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What gifts does Ukraine accept, and does the revolution have an end?

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Observing the situation in Ukraine, the course of the so-called Ukrainian revolution, one involuntarily comes to the conclusion that the completion of the revolutionary upheavals in this country is simply not included in the plans of those who associate themselves with the new government. These people are well aware that as soon as the revolutionary machine stops, as soon as the shroud over Ukraine (or what remains of Ukraine by that moment) disappears, people will see what is left in their wallets. And when a man with a bad look glances at his thin wallet, at the mouse, about to hang himself in his fridge, then write to him gone. There are two options: either to the authorities themselves to rally the revolutionary machine, accusing the Kremlin agents of all sins, without thinking, and demanding that the maydaniating continue to "complete and unchallenged victory" (albeit over common sense), or to experience the real cudgel of the people anger is not a revolution from above and from abroad, but from below - from the internal, let's say, reserves.


What gifts does Ukraine accept, and does the revolution have an end?


In the Ukrainian case, today there are two scenarios working at once. The western and central parts of Ukraine are trying to put pressure on the revolutionary gas, blaming all the Ukrainian misfortunes and misfortunes on the “mosquitoes”, the southern and south-eastern regions are determined to move the club of popular anger in response. Kosa found a stone that, while playing into the hands of the gentlemen, who came to show themselves in the power of Ukraine, only with the aim of quickly snatching a favorite piece for themselves, bigger and more sweet.

What will change if soon Ukraine chooses a president? What will change is that Ukraine will have two presidents at once (or even three, if Turchinov suddenly decides that he will relinquish the powers of All Ukraine too early) ... There have already been three tours in Ukraine, so why cannot there be three presidents ...

As for the rest, no epochal progress, especially movement in terms of calming down the people and improving the economic situation, will definitely not bring elections.

But nobody speaks about this today in Ukraine from those rushing for power. If any programs are presented, in the overwhelming majority of cases they are reduced to advance calls for help: from the EU, the US, the IMF and NATO together. Loans, donations and everything like that ... Foreign countries will help us! Wow thesis for a presidential candidate ...

In this regard, the thesis of some candidates that the EU, the USA and “all progressive humanity” are already helping Ukraine, and that, when I’m going to become president, is even more touching, the help will be just comprehensive - as they say, you won’t get rid of help ... and you won’t get rid of it. Take at least one of the current examples. Last Friday, the international rating agency Moody's already “dumped” its “comprehensive assistance” to Ukraine. It was expressed in the fact that Moody's once again lowered Ukraine’s credit rating (Eurobond rating) to Caa3 with a negative outlook. Information publishes Israeli "9 TV Channel".

At the same time, the agency announced that they had to take such a step for the reason that Ukraine has social and political tensions affecting the Ukrainian economy, adding as reasons that Ukraine is unable to service the debts accumulated during the purchase Russian gas (today this debt is about 2,2 billion dollars).

Adds “optimism” and the World Bank, claiming that the economy of Ukraine in 2014 year will fall by at least 3%. The UniCredit expert group states that the fall of the Ukrainian economy in 2014 will be at least 6%.
After such statements by representatives of the World Bank, another rating agency, Standard & Poor's, downgraded Ukraine's short-term credit rating to C.

It would seem that Ukraine should pay attention to whims of international rating agencies. So the fact of the matter is that you want it or not, but Kiev will eventually have to pay attention to these data. The Caa3 rating (according to the Moody's classification) is the penultimate step, and the C grade (according to the Standard & Poor's scale) is the last bar before the default.

In fact, this means that for the creditors of Ukraine these are the most successful ratings on the Square, since now Kiev will be able to lend at almost the highest interest possible today. If a year ago, international financial institutions credited Ukraine with a maximum of 6% per annum (the government of Mykola Azarov agreed on this), then, based on the credit ratings of Kiev, today this percentage may increase at least 2,5 times. That is, the minimum loan rate for Ukraine in 15-16% per annum - these are the main achievements of the Maidan "revolutionaries".

But after all, after the recalculation of interest rates on loans for the Ukrainian economy, the world players were inspired, apparently thinking that Ukraine should certainly be given a loan at such hefty interest for the greatest own benefit. He will pay, great, will not pay, they will arrange a new revolution, take over the remaining assets, production facilities, resources ...

There is a direct analogy with Russia 90-x, when they lent us quite willingly, but at the same time forcing us to sign documents with the most incredible obligations (and privatization ones as well). On what rails then went privatization in Russia, and what is “tightening the belt” according to the requirements of the IMF - many people remember well today.

By the way, about Russia. When the government of Azarov agreed with the Russian Cabinet on the provision of a loan from the Russian Federation (the purchase of Ukrainian debt), the agreements indicated the percentage corridor 4-5% per annum.

In fact, Moscow gave money to Kiev under 4-5% (they managed to send 3 billion dollars from 15 billion). Now Kiev is “negotiating” about receiving a loan from the IMF and the EU under the above-mentioned 15-16%. + 12% per annum - and this is still the minimum!

Awesome benefits! Awesome economic sense of Kiev self-proclaimed authorities! Victory of common sense!

It turns out that these same self-proclaimed authorities of Ukraine are completely economic losers? Well, I do not! Unfortunately, the Ukrainian people remain in the losers today (exactly the same way as the Russian people were in them in the “dashing” 90's), but the political and economic “elites” are banal, sorry, thieves and nothing more. By signing under the receipt for Ukraine of a loan at phenomenal interest rates according to international financial norms, the new “government” hangs the heaviest burden not at all on itself, but on ordinary Ukrainians, in addition to being able to use the allocated funds at its own discretion.

Why sign? Yes, precisely then, just to get money from the West, to get to the billions themselves. But what about the enslaving conditions? Well, they are enslaving for the people, and not for a narrow group of gentlemen who have come to power ...

Yanukovych was cursed because he stole so many percent of the funds allocated for Ukraine, but even if so, then today the new “authorities” are determined to do exactly the same thing ...

What kind of stabilization of the situation in Ukraine can we talk about when the new “authorities” need to with all their strength keep the smoke screen from dispersing it in the air so that, after holding themselves in power themselves, they need to properly fill their pockets and turn over time into economic experts out of power (in Russia have their own analogues). In the near future, Kiev will not stabilize by definition: the main enemy is already designated - naturally, Russia - and this somehow gives the ukrovlasts the opportunity to manipulate the people. The barricades are not dismantled on Independence, the barricades are being built in the information space with the sole purpose of boiling up the people, but the truth will not appear before it very soon.
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  1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    +64
    I am sure that the turns of History are repeated, the Fifth Column rules in Ukraine temporarily.

    Just look at the parallels:
    - Pastor Turchinov (US protege) - Trotsky (Leiba Davidovich Bronstein, US protege, his statement about hunger: "When I force Russian mothers to eat their children, then you can tell me - we are starving." He built a monument to Judas in the city of Kozlov) ;
    - Tymoshenko's idiot (protege of the USA) - Zinoviev (Herschel Aronovich Apfelbaum, protege of the USA);
    - Klitschko moron (EU protégé) - Radek (Karol Movshevich Sobelzon, Geyropa protégé):
    - the defective fool Fahrion - Yaroslavsky (Miney Izrailevich Gubelman, Academician of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR);
    - Yarosh is his analogue Yakov Davydovich Rapoport, one of the organizers of the terror in the Voronezh province. In Voronezh, the tortured were planted naked in barrels, studded with nails, and rolled. A wreath of barbed wire was put on the heads of the priests;
    - policeman Avakov (traitor of Ukraine) - Tukhachevsky (became famous only for ONE feat - suppression of the peasant uprising in Tambov);
    - Valentine Nalyvaychenko's killer (head of the SBU) - Yagoda (Enoch Gershenovich Yehuda, head of the GPU).


    By the way, let the last two think about their fate, they will be faster than the previous ones.
    Stalin struggled with this scum 15 years. I would like to believe that in Ukraine things will go MUCH FASTER.
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 10 2014 08: 27
      +20
      in Kiev, the people are already breaking up, and wants to see a happy future for which he fought.
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 April 10 2014 08: 32
        +5
        Adds “optimism” and the World Bank, claiming that the economy of Ukraine in 2014 year will fall by at least 3%. The UniCredit expert group states that the fall of the Ukrainian economy in 2014 will be at least 6%.
        After such statements by representatives of the World Bank, another rating agency, Standard & Poor's, downgraded Ukraine's short-term credit rating to C.
        not 3% and not 6%, but at least 15% and this is stated by reputable economists.
        1. platitsyn70
          platitsyn70 April 10 2014 08: 38
          +13
          What kind of stabilization of the situation in Ukraine can we talk
          zvizdets Ukraine in a word, it’s just right for them to read books about menhausen to read how he pulled himself from the swamp by the hair.
          1. milan
            milan April 10 2014 09: 04
            +20
            In the understanding of the US and the EU, stabilization is, as M. Thatcher once said, "There are enough 10 million inhabitants on the territory of Ukraine." Considering that there are still 40 million of us, then stabilization will have to wait a little
            1. kotyara
              kotyara April 10 2014 11: 38
              +7
              She was not talking about Ukraine but about the USSR!
              1. CALL.
                CALL. April 10 2014 13: 04
                +6
                Quote: cat
                She was not talking about Ukraine but about the USSR!

                And the figure was fifteen million
                1. ele1285
                  ele1285 April 10 2014 13: 10
                  +19
                  Tolik, categorically agree, do not you find similarities in the pictures?
                  1. podpolkovnik
                    podpolkovnik April 10 2014 14: 44
                    +18
                    Quote: ele1285
                    Tolik, categorically agree, do not you find similarities in the pictures?


                    And so - better!
                    1. ele1285
                      ele1285 April 10 2014 15: 48
                      +1
                      Taken from there
                    2. Nick
                      Nick April 12 2014 09: 21
                      0
                      From the beginning I didn’t even understand the meaning of the picture ... Well done lieutenant colonel, you’ll soon become a general ...
            2. GDP
              GDP April 10 2014 13: 50
              +8
              There is a direct analogy with Russia 90-x, when they lent us quite willingly, but at the same time forcing us to sign documents with the most incredible obligations (and privatization ones as well). On what rails then went privatization in Russia, and what is “tightening the belt” according to the requirements of the IMF - many people remember well today.

              Poor Ukrainians - oh dashing 90. Then we swallowed the air of freedom!
              As I remember now - frantic inflation, chaos, theft, misery salaries, a complete mess everywhere - in education in the army, in medicine, in politics, in general everywhere ...

              I compare it with the current situation in the country, which is also far from ideal, but compared with what was then in the era of freedom - this is the same difference as between:
              where to get money for car repairs?
              and where to get money to eat ?!
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        2. major071
          major071 April 10 2014 10: 19
          +21
          US economic assistance is already rushing!
          1. Mister X
            Mister X April 10 2014 11: 55
            +23
            -Where is Ukraine?
            - Now or in general?

            - Little Johnny, to the board. Show on the map of Crimea. Where is he located?
            - In Russia, Maryivanna.
            - Wrong. Sit down Putin, 2!
            - Well, we'll see ...

            1. xbhxbr-777
              xbhxbr-777 April 10 2014 13: 04
              +3
              I’m not sure anymore that she is at all!
              1. daemon
                daemon April 11 2014 11: 10
                +1
                And I'm not sure that she is esche Ukraine ...
            2. Evgen_Vasilich
              Evgen_Vasilich April 10 2014 14: 59
              +2
              Little Johnny studied in the USSR, and, apparently, he studied perfectly, and such jokes, sorry colleague, this is shkololo button accordion))))
              1. Mister X
                Mister X April 10 2014 16: 29
                +5
                Quote: Evgen_Vasilich
                Vovochka studied in the USSR

                Folk art, however.
                Anecdote on a hot topic, so to speak ...
          2. ele1285
            ele1285 April 10 2014 13: 20
            +3
            Quote: major071
            US economic assistance is already rushing!

            Here is its main supplier, a regiment for the whole of Ukraine will give.
            1. penguin
              penguin April 12 2014 09: 07
              0
              respected hero star why compromise?
          3. 62 RUS
            62 RUS April 12 2014 15: 05
            +1
            And from the European Union. laughing
        3. mongoose
          mongoose April 10 2014 12: 17
          0
          yes they are optimists, 30-50% guaranteed
        4. hommer
          hommer April 10 2014 14: 57
          +10
          Quote: platitsyn70
          not 3% and not 6%, but at least 15% and this is stated by reputable economists.


          Already been in, but not a sin to repeat

          We jumped in ecstasy, forgot about rubles.
          IMF sent us right away Give pennies, m.
          Give pennies pray to God - cheaper, hurry up!
          And then we ask anyone, even if he is a Jew.
          Our muzzle we would immediately for a moment unravel.
          Give pennies, give pennies, give pennies, m.
          We will build a NATO base and drive ships.
          In the meantime, give pennies! Give pennies, m.
          Kohl give, we will not swear Russia a couple of days.
          Belarusians, white people do not give you an abyss.
          M. scalpers, give pennies! Do not pull on the knots!
          Give pennies ... Just know: you are all the same - kozly!
          Insatiable katsatsy, again you brought us!
          Do not pull your paws to Nenko! ..
          Give pennies, m.
          1. Mister X
            Mister X April 10 2014 17: 58
            +5
            Quote: hommer
            Do not pull your paws to Nenko! ..
            Give pennies, m.

            I will answer verses with verses:

            Song of Tymoshenko and Barak.

            - Hello, hello, Barack, what news?
            I haven’t been at home for a long time. I'm on treatment at a trip. Well, how are we doing?

            “All is well, beautiful marquise.” Things are going and life is easy.
            Not a single sad surprise, except for a trifle.
            So, nonsense, empty business, here Merkel flew to Kiev.
            And the rest, a beautiful marquise, all is well, all is well!

            - Hello, hello, Barack, what’s new !?
            Why did Merkel skid for us? After all, Ukraine didn’t die! How did this all happen?

            “All is well, dear Ataman.” They brought you dough.
            You have the right to demand revenge, since the bunks have completely slipped away.
            After all, Merkel is an empty thing — Russia has completely overcome.
            And the rest, a beautiful marquise, all is well, all is well!

            - Hello, hello, Barack, the mind is muddied, And there is no coconut to sniff,
            Tell me the whole truth at once, do they really want to return Crimea?

            “Everything is fine, beautiful marquise, and we are doing well.”
            But fate, as you see, from a whim still presented a surprise.
            Although you shouted a loud cry, Yanukovych fled to Moscow ... What a pity I missed him - not for the snuff ... oh, sorry !!!

            We came to the Maidan in a crowd:
            The European Union beckoned in the distance, and the Germans brought fat, but here they again led us apart:
            while the discussions were ongoing - Crimea stole, and with it all the ships!
            And although we have imposed sanctions, we have entertained the whole world, to sit aground again, so you got divorced !!!
            And the rest, Miss Tymoshenko, Everything is fine, everything is fine ...
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 10 2014 08: 56
        +13
        Quote: platitsyn70
        in Kiev, people already divide,

        The most surprising thing is that even on Censor.net there are adequate comments about the approaching ass when Sait spreads a new hryvnia rate wassat
        1. Turkir
          Turkir April 12 2014 10: 34
          0
          These prices can be called "sobering prices".
      3. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... April 10 2014 11: 56
        +12
        A bitter hangover ...)))
        Complete and unconditional victory over common sense.
        What they fought for ... eat don’t get stuck ...
      4. CALL.
        CALL. April 10 2014 13: 12
        +6
        Awesome benefits! Awesome economic sense of Kiev self-proclaimed authorities! Victory of common sense!

        Last week, the leader of the Ukrainian freedom “Freedom”, who is also a candidate for Ukrainian presidency, Oleg Tyagnibok suddenly realized that Russian food products do not meet the standards adopted in Ukraine. After the "scientific" research of the main Ukrainian free man, the State Consumer Inspectorate of Ukraine decided to ban the import into the country and sale there of Russian goods of the following nature: confectionery from the factories "Red October", "Rot Front", "Babaevsky", a number of canned fish and dairy products.
        Ukraine exports to the Russian cheese market in the amount of $ 315 million (2013 data), confectionery products for about the same amount (a little more than $ 316 million). For comparison. Russia sends to the Ukrainian market its confectionery products in the amount of 117-118 million dollars, cheese - in the amount of less than 19 million
        $ 315 million + $ 316 million = $ 631 million
        $ 118 million + $ 19 million = $ 127 million
        Net profit of the Russian manufacturer = $ 504 million. Half a billion !!!
        Continue in the same spirit of Comrade Tyagnibokov.
        1. perfect100
          perfect100 April 10 2014 13: 57
          +4
          Actually, the factories "Red October", "Rot Front" and "Babaevsky" are part of the American concern Kraft Foods ...
          1. Cristall
            Cristall April 10 2014 19: 39
            +6
            And they still buy and buy. My company sells them in Odessa and the region. There are separate refusals from "enemy products", but these are isolated cases.
            Pan Tyagnibokiv let him in the Russian gasoline will find a discrepancy and will not go to RISS .. on the enemy’s fuel ...
          2. rolik
            rolik April 10 2014 19: 40
            +2
            Quote: perfect100
            Actually, the factories "Red October", "Rot Front" and "Babaevsky" are part of the American concern Kraft Foods ...

            The main thing is that taxes are paid here)))))))
      5. ele1285
        ele1285 April 10 2014 13: 50
        +5
        The opinion of the Suomans
        Against the backdrop of the financial crisis unfolding in Europe, Russia's northern neighbor is trying to find its own way of escape from economic collapse. And the found option of salvation may surprise many. So, recently in Finland the idea of ​​close integration with the Russian Federation is becoming more and more popular - up to joining it.

        “Could Finland become Russian Hong Kong?” This is the name of the article in the authoritative journal Suomen Kuvalehti, written by an influential Finnish public figure, businessman and lawyer Hannu Krogerus. He himself answers this question positively: “This is what the current economic situation throughout the world requires, from Asia to America. Finland should seize the opportunity and gain the same international status with respect to Russia as Hong Kong has with respect to mainland China. ”
        1. 787nkx
          787nkx April 10 2014 14: 23
          +2
          I think in the near future we will witness the formation of new state entities.
          Something like a European association ,,, - EU.
          Perhaps PMR-RF, Abkhazia-RF, Finland-RF-Eastern Ukraine.
        2. Turkir
          Turkir April 12 2014 10: 37
          0
          Dear Finns, want to earn extra money on our difficulties?
          Finland should take a chance
          - the last chance for an overripe girl?
      6. Turkir
        Turkir April 11 2014 16: 30
        0
        What is this discontent expressed?
    2. seller trucks
      seller trucks April 10 2014 09: 04
      +8
      Adds “optimism” and the World Bank, claiming that the economy of Ukraine in 2014 year will fall by at least 3%. The UniCredit expert group states that the fall of the Ukrainian economy in 2014 will be at least 6%.


      I want to note that they are optimists,

      In fact, Moscow gave money to Kiev under 4-5% (they managed to send 3 billion dollars from 15 billion). Now Kiev is “negotiating” about receiving a loan from the IMF and the EU under the above-mentioned 15-16%. + 12% per annum - and this is still the minimum!



      "In the morning I smear a sandwich, immediately the thought - how are the people?" Filatov

      It's all garbage that the country flies to hell, the main thing is what? that in Europe and America they will say proud
    3. mirag21x
      mirag21x April 10 2014 09: 05
      +5
      Anologii successful, aptly ...! negative And if they get cocked, it will be fair!
    4. bubalik
      bubalik April 10 2014 09: 26
      +7

      Salavat MES RU  Today, 08: 19


      I am sure that the turns of History are repeated


      ,,, nothing is new ,,, request
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    6. thrower
      thrower April 10 2014 10: 03
      .
      Sorry, but far-fetched.

      Trotsky - and a protege of the United States ... This is not even funny.
      Zinoviev - Have you heard about such an organization as the Comintern?
      Tukhachevsky is the winner of Kolchak. A talented military commander, though at the same time a conspirator (for which he was shot)
      1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
        +10
        Sorry, but far-fetched

        View the documentary cycle Russia XX century. There are clearly and popularly explained xy from xy.
        1. American banker Jacob Schiff, financed Japan for the war with Russia. Schiff then financed the "Russian" revolution "of 1905 in Russia, and ensured a comfortable life for Trotsky, just as Rothschild in London provided the life of Karl Marx in his day.
        Do you think Trotsky just lived and lived for himself in the states as an ordinary layman and did not work with the local security services there?
        2. The Comintern was to be financed at the expense of the Communist Parties that were part of it. But that money wasn't there. Immediately after the first congress, the Comintern members turned to the RCP (b) for help. Lenin, Zinoviev, Trotsky considered it an honor to meet them. Who financed these citizens I think it is not necessary to explain.
        3. I don’t say that Tukhachevsky is a bad commander, I point out that he brutally suppressed the Tambov uprising, redeemed Tambov’s blood, which Avakov is now trying to pull from the south-east of Ukraine.
        1. thrower
          thrower April 10 2014 11: 01
          -8
          Who were the USA at the beginning of the 20 century? The country that defeated Spain. I am not saying that in the revolution in Russia there is no foreign trace. It's just that this trace is English, the Germans were also involved.
          And do not confuse those revolutionaries of the 1917 of the year and the Kiev junta. Those were ready to burn the whole world, for the sake of the victory of the revolution, they took money from everyone who gave it (though they did not give it back). And the junta - about nothing but to themselves they do not think.
          1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
            +7
            Quote: thrower
            And do not confuse those revolutionaries of the year 1917 and Kiev junta


            And I was not going to confuse them. I say that the turns of History are repeated, only the turns. In 1917, a large revolution swept Russia, in 2013, a small revolution swept Ukraine. And I propose analogies, and here they are smaller.
            Our revolutionaries wanted to burn the whole world. These same parasites want to burn only Russians, and only those Russians that can be reached in their own country. And if for the same purpose they try to pop in Russia, they will get in the face so that the ass will unfold in the form of a rose.
            1. thrower
              thrower April 10 2014 13: 03
              0
              I say that the turns of History are repeated, only the turns


              So in this I did not argue with you))
              It’s just the scale of the personalities, well, there is no way to correlate the current juntas with revolutionaries, of which each was the brightest star.
              Trotsky, so he generally stopped in a word the divisions running from the enemy.
              1. 225chay
                225chay April 10 2014 22: 01
                +3
                Quote: thrower
                Trotsky, so he generally stopped in a word the divisions running from the enemy.


                Your scum Trotsky and Tukhochevsky most finished. Executioners and villains shed seas of blood of Russian people ... The most finished scum can destroy from guns and poison the peasants, their wives and children with the elderly ...
                1. thrower
                  thrower April 10 2014 23: 04
                  -1
                  I did not say that I treat them well, but the revolutionaries had a GOAL, the junta did not have it.
                  And before Stalin came to power I.V. the revolutionaries did see Russia as brushwood to set the world revolution on fire.
              2. Turkir
                Turkir April 12 2014 10: 46
                +1
                It is naive.
                Trotsky rode in an armored train with a personal guard, dressed in all leather.
                He spoke to them "fiery" words, and they stopped them with machine guns. They walked knee-deep in blood.
                And who was running and who was being shot? Not trained and not smelling gunpowder, forcibly called up, Russian peasants ...
                Bright star .. this Trotsky. We still can’t forget, and don’t.
                Let the new Trotsky remember ... about alpenstock.
          2. Setrac
            Setrac April 10 2014 17: 40
            +4
            Quote: thrower
            And do not confuse those revolutionaries of 1917 and the Kiev junta.

            Believe me, those were no better. Latvian arrows are the same Nazis as Ukrainian Bandera.
            1. solaco
              solaco April 11 2014 14: 58
              +3
              Quote: Setrac
              Believe me, those were no better. Latvian arrows are the same Nazis as Ukrainian Bandera.

              That's for sure. Just at the time when events in Ukraine developed, I read about the civil war of 19-20 of the last century, which at that time took place in Tavria and Crimea.
              They shed a lot of people's blood there, led by their Countrywoman.
              The parallels were nowhere fatter ... That time with the present ... sad
          3. dustycat
            dustycat April 11 2014 19: 28
            0
            Quote: thrower
            Who were the USA at the beginning of the 20th century?

            Boxer riot suppressors in China.
            Winners of Nicargua.
            The winners of Argentina.
            The winners of Venezuela.
            The winners of Mexico.
            And the authors of a whole bunch of small coups in Africa, Latin America, Asia.
            They are also participants in setting Japan on Russia, and they are also skimmers from this - 80% of the income of Japanese concessions until 1927 went to American banks.
          4. Natrix
            Natrix April 12 2014 12: 58
            0
            I agree that you should not confuse. But the matter is not in scope. The difference already lies in the names - they were revolutionaries, and these were the junta.
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      2. Fin
        Fin April 10 2014 10: 42
        +10
        Quote: thrower
        Trotsky - and a protege of the United States ... This is not even funny.

        Trotsky’s mother’s brother, Abram Zhivotovsky, was a major banker in Russia and at the same time a companion to the American bankers Warburg, and through them was connected with Jacob Schiff, the sponsor and one of the organizers of the Russian revolutions.
        Quote: thrower
        Tukhachevsky is the winner of Kolchak. A talented military commander, though at the same time a conspirator (for which he was shot)

        All his "talent" manifested itself in the campaign against Poland and the suppression of the WMD riot in the Tambov province.
      3. vezunchik
        vezunchik April 10 2014 10: 48
        +9
        Tukhachevsky is the winner of Kolchak. A talented warlord, though at the same time a conspirator (for which he was shot)
        What is he famous for ?? A terrible defeat from the Poles ??? Polish tyrants ??? Conspiracy against Stalin ???
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 April 10 2014 13: 18
          +2
          Quote: vezunchik
          Tukhachevsky is the winner of Kolchak. A talented warlord, though at the same time a conspirator (for which he was shot)
          What is he famous for ?? A terrible defeat from the Poles ??? Polish tyrants ??? Conspiracy against Stalin ???

          According to the memoirs of his contemporaries, he decently consumed vodka. In this case, he is really a genius
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      5. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
        0
        Sorry, Thrower, I did not minus you. Do not think badly. In a reasonable dialogue is not minus
        1. Colonel
          Colonel April 10 2014 12: 17
          +2
          Thrower. I minus for not knowing the story.
          Trotsky - and a protege of the United States ... This is not even funny.

          Not an argument.
          1. oleko51081
            oleko51081 April 10 2014 12: 37
            +3
            Trotsky's henchman of Great Britain and the USA first took up the post of the Foreign Ministry and declassified secret negotiations between Russia and the Entente, thereby leaving Russia with several million corpses during World War I and ruining the country. Instead of Russia, the USA took the role of winner with indemnification from the defeated countries.
            1. solaco
              solaco April 11 2014 15: 05
              0
              Quote: oleko51081
              left Russia with several million corpses during the 1st World War and the ruin of the country. Instead of Russia, the USA took the role of the winner with indemnity from the defeated countries.

              And all these victories are ready to crush for themselves! Well, how did they win the Great Patriotic (World War II). They liberated Europe from fascism and communism, but we did not stand by! fool
          2. thrower
            thrower April 10 2014 13: 08
            0
            You will not understand a simple thing - they were not proteges of any circles, except revolutionary. They did not take money for their lives and children to study in London, they could at least take the devils to put everything into the cause of the revolution.
            About ignorance of history - in the first place I know, in the second place there is Google, though this is a garbage dump, but if you dig around, you will find what you are looking for.
            1. Colonel
              Colonel April 11 2014 15: 02
              0
              Quote: thrower
              some circles other than revolutionary

              And who do you mean by these revolutionary circles - the RSDLP, the Bund, or, after all, something else?
      6. inkass_98
        inkass_98 April 10 2014 12: 04
        +3
        Quote: thrower
        Talented warlord

        Well, yes, the peak of his talent was the internment of his army in 1920 in Poland.
        Subsequently, of course, he learned, gained knowledge and taught himself, invented his own military doctrine (albeit half erroneous), but in the Civil War he was still a lieutenant of the tsarist army.
        1. thrower
          thrower April 10 2014 13: 13
          +2
          As for the lieutenant of the tsarist army - 5 military orders and presentation to the sixth, for six months of hostilities.
          Victories in Siberia and the defeat of Kolchak also had a place to be.

          Well, he did not invent the military theory "with little blood on someone else's territory", it is also called a blitzkrieg.

          He deserves more respect for the construction of the army - his theory of preparing civilian enterprises for mobilization for the production of military products.
          1. tolancop
            tolancop April 10 2014 15: 48
            +3
            Nobody denies personal courage.
            As for the colonel talent and military theorist - doubts are very big.
            Each employee has a "ceiling" to which he is useful. But moving it higher will bring nothing but trouble. There are many examples.
            Apparently P. Grachev was a good division commander, but clearly did not correspond to the post of defense minister.
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            2. siberalt
              siberalt April 10 2014 23: 07
              +1
              If he were brave, he would not have left the Russian army in Poland for the slaughter. Khrushchev pulled Tukhachevsky out of nothingness like a bugbear for de-Stalinization.
      7. Morgan
        Morgan April 10 2014 12: 42
        +4
        How many successful military operations or fundamental works on military science are listed by Tukhachevsky? Against an EQUAL adversary? Links plizzzzz .... Then I believe the propaganda about the military genius of this punisher
        1. thrower
          thrower April 10 2014 13: 14
          -1
          I did not say that he was a genius, I said that he was a talented man who wholeheartedly loved the army.
          1. thrower
            thrower April 10 2014 13: 40
            +1
            memories of one of Tukhachevsky's subordinates.
            “The commander very often and unexpectedly appeared at the location of a regiment. Before going to the headquarters, he examined the equipment, looked into the stables, spoke with the soldiers, then appeared in regimental exercises and, asking to continue them, sat down and carefully watched. From there he went to the kitchen, to the warehouses. He forbade reporting of his arrival. When the commander heard the news of the commander’s visit, Tukhachevsky had time to inspect everything and draw his conclusions. Finding large omissions in the unit, Tukhachevsky was leaving, not seeing her commander. The commander called to the commander. Tukhachevsky did not bake him, but spoke very briefly:
            - Your regiment is in an ugly state. If you do not bring him in full order within three weeks, you will go to command the "regiment" ...
            To object and make excuses in such cases was useless. Tukhachevsky rose, pulled his belt and threw dryly:
            - It's all. You are free!"
          2. Morgan
            Morgan April 10 2014 14: 04
            +1
            In any case, skills are more important. And if you really love something, becoming genius is possible. (Compare with Comrade Rokossovsky.) So he did not like the army. Was he a conspirator? HZ doesn’t matter, it’s just zero, not even square.
      8. ele1285
        ele1285 April 10 2014 13: 14
        0
        Quote: thrower
        Tukhachevsky Talented military leader, though the conspirator (for which he was shot)

        Stunned how talented, Tolya Serdyukov is the same talent. "Miracle on the Vistula" remember, the talent showed itself to the full.
        1. thrower
          thrower April 10 2014 13: 32
          +1
          In addition to Tukhachevsky, there was also such an army commander as Yegorov, each of the commanders also had his own military council.
          And he was the commander in chief - S. S. Kamenev.
          It is impossible to dump all the blame on Tukhachevsky alone; when analyzing the Polish campaign, even the Bolsheviks laid on him "Part of the blame."

          Tukhachevsky, supported by his Revolutionary Military Council (I.S. Unshlikht, A.P. Rozengolts and I.T. Smilga), proposes to take Warsaw by the forces of only the Western Front, and not two fronts, as was initially assumed. Comfront does not want to share fame. He manages to convince the Politburo, and the South-Western Front receives an order to go not to Brest, but to Lviv.
          And now they are silent about what. First of all, that, besides the Politburo, there was also the Commander-in-Chief Kamenev, the former Tsarist Colonel, who authorized the proposal of Tukhachevsky. Do you think this issue was decided by Lenin and Trotsky, who trusted the "brilliant strategist"?
          They are also silent that on July 22 the same proposal came from the South-Western Front (commander A. I. Egorov, members of the Military Council I. V. Stalin, R. I. Berzin, X. G. Rakovsky) - to attack Lviv. They also did not want to be "on the catch." And Kamenev, with the consent of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Republic, issued a fatal order - since they all so want this, to begin operations of fronts in diverging directions.
      9. Turkir
        Turkir April 11 2014 16: 46
        +2
        Trotsky, who was in America, received money from bankers, went to the UK and was arrested there. The British, not naive people, as we were very surprised, where did the poor Russian Jew get $ 10.000 not declared (for today's money, probably half a million green). After the correspondence (!) Of the British special services with the United States, Trotsky is released in peace, i.e. with money. Well, it's just a Christmas tale. I would be so in prison and would be rotted. but there is no Trotsky.
        Yes, they are very familiar with the Comintern - diamonds go there, money come here, Stalin understood this.
        Tukhachevsky in Poland is also a very familiar operation, except for Tambov. of course. Speaking of the red commanders: they launched the Poles into the computer program of all the famous commanders, in order to finally find out who is stronger in all? The result was unexpected .. Frunze.
      10. dustycat
        dustycat April 11 2014 19: 22
        +1
        Quote: thrower
        Trotsky - and a protege of the United States ... This is not even funny.


        Then explain why he parked his ass in one of the states of the SGA?
        And they built a small fortress there.
    7. 225chay
      225chay April 10 2014 21: 42
      +2
      Quote: Salavat EMERCOM
      analogue of Yakov Davydovich Rapoport, one of the organizers of terror in the Voronezh province. In Voronezh, the tortured were planted naked in barrels studded with nails and rolled. Priests put a wreath of barbed wire on their heads;


      These are ritual executions ... which means murders! Who was this Rapoport, a security officer probably?
    8. Gambit0
      Gambit0 April 10 2014 22: 17
      0
      Strange analogies
    9. vjhbc
      vjhbc April 11 2014 00: 16
      +1
      ATTENTION all creative people work in the fantasy style DETECTED new hero more epic, legendary and fabulous THAN Dwarves Elves and Orcs together meet this VELIKIYyy UKRrr clothes he only red trousers hair it is a mustache braided in a braid obvivayuschie bald head from the weapon only Pitchfork is such an outstanding hero and did not dream of Tolkien there is already information that Hollywood wants to continue the series about Middle-earth with the alleged name GREAT UKRRR and LOST LAND
    10. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold April 11 2014 19: 50
      0
      Unfortunately, there is nothing more permanent than "temporary". For 23 years of independence, Ukrainians have learned only to rampage on the Maidans, to exchange some degenerates for others, to sell themselves to those who pay more and look for those to blame for all their troubles anywhere except Ukraine. You can add the division of "common" Russian resources and the search for all kinds of "debtors" for all the troubles of Ukraine over the past 40000 years, well, they are also masters of writing fairy tales, but they seem to have forgotten how to work for the good of their Motherland. So it's not about the rulers there, but the people who bring them to power for promises of a free paradise on earth.
  2. Siberian19
    Siberian19 April 10 2014 08: 24
    +57
    truth in verses about Russia and Ukraine!
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz April 10 2014 08: 47
      +7
      Hammer, man! Crimeans Respect!
    2. milan
      milan April 10 2014 09: 13
      +20
      Please do not compare Southeastern Ukraine with central and Western. Since we are residents of the Southeastern regions for most of Central and Western Ukraine, we are second-class citizens and what they considered the inhabitants of Crimea at one time.
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz April 10 2014 09: 28
        +22
        Vadim! hi You are inattentive to the site. We do not compare you with other regions. We simply think of you as Russians. And we are, for everyone else, "third grade". Although they themselves do not understand how we treat varieties, we Already the whole geyropa and the states have understood that Russia is a ship cook, and they are minced meat for cutlets. Everything will be hockey.
      2. oleko51081
        oleko51081 April 10 2014 12: 40
        +2
        It’s just that the authorities of Not Falling Down turned their arrows on you, after the reunification of Crimea with Russia and the blackmail of the Russian Federation by the Russian-speaking people in Nenko ..
      3. ele1285
        ele1285 April 10 2014 22: 21
        0
        Quote: milan
        for most of Central and Western Ukraine, we are second-class citizens

        You’re lying, you’re the highest grade even for banderlogs, they envy. So go proudly, you can poop on zapadentsev.
    3. Grbear
      Grbear April 10 2014 09: 14
      +4
      Aerobatics. good Both tough and diplomatically.
    4. mirag21x
      mirag21x April 10 2014 09: 19
      +5
      But people are not bad, they are simply deceived and fooled ... Sorry for them. If possible, save them ...
      1. podpolkovnik
        podpolkovnik April 10 2014 10: 02
        +1
        Quote: mirag21x
        But people are not bad, they are simply deceived and fooled ... Sorry for them. If possible, save them ...


        Don't you think that all this has already happened? ...
        1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
          +2
          Quote: podpolkovnik
          Don't you think that all this has already happened? ...


          So I say that certain parallels can be traced. Such a feeling arises that Ukraine is a country of parallels of those historical events that badly responded to Russia. Always someone's (everyone probably understands whose) hand is trying to push the Russians and Ukrainians together. Oh, how I want a couple of Topolies to drop on this hand so that the chips fly ...
      2. andron1983
        andron1983 April 10 2014 10: 11
        .
        Well, that's why they turned off the brazen Russian television in Ukraine.
        1. thrower
          thrower April 10 2014 10: 17
          +5
          Well done )))
          Burn us napalm further)))
          Do you need candy?
          Or Poroshenko treat?
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        4. Anper
          Anper April 10 2014 10: 23
          +2
          andron1983
          Negative rating
          Add to blacklist
          Full name: Andrey
          Group: Visitors
          Date of visit: April 10 2014 10: 16
          Registration Date: April 30 2013 10: 33

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          Rating: - -1948 +
          Something incomprehensible - he writes quite competently in Russian - is this a mutation now - Russian trolls with a Bandera hue? Or did he hatch in Russia somewhere like that?
          1. bubalik
            bubalik April 10 2014 10: 32
            +1
            Anper SU  Today, 10: 23 ↑


            ,,, not this moderators muddied laughing , it is necessary to bring the severity of the heuristic discussion to the forum repeat and then some generals and marshals around laughing
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          3. bvi1965
            bvi1965 April 10 2014 11: 08
            +4
            Something incomprehensible - he writes quite competently in Russian - is it such a mutation now - Russian trolls with a Bandera hue? Or did he hatch in Russia somewhere like this? [/ Quote]

            What is not clear. A negative rating is, in a sense, popularity. Just an original way to achieve it.
            1. Turkir
              Turkir April 11 2014 16: 50
              0
              Just an original way to achieve it.

              Pretty perverted way, and what is original in it?
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        6. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
          +1
          Quote: andron1983
          Well, that's why they turned off Russian TV in Ukraine


          Uncle, you are not from Lviv or Ivano-Frankivsk?
          Well, look brehlivoe zapadenskoe.
        7. kotyara
          kotyara April 10 2014 11: 48
          +1
          Compared to Ukrainian or Western television, ours is simply an example of truthfulness, although they also cannot be trusted 100%
        8. The point
          The point April 10 2014 11: 52
          0
          Quote: andron1983
          Well, that's why they turned off the brazen Russian television in Ukraine.

          hope this is sarcasm? am
        9. inkass_98
          inkass_98 April 10 2014 12: 08
          0
          Quote: andron1983
          Well, that's why they turned off the brazen Russian television in Ukraine.

          But what, do you only have Svidomo television working in Vyborg or are you saving Finnish?
        10. Colonel
          Colonel April 10 2014 12: 20
          0
          Quote: andron1983
          disconnected the rash Russian television

          Yeah, and included the true Ukrainian. wassat
        11. Igor 3456
          Igor 3456 April 10 2014 12: 55
          0
          I understand that if a person whose place of residence is Vyborg writes "in Ukraine" instead of "in Ukraine", this leads to certain thoughts
      3. sled beach
        sled beach April 10 2014 11: 49
        0
        Ib your naivety !!! Who betrayed once betrayed again and then again.
      4. pvn53
        pvn53 April 10 2014 14: 38
        0
        Salvation is only in their hands, we can only help them, and only when they themselves want. And the decision on salvation is only theirs. Otherwise, we will be guilty of all conceivable and unimaginable sins.
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    5. serioga
      serioga April 10 2014 10: 24
      +6
      in Ukraine, western Ukraine has an ass, and Maidan is a hemorrhoids that does not allow all Slavs to live in peace
    6. The point
      The point April 11 2014 14: 11
      +1
      The guy is just GOOD!
      And here is how Yuri Loza reacted:
      The poem of Yuri Loza

      You probably weren’t raised by your mother,
      And not with sisters, and not with brothers,
      You a fascist, black swastika
      At birth, they punished.

      Since childhood, they have bogged your heads
      Pro-fascist "super-heroes"
      So you are burning Molotov cocktails,
      And do not teach the Truth of history ...

      You think you are brave
      Not slaves bound in chains
      But where is your arable land arable?
      You have sold your land for a long time!

      You and your ancestors stupidly betrayed,
      What a brave perished for you
      Feelings of Honor are unknown to you,
      Here and jump, like rabid ...

      Youngsters ... Faceless ... Cattle ...
      Your black faces are blinded,
      You were born in an annoying time,
      Out of you grief warriors ...

      You don't like Ukraine at all!
      And do not appreciate its shrines!
      If your father's bitch chop!
      If the homeland swastika mark!

      You will never be brothers!
      To us, the Nazis are outbred enemies,
      And do not dare yourself, traitors,
      Call Ukrainians blood.


      and here’s the link, if anyone was interested: http://vm.ru/news/2014/04/09/yurij-loza-chitat-etu-merzost-molcha-ya-ne-smog-243
      497.html
  3. svetlomor
    svetlomor April 10 2014 08: 26
    +3
    getting the opportunity to use the allocated funds at their discretion.
    And why else do the revolution, not feed the people ?! It remains only to choose Rabinovich’s president and Ukraine’s place in world history is guaranteed.
    1. Arhj
      Arhj April 10 2014 09: 01
      +4
      The list of "people" has long been formed, and the bulk of the inhabitants of Ukraine have nothing to do with this "people". The current "government" behaves like a temporary worker and it is clear that it does not hope to hold out for long. As for the allocated loans, as the unforgettable J. Perkins described in "Confessions of an Economic Murderer," this money will not reach Ukraine, but will be sent straight to Western banks and companies under the guise of payment for some contracts.
      1. milan
        milan April 10 2014 09: 15
        +1
        This money will go away as payment of debts of Ukraine to the same Western banks.
    2. olegglin
      olegglin April 10 2014 10: 48
      +3
      Soon, soon .... here, here ... the hryvnia will be on the dollar ... per kilogram
    3. inkass_98
      inkass_98 April 10 2014 12: 12
      +2
      Quote: svetlomor
      It remains only for President Rabinovich

      After that, declare war on Israel and in 15 minutes surrender, until the Knesset laughing
      AND EVERYTHING! All problems will be solved automatically, and Israel will grow territorially and receive missile technology, and dill will immediately find itself in civilization laughing .
      Joke?
  4. Name
    Name April 10 2014 08: 34
    +5
    STABILIZATION OF UKRAINE ... who will help .. USA (EU) or RUSSIA. Let's put a sign. I am for RUSSIA anyone against .... repeat
    1. Ilja 22
      Ilja 22 April 10 2014 08: 48
      +2
      The answer is obvious, but a matter of time, and while this happens, how many innocent victims and destruction will be, no one knows ..
    2. milan
      milan April 10 2014 09: 01
      +3
      The people of the Southeast therefore rise, because they do not want anything from the USA and the EU, except for these substances to leave us alone, or at least the Southeast. We don’t need anything from them. We residents of the South-East are well aware that we should not expect anything good from their friendly embrace. We are also aware and well aware that our territory is occupied by the United States and the EU that are not friendly to us. I’ll say more if they crush us here. Russia will be next
      1. thrower
        thrower April 10 2014 10: 11
        +1
        Listen, why don’t you bring Yanukovych to your house for a day? Let him declare the Kiev junta not legitimate, appoint people’s governors in the regions, and then let him fall back.
      2. kotyara
        kotyara April 10 2014 11: 50
        0
        And no one doubts this for a long time!
    3. maximus235
      maximus235 April 10 2014 09: 36
      +2
      I bet 1000 RUB. to Russia. yes
    4. doctor
      doctor April 12 2014 11: 56
      0
      And I am for RUSSIA.
  5. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz April 10 2014 08: 44
    +1
    Quote: platitsyn70
    in Kiev, the people are already breaking up, and wants to see a happy future for which he fought.

    What ran into it.
    1. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 10 2014 08: 52
      +1
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Quote: platitsyn70
      in Kiev, the people are already breaking up, and wants to see a happy future for which he fought.

      What ran into it.

      To see a happy future in Ukraine is easy, let them look at the Crimea!
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz April 10 2014 09: 59
        +1
        Sergey! Don’t exaggerate. It’s not as fun as it seems to us.
        1. serega.fedotov
          serega.fedotov April 10 2014 12: 05
          0
          Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
          Sergey! Don’t exaggerate. It’s not as fun as it seems to us.

          So I said FUTURE it is definitely in the Crimea! And Ukraine is unknown!
  6. sv68
    sv68 April 10 2014 08: 48
    +1
    and what tires on the Maidan are no longer needed? fool a country of frightened idiots — would you go to work and not jerk off your fate? the biggest show in the world — publicly show your stupidity — sign the impotence and blame everything on the neighbor — the results of the revolution. Every smart Russian proposal ukroina answers with idiotic tricks
  7. milan
    milan April 10 2014 08: 48
    +4
    The only one who is sorry is the simple people, whose number will noticeably decrease in this entire revolutionary leapfrog.
  8. Yuri Sev Caucasus
    Yuri Sev Caucasus April 10 2014 08: 53
    +4
    A thief on a thief and a thief drives. That's what happens today in the highest illegitimate organs of power.
    1. andron1983
      andron1983 April 10 2014 10: 16
      -8
      So this is the system of government in Russia. That's where we stand.
      1. mpa945
        mpa945 April 10 2014 10: 33
        0
        Is this an occasion to destroy your country? For cookies? You are not even Judas. You are just imbeciles!
      2. The point
        The point April 10 2014 12: 20
        0
        Quote: andron1983
        So this is the system of government in Russia. That's where we stand.

        Yes, you are a banal troll, my friend!
        Request to the moderators: for ... shame, sorry, ban the citizen ..., damn it, even a citizen THIS can not be called.
  9. Turdaun
    Turdaun April 10 2014 09: 02
    +8
    The war .... she s.su. A devil servant drags her to our borders, his flag is star-striped. BUT WE WILL WIN!
  10. mackonya
    mackonya April 10 2014 09: 28
    +3
    Of course, all this is sad, but one third Maidan is happy, I think it won’t be (2004, 2014)
  11. igorra
    igorra April 10 2014 09: 30
    +2
    This quasel of Yanukovych then feed something for free. Let him convene a press conference and announce that all financial documents signed by the illegitimate authorities are not valid and Ukraine will not recognize these debts in the future. Now no one gives money, then after that the number of people wishing to sponsor the junta will tend to zero.
  12. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 April 10 2014 09: 32
    +9
    All Ukrainian "revolutions" took place in the same way,
    - domestic massacre among themselves and with an external enemy,
    - voluntary accession to Russia, part of Ukraine,
    - exorbitant demands on Russians and betrayal of the "elite",
    - war in alliance with its external enemies against Russia,
    - devastation and again joining Russia,
    - respite, economic recovery with the help of Russia and again the betrayal of the "elite"
    - .....etc.
  13. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic April 10 2014 09: 32
    +22
    Yesterday I went out to the store and went nuts, the prices soared above the roof, for example, bread grew by 1.2 gr, meat kg by 11 gr, and even fat on 7 gr is complete, absolute writing !!!!! they will bring us.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 10 2014 09: 48
      +4
      Quote: Oleg prophetic
      Yesterday I went out to the store and went nuts, the prices soared above the roof, for example, bread grew by 1.2 gr, meat kg by 11 gr, and even fat on 7 gr is complete, absolute writing !!!!! they will bring us.


      Looks like it's still flowers ...
    2. sergey72
      sergey72 April 10 2014 11: 20
      +1
      Quote: Oleg the Prophetic
      Yesterday I went out to the store and went nuts, the prices soared above the roof, for example, bread grew by 1.2 gr, meat kg by 11 gr, and even fat on 7 gr is complete, absolute writing !!!!! they will bring us.

      I'm sorry .... Just like our 90s ...
    3. a-cola
      a-cola April 10 2014 17: 32
      +1
      And we have a pancake that week my favorite beer at 40r. more expensive and without any upheavals, in general, prices are constantly growing, so we are with you!)
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    5. Turkir
      Turkir April 11 2014 16: 53
      0
      This is because you are already in Europe.
  14. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 10 2014 09: 44
    +1
    This was clear from the very beginning, all this, if I may say so, revolution was conceived in favor of the top ten and a half admitted to the NATO feeding trough. The rest - nevermind with poppy seeds, at best. At worst, they will be forced to pay for the pleasure of participating in the revolution. The most annoying thing is that ordinary Ukrainians will pay for everything.
  15. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    +9
    The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) on Wednesday voted for the immediate withdrawal of Russian troops from the Crimea

    Are they completely foolishly touched there? Withdraw Russian troops from the territory of the Russian Federation?
    Let even then the USA withdraws its troops from the territory of the USA
    1. serioga
      serioga April 10 2014 10: 33
      +2
      Let the geyropa establish his own rules and advise how to live. It is not Russia that has occupied the Crimea, but the people do not want to live with these newborn bydloxaxamib so they went home
  16. Little Muck
    Little Muck April 10 2014 09: 56
    0
    Quote: Oleg the Prophetic
    they will bring us.

    It is planned that by the time it is "brought" that out of the 42 million population of Ukraine 10 million will not remain (according to the already mentioned strategy).
    Turn on the brain.
  17. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 April 10 2014 10: 03
    +6
    Yesterday, VV said, it seems to me, that Europe and America are promising economic assistance, but so far only damned Russians are giving it.
  18. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 10 2014 10: 10
    0
    Quote: platitsyn70
    What kind of stabilization of the situation in Ukraine can we talk
    zvizdets Ukraine in a word, it’s just right for them to read books about menhausen to read how he pulled himself from the swamp by the hair.

    And it can only be pulled by RUSSIA, they understand this in the southeast, and the west and center will sink into oblivion!
  19. Sergey7311
    Sergey7311 April 10 2014 10: 26
    +2
    I wonder how the former Prime Minister Azarov relates to what is happening in Ukraine? Or he doesn’t think of anything like this, sitting in prosperous Austria. Was washed off in time, and okay ...
    1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      0
      Quote: Sergey7311
      Time flushed, and okay ...


      This is it. Nas..t him from a high bell tower to Ukraine. He has his own business, his own concerns: family, money, business ...
  20. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS April 10 2014 11: 15
    0
    UKRAINE wake up, all THIS IS NOT A DREAM! Yes it is - FULL Well, Ah!
  21. luka095
    luka095 April 10 2014 11: 34
    +1
    Article "plus". A clear position.
  22. imugn
    imugn April 10 2014 12: 07
    +1
    Europe once again "helped" Ukraine - PACE blamed Russia for all the troubles of Ukraine
  23. Morgan
    Morgan April 10 2014 12: 57
    +1
    The National Socialist Party already exists. SS (Sich Riflemen) in stock. it remains to organize the stalag Babi Yar, for example, and build autobahns. and for the position of Rosenberg, this clever and delicate young lady is Farion. Find the Fuhrer and create the Millennial Ukra !!! and hide the fat laughing
  24. xbhxbr-777
    xbhxbr-777 April 10 2014 13: 05
    0
    They are in the Donbass, the same Russian, and they talk like bears, if only it would not be too late!
  25. vezunchik
    vezunchik April 10 2014 13: 06
    +1
    Inexplicable military appeared in Donetsk. On April 9, a bus with armed men without identification marks was blocked near the regional assembly point. Under pressure from the public, they were forced to leave the bus and return to the territory of the recruiting station. They did not answer any questions. AKSU assault rifles turned away from the camera lenses. Deputy the chief of the recruiting station said that this was army special forces from Kirovograd, who had come to guard the airport. When asked to bring one soldier and show his ID, there was a constant evasion of the question. It is difficult to say who these military men actually are, but we can say for sure that these are not draftees, but older people. They are dressed in different shapes. It is unlikely that the military unit would be dressed in anything.
  26. vezunchik
    vezunchik April 10 2014 13: 10
    0
    Armed jeeps of Ukrainian airborne: paratroopers went along the Lebanese path
    The armed forces of Ukraine retain a large number of Soviet-made UAZ-3151 vehicles, which are a further development of the UAZ-469. UAZs were exported to seven dozen countries, where they were turned into combat vehicles. Thus, at the very beginning of the 80s, the militants of the Lebanese Shiite group "Amal" were among the first to turn the Ulyanovsk jeeps transferred by the Syrians into carriers of large-caliber DShK machine guns and heavy anti-tank grenade launchers SPG-9.

    During the hostilities against Israel in Lebanon, the Syrians themselves began to equip the 469th anti-tank systems of Soviet and French production.
    In the Soviet Army, these vehicles were used as commander, liaison, and chemical reconnaissance vehicles, etc. In Afghanistan, large-caliber machine guns began to be installed on UAZs on a limited scale.
    The collapse of the USSR was marked by the emergence of numerous armed conflicts in which they began to mount massively at UAZs DShK or NSV. In the Russian power structures, armed all-terrain vehicles from Ulyanovsk appeared during the conflict in Chechnya, as a rule, in units of the Ministry of the Interior.
    The experience of Lebanon, Afghanistan and Chechnya was also recalled by Ukrainian paratroopers, who began to use old "goats" as platforms for all the same DShK or AGS-17 automatic grenade launchers. True, according to military experts, the technology and tactics used in low-intensity conflicts can lead to large losses in a collision with a modern regular army.
  27. Vrvarius
    Vrvarius April 10 2014 13: 50
    +3
    for me it looks like this. in Ukraine, politicians do not already know how to seize power. They swore love to the people? swore. Russian ban / allow promised? promised. tried to recognize the Holodomor as genocide? tried to. did the orange revolution? did. Do you have a military coup? no. OK. arrange. arranged, the benefit of assistants tuyeva heath. so, what is next? nothing. more precisely, they have not thought about it yet. most likely they were not going to. the goal is not order, but to get caught. It is striking that someone still believes one of them.
  28. Nikich
    Nikich April 10 2014 13: 52
    0
    Quote: vezunchik
    Inexplicable military appeared in Donetsk. On April 9, a bus with armed men without identification marks was blocked near the regional assembly point. Under pressure from the public, they were forced to leave the bus and return to the territory of the recruiting station. They did not answer any questions. AKSU assault rifles turned away from the camera lenses. Deputy the chief of the recruiting station said that this was army special forces from Kirovograd, who had come to guard the airport. When asked to bring one soldier and show his ID, there was a constant evasion of the question. It is difficult to say who these military men actually are, but we can say for sure that these are not draftees, but older people. They are dressed in different shapes. It is unlikely that the military unit would be dressed in anything.

    Probably the right sector. Who else!
  29. Renat
    Renat April 10 2014 13: 56
    0
    Not a name, but a joke on the spite of the day.
  30. alex_valent
    alex_valent April 10 2014 15: 01
    0
    We jumped in ecstasy, forgot about rubles. The IMF sent us right away - Give pennies, mo-kali! Give pennies pray to God - cheaper, hurry up! Our muzzle we would immediately for a moment unravel. Give pennies, give pennies, give pennies, mo-ho! We will build a NATO base and drive ships. In the meantime, file pennies! Give pennies, mos-kali! Kohl give, we will not swear Russia a couple of days. Give me a penny, pennies! Do not pull on the knots! Give pennies ... Just know: you are all the same - goats! Insatiable katsapy, again you brought us! Don’t pull your paws to Nenko! .. Give pennies, mo-ho!
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/article-143070.html wassat
  31. razved
    razved April 10 2014 15: 27
    +1
    But true conductors do not need stability in Ukraine. Just as stability is not needed in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria. Yes, generally nowhere where they can grab. and if you can still spoil us, then even more so.
  32. parus2nik
    parus2nik April 10 2014 15: 39
    +2
    Yatsenyuk, put his hand in his trouser pocket .. This is the end, he thought, but where is the gun?
  33. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 10 2014 17: 41
    +1
    MOSCOW, April 10 - RIA News. Russian President Vladimir Putin, in a letter to European leaders on the issue of Ukraine’s debt for gas, expressed extreme concern about the situation and suggested taking urgent measures to resolve the problem, spokesman for the Russian head of state Dmitry Peskov told RIA Novosti.


    Source: http://ria.ru/economy/20140410/1003362398.html#13971370895284&message=resize&rel

    to = login & action = removeClass & value = registration

    That's right, the creditor is supposed to growl and blame him for all mortal sins. Money, bye-bye, and they demand a loan.
  34. mig31
    mig31 April 10 2014 18: 01
    +1
    In the end, one end - death !!! fascism - death !!! chauvinism - death !!! the European Union - death !!! NATO - death !!! American hawks - death !!! jackals fed by Russophobes, in short, as and it has always been in the history of the Russian state whoever comes at us with a sword will perish by the sword.
  35. Mkhitar
    Mkhitar April 10 2014 18: 07
    +4
    It will only change that Ukraine will immediately have two presidents (or even three, if Turchinov suddenly decides that it would be too early to resign all Ukraine) ... There were already three rounds in Ukraine, so why can't there be three presidents ...

    A very interesting prospect, just like in Sparta, where there were also two kings, one for example went to war, the other remained to rule the state. Well, three is even better! God loves the Trinity, though what kind of God they have is not entirely clear. And the worse the Lacedaemonians are, the ancient Ukrainians, maybe they will be even more ancient, and now, if we develop an analogy, then Ukraine is now almost Sparta: there are a small number of Ukrainian citizens and a large number of Russians and Russian-speaking people, who are destined for the role of helots by the efora junta. In order to pacify and keep the majority of "neoilots" under control, the Spartans are coming out to be skilled warriors, by historical analogy, all Ukrainian citizens, from children to women, should be such, while their role is played by all kinds of "activists" of the right sectors, Maidan self-defenders and other senseis of the military hopak. So, if Ukraine embarks on the path of Spartan development and, as a preservation of its state integrity, chooses the idea of ​​educating Ukrainian citizens - warriors who practice the art of war day and night and have no right to do anything else in order to keep the "neoilots" subordinate and live for account of their labors, then this course is fully consistent with and, in the long term, the election of two (kings) presidents, and the ascension of the ideology of Nazi exclusivity, and the constant internal threat of an uprising of the oppressed majority and an insidious external enemy, which is a reason to keep yourself in constant physical tone. And this is quite in the spirit of modern realities nurtured by the "crooked leadership" of Ukraine, and not some kind of sci-fi federalization of the country. And further, the transition of Ukrainian citizens to Spartan asceticism in everyday life is quite justified, which is consistent with the economic collapse, the introduction of iron-obols into circulation - when money is made of iron, what luxury, bribes, corruption, rich oligarchs and other vanity? All are equal, isn't this what was declared on the Maidan during the overthrow of the corrupt government? Oh, what classical pictures my imagination draws to me, legends come true! - before us is a new Lycurgus-Yatsenyuk (Turchinov, Timoshenko?) Introducing harsh laws, 300 ukrov in the battle of ..., and if they are adopted in Europe, then these 300 heroes can be recruited from fighting homosexuals in order to correspond to the theory that 300 Spartans there were 150 pairs of lovers, and then the entire "civilized world" will beat in ecstasy from the achievements of a free Ukraine, Russia has already been approved for the role of evil Persians.
    I read the nonsense I wrote and asked myself: why is my "history" worse than the official myth about "Ancient Ukraine" and "ancient Ukrainians"?
  36. muhomor
    muhomor April 10 2014 18: 30
    +1
    The economic difficulties of the junta are not terrible. With the modern setting of propaganda work, all Ukraine knows that mskal is to blame for everything. and personally GDP.
  37. andron72
    andron72 April 10 2014 19: 18
    +2
    they all f ... there fool
  38. Cristall
    Cristall April 10 2014 19: 54
    +3
    Quote: muhomor
    The economic difficulties of the junta are not terrible. With the modern setting of propaganda work, all Ukraine knows that mskal is to blame for everything. and personally GDP.

    The country simply does not know (or rather, it is not allowed to find out) how much black Negro priest is in the country.
    The media is completely under control ...
    they are not at all busy with clarifying the situation on the economic front.
    Yes, and why? Is anyone on the Maidan could be involved in the economy? Did the EU or the CU debate in the Ukrainian economy? Some slogans were ...
    now people see price increases ... and "Putin is to blame" doesn't help much ..
    1. Turkir
      Turkir April 11 2014 16: 56
      0
      Write about prices. And we will understand whether you are in "Europe" already or not yet.
  39. OST_51RU
    OST_51RU April 10 2014 20: 37
    +1
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/article-143070.html

    I want to say that it is nice to see people who have not gone crazy in Ukraine, who have not been brainwashed and they still see soberly what is happening. The poem is more addressed to Maidan people who have turned and who turn Russia into an aggressor and an invader.
    Are you great? There are not even words ... You are now free from brains! You are free from repentance, respect, and understanding. Oh, as free as Ukraine! Now even free from Crimea! Free from Russian contagion, From its protection and from gas. :-) Well, let's ride some more! Let's sing, fight, cry ... Let's shoot our brothers in the back And split Ukraine completely. You publicly announced that you are also free from the army. You are not our brothers, you judge sensibly. You will not be a brother to anyone. What, Europe will call you brother? They look at you as if they were primates. You are dull, dying and groaning. Are we jealous? Yes, you drive! We are jealous ... how sweet it is. How can morons be jealous? Enough for the whole country to perform! Do not forget to give us brothers. Our brothers live among you, They spit in your tribe with contempt. Europe does not want to lick We are not ashamed to call them brothers. And when will Ukraine understand that there are half of such people in it? Come on, quickly separate, And crawl to crawl to yourself. We don't need, believe me, your rabble. Russia will not take you back. Russia is too tough for you. There will be no trash heap - "Maidan". We have enough of our fucks. A year later, you are not recognized. Our people are close to us and we love We are glad that we returned our Crimea. And while you are tearing the umbilical cords, the east of Ukraine will be with us. There is a very old law: "Only the one who is smart wins." And not the one who knows little, But he thinks himself great and considers himself. They were dreaming about Europe ... But who are you in that Europe?
  40. siberalt
    siberalt April 10 2014 23: 15
    +1
    Ukraine will receive a free cheese in a mousetrap as a gift laughing

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/548/fgtz905.jpg
    1. Turkir
      Turkir April 11 2014 17: 01
      0
      Not you alone, Ukrainians also thought so.
      Anecdote from the time of the occupation of France:
      A lady sits in a tram, reads a book and cries all the time.
      The gentleman, on the contrary, asks:
      - Love story?
      “No,” the lady answers, “the cookbook.”
  41. Magamed
    Magamed April 11 2014 12: 38
    0
    All the henchmen of Maidan will soon be married in the spirit of Geyropa and there will be a bitch wedding to sing and dance again, and the next fag ... they will find Anglo-Saxon money, and they will never calm down either led or leading shepherds until they are neutered, I would like to do it peacefully, although the Russians may otherwise well, very, very painful. Really they don’t understand beyond the puddle, I think they understand, they just want to feel, but history is a regularity only with geographical and temporal amendments, where the truth is there God. Just from the hamburgers, the brains in jelly turned around.
  42. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 April 11 2014 12: 50
    +1
    Quote: platitsyn70
    in Kiev, the people are already breaking up, and wants to see a happy future for which he fought.

    I’m disgusted with myself, but I can’t suppress the feeling of gloating within myself .. how much was always the case with the squeaks, let them receive their independence until ..
  43. homosum20
    homosum20 April 11 2014 18: 08
    0
    If a person has died, then this is for a long time.
    And if xoxol - then forever.
  44. siberalt
    siberalt April 11 2014 22: 19
    0
    "The revolution has no beginning, the revolution has no end." It's a pity the author was not a pioneer in the USSR. laughing Doesn't even catch up with the elderly laughing
  45. pvv113
    pvv113 April 12 2014 17: 41
    +6
    Quote: podpolkovnik
    Quote: ele1285
    Tolik, categorically agree, do not you find similarities in the pictures?


    And so - better!
    A very worthy application of the Yankovsky flag laughing
  46. Altor86
    Altor86 April 12 2014 18: 51
    0
    A letter from one of the Ukrainians.
    00:40
    Mikhail Manakhov
    02:02
    Dima, you have completely lost your brains. Too bad you're my classmate. You sold your homeland. You’ve turned out to be a reptile, remember all the others who come further to my homeland with weapons I will destroy to the last, or last drop of blood, and you’re a zombie live with false values ​​imposed on you by the media, the developments of NLP. as it was before in Germany. I thought you were smarter. Remember. you will shove weapons to my Motherland there and die, * KOMSOMOLETS *, but in fact you, betraying your homeland, are rare
    02:10
    Forget your classmates from the Dnieper, you will appear in the Dnieper, sukkah, stealing you and you Putin’s tell them to yours, we don’t want war, but if it does, we will fight like pit bulls, we will tear until we die, we are not Caucasians, and we don’t Abkhazians, we are forerunner slovenians. but very wild and we will destroy everyone who is against us. We tolerate for a long time, but stopping is no longer possible. We are not, I am the Nazi face, s, where everyone is for himself, we are experiencing all the interference,
    02:13
    Crimeans are already in a shit from you Russians of vomiting dogs, they promised one thing, but in reality, as always, in shit, and you swallow it and support it. Prostitutes you, and you slut if you support this mess
  47. Altor86
    Altor86 April 12 2014 18: 53
    0
    And young was nothing like, in adequate. In short, no comment.
  48. crambol
    crambol April 12 2014 20: 24
    0
    ... does the revolution have an end?


    Some kind of hermaphroditism!