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In Donetsk, form a provisional government and await the assault

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In Donetsk, form a provisional government and await the assault



Meanwhile, in Donetsk, supporters of federalization form a provisional government. Donbass was the first among the Ukrainian regions to proclaim itself a sovereign republic. Protesters hold the regional administration building and declare that they will stand to the end. The richest Ukrainian oligarch, Rinat Akhmetov, acted as a negotiator, but did not listen to him either. The patience of people dried up - the opinion of the inhabitants of the south-east Kiev stubbornly ignores.

Over the past day, nothing radically changed at the regional state administration building, except that the anticipation of the assault became more obvious. At the entrance to the building appeared the second cordon of tires. People from the square do not disperse, but they refuse to call for the authorities to vacate the premises. Everyone is waiting for what will happen next.

Life in the regional administration does not subside even at night. Opponents of euromaidan are waiting for the security forces to storm the regional administration. And after the statement by the Minister of Internal Affairs Avakov appointed by the Verkhovna Rada that the special forces deployed to the region are ready to solve operational tasks by any means, rumors begin to creep that the special forces have an order to shoot to kill. “Yes, you can’t shed blood here. We’re all here — Orthodox Muslims are brothers,” says one of the residents of Donetsk.

A respected Donetsk businessman Rinat Akhmetov arrives at the rally at night. He is supposedly a mediator between Kiev and the people. Suggests to go to the negotiations.

Later it becomes clear that the businessman was trying to conduct negotiations right on the square, with his approach to a business person. If the protest cannot be suppressed, you can try to buy it. “I stood aside, he didn’t have a long time, he offered hryvnias to our people on 100 so that they would leave, but our people refused. There was a conflict and they drove him out, they didn’t do anything to him,” said another Donetsk resident Nadezhda Lukyanova.

One hundred hryvnia is less than ten dollars. For people who hold the second day of defense and are ready to give everything up to life, this is clearly an unequal bargain. However, any trading here is inappropriate. The newborn Donetsk Republic today dismissed all executive power, including the oligarch governor Taruta, from their posts. And she appointed a provisional government. “There is a lot of work for the power block,” says Miroslav Rudenko, a member of the Donbas people's militia. “It consists of our activists who have organized and strengthened over the past two days.”

Among the new people's deputies, there are also former parliamentarians who believe that the seizure of the administration in many respects provoked the inaction of the local authorities, who had withdrawn themselves. "I say - we are on the verge of bloodshed, let's go out and do something to prevent this, but there is no answer", - exclaims the deputy of the Donetsk Regional Council Irina Popova.

The governor of Taruta does not appear on the public plane. On the air of local channels the mayor of Donetsk Alexander Lukyanchenko blows for him. He does not agree with the seizure of the administration, nor with the demands of the people.

One of the first appeals of the leadership of the newly formed Donetsk Republic was a call to all the security forces located in the region to join the people and take the oath of the new state. There was no answer yet.
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  1. operator35
    operator35 April 8 2014 21: 41
    +14
    Hang on brothers !!!! We are waiting for the order of the Supreme, we will help !!!!
    1. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 8 2014 21: 46
      +14
      I agree, the main thing is, hold on, our Supreme is still silent, and I hope when he says his word we will enter Kiev.
      1. Siberian19
        Siberian19 April 8 2014 21: 49
        +6
        Donetsk is preparing for defense!
      2. Monk
        Monk April 8 2014 22: 38
        +1
        Why are you in such a hurry, everything has its time.
        1. predator.3
          predator.3 April 9 2014 07: 35
          +1
          We are all here - Orthodox Muslims - brothers ", - says one of the residents of Donetsk.

          This phrase killed on the spot! good yes
        2. razved
          razved April 9 2014 14: 01
          0
          Absolutely agree. Everything must be done on time.
      3. Nick
        Nick April 8 2014 22: 39
        +13
        Quote: svetlomor
        , our Supreme is still silent,

        Let him be silent. It is better to silently organize assistance with military supplies and polite volunteers than to openly declare war IMHO ...
        1. Dmitry Donskoy
          Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 02: 05
          +2
          That's for sure. While it is not worth invading, the United States and the West will be hysterical. Better to throw weapons to the patriots. I think Putin will still say his weighty word and do what is necessary at hour H. He will not be hysterical, like any barracks and other sheds.
          1. Evgeniy-111
            Evgeniy-111 April 9 2014 08: 30
            +1
            They now need to throw sensible advisers! And then they found a method - REQUEST a referendum in Kiev. Found someone to demand ...
      4. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ April 9 2014 06: 04
        +5
        Hang on brothers !!!!


        But remember, defense is the path to defeat. Only active offensive actions can bring victory.
        Raise people to mass demonstrations, form self-defense units.
        Where are the Cossacks of Donetsk region? Where is the "glorious" working class of miners? Was it all leaked out of fear of losing a job in the mine? Have you forgotten that "the proletariat has nothing to lose but its chains"?
    2. Sid.74
      Sid.74 April 8 2014 21: 52
      +21
      Now Kerry was listening to 24, no words! Hypocritical and nothing more! Like, clearly the Russians have bought everyone and this is an external organization from Russia!am So your Yellowstone flutters !!!
      1. nikulina-84
        nikulina-84 April 8 2014 21: 55
        +6
        That's for sure!!! Let them sit on their volcano ...
        1. alex-s
          alex-s April 8 2014 22: 01
          +7
          It would be better if they washed away the tsunami! How much calmer the world began to live!
          1. typhoon7
            typhoon7 April 8 2014 23: 14
            +1
            The people, I can’t throw the video, In Lugansk, in the central square, thousands of people and the national anthem of Russia throughout the city. vk.com/cyriaassad
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 April 8 2014 21: 56
        +14
        Lugansk partisans are preparing for the assault !!!
        1. lukke
          lukke April 9 2014 09: 19
          0
          Lugansk partisans are preparing for the assault
          The guys do not need to concentrate in one SBU building. There are enough small forces. They need to establish work along the perimeter: region, city, center, SBU administration. Establish constant communication (taking into account the possibility of turning off the light) and exchange information with mobile groups that would extract information about the situation from outside, carry out work to "neutralize" Kiev "spotters" directly in the center, they would gouge heavy equipment at the entrance to the city (times made the decision "Until the end"). Passive defense in the ring will not be long. In parallel, they need to create their own local self-government bodies that are capable of responding and carrying out work on the functioning of all regional and municipal services. I hope this is all done, just not on camera. Otherwise, everything will end not in favor of the citizens of Lugansk and Donetsk.
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      3. Siberian19
        Siberian19 April 8 2014 22: 05
        +4
        also looked, lying American trash!
      4. Tersky
        Tersky April 8 2014 22: 18
        +6
        Quote: Sid.74
        Kerry is now on the news 24 listened

        I’d better listen to my neighbor Leo the Fool about fifty times, he will tell more truth than this trash .. Evgeny, hi
      5. Gloria45
        Gloria45 April 9 2014 00: 03
        +4
        In Lviv, a girl was beaten to death for speaking Russian
        Posted by journalist on Yesterday, 15:01 PM

        Novoross.info - A terrifying case, which, incidentally, clearly illustrates the attitude of radicals illegally seizing power in Ukraine, occurred in Lviv. There, in one of the restaurants, neo-Nazis severely beat the girl because she spoke Russian. The girl was beaten so badly that she died from her injuries.

        This was reported to journalists in Simferopol by the chairman of the State Council of the Republic of Crimea Vladimir Konstantinov. According to him, the deceased girl was the daughter of his friends.

        “My acquaintances called my phone, whose daughter in Lvov was brutally beaten to death in a restaurant for speaking Russian. The girl's body is not given to her family. They are told: 'if you say even a word, we will not even give you the body.' These are the things that happen in real life, ”said Vladimir Konstantinov.

        In this regard, the head of the State Council of Crimea assured that the republic will help the residents of southeast Ukraine in their desire to fight for their rights and their future.

        “We must not stop. We need to protect our compatriots, no matter where they are or under whatever pressure they are, ”he emphasized.
        1. Dmitry Donskoy
          Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 02: 00
          +1
          Sorry for the girl! No way hurt. Oh, take a grenade launcher and shove a grenade at the neo-Nazi headquarters.
      6. Nick
        Nick April 9 2014 12: 06
        0
        Quote: Sid.74
        So your Yellowstone flutters !!!

        Be careful with desires, they sometimes come true! According to some volcanologists, the Yellowstone supervolcano can cause a global cataclysm in case of an eruption. Everyone will get one word ...
    3. Tiamat2702
      Tiamat2702 April 8 2014 21: 57
      +3
      Quote: operator35
      Hang on brothers !!!! We are waiting for the order of the Supreme, we will help !!!!

      And he (the order) will be? I really hope that will be!
      1. sniper
        sniper April 8 2014 22: 51
        +17
        Quote: Tiamat2702
        And he (the order) will be?

        I'm afraid not .... The very possibility of resistance is incompetently failed. I’m bitter to write about this, but ... remember Crimea, to begin with the fact that it was already autonomy, our troops were already there legally and until the very last everything was done by the forces of the Crimeans, by the forces of the Crimea’s self-defense. And only after the referendum the Russian troops began to manifest themselves legally, but the identity of Polite People is still a mystery ... In the Southeast we have a completely different picture. With a multi-million population, several thousand people are participating in the protests, the rest are waiting ... There is no work done with the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, there are no real leaders, there is no coordination between the regions, there are no real goals (the seizure of buildings without hope to keep them pointless). Everything is on emotions, and revolution is the lot of professionals. It really hurts me for our brothers in the southeast, but I'm afraid they won’t win ... With such actions, Russia has no reason to send troops, only diplomacy ... Unless Putin has reserved some trump card ...
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      3. polite people
        polite people April 9 2014 00: 30
        +1
        We are waiting for you DONBASS.
    4. Sterlya
      Sterlya April 8 2014 23: 10
      +1
      I was already happy when the Bison from Yellowstone ran. there must have been a distraction laughing
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 01: 45
        0
        I, too, was delighted, I thought right now Yellowstone is gasping and sweeping away this scummy and vile America from the face of the Earth. Western Europe would also have suffered, and even without the United States they are bullshit against Russia.
  2. Kazanec
    Kazanec April 8 2014 21: 42
    +19
    Let Donetsk succeed !!!!
    1. typhoon7
      typhoon7 April 8 2014 22: 51
      +3
      If GDP is silent, then the security forces are working. For the West, this is already becoming a bad omen.
    2. zzz
      zzz April 8 2014 23: 00
      +7
      Repost:

      For Holy Russia
      08.04/XNUMX. Operational information for Donetsk :: Important !!
      (information reliability 50%)

      Call the guys who barricaded themselves in the Donetsk Regional State Administration. There may be a journalist from the 5th US column in Russia - "Echo of Moscow" - Ilya Azar. Introduces himself as a journalist from Moscow. He is looking for incriminating evidence among the militia - for the liberal and Western media. He can also cooperate with the SBU to transfer operational information to them and adjust the special forces snipers !! We post his photo.

      If there is such a person, you yourself know what needs to be done.
      1. zzz
        zzz April 8 2014 23: 06
        +2
        CROSS:
        Oksana Bystritskaya (Zhitnik)
        Now on all Ukrainian channels there was news about the mining of the Lugansk SBU and the taking of hostages, which is an outright lie and an occasion for storming the building and shooting to kill, spread the information, please !!!
  3. brelok
    brelok April 8 2014 21: 43
    +7
    and Meanwhile, armored vehicles are being introduced into the cities! There will be blood ...
    1. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 April 8 2014 21: 53
      +6
      Or torches from armored vehicles.
    2. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 8 2014 21: 57
      +3
      If they introduce a lot of equipment into the city-crews, there will be not only Natsyk! And this means the townspeople will have their own tanks!
  4. vezunchik
    vezunchik April 8 2014 21: 45
    +10
    As in 1941 - everyone was waiting until they started to hang! Fascists and bandits fear only strength !! This should be understood by the cops and the army - they will not spare the eggs !!!
    1. bubalik
      bubalik April 8 2014 22: 01
      +9

      vezunchik (2) SU  Today, 21: 45


      As in 1941 - everyone was waiting until they started to hang! Fascists and bandits fear only strength !! This should be understood by the cops and the army - they will not spare the eggs !!!


      ,,, would rather understand ,,,
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  5. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx April 8 2014 21: 45
    +4
    One hundred hryvnias is less than ten dollars. For people who hold the second day of defense and are ready to give everything up to life, this is clearly an unequal bargaining.

    And what in this situation is equivalent bargaining based on money? soldier
  6. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 8 2014 21: 47
    +1
    Donetsk will not back off already ...... people will not back down ..... I'm afraid there will be a bloody analysis
  7. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF April 8 2014 21: 48
    +2
    benders make no concessions. They consciously heat the atmosphere. Looks like their roof has a plan to build Syria here - 2. Now go to sleep, and in the morning let there be only good news, although there is little chance of it.
  8. Klim
    Klim April 8 2014 21: 51
    +2
    What is the Supreme waiting for?
    1. operator35
      operator35 April 8 2014 21: 57
      +10
      Klim, he is not, he will not be hysterical ... he does everything according to his mind .... I do not know what, but phrases like "betrayed and abandoned" are not true !!!! him back in any way, already harnessed !!!
      with respect hi
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov April 9 2014 00: 59
        +1
        Calmly, when everything started in Crimea, many also shouted "what is Putin waiting for" and all that. And that's how it happened. Let him be silent, he does it great.
        1. stayer
          stayer April 9 2014 08: 50
          0
          An anecdote from the past was remembered (American).
          Ford Plant.
          There is a tour around the plant. The tour is conducted by Ford himself.
          One hiker runs up to Ford and gestures to a man in the far corner.
          (mockingly) - I see that this person is not doing anything. Just sitting with his legs on the table. Punish him, you probably do not need such an employee?
          Ford looking at that man calmly answers.
          - This manager brought me the biggest profit in the last 20 years last month. He sat like that too. So let it "do nothing" further.

          What am I doing? If you think that GDP does nothing, you are very mistaken. Let it be silent, we will see the result very soon.
  9. VikVik741
    VikVik741 April 8 2014 21: 52
    +1
    Everything will work out for us !!!!!
  10. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich April 8 2014 21: 53
    +10
    Upstairs, you comrades, everything is in place!
    The last parade is coming!
    Our proud one doesn’t surrender to the enemy ... Donbass,
    No one wants mercy!
  11. oldstaryi
    oldstaryi April 8 2014 21: 55
    +5
    Quote: brelok
    and Meanwhile, armored vehicles are being introduced into the cities! There will be blood ...


    Well, it's time to make cocktails and grenade launchers. The experience of Chechnya has not taught anything to the Maydauns! what
    1. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 01: 55
      +2
      In urban conditions, burn armored vehicles like two fingers on the asphalt, but I think that cocktails alone can not do, it would be necessary to throw patriots of grenade launchers. But who will do it? But you can arrange it. Yes, more machines. Then the American specialists, having received a sharp rebuff, will be cut off and dumped in the quiet, they are not fools to lay their heads for the Kiev impostors.
  12. Michael-rl
    Michael-rl April 8 2014 21: 56
    +6
    https://www.facebook.com/dmitry.tymchuk

    In particular, according to our data, today according to the GRU plan of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, separatist leaders were given instructions on the night of April 8 on April 9 of this year. organize a “corridor” across the state border of Ukraine for passage of columns of military equipment of the Russian Federation from Russian territory.


    And in the comments, the people already hate Russia for the invasion, which only someone was fancy. Just real like a zombie.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky April 8 2014 22: 27
      +5
      Quote: Michael-rl
      And in the comments, the people already hate Russia for the invasion that only someone had a fancy

      The hatred of the people is not a fear that they will have to answer for everything, the fear and hatred of the Yatsenyukhov, Turchinovs, Klyachkov and others like them have nothing to fear from the people.
      1. aleks700
        aleks700 April 9 2014 09: 12
        0
        People are not afraid, people hate.
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 8 2014 23: 14
      +2
      Quote: Michael-rl
      https://www.facebook.com/dmitry.tymchuk

      In particular, according to our data, today according to the plan of the GRU of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, separatist leaders were given instructions on the night of April 8 to 9. organize a “corridor” across the state border of Ukraine for passage of columns of military equipment of the Russian Federation from Russian territory.


      And in the comments, the people already hate Russia for the invasion, which only someone was fancy. Just real like a zombie.

      People, I OH..wow, does our technology need a corridor? There are enough teams along the way - TO THE WEST and everything that Ukrainians are going to stop tactical battalion groups in which are tanks, armored personnel carriers, air defense missile systems, infantry fighting vehicles? they themselves are not funny from the delirium that they carry? and this Temchuk is BARAN.
    3. COLUN
      COLUN April 9 2014 00: 02
      +2
      Aha ridiculed ... at maydaunov mole in the GRU General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. He writes SMSki to them ...
  13. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 April 8 2014 21: 57
    +11
    Today, Shuvalov recommended that all companies switch to our exchange.
    Medvedev held a meeting, talking about long loans from our Central Bank, in return for the West.
    I think this suggests that the army is at a "low start".
    Hold on Brothers !!!
  14. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 8 2014 21: 58
    +7
    Hang on guys. The Russian media are now explaining the true state of things in Ukraine. So public opinion is being prepared. So we won’t leave you !!!
  15. pensioner
    pensioner April 8 2014 21: 59
    +5
    Yes, even with a weapon to help somehow ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 8 2014 22: 04
      +4
      Quote: retired
      Yes, even with a weapon to help somehow ...

      It’s high time to return the Crimean arsenals to Ukraine, through the Eastern regions ... Moreover, Mariupol is not very far away ... And this is Donetsk region ...
    2. smile
      smile April 8 2014 22: 29
      +4
      pensioner
      Yes, the main thing here is not weapons, the main thing is organization. Under normal command, they will have enough forces to peacefully seize the arsenals of the demoralized military unit of Ukraine and the police departments. Yes and not quite peaceful at first - that's enough. Nothing to supply. There was still not enough Russian trace to leave.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 8 2014 22: 49
        +9
        Quote: smile
        Yes, the main thing here is not weapons, the main thing is organization.

        ... and people having CONSCIENCE и HONOUR.
        In Dnepropetrovsk, some police officers guarding the local regional administration tied St. George ribbons on uniforms.
        When local Nazis and proteges of the Kiev junta found out about this, they started hysterical. An evil but peaceful people are gathering under the administration, in Kharkiv, Lugansk, Donetsk the people have occupied the Regional State Administration, and here they have this in the "rear"!

        "... In turn, the Deputy Governor of Dnipropetrovsk Svyatoslav Oleinik, who is in charge of coordinating the work of law enforcement agencies, also commented on this incident on his Facebook page:

        1. smile
          smile April 8 2014 23: 05
          +1
          Corsair
          Yes, you're right ... probably this is even more important ....
          1. Corsair
            Corsair April 8 2014 23: 18
            +3
            Quote: smile
            Yes, you're right ... probably this is even more important ....
            A lot of reinforcements arrived at the people holding the SBU building in Lugansk (video)
        2. Commodus
          Commodus April 9 2014 02: 16
          +2
          That is, it wisely turns everything upside down. that now St. George ribbons - a sign of neo-fascism? Ept. Even death on Coke, I do not consider it easy for them. It’s a pity the truth is that these bastards lick well the west, and most likely they can get them out of there.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair April 9 2014 04: 45
            0
            Quote: Commodus
            That is, it wisely turns everything upside down. that now St. George ribbons - a sign of neo-fascism?

            Yes, that's it ... Such "people" came to power in Ukraine.
  16. Officer
    Officer April 8 2014 22: 06
    +10
    He lived all his life, and once again became convinced, the main enemy of Russia - the WB and the USA.
    1. R1a1a
      R1a1a April 9 2014 00: 27
      +6
      And GERMANY, if you knew what anti-Russian propaganda they carry here through the media!
  17. dr.star75
    dr.star75 April 8 2014 22: 08
    +3
    Does the script remind you of anything? Depending on the actions of the power block of Ukraine, we will see either anti-Maidan-1, or Crimea-2. Based on the actions of the ukrarmia, it’s more likely according to 1 option. TO negative unfortunately ...
  18. Little Muck
    Little Muck April 8 2014 22: 10
    +1
    Do the guys in Lugansk know that a dozen armored personnel carriers are coming to them? Are there people outside the SBU building to burn up the intruders at the approaches?
    1. Belarus
      Belarus April 8 2014 22: 43
      +7
      And it would be very competent, but the main thing was to leave then whole and healthy.
      But at the outskirts of the quarter for three four patrols are also needed. The main thing is that they would not be jammed and the men could talk.
      But there people and without me know perfectly well how to freak a piston in the ass to insert.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 8 2014 23: 02
        +3
        Quote: Belarus
        But at the outskirts of the quarter for three four patrols are also needed. The main thing is that they would not be jammed and the men could talk.

        The problem of "jamming" communication lines is solved simply and with Soviet grace ... Field telephone lines are secretly stretched to the buildings that are key in the defense of the SBU building, and believe the attackers "chopping off" the communications existing in the plans will not be ready for such a surprise ...
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 8 2014 23: 32
      +5
      Quote: Little Muck
      Do the guys in Lugansk know that a dozen armored personnel carriers are coming to them? Are there people outside the SBU building to burn up the intruders at the approaches?

      they normally took RPGs in the SBU, so there is something to meet the boxes with, and if there are 7Н26, 7Н13, 7Н14 cartridges for SVDs, then the crews will generally have fun ...
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 9 2014 04: 53
        0
        Quote: PSih2097
        they normally took RPGs in the SBU, so there is something to meet the boxes with, and if there are 7Н26, 7Н13, 7Н14 cartridges for SVDs, then the crews will generally have fun ...
        Thanks for the comment.
        Complement ...


        Cartridge 7H14

        In the mid-80 of the XX century, work was underway in the USSR to modernize the 7,62 mm sniper cartridge with a bullet CH. In particular, the task was set to create a sniper cartridge with a bullet with increased breakdown characteristics.

        The specialists of TsNIITOCHMASH together with the design bureau of plant No.188 (Novosibirsk cartridge factory) developed a sniper armor-piercing bullet of the SNB. By 1986, several variants of prototype cartridges with sniper armor-piercing bullets were provided for testing.

        But due to the collapse of the USSR and the related economic and political processes, the development of the NSS bullet was delayed, and the cartridge was adopted only in 1999 under the GRAU index 7Н14.

        7,62 mm sniper rifle cartridge 7Н14 with sniper armor-piercing bullet SNB is designed to destroy enemy manpower, including equipped with personal protective equipment (body armor), as well as lightly armored ground equipment. The bullet of the cartridge consists of a bimetallic shell, a combined core - a pointed steel hardened core made of steel grade U12A in the head of the bullet and a cylindrical lead core.

        The armor-piercing action of the bullet of the 7Н14 cartridge in the armor plate of the 2 brand with a thickness of 5 mm or a sheet of steel St3 with a thickness of 10 mm, mounted vertically at a distance of 300 m - not less than 80%.

        Serial production of cartridges 7Н14 with bimetallic sleeves was deployed at the factory number 188 (Novosibirsk cartridge factory). The cartridges 7Н14 do not have a visual difference from the cartridges 7Н1 and LPS, although it was initially assumed that the joints of the sleeve with the bullet and capsule will be painted with purple varnish, the only difference is the marking on the package: a black stripe and the inscription “SNIPERS”.

        7Н14 sniper rifle cartridges with the SNB sniper armor-piercing bullet currently have no analogues in the world.
  19. operator35
    operator35 April 8 2014 22: 16
    +5
    I believe that all this armored vehicles and "scarecrows" are all a bluff ... undoubtedly, it can work - in Kiev, of course, fools, but not suicides, if they use weapons against civilians, the extreme edges begin all the way ... even we not needed. they will tear them apart, but with the victims of innocent civilians, but they will tear them apart very quickly. IMHO
    1. BYV
      BYV April 8 2014 22: 51
      +4
      Judging by the actions, statements and actions of the "new authorities" - they do not understand anything, do not think about the consequences, and such an expression as "cause-and-effect relationships" hardly anyone of them has heard. Therefore, the situation is extremely dangerous. In fact, it's like a monkey with a grenade. It is impossible to predict what she might throw out the next minute.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair April 8 2014 23: 29
      +2
      Quote: operator35
      I think that all this armored vehicles and "scarecrows" are all bluff ...

      For armored vehicles within a city building, and even more so a multi-story building, every window, balcony, roof, corner of the building carries a mortal threat.
      The question is the availability and range of means of combating the armored vehicles of the rebels.
      The most elementary - "cocktail", I think there will be no problems with it, but of course the question about RPGs ...
  20. Viktori1
    Viktori1 April 8 2014 22: 23
    +4
    Rather, Amer Volcanism would fry a little for a start ... to get scared ... And they’re tired of their double standards ... why they can afford to bomb the Slavs, Muslims, and we should not protect the Slavic brothers in their opinion ...
    1. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 02: 53
      0
      They all can. By right of the strong. The strong is always powerless to blame and always for nothing for nothing gets in his ear. And with complete impunity. That is why the Americans got hysterical when Putin and Russia showed them their mighty fist. Russia has changed, become strong, not like in the Yeltsin era, when it was a beggar, weak and accommodating. Something like this.
  21. Belarus
    Belarus April 8 2014 22: 27
    +2
    Donetsk residents hold on, God help you in a difficult struggle!
  22. polite people
    polite people April 8 2014 22: 28
    +7
    It's only the beginning.
  23. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 8 2014 22: 32
    +6
    Indescribably shitty on souls.
  24. polite people
    polite people April 8 2014 22: 33
    +8
    Judah from Kiev.
  25. Belarus
    Belarus April 8 2014 22: 40
    +4
    Really Kiev maydanuty not understand that one who died in this case in Lugansk and the scribe will be a big scribe.
    After all, then Lugansk partisans will not restrain anything, nothing at all.
    And the fellows were not afraid and were not afraid to show their faces, in contrast to all kinds of "special forces" Ukrainian Jaguar, which can only against simple and unarmed people can boldly.
  26. dedvictor
    dedvictor April 8 2014 22: 48
    +9
    I'm afraid that the basis for us (Russia) to intervene is blood. Kiev understands this, too, slowly shooting. But so far we have no reason to do something. No. Then they will expose us as aggressors and invaders. And do not mind the fact. Brothers, go to the referendum, give us a legal clue, help you. Well, or the shooting will begin. But not yet!
  27. Normal
    Normal April 8 2014 22: 53
    +2
    Hang on, Donetsk! Hold on We are with you. It is possible that we will not be able to come to the rescue as it was in the Crimea. Perhaps blood will spill. Courage to you and good luck! Hold on, brothers!
  28. pvv113
    pvv113 April 8 2014 22: 57
    +10
    If Donetsk withstands, then this will be the victory of the entire southeast. Hold on, we are with you !!!
    1. Corsair
      Corsair April 8 2014 23: 13
      +3
      Quote: pvv113
      If Donetsk withstands, then this will be the victory of the entire southeast. Hold on, we are with you !!!

      Donetsk and Lugansk one blood-Donbass.
  29. komod77
    komod77 April 8 2014 23: 14
    +5
    Rise east !!! Rise, rise up the Cossack east, Or wait for the batogi from the caches, Save your house from the junta b ... .. th, The Whole Land from the ghetto and the plague. Blood and tears are already pouring in flour, In hell the Ukrainian people, He stretches out his arms to heaven, But in vain! The scaffold is close. Ace we suffered a lot, Nazism until we endure, After all, a hundred in heaven is the beginning, In the sight and we are preparing death. Let the Edge hammer in bodies? Or can’t we gather our strength? We’ll miss an hour — we will perish ourselves. The massacre awaits us under the ghoul. Around us, peoples live, For a long time stability in their fate, They only eat in our house, And we are their servants in shit. Brothers get up! All to the weapon! Not a step back, but only forward! Prepare for battle, sabers, guns! And only in this way will the regime fall. We are all in one house, We live and perish only here, The expanses are indivisible, Into the fire of all those who tear the earth. We will crush the plague under our feet, While it is still small, The world will stand on the battlefield, So that Kraina comes to life. Let the Carpathian brother get up with us, After all, he suffered the first massacre, Do not cut the brotherly knot with them, The people are one and he has received sight. I see a banner of battle, For the whole country will rise, We do not need SS - heroes, Let the enemy names disappear. March 24, 2014, Kiev.
    Taken from comments on The Kiev Times website
  30. Karabin
    Karabin April 8 2014 23: 23
    +6
    The situation in Ukraine is a test for all Russians, from those holding power to hard workers, from the Donetsk to the Far East, for perseverance and determination. Either the Russian government will stop throwing beads in front of the Ameroe Pigs, declare the people of the Southeast its own, and the territory Russia, or they will kill and plant Russian people in Donetsk and Lugansk. It's time to finish with Ukraine. The faster, the less blood. In early March, it was easier to do, but apparently commanders pissed.
  31. Aragorn
    Aragorn April 8 2014 23: 29
    +9
    Quote: brelok
    м

    The guys from the public organization of veterans of the Airborne Forces, who took the SBU building in Lugansk, raised more than 20 grenade launchers from the guns. Tanks know how to burn. They generally have a very productive pair, commander-deputy. commander (I do not know full name), promising. One strategist, another tactician plus veteran guys. I would have stood up to them myself, but too far away, I think I will need it in Kiev. Like in the film "Primordial Rus", they made a decision to win (each made his choice), whether they support them or not, and invited everyone in the region to do the same. I remember well 1991-93, when many (the majority of people living and working in Ukraine) shifted this responsibility onto the "uncle", but this only postponed the question of self-determination for a while, now there is a second chance not to be mistaken. Otherwise, there will be no one to blame.
  32. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 8 2014 23: 32
    +2
    The battalions are asking for fire - it would not have happened that people's lives would become a bargaining chip in the game of politicians.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 8 2014 23: 40
      +8
      Quote: Giant thought
      Battalions ask for fire - it wouldn’t happen that the life of people becomes a bargaining chip in the game of politicians.

      If you watched the film carefully, you would know that the point in the attack of the battalions was to divert large enemy forces onto themselves, while the divisions with minimal losses broke through the enemy's bridgehead and entered the operational space, or even better read a book, even two, the second called "hot snow", both by Yuri Bondarev.
  33. muhomor
    muhomor April 8 2014 23: 57
    +4
    The Nazis have very good advisers, (the owners) and they will not be mistaken! They will not do anything. Now the East only requires a referendum. And that’s it. No more serious action. Where are the national ministers of finance, defense, and internal affairs? We are not working with the security forces, or organizing our own police and defense of the city. They are not taking control of us. points of the region and there are no full-fledged block posts. Sitting in the administration building will not scare anyone. Bandera will not do anything. The people make noise, get tired, disperse. We must help with the organization! Where are the guys from the FSB?
  34. siberalt
    siberalt April 9 2014 00: 04
    0
    For legitimacy, deputies are needed in an amount sufficient to make a decision. And to work with the police so that they are at least neutral. Donetsk will break through, stand, and then other regions will surely support its experience.
    A power assault is expected tonight. The main thing is to survive. Good luck bro!
  35. mihasik
    mihasik April 9 2014 00: 06
    0
    They are certainly courageous guys, but again they make the same mistake. You can not stop at one or two buildings - the seizure of strategic objects. Airport, TV, stations, thermal power plants, entrances to the city, region. To complicate, block penetration on the approaches. Organize quick response units. This is at least some guarantee that to hold out until the accumulation of forces. They shouted that put under a gun 20000-put! The time has come! If there is no real power, they will crush you! The new government does not perceive anything except power. In my opinion this is clear as God's day! Only with force will be reckoned!
    1. Karabin
      Karabin April 9 2014 00: 11
      +2
      Quote: mihasik
      You can not stop at one or two buildings - the seizure of strategic objects. Airport, TV, stations, thermal power plants, entrances to the city, region.

      You are certainly right. But apparently there was only enough fighters for this.
    2. Maks-80
      Maks-80 April 9 2014 02: 22
      0
      The airport had to be captured first. Arrest all dispatchers, destroy all navigation and dispatching equipment and barricade the runway so that no one arrives from Kiev.
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 03: 10
        +1
        Well, you’re my friend, grabbed over the edge! It is necessary to capture strategic objects, but only to capture and strictly control their work. But why destroy the navigation and dispatch equipment at the airport? They themselves will come in handy, maybe they will have to land Russian military transport liners with airborne assault and armored vehicles. It’s much easier to remove air traffic controllers into rest rooms, and to place dump trucks on runways. And that's all, no dog from Kiev, or geyropa will sit down.
  36. Federal new
    Federal new April 9 2014 00: 19
    +4
    There will be no assault, I hope the guys from Donetsk and Lugansk read this, wait goodbye. Planning actions against hundreds of barrels + RPGs + masses of civilian hostile population is higher than the roof for the Ukrainian. special forces, they just don’t have at least any similar experience. It’s not necessary to relax, but it’s also not necessary to exaggerate, the Nord Ost with 40 trunks was planned by alpha (real) for 3-4 days, this hysteria is not needed, for the special operation, big SBU forces are needed at least nearby, in Lugansk this is not, I will say more than Ukrainian. it’s simply beyond the power of specialists, we need helicopters for landing from above, we need night optics for all participants of the assault, the SBU itself is well protected. Nearby and at an angle of 300 m. The hotel, I'm not sure that for snipers this is a good position, gorgaz, trees, a couple of high-rises interfere, but there are people around, no and no again. Nothing will happen
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 9 2014 04: 18
      0
      [quote = Federal new] There will be no assault, I hope the guys from Donetsk and Lugansk read this, wait goodbye. Planning actions against hundreds of barrels + RPGs + masses of civilian hostile population is higher than the roof for the Ukrainian. special forces, they just don’t have at least any similar experience ...
      ... for the special operation, big SBU forces are needed at least nearby, in Lugansk this is not, I will say more than a Ukrainian. it’s simply not possible for specialists, we need helicopters for landing from above, we need night optics for all the participants in the assault ... / quote]
      Experts understand this, and the Kiev "government" is not on friendly terms with brains, will give an order and blood will be shed.
  37. 51064
    51064 April 9 2014 00: 40
    0
    Quote: Sid.74
    Lugansk partisans are preparing for the assault !!!

    Tired guys, did not sleep for a long time.
  38. Simple
    Simple April 9 2014 01: 03
    0
    CNN reporters were allowed into the administration building and shown the inner kitchen of the protest - in every sense of the word
    Life in the oblast administration captured by the Donetsk is taking its course - inside, besides armed men, there are women and old people. Some prepare and manage the medical unit, others help, which is enough strength and health.
    "Everyone is preparing for the assault by the security forces," says a CNN correspondent

    http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/events/3346372-buterbrody-y-barrykady-zhyzn-vnu
    try-zakhvachennoi-donetskoi-oha

  39. Andron_by
    Andron_by April 9 2014 01: 13
    +3
    The problem is that Yanukovych was opposed by hundreds of thousands, and the current usurpers who occupied the Rada - hundreds. This pack, smeared with the support of Western "hornets", is recruited for only one thing: to make a swarm of hardworking bees work for one system .... in which they hope that they will get honey too ... "A rider knocked out of his horse, if at the same moment he is again will not saddle - will lose all hope of conquering the stallion "... Dear Ukrainians! I'm worried about you! Do not stand a fraction of the resolve that you are looking for protection in slogans for Russia, but for your unshakable will for Order and Justice in your Country! They are trying to destroy YOU! All that Trash that is at the helm ... They are confident about X in the opinion of the people. Drive this Trash !!! Save the Country! Unite in your Nation! Peaceful coexistence of ALL of us - Slavs depends on you ... General consolidation - will not leave you alone without the support of fraternal peoples !!! GOD help you !!!
  40. Maks-80
    Maks-80 April 9 2014 02: 07
    +2
    It is necessary that all the people of Donetsk rise. If at least 2 million of the 4 million cities rise, then even no scum and not a single Bandera will be able to do anything.
    1. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 03: 18
      0
      Yes, at least 300-500 thousand citizens would rise and none of the banderlogs would not oppose it. And small performances will quickly crush.
  41. nomad74
    nomad74 April 9 2014 02: 29
    +1
    I want to yell! But where? to whom? People of southeast Ukraine wake up! Get up shoulder to shoulder! When you are together - you are power! Together, you are afraid! Destroy one by one! Drop the illusions of power captured by the fascist junta! Negotiations with her are useless! The junta only hears strength! In this case, the power of weapons! The cowardice shown now will not allow living in harmony with oneself further! Courage and courage will give dividends with honor and respect! Millions of Russian people look at you, worry and sympathize with you! We believe in you and hope! Blood shed by you will be avenged! Know Russia you will not leave and will not forget! God be with you! and true!
  42. sarmat-4791
    sarmat-4791 April 9 2014 03: 32
    +1
    somehow like that, probably
  43. Wheel
    Wheel April 9 2014 03: 38
    0
    Later it becomes clear that the businessman tried to conduct negotiations right on the square, with the approach typical of a business person. If the protest cannot be suppressed, you can try to buy it. "I stood aside, he was with us for a short time, he offered our people 100 hryvnias to leave, but our people refused. There was a conflict and he was driven out, nothing was done to him."
    But nothing was done in vain, it was necessary to take these 100 hryvnias and put them in his ass.
    By and large, he is one of the main culprits of what Ukraine has been brought to.
    He profited from the looting of the Soviet legacy, having neither honor nor conscience, measuring everything with money.
    100 hryvnias, this is equivalent to about 3 Soviet rubles.
    Hmm, cheap he appreciates the people ....
  44. mamont5
    mamont5 April 9 2014 04: 15
    0
    Well done Donetsk. They first climbed the fight.

    "One of the first appeals from the leadership of the newly formed Donetsk republic was an appeal to all power structures located in the region to join the people and take the oath of the new state. There has been no answer yet."
    These will wait. They will look on whose side the force.
  45. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 April 9 2014 05: 38
    0
    One of the first appeals of the leadership of the newly formed Donetsk Republic was a call to all the security forces located in the region to join the people and take the oath of the new state. There was no answer yet.

    There was no answer, they are waiting, they are thinking, and I hope the solution will be correct, everyone is tired of the pseudo-power with which there is no future
  46. Santor
    Santor April 9 2014 07: 46
    +1
    Quote: Michael-rl
    https://www.facebook.com/dmitry.tymchuk


    This is a non-existent individual. Behind this screen is a group of ideological warfare. All the nonsense and all the lies that the Ukrainian media then pick up comes from this group.
  47. JVN
    JVN April 9 2014 07: 56
    0
    In all cities it’s necessary, then Kiev will definitely not have enough mercenaries
  48. fregina1
    fregina1 April 9 2014 08: 46
    0
    Well, what are there for 50 people who type left the SBU building? Guys What is the real picture?