown on Rotaru, Pugacheva and Kobzon. I am also over forty, and I think I will not lie that he was mostly popular with girls in elementary grades - we then rewrote his songs in batches, simply because he was younger than his pop colleagues. Actually, like Leontyev, and Yak Yola and others like them. And now - look at the "Protestants" - they just got out of the material and are trying with all their might to appear at least somewhere, at least in some way, for any reason.
                    4. Sergey Vl.
                      Sergey Vl. April 14 2014 04: 49
                      +2
                      I visited his concerts, but I was brought up not on MashVr songs. In each of us, the basis for the perception of music is folk culture. Here I rummaged in my PC - a lot of folk music (even in jazz processing), but there are no Makarevich songs. You can see the time of the MVR songs has passed, and to Andrey V. ABIDNA, YES ?!
                    5. cheega69
                      cheega69 April 14 2014 11: 35
                      +3
                      Exactly what Grew. And he grew up, became an ordinary Euro-burger. And suddenly the prospect of the failure of a familiar life loomed. Favorite cars, restaurants
                      trips to favorite places. The prospect of loss of comfort. It got bogged down, what if the truth happens?
                    6. vovan1949
                      vovan1949 April 15 2014 20: 54
                      +2
                      I'm 64. I like his 3-4 songs, but I have never been a fan of him, and, to be honest, I have never met people who considered him a "star" of the first magnitude. This is not Magomayev or Kobzon. And as a person - this is, in my opinion, cheap, dodgy and opportunistic. For people like him, there is no concept of Motherland, Fatherland. This is a clear representative of the fifth column and I believe that people like him should be politely asked to leave Russia.
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                  2. podpolkovnik
                    podpolkovnik April 14 2014 15: 33
                    +2
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Quote: atalef
                    Makar forgot? How old are you ? How can you forget what you grew up on

                    41, especially when I never loved him

                    Similarly, join ... hi
                2. Roman 1977
                  Roman 1977 April 12 2014 11: 05
                  +24
                  Somehow like this...
                  1. podpolkovnik
                    podpolkovnik April 14 2014 15: 37
                    +6
                    Quote: Novel 1977
                    Somehow like this...

                    No, that's it!
                    1. ArhipenkoAndrey
                      ArhipenkoAndrey April 15 2014 11: 06
                      0
                      Zvereva is not enough to complete the European picture.
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                4. Sandov
                  Sandov April 12 2014 11: 12
                  +14
                  Quote: atalef
                  His classroom was. is and will be

                  This is a bust, after his antics I doubt your opinion.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef April 12 2014 11: 28
                    -24%
                    Quote: Sandov
                    This is a bust, after his antics I doubt your opinion.

                    you see, you also doubt the same, and I don’t burn you for this with a red-hot iron and do not blame all the grave ones.
                    And as for your (as well as my opinion) - time will show that I always say
                    catch the flow of my thoughts hi
                    1. Roman-kzn
                      Roman-kzn April 12 2014 16: 08
                      +15
                      I would like to ask you, as a citizen of Israel, what is your country's attitude to such representatives of the liberal "intelligentsia" who organize demonstrations demanding the return of the seized land to the Palestinians, the withdrawal of Israeli troops, accusations of the country's leadership of an aggressive policy towards neighboring states?
                    2. atalef
                      atalef April 12 2014 19: 25
                      -7
                      Roman-kzn Today, 16:08 ↑
                      I would like to ask you, as a citizen of Israel, what is your country's attitude to such representatives of the liberal "intelligentsia" who organize demonstrations demanding the return of the seized land to the Palestinians, the withdrawal of Israeli troops, accusations of the country's leadership of an aggressive policy towards neighboring states?
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                      Absolutely normal, I constantly see them in the news and hear their opinion on the radio, just like the parties with such an opinion are represented in the Knesset - Merz, Avoda and Tnua. So far they are in the minority and cannot influence politics. When they form a government (as it was 12 years ago, but the palaces have cast them all the same) then there will be a conversation.
                      The elections will win - this is democracy, which means it supports the majority, my opinion (if you are interested) is the first to come to the world and the state doesn’t want to explain this for a long time - trust my experience
                    3. Evgeniy-111
                      Evgeniy-111 April 15 2014 09: 30
                      +1
                      Well, yes, violations and falsifications (? !!) at the elections in Russia are the greatest SHAME, and the same thing in Ukraine is the SAMPLE of democracy ?? !!
                  2. andersen
                    andersen April 13 2014 23: 28
                    +2
                    In Israel, they are planting, planting ... but for so long that .... they can be sent to the liberated Palestinian lands.
                5. andersen
                  andersen April 13 2014 23: 21
                  +1
                  I join and respect your name about people of creativity; they are over politics, they are so stained with creativity that they can’t think objectively, Andrei Vladimirovich is an example. I could go to Crimea by the way, I would sing my song about how to bend the world ..., for one I would tell Crimeans about my opinion about joining. Good luck to you, our revolutionary Andryushka ... Good luck!
                6. Sergey Vl.
                  Sergey Vl. April 14 2014 04: 57
                  +1
                  Patronymic Makarevich Vadimovich. But not in the Fatherland ...
            2. andersen
              andersen April 13 2014 23: 12
              0
              Of course, Makar will have listeners, traitors and interchangeers.
          4. thrower
            thrower April 12 2014 11: 53
            +16
            39, do you remember Zhenya Belousov, Strelka and Combination groups, Larisa Chernikova and Marina Zhuravleva?

            Imagine forgot about them. And forget about Makarevich and Shevchuk.

            Of all the Russian rock of the 2000s, I can only remember Kipelova, with "I am free"
            1. atalef
              atalef April 12 2014 12: 03
              -7
              Quote: thrower
              Of all the Russian rock of the 2000s, I can only remember Kipelova, with "I am free"

              And I DDT (like earlier. The same movie, Aria) - In general, musical preferences are strictly individual
              In the 90s, people on the Italian stage also died according to Slave Isaur - well, where are they now?
              1. thrower
                thrower April 12 2014 12: 12
                +6
                So I’m talking about something that we forget and don’t remember.
              2. Darn
                Darn April 13 2014 08: 11
                0
                I'm off topic, I liked Karl Year. wink
            2. smart Fox
              smart Fox April 12 2014 19: 25
              +10
              Maybe Tsoi, but he died early. This is a paradox. the man died, and the songs are sung, but with Makarevich the opposite is true - he is alive, and the songs are dead, he killed them himself.
            3. Yasondinalt
              Yasondinalt April 14 2014 22: 55
              +1
              Old songs are remembered, and new ones are just as if nobody would sing in parks on benches!
          5. O_RUS
            O_RUS April 12 2014 15: 06
            +15
            Quote: atalef
            Makar forgot?


            yes ... and what exactly surprises you? My grandfather died in the fight against fascism.

            Quote: atalef
            How can you forget what you grew up on


            I grew up - visiting the Eternal Flame, on views of wooden and stone architecture, museums of Odessa, Simferopol and Sevastopol ....

            Rock ... is that familiar? I’ll forget Makar and I won’t regret it!
          6. Manul
            Manul April 12 2014 15: 21
            +12
            Quote: atalef
            His audience was. is and will be.

            Oh, oh .. I’m for example a musician, I don’t know how many songs of various genres I can’t calculate. But now I don’t want to sing songs of Makarevich. And here no creative solidarity saves. So the audience has thinned out a lot - I'm sure of that.
            1. atalef
              atalef April 12 2014 19: 31
              -16%
              Manul Today, 15:21 PM ↑
              Quote: atalef
              His audience was. is and will be.
              Oh, oh .. I’m for example a musician, I don’t know how many songs of various genres I can’t calculate. But now I don’t want to sing songs of Makarevich. And here no creative solidarity saves. So the audience has thinned out a lot - I'm sure of that.

              Well, I do not want to perform and do not. as you want, I hope in the restaurant, if I want to hear his song, I have enough money so that someone from your fraternity will play it for me hi
              1. Manul
                Manul April 13 2014 00: 17
                +7
                Quote: atalef
                Well, I do not want to perform and do not. as you want, I hope in the restaurant, if I want to hear his song, I have enough money so that someone from your fraternity will play it for me

                Firstly, you distort - the conversation was originally about whether Makar lost his audience or not. Secondly, be mentally prepared for the fact that you may come across a musician who will follow the principle and will not perform Makaronych for you. My friend somehow (I don’t remember what years, but shaggy - either the end of the 90s, or the beginning of the 2000s) was not going to play or sing Vladimir Central for any bandiuk in any way. They raised the price to 300 bucks. Then the threats of physical reprisal came into play (by the way, he is no different from the physical article, so he could not give any rebuff). But they could not force him. Do you understand the principles? (By the way, those peppers gave 500 bucks as a result of farewell. For the principles.)
              2. doctorVlad
                doctorVlad April 15 2014 09: 46
                -1
                And what, took it? Some of your friend’s principles are not fundamental.
        2. smart Fox
          smart Fox April 12 2014 19: 20
          +7
          I'm also 41, but I wonder who would Vysotsky be with?
          1. Darn
            Darn April 13 2014 08: 15
            +1
            Ovet in his songs.
            PS And really Cunning Fox.
          2. pavlo
            pavlo April 15 2014 00: 31
            +1
            Well, about penal battalions, he also went too far - he used all the rumors.
        3. Ulus5
          Ulus5 April 12 2014 22: 20
          +11
          Quote: atalef
          Makar is at such a level (as an artist. Yes, and by age) that he (and this is clear) does not give a damn about PR.
          His classroom was. is and will be.

          Already minus one, it's me. Now Makar and his "Machine" are dead for me. And I no longer listen to his songs, and threw all the records to hell.
          I have such a choice .... do not be fooled.
          1. Akulina
            Akulina April 13 2014 21: 53
            +6
            Already minus two is me. There is a proposal - to send Messrs. Makarevich and Grebenshchikov in a sealed carriage to Ukraine, it is better to go directly to the West - they will be loved there like relatives and will reject anti-Semitism en masse.
        4. Moka
          Moka April 13 2014 05: 40
          +2
          I am not inclined to discuss the actions of specific individuals, since much and more has been said, but if it is not difficult for you to answer, here is the question for you, how would you, with a moral and patriotic component, assess the situation in which public and popular people during a period of acute confrontation with the Arab countries (read - Israel's obvious enemies) and their sympathizers (read - hidden opponents), using their position tirelessly in the media and on all sorts of other communication platforms, would drive into the weak minds of the younger generation and overripe brains of fans of the whole protest thought about that Jerusalem and all territories returned to the fold of Israel since the restoration of the Jewish state must be immediately given to the Arabs, all personnel and military equipment must be withdrawn, not only from the territories that are required to be given, but also from all territories adjacent to the Arab countries, to respond with peaceful diplomacy to violence over the Jewish population, and in the case of installation, armed by the forces of Arab countries in the immediate vicinity of the borders of Israel, strategic strike complexes and missile defense systems do not raise a fuss, since this is the territory of sovereign Arab states and much more in a similar vein, defining themselves as truth-tellers and champions of human values, and not willing blood-hungry stupid puppets ? What creative achievements of the translators of such ideas will help to digest all the "benefits" of the "saving" consequences for the state of such activities? And what if in Israel many "especially gifted cultural workers" and "public activists of liberal inclination" the word patriot were constantly attacked and mocked ....?
        5. Natrix
          Natrix April 13 2014 08: 24
          +1
          I think that his audience will be greatly reduced. The very "bl" about which he spoke in an interview with "Rain" will leave her. Only the most "advanced" will remain.
        6. Lelek
          Lelek April 14 2014 17: 30
          +2
          Gesheft is like broth when boiling eggs. And the audience is at the "time machine", as at the ensemble (samble. Odnblja). lol
      2. ittr
        ittr April 14 2014 16: 44
        +1
        there is such a term "dem.jiza" Most of all Novodvorskaya and Akhedzhakova fit it. And Makarevich too
    2. Sandov
      Sandov April 12 2014 10: 39
      +3
      Quote: atalef
      I understand . it was much easier, as in the USSR, at meetings to raise a hand of approval. and at home in the kitchen say the opposite.

      Avigdor Eskin spoke out more logically and more honestly on this subject.
      1. atalef
        atalef April 12 2014 11: 03
        -14%
        Quote: Sandov
        Avigdor Eskin spoke out more logically and more honestly on this subject.

        Here, Eskin is mentioned all the time - practically unknown to Israel - but now PR in the Russian Federation.
        A man of extreme right views. having a certain number of his supporters, expressing his opinion exclusively - to which he also has the right. but with which (as I think 0 percent 80. Israelis do not agree.
        He had attempts to become some kind of local deputy and even slip into the Knesset - nowhere. didn’t score anything.
        1. Sandov
          Sandov April 12 2014 11: 16
          +7
          Quote: atalef
          A man of extreme right views. having a certain number of his supporters, expressing his opinion exclusively

          Here, perhaps I agree with you. But as they say your man. You decide. And where do you order macaroni? I stupidly broke firewood with a fool.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 12 2014 11: 30
            -6
            Quote: Sandov
            Here, perhaps I agree with you. But as they say your man. You decide

            And why should we decide, for his far-right position, no one has obstructed him. Here for the attempts to plant pork heads in the mosque - he was arrested.
            A breeze, but on health.
            Jews generally have 2 people - 3 opinions.
          2. atalef
            atalef April 12 2014 11: 31
            +5
            Quote: Sandov
            And where do you order macaroni? I stupidly broke firewood with a fool.

            Mistaken - he will understand, he will not understand - with this he will die - if he didn’t make a mistake, others will understand.
            this will end.
    3. gispanec
      gispanec April 12 2014 10: 40
      +7
      Quote: atalef
      I understand . it was much easier, as in the USSR, at meetings to raise a hand of approval. and at home in the kitchen say the opposite.

      but it turns out you and your parents did just that ??
      1. atalef
        atalef April 12 2014 11: 05
        -12%
        Quote: gispanec
        but it turns out you and your parents did just that ??

        Like everyone else, did you believe in the ideals of communism? In the late 80s, say?
        Me not .
        1. Sandov
          Sandov April 12 2014 11: 41
          +36
          Quote: atalef
          Like everyone else, did you believe in the ideals of communism? In the late 80s, say?
          Me not .

          I was born in the USSR and the ideals of communism are in my blood. The union gave me everything - education, work, housing, social security. Capitalism has taken everything away. Now he wants to take away his MOTHERLAND. Will not work!
          1. atalef
            atalef April 12 2014 11: 49
            -8
            Quote: Sandov
            Quote: atalef
            Like everyone else, did you believe in the ideals of communism? In the late 80s, say?
            Me not .

            I was born in the USSR and the ideals of communism are in my blood. The union gave me everything - education, work, housing, social security. Capitalism has taken everything away. Now he wants to take away his MOTHERLAND. Will not work!

            Socialism has given me a lot - thanks, capitalism has given me even more. By the way, my children live much better in capitalism than I do under socialism (to be honest) the truth is that I have to dig in like a horse - but work doesn’t intimidate me - because - as they say everything is in your hands and there are practically no borders.
            This is it. which was not the case under socialism. And this is again my individual opinion, which corresponds to my personal attitude, social and material situation. I am better under capitalism - at least everything is honest and clear. But this is for me. I would never live under socialism as I live under capitalism. That's just never. at least turn over 150 times in the air and be the director of a plant or collective farm.
            Well, sorry.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 11: 52
              +10
              Quote: atalef
              .I would never live under socialism as I live under capitalism. That's just never. at least turn over 150 times in the air and be the director of a plant or collective farm.

              If you were a part of the Kremlin and held a post there, then you would never be able to live as luxuriously under capitalism as you could live under socialism.
              In China, socialism and everything is possible there.
              Hi wink
            2. atalef
              atalef April 12 2014 12: 07
              -5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              If you were a part of the Kremlin and held a post there, then you would never be able to live as luxuriously under capitalism as you could live under socialism.

              Sasha, and how much did they enter this Kremlin? By the way, we are talking about socialism or about some semblance of socialism that flourished in the USSR

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              In China, socialism and everything is possible there.

              In China, socialism - and there is no nichrome. Try to leave the village and register in the city. give birth to more than one child, etc. By the way, my cousin lives and works in Hong Kong, already 12 years old. So, just a simple Chinese to get to Hong Kong is simply not realistic - you need a visa, but Hongkong. like Macau and as far as economic zones - this is China. And you say everything is possible.
              Hi San !!!!!!! hi
          2. Natrix
            Natrix April 13 2014 08: 31
            0
            And under capitalism, do you have a better life before Putin or during the Putin-Medvedev tandem?
      2. joum
        joum April 12 2014 14: 34
        +3
        Don't speak for everyone. My mother believed and tried to the end and from the heart "to build a bright future." I did not believe and was actively running into trouble, due to the inability to speak only in the kitchen. But at the end of the 80s it was already quite safe, all the same - some kind of sanctions, such as the current pensions against us. Well, they were going to expel me from the Komsomol three times. Only it always turned out that I had forgotten to enter there. Well, they will mutter something, they will scare you ... But do not pretend to be an oppressed underground hero. Then there was no longer an urgent need for a kitchen dissidence. Yes, in fact, even before that, not everything is the same as with Solzhenitsyn. Mom always worked on the party line, and while she was some kind of Komsomol chairman, she personally excluded my future dad from him)) He never joined the party and I vaguely remember some gatherings of bearded intelligent uncles. I don't really remember what was discussed there - something about politics, of course, and not to say that in a whisper - I was small, but I remember that there were mainly engineers and even diplomats, and his brother, who was also present there in time of arrival, worked at the UN.
      3. vovan1949
        vovan1949 April 15 2014 21: 07
        0
        I believe. There is no alternative to socialism (communism). What is capitalism - I see now with my own eyes. I speak of a socio-economic formation.
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  2. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 11: 03
    +12
    Quote: atalef
    I understand . it was much easier, as in the USSR, at meetings to raise a hand of approval. and at home in the kitchen say the opposite.

    interesting, but what did Makarevich say at the meetings ?!
    1. atalef
      atalef April 12 2014 11: 18
      -6
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      interesting, but what did Makarevich say at the meetings ?!

      And how did he differ from others? All were the same for the Communist Party, the USSR and Lenin.
      I think he pulled a hand like GDP, Shoigu and Rogozin.
      Although maybe a little less.
      All the same, the KGB of one and the Komsomol past of the other two obliged to pull higher than the others
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 11: 40
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        And how did he differ from others? All were the same for the Communist Party, the USSR and Lenin.

        then it’s not necessary to pour shit
        Quote: atalef
        All the same, the KGB of one and the Komsomol past of the other two obliged to pull higher than the others

        how do you know that?
        1. atalef
          atalef April 12 2014 13: 17
          -1
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          then it’s not necessary to pour shit

          Tell me. to me . were there any things in your life that you regret or say. What did you do wrong in general? Or as you have - since it was. it’s right and point

          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          how do you know that?

          I have lived quite a lot and am somehow sure. that before reaching that to the Komsomol bonza. as for work in the KGB, loyalty to the ideals of Lenin and the Communist Party should have been a little firmer. than the musician has some sort of VIA.
      2. Natrix
        Natrix April 13 2014 08: 36
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        interesting, but what did Makarevich say at the meetings ?!

        And how did he differ from others? All were the same for the Communist Party, the USSR and Lenin.
        I think he pulled a hand like GDP, Shoigu and Rogozin.
        Although maybe a little less.
        All the same, the KGB of one and the Komsomol past of the other two obliged to pull higher than the others

        So, now he has to thank Putin - after all, he made it possible to distinguish himself bully
  3. RAA
    RAA April 12 2014 11: 06
    +12
    Makar earned the privilege of speaking in the Baltic states, in Ukraine, Georgia, the EU, and the USA.
  4. satellite
    satellite April 12 2014 11: 37
    +13
    Makarevich lost more, I'm not interested in him as a person now, he blurted out complete nonsense. Crimea has never been a Ukrainian territory, there was the same bast shoe Khrushchev who gave Crimea to Ukraine for the anniversary, I am already silent about the fact that there was no quorum for making such a decision, but this is already history. As an educated, public person, a person can show complete ignorance of the issue on which he expresses his opinion, it is not clear to me, probably "caved in under the changing world"
  5. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 12 2014 11: 58
    +11
    Quote: atalef
    That's exactly it. that he expressed it (I'm not talking about the correctness or not of his opinion). knowing. that in addition to trouble, it will bring him nothing - it deserves respect.

    Well, and if someone says: "Heil Hitler!", Or: "The fascists are good fellows who destroyed the snickering Jews," or: "the good fascists fed the Jews with red caviar, and those bastards slandered the good fascists" - you will too to respect such people? They honestly expressed their sincere opinion; and such opinions exist because there are people who hold such opinions. Respect also people who claim that the Jewish aggressors have seized the original Arab lands and it is necessary, in the name of historical justice, either to expel the Jews or to destroy them. what to do: to support the "activists" that dream of including Russia as several states in the United States? Respect Novodvorskaya, who calls on the United States to send troops to Russia and shoot Putin, which earlier called on the defenders of the Moscow White House in 1993 to hang on all poles Moscow streets? WE WILL NOT RESPECT SUCH PEOPLE! Do you respect? Then, for sure, you do not respect yourself, they say about such people in Russia: "You are nobody, and there is no way to call you!"
    1. atalef
      atalef April 12 2014 12: 22
      -3
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Well, but if someone says: "Heil Hitler!", Or: "The fascists are great, they destroyed the snickering Jews"

      dear. read my comments carefully
      I said a person has the right to express his point of view (if this does not conflict with the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation)

      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Respect also people who claim that Jewish aggressors seized the original Arab lands and it is necessary, in the name of historical justice, to either expel the Jews or destroy

      the fact that the Jews are aggressors - such an opinion has a right to be. what needs to be destroyed - is in conflict with the Criminal Code (. Any discussion should have both an intellectual and legal framework)


      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      .And what should we do: support the "figures" that dream of including Russia as several states in the United States?

      Why it is necessary to hold someone or spread rot. You have a right as an opinion. and the rules agree with the opinion of the other or not. Give an opportunity to remain a person with your opinion or try to convince him of this.

      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Respect Novodvorskaya, now calling on the United States to send troops into Russia and shoot Putin, then earlier calling on the defenders of the Moscow "White House" in 1993 to hang on all the pillars of Moscow streets?

      Respect is generally a purely personal feeling, and making someone respect is not possible.
      By the way, if Novodvorskaya calls for such actions - why is the prosecutor's office silent?
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      WE WILL NOT RESPECT SUCH PEOPLE! Do you respect? Then, for sure, you do not respect yourself, they say about such people in Russia: "You are nobody, and there is no way to call you!"

      which ones? I generally Novodvorskaya on the drum and I have no opinion regarding her opinion, just as I have no opinion, let’s say about the pillar opposite my house.
      I generally respect or not a fairly small circle of people. for this you need to have a fairly large amount of information and a clearly formed opinion.
      Of the majority, I simply do not have a clear opinion
      By the way, about Makarevich.
      I always liked and will like his songs. and I respect him for his courage.
      For an opinion on the Crimea-it's all 1 matter of time. I have a wife from Kiev, and my twin sister has a husband from Simferopol (I myself am from St. Petersburg).
      They themselves (wife and brother-in-law) - plainly for nothing against. So they have relatives there and they call every day. Who am I. to criticize someone. if I don’t have a very clear opinion. hi
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I April 12 2014 15: 22
        +6
        Quote: atalef
        Why it is necessary to hold someone or spread rot. You have a right as an opinion. and the rules agree with the opinion of the other or not. Give an opportunity to remain a person with your opinion or try to convince him of this.

        And I, in general, have the same opinion. I did not think of offending you, but it turned out that I offended, which I regret and apologize about this: I got excited. I read your comment carefully enough and understood, but in the response I got a little excited- and here's why: you, my friend, apparently are a "democrat", but limited by the framework of the state Criminal Code. Moscow officials once issued a ban on the sale and use of "fascist" symbols: it turns out that everything was done "within the framework of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation" But the "automatic" turned out to be forbidden: the old Russian Kolovrat; souvenirs from Thailand and Vietnam, which I bought not as fascist, but as Buddhist symbols. What do you think is "true" democracy? Once a famous person said to his opponent: "I deeply hate your words, but I am ready to give my life so that you always have the right to express your opinion." That is, the opinion was expressed that prohibitions, in general, are not needed, but there should be such an effective "propaganda" in society on the topic: "what is good and what is bad ..."many "antisocial" opinions would not be widely expressed, not because of fear of any persecution (criminal, administrative), but because of the sharp rejection of this opinion by society (or at least the majority of society), Makarevich, of course, had the right to express their opinion, not accepted by a huge number of Russian citizens, without fear of any persecution, but, in the same way, these Russian citizens have the right to express their disagreement with the opinion of Makarevich even in a harsh form, which they did.
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I April 12 2014 16: 00
        +5
        Quote: atalef
        Respect is generally a purely personal feeling, and making someone respect is not possible.
        By the way, if Novodvorskaya calls for such actions - why is the prosecutor's office silent?

        And who are the judges? In 1993, even the Constitutional Court ruled that Yeltsin's actions were illegal, but Yeltsin had his own court; and Lenin's "communo-Bolshevism" replaced Lenin's "communal-Bolshevism" ("if revolutionary expediency requires breaking the law, then it must be broken," Yeltsin's "demo-Bolshevism" came (" if political expediency requires breaking the law, then it must be violated. "And how did they try to involve Yeltsin in a coup d'etat and nothing happened? Although it was clear to the" cook ": if" above "Yeltsin and" above "the RSFSR there were higher authorities: Gorbachev and USSR, then the actions of Yeltsin are a state coup. So the words of Novodvorskaya are "flowers"! Well, okay, that she pindela in 1993 (then the situation resembled the Ukrainian one in 2014: everyone called for the massacre of the communists and demolished monuments), but that's why Novodvorskaya UNPUNISHED now calls on "Bandera" to start a war against Russia, and the US to send NATO troops, I don't know.
      3. Flooding
        Flooding April 12 2014 16: 14
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        By the way, if Novodvorskaya calls for such actions - why is the prosecutor's office silent?

        Probably because it is difficult to perceive as an enemy.
        The enemy must be vile, treacherous, dangerous.
        The same person does not even cause pity.
        What could be worse for pro-Western humane friends of democracy of her appearances on TV? Let croaks ...
  6. Genry
    Genry April 12 2014 12: 00
    +8
    Quote: atalef

    Interesting . What Makar earned - expressing his point of view?

    With this question you are probably trying to cover up another question: "what is he afraid of losing?"
    But he has something to lose, and it is not stored in Russia.
    Anticipating your question, I’ll say: I don’t like to look into someone else’s pocket, therefore I don’t want to list specifically.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 12 2014 12: 25
      -7
      Quote: Genry
      With this question you are probably trying to cover up another question: "what is he afraid of losing?"

      Quote: Genry
      But he has something to lose, and it is not stored in Russia.

      Now everyone has it. what to lose. Or do you think the whole world was sitting and waiting. what Makar will say or not. in order to block his accounts. And if-for. then we will give a larger percentage on the deposit.
      In general, some kind of stupidity.
  7. host
    host April 12 2014 12: 04
    +10
    He just wants to curry favor with the Bourgeois so that they let him into the sea and his villa on the Cote d'Azur.
    Salvage defeated the singer and poet ... It happens!
    1. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR April 14 2014 17: 49
      0
      Makaronych needs a link to this discussion of his actions on VO, let him read what the people think of him.
      P.S. He always disliked the macaroni for his participation in the "Smak" program, when the whole country was almost starving, they cooked all sorts of bourgeois dishes on the TV, like so much time had passed, but the residue remained.
  8. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 April 12 2014 13: 01
    +7
    Do you really want to know? He earned money, and a lot. You see (of course you don’t know anything like that. Where would wink ?) The "project" method of solving the problems of the United States provides for the allocation of considerable funds for solving some problem. And the managers of these funds quite freely decide where and to whom to send them.
    In our country, NGOs have been pinched. Alas, this does not prevent you from putting any amount on an account in Europe (and this amount will also be wonderful because no program for searching for "black money" will ever touch this money, which increases their value many times over, the so-called net account) and transfer his details to whoever you want. Ivan Petrov will not be able to open such an account, but a famous and popular personality ...
    We also take into account the fact that Makarevich is very well paid for money ... No, Makarevich’s behavior does not deserve any respect.
  9. olviko
    olviko April 12 2014 13: 33
    +13
    "I wonder. What did Makar earn by expressing his point of view?"
    Or maybe it's easier? Petya Poroshenko, nicknamed the chocolate hare, and Seryozha Kunitsyn, the one who demanded to switch to the sale of energy and water for Crimea at world prices. , the experienced Time Machine fans helped Andryusha to have a diving club, a vineyard in the Crimea, and even a share for the brand drips from the factory, so Andryusha could not remain silent. Maybe I would like to, like smart colleagues, but I obliged the duty of friendship, especially since the sidekick went to success. And as now hindsight no fuss - they say, I'm not me - it's too late to jump off.
  10. joum
    joum April 12 2014 14: 24
    +3
    He expressed it even before one could have expected trouble about this. In any case, I heard his bubbling about before the Crimea. It’s just that everyone is talking - and he said ... fashionably, like in a trend. Yes, I didn’t guess, poor fellow.
  11. Nick
    Nick April 13 2014 23: 07
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Interesting . What Makar earned - expressing his point of view?

    1. What Makar earned, you need to ask him, but I think he will not tell the truth ...
    2. AND THIS IS HIS POINT OF VIEW ..?
  12. Roman Skomorokhov
    Roman Skomorokhov April 14 2014 22: 22
    0
    Quote: atalef
    That's exactly it. that he expressed it (I'm not talking about the correctness or not of his opinion). knowing. that in addition to trouble, it will bring him nothing - it deserves respect.


    Well, I don’t know how about respect there, but about his diving club near Sevastopol, a little villa in the highlands and a yacht - I saw, you know, I saw. The yacht, of course, is not like Abramovich’s, there’s no dispute, and the villa is not like Madonna’s. But there is. So, trochs.

    And now you have to pay taxes on all this. That’s the answer, why is he so ruined.
  13. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey April 15 2014 11: 00
    0
    Makar expressing his opinion wondered why these artists are always silent or approve when Russia is crushed and kicked at all levels, silent when the democratic Serdyukov destroyed his army, they had no time for them, and as soon as Russia planned to return to their vital interests and tried to protect the Russians, so this NOVODVORSKAYA pack of creative personalities surfaced with their own, as always anti-Russian opinion, European opinion and it seems to me they are more driven by the fear that they will not be allowed into Europe with America, generally hypocrisy or stupidity and hatred of everything Russian, or maybe they decided that they began to forget, so you need to light up, in general, selfish interests prevail here.
  14. DedaSascha
    DedaSascha April 15 2014 19: 05
    0
    Yes, in FIG he needs your respect! I, too - found a bonus. Passion is like a hunt for him. Or maybe cut off the headstock for free on a new scuba gear.
  • Lelek
    Lelek April 14 2014 17: 24
    +2
    Vile, i.e. not only vile by nature, but also creating dirty tricks. wassat
  • oracul
    oracul April 12 2014 08: 57
    +12
    Actually, the answer lies on the surface: only the recognition of the people serves as a measure of recognition of the talent of a person and his relevance. It is bad that this small stratum of public people is so divorced from the people that it not only preserves itself in the role of talents, even when their time has passed, but also generates its own kind from its own circle, not recalling those who actually gave birth to them - people.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 12 2014 09: 29
      +30
      Quote: oracul
      It is bad that this small stratum of public people is so divorced from the people that it not only preserves itself in the role of talents, even when their time has passed, but also generates its own kind from its own circle, not recalling those who actually gave birth to them - people.

      It’s just that they relate to the people as b.s. And if so, the recipe from Taras Bulba:
      "I gave birth to you, and I will kill you!"
      Boycott concerts!
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 09: 05
    +10
    Quote: domokl
    We talked for a long time about the fact that creative intelligence is the color of a nation ...

    Lenini said well about them
  • Patriot.ru.
    Patriot.ru. April 12 2014 09: 22
    +5
    The simplest answer is all paid. But it’s probably not the right one. It’s necessary to understand. Does Makarevich have children? Where live? Are they ashamed of their father? etc.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 12 2014 10: 09
      -18%
      Quote: Patriot.ru.
      I. Do Makarevich have children? Where live? Are they ashamed of their father? etc.

      Makarevich’s children live in Russia, unlike most officials who have fallen under sanctions.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 11: 05
        +9
        Quote: atalef
        Makarevich’s children live in Russia

        Andrei Makarevich has three children:
        Dana Makarevich (born 1975) - illegitimate daughter; lives in the city Philadelphia, maintains relationship with father, lawyer, married to an American businessman
        Ivan Makarevich (born June 30, 1987) is a Russian actor.
        Anna Rozhdestvenskaya (born September 23, 2000)
        1. atalef
          atalef April 12 2014 11: 21
          -9
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Andrei Makarevich has three children:
          Dana Makarevich (born 1975) - illegitimate daughter; lives in Philadelphia, maintains relations with his father, lawyer, married to an American businessman

          Putin has the same daughter living in Belgium.
          I am talking about children. not about adults. His daughters 30-k, she will figure it out
          I meant children (up to 18 years old), how many Russian officials and deputies children under 18 years old live abroad. ?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 11: 45
            +5
            Quote: atalef
            I meant children (under 18 years old)

            they usually live with their parents
            Quote: atalef
            Putin has the same daughter living in Belgium.

            if not secret info
            1. atalef
              atalef April 12 2014 11: 59
              -4
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              they usually live with their parents

              Well offhand. Lavrov’s daughter is studying in the USA at Columbia University - is it worth it to continue or dwell on this because the list will not be just big. and huge

              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              if not secret info

              more precisely in Holland. in general, for whom is this a secret?
              The 28-year-old daughter of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Maria, lives in Holland in the town of Voorschoten, along with 33-year-old Dutch national Jorrit Joost Faassen, a former senior official at Stroytransgaz and Gazprom. In 2009 and 2011 they bought three houses in this Dutch city, but they themselves are registered at the Moscow address: st. Fan 23. The penthouse of the Maria Putin family in Worschoten is located in the Krimwijk neighborhood on the corner of Annie MG Schmidt and Harry Mulisch
              1. thrower
                thrower April 12 2014 12: 08
                +5
                Stunned, 28-year-old girl got married and lives with her husband. I hope we don’t need to breed them?

                In general, it does not surprise me that I and a senior Gazprom employee live in different conditions. I am far from those Ukrainians who run around Mezhigorye and are looking for a gold toilet.
              2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 12: 16
                +6
                Quote: atalef
                Well offhand. Lavrov's daughter studying in the USA at Columbia University

                Daughter Catherine studied at Columbia University, which she entered when Lavrov was Russia's representative at the UN.

                although my opinion is that the children of the elite should not study there, by the way you already decide silt before 19 or after
                Quote: atalef
                more precisely in Holland. in general, for whom is this a secret?

                I asked the question for a reason, I deeply doubt that there is free access to data on the whereabouts of family members of the "first person", unless these are protocol events or official events.
                all links that point to the above-described town, forgive a yellow tint, besides, as a rule, they are written like this - "The publication claims that Putin's daughter lives in Voorschoten (Voorschoten is a suburb of both Leiden and The Hague). Maria Putina and Jorrit Faasen live in an apartment in a new an area called "Crimean Heat" (Krimwijk heet). "
              3. atalef
                atalef April 12 2014 13: 45
                -4
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                I asked the question for a reason, I deeply doubt that there is free access to data on the whereabouts of family members of the "first person", unless these are protocol events or official events.

                This is the media in Russia, you can cover your mouth. In the West, everything is much more complicated. Who can even prohibit writing in the same Holland about Putin’s daughter living there? Sorry for the Dutch, she is nothing more than a simple citizen (even probably less than simple) because has a residence permit at best, and a Schengen visa at worst
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                "The publication claims

                Is it that links ITA_ TASS or Truth?
                That. which is not disproved. usually true.
                And the newspaper does not need to write - APPROVES.
                She can write - for not verified information. everything else is a statement for which the newspaper if necessary will be responsible in court.
              4. joum
                joum April 12 2014 20: 03
                +3
                Judging by what I see recently in Western media - there generally it is allowed to open your mouth only according to the rules defined by the owners. But here you can grind horrible and anywhere horrible, like the same Makarevich.
              5. NOTaFED
                NOTaFED April 14 2014 10: 59
                +2
                This is the media in Russia can cover your mouth. In the West, everything is much more complicated.
                I could not resist here. Full of naivete atalef. By God, how a little child ...
          2. Russ69
            Russ69 April 12 2014 13: 21
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            Well offhand. Lavrov’s daughter is studying in the USA at Columbia University - is it worth it to continue or dwell on this because the list will not be just big. and huge

            As far as I know, already unlearned ...
          3. atalef
            atalef April 12 2014 13: 46
            -4
            Quote: Russ69
            Quote: atalef
            Well offhand. Lavrov’s daughter is studying in the USA at Columbia University - is it worth it to continue or dwell on this because the list will not be just big. and huge

            As far as I know, already unlearned ...

            And what does that change? Columbia University is located in New York. not in Moscow.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 11: 54
      +5
      Quote: atalef
      Putin has the same daughter living in Belgium.

      It’s yours to say that Putin’s daughter lives in Belgium, there was no information yet. Sanya, give details of how she ended up there. laughing
      1. atalef
        atalef April 12 2014 12: 26
        -6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It’s yours to say that Putin’s daughter lives in Belgium, there was no information yet. Sanya, give details of how she ended up there.

        san is the eldest
        the youngest, the same abroad, but there is no definite information about her. Like in Germany.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 12: 36
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          Like in Germany.

          very reliable info
        2. atalef
          atalef April 12 2014 12: 45
          -3
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          very reliable info

          Vladimir, what an irony from scratch. I wrote. - no reliable information
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 12: 58
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          I wrote. - no reliable information

          sorry, then why post gossip?
          Once again, if you have infa about the location of the above persons and you post it in the public domain, then you definitely commit a misconduct
        4. atalef
          atalef April 12 2014 13: 09
          -5
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          then definitely commit a misconduct

          belay And what is my position?
        5. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 15: 32
          +5
          Quote: atalef
          And what is my position?

          Chubaisovskaya laughing
        6. atalef
          atalef April 12 2014 18: 58
          -1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: atalef
          And what is my position?

          Chubaisovskaya laughing


          Sanya, where am I and where is Chubais - you know laughing
  • mongoose
    mongoose April 12 2014 16: 00
    +1
    for sure, the OBS agency knows everything laughing
  • Black
    Black April 12 2014 17: 44
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    Makarevich’s children live in Russia


    Makar was never the FATHER; to him, to a light bulb, where-how-with whom his children were and are.
  • atalef
    atalef April 12 2014 10: 00
    -5
    Quote: domokl
    . But a citizen of a country must either be with the country, or go to where the first paragraph is being implemented ...

    Everyone has the right to their opinion, but whether he was wrong or not, time will tell.
    A huge number of decisions of a state - passionately supported by citizens led into the abyss and vice versa.
    A citizen is not required. and it’s not right to support everything that the state has decided.
    The state decided to break up the union - the people were against it, the state decided to make privatization - the people didn’t resist in general, and I can imagine an infinite number of decisions of the state (although in fact a narrow circle of people) - with which it was not necessary to agree.
    Time is the best judge.
    To judge and blame a person for treason is only for that. that he has a different opinion - it smacks of the Middle Ages.


    Quote: domokl
    We talked for a long time about the fact that creative intelligentsia is the color of the nation ... As the CPSU used to be, the Mind, honor and conscience of the country ... We didn’t just say, we also hung orders on our chests ... And what did we get?

    Got it. that having different. and sometimes polar opinions - only then can we understand where the truth is.
    When the point of view is one. And dissent is suppressed - this is the path to North Korea
    Quote: domokl
    I think all these cases need to be investigated.

    To investigate. what ? What does a person think differently?
    Do not tell me - anyone in the family with his wife has a difference of opinion on a particular problem - and the family is generally the closest and dearest. what does each person have - so now the wife or husband has the right to plant an opener?
    No need to bring to the point of absurdity
    Quote: domokl
    .When the kid goes out and shouts Glory to the heroes, this is one thing ... But when a famous person comes out and pours water on the people (namely the people, not Putin and the authorities.) With shit, the people have to solve a simple problem for themselves-Do we need such figures ?

    The people are not only those who are for Putin. but also those who are against and even to the drum generally - all these are people.
    Tomorrow, you too can be in the minority on some issue - like that. what to put you to the wall?

    Quote: domokl
    Why did he spit in the soul of the people and why in this case you live next to these people ...?

    A person and a citizen have the right to their opinion - albeit erroneous in the opinion of someone, but if one takes away the right to their opinion from a person - then what will remain?
    While this does not violate the Criminal Code - what is the problem?
    Well said - someone likes it. someone is not, but to persecute a person. to any person. just for that. what he thinks differently - do not turn into a pack of dogs thirsty handouts in the form of a bone and rushing at anyone. whom the owner points a finger at and says -FAS.
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 April 12 2014 10: 34
      +11
      How would people in Israel react to a famous artist if he called for, for example, to abandon retaliatory air raids on Palestinians, bombing Syria, return the Palestinians from the ground, etc.? P.S. during the Second World War, artists perform at the front, dance, sing songs, and at the end they propose to go over to the side of the Nazis. Well, they expressed their opinion .... just "civic position"
      1. atalef
        atalef April 12 2014 10: 50
        -2
        Quote: dr.star75
        How would people react to a famous artist in Israel if he would call for example to abandon reciprocal air raids on Palestinians, bombing Syria, return Palestinians from the land, etc.

        Absolutely normal, and such in Israel (among the * advanced elite *) - just the majority.
        Nobody not only spread rot (God forbid) - they even manage 9 despite their extremely leftist views) to receive Israeli state awards.
        And God forbid. someone will undergo some kind of persecution or obstruction due to the expression of their personal opinions.


        Quote: dr.star75
        P.S. during the Second World War, artists perform at the front, dance, sing songs, and in the end they suggest switching to the side of the Nazis

        those. ? Makarevich did not call to go over to the side of the fascists, and please do not write down all the people of Ukraine to fascists

        Quote: dr.star75
        Well, they expressed their opinion .... just "civic position"

        You know in my department 4 people.
        I am of center-right views, one is very left (this is someone who is ready to give everything to the palaces). one religious, and one extremely right (at the same time quite dumb and not well-read - well, from Moldova request ) - such an interesting slice
        This absolutely does not prevent us from being friends and arguing periodically until turning blue - which, in general, in no way interferes with our relations or work.
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi April 12 2014 11: 01
        +2
        Quote: dr.star75
        How would people in Israel react to a famous artist if he called for, for example, to abandon retaliatory air raids on Palestinians, bombing Syria, return the Palestinians from the ground, etc.? P.S. during the Second World War, artists perform at the front, dance, sing songs, and at the end they propose to go over to the side of the Nazis. Well, they expressed their opinion .... just "civic position"

        Yes, we have the majority of artists and the humanitarian intelligentsia in general on the side of the Palestinians. They say they are unhappy and they need to be sorry. Nothing like that we live. Not nice, but believe me not fatally.
    2. Sandov
      Sandov April 12 2014 10: 42
      +1
      Quote: atalef
      Well said - someone likes it. someone is not, but to persecute a person. to any person. just for that. what he thinks differently - do not turn into a pack of dogs thirsty handouts in the form of a bone and rushing at anyone. whom the owner points a finger at and says -FAS.

      The owner apparently lives in America.
      1. atalef
        atalef April 12 2014 11: 10
        -6
        Quote: Sandov
        The owner apparently lives in America.

        It doesn't matter where he lives. in any country there is a certain number of citizens looking in the mouth of the government in readiness to tear anyone. who disagrees with this government.
        The degree of human freedom is determined by the percentage of this pack to the rest of the population.
        I do not call for everything to disagree with the authorities.
        Nothing like this . but have an opinion? it will generally forbid me and who has the right to poison and humiliate me for this.
    3. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. April 12 2014 10: 48
      +1
      Do not turn into a pack of DOG.
    4. stoker
      stoker April 12 2014 11: 52
      +6
      You intentionally confuse two concepts - to have an opinion and to express an opinion.
      Since we are people and we have a mind, so far we have our own opinion about everything that we face.
      But if we express it, all the more deliberately in public, then we must be prepared for the fact that the people around us will use their inalienable right and express their opinion, including in the form of a slap in the face. "Pluralism of opinions".
      And not only. If a person "with an active civil position", having taken a glass of cognac, climbs into the cockpit to express his opinion on how to steer and where to fly, he will get a real term.
      Here is another example. How do you personally feel about the fact that in some European countries, expressing your opinion on the extent and causes of the Holocaust is a criminal offense, and Makarevich’s statements about the country in which they were born and grew up, and which saved their ancestors from total biological destruction by German Nazism, are a right to your opinion?
      1. thrower
        thrower April 12 2014 11: 58
        +3
        If a person "with an active civil position", having taken a glass of cognac, climbs into the cockpit to express his opinion on how to steer and where to fly


        The most striking example is the president of Poland and the plane crash near Smolensk.
      2. atalef
        atalef April 12 2014 19: 41
        -3
        stoker today, 11:52 ↑
        You intentionally confuse two concepts - to have an opinion and to express an opinion.

        The opinion that I have, I express, both in Israel and in VO - though, unlike VO, in Israel no one hangs minuses.
        1. smart Fox
          smart Fox April 13 2014 10: 21
          0
          What for then to demonstrate it for all to see, if you are afraid of the "minuses" on VO, play these toys on Israeli sites. Participation in the discussion predetermines the presence of "minuses"
    5. Grbear
      Grbear April 12 2014 13: 21
      +5
      atalef
      I pay tribute to your erudition, but you can determine the line where the opinion ends and the ideological provocation or sabotage begins what ?, which in any country is suppressed rather harshly (and in Israel too). Your remarks remind a mixture of sophistry with Jesuit rhetoric, which is logical, reasoned enough and attractive for a more or less literate person. And if we add to this the "hobby club", which can indirectly finance its members, we get the fifth column.

      Actually, from your statements, I concluded that your understanding of reality does not exclude double standards in relation to others, and the mentoring tone gives reason to guess about your self-esteem. hi
      1. atalef
        atalef April 12 2014 19: 06
        -3
        Quote: GrBear
        atalef
        I pay tribute to your erudition, but you can determine the line where the opinion ends and the ideological provocation or sabotage begins what ?, which in any country is suppressed rather harshly (and in Israel too). Your remarks remind a mixture of sophistry with Jesuit rhetoric, which is logical, reasoned enough and attractive for a more or less literate person. And if we add to this the "hobby club", which can indirectly finance its members, we get the fifth column.

        Actually, from your statements, I concluded that your understanding of reality does not exclude double standards in relation to others, and the mentoring tone gives reason to guess about your self-esteem. hi

        Well, in Israel, chatter does not occur at all, I would like to look at the one who tried it. As for provocation, it is generally up to everyone to decide - at the level of their erudition and attitude.
        As for the rest - I don’t know, this is my attitude, I never and no one (here) stuck my mouth, I had a personal opinion on everything - sometimes coinciding sometimes there is no Israeli politician, and there’s no perception where I work, never tried to shut my mouth or sanction me. I will say that in many ways I do not support the policies of both Netanyahu and the Electric Company where I work - and so what? Nothing, the elections decide in one case, in the other (unfortunately) I can only decide at the department level - with whom I am in charge. But no one will fire me and declare me a traitor
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak April 12 2014 11: 52
    +11
    Quote: domokl
    Why did he spit in the soul of the people and why in this case you live next to these people ...?

    People who turned away from God were buried behind the cemetery fence: hypocrites, buffoons, fallen women, and other riffraff, who were not allowed on the threshold of a decent house.
    Now everything has changed. Whores talk about pure love, and lyceum talk about politics. The stage lyceum lives a stranger’s life and, like a professional liar, gets used to the role, confidently believing that he achieved this himself and has the right to judge from the point of view of the original.
  • avg
    avg April 12 2014 12: 59
    +1
    Quote: domokl
    But we got that this very creative .... believed in its impunity, in its greatness and the right to speak on behalf of the people.

    To bring these creative personalities to their knees on Poklonnaya Gora was tentatively slightly, purely for psychology, worn off and forced to ask for forgiveness before the soldiers who died for our freedom. And then, having promised not to touch it anymore, inquire whether they understood the difference between “totalitarian Russia” and “democratic Ukraine”, without consequences, just a test of honesty.
  • PATTIY
    PATTIY April 12 2014 15: 06
    +1
    Quote: domokl
    . But when a famous person comes out and pours water on the people (namely the people, not Putin and the authorities.)

    So it is necessary for him - the people, also to pour a well-known personality on .. natural. hi
    Or ask: if in the West you feel good, but in Russia it’s not.
    Why not arrange your life there.
    But seriously. All this is just PR. Many of them have been forgotten, so you need to remind yourself - in any way. Especially concerns - MakareviCHA
  • asar
    asar April 12 2014 15: 30
    0
    Completely redeemed!
  • Denis
    Denis April 12 2014 15: 54
    +3
    Quote: domokl
    The creative person has the right to his own vision of the situation

    It’s like a cult of personality - there was a personality and there was a cult
    And about this ..., he can’t talk anymore. Chef and scuba diving lessons did not bring what they wanted. I wrote a letter to the president about rampant corruption (the president does not know !!!), they only laughed at him. And after such a Judas trick to protect gays will rush
    If only they said, but at what price it doesn’t matter
    Above is also an example of popularity at any cost.
  • Xeueys
    Xeueys April 12 2014 21: 20
    0
    IN AND. Lenin
    The intelligentsia is not the brain of the nation, but shit.

    Now in your own words. Crap. Dog, that’s who these creative personalities are, not all, of course, but mainly .....
  • Rus2012
    Rus2012 April 15 2014 10: 53
    0
    Andrei Makarevich did not stand aside.

    Quote: domokl
    But a citizen of a country must either be with the country, or go to where the first paragraph is being implemented ...

    They say that everything is simple here - a small personal business on Crimean wines and a personal yacht club - all tied to illegal agreements with Ukrainian people ...
  • KILLAvolt
    KILLAvolt April 15 2014 14: 54
    0
    I agree that criticizing the authorities is what is needed, but first of all, LOVE YOUR COUNTRY AND PEOPLE !!! Why shit where you live?
  • DedaSascha
    DedaSascha April 15 2014 18: 47
    0
    Solidarity with the state, with its policies means a lot. Makarevich as an example: once A. Conan Doyle was asked a question about the colonial aggressive policy of the British kingdom in Indochina. To which he replied with approximately the following words: "I do not like what the British soldiers are doing there. But this is my country, and I support its actions."
  • Canep
    Canep April 12 2014 07: 46
    +11
    Quote: Kazakh
    The controversial issue of Bender Shukhevych everyone was silent

    He is very far from these characters, and the worst thing for any artist is oblivion, he died for me, if he dies for everyone, then this will be the worst blow for him.
    1. thrower
      thrower April 12 2014 08: 14
      +2
      Without reading your comment wrote the same)))
  • Very old
    Very old April 12 2014 08: 10
    +11
    Alexander the Kazakh, these people "get sick". It is incurable.
    In the days of the Union they wanted freedom. Here you get it.
    No. Little, absolute is needed (!) But this does not exist in nature.
    You, Sasha, depend on me.
    I, Old Valku, depend on you.

    We are all addicted to others.

    But I welcome this Dependence - on honor, conscience, dignity

    Ready (and always was) a slave: honor, conscience, love for my Motherland
  • dmitriygorshkov
    dmitriygorshkov April 12 2014 08: 26
    +6
    Quote: Kazakh
    The controversial issue of Bender Shukhevych was silent and only a few said good results. If you and I stop talking about Vlasov badly, it will be the same.

    Vlasov is certainly a traitor, and we must always remember this component of it!
    But refresh his memory .... Yes, he betrayed the country at the most difficult hour, but in terms of the scale of his personality, he and Bandera with Shukhevych, like the Ostankino tower and the ch.o.h.l.ya.ts.k.a.a. threshing mantle hut!
  • Cynic
    Cynic April 12 2014 08: 59
    0
    Quote: Kazakh
    If we badly stop talking about Vlasov, it will be the same.

    Already, already say _
    Elena Muraveva
    General Vlasov: a hero or a traitor?
    For almost seventy years, the name of the Soviet general Andrei Vlasov has been associated with the word traitor. Meanwhile, it is not at all possible that Vlasov acted on behalf of Soviet intelligence
    1. mongoose
      mongoose April 12 2014 10: 39
      +2
      you never know what traitors say
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  • Polovec
    Polovec April 12 2014 13: 08
    +1
    Clowns always need advertising. otherwise they will be forgotten. Masterpieces are not born every day. Talent is not an eternal thing. You need to eat every day. Barking when nothing for you among the clowns will be fashionable for it now. You just need to understand that these are just buffoons for our entertainment and in no case take them seriously. And then they imagined themselves almost as the spirituality of the nation ...
  • Docent1984
    Docent1984 April 12 2014 13: 40
    +1
    Absolutely right! Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten. Including any scum can not be forgotten - because then it will become a legend.
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  • mad
    mad April 12 2014 07: 26
    +14
    They began to forget him, so he decided to promote (((
    - You heard that the host of the culinary television show, this one like him ... Makarevich, sang songs before!
  • chehywed
    chehywed April 12 2014 07: 30
    +11
    Quote: Canep
    but about the dead or good or nothing

    "He died ... and that's good!"
    1. domokl
      domokl April 12 2014 07: 40
      +16
      Quote: chehywed
      "He died ... and that's good!"

      Alas, he died only for the majority ... But it stinks all the same ... It is not for nothing that the dead were always removed from the kingdom of the living ... Someone was buried, someone was burned, someone was allowed to feed animals or birds .. .but NEVER left in the house ... Otherwise, death will spread, it will take others ...
      The corpses need to be buried, but it’s better to throw them over to whom they so strongly advocate ... Let them explain to the Right Sector that they are other Muscovites ... Maybe then they will also have other pilots
      1. chehywed
        chehywed April 12 2014 07: 55
        +8
        Sasha, I grew up on his songs. And at the beginning of the 90, he was like a snake, updated the skin. And where did everything go?
        Dedication to a familiar musician ...

        It's just weird sometimes
        How the years change us -
        Here is the trouble.
        What would you say then
        And now you say
        Nonsense.

        And I was looking at you for even a trace
        The one that has kept us together for so many years.
        And I was looking for you even a faint light
        One that has not been mentioned for a long time.

        You didn’t count money before
        You loved everybody when you played and gave.
        Now you can't be fooled
        You do not give, but sell
        And so you live.

        And I'm only calm
        That now no one can deceive you.
        1. PATTIY
          PATTIY April 12 2014 15: 21
          +1
          chehywed, you need to send him to his page.
          Let them rejoice that they remember him :)))
  • Very old
    Very old April 12 2014 08: 43
    +9
    Came out of the "underground" - YOUNG MAN!

    Dropped below the ground - and to hell with you

    I could not save my name, honor, just decency
    And who is your friend?

    Everyone is responsible for this question.
  • asar
    asar April 12 2014 15: 29
    +1
    Makar is losing popularity, so he will come up with different options where you can "light up"! Eh, Makar, Makar!
  • Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 April 13 2014 10: 55
    +1
    Hello Sergei, if my memory serves me, then the original source sounds like this: "About the dead, only the truth." (De mortuis - veritas.) I would like to add: - Nobody ever kicks a dead dog, but if you really want to, then you can, this I'm talking about Makar and the like.
  • subbtin.725
    subbtin.725 April 14 2014 02: 53
    0
    I support the deceased.
  • kia64
    kia64 April 15 2014 17: 04
    0
    Unfortunately he is a dead man, and was an idol.
  • GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 12 2014 07: 13
    +23
    Quote: Gerach
    SALE Traitor to his country! Let him forget about his concerts!

    And where did you get the idea that this is his country? Just look at who represented this swamp intelligentsia.
    History repeats itself:

    V.V. Putin:
    ..... the first Soviet government, and its members were approximately 80–85 percent Jewish.
    http://kremlin.ru/transcripts/18336



    Who is now breaking through to power in Ukraine?
    Mostly Ashkenazi Jews.
    http://ru-an.info/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%80%
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    Who in Russia is represented mainly by the white-tape elite supporting the junta, consisting of the same Ashkenazi? Mostly those are ashkenazi.

    And here is the explanation of the halachic Jew:

    Rabbi Zelman answers.
    Question to the rabbi about the situation in Ukraine.

    First, many Ashkenazi Jews (due to a variety of factors - upbringing, education, historical environmental pressure, etc.) have long been deeply infected with the revolutionary spirit. I affirm this both as a witness and as - after all, more than twenty years of experience - an "engineer of Jewish souls"
    More:
    http://www.sem40.ru/index.php?newsid=241425
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 April 12 2014 07: 23
      +16
      Makarevich is a pig, and it became like that because of his position 70-80, which was influenced by the first dissidents who inspired us with the idea that we have lawlessness of lack of freedom in everything from music to long hair.
      I saw a movie (24 docs each) —on the arrival of the Beatles — just like they all shouted — this is freedom, this is happiness.
      They lost their culture, did not create their own, and their genius was expressed in a stupid imitation of an alien culture to us, that's why such people should not touch on traditions and culture!
      And in no way should they hold positions in the cultural vector of our society.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia April 12 2014 07: 32
        +6
        Quote: mirag2
        They lost their culture, did not create their own

        Well. why so?

        In my opinion, they didn’t lose anything.
        It is enough to read the explanation of one of the opponents of Russian Orthodox culture:



        ACADEMICIAN VITALY GINZBURG AGAINST TEACHING BASES ORTHODOX CULTURE "CHURCH Bastards" ...
        ... AND FOR MATERIAL SUPPORT BY THE SINAGOG STATE
        http://orthodox.etel.ru/2007/29/akademik.htm

        Digging deeper and see that:

        Ginzburg:
        I do not know the Hebrew language (neither Hebrew nor Yiddish); By the way, I regret it, but I don’t have the ability to speak languages, and my native language is Russian. It would seem that I should have assimilated. But this is completely wrong, I could never even think about the renunciation of my people.What are the reasons? I myself don’t know and don’t understand. Of course, family roots are essential, some Jewish traditions in the family were ....

        Jews survived as a nation not assimilated, as is commonly believed, because of their commitment to Judaism, that they considered themselves to be a chosen nation.

        One way or another, due to these and, possibly, some other reasons I do not understand (and suddenly it's about genes, their role is still not clear) I am, so to speak, a bearer of Jewish national sentiment.
        http://www.sem40.ru/lenta/news-dir/74045.html
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 07: 55
          +9
          Quote: GreatRussia
          It is enough to read the explanation of one of the opponents of Russian Orthodox culture:

          Why run so far, you can read something like this on the site. As long as there were no graters with Ukraine, until Crimea was returned, it was more or less quiet, and as soon as the Crimea was returned, the professor stood on its hind legs. How they replaced the person directly, even accused me of Nazism.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza April 12 2014 09: 37
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            How to replace a person directly, even Nazism accused me.

            Do not be discouraged, Alexander! Not only you !!! laughing
            Russia must stop supporting neo-Nazis, - Ukrainian Foreign Ministry


            The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine expresses concern over Russia's support of right-wing radical, neo-Nazi and separatist movements in Europe, said Yevgeny Perebynis, director of the Foreign Ministry’s information policy department fool Ukrainian news reports.
            According to him, this is evidenced at least by the example of the so-called “observers” from individual European countries, whom Russia brought to Crimea to observe the so-called referendum on March 16. belay
            As you know, earlier the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry expressed surprise at the statements of Russia on the analogies between protests on the Maidan and separatist protests in the southeast. fool
          2. mongoose
            mongoose April 12 2014 10: 43
            0
            oh well, and before, it was worth someone to raise the Russian theme, so they immediately drove into the minus, and "patriots", for example, remember Yoshkin's Cat, and there were many of them, everything that goes beyond the "Soviet-Marxist" "patriotism" and then hysteria to heaven laughing
          3. Very old
            Very old April 12 2014 11: 46
            +2
            Rejoice, "Natsik", they still call Russian ..

            K-a_tsA_p freaking ... th
            ... That's it, Laxander. Otherwise, we are "taught" (like a cat to the tray) to be called
            R about with and I n and m and
        2. mirag2
          mirag2 April 12 2014 08: 53
          0
          What do you want? When someone is told (almost at the state level) that only your people have a goal and a path to it, unlike others rushing about in search of a way, this creates a kind of closed club, people trampling the interests and desires of others, for the sake of my chosenness. I will accept Islam and become a Muslim brother, and Judaism will not work, and if I were a giyur, I would not become a pure Jew anyway.
        3. dr.star75
          dr.star75 April 12 2014 12: 57
          +1
          The Jews "descended" (so to speak) from the Italians. They carried out genetic studies of the mitochondrial chromosome (it is only in the egg, it is not in the spermatozoa and is transmitted only through the maternal line) of Ashkenazi Jews (if you misspelled it, sorry). The similarity turned out to be about 90%, with other nations the percentage of similarity is much less.
    2. thrower
      thrower April 12 2014 07: 52
      +12
      Jews in Israel. There they defend their interests with weapons in their hands, there they bombard the streets of cities with improvised rockets. I don’t like the way they build their state there, but they live there, they defend it. And everyone is serving in the army, including women.
      And these juntas are just parasites, regardless of nationality.
      Although a very small number of precisely the Ukrainians among the junta also surprised me. Tyagnibok and Parubiy like, and that’s all.
      1. Sour
        Sour April 12 2014 08: 50
        +8
        Quote: thrower
        Tyagnibok and Parubiy like

        Tyagnibok Jewish maternal, grandmother's last name - Frotman. Under Israeli law, he is entitled to Israeli citizenship.
        1. dik-fort
          dik-fort April 12 2014 09: 56
          +7
          There was also information about Yarosh that his nephew was serving in the IDF in Israel. By the way, "our" Mikhail Prokhorov and his sister are also Jews on the maternal side, in the list of the richest Jews on the planet, compiled by the Israeli version of Forbes, Prokhorov takes 16th place (source Wikipedia).
      2. Egoza
        Egoza April 12 2014 09: 43
        +7
        Quote: thrower
        Tyagnibok

        Tyagnibok - Frotman's grandmother, studied at a special Jewish "English" school in Lvov according to the testimony of Larisa Skoryk, a real intelligent Galician woman, "master" of Ukrainian architecture, Tyagnibok somewhere in 1996-98. asked for permanent residence in Israel. He was refused ... he went into politics and there was "Freedom" !!!
        Now I think, was he really "denied" in Israel? bully
        1. atalef
          atalef April 12 2014 10: 55
          -2
          Quote: Egoza
          lamb - Frotman's grandmother, studied at a special Jewish "English" school in Lvov

          Jewish school in Lviv? Fascists alone

          Quote: Egoza
          Tyagnibok somewhere in 1996-98. He asked for permanent residence in Israel.

          Asked - how is it? Do you allow uncles?
          There is a law to enter Israel. If he had someone Jewish on either side of his parents, no one would have forbidden him to enter the country. I repeat no one
          And having a Jewish grandmother of 9, as you say, as I understand it from my mother’s side, makes him almost 100% Jewish according to the laws of Israel. that do not mislead the people.
          I'm admitting. that his grandmother is Jewish (I just take your word for it - it’s all the same to me). but that . that he wanted to enter but they didn’t let him in - do not lie (sorry for such a word - there is no other analogue)
          Or he just didn’t submit documents, maybe he still has no Jews in the pedigree? Although here, many people declared the GDP to be Jewish. Well, DAM is 100%.
          I don’t know who to believe.
      3. mongoose
        mongoose April 12 2014 10: 44
        +1
        yeah, and they don’t have old Jewish grandmothers and never had repeat
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi April 12 2014 11: 28
          -1
          Quote: mongoose
          yeah, and they don’t have old Jewish grandmothers and never had repeat

          Maybe not. I can say that all anti-Semites here on the forum are Israeli paid agents who create an atmosphere of hatred to increase the repatriation of Jews to Israel. And what kind of words here no one needs to answer. I can carry any nonsense. Something like this.
          1. Very old
            Very old April 12 2014 12: 51
            +2
            Not anti-Semite. I do not accept Zionism categorically.

            Do you know how many Jews returned to Russia?
            Will you call them traitors?
            1. atalef
              atalef April 12 2014 13: 12
              -2
              Quote: Very old
              Do you know how many Jews returned to Russia?
              Will you call them traitors?


              Traitors of what?
              A man can live where he wants. . My eldest daughter lives in Canada and is healthy. wants to come back. not want - her business. You can love your relatives and Israel from a distance.
            2. mongoose
              mongoose April 12 2014 16: 06
              0
              and who are they? when in difficult times, they packed up their suitcases and washed off, but now they are pulled back?
          2. mongoose
            mongoose April 12 2014 16: 05
            0
            you can say, but answer? tongue
      4. PATTIY
        PATTIY April 12 2014 15: 31
        0
        Quote: thrower
        And these juntas are just parasites, regardless of nationality.

        +++ does not depend on the nation.
        I am against nationalism, otherwise how do we differ from the junta.
  • svetlomor
    svetlomor April 12 2014 07: 15
    +9
    Someone said "I hate your opinion, but I am ready to give my life for your right to express it", this is democracy, and if people do not agree with the majority, this does not make them a traitor, it is another matter to run to the American embassy and receive money for such statements.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 12 2014 07: 57
      +7
      Quote: svetlomor
      ready to give my life for your right to express it

      Attributed to Voltaire, K. Jaspers also noted, and especially G.H.Popov liked to flaunt this phrase. After the EBN didn’t lie on the rails, as he had promised before the cameras, this phrase is a thick sound accompanying the expulsion of intestinal gases.
    2. atalef
      atalef April 12 2014 11: 11
      -1
      Quote: svetlomor
      Someone said "I hate your opinion, but I am ready to give my life for your right to express it", this is democracy, and if people do not agree with the majority, this does not make them a traitor, it is another matter to run to the American embassy and receive money for such statements.

      Here in this I absolutely agree with you.
      opinion should be disinterested. opinion for the grandmothers is a completely different compote.
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    4. Hitrovan07
      Hitrovan07 April 12 2014 17: 47
      0
      The people whom you defend yourself talk about the war - so tell me what they called such people in the war? TRAITORS.
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  • siberalt
    siberalt April 12 2014 07: 28
    +12
    I remember that I was demobilized from the urgent, and the advanced youth listens to the "time machine". Solid musical primitive, western awkward alterations, messy voices and very loud. Complete verbal diarrhea with a counter - find your meaning. Then I had to listen to it from every electrical appliance. I did not understand what is the point of promoting this pseudo-musical group. Now everything fell into place. Yes, then there is the platform of the fifth column for zombifying young people who are not yet strong in their minds. Try to convince you otherwise.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 12 2014 08: 03
      +11
      Quote: siberalt
      Now everything fell into place. Well then, the platform of the fifth column for zombie young minds that are not strong enough. Try to convince the opposite.

      Remember his song "Puppets":
      "Dolls will be removed from the threads of long
      And sprinkled with mothballs
      They will put them in chests in the form of rags. "
      The same thing was written about him by himself, there was still a talent, but he drank it.
    2. major071
      major071 April 12 2014 08: 04
      +20
      The time machine is on the handbrake
      And Makarevich is apparently very old
      Broadcasts like Lenin on his armored car
      Which rusted from insanity
      And he’s not a hunter today for luck
      And that turn disappeared in the distance
      The world of deflection was considered its task
      But it turned out the opposite ....
      1. Hairy Siberian
        Hairy Siberian April 12 2014 08: 41
        +2
        It’s no longer a rocker, but a singing patriot,
        Hopes flew away and the truth makes no sense
        Now the president is right for him.
        And he is his client.
      2. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver April 12 2014 09: 42
        +4
        The sun rises over Russia
        Tears are dripping from the eyes,
        Full of sadness and sorrow
        Quietly crying fag ...
      3. Sandov
        Sandov April 12 2014 11: 50
        +3
        Quote: major071
        The time machine is on the handbrake
        And Makarevich is apparently very old
        Broadcasts like Lenin on his armored car
        Which rusted from insanity
        And he’s not a hunter today for luck
        And that turn disappeared in the distance
        The world of deflection was considered its task
        But it turned out the opposite ....

        Competently wassat
    3. mirag2
      mirag2 April 12 2014 08: 54
      +3
      Why is it to convince you. This is the formation of the 5th column and the dissident movement, which destroyed the USSR.
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  • free
    free April 12 2014 09: 56
    +3
    whores are corrupt, you need to disrupt the holding of this congress of traitors, and Makarevich, Akunin, Zemfira, Grebenshchikov, etc. scream in the face, and throw dirt at them, popular disgrace to traitors!
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder April 12 2014 10: 04
    +8
    Quote: Gerach
    Gerach
    Today, 07: 06
    ↓ New
    SALE Traitor to his country! Let him forget about his concerts!


    I would tell them all: There is no Stalin on you!

    in general, starting from ancient Rome (in Rome, they hated artists, they were not considered peasants, man who fights for the country), artists never mainly participated in the life of the country, did not invest in its development real material things, hence their attitude of foreignness, spitting, as you ... tutka who pays and dances. The Moulin Rouge Theater generally began as a brothel.
    For example, they go under the current government to serve high-ranking officials (who sings songs, who dances, who else is very happy, the theater), bach entered the territory of the enemy, the artists continue their work, they say art knows no boundaries, they are not conducting a guerrilla struggle with the people, it’s easier for them to serve high-ranking enemies, they can still call it life, they say it happened so that they don’t die, or We’re kind of above the war, we are people of the light of art, politics is not ours, pah.
    That was during the Napoleonic Wars. So it was in 1939-45m in Europe. Many films have been made on this subject, and books have been written. Their category includes Russian liberal artists.

    For me, the Hero of the country (again starting from ancient Rome) is a soldier, warrior, her protector. He is also far from politics and other things. But he knows for sure that the enemy will come and the country will not be better, according to the everyday life - his life, his family, city, country will be threatened with physical and moral death, violence, violence, hunger, cold, there will be no carelessly laughing children playing in the yard, there will be of smiling people on the street, the city will turn into ashes, ruin, everywhere there will be blood, bodies and stench, and an uncertain future, now there will be nothing old and nothing will come back ...
    and so that this does not happen, the soldier will fight. The artist is not. This is what separates real action from ranting, self-sacrifice from selfishness, good and truth from hypocritical lies.
    And in conclusion, we can conclude: artists are a potential fifth column, and patriots are always ordinary people who are not asked which way the country should go, but they will defend the country, whatever the regime.
  • mongoose
    mongoose April 12 2014 10: 36
    +4
    what do you want from a Jew "aristocrat" ??? the country that they considered their property is floating out of their hands, and the Russians suddenly did not consider themselves their slaves! here the sick people will be worn out, broke free from the shackles of Jewish Marxism and liberalism
  • Sandov
    Sandov April 12 2014 10: 36
    +4
    For us, Ukraine will never be a foreign state. Half of its population is Russian or Russian-speaking. And how many mixed marriages, this is generally impossible to say.
    For us, Ukraine is Little Russia and New Russia, it is our people. Traitors to the people end badly.
  • wow
    wow April 12 2014 10: 37
    +6
    These buffoons have already killed off with their "special vision" of the world !!! Pull your string and stay out of areas that you know like a goat in oranges.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 April 12 2014 11: 43
    +5
    China has carried out the "Cultural Revolution" twice. Both times, all kinds of intellectuals were massacred there. Earlier, ten years ago, I did not understand - how so? what for?
    Now I often regret that we did not shoot all of these freedom advocates without lengthy proceedings.
  • vlrosch
    vlrosch April 12 2014 13: 18
    0
    JUST HIM'S EARLY SENIOR SEASON.
  • vlrosch
    vlrosch April 12 2014 13: 18
    0
    JUST HIM'S EARLY SENIOR SEASON.
  • vjhbc
    vjhbc April 12 2014 13: 38
    +1
    why are such tantrums all this so-called creative intelligentsia is not the elite of the nation this is a service class such as the Chaldeans (in the bad sense of the word) because after all they didn’t like the Soviet government to spread their legs one by one and they needed to kneel, but there weren’t enough buns loved, and now whoever pays more under that and lie down so that nothing personal only business.
    Quote: Canep
    For me, he died, but about the dead either good or nothing.
  • Manul
    Manul April 12 2014 14: 19
    +1
    What pleases me is that at the time of my reading 169 pluses and not a single minus. Either the monkeys have not yet woken up, or even they themselves understand that there is no way they can affect our contempt for the traitors.
  • Simon
    Simon April 12 2014 14: 52
    +3
    I grew up on his songs, but now I threw all the discs in the trash and stomped, stomped like a bulldozer. I don’t want to listen anymore.
  • Little Muck
    Little Muck April 12 2014 16: 31
    0
    The country needs heroes, and even then it comes up
  • allexx83
    allexx83 April 12 2014 23: 12
    +2
    Kill the liberalist - save RUSSIA!
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich April 13 2014 16: 18
    +2
    Quote: Kazakh
    Quote: Canep
    For me, he died, but about the dead either good or nothing.
    The controversial issue of Bender Shukhevych was silent and only a few said good results. If you and I stop talking about Vlasov badly, it will be the same.

    Quote: Gerach
    SALE Traitor to his country! Let him forget about his concerts!

    I am restrained in emotions ... but makar for me now is p.a.d.l.a. and g.d.n.d.n ... he trampled on part of my youth when we believed him unconditionally, when they sang "turn" and "sunny island" with "puppets"! makar, you killed part of my soul ... your notes are now in the trash can ...
  • subbtin.725
    subbtin.725 April 14 2014 02: 52
    0
    about the traitor to the point.
  • dmitrich
    dmitrich April 14 2014 05: 46
    0
    for Jews Crimea, he doesn’t lie in a foreign land.
  • Aser
    Aser April 14 2014 09: 49
    0
    This is the new Monica Lewinsky at the modern EU ISHA - to suck and tell everyone about it.
  • podpolkovnik
    podpolkovnik April 14 2014 15: 58
    0
    Quote: Gerach
    SALE Traitor to his country! Let him forget about his concerts!

    I agree!
  • Lelek
    Lelek April 14 2014 17: 19
    +3
    He, of course, is not a traitor. To the best of his shit (he imagined himself with the conscience of the nation, being only an ordinary musician, a poor singer and a mediocre diver) he joined the company of the same renegades (in their own words - the elite, Bohemia) who are always against it. What happened is what happened. I would like to back, but they will not accept. So it will be shit to the end. bully
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 April 12 2014 07: 09
    +13
    oh well ikh. this so-called creative intelligentsia has always been rotten
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    2. thrower
      thrower April 12 2014 07: 56
      +5
      Shit.mo does not happen with rotten. It's just crap.
    3. tokin1959
      tokin1959 April 12 2014 08: 13
      +4
      just do not need about the whole intelligentsia.
      and where did they get that Makrevich intellectual?
      he is a JOK.
      1. thrower
        thrower April 12 2014 08: 18
        +1
        There are different concepts - INTELLIGENT and INTELLECTUAL, do not confuse them.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 12 2014 08: 39
          +1
          Quote: thrower
          There are different concepts - INTELLIGENT and INTELLECTUAL, do not confuse them.

          Petka from Vasily Ivanovich in a Russian lesson asks: Vasily Ivanovich, than a hairdress differs from uvima? you Petka, in fact, nothing, both x "er side!
          1. chehywed
            chehywed April 12 2014 08: 56
            +1
            Quote: 11111mail.ru
            Vasily Ivanovich, than the hairdress differs from uvima

            Sorry. Correct. Anecdote with beards.
            Rzhevsky woke up in the morning and shouted to the batman.
            - Prokhor, you need a pun, in the evening I’m going to the ball, I need to keep a mark.
            - Barin, there are no fresh puns, but there is a riddle. What is the difference between a hairdressdick from dickuvima?
            -I do not know...
            -U a hairdressdickand H.E.r behind, and at dickuvima in front.
            Drunk Rzhevsky at the ball.
            Lord! What is the difference between an angel and an archangel?
            -Well, we don’t know ..
            -That and I forgot, but one of them x .. side.

            In my opinion, the filter is reinsured. winked
      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z April 12 2014 09: 23
        +1
        Quote: tokin1959
        just do not need about the whole intelligentsia.
        and where did they get that Makrevich intellectual?
        he is a JOK.

        But there is no need to offend the jesters!
        They used to tell the TRUTH to the sovereigns under their jokes and jokes!
      3. mongoose
        mongoose April 12 2014 11: 48
        0
        intellectuals are jesters, do not confuse with professionals
    4. mongoose
      mongoose April 12 2014 10: 46
      0
      the figures who try on the role of the messiah are always annoying
  • taseka
    taseka April 12 2014 07: 14
    +12
    The liberal intelligentsia in Russia, always loved to talk about destinies under cognac, to reflect, pensively from behind the white curtains at the chimneys of the factory workshops, to Baden - Baden then went on the mud! It was their "talking shop" that most often led to war!
    1. Lyapis
      Lyapis April 12 2014 07: 27
      +6
      the hibernate intelligentsia in Russia, always loved to talk, think, under brandy, thoughtfully, looking at the pipes of the factory floors thoughtfully from behind the white curtains, then went to Baden-Baden on mud!
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  • Humpty
    Humpty April 12 2014 07: 15
    +17
    Makarevich? Akunin?
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      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 09: 08
        +5
        bullets sorry to hang
    2. chehywed
      chehywed April 12 2014 10: 24
      +4
      Quote: Humpty
      Makarevich? Akunin?

      So no better?
  • siberalt
    siberalt April 12 2014 07: 15
    +13
    Makarevich - Libyan Timoshenko. She ends from his songs. Only this helped her survive in the terrible dungeons of Yanukovych laughing
  • Grenz
    Grenz April 12 2014 07: 15
    +12
    “I am different. Of course, I could say what a wonderful person I am, but in reality I am as if composed of many different components, I can be a bastard. "

    Well, Makarevich, for example, consists of one component - he is just a bastard !!!
  • mabuta
    mabuta April 12 2014 07: 19
    +28
    These were the ones that led to the seas of blood in 1917.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 12 2014 07: 34
      +4
      And besides the picture of unknown origin, do you have any opinion about the director Bortko? In my opinion, he is the antipode of Mikhalkov. Or was it "ordered" for you? He is not a politician, and is trying to honestly understand what he ended up in, not calling anyone anywhere. Unlike Makar with anti-Russian posters, he does not jump across the squares and "does not bend his back." Yes, and the "size" of talent matters!
      Can't forgive, damn it! Why did they leave the life ("according to the law") of the most talented actor Galkin!
      1. thrower
        thrower April 12 2014 08: 05
        +9
        Bortko, like Mikhalkov, is very talented. But Bortko now expresses a pro-Russian position in his films (Taras Bulba), his appearances on television and radio. His position is clear. Mikhalkov threw his talent into the toilet, took an open anti-Russian position. It is impossible to watch His Burnt by the sun without a mat. But this is the son of the person who wrote the words for the anthem of the USSR.
        And here already "God marks rogue". Bortko shoots and continues to shoot, while Mikhalkov sits aside. But how clever and talented he seems to be starting to keep his nose to the wind and is now showing a clear pro-Russian position.
  • Semenov
    Semenov April 12 2014 07: 21
    +5
    We write a lot and do a little. To get up off the couch is laziness, but we should go to a demonstration, write a curse on the wall of the house of Makarevich and the like, spoil in his entrance, put up a picket near the work with a shameful poster. Perhaps then these figures will understand something.
    1. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 12 2014 07: 25
      +2
      By God I would have met, spat in a mug selling
      1. thrower
        thrower April 12 2014 08: 08
        +2
        "Magic Pendal" solves many issues without understanding))
    2. chehywed
      chehywed April 12 2014 07: 44
      +1
      Quote: Semenov
      but it would be necessary to go to the demonstration, write a curse on the wall of the house of Makarevich and the like, to spoil in his entrance,

      No, well, Makar, of course, is a raccoon, but why, because of this, arrange a "Maidan" in Moscow? belay
      1. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 12 2014 08: 42
        +7
        Quote: chehywed
        No, well, Makar, of course, is a raccoon, but why, because of this, arrange a "Maidan" in Moscow?

        We won’t allow anyone to arrange a Maidan in Moscow! But when this liberal shushera crawls out onto the street again, I will certainly spit and take friends with me!
        1. parable
          parable April 12 2014 12: 52
          0
          You will leave our "Berkuts" without work.
    3. andrei332809
      andrei332809 April 12 2014 07: 53
      +2
      Quote: Semenov
      We write a lot and do a little.

      maybe they all beat eggs on the pavement?
    4. parable
      parable April 12 2014 12: 49
      +1
      Exactly, precisely, and even better, he should clean the snout. For this matter, you’ll doubt it yourself, and even Makar you’ll look at your mind.
  • Ihrek
    Ihrek April 12 2014 07: 22
    +7
    I used to respect this character, but now he is sd.o.kh.
  • Kazakh
    Kazakh April 12 2014 07: 22
    +8
    In a lot of creative people he was disappointed in spite of their very good songs, excellent films and wonderful books carry such nonsense .. You can’t figure out where they are real. You won’t make an idol for yourself.
    1. thrower
      thrower April 12 2014 08: 10
      +1
      Stephen King is real. He has a rule - he permits to shoot films for his 1 dollar according to his senaria. But if the film does not show what King wanted to express, then the film should not be released.
      Therefore, it is interesting to read and watch.
      1. chehywed
        chehywed April 12 2014 08: 18
        +1
        Quote: thrower
        But if the film does not show what King wanted to express, then the film should not be released.

        "The Shining" No. 1 with Nicholson, King himself, and recognized the worst film adaptation of his work. But the film is at the box office.
        1. thrower
          thrower April 12 2014 08: 40
          0
          Yes, admitted, but allowed the rental.
          And the film is good, 1 murder and 6 place in the list of the worst movies.
    2. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 12 2014 08: 47
      +1
      Quote: Kazakh
      In a lot of creative people he was disappointed in spite of their very good songs, excellent films and wonderful books carry such nonsense .. You can’t tell where they are.

      And in my opinion everything is simpler. We managed to consider in their work what they did not mortgage. Or, for the sake of fees, they sculpted what they wanted to hear from them!
      And even closer to the truth is a combination of these factors!
    3. cheega69
      cheega69 April 14 2014 23: 54
      0
      And neher was fascinated. It’s now they’re bohemian, and about 150 years ago they were called more honestly hilarious.
  • Michael_59
    Michael_59 April 12 2014 07: 23
    +3
    Quote: author
    SO, WHY DID THERE GAD THERE WHERE YOU LIVE?


    Huh ... What do you think they to go to shit to Israel? They’re more familiar here ...
  • mamont5
    mamont5 April 12 2014 07: 25
    +1
    And why did he wear sunglasses? So no one would guess? Encrypted.

    Eh Makarevich, Makarevich ...
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 12 2014 08: 06
      +9
      Quote: mamont5
      Eh Makarevich, Makarevich ...

      The late Yu. Nikulin called him "Makaronych" at one time.
    2. thrower
      thrower April 12 2014 08: 11
      +2
      And why did he wear sunglasses? So no one would guess?


      Stirlitz has never been so close to failure))
    3. Egoza
      Egoza April 12 2014 09: 51
      +2
      Quote: mamont5
      And why did he wear sunglasses? So no one would guess?

      Hat ... glasses ... disguised as Boyarsky! Just in case! So that the people get confused and do not know who to clean their faces! tongue
  • ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 12 2014 07: 28
    +3
    At present, the “fifth column” means people who constantly demonstrate their disagreement with the policy of the authorities,
    This is not disagreement, this is subversive activity aimed at the destruction of citizenship, which means the state itself. I think a raster article in due time ...
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 April 12 2014 09: 17
      +2
      Those who disagree are just the opposition, and these are the ones who fulfill the mission of enmity to undermine the foundations of society.
  • vjatsergey
    vjatsergey April 12 2014 07: 30
    +5
    deleted all songs from laptop makrevich and comb comb - at least to express his attitude towards these bastards
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 12 2014 09: 40
      +4
      I did not delete the song. Another idea - never been to their live concerts, performances.
      And now basically I won’t go! And if everyone who shares our opinion here didn’t go and advise their friends, then maybe these figures understood something when they saw an empty hall ?!
  • afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 April 12 2014 07: 35
    +2
    here the ghouls showed themselves to their full height ..
  • Vadim12
    Vadim12 April 12 2014 07: 37
    +5
    Everything turned out very well, the situation with the return of Crimea, like a flashlight, illuminated the faces of the traitors, who at a dangerous moment could stick a knife in their backs. Now everyone knows who really is who. It remains to arrange a "merry life" for the liberal intelligentsia.
    1. thrower
      thrower April 12 2014 08: 13
      +3
      No, just forget about them, don’t read their books, don’t watch their films, don’t listen to their songs. Oblivion is what they fear most.
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z April 12 2014 09: 43
        +3
        Do not go to their concerts, films!
        An empty room from us is the best indicator of their popularity as liberals!
        1. Egoza
          Egoza April 12 2014 09: 55
          +3
          Quote: Starover_Z
          An empty room from us is the best indicator of their popularity as liberals!

          only in the hall one more poster must be nailed before the concert: "We do not want to listen to the traitors of the people and the Motherland!" fellow
  • With Petrovsky
    With Petrovsky April 12 2014 07: 37
    +1
    And do not creative intelligentsia meddle in politics.
    1. Turkir
      Turkir April 12 2014 07: 45
      +9
      Who is an intellectual? Makarevich? And what's in it from an intellectual?
      Ah, you wanted to say: "There is no need for creative idlers to meddle in politics."
      I agree.
    2. Ulairy
      Ulairy April 12 2014 08: 07
      +2
      Quote: S Petrovsky
      intelligentsia meddle in politics.

      I agree, don't. But they poke around! After all, fans listen to them! So they bring their rotten liberalism to the masses, "make love, not war ..." and other garbage. "If you want peace, prepare for war" is a truth that does not need proof. And the liberals, with their "songs" and their admirers, let them dance round the meadow and be touched by butterflies. Ugh, a pitiful sight ...
    3. Egoza
      Egoza April 12 2014 10: 00
      +3
      Quote: S Petrovsky
      And do not creative intelligentsia meddle in politics.

      Creative people are different! And some have a direct path to politics, only now they remain in their place and do their job.
      I understand that not everyone loves science fiction, but do not be lazy to find a collection book "Our Cause is RIGHT" and read the FOREWORD! This is what the creative intelligentsia is! This is the answer to Akunin !!!
      (You can see on the website of Flibust - the book fraternity, author Eleanor Ratkevich)
  • mordvin71
    mordvin71 April 12 2014 07: 40
    +9
    The best band ever was "Gaza Strip"! EVERYTHING is simple and clear !!!
    Quote: siberalt
    I remember that I was demobilized from the urgent, and the advanced youth listens to the "time machine". Solid musical primitive, western awkward alterations, messy voices and very loud. Complete verbal diarrhea with a counter - find your meaning. Then I had to listen to it from every electrical appliance. I did not understand what is the point of promoting this pseudo-musical group. Now everything fell into place. Yes, then there is the platform of the fifth column for zombifying young people who are not yet strong in their minds. Try to convince you otherwise.
    1. thrower
      thrower April 12 2014 08: 20
      +1
      The phone has "Fog".
      1. Raven1972
        Raven1972 April 12 2014 18: 55
        0
        Quote: thrower
        The phone has "Fog".

        And I have - Collective farm punk)))))))))) good good good
    2. Orang
      Orang April 12 2014 08: 57
      0
      Quote: mordvin71
      The best band ever was "Gaza Strip"!

      YES, Hoi wouldn’t be curled up. live up to this time.
  • Rohon
    Rohon April 12 2014 07: 44
    +2
    There is another option, kayla in the hands and in uranium mines ....
    Chopping a bucket of atoms, ok, chopping 2 even better ...
  • mr_Doom
    mr_Doom April 12 2014 07: 46
    -23%
    Oh, how I `` like '' these comments))) Makarevich expressed his point of view and everyone is eager to cheer on his critics. And typically Soviet: "sold out", "PR" - weighs :). BG, Shevchuk, Makarevich are one of the few who can say and be heard.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 07: 57
      +8
      Quote: mr_Doom
      ... And typically USSR: '' sold out '', '' PR '' - weighs :)

      Shandarovich, you registered there. Boring in the morning, yes, I decided to support my colleagues.
      1. mr_Doom
        mr_Doom April 12 2014 08: 15
        -3
        When did you manage to switch to `` you ''?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 08: 42
          +3
          Quote: mr_Doom
          When did you manage to switch to `` you ''?

          Shandarovich go remember your favorite mattress.
    2. thrower
      thrower April 12 2014 08: 24
      +6
      I’m not minus you, I hope you will try to hear and think with your own head.

      How big are the groups of fans of Makarevich, Shevchuk and others now? Few of them. And there are fewer of them. And why ? These "figures" have ceased to create, have ceased to carry their thoughts through the talent of creativity, have turned into "money-makers".
      And Zhvanetsky said - to write, as well as to write it is necessary when there is already absolutely no strength to endure.
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 12 2014 08: 54
      +2
      Quote: mr_Doom
      ] longs to rediscover his critics

      Quote: mr_Doom
      and be

    4. La xnumx
      La xnumx April 12 2014 08: 55
      +2
      mr doom. Baby, work on the grammar. Probably skipping classes? It would be necessary for your parents to limit your stay on the Internet. And then he sometimes adversely affects the fragile psyche of children.
    5. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 09: 12
      +3
      Quote: mr_Doom
      Oh, how I `` like '' these comments))) Makarevich expressed his point of view and everyone is eager to cheer up on his critics. And typically USSR: '' sold out '', '' PR '' - weighs :)

      but I like your opus, you (liberal), as always, leave the right to "express your point of view" only to yourself, and God forbid someone say I DO NOT AGREE.

      YOU ARE THE SCAREST DICTORS !!!
      but not even this scary dictator can be a creator, you only destroy, after you only ashes and death
    6. stoker
      stoker April 12 2014 09: 53
      +4
      mr Doom.
      Hitler and Himmler also had their own "point of view". To the "Jewish question". Will we always respect other people's opinions? Can I still give my "life" for the "right" of this ka to mock my Motherland and the memory of fathers and grandfathers?
      And personally, I would advise you not to "KLAVA VISKAT", but to refresh your memory of the rules of Russian spelling.
      1. mongoose
        mongoose April 12 2014 11: 54
        +2
        but not when they did not think about the Jewish side’s contribution to the Holocaust? Why did the Germans get so excited about them?
        1. thrower
          thrower April 12 2014 12: 00
          +1
          They say that asking such questions in Germany and Austria is fraught with real prison sentences.
    7. Egoza
      Egoza April 12 2014 10: 48
      +5
      Quote: mr_Doom
      Makarevich expressed his point of view and everyone is eager to peer at his critics.

      It is one thing to express your personal opinion, and quite another to speak on behalf of the people of Russia! Which he did, saying that "the people of Russia do not support the aggression of the GDP, they support the Maidan ..." and so on. Who delegated him the right to speak on behalf of the entire people of Russia? angry
      1. atalef
        atalef April 12 2014 11: 14
        -2
        Quote: Egoza
        It is one thing to express one’s personal opinion, and quite another to speak out on behalf of the people of Russia!

        and he spoke on behalf of the people of Russia?

        Quote: Egoza
        Which he did, saying that "the people of Russia do not support the aggression of the GDP, they support the Maidan ..."

        Link please ?

        Quote: Egoza
        Who delegated the right to speak on behalf of the whole people of Russia to him?

        Here you are right. (just share the link all the same) - he can express only his opinion or the opinion of a group of like-minded people
        By the way, Elena - the same applies to you, regarding your comments on the opinion of citizens of Ukraine.
        Sincerely .
      2. mongoose
        mongoose April 12 2014 11: 55
        -2
        what a stupid question? the right was given by his Jewish ancestors
  • Magadan
    Magadan April 12 2014 07: 53
    +5
    Yes, all these "fighters" of the fifth column are playing into our hands. Firstly, they do not allow to relax in our time of troubles. Secondly, they unwittingly reveal the truth that Russia has long ceased to be a poor population. Well, the same words of Akunin, that they say, now we will not be able to rest with Spain and Italy. He would also add: "and buy Mercedes with land cruisers." Third, by their presence on the air, they prove, better than any propagandist, that Russia has real freedom of speech and the authorities' tolerance for a variety of oppositionists. Here's to you, the Maidan and the "Putlerovsky regime".
  • Lyokha79
    Lyokha79 April 12 2014 07: 53
    +3
    Amazing nearby. One gets the feeling that these people live in some kind of their own parallel world. They don’t see anything, they don’t hear, they don’t know what is happening in our countries. About the mood of people. People, although they are people, personally for me they are something between a spit on the pavement and dog excrement, which spit on the blood, millions of lives of their fellow citizens destroyed by the Nazis, support their followers, there is no future. They are cursed (like Cain). They are traitors to their ancestors, their country, their people. Everything that they do now, write and say, will return to them as a boomerang.
    1. thrower
      thrower April 12 2014 08: 26
      +2
      Indeed, they live in their own small world, communicate with a dozen of the same "freedom fighters". Where can they see the people now, nobody goes to their concerts.
  • Alex 1977
    Alex 1977 April 12 2014 07: 57
    +1
    Quote: domokl
    We have long talked about the fact that creative intelligence is the color of the nation.

    There is an alternative opinion that the intelligentsia is shit.
    As a person who can repeat the words from a very old song by Shevchuk, who, by the way, also noted in the anti-Russian hysteria, "I myself am a brother of these", I agree with this statement.
    Here are some interesting thoughts about the intelligentsia.
    http://banguerski-alex.livejournal.com/166568.html
    which I share.
  • individual
    individual April 12 2014 07: 59
    +8
    To the tart question of St. Petersburg Shevchuk, St. Petersburg Putin asked:
    Who are you? What blew up the blogosphere!
    If you are a bard, musician, writer, then create, create, but who are you in politics?
    Remember the collapse of the USSR:
    How much dirt has surfaced precisely from pseudo historians, musicians and other "creators" and specialists in lies, debauchery and decomposition of society.
    Who called me and all my people "sovkom", who pseudo rose above the people, considering all cattle?
    Here they consider it especially chic to lick their asses to the West, to slander and humiliate their homeland with impunity, which gave them everything, but did not require responsibility for misconduct and treason of national interests.
    1. thrower
      thrower April 12 2014 08: 30
      +3
      How much dirt surfaced from pseudo historians, musicians and other "creators"


      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 April 12 2014 09: 56
        +7
        She simply does not have the brains to understand that if it weren’t for the Communists, NO one would have known about her.
        1. mongoose
          mongoose April 12 2014 11: 56
          -1
          who do you mean? Leninist Trotskyists? or the Stalinists? of which it is simply not clever to consider communists?
          1. thrower
            thrower April 12 2014 12: 01
            +1
            In the case of Akhedzhakova, they were artistic councils.
      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z April 12 2014 10: 53
        +2
        Quote: achedzhakova
        "Dangerous things are threatening us - the communists will come again!"

        But who would know you if the Communists would forbid you to take pictures!
  • plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 April 12 2014 08: 13
    +4
    With the scum from the fifth column in the person of a corrupt and imaginary pseudo-intelligentsia, lyceum, prostitutes from the show industry, it’s been clear for a long time, people have already sentenced them, at the moment it’s just good that they once again showed their rat gut ... Much it’s worse that such bastards are sitting in the Kremlin and applauding Putin, our president has yet to enter the path of I.V. Stalin ... Power needs to be cleaned and thoroughly ...! A .. Makarevichi and Vermishelivichi and other Robbers will not go anywhere ... they have torn their way
  • lelik613
    lelik613 April 12 2014 08: 13
    +8
    It is foolish to consider a singer, actor or writer a moral authority or a focus of the mind. You can only compare the comparable - Makarevich with Utesov, Chaliapin ... In this way, otherwise, the donkey's voice is louder than any Makarevich, the monkey will make more grimaces than all Akhejakov’s combined and any stenographer writes letters faster than a dozen Chhartishviley. So who will we choose as an idol? Ishak, a camel, a ram?
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 12 2014 08: 56
      +4
      Quote: lelik613
      It is foolish to consider a singer, actor or writer a moral authority or a center of mind

      We understand this. But unfortunately it doesn’t affect the cattle! Zadornov quoted the letters coming to him here, one in particular: Thank you B. Akunin for his work, I study history from his books !!!
      What ???
      1. Orang
        Orang April 12 2014 09: 04
        +3
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov
        Thanks to B. Akunin for his work, I study history through his books !!!

        Seriously? To go nuts.
        1. dik-fort
          dik-fort April 12 2014 13: 48
          +2
          Many children "study" history from Mikhalkov's films, for example "The Citadel" or "Bastards" according to the script by V.V. Kunin (real name Feinberg), director A. Atanesyan, in which the plots of the films are fictional and openly false.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 12 2014 08: 59
      +5
      Quote: lelik613
      You can only compare the comparable - Makarevich with Utesov, Chaliapin

      Comparable? Makarevich with Chaliapin? Ha ha
      1. lelik613
        lelik613 April 12 2014 12: 12
        +1
        I wanted to say, in a comparable coordinate system, on a scale from zero to infinity. Because Ved and Makarevich, how would a singer?
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 12 2014 14: 15
          +1
          Quote: lelik613
          , in a comparable coordinate system, on a scale from zero to infinity. Ved and Makarevich, how would a singer?

          ... "in a comparable coordinate system" ... Pops and the classics somehow do not coincide in the same coordinate system.
          ... "on a scale from zero to infinity. After all, Makarevich is kind of a singer?" ... FIShaliapin is a great artist, a talented opera singer, a bright phenomenon of Russian and world culture of the XNUMXth century. A. Makarevich, kind of softer ... performer. Imagine "Makaronych" performing live, without equipment, even the best of his songs from the opera stage, even with a symphony orchestra ... Brrr, even the most scared!
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya April 12 2014 08: 19
    +6
    Yes, it is time to send another "creative steamer" to the West, the correctness of Lenin's decision to expel the so-called. "creative intelligentsia" and his statement about these figures is doubly relevant, he simply called them not the elite but the "shit" of the nation. Only the scum took the side of the enemies of the Fatherland in difficult times for the country! Now it became clear to all of us why they, from the traitor Vlasov, tried to blind the "fighter" against the Stalinist regime - they were preparing excuses for their own betrayal. But there is another proposal: the respected Guarantor of the Constitution, satisfy the desire of this "creative intelligentsia" to serve the Motherland, send them to explore the regions of Siberia and the Far North. At least a tuft of wool from a black sheep! And as the classic said, "they look" to the West, but "... they eat Russian bacon"!
    1. mongoose
      mongoose April 12 2014 16: 11
      0
      Lenin knew a lot about g ... intelligentsia, he see he was an intellectual half-educated
  • Ulairy
    Ulairy April 12 2014 08: 20
    +4
    the Russian army is not capable of not only conducting military operations in the territory of another country, but also of defending its own borders
    Akunin, koz.l, who did you want to offend with this vys.rom? Border guards? Everyone who served in the army? He himself did not hold anything heavier than a pen and a glass in his handles, but in the same place - "analyzes", scotch! am Do your writing and do not blather while you, among other things, are protected by the army of a large country. You will bleat about your "inability" when the NATO invaders kick you out of your house ...
  • Lyton
    Lyton April 12 2014 08: 24
    +2
    Pascuda, if creativity is not rushing, the fuse is over, then he would be silent in a rag, so no, at least you have to PR yourself.
  • lexx2038
    lexx2038 April 12 2014 08: 24
    +4
    Gather all in one carriage, or train, and send them to Ukraine, as foreign agitators, to express their contempt and distrust, they will probably be fine in Ukraine.

    [quote = mr_Doom] Oh, how I '' like '' these comments))) Makarevich expressed his point of view and everyone is eager to cheer up on his critics. And typically Soviet: "sold out", "PR" - weighs :). BG, Shevchuk, Makarevich are one of the few who can say and be heard.

    He can express his point of view in his kitchen, and they are public people, and must be responsible for their "bazaar", moreover, they are trying to put pressure on colleagues in the shop, who also have their own opinion that is different from theirs. By the way, I had the "honor" to closely contemplate Mr. Makarevich about 10 years ago, in an informal setting, so purely subjectively as a person, I gently (very mildly) did not like him, and not only to me, although he creates (created) not bad songs. But this is my opinion, although I myself am far from being a model.
  • lexx2038
    lexx2038 April 12 2014 08: 27
    0
    And no one is promoting, we also express our opinion
  • GRAY
    GRAY April 12 2014 08: 32
    +14
    Taken from http://www.vigivanie.com


    dedicated to Makarevich:
    One weirdo with a fake-sad face
    “Huddling” in the cabin of their “Porsche”,
    Said, "I am ashamed to be called Russian.
    We are a nation of mediocre drunks. "

    A solid look, behavior -
    All devil thought out cunningly.
    But the merciless degeneration virus
    Dismissed ingloriously all his gut.

    His soul is not worth a half
    Like a yellow leaf from broken branches.
    But the descendant of the Ethiopians Pushkin
    He was not burdened by his Russianness.

    They considered themselves Russian rightfully
    And they lifted the Motherland from their knees
    The creators of Russian seafaring glory
    Both Bellingshausen and Kruzenshtern.

    And not reconciling with a narrow worldview,
    Trying to look beyond the horizon
    It was considered an honor to be called Russian
    Scots - Greig, de Tolly and Lermont.

    Any of them are admirable,
    After all, to sing homeland is the law for them!
    So he gave his life without regret
    For Russia, Georgian Prince Bagration.

    Our language is multifaceted, accurate, faithful -
    He heals the soul, then smothers like steel.
    Are we able to value him immensely
    And to know him, as the Dane Dahl knew?

    What the hell is it! And in our time a lot of
    Speaking Great Language
    No worse than Mykola Gogol,
    What was once familiar with Pushkin?

    Do not bang your head on the wall
    And in a rage saliva sprinkle in vain!
    "We are Russians!" - so said Shevchenko.
    Read the kobzar carefully.

    In the soul love is filial cherished,
    All my life I worked up to seven sweats
    Suvorov, Ushakov and Mendeleev,
    Kulibin, Lomonosov and Popov.

    Their names remained on the tablets
    Like a true story of the basics.
    And among them, like a pillar, an old Derzhavin,
    In whose veins the blood of the Tatar Murza.

    They go — servants or messiahs —
    Carrying your cross on bent shoulders
    How he carried it in the name of all of Russia
    Descendant of the Turk Admiral Kolchak.

    They instilled and nurtured love
    From centuries-old origins and roots.
    He is a Russian whose soul lives in Russia,
    Whose thoughts are about mother, about her.

    Patriotism does not sell to the load
    To berets, boots or coats.
    And since you are ashamed to be called Russian,
    You, my friend, are not Russian. You are nobody. Unfortunately, I don’t know the author .......
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 12 2014 09: 11
      +2
      Quote: GRAY
      Patriotism does not sell to the load
      To berets, boots or coats.
      And since you are ashamed to be called Russian,
      You, my friend, are not Russian. You are nobody.

      I propose another ending:
      Patriotism does not sell to the load
      To a residence permit of his own.
      I note to you: you, my friend is not Russian
      The purest complexing ... ray!
    2. polly
      polly April 12 2014 11: 27
      +1
      A great example of civic lyrics! Some snotty fiery writers of miserable verses in Ukraine, who are so burdensome with Russia, would learn.
    3. Navy7981
      Navy7981 April 12 2014 14: 27
      +1
      Sumptuously!!!! Thank!!!!
    4. mongoose
      mongoose April 12 2014 16: 14
      0
      a good verse, but Pushkin's "Ethiopians" were in the female line, and the Pushkins were an ancient clan of Moscow boyars.
      We are still Russian, we consider the gender in the male line.
      Although yes, I agree with your message, neither the Sheremetyevs nor the Yusupovs refused to abandon Russianness, despite the Tatar (by no means synonymous with Turkic) origin of their ancestors
      author-Konstantin Frolov-Crimean
      http://www.stihi.ru/2012/11/18/11656
  • ssf2257
    ssf2257 April 12 2014 08: 37
    +1
    You must admit that in any team there is a black sheep. He could not carry his ideals throughout his life. He lost the spirit of a fighter. Either he was not a fighter or he was tired of life and Makarevich’s senile rushed. All streams flow into the river and strengthen it, and he decided to flow out of the river with his brook .......
  • homosum20
    homosum20 April 12 2014 08: 37
    +4
    Well, man is over 60 years old. I'll look at you what you will carry after 60. Senile insanity, Alzheimer's disease ("Alzheimer's disease (also senile dementia of the Alzheimer's type) is the most common form of dementia, a NEURODEGENERATIVE disease, first described in 1906 by the German psychiatrist Alois. As a rule, Alzheimer's.) it is found in people over 65 [1], but there is also an early illness. "Wikipedia) in the early stages, plus megalomania aggravated by fears for money in foreign banks, earned by hard work (pick, shovel, sledgehammer) during a difficult life.
    God be his judge.
  • Quantum
    Quantum April 12 2014 08: 41
    +4
    For a long time we hear the howl of the 5th column, and things are still there! It's time to apply to them
    tactics of rejection by their society in everything! Concerts, books, films and other
    do not publish their works, restrict access to work, or even not
    admit. It is clear that there will always be corrupt structures to support them, but
    it is necessary to press all those who sympathize with them and do not play a big role in
    creativity. These are the faceless ones who carried the banner of Bandera and shouted: Glory to the heroes. They must be cut off and suppressed morally. Do you want to live in Russia?
    on her land! Do not like it? Then the defeat of all rights and a hungry life on
    dumps. Those famous names, which are sick to talk about, will soon be gone, the century of life is short and the history of their life will be forgotten. But, the young people, fooled by them, will be among us. How long?
  • Aleksey11
    Aleksey11 April 12 2014 08: 42
    +2
    Makarevich is nonsense. There is such a journalist Victoria Ivleva - Russian journalist !. Here is her speech on the program of Savik Shuster - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq8mtLT8w1Y#t=5263 (who are interested). This is a penny! See for yourself. In general, you need to watch this program, in which they talk about Russian propaganda, it is necessary to watch LLC very informatively. And this journalist is an example of Who is in our country and what opinions exist.
  • calocha
    calocha April 12 2014 08: 47
    +5
    The comrades do not worship the two-headed eagle, but the calf, which is golden. Potential traitors, for 30 pieces of silver will merge anything .....
  • andj61
    andj61 April 12 2014 08: 48
    +2
    You should not bend under a changing world ... The world has changed, Russia has not bent under it, and Makarevich has just bent. But he and his songs are different things. His songs will remain without him. And he was just exhausted. I was afraid to stand up against the new challenges with the whole country. I feel sorry for him.
  • Sour
    Sour April 12 2014 08: 55
    +4
    Never loved and respected Makarevich.
    His position on Crimea does not surprise me. I well remember his behavior during the "perestroika" period. Then he was in the same ranks with the destroyers of the country.
  • Gerurra
    Gerurra April 12 2014 08: 58
    +3
    Crimea to compile a list of lousy white puppies and not to let Crimea forever with their relatives.
  • shitovmg
    shitovmg April 12 2014 09: 06
    +3
    Yes, a sore point! But, we must remember that a person makes a choice all his life. Sometimes it must be done silently, as if only for oneself. Our government makes many mistakes, but only those who do nothing do not have them. I do not like our power, but I believe that it is starting, it is just beginning to loom somewhere far ahead of the time when we can be proud of our country again. So we are on the right track !!! So, saying WE, I am also a particle of this power! Man cannot live without hope ... And if you do not help, then at least DO NOT HARM! Confusedly, but somehow.
  • GRAY
    GRAY April 12 2014 09: 07
    +11
    Perhaps Makar’s behavior is caused by more prosaic reasons, but now he will have to pay taxes to the hated Putin regime. laughing
    "Everything is trite simple. The famous musician and TV presenter Andrey Makarevich bought a Ukrainian yacht club. A big fan of extreme sports Makarevich bought a yacht club located 40 kilometers from Sevastopol. Every year the musician came to rest in this area with his family. Now he is a frequent visitor. friends-businessmen of Makarevich, who spent a lot on improving the territory. Note that Andrei Makarevich is not the only one who owns property near the Crimean city of Sevastopol. "

    According to bloggers, it was no accident that the "machinist" Makar got such a tasty morsel. "Makar had a very warm relationship with one of the oligarchs who were close to the then" Pomeranian "President Yushchenko, and, accordingly, he met with Yushchenko himself. During this period, Makar was a frequent visitor to Balaklava and any resident of the city could take a tour of the property." the machinist "shops and hotels. And now" pomeranchevo "will have to say goodbye to the Crimea. Accordingly," Makar "is also nervous ...

    His cutter:
    1. Kuvabatake
      Kuvabatake April 12 2014 15: 05
      +3
      He nevertheless caved in under a changing world ... But how he sang ... For money and rolls he will open it. But we grew up on his songs. sad
  • Pastor
    Pastor April 12 2014 09: 11
    +8
    Makarevich .. I never liked my nasal voice .. and the essence is the same rotten ..
  • Support
    Support April 12 2014 09: 17
    +3
    It is necessary to send all this intellectual trash to the West - even wherever and let there come whatever they want - at least d. Rum, at least ....
    1. parable
      parable April 12 2014 12: 23
      0
      It is better to let the forest fall, you see the mind will be typed.
  • andr327
    andr327 April 12 2014 09: 18
    +3
    According to Lenin, the intelligentsia is a "political prostitute", and gives those who pay and feeds, and can turn on the smart guy in any direction. But part of her brains are not enough and do not have time to keep their nose in the wind. So they barked on the wrong side, but now they are proud of their position.
    Still, no one has canceled the class struggle. And the petty-bourgeois Gorbi is an example of this. Donbass miner has nothing to lose, and Makar will find someone to lie under.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2014 09: 46
      +3
      Quote: andr327
      The intelligentsia according to Lenin "political prostitute"

      Not certainly in that way
      The intellectual forces of the workers and peasants are growing and gaining strength in the struggle for the overthrow of the bourgeoisie and its accomplices, intellectuals, lackeys of capital, who imagine themselves to be the brains of the nation. In fact, this is not the brain, but shit.
      (V.I. Lenin, Complete Works, fifth edition. Political Literature Publishing House, 1978, vol. 51, p. 48-49)
    2. Turkir
      Turkir April 12 2014 09: 47
      +4
      Leave the intelligentsia alone. Makarevichi, Zemfira are not intellectuals and have never been. Do they think they are iconic units?
      These are puffed balls, and not intellectuals cheated them, and those people who see them as "great" artists and singers... When people stop going to their concerts and buy from "sit" - we will see that this zeros without sticks.
      They are one sheer bad taste, it's time to wake up a long time.
      1. Angro Magno
        Angro Magno April 12 2014 10: 17
        +1
        Quote: Turkir
        Leave the intelligentsia alone. Makarevichi, Zemfira are not intellectuals and have never been.


        In Russia, the word intellectual is as synonymous with the Fifth Column as a democrat.

        The difference between the two is that the democrat works for money, that is, he is a professional, and an intellectual spoils his own country for free, at the behest of his heart.
  • Orang
    Orang April 12 2014 09: 19
    +5
    "It's a strange thing: instead of saying STOP to the Right Sector! - for some reason, Ukrainian cultural figures wrote a petition to Moscow."

    Go tell the right sector across. Suddenly he will come, who is there now for Sasha Bely, and with his butt will turn the intellectual m.o.s. Easier to petition Moscow like-minded people. So, you see, they’ll also sprinkle cookies.
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro April 12 2014 09: 27
    +3
    Quote: Gerach
    SALE Traitor to his country!

    Much attention is paid to this DE ..... MU! It is not necessary to "promote" him to make him feel like a hero - a fighter against the "system"! The best reaction to his nonsense is FORGIVING. don't pay attention, just ignore! This is the kind of reaction that will RAGE him, he will spit out in a rage and he will feel bad! And science will be different! They will understand that to carry all sorts of crap - on this you WILL NOT BECOME a folk hero and a celebrity, unless only among the stoned white-ribbon bohemian hangouts in glamor!
  • Turkir
    Turkir April 12 2014 09: 35
    +2
    It’s best to boycott their concerts.
    These Makakarevichs and Zemfir.
    Let them go into oblivion ..
  • vladstro
    vladstro April 12 2014 09: 35
    +5
    Yes, let Makarovich give concerts in Vinnytsia, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv regions, and we'll see how Bandera will react to him there. They will tell the Muscovite about Gilyak, etc. And let him, when they put him in a noose, will shout "Glory to Ukraine "and" lard for the heroes. "
    1. RAA
      RAA April 12 2014 11: 16
      +2
      They will praise Makarevich, and there can be no doubt. But Bandera will dance to the tune of Kolomoisky and nothing!
  • pahom54
    pahom54 April 12 2014 09: 51
    +2
    Our country and its history is so vast and majestic that there are always examples in its history that can be used now. The notorious grandfather Lenin was not as bloodthirsty as they are trying to draw - he simply deprived of citizenship and expelled rotten liberals from the country. Makar, oh !!! I do not like living in Russia - 3,14duy myself, of my own free will, until I threw out wherever you want (in Haiti-Tahiti, etc.).
    And in general, a list of the so-called intelligentsia, which condemned the "aggression" of Russia against the outskirts, was previously published on the forum. Honestly, it became a shame, in this list there were PREVIOUSLY FAVORITE AND RESPECTED ARTISTS. I emphasize: WERE !!!