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Ukraine has stopped pumping Russian gas

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Russian gas pumping stops Ukraine. “We still have time to make the appropriate download,” Yuriy Prodan, who was appointed by the Verkhovna Rada Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, explained at a cabinet meeting.


Actions of Ukraine Yuriy Prodan explained that the Ukrainian side is not satisfied with the level of gas prices set by Gazprom from April 1 of 2014 of the year. Ukraine hopes to negotiate with the Russian side to return the old price, which was in the first quarter of this year.

However, Ukraine has not paid for the March gas either. The debt of Naftogaz Ukrainy increased in March by 550 million dollars. The total debt of the Ukrainian side to Gazprom thus rose to 2,2 billion dollars.
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  1. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn April 9 2014 14: 57
    +40
    Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?
    1. bubalik
      bubalik April 9 2014 14: 59
      +6
      ,,, as I understand it, they completely cut off gas pumping to Europe ?, or not
      1. krechet-1978
        krechet-1978 April 9 2014 15: 11
        +50
        Of course not. They will simply steal the European transit.
        1. bubalik
          bubalik April 9 2014 15: 19
          +29
          krechet-1978 SU  Today, 15: 11 ↑
          Of course not. They will just steal the European transit


          ,,, yeah, Europe will receive less gas and with claims to Russia about the interruption of supplies ,,,
          and scho belay Russia is again to blame!? ,,, sad
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          2. avg
            avg April 9 2014 16: 03
            +17
            Quote: bubalik
            , yeah, Europe will receive less gas and with claims to Russia about the interruption of supplies ,,,
            The answer is classic.
            - Can I have gas in the morning and money in the evening? You can, but money in advance! laughing
            1. _my opinion
              _my opinion April 9 2014 19: 13
              +6
              that’s the answer - Putin: Gazprom will supply gas to Ukraine only in the amount paid for a month in advance

              Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/27073#ixzz2yP09VizU

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          4. siberalt
            siberalt April 9 2014 20: 49
            +1
            In the previous comment it is clearly written that they can only steal European transit. So, no complaints to Russia.
          5. shaman-25rus
            shaman-25rus April 10 2014 10: 26
            0
            a couple of years ago I noticed that gas in cans for lighters, sold in Moscow, was released in the city of Sumy ....
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        3. Coffee_time
          Coffee_time April 9 2014 15: 29
          +52
          And it will look like this
        4. Tersky
          Tersky April 9 2014 15: 36
          +24
          Quote: krechet-1978
          They will simply steal the European transit.

          Here they guessed the hell ... the counter at the beginning, and the counter at the exit, the difference in the account URKAine, + to 2,2 lard green. It’s for them not at the grandmother’s pyataks from under the mattress to rub.
          1. zanoza
            zanoza April 9 2014 15: 51
            +14
            Quote: Tersky
            Well, they guessed the hell ... a counter at the beginning, and a counter at the output ...

            Gas theft won't stop it. Debts are not being paid now, +++++ it is only on paper. International arbitration (?) - "friends of Ukraine" will try to slow it down ...
            That is why the EU is striving to "freeze" the construction of the South Stream pipeline: they are conniving at the lawlessness of "poor, poor" Ukraine, and we will have reason to make claims for the "deliberate", in their opinion, not supplying gas ...
            1. Tersky
              Tersky April 9 2014 16: 22
              +13
              Quote: zanoza
              Theft of gas will not stop it.

              Even as he stops, Geyropa will immediately react, because it is they who will receive less of it for exactly the volume that Urkainskiy "NafigGaz" will try to blur. For this, the metering of the released and the metering of the received gas has been established, if there is a discrepancy, then all claims against the transit country.
              1. APASUS
                APASUS April 9 2014 18: 10
                +4
                Quote: Tersky
                Even as he stops, Geyropa will immediately react, because it is they who will receive less of it for exactly the amount that Urkainskiy "NafigGaz" will try to blur.

                This situation with blackmail is being played out more for Europe, they say it’s time to fork out and give us a loan, but we know how to spend it. But this does not happen.
                And Europe is waiting for steps from Russia to reproach once again with pressure on the young democratic state.
                I read a very interesting article from experts from the United States about the supply of American liquefied shale gas to Europe and Ukraine, as opposed to Russian gas. It was clearly stated that in addition to purely technical problems, Ukraine does not threaten to receive gas from America. The country's credit history is too bad Gazprom !!!
                So, you have to pay under any authority!
                1. Egoza
                  Egoza April 9 2014 20: 23
                  +2
                  Quote: APASUS
                  This blackmail situation is being played out more for Europe

                  sold has already "warned" Europe that the exorbitant price for Ukraine will call into question the supply to Europe, because the price of transit and gas are incomparable ... etc. As far as I remember, gas for Europe was fully pumped in under Yanukovych, but now Ukraine will buy less, and because of this it will not be able to supply gas to Europe. I'm just not sure about the technology, so I don't disseminate how it depends. On the contrary, Ukraine is going to buy Russian gas from Europe in reverse! However, not all the countries that Sold is counting on have agreed! Not enough ourselves! Yes, and it is fraught with international standards.
              2. inkass_98
                inkass_98 April 10 2014 07: 35
                0
                Quote: Tersky
                Still how to stop

                Nothing will stop it. Remember what preceded the signing of the treaty with Yule. Every New Year, according to the established tradition, the Ruin quietly began to pump gas from the pipe, pumping it into its storage facilities. After the time when strange numbers began to appear on the counters in Slovakia, which did not correspond to the numbers of the counters at the entrance, Ruina began stories about the evil M.O.skals who brought the unfortunate nenka, who was striving to Europeia, to such a life. A pan-European howl began, Russia remained to blame, another agreement was solemnly signed, Urkaina received our loan to pay off debts to us. Now it will be the same, only we will have to pay compensation for the "annexation" of Crimea. So I lived like that.
            2. Wellych
              Wellych April 9 2014 17: 22
              +2
              yes, and we will have a reason to make claims for "deliberate", in their opinion, not to supply gas

              Claims are one thing, and a furious freezing electorate on the eve of the elections is another.
              The junta will snatch the last piece from its people, but deliver gas to its sovereigns. Otherwise, even their master will be federalized.
        5. podpolkovnik
          podpolkovnik April 9 2014 16: 07
          +22
          Quote: krechet-1978
          Of course not. They will simply steal the European transit.
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          2. Stalker
            Stalker April 9 2014 19: 08
            +1
            Meet !!!!
      2. prophet
        prophet April 9 2014 15: 20
        +10
        they have an excess of peas. They themselves will produce
        1. Polarfox
          Polarfox April 9 2014 16: 38
          +8
          What a surplus there! They have potatoes and carrots from Holland in stores. For maidan easier than mapotop grow.
          1. infinite silence ...
            infinite silence ... April 9 2014 17: 53
            +4
            yeah ... And on the Maidan current has risen ... radish ...
            On Independence Square in the center of Kiev, Euromaidan activists, who still remain in the square, planted a garden and plan to get pets. A bed has already been planted at one of the tents not far from the subway exit on ul. Khreshchatyk. There, activists planted radishes, lettuce, onions, dill and parsley.


            What is adequate speech about?
      3. Tersky
        Tersky April 9 2014 15: 34
        +5
        Quote: bubalik
        ,,, as I understand it, they completely cut off gas pumping to Europe ?, or not

        To pump does not mean to disconnect, gas is pumped into underground storage facilities for accumulation (these are natural voids in the earth's crust) with subsequent pumping and transportation to the consumer. Gas has gone to Europe as it is ..
        1. Igarr
          Igarr April 9 2014 16: 44
          +8
          Victor, gas batteries are designed to smooth out consumption peaks. Which usually fall in the winter.
          Ahead of summer, you can spit on next winter. For the Yaytsenyukh team it’s quite a brain.
          Therefore, they upload - until they will.
          Either fall apart by the fall. Either other people will hold the answer for gagging.
          ...
          This is not good for us because, God forbid, we will have to increase the pressure in the highways in the fall. Well, we will not really freeze the population of Ukraine.
          And pressure is transport.
          Overloading the trunk with pressure - well, here, inflate the tires of the car twice and drive at increased speed.
          Pressure and gas supply volumes are uniquely related.
          ...
          There is a wild lack of professionalism and cunning of the Ukrainian government.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza April 9 2014 20: 24
            +1
            Quote: Igarr
            Either other people will hold the answer for gagging.

            So they want to sell the pipe to Europe! wink
          2. Tersky
            Tersky April 9 2014 20: 46
            +1
            Quote: Igarr
            Victor, gas batteries are designed to smooth out consumption peaks. Which, as a rule, fall in the winter. Ahead of the summer, you can spit on the coming winter. For the Yaytsenyukh team it’s completely brain

            Igor hi ! As far as I know, the entire cumulative volume of gas should be within 78-85 lard cubic meters. meters, according to Gazprom, 66,5 were downloaded to the storage facilities today, the Ukrainian side blocked about 11,5 meter cubic meters for pumping. gas transportation for debts was stopped ...
      4. Turkir
        Turkir April 9 2014 18: 03
        +6
        Of course not. They just shout: "We will cut off. We have no money. Change the price." The meaning is one - Europe, pay for us. We are your faithful knight dogs.

        Europe has already pumped gas to its full potential. Ukraine will not give money. And we download everything, download .. What for? God knows why ..
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    3. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 9 2014 14: 59
      +8
      Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?
      Russia is a generous soul.
      1. Canep
        Canep April 9 2014 15: 11
        +12
        Quote: Riperbahn
        Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?

        But the price in 500 $ per thousand cubic meters is it not chopped off?
        1. mamont5
          mamont5 April 9 2014 15: 20
          +3
          Quote: Canep
          But the price in 500 $ per thousand cubic meters is it not chopped off?

          Yes, it seems like Europe pays about this or not?
          1. avt
            avt April 9 2014 15: 33
            +15
            Quote: mamont5
            Yes, it seems like Europe pays about this or not?

            There is one interesting trick - Gazprom does not sell gas to an intermediary like Naftogaz, they let it into local grid companies and they sell gas practically to the consumer, which makes the wholesale price lower, so Lithuania Gazprom squeezed out of its grids and got it. The funny thing is that this Prodan is stirring up trouble with gas now, as part of Yulka’s delegation he was pushing through the current gas contract, and now he is shouting, "We are nailed ... do we agree!" laughing
            1. Egoza
              Egoza April 9 2014 20: 29
              +2
              Quote: avt
              This Sold one is stirring up with gas now, as part of Yulka’s delegation he was pushing through the current gas contract, and now he is shouting - "We really ... don't agree!" laughing


              The most interesting thing is that "such a bad Yanukovych" took care of reducing the gas price! A bastard, a scoundrel, a scoundrel, but ... we will use its results.
              Gentlemen Maydanuty! You would have decided if you did not recognize him as president as well as Azarva as prime minister, then all of their signed contracts are invalid! And if you want to use THEIR contracts, then who are you? And about? Or maybe IA! Ah! Ah! (donkeys from the Maidan)
        2. Tersky
          Tersky April 9 2014 16: 23
          +9
          Quote: Canep
          But the price in 500 $ per thousand cubic meters is it not chopped off?

          Sergey, it’s chopped off a freebie ..
        3. Gloria45
          Gloria45 April 9 2014 16: 24
          +14
          And why, in fact, should the price be 268? The contract was signed with Yanukovych,
          where is yanukovych? Where are all the other contracts and their implementation?
          How does one want to enter Paradise on someone else’s hump, and even with a breeze,
          moreover, and taking off all responsibility! Take all this pack
          brainless to convey, like bugs, half the world would breathe a sigh of relief.
          1. SS68SS
            SS68SS April 9 2014 18: 22
            +2
            "This exactly corresponds to the contract, but at the same time, given the difficult situation in which Ukraine is located and the incompleteness of our negotiation process with the European Union, I would ask the government and Gazprom to refrain from using these opportunities up to holding additional consultations, if, of course, our the partners will agree to these consultations. If not, then we will act in accordance with the contract, "Putin said.

            RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20140409/1003202451.html#ixzz2yOnUohnL
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      2. jjj
        jjj April 9 2014 15: 13
        +29
        Meanwhile, in Europe they realized that Obama had inflated them with American gas. And the point is not even that in the next decade it is impossible to physically build the necessary fleet of gas carriers. In America, there are currently only four liquefaction plants in real condition. And they have been contracted for decades to supply liquefied gas to Asia. The average price in Asia today is 700 dollars per thousand cubic meters. Moreover, the Americans sell gas by themselves. And no one is going to sell these volumes in Europe at 400 dollars. Gazprom has no alternative. We would also raise prices in the trouble that began
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch April 9 2014 15: 31
          0
          The price of gas depends on the price of oil.
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 April 9 2014 16: 56
            +12
            Quote: Semyon Semyonich
            The price of gas depends on the price of oil.

            Here the news slipped almost unnoticed, Sechin may possibly head (SPbMTSB) St. Petersburg International Commodity and Raw Materials Exchange! Not so ours decided to set fire to the dollar nevertheless !!! what
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            2. siberalt
              siberalt April 9 2014 20: 54
              0
              And not only ours. Here, even Japan does not mind.
      3. polly
        polly April 9 2014 15: 17
        +11
        ... Ukraine is an eternal freebie! wink They even have such a surname - Freebie. I personally know a person with that surname.
        1. Coffee_time
          Coffee_time April 9 2014 15: 31
          +16
          They have a minister with a surname sold
          1. avt
            avt April 9 2014 18: 52
            +1
            Quote: Coffee_time
            They have a minister with a surname sold

            Moreover, USm has been sold for a long time and really with all its surname and pets. laughing
        2. hawk
          hawk April 9 2014 16: 09
          +4
          This is Julia Shalava.
        3. testerman
          testerman April 9 2014 18: 04
          +1
          smile smile smile In our company, one such works. What type ....... in general, fully realizes his surname)))
    4. jayich
      jayich April 9 2014 15: 07
      +4
      You can’t, didn’t you think about ordinary people? Money is money, and living in the Stone Age is bad. Who has a private house and the stove can be preserved and in high-rise buildings what to cook, where does the electricity come from, etc.
      Our government is beginning to understand that the main natural resource is people who are protecting it.
      1. gorku68
        gorku68 April 9 2014 15: 14
        +4
        Ordinary people consume their own Ukrainian gas. It has long been asserted many times ... Although this makes it no easier for them.
        1. SS68SS
          SS68SS April 9 2014 17: 35
          +2
          Quote: gorku68
          Ordinary people consume their own Ukrainian gas. It has long been asserted many times ... Although this makes it no easier for them.



          What kind of Ukrainian gas? Is it on peas? Hto not pern that m.oskal?
        2. SS68SS
          SS68SS April 9 2014 17: 35
          0
          Quote: gorku68
          Ordinary people consume their own Ukrainian gas. It has long been asserted many times ... Although this makes it no easier for them.



          What kind of Ukrainian gas? Is it on peas? Hto not pern that m.oskal?
          1. Egoza
            Egoza April 9 2014 20: 32
            0
            Quote: SS68SS

            What kind of Ukrainian gas?

            There is gas in Ukraine! Only its reserves are enough only for consumers. Naturally, it is much cheaper. For industry, no! right there, the whole chip was in Julia with her EESU. Expensive gas was supplied to consumers, while cheap gas was sent to "effective owners" and to Europe. Do you feel the margin? BILLIONS !!!
      2. mpa945
        mpa945 April 9 2014 15: 22
        +4
        I read and read, but I didn’t understand: whose government, who protects whom?
        If something in our country is not gasified villages of darkness. Somehow they live ...
        And the evaders are evicted.

        What about you?
        1. jayich
          jayich April 9 2014 16: 10
          +2
          I meant the government of the Russian Federation saves the human resources of Ukraine. I live in the Voronezh region; gasification of the region is about 80%.
          By the way, regarding the eviction of defaulters, it’s a good idea, for example, to evict the US (Ukrainian government) to the USA.
          You can live in a dugout, but with comfort it’s somehow better.
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        3. Demo
          Demo April 9 2014 16: 45
          +2
          and we have conducted gas everywhere, even to those who refused)) but to evict, they don’t evict, they just chop it off and that’s all ... and they don’t complain .... they don’t need gas, they’ve got to cook everything in the oven .. it’s much tastier ....
      3. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 9 2014 15: 31
        +4
        Quote: jayich
        Our government is beginning to understand that the main natural resource is people who are protecting it.

        Sorry, but this mention of the "common people" is already tired, go to the censor, freedom .... the choice is huge and talk to the "common people" I wonder what you say later!
        1. jayich
          jayich April 9 2014 16: 18
          +1
          Yes, you can say that you can have all sorts of nasty things, but it will become easier for anyone. They don’t laugh at sick people, but treat them.
          As some American politician said yes he is mu.dak, but he is our mu.d.k., here is the same with Ukraine.
          That's why I try to express myself as politically as possible as possible, that we lose the information war in Ukraine, and this is a no brainer when a person is told 1000 times a day that he is mentally disabled, he begins to believe in it.
          Fuh, well, something like that.
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      4. Vorkutinets
        Vorkutinets April 9 2014 18: 47
        0
        The most correct statement: People above all! In Russia, for some reason, it does not work. We worry about Ukraine, that is, people !!!! and in the country itself, still half of the gas is not UNDERSTANDABLE.
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    6. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum April 9 2014 15: 21
      +1
      Riperbahn
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?

      In this case, we would be accused of all sins. New sanctions would follow.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 April 9 2014 15: 30
        +8
        Meanwhile, the hryvnia broke a new historical low!

        KIEV, April 9. / ITAR-TASS /. The US dollar against the Ukrainian hryvnia at the beginning of trading on the interbank market grew by 2,5% - to 12,15 hryvnia per dollar (as of 14: 40 Moscow time), setting a new historical maximum.

        Well, the breakdown is already close! I used to think that the Kiev junta only wants power and money, but now I think the task is to eliminate the state of Ukraine!
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 April 9 2014 15: 36
          +5
          Shaw people going? Off topic but! belay

          From 2015 of the year, the test part of the exam will disappear from the exam, it will be replaced by an oral answer.
          I. Livanov Ministry of Education
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          2. siberalt
            siberalt April 9 2014 21: 03
            +1
            There are no tests in the exam in mathematics for a long time. Giving up guessing won't solve the problem. In the states, they are optional. Here we need a refusal about the Bologna School of Education. Enough to release "blanks" for turning like bachelors.
        2. Tersky
          Tersky April 9 2014 15: 40
          +8
          Quote: Sid.74
          The US dollar against the Ukrainian hryvnia at the beginning of trading on the interbank market grew by 2,5% - up to 12,15 hryvnia per dollar (as of 14:40 Moscow time), setting a new historic maximum.

          Yesterday we watched the news, showed how much the cost of medicines in Ukraine had risen, my wife was a pharmacologist by profession, so she was shocked by the prices ...
    7. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 9 2014 15: 37
      +16
      But such a picture

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      2. gladysheff2010
        gladysheff2010 April 9 2014 15: 52
        +11
        So pleased, so pleased! What a mighty country, Poland, "... Ay, Moska, know she is strong ..."
      3. Tersky
        Tersky April 9 2014 15: 53
        +9
        Quote: Sith Lord
        But such a picture

        And he did not think that Russia could give him 3 hours to get him off the face of the earth ...
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 April 9 2014 16: 24
          +15
          "People buy little, we have almost no profit, we are reducing the volume of purchases. There is inflation in the country, but there is no question of raising the salaries of employees. We can pay the current rates only by reducing staff. We are gradually getting rid of" office plankton. " will continue to grow, you will have to fire managers, cashiers, otherwise you will not survive, "said Vladimir Molchanov, a top manager of one of the largest retail chains.

          Well, dear office plankton - stuck? Especially Kiev, which, in general, I am not at all sorry.
          1. Zeus
            Zeus April 9 2014 16: 57
            +10
            A significant part of Russophobian ... comes from office Kiev plankton.
      4. raven75
        raven75 April 9 2014 16: 42
        +4
        Yeah ... Even the United States did not dare to blather something like that. Give Russia 30 days to leave the Crimea ... Strongly said! This crap Poland in FIG is not interesting to anyone, because it is a complete zero. They themselves there, see, understand, and here they are at least trying to somehow remind themselves of themselves, knowing that nothing will happen to them for their blathering. Well, like a healthy adult man on the street, suddenly a five-year-old child will swear. A man spoils and goes on.
      5. Ajax
        Ajax April 9 2014 16: 43
        +8
        Offer him 30 days to self-destruct
      6. Warlock_r
        Warlock_r April 9 2014 16: 46
        +10
        Uh ... And where is Poland? :)
        1. thrower
          thrower April 9 2014 18: 03
          +5
          Wrong you ask a question. It will be right - And Poland, whose is it now, to whom does it belong?
      7. Zeus
        Zeus April 9 2014 16: 55
        +2
        Let the lollipops lollipop icicles)
      8. Lelek
        Lelek April 9 2014 17: 27
        +8
        Poland is a good country, but there are too many Poles. negative
        1. Riperbahn
          Riperbahn April 9 2014 17: 54
          -2
          I’ll give up everything and leave for Poland,
          How m. Jerk!
          There will all be Poles,
          I alone am not a Pole !!!
          (C) Ben Gan
      9. Turkir
        Turkir April 9 2014 18: 08
        +3
        Former Polish Foreign Minister, give advice to his Polish grandmother.
      10. genzik161
        genzik161 April 9 2014 18: 46
        +1
        RUSSIA DUST 2 DAYS so that Poland will be removed from the geyropa, otherwise there will be more desert on the world map
      11. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 April 9 2014 20: 36
        0
        He cracked his head hard on the jamb!
      12. starhina01
        starhina01 April 9 2014 20: 41
        0
        Was he by chance not shouting from a psychiatric hospital? fool
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      14. siberalt
        siberalt April 9 2014 21: 04
        0
        But does he not want to fly to lay a wreath in Katyn? laughing It is possible with the entire Polish government.
      15. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. April 9 2014 21: 44
        0
        In response, Moscow gave 30 minutes.
        Who didn’t hide ...

        But seriously, employees of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, even former ones, are not entitled to irresponsible statements.
        Apparently, in Poland there are not enough educated people if such appearances appear.
    8. bif
      bif April 9 2014 16: 56
      +3
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?

      9 April 2014, 16: 41
      "The head of the Russian government Dmitry Medvedev said on Wednesday that there is every reason to switch to advance payments for gas with Ukraine."
      http://vz.ru/news/2014/4/9/681281.html
      It is high time!!
    9. Skipper2050
      Skipper2050 April 9 2014 17: 42
      +2
      Russia is kind, it cannot abandon its brothers (clowns) to its own devices, ordinary citizens will suffer.
    10. VAF
      VAF April 9 2014 18: 00
      +1
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?


      Because ....... in short ... watch the speech of V.V. Putin ... he already expressed his opinion there, there, in the sense, at the meeting. already broadcast in all news channels.
      I personally understand everything. unfortunately ..... well, everyone .. hears that. what .. wants ... but a reason for fellow there is no .... in my opinion soldier
    11. Zeus
      Zeus April 9 2014 19: 22
      0
      “This exactly corresponds to the contract, but at the same time, given the difficult situation in which Ukraine is located and the incompleteness of our negotiation process with the European Union, I would ask the government and Gazprom to refrain from using these opportunities <...> up to holding additional consultations if, of course, our partners will agree to these consultations. If not, then we will act in accordance with the contract, "Putin said.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20140409/1003202451.html#ixzz2yP2ZMoGe
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt April 9 2014 21: 08
        0
        Polite Putin made a final warning. What to consult about?
    12. Nick
      Nick April 9 2014 20: 53
      0
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Why didn’t we stop supplying them gas?

      And where to supply it? You can’t stop production. It is not economically feasible to close wells and stop production. And it will be very difficult to resume production ...
      1. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn April 9 2014 20: 59
        0
        Is it economically feasible to give it away as a gift to the brother-ridden brothers? Something I do not understand then in the economy :(
  2. Lantau
    Lantau April 9 2014 14: 58
    +4
    Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?
    1. polite people
      polite people April 9 2014 15: 02
      +18
      And they have an order to overwhelm production, as in the Baltic countries.
      There you are paid grandmothers for your land, but are not allowed to work on it,
      just mow the grass.
    2. polite people
      polite people April 9 2014 15: 02
      +2
      And they have an order to overwhelm production, as in the Baltic countries.
      There you are paid grandmothers for your land, but are not allowed to work on it,
      just mow the grass.
    3. Sterlya
      Sterlya April 9 2014 15: 08
      +6
      Quote: Lantau
      Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

      They are thinking of farting in tanks over the summer. There is no money. And there will not be
      1. Lantau
        Lantau April 9 2014 15: 14
        +3
        Quote: Sterlya
        Quote: Lantau
        Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

        They are thinking of farting in tanks over the summer. There is no money. And there will not be

        To do this, you need to eat a lot of peas, and it still needs to be planted and grown. Banderlogs do not want to work and hence the conclusion - there will be no gas wassat
        1. 0255
          0255 April 9 2014 18: 37
          +2
          Quote: Lantau
          Quote: Sterlya
          Quote: Lantau
          Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

          They are thinking of farting in tanks over the summer. There is no money. And there will not be

          To do this, you need to eat a lot of peas, and it still needs to be planted and grown. Banderlogs do not want to work and hence the conclusion - there will be no gas wassat

          they plant beds in Kiev, maybe they will grow peas there laughing
          In general, they are interesting people - they hate and curse m_skal’s, and they want to buy m_skal gas at the old price, which Yanukovych, who escaped from the country, agreed on, which they also hate fool Logic, where are you ???
      2. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 9 2014 15: 42
        +3
        Quote: Sterlya
        Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

        No, but aside from jokes? They live one day? Like butterflies?
        Personally, I see 2 options:
        1) The Americans love Ukraine very much and they will ruin everything, but we don’t have to do anything!
        2) Anyway, the war with Russia, we win, we take everything from them, we lose, they will feed anyway!
        Something like that!
        1. Sterlya
          Sterlya April 9 2014 17: 01
          +1
          Quote: dmitriygorshkov
          No, but aside from jokes? They live one day? Like butterflies?

          Yes. like butterflies. they are already political corpses
    4. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 9 2014 15: 21
      +1
      Quote: Lantau
      Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?

      So they drown it in the winter! And the Natsyks now have to stay in power! Yes and no one will say at all now whether Ukraine will survive before the winter!
      1. 62 RUS
        62 RUS April 9 2014 18: 07
        +4
        Putin: will you drown with wood?
    5. smile
      smile April 9 2014 15: 23
      +15
      Lantau
      Wait, you’ll see how they will stop eating for us .... and drink .... in this case, the need to breathe over time will disappear on its own .... :))) In principle, I do not mind, so that the Nazis themselves cleaned Ukraine from their presence ....

      The Chinese have such a rather sophisticated way of revenge - to hang themselves on the gates of their enemy ... so that bandarlogs prompted such a sensible thought? :))) And we would be happy to provide the gate to them .... :)))
      1. ale-x
        ale-x April 9 2014 16: 39
        +3
        Another famine?
        1. smile
          smile April 9 2014 18: 23
          0
          ale-x
          :))) No, the Holodomor is such a communist beast in the Budennovka, which the evil Mos .. commissars are releasing into the territory on which the autocrats have lived for millennia. The beast wanders around the habitat of ancient ukrov and asks all passers-by for passports - as soon as it turns out that a Ukrainian is caught, its beast is genocide to death. He releases the rest, making him a pen under the visor. :))) Ancient Ukrainians tell us about this, who escaped reprisal due to the fact that when they went out into the street they forgot their passport at home ... they also don’t have a pair in the diary, since they usually forgot the diary at home too .... :))))
          1. i80186
            i80186 April 9 2014 18: 57
            0
            By the way, one of the gains of the October Revolution was the abolition of passports.
  3. pv1005
    pv1005 April 9 2014 14: 58
    +9
    Yes and figs with them. Let them try to buy in the EU on the cheap.
    1. andrewvlg
      andrewvlg April 9 2014 15: 11
      +4
      May they "grab" part of the gas that goes to Europe in transit. They will simply not pay until it comes to a scandal (until the Gay Europeans start freezing). Plus, so far they have "reserves" in storage.
  4. bigELDAK
    bigELDAK April 9 2014 14: 59
    +2
    Well, a debt of 2,2 was back in February.
  5. rumatam
    rumatam April 9 2014 14: 59
    +2
    it was necessary to immediately shut off the taps. They probably made the stock well, they got warm on their street.
    1. Orik
      Orik April 9 2014 15: 02
      +12
      Quote: rumatam
      it was necessary to immediately shut off the taps. They probably made the stock well, they got warm on their street.

      They rocked hard in March at the old price, now they will grimace. But for today there is no problem the Belarusian branch and the joint venture, I think, are able to provide summer gas supplies to the geyropa, and they will resolve these mu.dakas before winter. .
  6. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 April 9 2014 14: 59
    +44
    Kiev began production of gas with the words: “Whoever doesn’t fart, that’s the best of them!”
    1. bubalik
      bubalik April 9 2014 15: 02
      +27
      ,,, let it be so ,,,
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    3. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 April 9 2014 15: 29
      +6
      Somehow like this...


  7. Pharao7766
    Pharao7766 April 9 2014 15: 02
    +7
    Ukraine stopped pumping Russian gas = And began pumping European.
  8. johnsnz
    johnsnz April 9 2014 15: 02
    +3
    "STOPPED DOWNLOADING". Another would be to block the pumping laughing
  9. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 9 2014 15: 02
    +5
    They pretended to be poor, and each of them has a dozen tie-ins into the pipe. Now they will steal for free! yes
  10. Chifka
    Chifka April 9 2014 15: 04
    +4
    "Ukraine has stopped pumping Russian gas. In this regard, the Ukrainian government is negotiating with Russia on the supply of firewood, stoves, stoves, blankets, as well as primus and kerosene stoves at prices lower than European ones ...."
  11. polite people
    polite people April 9 2014 15: 05
    +3
    Winter will come in summer.
  12. forester
    forester April 9 2014 15: 06
    +3
    nothing, wait, nothing - winter is coming soon tongue
  13. VPO
    VPO April 9 2014 15: 06
    +26
    Damn, turn off these "Brothers" at last. Enough. Let Europe feed this herd. I'm tired of paying for the neighbors. And they will continue to mumble to turn off Eropa. The Chinese are already tired of knocking on the door.
  14. rugor
    rugor April 9 2014 15: 06
    +4
    Do not forget that selling gas is also a business, a very good business for us. And it’s bad when the consumer has financial problems, bad for everyone. Who is to blame, the next question.

    What to do now, it’s not clear, it’s just not possible to block the pipe, Europe is also sitting on it, and it is physically difficult to stop the gas extraction, especially in the existing anarchy
    1. Aleksandr12
      Aleksandr12 April 9 2014 15: 38
      +2
      They are like masochists, running into the fact that they are ... released. They will steal gas, Russia will block it, Europe will rebel (like what are you doing there, we don’t get gas). Naturally, no one will speak with gas thieves, troops will be sent in to ensure uninterrupted gas supplies to Europe. Who will send the troops is another question (most likely Russia, because this is a costly affair, no one will take on additional costs, and America will not be allowed). Small clashes with peacekeepers - chaos in Ukraine (even worse than in Syria). Europe doesn’t give a damn, the main gas comes according to the plan + bonus as a civil war between Russians and Ukrainians (this is for them for the soul). Only the west wins, the rest are in full priest ...
    2. prophet
      prophet April 9 2014 15: 40
      +1
      It was necessary to build long ways around
    3. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 9 2014 15: 51
      +5
      Quote: rugor
      and it’s physically difficult to stop gas extraction, especially in the existing anarchy

      Yes, there was already such a topic. At the entrance to Ukraine there are counters, and at the exit too. Western observers should be allowed to the counters "at the entrance", and according to THESE indications, let them pay! And with your own Uyob.i.sch.n. ... let them figure it out by themselves! It's simple, no fancy!
  15. alex-cn
    alex-cn April 9 2014 15: 06
    +5
    Europe will figure out theft quickly, and even the "revolutionaries" will not forgive the freezing M there
  16. vst6
    vst6 April 9 2014 15: 13
    +3
    Probably no one does not go to the store without money, much less buy if the price does not suit.
  17. Voinnet
    Voinnet April 9 2014 15: 14
    +1
    I just want to say a phrase from one of the series: "Winter is coming"
  18. Sochi
    Sochi April 9 2014 15: 15
    +23
    The future of Ukraine - we will not buy fuel and gas:
  19. Rubmolot
    Rubmolot April 9 2014 15: 15
    +5
    Only ostriches in EU zoos expect the amazing effectiveness of these sanctions against Russia. bully
  20. Sergg
    Sergg April 9 2014 15: 16
    +2
    Ukraine has stopped pumping Russian gas


    The question is when the United States will allocate money to Ukraine to pay for gas already purchased.
    Or America is plotting something dirty again.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 9 2014 15: 24
      +1
      Quote: Sergg
      The question is when the United States will allocate money to Ukraine to pay for gas already purchased.
      Or America is plotting something dirty again.

      What is the money from America? What are you? America promised Ukraine 1,1 billion dollars. This will not be enough for them not only to pay off gas for us (the debt is already more than 2 billion), but also for other urgent payments. And they are still going to raise the army with this money.
    2. Bkmz
      Bkmz April 9 2014 15: 26
      0
      [quote = Sergg] [quote]
      Or America is plotting something dirty again. [/ quote]

      And when was it different?
    3. AK-74-1
      AK-74-1 April 9 2014 15: 28
      +3
      Yes, the current government will not receive real money.
      So far there is no raw material sponsor (5 months ago - Russia and only for gas), which will provide food and energy resources for the inhabitants of the territory "Ukraine". Since May 1, government employees will be cut, pensions will be frozen, and other joys in the form of cutting off gas supplies Who do you think will give the real loot, for which you can buy real resources. This is not even the "crazy 90s", this is a natural "walk-field" with waves of herd anger. I hope when the hohlopithecus have nothing to feed their children and parents with, they will nevertheless begin to remember that they are people, and not "Whoa, don't jump!"
      This is a stupid herd, and even a rabbit, a Baptist and a boxer, for people in general FROM THE WORD do not consider at all. What kind of loan can one talk about under such conditions.

      And what America is plotting is so clear: create chaos and try to push the flock with the Russians. Well, America did not succeed with a base in the Crimea, a missile defense position area, and radioactive waste unloading.
    4. hawk
      hawk April 9 2014 16: 17
      +1
      True, Gazprom participated as a third party in the negotiations. Where is the money, Zin?
  21. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 9 2014 15: 21
    +1
    They stopped uploading to storage, well, ladlets, a woman (oh, sorry, a woman) with a cart is easier. Our people will move faster with gas supplies to China, they will put all their forces into the north and south streams, and let Europe deal with the Ukrainians.
  22. chastener
    chastener April 9 2014 15: 21
    +1
    It's time to shut off the valve fellow
  23. parusnik
    parusnik April 9 2014 15: 22
    +1
    Not good .. apparently a team from the Washington regional committee arrived ..
  24. Darc
    Darc April 9 2014 15: 23
    +2
    They will steal - he gives a geyropa on his hands, they dislike when they steal! The USA will not give uraine money especially for paying for gas, in a pinch they will shout and in their own pocket they will shift it like they should have been to banks, now the government
  25. -Patriot-
    -Patriot- April 9 2014 15: 25
    +2
    Let the tepericha scavenging for firewood ... The price didn’t work for them ... We got used to treating a dairy cow like Russia ... It's time and honor to know! There’s nothing to do for a discount, we don’t rent Sevastopol)))
  26. kelevra
    kelevra April 9 2014 15: 26
    +3
    No negotiations on the old price! Previously, the discount was in exchange for the placement of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. Then now, let them announce a referendum in the South-East, then you can think about a discount!
  27. Bosk
    Bosk April 9 2014 15: 28
    +2
    This Ukrainian TV series will outperform any "Santa Barbara" on gas ...
  28. Monk
    Monk April 9 2014 15: 28
    0
    Quote: Lantau
    Like children, honestly. And what will you drown? Do you need production?


    I say, wait for October laughing
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  30. NPogZ
    NPogZ April 9 2014 15: 29
    +1
    Guys BEGAN !!!
    Soon there will be a riot in Ukraine. But, it seems to me it will begin not in the east ...
    Come soon, they will navigate the RADU ... and they will call for the answer of Yaytsenyukh, etc.
  31. NPogZ
    NPogZ April 9 2014 15: 34
    +2
    Well, for what should they give gas at the old price, since they themselves agreed to it? Even Tymoshenko herself signed this price ... Soon, the presidential candidate will be one less when ordinary Ukrainians reach who drew this mud ...
  32. dimdimich71
    dimdimich71 April 9 2014 15: 40
    +1
    Salo future energy carrier-jokes people will suffer jokes
    1. Turkir
      Turkir April 9 2014 18: 11
      +1
      Every nation deserves the kind of government it has.
  33. Leopold
    Leopold April 9 2014 15: 42
    +2
    But what about reverse supplies? Not so Europeans and here on *** whether? Ah, what bad ones.
    Or did you see that you have to make a new pipeline for this? Well, with my head, everything is so bad ...
  34. ALEKS419
    ALEKS419 April 9 2014 15: 50
    +4
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    But such a picture


    Did he get Maidan tea?
    1. smile
      smile April 9 2014 16: 38
      0
      ALEKS419
      No, I over-eat Polish jars .... not forgetting about the bimber ... :)))) A hangover is a tough thing .... :)))
    2. ale-x
      ale-x April 9 2014 16: 40
      +3
      He is still "pins"
  35. Rohon
    Rohon April 9 2014 15: 53
    +1
    Again Ukraine steals gas ... Where Gazprom is looking ...
    How debts will be knocked out, it is not clear ...
    A couple of FSB check Gazprom for lice ....
  36. ehomenkov
    ehomenkov April 9 2014 15: 54
    +3
    Russia does not require anything superfluous - this price was set by an early agreement with the Ukrainian government - then Tymoshenko and Prodan were driven. The discount was for the Black Sea Fleet and under the agreement with Yanukovych. Russia then issued a loan of 15 lard, and a discount on gas was given subject to the condition that Ukraine will be calculated on time. Well, and who is to blame? Europe pays cheaper, because Gazprom’s partners are involved in the development of fields and the construction of pipelines ... something like that ... Ukraine has a way out - to bargain on the supply price and increase deliveries to Europe - and this is clean money ... and so - they saw the branch on which they sit ...
    1. max702
      max702 April 9 2014 17: 35
      +1
      In Europe it’s cheaper because there is less ROLLBACK to bureaucrats that they make contracts, and in Ukraine, guess what appetites are in drawing up the contract, plus also the payment for gas transportation, the higher it is, the higher the price for Ukraine.
  37. ALEKS419
    ALEKS419 April 9 2014 16: 05
    0
    Quote: NPogZ
    Guys BEGAN !!!
    Soon there will be a riot in Ukraine. But, it seems to me it will begin not in the east ...
    Come soon, they will navigate the RADU ... and they will call for the answer of Yaytsenyukh, etc.

    And who will storm? There, after all, all of them are there. repeat .
  38. individual
    individual April 9 2014 16: 06
    +3
    The feeder is over.
    Gas shut off.
    Let Europe itself decide the safe transit of gas with Ukraine.
  39. Sergei75
    Sergei75 April 9 2014 16: 06
    +1
    Well, let the Maidan sing now: "... I so wish that the summer would not end, so that it rushed after me, followed me ...".
    But seriously, of course, Ukraine will spray European gas, they have experience, Europe will start to freeze, and we will start saving and giving more, demand payment from Ukraine for stolen gas, that they do not care about the wind, they will send us a forest.
    What about the southern and northern streams?
  40. combat66
    combat66 April 9 2014 16: 22
    0
    Quote: jjj
    We would also raise prices in the trouble that began

    Europe will howl! I think that this is an argument of the coming weeks. Now there is a clear problem in the southeast, it is necessary to bend the whole of Western ..... ..... to determine the regions and then Europe and present the bill for concern.
  41. homosum20
    homosum20 April 9 2014 16: 25
    0
    Small bug, but smelly!
  42. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha April 9 2014 16: 34
    +2
    Like high Europe is dealing with Russia, why doesn’t it want us to ship gas for free?
    Perhaps no longer a ride. Games are no longer childish.
  43. Ivan Russky
    Ivan Russky April 9 2014 16: 39
    +1
    Quote: jayich
    I meant the government of the Russian Federation saves the human resources of Ukraine. I live in the Voronezh region; gasification of the region is about 80%.
    By the way, regarding the eviction of defaulters, it’s a good idea, for example, to evict the US (Ukrainian government) to the USA.
    You can live in a dugout, but with comfort it’s somehow better.

    I live in Primorye and gasification 0%. And not what, we live somehow.
  44. razved
    razved April 9 2014 16: 54
    +3
    First, let the debts be repaid, and only then negotiate the negotiations. Wise guys ... Do not fuck them feed ...
  45. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru April 9 2014 16: 58
    0
    The total amount of debt of the Ukrainian side to Gazprom thus increased to $ 2,2 billion.

    Billed, pay, banderlogs ...
  46. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX April 9 2014 17: 12
    +3
    Well, they would sell us some areas for gas debts.
  47. Zeus
    Zeus April 9 2014 17: 15
    +2
    Why do they need gas? They are good at using tires for heating)
  48. awg75
    awg75 April 9 2014 17: 27
    +2
    the only option to build around is there is no other way out. as they stole and did not pay, they will steal and not pay
  49. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 9 2014 17: 31
    +2
    Previously, they did not give 1,7, after raising the price they will not give 2,2. Feel the difference.
  50. tarakan777
    tarakan777 April 9 2014 17: 32
    0
    Coka-cola company has banned the transit of products through Ukraine.
    Cause?
    They steal gas from bottles!