Ukraine has stopped pumping Russian gas

Russian gas pumping stops Ukraine. “We still have time to make the appropriate download,” Yuriy Prodan, who was appointed by the Verkhovna Rada Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, explained at a cabinet meeting.

Actions of Ukraine Yuriy Prodan explained that the Ukrainian side is not satisfied with the level of gas prices set by Gazprom from April 1 of 2014 of the year. Ukraine hopes to negotiate with the Russian side to return the old price, which was in the first quarter of this year.

However, Ukraine has not paid for the March gas either. The debt of Naftogaz Ukrainy increased in March by 550 million dollars. The total debt of the Ukrainian side to Gazprom thus rose to 2,2 billion dollars.

Comments

[Riperbahn]

Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?

[bubalik]

,,, as I understand it, they completely cut off gas pumping to Europe ?, or not

[krechet-1978]

Of course not. They will simply steal the European transit.

[bubalik]

krechet-1978 SU  Today, 15: 11 ↑

Of course not. They will just steal the European transit

,,, yeah, Europe will receive less gas and with claims to Russia about the interruption of supplies ,,,
and scho Russia is again to blame!? ,,,

[avg]

Quote: bubalik

, yeah, Europe will receive less gas and with claims to Russia about the interruption of supplies ,,,

The answer is classic.
- Can I have gas in the morning and money in the evening? You can, but money in advance!

[_my opinion]

that’s the answer - Putin: Gazprom will supply gas to Ukraine only in the amount paid for a month in advance

Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/27073#ixzz2yP09VizU

[siberalt]

In the previous comment it is clearly written that they can only steal European transit. So, no complaints to Russia.

[shaman-25rus]

a couple of years ago I noticed that gas in cans for lighters, sold in Moscow, was released in the city of Sumy ....

[Coffee_time]

And it will look like this

[Tersky]

Quote: krechet-1978

They will simply steal the European transit.

Here they guessed the hell ... the counter at the beginning, and the counter at the exit, the difference in the account URKAine, + to 2,2 lard green. It’s for them not at the grandmother’s pyataks from under the mattress to rub.

[zanoza]

Quote: Tersky

Well, they guessed the hell ... a counter at the beginning, and a counter at the output ...

Gas theft won't stop it. Debts are not being paid now, +++++ it is only on paper. International arbitration (?) - "friends of Ukraine" will try to slow it down ...
That is why the EU is striving to "freeze" the construction of the South Stream pipeline: they are conniving at the lawlessness of "poor, poor" Ukraine, and we will have reason to make claims for the "deliberate", in their opinion, not supplying gas ...

[Tersky]

Quote: zanoza

Theft of gas will not stop it.

Even as he stops, Geyropa will immediately react, because it is they who will receive less of it for exactly the volume that Urkainskiy "NafigGaz" will try to blur. For this, the metering of the released and the metering of the received gas has been established, if there is a discrepancy, then all claims against the transit country.

[APASUS]

Quote: Tersky

Even as he stops, Geyropa will immediately react, because it is they who will receive less of it for exactly the amount that Urkainskiy "NafigGaz" will try to blur.

This situation with blackmail is being played out more for Europe, they say it’s time to fork out and give us a loan, but we know how to spend it. But this does not happen.
And Europe is waiting for steps from Russia to reproach once again with pressure on the young democratic state.
I read a very interesting article from experts from the United States about the supply of American liquefied shale gas to Europe and Ukraine, as opposed to Russian gas. It was clearly stated that in addition to purely technical problems, Ukraine does not threaten to receive gas from America. The country's credit history is too bad Gazprom !!!
So, you have to pay under any authority!

[Egoza]

Quote: APASUS

This blackmail situation is being played out more for Europe

sold has already "warned" Europe that the exorbitant price for Ukraine will call into question the supply to Europe, because the price of transit and gas are incomparable ... etc. As far as I remember, gas for Europe was fully pumped in under Yanukovych, but now Ukraine will buy less, and because of this it will not be able to supply gas to Europe. I'm just not sure about the technology, so I don't disseminate how it depends. On the contrary, Ukraine is going to buy Russian gas from Europe in reverse! However, not all the countries that Sold is counting on have agreed! Not enough ourselves! Yes, and it is fraught with international standards.

[inkass_98]

Quote: Tersky

Still how to stop

Nothing will stop it. Remember what preceded the signing of the treaty with Yule. Every New Year, according to the established tradition, the Ruin quietly began to pump gas from the pipe, pumping it into its storage facilities. After the time when strange numbers began to appear on the counters in Slovakia, which did not correspond to the numbers of the counters at the entrance, Ruina began stories about the evil M.O.skals who brought the unfortunate nenka, who was striving to Europeia, to such a life. A pan-European howl began, Russia remained to blame, another agreement was solemnly signed, Urkaina received our loan to pay off debts to us. Now it will be the same, only we will have to pay compensation for the "annexation" of Crimea. So I lived like that.

[Wellych]

yes, and we will have a reason to make claims for "deliberate", in their opinion, not to supply gas

Claims are one thing, and a furious freezing electorate on the eve of the elections is another.
The junta will snatch the last piece from its people, but deliver gas to its sovereigns. Otherwise, even their master will be federalized.

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: krechet-1978

Of course not. They will simply steal the European transit.

[Stalker]

Meet !!!!

[prophet]

they have an excess of peas. They themselves will produce

[Polarfox]

What a surplus there! They have potatoes and carrots from Holland in stores. For maidan easier than mapotop grow.

[infinite silence ...]

yeah ... And on the Maidan current has risen ... radish ...

On Independence Square in the center of Kiev, Euromaidan activists, who still remain in the square, planted a garden and plan to get pets. A bed has already been planted at one of the tents not far from the subway exit on ul. Khreshchatyk. There, activists planted radishes, lettuce, onions, dill and parsley.

What is adequate speech about?

[Tersky]

Quote: bubalik

,,, as I understand it, they completely cut off gas pumping to Europe ?, or not

To pump does not mean to disconnect, gas is pumped into underground storage facilities for accumulation (these are natural voids in the earth's crust) with subsequent pumping and transportation to the consumer. Gas has gone to Europe as it is ..

[Igarr]

Victor, gas batteries are designed to smooth out consumption peaks. Which usually fall in the winter.
Ahead of summer, you can spit on next winter. For the Yaytsenyukh team it’s quite a brain.
Therefore, they upload - until they will.
Either fall apart by the fall. Either other people will hold the answer for gagging.
...
This is not good for us because, God forbid, we will have to increase the pressure in the highways in the fall. Well, we will not really freeze the population of Ukraine.
And pressure is transport.
Overloading the trunk with pressure - well, here, inflate the tires of the car twice and drive at increased speed.
Pressure and gas supply volumes are uniquely related.
...
There is a wild lack of professionalism and cunning of the Ukrainian government.

[Egoza]

Quote: Igarr

Either other people will hold the answer for gagging.

So they want to sell the pipe to Europe!

[Tersky]

Quote: Igarr

Victor, gas batteries are designed to smooth out consumption peaks. Which, as a rule, fall in the winter. Ahead of the summer, you can spit on the coming winter. For the Yaytsenyukh team it’s completely brain

Igor ! As far as I know, the entire cumulative volume of gas should be within 78-85 lard cubic meters. meters, according to Gazprom, 66,5 were downloaded to the storage facilities today, the Ukrainian side blocked about 11,5 meter cubic meters for pumping. gas transportation for debts was stopped ...

[Turkir]

Of course not. They just shout: "We will cut off. We have no money. Change the price." The meaning is one - Europe, pay for us. We are your faithful knight dogs.

Europe has already pumped gas to its full potential. Ukraine will not give money. And we download everything, download .. What for? God knows why ..

[svetlomor]

Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?

Russia is a generous soul.

[Canep]

Quote: Riperbahn

Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?

But the price in 500 $ per thousand cubic meters is it not chopped off?

[mamont5]

Quote: Canep

But the price in 500 $ per thousand cubic meters is it not chopped off?

Yes, it seems like Europe pays about this or not?

[avt]

Quote: mamont5

Yes, it seems like Europe pays about this or not?

There is one interesting trick - Gazprom does not sell gas to an intermediary like Naftogaz, they let it into local grid companies and they sell gas practically to the consumer, which makes the wholesale price lower, so Lithuania Gazprom squeezed out of its grids and got it. The funny thing is that this Prodan is stirring up trouble with gas now, as part of Yulka’s delegation he was pushing through the current gas contract, and now he is shouting, "We are nailed ... do we agree!"

[Egoza]

Quote: avt

This Sold one is stirring up with gas now, as part of Yulka’s delegation he was pushing through the current gas contract, and now he is shouting - "We really ... don't agree!" laughing

The most interesting thing is that "such a bad Yanukovych" took care of reducing the gas price! A bastard, a scoundrel, a scoundrel, but ... we will use its results.
Gentlemen Maydanuty! You would have decided if you did not recognize him as president as well as Azarva as prime minister, then all of their signed contracts are invalid! And if you want to use THEIR contracts, then who are you? And about? Or maybe IA! Ah! Ah! (donkeys from the Maidan)

[Tersky]

Quote: Canep

But the price in 500 $ per thousand cubic meters is it not chopped off?

Sergey, it’s chopped off a freebie ..

[Gloria45]

And why, in fact, should the price be 268? The contract was signed with Yanukovych,
where is yanukovych? Where are all the other contracts and their implementation?
How does one want to enter Paradise on someone else’s hump, and even with a breeze,
moreover, and taking off all responsibility! Take all this pack
brainless to convey, like bugs, half the world would breathe a sigh of relief.

[SS68SS]

"This exactly corresponds to the contract, but at the same time, given the difficult situation in which Ukraine is located and the incompleteness of our negotiation process with the European Union, I would ask the government and Gazprom to refrain from using these opportunities up to holding additional consultations, if, of course, our the partners will agree to these consultations. If not, then we will act in accordance with the contract, "Putin said.

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20140409/1003202451.html#ixzz2yOnUohnL

[jjj]

Meanwhile, in Europe they realized that Obama had inflated them with American gas. And the point is not even that in the next decade it is impossible to physically build the necessary fleet of gas carriers. In America, there are currently only four liquefaction plants in real condition. And they have been contracted for decades to supply liquefied gas to Asia. The average price in Asia today is 700 dollars per thousand cubic meters. Moreover, the Americans sell gas by themselves. And no one is going to sell these volumes in Europe at 400 dollars. Gazprom has no alternative. We would also raise prices in the trouble that began

[Semen Semyonitch]

The price of gas depends on the price of oil.

[Sid.74]

Quote: Semyon Semyonich

The price of gas depends on the price of oil.

Here the news slipped almost unnoticed, Sechin may possibly head (SPbMTSB) St. Petersburg International Commodity and Raw Materials Exchange! Not so ours decided to set fire to the dollar nevertheless !!!

[siberalt]

And not only ours. Here, even Japan does not mind.

[polly]

... Ukraine is an eternal freebie! They even have such a surname - Freebie. I personally know a person with that surname.

[Coffee_time]

They have a minister with a surname sold

[avt]

Quote: Coffee_time

They have a minister with a surname sold

Moreover, USm has been sold for a long time and really with all its surname and pets.

[hawk]

This is Julia Shalava.

[testerman]

In our company, one such works. What type ....... in general, fully realizes his surname)))

[jayich]

You can’t, didn’t you think about ordinary people? Money is money, and living in the Stone Age is bad. Who has a private house and the stove can be preserved and in high-rise buildings what to cook, where does the electricity come from, etc.
Our government is beginning to understand that the main natural resource is people who are protecting it.

[gorku68]

Ordinary people consume their own Ukrainian gas. It has long been asserted many times ... Although this makes it no easier for them.

[SS68SS]

Quote: gorku68

Ordinary people consume their own Ukrainian gas. It has long been asserted many times ... Although this makes it no easier for them.

What kind of Ukrainian gas? Is it on peas? Hto not pern that m.oskal?

[SS68SS]

Quote: gorku68

Ordinary people consume their own Ukrainian gas. It has long been asserted many times ... Although this makes it no easier for them.

What kind of Ukrainian gas? Is it on peas? Hto not pern that m.oskal?

[Egoza]

Quote: SS68SS

What kind of Ukrainian gas?

There is gas in Ukraine! Only its reserves are enough only for consumers. Naturally, it is much cheaper. For industry, no! right there, the whole chip was in Julia with her EESU. Expensive gas was supplied to consumers, while cheap gas was sent to "effective owners" and to Europe. Do you feel the margin? BILLIONS !!!

[mpa945]

I read and read, but I didn’t understand: whose government, who protects whom?
If something in our country is not gasified villages of darkness. Somehow they live ...
And the evaders are evicted.

What about you?

[jayich]

I meant the government of the Russian Federation saves the human resources of Ukraine. I live in the Voronezh region; gasification of the region is about 80%.
By the way, regarding the eviction of defaulters, it’s a good idea, for example, to evict the US (Ukrainian government) to the USA.
You can live in a dugout, but with comfort it’s somehow better.

[Demo]

and we have conducted gas everywhere, even to those who refused)) but to evict, they don’t evict, they just chop it off and that’s all ... and they don’t complain .... they don’t need gas, they’ve got to cook everything in the oven .. it’s much tastier ....

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: jayich

Our government is beginning to understand that the main natural resource is people who are protecting it.

Sorry, but this mention of the "common people" is already tired, go to the censor, freedom .... the choice is huge and talk to the "common people" I wonder what you say later!

[jayich]

Yes, you can say that you can have all sorts of nasty things, but it will become easier for anyone. They don’t laugh at sick people, but treat them.
As some American politician said yes he is mu.dak, but he is our mu.d.k., here is the same with Ukraine.
That's why I try to express myself as politically as possible as possible, that we lose the information war in Ukraine, and this is a no brainer when a person is told 1000 times a day that he is mentally disabled, he begins to believe in it.
Fuh, well, something like that.

[Vorkutinets]

The most correct statement: People above all! In Russia, for some reason, it does not work. We worry about Ukraine, that is, people !!!! and in the country itself, still half of the gas is not UNDERSTANDABLE.

[Samsebenaum]

Riperbahn

Quote: Riperbahn

Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?

In this case, we would be accused of all sins. New sanctions would follow.

[Sid.74]

Meanwhile, the hryvnia broke a new historical low!

KIEV, April 9. / ITAR-TASS /. The US dollar against the Ukrainian hryvnia at the beginning of trading on the interbank market grew by 2,5% - to 12,15 hryvnia per dollar (as of 14: 40 Moscow time), setting a new historical maximum.

Well, the breakdown is already close! I used to think that the Kiev junta only wants power and money, but now I think the task is to eliminate the state of Ukraine!

[Sid.74]

Shaw people going? Off topic but!

From 2015 of the year, the test part of the exam will disappear from the exam, it will be replaced by an oral answer.
I. Livanov Ministry of Education

[siberalt]

There are no tests in the exam in mathematics for a long time. Giving up guessing won't solve the problem. In the states, they are optional. Here we need a refusal about the Bologna School of Education. Enough to release "blanks" for turning like bachelors.

[Tersky]

Quote: Sid.74

The US dollar against the Ukrainian hryvnia at the beginning of trading on the interbank market grew by 2,5% - up to 12,15 hryvnia per dollar (as of 14:40 Moscow time), setting a new historic maximum.

Yesterday we watched the news, showed how much the cost of medicines in Ukraine had risen, my wife was a pharmacologist by profession, so she was shocked by the prices ...

[Lord of the Sith]

But such a picture

[gladysheff2010]

So pleased, so pleased! What a mighty country, Poland, "... Ay, Moska, know she is strong ..."

[Tersky]

Quote: Sith Lord

But such a picture

And he did not think that Russia could give him 3 hours to get him off the face of the earth ...

[Sid.74]

"People buy little, we have almost no profit, we are reducing the volume of purchases. There is inflation in the country, but there is no question of raising the salaries of employees. We can pay the current rates only by reducing staff. We are gradually getting rid of" office plankton. " will continue to grow, you will have to fire managers, cashiers, otherwise you will not survive, "said Vladimir Molchanov, a top manager of one of the largest retail chains.

Well, dear office plankton - stuck? Especially Kiev, which, in general, I am not at all sorry.

[Zeus]

A significant part of Russophobian ... comes from office Kiev plankton.

[raven75]

Yeah ... Even the United States did not dare to blather something like that. Give Russia 30 days to leave the Crimea ... Strongly said! This crap Poland in FIG is not interesting to anyone, because it is a complete zero. They themselves there, see, understand, and here they are at least trying to somehow remind themselves of themselves, knowing that nothing will happen to them for their blathering. Well, like a healthy adult man on the street, suddenly a five-year-old child will swear. A man spoils and goes on.

[Ajax]

Offer him 30 days to self-destruct

[Warlock_r]

Uh ... And where is Poland? :)

[thrower]

Wrong you ask a question. It will be right - And Poland, whose is it now, to whom does it belong?

[Zeus]

Let the lollipops lollipop icicles)

[Lelek]

Poland is a good country, but there are too many Poles.

[Riperbahn]

I’ll give up everything and leave for Poland,
How m. Jerk!
There will all be Poles,
I alone am not a Pole !!!
(C) Ben Gan

[Turkir]

Former Polish Foreign Minister, give advice to his Polish grandmother.

[genzik161]

RUSSIA DUST 2 DAYS so that Poland will be removed from the geyropa, otherwise there will be more desert on the world map

[Saratoga833]

He cracked his head hard on the jamb!

[starhina01]

Was he by chance not shouting from a psychiatric hospital?

[siberalt]

But does he not want to fly to lay a wreath in Katyn? It is possible with the entire Polish government.

[Sergey S.]

In response, Moscow gave 30 minutes.
Who didn’t hide ...

But seriously, employees of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, even former ones, are not entitled to irresponsible statements.
Apparently, in Poland there are not enough educated people if such appearances appear.

[bif]

Quote: Riperbahn

Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?

9 April 2014, 16: 41
"The head of the Russian government Dmitry Medvedev said on Wednesday that there is every reason to switch to advance payments for gas with Ukraine."
http://vz.ru/news/2014/4/9/681281.html
It is high time!!

[Skipper2050]

Russia is kind, it cannot abandon its brothers (clowns) to its own devices, ordinary citizens will suffer.

[VAF]

Quote: Riperbahn

Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?

Because ....... in short ... watch the speech of V.V. Putin ... he already expressed his opinion there, there, in the sense, at the meeting. already broadcast in all news channels.
I personally understand everything. unfortunately ..... well, everyone .. hears that. what .. wants ... but a reason for there is no .... in my opinion

[Zeus]

“This exactly corresponds to the contract, but at the same time, given the difficult situation in which Ukraine is located and the incompleteness of our negotiation process with the European Union, I would ask the government and Gazprom to refrain from using these opportunities <...> up to holding additional consultations if, of course, our partners will agree to these consultations. If not, then we will act in accordance with the contract, "Putin said.

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20140409/1003202451.html#ixzz2yP2ZMoGe

[siberalt]

Polite Putin made a final warning. What to consult about?

[Nick]

Quote: Riperbahn

Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?

And where to supply it? You can’t stop production. It is not economically feasible to close wells and stop production. And it will be very difficult to resume production ...

[Riperbahn]

Is it economically feasible to give it away as a gift to the brother-ridden brothers? Something I do not understand then in the economy :(

[Lantau]

Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

[polite people]

And they have an order to overwhelm production, as in the Baltic countries.
There you are paid grandmothers for your land, but are not allowed to work on it,
just mow the grass.

[polite people]

And they have an order to overwhelm production, as in the Baltic countries.
There you are paid grandmothers for your land, but are not allowed to work on it,
just mow the grass.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Lantau

Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

They are thinking of farting in tanks over the summer. There is no money. And there will not be

[Lantau]

Quote: Sterlya

Quote: Lantau

Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

They are thinking of farting in tanks over the summer. There is no money. And there will not be

To do this, you need to eat a lot of peas, and it still needs to be planted and grown. Banderlogs do not want to work and hence the conclusion - there will be no gas

[0255]

Quote: Lantau

Quote: Sterlya

Quote: Lantau

Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

They are thinking of farting in tanks over the summer. There is no money. And there will not be

To do this, you need to eat a lot of peas, and it still needs to be planted and grown. Banderlogs do not want to work and hence the conclusion - there will be no gas

they plant beds in Kiev, maybe they will grow peas there
In general, they are interesting people - they hate and curse m_skal’s, and they want to buy m_skal gas at the old price, which Yanukovych, who escaped from the country, agreed on, which they also hate Logic, where are you ???

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: Sterlya

Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

No, but aside from jokes? They live one day? Like butterflies?
Personally, I see 2 options:
1) The Americans love Ukraine very much and they will ruin everything, but we don’t have to do anything!
2) Anyway, the war with Russia, we win, we take everything from them, we lose, they will feed anyway!
Something like that!

[Sterlya]

Quote: dmitriygorshkov

No, but aside from jokes? They live one day? Like butterflies?

Yes. like butterflies. they are already political corpses

[serega.fedotov]

Quote: Lantau

Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

So they drown it in the winter! And the Natsyks now have to stay in power! Yes and no one will say at all now whether Ukraine will survive before the winter!

[62 RUSSIAN]

Putin: will you drown with wood?

[smile]

Lantau
Wait, you’ll see how they will stop eating for us .... and drink .... in this case, the need to breathe over time will disappear on its own .... :))) In principle, I do not mind, so that the Nazis themselves cleaned Ukraine from their presence ....

The Chinese have such a rather sophisticated way of revenge - to hang themselves on the gates of their enemy ... so that bandarlogs prompted such a sensible thought? :))) And we would be happy to provide the gate to them .... :)))

[ale-x]

Another famine?

[smile]

ale-x
:))) No, the Holodomor is such a communist beast in the Budennovka, which the evil Mos .. commissars are releasing into the territory on which the autocrats have lived for millennia. The beast wanders around the habitat of ancient ukrov and asks all passers-by for passports - as soon as it turns out that a Ukrainian is caught, its beast is genocide to death. He releases the rest, making him a pen under the visor. :))) Ancient Ukrainians tell us about this, who escaped reprisal due to the fact that when they went out into the street they forgot their passport at home ... they also don’t have a pair in the diary, since they usually forgot the diary at home too .... :))))

[i80186]

By the way, one of the gains of the October Revolution was the abolition of passports.

[pv1005]

Yes and figs with them. Let them try to buy in the EU on the cheap.

[andrewvlg]

May they "grab" part of the gas that goes to Europe in transit. They will simply not pay until it comes to a scandal (until the Gay Europeans start freezing). Plus, so far they have "reserves" in storage.

[bigELDAK]

Well, a debt of 2,2 was back in February.

[rumatam]

it was necessary to immediately shut off the taps. They probably made the stock well, they got warm on their street.

[Orik]

Quote: rumatam

it was necessary to immediately shut off the taps. They probably made the stock well, they got warm on their street.

They rocked hard in March at the old price, now they will grimace. But for today there is no problem the Belarusian branch and the joint venture, I think, are able to provide summer gas supplies to the geyropa, and they will resolve these mu.dakas before winter. .

[Roman 1977]

Kiev began production of gas with the words: “Whoever doesn’t fart, that’s the best of them!”

[bubalik]

,,, let it be so ,,,

[Roman 1977]

Somehow like this...

[Pharao7766]

Ukraine stopped pumping Russian gas = And began pumping European.

[johnsnz]

"STOPPED DOWNLOADING". Another would be to block the pumping

[VNP1958PVN]

They pretended to be poor, and each of them has a dozen tie-ins into the pipe. Now they will steal for free!

[Chifka]

"Ukraine has stopped pumping Russian gas. In this regard, the Ukrainian government is negotiating with Russia on the supply of firewood, stoves, stoves, blankets, as well as primus and kerosene stoves at prices lower than European ones ...."

[polite people]

Winter will come in summer.

[forester]

nothing, wait, nothing - winter is coming soon

[VPO]

Damn, turn off these "Brothers" at last. Enough. Let Europe feed this herd. I'm tired of paying for the neighbors. And they will continue to mumble to turn off Eropa. The Chinese are already tired of knocking on the door.

[rugor]

Do not forget that selling gas is also a business, a very good business for us. And it’s bad when the consumer has financial problems, bad for everyone. Who is to blame, the next question.

What to do now, it’s not clear, it’s just not possible to block the pipe, Europe is also sitting on it, and it is physically difficult to stop the gas extraction, especially in the existing anarchy

[Aleksandr12]

They are like masochists, running into the fact that they are ... released. They will steal gas, Russia will block it, Europe will rebel (like what are you doing there, we don’t get gas). Naturally, no one will speak with gas thieves, troops will be sent in to ensure uninterrupted gas supplies to Europe. Who will send the troops is another question (most likely Russia, because this is a costly affair, no one will take on additional costs, and America will not be allowed). Small clashes with peacekeepers - chaos in Ukraine (even worse than in Syria). Europe doesn’t give a damn, the main gas comes according to the plan + bonus as a civil war between Russians and Ukrainians (this is for them for the soul). Only the west wins, the rest are in full priest ...

[prophet]

It was necessary to build long ways around

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: rugor

and it’s physically difficult to stop gas extraction, especially in the existing anarchy

Yes, there was already such a topic. At the entrance to Ukraine there are counters, and at the exit too. Western observers should be allowed to the counters "at the entrance", and according to THESE indications, let them pay! And with your own Uyob.i.sch.n. ... let them figure it out by themselves! It's simple, no fancy!

[alex-cn]

Europe will figure out theft quickly, and even the "revolutionaries" will not forgive the freezing M there

[vst6]

Probably no one does not go to the store without money, much less buy if the price does not suit.

[Voinnet]

I just want to say a phrase from one of the series: "Winter is coming"

[Sochi]

The future of Ukraine - we will not buy fuel and gas:

[Rubmolot]

Only ostriches in EU zoos expect the amazing effectiveness of these sanctions against Russia.

[Sergg]

Ukraine has stopped pumping Russian gas

The question is when the United States will allocate money to Ukraine to pay for gas already purchased.
Or America is plotting something dirty again.

[mamont5]

Quote: Sergg

The question is when the United States will allocate money to Ukraine to pay for gas already purchased.
Or America is plotting something dirty again.

What is the money from America? What are you? America promised Ukraine 1,1 billion dollars. This will not be enough for them not only to pay off gas for us (the debt is already more than 2 billion), but also for other urgent payments. And they are still going to raise the army with this money.

[Bkmz]

[quote = Sergg] [quote]
Or America is plotting something dirty again. [/ quote]

And when was it different?

[AK-74-1]

Yes, the current government will not receive real money.
So far there is no raw material sponsor (5 months ago - Russia and only for gas), which will provide food and energy resources for the inhabitants of the territory "Ukraine". Since May 1, government employees will be cut, pensions will be frozen, and other joys in the form of cutting off gas supplies Who do you think will give the real loot, for which you can buy real resources. This is not even the "crazy 90s", this is a natural "walk-field" with waves of herd anger. I hope when the hohlopithecus have nothing to feed their children and parents with, they will nevertheless begin to remember that they are people, and not "Whoa, don't jump!"
This is a stupid herd, and even a rabbit, a Baptist and a boxer, for people in general FROM THE WORD do not consider at all. What kind of loan can one talk about under such conditions.

And what America is plotting is so clear: create chaos and try to push the flock with the Russians. Well, America did not succeed with a base in the Crimea, a missile defense position area, and radioactive waste unloading.

[hawk]

True, Gazprom participated as a third party in the negotiations. Where is the money, Zin?

[A1L9E4K9S]

They stopped uploading to storage, well, ladlets, a woman (oh, sorry, a woman) with a cart is easier. Our people will move faster with gas supplies to China, they will put all their forces into the north and south streams, and let Europe deal with the Ukrainians.

[chastener]

It's time to shut off the valve

[parusnik]

Not good .. apparently a team from the Washington regional committee arrived ..

[darc]

They will steal - he gives a geyropa on his hands, they dislike when they steal! The USA will not give uraine money especially for paying for gas, in a pinch they will shout and in their own pocket they will shift it like they should have been to banks, now the government

[-Patriot-]

Let the tepericha scavenging for firewood ... The price didn’t work for them ... We got used to treating a dairy cow like Russia ... It's time and honor to know! There’s nothing to do for a discount, we don’t rent Sevastopol)))

[kelevra]

No negotiations on the old price! Previously, the discount was in exchange for the placement of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. Then now, let them announce a referendum in the South-East, then you can think about a discount!

[Bosk]

This Ukrainian TV series will outperform any "Santa Barbara" on gas ...

[Monk]

Quote: Lantau

Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

I say, wait for October

[NPogZ]

Guys BEGAN !!!
Soon there will be a riot in Ukraine. But, it seems to me it will begin not in the east ...
Come soon, they will navigate the RADU ... and they will call for the answer of Yaytsenyukh, etc.

[NPogZ]

Well, for what should they give gas at the old price, since they themselves agreed to it? Even Tymoshenko herself signed this price ... Soon, the presidential candidate will be one less when ordinary Ukrainians reach who drew this mud ...

[dimdimich71]

Salo future energy carrier-jokes people will suffer jokes

[Turkir]

Every nation deserves the kind of government it has.

[Leopold]

But what about reverse supplies? Not so Europeans and here on *** whether? Ah, what bad ones.
Or did you see that you have to make a new pipeline for this? Well, with my head, everything is so bad ...

[ALEKS419]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

But such a picture

Did he get Maidan tea?

[smile]

ALEKS419
No, I over-eat Polish jars .... not forgetting about the bimber ... :)))) A hangover is a tough thing .... :)))

[ale-x]

He is still "pins"

[Rohon]

Again Ukraine steals gas ... Where Gazprom is looking ...
How debts will be knocked out, it is not clear ...
A couple of FSB check Gazprom for lice ....

[echomenkov]

Russia does not require anything superfluous - this price was set by an early agreement with the Ukrainian government - then Tymoshenko and Prodan were driven. The discount was for the Black Sea Fleet and under the agreement with Yanukovych. Russia then issued a loan of 15 lard, and a discount on gas was given subject to the condition that Ukraine will be calculated on time. Well, and who is to blame? Europe pays cheaper, because Gazprom’s partners are involved in the development of fields and the construction of pipelines ... something like that ... Ukraine has a way out - to bargain on the supply price and increase deliveries to Europe - and this is clean money ... and so - they saw the branch on which they sit ...

[max702]

In Europe it’s cheaper because there is less ROLLBACK to bureaucrats that they make contracts, and in Ukraine, guess what appetites are in drawing up the contract, plus also the payment for gas transportation, the higher it is, the higher the price for Ukraine.

[ALEKS419]

Quote: NPogZ

Guys BEGAN !!!
Soon there will be a riot in Ukraine. But, it seems to me it will begin not in the east ...
Come soon, they will navigate the RADU ... and they will call for the answer of Yaytsenyukh, etc.

And who will storm? There, after all, all of them are there. .

[individual]

The feeder is over.
Gas shut off.
Let Europe itself decide the safe transit of gas with Ukraine.

[Sergei75]

Well, let the Maidan sing now: "... I so wish that the summer would not end, so that it rushed after me, followed me ...".
But seriously, of course, Ukraine will spray European gas, they have experience, Europe will start to freeze, and we will start saving and giving more, demand payment from Ukraine for stolen gas, that they do not care about the wind, they will send us a forest.
What about the southern and northern streams?

[combat66]

Quote: jjj

We would also raise prices in the trouble that began

Europe will howl! I think that this is an argument of the coming weeks. Now there is a clear problem in the southeast, it is necessary to bend the whole of Western ..... ..... to determine the regions and then Europe and present the bill for concern.

[homosum20]

Small bug, but smelly!

[Ivan Tucha]

Like high Europe is dealing with Russia, why doesn’t it want us to ship gas for free?
Perhaps no longer a ride. Games are no longer childish.

[Ivan Russky]

Quote: jayich

I meant the government of the Russian Federation saves the human resources of Ukraine. I live in the Voronezh region; gasification of the region is about 80%.
By the way, regarding the eviction of defaulters, it’s a good idea, for example, to evict the US (Ukrainian government) to the USA.
You can live in a dugout, but with comfort it’s somehow better.

I live in Primorye and gasification 0%. And not what, we live somehow.

[razved]

First, let the debts be repaid, and only then negotiate the negotiations. Wise guys ... Do not fuck them feed ...

[11111mail.ru]

The total amount of debt of the Ukrainian side to Gazprom thus increased to $ 2,2 billion.

Billed, pay, banderlogs ...

[FunkschNNX]

Well, they would sell us some areas for gas debts.

[Zeus]

Why do they need gas? They are good at using tires for heating)

[awg75]

the only option to build around is there is no other way out. as they stole and did not pay, they will steal and not pay

[Cossacks]

Previously, they did not give 1,7, after raising the price they will not give 2,2. Feel the difference.

[cockroach777]

Coka-cola company has banned the transit of products through Ukraine.
Cause?
They steal gas from bottles!

[tnship2]

It seems that the people at Gazprom are very pragmatic. It seems that you can steal from such people only if they themselves allow it to be done for some far-reaching purpose. Surely all this naf naf gas does not understand that in the end they will be landed very hard on the knees. elbow position.

[staryivoin]

Quote: malware

Enough. Let Europe feed this herd

But no. Let Canada ram gas into Ukraine across the Atlantic. Well, if he can’t ram the gas, then let him ram the wood so that the Ukrainians don’t freeze in the winter.

[mig31]

Soon she will advise people to heat their homes with dung...

[air force captain]

According to experts, if you stop the supply of gas through the ukrotrub, any “reverse gas” will instantly evaporate.... hmmm... then everything is clear how it turns out this “reverse”...

[ochakow703]

Unfortunately, there are not many options; contracts with Geyropa have been signed and must be fulfilled. But with those guys who forget to pay, you need to work strictly on an advance payment basis.

[sv68]

The European rabble, as always, will begin to blame Russia for putting pressure on Ukraine. The USSR built a pipeline, and all sorts of dogs will now begin to blackmail Russia - lower the price or Europe will not supply gas.

[The Art of War]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RbXpnb0I7M

[colonel manuch]

It’s clear that we will supply gas to Europe, obviously there will be “Nord Stream” - the next one in a row, a “stream” through Belarus to the Euroset through Poland, in the end, gasification in our country needs to be continued and completed (pessimists will ask “For what tugriks?”, answer “Don’t discount China,” whether we like it or not, in this situation it becomes strategic partner number 1. Let’s come to an agreement. As for Ukraine, there will be enough gas in storage for 3-4 months. What’s next? Grab the stolen goods and flee the country, otherwise they’ll tear you away the same maidan heads. I assure you, my colleagues will have to pay, if not today, then tomorrow!

[The Art of War]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kCVAmJqGds

[sh1749]

If a Russian citizen does not pay for gas within 3-4 months, he risks being left without gas and waits for a meeting with bailiffs. Maybe then we’ll forgive our defaulters, or punish imported defaulters?

[tolancop]

A lot has been written about gas. From what I have read, I understand that the situation looks like this:
1. According to the agreements, Ukraine is obliged to pump gas into its UGS facilities in the summer and do this at its own expense. The pumped summer gas is destined for Europe in winter, i.e. when peak consumption occurs. After gas is shipped from the UGS facility, Ukraine is reimbursed for the costs of its acquisition and storage. Incl. There is currently transit to Europe, but no winter reserves are being created for Europe.
2. Gazprom cannot turn off the tap. At least for a long time. Otherwise, problems will arise in the production-preparation-transportation_to_border technological chain. In addition, it seems that according to the contracts, Gazprom’s gas shipment point is the western border of Ukraine, and not the eastern. Therefore, the attempt to put pressure on Ukraine through Europe the last time, when the Ukrainians were stealing gas, was not successful: Europe suggested that Russia deal with the crazed transit country on its own and fulfill gas supply contracts. And Gazprom then suffered serious losses, both material and reputational.
The construction of the Northern and Southern Streams was not started out of good fortune.

It seems like that....

[Stinger]

"We still have time to carry out the appropriate downloading"

The time we have is money we don't have. (O. Bender)

[oxotnuk86]

Again we worry about the people. We write, we talk, but who in Ukraine knows about this, one thing is known there: the enemies, the occupiers. Therefore, on April 1st, the debt was not returned. Turn off the gas as promised. They do this to us and no one cares how the people will live in Russia.

[Kidey]

Quote: jayich

I live in the Voronezh region, gasification of the region is about 80%.

I don’t know whether you’re lucky or not, but I live in Siberia and we have 0% gasification (in villages) and 30-25% in cities and we don’t give a fuck about all the wood))

[siberalt]

The situation is terrible. Increased utilities, higher food prices, depreciation of the hryvnia, donations to the National Guard...you can’t list everything. One hope is that not all the tires on the Maidan were burned. In Russia, more than half the country lives without gas and nothing. Somehow they built the first hydroelectric power station, five nuclear power plants. Why cry? Oh, yes, there will be nothing to steal

[gammipapa]

What an appropriate surname, it’s even clear without words to whom it was sold, this Sold.

[alex_valent]

We jumped in ecstasy and forgot about rubles. The IMF sent us right away - Give me some pennies, mo-skali! Give us pennies, we pray to God - cheaper, quickly! We would immediately unravel our doula for a while. Give me some pennies, give me some pennies, give me some pennies, mo-skali! NATO will build us a base and ship ships. In the meantime, give me some pennies! Give me some pennies, moc-kali! If you give it, then we won’t curse Russia for a couple of days. Muscovites, give me some pennies! Don't pull the knots! Give me pennies... Just know: all the same, you are all -! Insatiable katsaps, you have brought us down again! Don’t stretch your paws towards Nenya!.. Give me some pennies, mo-skali!
Source: http://polemika.com.ua/article-143070.html