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Dmitry Rogozin: We will come to the moon forever

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Russia has three strategic objectives in space: expanding its presence in near-earth orbits, exploration of the moon with its subsequent colonization, and also preparing and beginning exploration of Mars and other objects of the solar system. This was stated by Deputy Prime Minister of Russia Dmitry Rogozin.






“It is hardly advisable to make 10-20 flights to the moon, and then, having left everything, to fly to Mars or asteroids. This process has a beginning, but no ending: we are going to come to the moon forever. In addition, flights to Mars, to asteroids, in our view, not only do not contradict the exploration of the moon, but in many respects imply this process, ”writes vice prime minister Dmitry Rogozin in an article in the Rossiyskaya Gazeta.


At the same time, according to Rogozin, it is important to go further. He said that the implementation of a project for the study of deep space, in which Russian nuclear scientists and academic scientists will take part, will help to make a leap in the creation of domestic technologies for the development of solar energy and space natural resources.


“Currently, Roskosmos together with a number of ministries in cooperation with the Russian Academy of Sciences and the State Atomic Energy Corporation Rosatom have been tasked to work out and formulate proposals on the feasibility of implementing the national project Deep Space Exploration,” writes Rogozin.


According to the deputy prime minister, key areas developments As part of this national project will be "the creation of nuclear power plants and plasma energy conversion technologies, the development of biotechnology, robotics and new materials."


“We should not be afraid to dream, to set the highest level of development. There is everything necessary for the implementation of a new space breakthrough in Russia. We just need to learn to combine romanticism and pragmatism and properly organize our business, ”Rogozin concluded.


Recall earlier it became known that Roscosmos and the Space Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences set up a joint commission to develop a strategy for exploring the moon. At the first stage, the Earth satellite is supposed to be explored using automated spacecraft, then a manned flight will follow, after which it is planned to start building a base on the Moon, which will be visited on a rotational basis.

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  1. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger April 11 2014 05: 43
    +9
    Loudly said, strongly waved. Still would have been strong enough not only for words.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 11 2014 06: 31
      +1
      Quote: JoylyRoger
      Loudly said, strongly swung

      Rogozin, from time to time constantly, somewhere going.
      First I wanted to fly to the moon, a year passed, he forgot about it and said, “We are flying to Mars.”
      Now, again, he didn’t give a damn about Mars (it’s not seen laughing ) decided again to rush to the moon. Oh, this Rogozin, solves pressing problems, so to speak wassat
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam April 11 2014 06: 37
        0
        We should not be afraid to dream, to set ourselves the highest bar of development.

        We have a romantic Rogozin.
        1. ya.seliwerstov2013
          ya.seliwerstov2013 April 11 2014 06: 54
          +4
          GRU employee .. Let these striped stars think so. Maybe they will create a space program. We’ll cover the enemy economically, so to speak.
        2. Revolver
          Revolver April 11 2014 07: 06
          0
          Quote: MainBeam

          We have a romantic Rogozin.

          Technically, maybe it’s real. And what kind of shisha?
          1. Ruswolf
            Ruswolf April 11 2014 07: 28
            +1
            Revolver
            Technically, maybe it’s real. And what kind of shisha?

            We will collect debts from Ukraine!
            There seems to be $ 35bn
            1. Revolver
              Revolver April 11 2014 08: 42
              0
              Quote: Ruswolf
              We will collect debts from Ukraine!
              There seems to be $ 35bn

              So it is not good with brothers, albeit prodigals, to tear three skins. And again, there are far more urgent needs for which to spend these billions. Yes, at least to restore the economy of Ukraine (well, or its parts such as the southeast) when they become part of the Russian Federation. And what will come sooner or later - do not hesitate. If only because no one else is interested in them.
              1. alex13-61
                alex13-61 April 11 2014 08: 49
                0
                Quote: Nagan
                it’s not good to tear three hides from the brothers, even the prodigal ones.

                You’ll strip them off ... again.
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          3. alex13-61
            alex13-61 April 11 2014 08: 42
            0
            Quote: Nagan
            technically, maybe real. And what kind of shisha?

            So, it seems, they decided to sell US debt obligations ... and they advised China.
          4. Wheel
            Wheel April 11 2014 10: 25
            +2
            Quote: Nagan
            And what shishi?

            Good question!
            And the same good answer: on your own!
            True, in order to realize this answer, a remarkable political will is needed.
            Let's think about what kind of shisha in less than 20 years the USSR has turned from an agrarian country into an industrialized one. What allowed to survive in the most brutal war of the last century?
            On what shishi did the USSR not only restore everything destroyed by the war, but also found money for the creation of nuclear weapons and spacewalk, at the same time helping "countries that have taken the path of socialist development" almost free of charge?
            And all this in the context of a de facto blockade by the "civilized world".
            The answer is simple: a developed domestic market, a market that is virtually independent of external factors.
            Naturally, now it’s not the USSR, but Russia.
            But.
            Now there is an "oil and gas needle".
            On the one hand, this is bad, but on the other hand, there are undoubted advantages.
            The pluses are that Russia can, without straining, create a fully secured ruble.
            What prevents us from leaving the WTO, sending on a sexual journey all those humiliating obligations undertaken by the EBN, and pursuing a policy of protecting and developing the domestic market?
            I hope that the GDP is not in vain taking the generals away, and ahead of us is a modest company to curb the oligarchy's appetites.
            Of course, at this stage, a return to the USSR and socialism is hardly possible, but as the experience of China shows, the synthesis of socialism and capitalism also produces not bad results.
            There would be political will!
            And you say "shishi" ... hi
            ps. Someone I dreamed about, however ....
        3. Canep
          Canep April 11 2014 07: 10
          +8
          Quote: MainBeam
          We have a romantic Rogozin.

          What is wrong with that ?, such people have ideals and their corruption is much less likely. Even if he dreams of a fleet base on Titan, he would only take an example from Serdyukov. By the way, the atmosphere of Titan consists of methane, i.e. from natural times, there is something for Miller to think about.
          1. ziqzaq
            ziqzaq April 11 2014 08: 58
            +2
            Quote: Canep
            By the way, the atmosphere of Titan consists of methane, i.e. from natural times, there is something for Miller to think about.

            Yeah, methane there in the form of rivers and lakes, you don’t even need to liquefy .... It remains only to hold the pipe there .....
        4. bubalik
          bubalik April 11 2014 07: 44
          +1
          ,,,romantic request

          To live and believe is wonderful.
          Before us - unprecedented ways:
          Astronauts and dreamers say,
          That Mars will bloom apple trees.
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        6. Jurkovs
          Jurkovs April 11 2014 09: 02
          +3
          We are all romantics here.
        7. military
          military April 11 2014 15: 14
          0
          Quote: MainBeam

          We have a romantic Rogozin.

          he is not a romantic ... he is "Misha Balsaminov" ... laughing
      2. Very old
        Very old April 11 2014 07: 05
        0
        Well, right - J.F. Kay!
      3. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish April 11 2014 07: 24
        +1
        Yeah, the ROBOTS-AVATARS will master the moon ... He’s not in Roskosmos, he would have to shoot films with Spielberg and Camiron laughing
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    2. maks-101
      maks-101 April 11 2014 06: 38
      +2
      here we’ll fly to the moon and look at the traces of the amers whether they were there or Hollywood worked instead of astronauts.
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam April 11 2014 06: 44
        0
        The Chinese will be there before us. They will quietly change the flag of Amrososvos to their own. Or ours.
    3. asar
      asar April 11 2014 06: 48
      +4
      Korolyov came close to the Moon, but only the “wings” were clipped! And the rocket was ready, but the priorities changed!
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 April 11 2014 06: 58
        0
        How was it sung? And on Mars apple trees will bloom!
    4. Civil
      Civil April 11 2014 06: 57
      +1
      You can send guest workers there to start, well, the Schaub was tidied up, washed there, cleared
    5. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat April 11 2014 07: 44
      +1
      I want to correct you a little.
      We must swing out taking into account our strengths, but do not forget that each swing is a muscle swing for a larger swing.
      hi
    6. Alez
      Alez April 11 2014 08: 28
      0
      To master the allocated money, you need to fly immediately to Alpha Centauri, load all the officials of the dreamers into the space shuttle, Serdyukov not to forget. Let them fly
  2. MolGro
    MolGro April 11 2014 05: 51
    +6
    Back in 2012, the site of the atom grew in small letters somewhere in the news about achievements.
    There was a message about the shipment of fuel for a 1mW power plant (NRS) to power plasma engines.
    link Rosatom -
    http://www.rosatom.ru/journalist/atomicsphere/add18a804aafbb8c920dbec1a41a6ef6
    http://www.rosatomflot.ru/index.php?menuid=49&date=2012-4-0&newsid=428
    So we can assume that the installation has long been tested and revised.
    As for the information engines, in general, there are only small hints that the tests are underway.
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam April 11 2014 06: 42
      +2
      Quote: MolGro
      There was a message

      If scientific articles disappear from the general availability, then they were recognized as effective and classified for further development. So it was before, and I think that this has not changed.
      All the more so to say out loud:

      There is everything necessary for the implementation of a new space breakthrough.
  3. yulka2980
    yulka2980 April 11 2014 05: 52
    +1
    You first figure it out on Earth!
    1. Stalevar
      Stalevar April 11 2014 06: 12
      +5
      Earth - Earth, this is understandable, but one cannot forget about space for a minute. This is a guarantee of safety in the future!
  4. Lumumba
    Lumumba April 11 2014 06: 10
    +7
    Quote: yulka2980
    You first figure it out on Earth!


    Order on Earth is everyone’s personal responsibility. Do not shift it to others.
  5. DAYMAN
    DAYMAN April 11 2014 06: 10
    0
    It is tempting ... but we don’t know anything about the Ocean and the depths of the Earth, and oh how expensive!
  6. mamont5
    mamont5 April 11 2014 06: 11
    +3
    All is correct. We will arrange a military base on the moon and shout from above: I can see everything from above, you know that!
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    2. major071
      major071 April 11 2014 07: 28
      +6
      It is necessary to urgently purchase a plot on the moon! wassat Under the moon cottage with a moon garden. And then there will soon be no places! laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 11 2014 07: 56
        +1
        Quote: major071
        It is necessary to urgently purchase a plot on the moon!

        I will sell a site on the Moon, 100 hectares, the sunny side, a beautiful landscape to the Earth. Inexpensive, bargaining is appropriate, write in PM winked
        1. major071
          major071 April 11 2014 08: 02
          +6
          Alexander, hi !
          How many? lol
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 11 2014 08: 13
            +1
            Quote: major071
            How many?

            Yes, inexpensive, 100 000 in rubles winked
            1. major071
              major071 April 11 2014 11: 44
              +6
              Pull where ours did not disappear! laughing Where will the deal be made? I was offered here on Mars, they say there is a good notary, with extensive experience working on Betelgeuse and in the system of Proxima Centauri. good However, I am afraid to turn to him, especially since the recommendations came from some kind of "gray" people. wassat
  7. alexgrin
    alexgrin April 11 2014 06: 12
    +5
    What is there to understand? There will always be a lot of problems and now what not to go into space? Just then, ki need countries not to engage in war and measure pussy, but to cooperate and explore deep space!
    1. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 11 2014 06: 38
      0
      Rogozin do not distract attention from urgent problems, oh sorry passed unreasonably
      1. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf April 11 2014 07: 34
        0
        dimdimich71
        Rogozin do not distract attention from urgent problems, oh sorry passed unreasonably

        So he is about the urgent and says:
        "Will place the Voevoda on the Moon" - he also said about the watch method.
        And the Americans, instead of climbing into Ukraine, now let them think how and for what to restore their "umbrella" (SDI)
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  8. Igor39
    Igor39 April 11 2014 06: 15
    +3
    It is necessary to name some point "Moon" in Siberia and master it.
  9. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger April 11 2014 06: 19
    +11
    The moon is good. This is helium-3. And helium 3 plus deuterium is the power of nuclear reactors without the danger of radioactive contamination. The Saudis will be able to forget about oil and again begin to twist the tails of the camels.
    ZY P.i.n.d.o.s.a.m will need to look for a "bloody anti-democratic lunar regime" as soon as possible.)))
  10. Matvey
    Matvey April 11 2014 06: 34
    +4
    Space is a development, it's high time!
  11. shitovmg
    shitovmg April 11 2014 06: 35
    +2
    Space is a science, technology, industry, defense, navigation, authority and respect !!! It's time to wake up, forward the country! Spite the sanctions!
  12. Name
    Name April 11 2014 06: 39
    +3
    Quote: JoylyRoger
    Loudly said, strongly waved.

    And why not swipe at William our Shakespeare, - in this case, our presence on the moon (Stalin remembered this), let the arad from the amers begin. wink
  13. Junior, I
    Junior, I April 11 2014 06: 44
    0
    This is certainly good, but you need to look at things realistically.
    He flies somewhere in the clouds.
    We have many opportunities, there are minds, but there are no large industries that have been destroyed for decades.
    To do this, you need to raise new shops from the ruins, put robotics on the line. And this is again the time. And we have little time. It’s good if everything that you planned will work out. I only welcome such decisions.
  14. koksalek
    koksalek April 11 2014 06: 54
    0
    The main thing Americans keep away from our technology
  15. Yarik
    Yarik April 11 2014 06: 57
    +1
    At the first stage, it is planned to study the Earth's satellite using automatic spacecraft


    Question: And what else is there to explore such a global with the help of a satellite? Och is like a return to space programs since the USSR. Treading on the spot, in a word.
    1. sir.jonn
      sir.jonn April 11 2014 07: 50
      0
      Quote: Yarik
      .And what else is there to explore such a global

      If a long-term station is assembled, then only in this direction of research will be enough for more than one mission.
      The goal of such research will always be sufficiently blurred and not economically profitable, as in the rest of the entire space program. It can be justified only by a distant prospect, possibly through the repeated cessation and subsequent reincarnation of work in this direction.
    2. saag
      saag April 11 2014 08: 40
      0
      Look for water, ilmenite deposits
  16. GHOST_AAA
    GHOST_AAA April 11 2014 06: 59
    +2
    HE simply trolls our western "PARTNERS", and sets the bar for development.
  17. parus2nik
    parus2nik April 11 2014 07: 27
    +1
    Let's eat moon tomatoes ... if possible ...
  18. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign April 11 2014 07: 30
    +1
    Romantic ... It's not bad.
    I won’t write anything yet - I’ll insert pictures. smile
    Damn, not clinging, but sorry ...
  19. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob April 11 2014 07: 43
    +2
    It’s time to space, otherwise we will cross into compost.
  20. individual
    individual April 11 2014 07: 46
    +1
    Dmitry Olegovich.
    Before exploring Luna-Mars, it would be necessary to master the Russian roads, the rural outback, Siberia and the Far East.
    And then "apple trees will bloom on Mars"!
    love
  21. Quantum
    Quantum April 11 2014 08: 06
    +1
    Is there a lot of skepticism? Russia needs space, even if the roads are not in order. This is still a prospect, but is quite feasible in the coming years.
    We will all be pleasantly surprised that ahead of the rest.
    minerals on the moon will give impetus to new technologies, and finding itself
    our or international groups - this is a great success of Russia.
    So that Rogozin is right in voicing the intentions of the entire scientific space
    complex of Russia. So keep it, Russia!
  22. die1981
    die1981 April 11 2014 08: 11
    0
    Keep it up! Space must be mastered necessarily.
  23. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y April 11 2014 08: 24
    +2
    "Space maps are loaded into the tablets ..." - only first the space industry needs to be restored. So that the sensors are not installed in place with a sledgehammer ... They have been successfully falling apart for more than 20 years, people were running around, where should the specialists come from? ..

    But the Moon is a good thing, I would fly by myself. :)
  24. bleckhill
    bleckhill April 11 2014 08: 47
    +5
    It will be cool to look at idiots from the USA who bought land on the moon xs from whom)))))
    1. arutun
      arutun April 11 2014 09: 56
      0
      Again, Russia will say the occupier, captured our plots on the moon)))))))
  25. demon184
    demon184 April 11 2014 08: 53
    0
    And it’s not for nothing that all continents applaud the workers of the Bolshoi Theater laughing
  26. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 11 2014 09: 08
    +1
    Space must be mastered, this is unique. Indeed, in vain, Stalin at one time at the Potsdam Conference suggested that the Allies divide the Moon into sectors, but they refused. And Stalin with his sagacity looked much ahead.
  27. nod739
    nod739 April 11 2014 09: 08
    0
    Quote: Canep
    By the way, the atmosphere of Titan consists of methane, i.e. from natural times, there is something for Miller to think about.

    but I think - well, NASA is torn on titanium ???
    how can it be there ??? as soon as the soft landing engines work - the whole methane atmosphere burns up nafig))) - Miller so that he doesn’t get it - it turns out that way)))
  28. nod739
    nod739 April 11 2014 09: 15
    0
    Quote: sir.jonn
    The goal of such research will always be sufficiently blurred and not economically profitable, as in the rest of the entire space program. It can be justified only by a distant prospect

    instead of eating the last bananas on a branch, the monkey entered the field, and the goal of exploring the field for food was not very profitable - there are plenty of fangs, and not much food, but in the long run ......
    in general, we would live on trees, eating bananas, if we had not explored nearby territories at one time))))
  29. nod739
    nod739 April 11 2014 09: 24
    0
    Quote: yulka2980
    You first figure it out on Earth!

    in general, in the middle of the 20th century, when they built Baikonur, when they developed the cosmonautics industry, when the Strelok Squirrel and Man launched, there were much more problems on earth - the recent war, the restoration of the economy, the Caribbean crisis, the confrontation with America, the housing issue and a bunch of other problems, but it did not stop to make a breakthrough and develop a grandiose industry !!!!
    see wider and to the root
  30. 787nkx
    787nkx April 11 2014 09: 41
    +1
    Issue to Deputy Prime Minister Rogozin D.O. the following material values:

    GRAVITSAPA - 1 pc.
    1. military
      military April 11 2014 15: 17
      +1
      Quote: 787nkx
      Issue to Deputy Prime Minister Rogozin D.O. the following material values: GRAVITSAPA - 1 pc.

      put this patsak in pepelats ... and send to conquer Pluha ... laughing
  31. Wiruz
    Wiruz April 11 2014 09: 43
    0
    May the force be with us!
  32. Freemason
    Freemason April 11 2014 09: 59
    0
    I saw a video with Putin not long ago: he said one phrase there: What is a strong state? This is not only a strong leader strange. these are clear, bold, ambitious, but really feasible tasks. If they are, then the state will develop. If they are not there will be a degradation process.
    The bold statements of Rogozin, ambitious, the main thing is that things go further, do not stop at words!
  33. buzer
    buzer April 11 2014 10: 08
    +1
    Good luck Mr. Rogozin! In any case, I would have to explore the moon. The moon is not Crimea, there is no need for a referendum! Who is the first one and slippers ...
  34. nva8
    nva8 April 11 2014 10: 27
    -1
    The surface of the moon contains elements necessary for a fusion reactor, now the production of such fuel requires the efforts of several countries (for example, ... calider)
    The first one to get at least 1 kg of this fuel from the Moon will feed the whole Earth with electric energy for a couple of years.
    Gas consumption with oil will begin to decline ...
    So, RUSSIA should be the first in this direction, all the more there is a basis for this (rocket engines, robotic probes, etc.)
    Tsiolkovsky’s fantasies - today, these are everyday life of astronautics,
    and what Rogozin said is more of a program statement, for a decade ahead, but a lot of directional work will depend on the result of which
  35. Bosk
    Bosk April 11 2014 10: 58
    0
    And there is nothing impossible in this, the technologies are worked out, the industrial base is there, the money is acquired, so if in real terms and not under the emergency, then all this is very real.
  36. kelevra
    kelevra April 11 2014 12: 42
    0
    Where we were the first, you must always be and remain leaders!
  37. razved
    razved April 11 2014 14: 42
    0
    D. Rogozin used to be famous for making obscure statements that were later denied by crowds of people. and tried to do so in order not to harm Olegitch’s reputation. Recently, frank blunders were not noticed behind him.
  38. Demon0n
    Demon0n April 11 2014 15: 31
    0
    To "conquer" the solar system, we need at least an order of magnitude more economical systems for putting cargo into orbit (reusable), our own transit station in the region of the Moon and a fuel (extraction of raw materials, processing and launching into orbit) complex on the Moon. There is nothing. This does not mean that nothing needs to be done, but it would be worth starting with the simplest (moreover, demanded within the framework of "commercial space"), known fifty years ago: cost-effective reusable surface-space-surface cargo vehicles. A reasonable question arises: the reason (?) Of the suspension, refusal from the relevant programs and developments ...
  39. Status
    Status April 11 2014 20: 13
    0
    Quote: maks-xnumx
    here we’ll fly to the moon and look at the traces of the amers whether they were there or Hollywood worked instead of astronauts.


    Hollywood, the stump is clear! I wonder what our "American partners" will say in this case? belay