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Sergey Lavrov: South and east of the country should be represented at the multilateral negotiations on Ukraine

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Moscow is ready for a four-sided meeting, which will be held in the format of RF-US-EU-Ukraine, to discuss the situation in the country. At the same time, the minister noted that the dialogue will be full-fledged only when Kiev recognizes the demands of the south-east of the country.


Russia is ready for contacts on the Ukrainian issue, which will be held in the format of the RF-US-EU-Ukraine. This was stated by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov at a press conference following a meeting with Angolan Foreign Minister Georges Rebel Pinto Chikoti. At the same time, the Russian minister noted that the exact date of the talks has not yet been determined, but it is possible that they will take place within the next ten days.

According to the head of Russian diplomacy, first of all you need to decide who will represent Ukraine. Sergei Lavrov noted that official Moscow is not moving away from a dialogue with the new authorities of Kiev. He also added that communication will be productive only when Kiev recognizes the requirements of the south-east of the country.

Regarding the statement by Jennifer Psaki that Russia was involved in the unrest in the south-east of Ukraine, Lavrov noted that in this case, the West is transferring the problem "from a sore head to a healthy one" and "trying on its habits with others."

Returning to the heated situation in the south-east of Ukraine, Lavrov noted that the new Kiev authorities have not done anything yet to calm the unrest in this region of the country. The head of Russian diplomacy also noted that a representative of the south-eastern regions of Ukraine must be present at the meeting in the quadrilateral format. Speaking about the representation of these regions of Ukraine, Lavrov stressed that candidates for the presidency of Ukraine should also participate in the negotiations.

In addition, Lavrov expressed bewilderment about the fact that constitutional reform in Ukraine is going on in secret, no information about what exactly is included in the draft is not received.

“I tried to get relevant explanations from Andrei Deshchitsa, when we talked to him in the Hague on the margins of the Nuclear Security Summit, I tried to get explanations from John Kerry, given that the Americans are involved in the process of preparing the new Constitution Ukraine through its influence on the current leaders in Kiev. We have not received a clear explanation. We only hear from Mr. Yatsenyuk, or Mr. Turchinov, that there will be no federalization, but will give some new powers to the regions. But this is a “down view” approach: if you are really ready to give powers to the regions, then invite the regions, sit down with them, hear what they say, and then begin negotiations, ”Lavrov said.
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  1. fregina1
    fregina1 April 8 2014 15: 02
    +1
    Must but will not! There will be no negotiations yet! The guns will speak soon! The time for diplomats has not yet arrived (for some) and has already gone for others!
    1. avg
      avg April 8 2014 15: 06
      +5
      Quote: fregina1
      Must but will not! There will be no negotiations yet! Soon the guns will speak!

      Anyway, after the guns there will be negotiations.
      Everyone must do their job. And I would not mind if our guns, if necessary, did their job as well as Lavrov does his.
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 April 8 2014 15: 25
        +1
        Quote: avg
        if our guns, if necessary, did their job as well as Lavrov does his.

        It would be even better if the guns were not used at all, and it all ended to everyone’s pleasure through the efforts of only Lavrov and his department. Unfortunately, in these conditions, this is unrealistic.
      2. maks-101
        maks-101 April 8 2014 18: 07
        +1
        Anyway, after the guns there will be negotiations.
        Everyone must do their job. And I would not mind if our guns, if necessary, did their job as well as Lavrov does his.
        understand in Ukraine there are no people who decide for themselves they look into the mouth of the usa, as the usa says so and will be, war is war, but we will fight from the usa.
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    3. Vladimir.z.
      Vladimir.z. April 8 2014 15: 08
      +4
      Negotiating with the current government of Ukraine - this means its actual recognition and this will be in the hands of the United States .... We just need to watch how our Russian leadership behaves ... hi
      1. ed65b
        ed65b April 8 2014 15: 54
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir.z.
        Negotiating with the current government of Ukraine - this means its actual recognition and this will be in the hands of the United States .... We just need to watch how our Russian leadership behaves ... hi

        laurels diplomat, he is obliged to negotiate this is his work and he does it brilliantly.
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    5. avt
      avt April 8 2014 15: 14
      +11
      Quote: fregina1
      There will be no negotiations yet! The guns will speak soon! The time for diplomats has not yet arrived (for some) and has already gone for others!

      Do not smack nonsense! Negotiations ALWAYS go on, even during the war there is a probe through intermediaries, and now God himself has commanded. Lavrov clearly bends the line. But from the latest news from Donetsk, they persuaded, under the influence of Akhmetov, to hand over weapons and clean the SBU building. This was not a planned, long-term takeover of power, but a spontaneous action without a clear plan of action and a centralized leadership. Well, well ... if you pulled polite people ??? Draw Russia into a harlot under the cries of defending the Russians with sad consequences for the same Russians? The situation is not ripe in the Crimea and in the East and South for such actions as in Crimea. Like it or not, but this is a real fact, given the feeling.
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      2. asadov
        asadov April 8 2014 17: 42
        +2
        I agree. First, it is necessary for the South and the East to decide what they want and finally find their leader. In the meantime, it looks like a kitchen talk.
      3. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 8 2014 18: 22
        +2
        Quote: avt
        The situation is not ripe as in Crimea in the East and South for such as in the Crimea to carry out specific actions. Like it or not, but this is a real fact, given the feeling.

        And it will not mature - the government is not religious, the activists from the population have support, but there is also opposition from the junta and its henchmen. "Mattress makers" are doing their best in the political arena, the EU - there too ...
        The line of southeastern Ukraine towards "federalization" has already been marked. Lavrov and the Foreign Ministry are working hard in this direction.
        Any military confrontation in Donetsk or Lugansk threatens with provocation with "mummers".
        1. avt
          avt April 8 2014 18: 47
          +1
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          but there is also opposition from the junta and its henchmen. "Mattress makers" are doing their best in the political arena,

          Yes, but their resource is very, very limited.
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          And it will not ripen - power is illegitimate, activists have support from the population,

          Yes, that's the trouble and the shells are there - support from the population, but there are no fighters - there is not even a closely organized combat structure, which has already been discussed here many times. Instead of creating a fighting party of like-minded people like the Bolsheviks in 1917, there were cavalry attacks on administrative buildings. A complete analogy with the 93rd in Moscow, when the people's deputies elected Rutskoi president by candlelight and sang songs about the Black Crow. But EBoN always very clearly tracked attempts to take his throne in the Kremlin, quickly made a bloody decision and nipped in the bud. In Ukraine, a stalemate Kiev Maydaina wants, but cannot, the East and South can, but does not know how, that does not want to be akin like Hepa.
    6. Sterlya
      Sterlya April 8 2014 15: 15
      +1
      I agree. there will be no negotiations. This is not wanted by the gay men, led by the United States. ovaries, led by them.
      1. andrewvlg
        andrewvlg April 8 2014 15: 59
        0
        Quote: Sterlya
        I agree. there will be no negotiations. This is not wanted by the gay men, led by the United States. ovaries, led by them.

        Haha Just Yaytsenyuk with his curators from the United States only dreams of negotiations with the Russian Federation. Here you can bargain a lot, and, most importantly, legalize your power. And Yatsenyuk can’t lose anything. Is not it so? They will talk to him about federalization, the Russian state, and he will bargain and promise. Promises to fulfill are optional.
        1. Sterlya
          Sterlya April 8 2014 16: 31
          0
          Quote: andrewvlg
          Haha Just Yaytsenyuk with his curators from the United States only dreams of negotiations with the Russian Federation. Here you can bargain a lot, and, most importantly, legalize your power. And Yatsenyuk can’t lose anything. Is not it so? They will talk to him about federalization, the Russian state, and he will bargain and promise. Promises to fulfill are optional.

          I meant full negotiations. to this topic.
          and they can want a lot of things
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    8. Siberian19
      Siberian19 April 8 2014 15: 30
      +1
      SBU is the CIA
    9. atalef
      atalef April 8 2014 16: 00
      -2
      Quote: fregina1
      Must but will not! There will be no negotiations yet! The guns will speak soon! The time for diplomats has not yet arrived (for some) and has already gone for others!

      Negotiations will be. Russia wants federalization - of course, neither Ukraine nor the States or the EU wants this.
      In general, in this situation, Ukraine will not allow this (and indeed the Russian Federation does not have the right to demand this) for the simple reason that Ukraine is a unitary and not a federal state, the admission of regions to participate in these negotiations formally recognizes regions as separate entities.
      Who will allow it? What legal basis for this is in Ukraine?
      Therefore this will not be
      1. Barsik
        Barsik April 9 2014 00: 31
        0
        In general, in this situation, Ukraine will not allow this (and indeed the Russian Federation does not have the right to demand this) for the simple reason that Ukraine is a unitary and not a federal state, the admission of regions to participate in these negotiations formally recognizes regions as separate entities.
        Who will allow it? What legal basis for this is in Ukraine?
        Therefore this will not be

        But the hell we put on the opinion of geyropov and mattresses am Russians do not abandon their soldier
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    11. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 8 2014 16: 10
      +1
      Maybe not in the subject but here's what they write

      LUGANSK !!! URGENT !!! MAXIMUM REPOST !!!
      MAY BE SUFFERED AND KILL PEOPLE!

      Updated: The assault on the Lugansk SBU has begun. Use water cannons, smoke bombs.
      Attention, let everyone know !!

      By order of the new Kiev authorities, tanks are going to Lugansk.

      - People are inflated. Lugansk people require a referendum on self-determination. Negotiations with representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs were difficult. Now we have received information that six tanks and soldiers of the national guard are going to Lugansk. We do not intend to retreat. Only referendum! - says the activist.

      #Lugansk # Ukraine # South Front
      1. I read the news
        I read the news April 8 2014 16: 15
        0
        Are tanks going to Lugansk? Army?
      2. Coffee_time
        Coffee_time April 8 2014 16: 22
        +1
        Kharkov - not delivered !!!! (OPTIONAL)

        Friends!!! EVERYTHING that is said about the surrender of KHARKOV - DESA!

        ACTIVISTS IN THE BIG PART left the building the day before. They knew about the planned capture and decided to leave so that no one was hurt. They had no weapons. Therefore, Kharkov - not delivered !!!!
        Police of Kharkov and Kharkov region with the people! From the whole Kharkov region at the moment militia units are gathering for reinforcements! Do not believe all the media, the news is 100% - they cut off my phone in the morning to refute what they write!
        Those who were allegedly arrested during the capture - generally civilians - were snatched from the crowd!
        BUT YOU SHOULD HELP YOUR FRIENDS !!!! DO NOT drop them - they need any help !!!!

        The building of the Regional State Administration in Kharkov was seized by militants of the "Right Sector", UNA-UNSO, as well as fighters of the National Guard. Now in the building there are people with "Right Sector" stripes, UNA-UNSO, as well as soldiers of the National Guard. In addition, soldiers of the Jaguar unit remain in the Regional State Administration, whose main specialization is the suppression of internal uprisings.

        Freedom Square itself is blocked by local police. Activists of Anti-Maidan reported that 70 of their like-minded people disappeared, most likely they were detained and are in the local police department.

        Please note that there are almost no streams, nowhere is there a video about how the RSA is captured and how people are taken out !, that the junta spread lies yesterday and that the MOST video from RT news is without comment and taken from some Internet user !!! THIS is misleading people! I beg you, raise the threshold of your critical thinking! DO NOT BELIEVE THEM!

        PS
        The JUNT en masse calls on people in Kharkov - even the elderly. Those who refuse - are offered to sign a receipt, are threatened that they will then be held accountable. DO NOT sign anything !!!

        Doesn’t remind you anything ?! The junta is afraid !!!

        DO NOT BE AFRAID! REFUSE!

        STREAM (morning recording) http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/45896576
  2. Monk
    Monk April 8 2014 15: 02
    +7
    What can be negotiations with fascists? Destroy.
    1. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 8 2014 15: 59
      0
      Here it is - the face of democracy
  3. Pharao7766
    Pharao7766 April 8 2014 15: 07
    +3
    Well mattresses are famous masters to write constitutions!
    Here they and local Judah to help ...
    Russia, too, still hasn't gotten rid of that "constitution" that they helped us to grant ...
  4. Balalaikin
    Balalaikin April 8 2014 15: 11
    +8
    They have already held some negotiations with Yanukovych, even signed a contract - and what is the result ??? Either fulfillment of a previously signed contract, or no new negotiations and contracts ...
  5. Arhj
    Arhj April 8 2014 15: 13
    +4
    Lavrov usually just says nothing. As I understand it, the issue of negotiations has already been resolved, as the participants in the game begin to run out of steam. The quadripartite format of negotiations suggests that no one is seriously considering the Ukrainian authorities. The fate of Ukraine will be decided by the powers that be, and the so-called the government of Ukraine is invited only to keep up appearances.
    Note that three months ago Russia was not invited to negotiations. We needed it now, when the hut is burning and threatens to bury the arsonists under it.
  6. konvalval
    konvalval April 8 2014 15: 18
    +3
    If they do not include the South-East in the negotiation process, then they de facto recognize that it is not Ukrainian. So you need to regard this fact.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 April 8 2014 15: 29
      +1
      Quote: konvalval
      then they de facto recognize that he is not Ukrainian. So you need to regard this fact.

      Yes, you, my friend, casuist and Jesuit. Isn’t Agent Francis 1 the Hour? laughing
      This is how our Western friends are negotiating for the most part. They didn’t say there, they lied, in another place they embellished or distorted the picture - and now they are all in white, and opponents are in waste products.
  7. moremansf
    moremansf April 8 2014 15: 21
    +1
    Time will tell...
  8. Sergg
    Sergg April 8 2014 15: 22
    +1
    I think that there is no naive: these negotiations are meaningless, do not agree with the enemies, they destroy the enemies, unless of course they surrendered.

    Russia needs these negotiations since we are pulling time again, just like in Syria in September 2013, our army has not yet finished rearmament and it is too early to enter the great war of Russia.
    1. KAPITANUS
      KAPITANUS April 8 2014 15: 31
      +2
      The main thing is not to waste time!
    2. sniper
      sniper April 8 2014 16: 58
      0
      Quote: Sergg
      and it’s too early to enter the great war of Russia.

      Sergei, why are you in such a hurry to fight in the "big war" ??? Russia does not need a war, neither big nor small ... Russians are a peaceful people, another thing is that we will not allow ourselves to offend, but we do not need war ...
  9. Luga
    Luga April 8 2014 15: 33
    +2
    I have said it more than once, and I will repeat it again — we live in an interesting time, comrades! These dogs are cuddly dogs with their approaches, but in Russia we have enough knives for everyone. laughing
    Mattress makers, in fact, quite rudely and defiantly demand from Russia the recognition of the new Ukrainian government "de facto" by entering into negotiations with them. "Fuck you" - Comrade says to them. Lavrov, we will enter into negotiations with the current government only after it does what Russia demands of it, that is, it splits up, transferring part of its powers to the opposition regions.
    From the point of view of diplomacy, it seems to me that this is a good move - we are not refusing negotiations, we maintain our positions on the current government in Ukraine.
    I especially liked the passage that Lavrov was forced to consult with Kerry about the constitutional reform in Ukraine "given that the Americans are most closely involved, as far as I understand, in the process of preparing the new Constitution of Ukraine through their influence on the current leaders in Kiev." Well done, do not forget to counterattack, not only parry blows.
    Under such conditions, of course, there will be no negotiations. In general, they were needed to Amers only in order to seat the Maidan people with ours at the same table, at the head of which Kerry would sit. The fact itself was important. Do not be fooled. They answered. Well done.
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  10. brainkiller
    brainkiller April 8 2014 15: 40
    0
    Russia in its history has never been ready for a big war =)
    I believe these negotiations need to be done urgently by Lavrov, because there is a risk that the current will in the southeast can be suppressed. And then the question of federalization will be completely ruined.
  11. leon17
    leon17 April 8 2014 15: 44
    0
    Notice in the format of negotiations of the Russian Federation in 1 place?
  12. mamont5
    mamont5 April 8 2014 15: 51
    0
    Again the West, the USA and Ukrainians are preparing to push their interpretation of events. Diplomats for the battle. And then the guns will start to shoot.
    1. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 8 2014 16: 04
      0
      Churkin is already sharpening a diplomatic ax
  13. Rubmolot
    Rubmolot April 8 2014 16: 00
    +1
    Maybe not the topic ...,
    but the American exporters of Truth and Love should have arranged a "USMaidan of the struggle for human rights" on their close continent.
    Maybe "Ukraine" is a new computer game for them. Controlling fire on a computer is not as scary as flowing in front of it for real.
  14. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 8 2014 16: 25
    0
    . Mean it was not a planned, long-term seizure of power, but a spontaneous action without a clear plan of action and a centralized leadership. Well and h .. if you pulled polite people then ??? Draw Russia into a harlot under the cries of defending the Russians with sad consequences for the same Russians? The situation is not ripe in the Crimea and in the East and South for such actions as in Crimea. Like it or not, but this is a real fact, given the feeling.
    I agree. It’s easy to start a war, but it’s difficult to end, How revenge is easy to start and revenge rapturously, Until everything is young and old ... We must trust the professionals !! I think the competence of Lavrov and Chirkin has no doubt!
  15. loroleg74
    loroleg74 April 8 2014 16: 27
    0
    The first question is whether Russia recognized the so-called new authorities?
    The second question - Russia forgot what are the signed agreements with the so-called new government?
    If the answers are in the affirmative, then there’s nothing more to say about Russia, as soon as ordered to immediately leave the Crimea.
    If the answers are no, then the negotiations are not trilateral, but trilateral. Representatives of the territories of Ukraine are present as observers and the subject of negotiations is the size of the free financial assistance to Russia in the arrangement of newly joined territories, the restoration of industry, agriculture and reinforced concrete guarantees not interference in the internal affairs of Russia.
  16. Leopold
    Leopold April 8 2014 16: 29
    +1
    The US has always seen negotiation processes as a weakness or a way to consolidate its successes. However, now it is really not clear what SE of Ukraine wants. Maybe there most just like the new government? And if not, then why did they profound Kharkov?
    They probably go to work, although they do not receive salaries, in the expectation that everything will settle down. But it can settle down, only then they will howl even more.
  17. razved
    razved April 8 2014 16: 33
    0
    We must continue to exert diplomatic pressure at all international venues (because water does not flow under a lying stone). I think everything will work out ...
  18. kelevra
    kelevra April 8 2014 17: 14
    0
    With Lavrov, we can achieve our requirements and suggestions!
  19. Santor
    Santor April 8 2014 17: 44
    +2
    Quote: fregina1
    Must but will not! There will be no negotiations yet! The guns will speak soon! The time for diplomats has not yet arrived (for some) and has already gone for others!

    Quote: avg
    Everyone must do their job. And I would not mind if our guns, if necessary, did their job as well as Lavrov does his.


    Boys, are you kitchen ministers of all defenses and attacks, marshals of computer mice, or are they essentially provocateurs?
    What guns? What what? Do not go where you absolutely do not understand anything ... Guns and fists are the argument of stupid and limited people whom life has not taught literacy and the ability to firmly and demandingly denote and defend their opinions.

    In fact, those who write such posts are likened to the boys from the Svoboda party, who, as the last, rush against any word they say with their fists.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 8 2014 17: 49
      +1
      Quote: Santor
      In fact, those who write such posts are likened to the boys from the Svoboda party, who, as the last, rush against any word they say with their fists.

      Victor...
      Guys are the same children, only with adult toys .... laughing
  20. NPogZ
    NPogZ April 8 2014 17: 54
    +1
    The US position has always been amazed at the establishment of democratic regimes on another continent ...
    From the point of view of international law, the USA in the negotiations regarding Ukraine has absolutely nothing to do with what? (the position of international law should not be the subject of negotiations, since the object of negotiations in no way concerns them) ...
    Let's call for negotiations NICARAGUA then ...
  21. Santor
    Santor April 8 2014 18: 15
    +1
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Victor...
    Guys are the same children, only with adult toys ....


    Only they don’t know that because of such toys blood spills ... I have seen enough of it, mainly because of the stupidity of politicians and the inability or unwillingness to negotiate.
  22. sv68
    sv68 April 8 2014 18: 20
    0
    negotiations — an attempt to take time so that you can spoil your opponent — or you’ll get offended by the kam as luck. but when you are negotiating with America — I learned the bitter experience — I’m only ready to listen to lies under any sauce — but stand your ground
  23. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. April 8 2014 19: 30
    0
    Quote: fregina1
    Must but will not! There will be no negotiations yet! The guns will speak soon! The time for diplomats has not yet arrived (for some) and has already gone for others!

    Hardly...
    The proclamation of the Donetsk People's Republic seems to frighten the oligarchs ... and they pressured the Don ...
    Putin think that the most important is class oligarchic solidarity, or popular aspirations.
    If we now proclaim a course towards the reconstruction of the USSR, the support of the people will be in all countries of the former USSR. Even in the Baltics, many will support.

    And donors need to be supported urgently.
    Polite wake up!