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The defeat in the prosecutor's office of Mariupol turned the case of an attempt to capture

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The defeat in the prosecutor's office of Mariupol turned the case of an attempt to capture

In the Ukrainian city of Mariupol, the main industrial center of the Donetsk region, after the arrest of the “people's mayor” Dmitry Kuzmenko, a noisy protest rally took place, which turned into broken windows in the city council and prosecutor’s office and attempted to seize state buildings.


On Saturday afternoon, a group of individuals held an unauthorized rally outside the building of the prosecutor's office of the city of Mariupol. “Roughly violating public order, the protesters broke into the building of the prosecutor’s office and demanded a meeting with the leadership of the department to detain on the eve of the self-proclaimed mayor of the city. At the same time, they could not clearly formulate their demands,” the prosecutor’s office quoted.

LifeNews reports that Dmitry Kuzmenko was detained by law enforcement officers on Saturday night.

Ukrainian service News TSN previously reported that Dmitry Kuzmenko is on his own recognizance. He was sentenced to 8 years in prison for extortion - he demanded money from local entrepreneurs. And he was released because the lawyers appealed the verdict.

According to the city site 0629.com.ua, the protesters - about 200 people - came first to the building of the prosecutor's office, where they tried to find a prosecutor. Mariupol’s head of police, Sergei Gorulko, went out to the protesters, saying that Kuzmenko had been sent to Kiev.

Then the crowd moved to the City Council, there was smashed the windows and the door, there was a scuffle. No injuries reported.

The prosecutor's office announced the start of an investigation in connection with an attempt to seize the prosecutor's office of Mariupol, the case was initiated under the article "riots".
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  1. major071
    major071 April 6 2014 08: 50
    +51
    the case was initiated under the article "riots".

    The case must be brought in Kiev last year, when the Maidan began. There really were MASS riots. What power, what the prosecutor’s office - corrupt twa.ri! am
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 6 2014 09: 36
      +11
      Quote: major071
      What power, what the prosecutor’s office - corrupt twa.ri!

      The "usurpers" simply have more willpower than Yanukovych ... As in that film - in their place he had to act ...
    2. Tersky
      Tersky April 6 2014 09: 42
      +12
      Quote: major071
      The case must be brought in Kiev last year, when the Maidan began.

      And it should have looked something like this:
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 6 2014 11: 29
        +1
        Quote: Tersky
        And it should have looked something like this:

        good
      2. builder
        builder April 6 2014 15: 53
        +3
        Sorry girl
    3. W1950
      W1950 April 6 2014 10: 03
      +1
      It is corrupt in our country, but there is no word about theirs.
    4. brelok
      brelok April 6 2014 12: 22
      +7
      But only a comment popped up on the AUNN: "Berkutovites in the number of 100 people by force took one of the regional departments of Kiev and are holding a defense there. The Right Sector is preparing to storm the building. The barricaded people are calling Berkut employees from other regions with requests for help. East, get up! They won't come out of there alive ... "They all made up their minds?
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. April 6 2014 13: 40
        +5
        I looked at our channels - no one shows this in real time.
        But the Maidan was broadcast live on "Russia 24".

        This is disgrace and failure by journalists to fulfill their civic duty.

        It is necessary for media leaders to demand direct full participation in the information war and encourage journalists to consider themselves mobilized by military journalists who work in the interests and under state control.
        1. Little Muck
          Little Muck April 6 2014 13: 42
          0
          Nothing will happen. And why, wrote earlier in the comments. Read, maybe I'm mistaken, but so far it looks that way.
        2. Koresh
          Koresh April 6 2014 14: 51
          +3
          There are online Internet translations, you can watch them ... Journalists are not allowed to enter the border by border guards, and therefore they may not be shown.
      2. Sandov
        Sandov April 6 2014 19: 09
        +4
        Quote: brelok
        But only a comment popped up on the AUNN: "Berkutovites in the number of 100 people by force took one of the regional departments of Kiev and are holding a defense there. The Right Sector is preparing to storm the building. The barricaded people are calling Berkut employees from other regions with requests for help. East, get up! They won't come out of there alive ... "They all made up their minds?

        The people woke up. Bunches of anger will destroy Amer’s banderlogs. Freedom to Ukraine.

        Yankees go home.
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 April 6 2014 19: 16
          +5
          Quote: Sandov
          The people woke up. G
          Kharkov. Prisoners of the right sector.
          Donetsk
          In Lugansk Rada and SBU are captured.

          In Kiev, employees of the "Golden Eagle" seized the district police department and barricaded themselves inside
          1. Koresh
            Koresh April 6 2014 19: 52
            +5
            Now that's what happens
            In Donetsk, they demand an urgent convocation of a session of the regional council and a referendum on joining the Russian Federation. The protesters have set the hour "x" - until midnight.
            Kharkiv
            In Kharkov, clashes occurred between the participants of the Euromaidan and the rally for federalization
            In Lugansk
            In Lugansk, protesters seized the SBU. There are people injured.
            Very troubled right now in the Southeast ...
            1. Kot bazilio
              Kot bazilio April 6 2014 23: 42
              0
              Infa from an adequate site: http://dnews.donetsk.ua/news/community/2014/04/06/23868.html

              Pay attention to the faces of the police. And in front of them - the very terry separatists am

              From inadequate ("increased Svidomo"): http: //gazeta.ua/ru/articles/regions/_agressivnye-separatisty-
              prodolzhayut-iskat-v-donecke-banderovcev / 551064 - Just amazing ravings !!! This is not even a diagnosis, but the state of the cerebellum (neither an autopsy nor a tomogram of the presence of the brain will confirm).
          2. Chikua
            Chikua April 7 2014 01: 05
            +2
            Appeal of the Lugansk Guard from the building of the SBU
    5. maks-101
      maks-101 April 6 2014 15: 09
      +7
      banderlog came to rob the poor people, who have robbed the powers that be for 23 years. Guys, you have one way out. This is the weapon of the proletariat AK47 or AK74. You have no other way out. Take your weapon and go, that's the only way you will achieve justice.
  2. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 6 2014 08: 51
    +13
    And where was the prosecutor's office of Ukraine at the end of February?
    1. thrower
      thrower April 6 2014 09: 29
      +6
      In February, they were afraid to work because of Sashko Biloy, Ukraine urgently needs a new educator for prosecutors.
    2. Tersky
      Tersky April 6 2014 09: 52
      +5
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      And where was the prosecutor's office of Ukraine at the end of February?

      Well, well, even there was an area ... wassat
  3. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov April 6 2014 08: 55
    +7
    And what is the point of seizing the prosecutor's office - it is illegal.
    Out of law, all law enforcement and law enforcement agencies.
    From this, one should proceed, and when trying to arrest, provide armed resistance to illegal organs.
    1. infinite silence ...
      infinite silence ... April 6 2014 09: 18
      +21
      There the whole country is OUTSIDE the law!
      Any action. Any dissent entails punishment.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 6 2014 11: 31
        +5
        Quote: infinite silence ...
        There the whole country is OUTSIDE the law!
        Any action. Any dissent entails punishment.

        In the late 80s, the film "El Salvador" was shown on the screens of the USSR.
        Death Squads rule ...
      2. Koresh
        Koresh April 6 2014 14: 52
        +4
        Everything is called ... back to the dashing 90s.
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    3. Gennady1973
      Gennady1973 April 6 2014 09: 33
      +11
      Ivan Tarasov. I agree with you. Why just do the prosecutor's office, police, etc., if the gangs of "Sektor" go with weapons and do what they want?
      1. I read the news
        I read the news April 6 2014 10: 38
        +9
        You say that as if without bandits from the sector, the rule of law and constitutional order will come in the country. The power in the country is captured by mattresses, and you (and us) are being distracted by some bandits from this.
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        2. Gennady1973
          Gennady1973 April 6 2014 11: 26
          +1
          You are right to the utmost. But neither the prosecutor’s office has real police power.
        3. infinite silence ...
          infinite silence ... April 6 2014 11: 29
          +22
          MI’s means compared Putin with Hitler ... This idea is being imposed on the inhabitants of Ukraine.
          You would worry about your own good And then they with their cognitive dissonance in a deep stupor ...
    4. Signaller
      Signaller April 6 2014 15: 09
      +3
      I join completely. Only a couple of corpses of these siloviki, when capturing a witness or the accused, will sober them all clean. What is the law ??? He is not there. So all actions to suppress illegal actions should be qualified as a legitimate defense of honor, dignity and life ..
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  4. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF April 6 2014 08: 55
    +22
    Industrial Mariupol is great, but my Berdyansk is too worried about comfort and paving stones. The city is a resort, his mother. Soon Bandera will bring the country to a pen, there will be no work, then miners, car builders, metallurgists will go out to play. They are somehow not polite when, because of some goats, they have nothing to eat for their children.
    1. Afinogen
      Afinogen April 6 2014 09: 26
      +5
      Quote: FC Skif
      Soon Bandera will bring the country to a pen, there will be no work, then miners, car builders, metallurgists will go out to play. They are somehow not polite when, because of some goats, they have nothing to eat for their children.


      That's for sure, only it’s bad that they expect the extreme when
      there will be no work when prices soar at all, when there is nothing to be. It is clear that this will come very soon.
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic April 6 2014 13: 14
      +10
      Quote: FC Skif
      Industrial Mariupol is great, but my Berdyansk is too worried about comfort and paving stones. The city is a resort, his mother. Soon Bandera will bring the country to a pen, there will be no work, then miners, car builders, metallurgists will go out to play. They are somehow not polite when, because of some goats, they have nothing to eat for their children.


      Probably, in order for the business to get off the ground, the people should starve and become brutal ... If in the 90s many had the hope that "shock therapy" would lead to the prosperous prosperity in the end, you just need to be patient and fit into the market, now in Ukraine, everything is going in a new circle or, rather, along a conical spiral with a point of bifurcation and the final collapse of the country into parts. Soon the patriotic frenzy will subside and from the "external threat of occupation" cultivated by the American media, they will begin to look for the guilty in the next reversal. In principle, this has already become a tradition, the spiral continues to turn ... every ten years the people and Yulia Tymoshenko come to power.
      1. sniper
        sniper April 6 2014 15: 43
        +4
        Quote: Ascetic
        , in order for the business to move off the ground, people must starve and go wild ..

        I’m afraid that the number of migrant workers will simply increase ... Mothers from Russia will carry mother’s and crib ...
    3. mihasik
      mihasik April 6 2014 15: 09
      +7
      Soon Bandera will bring the country to a pen, there will be no work, then miners, car builders, metallurgists will go out to play. They are somehow not polite when, because of some goats, they have nothing to eat for their children.

      When they leave it will be too late, they will deliver them with machine guns into the same mines in a place with families and blow them up. Not a legitimate authority, not a legitimate authority; for some reason, the same miners are turning to restore order to this very not legitimate authority! Absurd!? After the presidential election, everything will be legitimate!)) Wait!
  5. parus2nik
    parus2nik April 6 2014 08: 59
    +20
    Roughly disturbing public order
    On the Maidan, public order was disturbed politely ...
  6. ilya_82
    ilya_82 April 6 2014 09: 01
    +10
    It seems that only hunger will push Ukrainians to mass protest
  7. Rus62
    Rus62 April 6 2014 09: 11
    +3
    Is the people of the southeast waking up?
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 6 2014 09: 38
      +4
      Quote: Rus62
      Is the people of the southeast waking up?

      The ghost of hunger "wakes up" ....
      1. starhina01
        starhina01 April 6 2014 12: 25
        +2
        like in Ukraine a lot of mayda.nu.tyh shouted about the famine what what will they say now? request when there is really nothing to eat fool
      2. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... April 6 2014 13: 35
        +4


        Your words yes to God in your ears!
        1. Belarus
          Belarus April 6 2014 16: 13
          +4
          Some strange people with machine guns in the video. They are not like polite people.
          But, interestingly, when they ran up and looked, they immediately carried off their legs quickly. Most likely it or mercenaries or personal army any og. oligarch.
        2. Sandov
          Sandov April 6 2014 19: 15
          +4
          Quote: infinite silence ...
          Your words yes to God in your ears!

          Amer mercenaries run through the streets, could we ever think of this. Survived ...

          Yankees go home.
        3. Mikros
          Mikros April 6 2014 20: 59
          0
          The video horseradish is a sign of how old. Then they said that they were mercenaries. And it seems like Donetsk was not mentioned.
    2. avt
      avt April 6 2014 09: 44
      +22
      Quote: Rus62
      Is the people of the southeast waking up?

      Yes, he woke up a long time ago! BUT! Thrown to the mercy of the Kiev Maydauns who woke up after the first mass protests without a centralized, like Crimea, leadership, in fact betrayed by the “Party of Regions.” This is just a Brownian movement of indignant people without a clear and specific purpose and organization. They are slowly pulled out one by one and will be here so planned to harass to complete exhaustion, completely with impunity. URGENTLY need to rebuild! Yesterday! It is necessary to put forward ECONOMIC requirements - to mirror the Maydaunny idea about the European association, where the main message was the pursuit of a better share in Europe. To create and use the existing trade union cells, where necessary - to reformat for themselves by their own people, using the current legislation, then strike committees and mutual aid funds, which, with their competent and successful deployment, can be simply transferred to power structures. What actually Chaly did with the support of the townspeople in Sevastopol. This will give at least some kind of protection against indictment of ,, separatism and mass riots "and de jure organizes a protest in the legitimate, legal forms of Ukrainian legislation. And of course a strike on the oligarch's pocket with a strike. But nevertheless, their leaders, whom they trust and follow, must be protected by all means, from creating a hut in Razliv. , before real, physical and armed resistance to arrest.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch April 6 2014 17: 09
        +3
        Ready-made manual for the revolutionary struggle. Propagate and distribute ... dot. The armored car doesn’t hurt ... tchk. good
    3. aleks77
      aleks77 April 6 2014 17: 40
      +2
      Quote: Rus62
      Is the people of the southeast waking up?

      No, in a dream he choked.
  8. sovetskyturist
    sovetskyturist April 6 2014 09: 15
    +10
    held an unauthorized meeting near the building of the prosecutor's office of the city of Mariupol. "Grossly violating public order ......... Odnako poka miting bez toporov i koktejlej molotova flagov EU to nelzja.A MAJDAUN kotoryj v finale prevratilsja v zboriste Pridurkov-bej-mos .... lej.Naselenije goroda navernoje ne SVIDOME da i ne bylo u nich portretov mini-gebbelsa s soboj am
  9. Sharky
    Sharky April 6 2014 09: 30
    +4
    The man in the photo with the Dutch flag upside down on his chest immediately catches your eye! Visible mood against Geyropa !!! Keep it up!!! good
    1. SSR
      SSR April 6 2014 09: 55
      +1
      Quote: Sharky
      The man in the photo with the Dutch flag upside down on his chest immediately catches your eye! Visible mood against Geyropa !!! Keep it up!!! good

      laughing Sorry, but I will disappoint you, he just has such a jacket and putting on it he did not try to make it clear to the gay people about his attitude against them, but the ribbons on his hands should mean something. The phone does not allow to consider in more detail ((((((
    2. Ilotan
      Ilotan April 6 2014 11: 23
      +4
      The colors of the patriarch’s vestments are reminiscent of the flag of Ichkeria. Well, now what, will we accuse him of having links with the militants?
  10. ALEXXX1983
    ALEXXX1983 April 6 2014 09: 32
    +7
    Quote: major071
    The case must be brought in Kiev last year, when the Maidan began.

    Well, what are you - everything was peaceful on the Maidan - peaceful capture, peaceful pogroms and killings No.
    And no one was hurt in Mariupol - a crime on the face request
  11. prophet
    prophet April 6 2014 09: 36
    +1
    Quote: Rus62
    Is the people of the southeast waking up?

    after hibernation I want to eat, look, but NOTHING
  12. StolzSS
    StolzSS April 6 2014 09: 43
    0
    I’ll ask Natasha what’s going on there)
  13. vezunchik
    vezunchik April 6 2014 09: 53
    +15
    Donbass. More than a month of peaceful rallies, what is the result?

    For more than a month, mass rallies have been held in Donetsk against the Kiev junta. From March 1 to today, residents of the Donetsk region come to rallies in their cities and come to the city of Donetsk.

    Starting from March 1, 2014, in Donetsk, they seized the regional administration twice, twice the SBU building, once the prosecutor’s office, blocked the railway tracks. Constant processions along the main streets of the city, clashes with the Euromaidanites and Bandera, wounded, dead. In frost, in rain, people come to Sq. Lenin, to make the authorities hear them.

    In more than a month, what have people achieved at rallies?

    To be honest, nothing.

    There is no referendum, the oligarch Taruta does what he wants, no one hears the opinion of the inhabitants of Donbass. The authority appointed by Kiev is doing its job, ignoring people.

    The leaders of the movements — Pavel Gubarev, Robert Donya, and others — were arrested. Many active protesters were arrested and convicted. Everyone who takes an active part in rallies, even reporters and journalists, is constantly under pressure. Young children have been ruined by convictions.

    Calls of people who are at rallies are monitored, activists are monitored.

    Parties, movements behind the scenes began to work for the oligarchs to suppress protest sentiments among citizens of Donbass. Constantly there are people who are trying to take people away from their desires and goals in any way. An ordinary person can no longer understand where the enemy is, and where is the friend. It seems that there is already not a single party, not a single leader who really supports the opinion of the inhabitants of Donbass.

    The militia, which with the people, no longer remembers how their colleagues were killed, how they humiliated their employees. The leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, SBU and other law enforcement agencies did not even think that they were able to stop the lawlessness in Kiev. Let Yanukovych not want or could not, but the officer should.

    It's no secret that the police have never been held in high esteem by people in the Donbass and there are reasons for this. After the seizure of power in Kiev, residents of the east and south of Ukraine treated the police with understanding. The Golden Eagle fighters became heroes for them, you could never hear the words: “Glory to the Golden Eagle!”, “Glory to the police!”. The police had a chance to become heroes in their country, but not a single leader dared to take responsibility and stop the lawlessness to seize power and protect Donbass.


    Now they silently carry out orders, arrest their fellow countrymen, punish everyone who is objectionable to the new government. Perhaps they are still relatively restrained, but certainly they are no longer with the people, although the people are still for them
    1. Yuri Sev Caucasus
      Yuri Sev Caucasus April 6 2014 10: 02
      +7
      here it is democracy in action, totalitarianism is resting, the right to vote is absent, any dissent is punishable. Bravo of the geyropa and the United States you preach such freedom.
    2. polite people
      polite people April 6 2014 18: 10
      +1
      Truly SPECmetty - super, and the cops were goats - they remained.
    3. polite people
      polite people April 6 2014 18: 10
      0
      Truly SPECmetty - super, and the cops were goats - they remained.
  14. vezunchik
    vezunchik April 6 2014 09: 54
    +4
    At the last rallies of the party and movement with obscure slogans and the absence of any action. First, the Russian Block, now the Eastern Front. People are driven through the city streets to exhaustion, until they get tired and disperse, without offering anything sensible. Nobody calls for anything, there is no action plan, there are many empty conversations and a delay of time until May 25.

    Here is such a result of these peaceful rallies in Donetsk.

    On Saturday April 5th, another meaningless rally took place, without action, without purpose, without result. They decided to exhaust people, to repel the desire to protest, to make it clear that they will not succeed.

    Those who are capable of doing something are trying to identify and arrest or intimidate, so that the decapitated protest movement of Donbass could not withstand lawlessness in the country.

    On March 6, in Donetsk, a rally will be held again.

    People pin their hopes on this meeting, a lot depends on how it is held. Some of the protesters are already ready to give up everything if there is no real action. The March 6 rally should either give people hope and confidence, or again disappoint. Time will tell.
    1. avt
      avt April 6 2014 12: 14
      +1
      Quote: vezunchik
      People pin their hopes on this meeting, a lot depends on how it is held.

      Unfortunately, nothing will come of it. Everything will be as you yourself write.
      Quote: vezunchik
      At the last rallies of the party and movement with obscure slogans and the absence of any action. First, the Russian Block, now the Eastern Front. People are driven through the city streets to exhaustion, until they get tired and disperse, without offering anything sensible. Nobody calls for anything, there is no action plan, there are many empty conversations and a delay of time until May 25.

      Quote: vezunchik
      Those who are capable of doing something are trying to identify and arrest or intimidate, so that the decapitated protest movement of Donbass could not withstand lawlessness in the country.

      To our deepest regret, there were no people capable of organizing something, so by and large there was nothing to behead it - they just intimidate. The sad result of the betrayal of the “Party of Regions", a kind of collective Ssynukovich. It is necessary to build everything from scratch. According to the scheme of which is already here And even before, I have already said, it is necessary to switch to agitation and the creation of a new party through the trade union field with a blow to the oligarch's money. And do not forget about the agitation work with the security forces, with those who are "on the ground", and not in offices.
  15. Walk
    Walk April 6 2014 10: 00
    0
    Something came a little. Only 200 people. Or does the local police have a bad score?
  16. W1950
    W1950 April 6 2014 10: 08
    +1
    The prosecutor’s office is synonymous with corruption throughout the post-Soviet space, reinforced by power and impunity, plus mutual responsibility.
  17. ded
    ded April 6 2014 10: 25
    +15
    2034 year. Yaytsenyuh, Klitschko, Tyagni-in-Bok and Turchinov in the center of Kiev celebrate the 20th anniversary of the Maidan.

    Hto not jump - that Mascal!
  18. Little Muck
    Little Muck April 6 2014 10: 26
    -4
    We-Russia, saving the Crimea and Crimeans from the "Bender plague", gave a ghostly reason for hope for the rest of the people of Ukraine. But alas, neither spontaneous indignation, nor the creation of some underground forces will really be supported by our authorities (although we really want to be wrong).
    Please note that everything suddenly stopped (rallies in support of Ukraine and Crimea) as soon as the annexation of Crimea to Russia took place. And now our "bosses" have started so far sluggish and nothing supported (by tough actions) verbiage. Under the pretext of observance of the rule of law and human love, the Chul do not recognize the current government.
    But the matter lies in the plane of revolutionary spirit of the people. After all, if Russia really helps the indignant people of Ukraine in the fight against the aligarchy, who are snickering and have lost all reality, then in fact a new revolution will take place (all power to the people). This means a new exposition (plants and factories - to the workers, land to the peasants).
    Now remember the words of Putin (at the beginning of the unrest in the South and Southeast and the raising of the Russian flags) that he was surprised that the people saw him as a LIBERANT.
    See that no one in our elite is going to support the revolution. Because in this case, your people can follow the same scenario. And then our stolen power will simply have nowhere to run and it will simply be destroyed by the people (for all of their 23-year-old democracy). And our president (even perhaps really happy for the people, although there are questions) is simply crucified in front of a string of trains taking away to places that are not so far removed from the pack of filth that have flooded our country.
    Now our aligarh bandits are negotiating (to be honest, I would not want to be disappointed in Lavrov, although there are too many conversations) on the topic of dividing spheres of influence and possible neutrality of Ukraine in a military sense. And if they agree on neutrality, they will simply spit on the people and wipe them off. And they didn’t care about the fate of the "people's promoters". And so it will be. I am more and more convinced of this, seeing everything that happens (and on our television as well).
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 6 2014 10: 45
      +1
      You upset me sad
      1. Little Muck
        Little Muck April 6 2014 11: 35
        -3
        This is unfortunately the truth of life.
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 April 6 2014 12: 22
        +6
        Quote: I readNews
        You upset me

        The thing is different. Who specifically help? To the people? But as?
        When, at the beginning of the rallies, the people seized the administration, then it was necessary to act. Create at least some appearance of power. And then they captured, left, captured, left. Well, it doesn’t work out. You will agree with the current government. In Kiev, they don’t even pretend to talk about something, but stupidly bend their will. People in the South-East, as long as it’s impossible, bend their own. And all these rallies, without the corresponding information and political support, are an empty place. That's why they cut down Russian TV.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 6 2014 11: 41
      +5
      Quote: Little Muck
      But the matter lies in the plane of revolutionary spirit of the people. After all, if Russia really helps the indignant people of Ukraine in the fight against the aligarchy, who have snickered and lost all reality, then in fact a new revolution will take place (all power to the people).

      "If you are so smart, why don't you go in formation? ..."
      To the people of the SE, the junta applies the methods that Yanukovych refused to use on the Maidan.
      In early March, ALL juntyats spoke about the "cleansing" of Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk.
      But the regional centers of Ukraine do not have the right of autonomy, as did the Crimea. Therefore, Zhirinovsky said a month ago that the South-East can be "liberated" only when the massacre begins there. To invade the territory of a foreign state, a SERIOUS excuse is required, so the Russian Foreign Ministry began to collect complaints from residents of the SE.
      While the miners mined coal and the metallurgists smelted steel, ALIEN power appeared in Kiev.
      1. Little Muck
        Little Muck April 6 2014 11: 50
        +1
        Yes, even if there was autonomy, the Kiev junta, among the first laws, would have repealed it.
        And at the expense of walking in formation, our "democratic junta" for 23 years has long since "nailed" the people. Who was bought, who was killed (on the sly and not only), who was imprisoned, and the rest of the mass can be blown into the ears not of the insolvency of "state property" (only private, to justify the ongoing robbery of a great country and its people).
    3. avt
      avt April 6 2014 12: 05
      +3
      Quote: Little Muck
      But the matter lies in the plane of revolutionary spirit of the people.
      Again and again. Well, what's the use of a "revolutionary attitude" in the absence of an effective organization - a party capable of leading this "revolutionary attitude" and bringing it to its logical conclusion - the seizure and retention of power.
      Quote: Little Muck
      See that no one in our elite is going to support the revolution.

      WHAT revolution !!!! Spontaneous, decapitated rallies on weekends in the South East are no "revolution", and even more so
      Quote: Little Muck
      ... And they didn’t care about the fate of the "people's promoters".
      For the fate of the SELF-EXPRESSES who, in fact, could not organize themselves into more or less stable structures like the Bolsheviks after February 1917, at least those who support them, like in Crimea, should be responsible, and only then demand intervention from the outside. With what fright the Russian leadership should go to a military invasion, even if there was no change in power and social order in Afghanistan, even in Afghanistan, which is actually a revolution !?
      Quote: Little Muck
      I am more and more confident in this, seeing everything that is happening (including on our television).

      Was it boring at the “blue screen"? I wanted sharp and fried news to raise adrenaline? I wanted video reports about polite people in the East and South of Ukraine? And the consequences of Russia's rash and unprepared steps from all sides, which will directly affect ALL in Russia and those Is it not a matter of counting the inhabitants of the South-East of Ukraine? Or maybe, before stigmatizing the regime of the “vertical of the bloody gebny”, turn on the brain and compare the situation in Crimea and the South East? There is no desire to strain - well, read books about the development of events in the Empire from February 1917 to October, you see, you will understand how and by what efforts the Bolsheviks from a small, almost secret party, and the same SRs had immeasurably more influence in the country than a handful of members of the RSDLP with leadership in Switzerland, became a real force that managed to create the USSR.
      1. Little Muck
        Little Muck April 6 2014 12: 28
        0
        At the expense of "spicy" and "fried" so it is at least stupid. I am for peace and order.
        If, as the “included brain” writes, who is so well versed in the history of the creation of the USSR and its penny party, then how did this pitiful bunch defeated all evil spirits and became truly popular. It is a pity that she did not protect herself from the bastards and traitors, believing her irrepressibility, but you must always be on the alert.
        But comparing Crimea with the rest of Ukraine is not correct. We had troops there, and this, firstly, played a factor of restraint, secondly, courage and decisiveness in actions, thirdly, the miserable authorities simply got sick. That happened HAPPY PEOPLE.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 6 2014 12: 40
          +2
          Quote: Little Muck
          If, as the "included brain" writes, who is so well versed in the history of the creation of the USSR and its penny party, then how did this pitiful handful defeated all evil spirits and became truly popular.

          RSDLP used SRs and KDs as well as other temporary fellow travelers to seize power. And the local authorities held them by applying the most severe laws, the execution of which was monitored locally by harassed sailors, drop-out students, Latvian and Chinese mercenaries-thugs. Along the way, Poland and Finland "de jure" received from the Bolsheviks "nEzalEzhnost" ...
          Don't you see any analogies?
          The Bolsheviks "rallied" the people ONLY under the threat of the accomplished FOREIGN INTERVENTION of the Entente and Japan.
          Learn how to bask, materiel ...
          1. Little Muck
            Little Muck April 6 2014 12: 49
            +1
            Yes, seeing with the study of history, and also with analytics, is very bad.
            All in the style of the current authorities. Crap, slander, hang tags. And in reality, the EMPTY.
            And the fact that they were pursuing a tough policy, I think the only true. The rot and the wormhole need to be cut out so the rest of the apple is to taste. And these "numb" sailors with the populist officers who had stuck to them tore everyone and everything to smithereens.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker April 6 2014 12: 58
              +1
              Quote: Little Muck
              The rot and wormhole must be cut to the rest of the apple to taste.

              Oh-oh-oh it is like ... fellow
              And what if they write themselves into this "Rot and Wormhole"?
              Remind Germany, starting in January 1933?
              1. Little Muck
                Little Muck April 6 2014 13: 07
                0
                Unfortunately I have to agree, there were victims among the innocent. But I'm not afraid to be among the "recorded". Fear gives rise to chaos and rampant evil spirits.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker April 6 2014 13: 16
                  +4
                  Quote: Little Muck
                  Fear and creates lawlessness and rampant evil.

                  Fear is a normal human reaction to possible physical pain, death ... Only fools are not afraid.
                  Lawlessness and rampant - a consequence of non-compliance with the laws, how bad they would not have been.
                  Dura lex, sad lex
                  1. Little Muck
                    Little Muck April 6 2014 13: 30
                    0
                    This is how it happens in Ukraine. Everything is illegal. And this is what the new "power" needs. Then they will blame everything on confusion and vacillation.
                  2. Little Muck
                    Little Muck April 6 2014 13: 36
                    0
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    Fear is a normal human reaction to possible physical pain, death ... Only fools are not afraid.

                    By the way, how many fools are there in Russia: World War II, Afghanistan, the Caucasus, etc., etc.
                    So bold and courageous, not cowardly - d.u.r.a.k.?
                    Bravo flight of thought.
                    1. novobranets
                      novobranets April 6 2014 16: 24
                      +1
                      Fear and cowardice are two different things. Fear, in other words, a premonition of danger.
                  3. 11111mail.ru
                    11111mail.ru April 6 2014 13: 53
                    +1
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    Dura lex sad lex

                    Dura lex sed lex. There is no Latin word sad.
                    1. Little Muck
                      Little Muck April 6 2014 14: 09
                      0
                      And you can translate for the gifted. I could not translate it myself.
                      1. 11111mail.ru
                        11111mail.ru April 6 2014 14: 34
                        0
                        Quote: Little Muck
                        for the gifted

                        Answer: Dura Lex Sed Lex - The law is harsh but (this) is the law.
                        You are a bummer, however. There is a clipboard (select the information and Ctrl + C). There is a search line (Ctrl + V in it). Next Enter and select the desired one.
                        I personally remember only a couple of verses with the chorus "Gaudeamus Igitour".
                      2. Little Muck
                        Little Muck April 6 2014 14: 52
                        0
                        Thanks for the educational program. Deeply grateful. Quite seriously.
                  4. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker April 6 2014 14: 19
                    +1
                    Quote: 11111mail.ru
                    Dura lex, sed lex. There is no Latin word sad.

                    I agree - no ...
                    "By inertia" spanked.
                    Thank... hi
              2. sufix
                sufix April 6 2014 23: 51
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                You can always sign up, only there will be no turning back. Like cannon fodder, people will always be in demand. If only it didn’t happen that when all the dust and tinsel settle down, they will not be on the wrong side of their own convictions.
      2. avt
        avt April 6 2014 12: 53
        +2
        Quote: Little Muck
        And it is not correct to compare Crimea with the rest of Ukraine

        Everything is relative .
        Quote: Little Muck
        We had troops there, and this, firstly, played a factor of restraint, secondly, courage and decisiveness in actions, thirdly, the miserable authorities simply got sick. That happened HAPPY PEOPLE.

        Again, a superficial judgment from television coverage. What means
        Quote: Little Muck
        in the third, the miserable power simply got scared.

        And in the South East at the first, large-scale actions did not scare ?? But in the Crimea, Konstantinov, Aksyonov and Chaly managed to clearly lead the fight and competently legally furnish it, enabling the GDP to use polite force.
        Quote: Little Muck
        secondly courage and decisiveness in action

        Well, then figure out who exactly on the ground, so competently organized a mass protest in real self-defense and received effective assistance. The lesson of the Crimea must be studied reformatted to the realities of the South East, and not cry about all the oligarchs who stole and all the betrayed leadership of Russia. The GDP did everything competently, when, on the courage of success, he did not climb into a fornicator with very serious consequences. Yes, working on the "Ukraine1991" project will now be incredibly difficult given the fact that Russia does not need an open war. It just does not need it. Although for the same Kiev puppets, this would be a very desirable scenario for solving many problems, including continuing to create a new one, the ancient nation velikoukrov.Pri peaceful development of events, and even with the successful economic development of the Crimea, supporters of the Russian World will really increase. No rabid propaganda of European ukrainization will not interrupt the elementary reflexes of Pavlov, even among the most "broad Svidomo"
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 6 2014 12: 59
          +1
          Quote: avt
          Yes, working on the project "Ukraine1991" will now be incredibly difficult given the fact that Russia does not need an outright war. It just does not need it. Although for the same Kiev puppets this would be a very desirable scenario for solving many problems, including continuing to create a new one, the ancient nation velikoukrov.Pri peaceful development of events, and even with the successful economic development of the Crimea, supporters of the Russian World will really increase. No rabid propaganda of Euro-Ukrainianization will not interrupt the elementary reflexes according to Pavlov, even among the most "broad Svidomo"

          Put your hands on time under a ripe apple ...
          1. avt
            avt April 6 2014 13: 07
            0
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Put your hands on time under a ripe apple ...

            Well, if you like - yes, that's right. Tearing a green fruit can be poisoned. So - cut, spray from pests, feed and water. And the main thing is not to yawn, so that it does not fall and rot on the ground.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker April 6 2014 13: 20
              +4
              Quote: avt
              Well, if you like - yes, that's right.

              Well ... This is how I assess the situation - there is no reason to interfere, since "an irreversible process has begun," outside interference from Russia will only aggravate the situation for Russia itself.
              "May the patient heal himself ..."
          2. Little Muck
            Little Muck April 6 2014 13: 25
            0
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Yes, working on the "Ukraine1991" project will now be incredibly difficult given the fact that Russia doesn't need an open war, it just doesn't need it.

            War is not needed, I agree. But in the near future, since none of those who came to power is really capable of raising the economy, they themselves will start, but first I will brainwash the people and there will be those who will go by with a margin for preponderance. It is not for nothing that a mass amnesty and recruitment of convicts is carried out. But the scenario with Georgia will not work. And I'm afraid that Bendery’s power has begun to take root. A wait-and-see policy could repeat June 1941. Now it was possible to get by with little blood, and then rivers would flow. And this is what the West and Amers need.
            1. avt
              avt April 6 2014 14: 34
              +2
              Quote: Little Muck
              But in the near future, since none of those who came to power is really capable of raising the economy, they themselves will start, but first I will brainwash the people and there will be those who will go by with a margin for preponderance.

              The one who starts first will open up and will surely miss a direct meeting. With such a blow, it’s generally taken down from the ring for the ropes at a time.
              Quote: Little Muck
              Now you could do a little blood

              stop Right now, there will be big blood and the consequences for Russia are unpredictable in the economic plan.
              Quote: Little Muck
              . And this is what the West and Amers need.

              And it’s to Amers, not Europeans.
              Quote: Little Muck
              It is not for nothing that a mass amnesty and recruitment of convicts is carried out.

              There is no need to be terribly catching up, this public could be mobilized only with a strong central government, with the presence of powerful, punitive bodies. They will flee with weapons and take up their main business in the "profession" - to rob the weak. The same crap as with the Right-wing National Guard. But again, no one says that you need to sit and do nothing! The main thing is not to be hysterical - grab the station, the bags go away. You need to clearly monitor the situation and use the available means to steer it in the right direction. But the matter will not be about GDP. I look along the branch, puppy "ran a minus - quietly performed a virtual act of sabotage" laughing
              1. Little Muck
                Little Muck April 6 2014 15: 03
                +1
                Regarding the cons, expressed his opinion on the rules of the site. Although I think this feature is not logical and would disable the ability to influence + and - when conducting direct correspondence.
                But at the expense of hysteria I will say the following. I suppose that VVP is not a bad chess player and there is a team of "who understand the game", but no matter how we find ourselves in the place of those who received the first blow and heroically, despite the loss of everyone, we will win. This already happened in June 1941, and as a result, more than 26 million died in the USSR alone, and it would be much better to take care of it early and crush the scum earlier and without polytesses.
              2. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker April 6 2014 15: 08
                +3
                Quote: avt
                As I walk along, I look at the puppy-amerlik branch "I ran a minus - I quietly performed a virtual act of sabotage"

                Once again, "In impotent rage .." laughing
        2. Little Muck
          Little Muck April 6 2014 13: 16
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          This is how we reason about the Baltics. But now Russians are simply "non-citizens", excluded from political life by their laws. And now any indignation can be suppressed in any way (they will have to start shooting, and according to their law they will be right). If we need it, then yes.
          The Baltics are "dying out", the people are leaving in search of a better life, but the territory is increasingly occupied by the NATO military (a great option).
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          2. Counter
            Counter April 6 2014 14: 29
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            Quote: Little Muck
            That's exactly what I wrote earlier in the comments to another article. As cynical as it may seem, we can help if a river of "human blood" flows. But they minus me. But this is true.

            I did not see what you wrote in the comments to another article, but in the comments here you write completely different. Put your thoughts in order before submitting them to the forum, then there will be more clarity with what you want to say.
  19. Sandov
    Sandov April 6 2014 19: 21
    0
    Quote: Little Muck
    We-Russia, saving the Crimea and Crimeans from the "Bender plague", gave a ghostly reason for hope for the rest of the people of Ukraine. But alas, neither spontaneous indignation, nor the creation of some underground forces will really be supported by our authorities (although we really want to be wrong).

    We cannot send in troops, since formally this is the territory of Ukraine. Americans rely on this, unleash a massacre between the Slavs. If the people rise then we can help.
    1. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 6 2014 19: 25
      0
      So I write about this all day that it is necessary to support popular outrage. After all, this is not about stupidly introducing troops, but for protection against fascist banderlogs.
  • mabuta
    mabuta April 6 2014 10: 45
    +6
    All then the current Ukrainian authorities will come around.
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought April 6 2014 10: 48
    +3
    Not everything is as simple as it seems at first glance. We have to wait a little longer, even if the inhabitants of the southeast themselves really take power in at least some region, in the Crimea, decisive pro-Russian people are in power, so everything turned out so well there. Taking power into your own hands, announcing this, you can expect military action from the junta. Then it will be possible to call on Russia for help. And so, if we now begin to send troops, this will be an act of aggression. Do we need it?
    1. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 6 2014 11: 38
      0
      That's exactly what I wrote earlier in the comments to another article. As cynical as it may seem, we can help if a river of "human blood" flows. But they minus me. But this is true.
      1. Roman 57 rus
        Roman 57 rus April 6 2014 15: 05
        0
        I completely agree with you. But, we must continue to look for other solutions. I think, as long as we need serious financial injections (secretive) in the protest movements of SE, otherwise all this will be spontaneous and short-lived in nature with a result close to zero.
  • Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov April 6 2014 10: 51
    +2
    Quote: I readNews
    You say that as if without bandits from the sector, the rule of law and constitutional order will come in the country. The power in the country is captured by mattresses, and you (and us) are being distracted by some bandits from this.

    Not by some, but by the most real collaborationist troops.
    The power structures that sided with the junta are criminals, and they must be dealt with as criminals.
    It is these criminals who are US power support who carry out punitive measures against their people.
  • pvv113
    pvv113 April 6 2014 11: 33
    +6
    According to the city site 0629.com.ua, protesters - about 200 people
    We already know about the ability of corrupt Ukrainian media to distort facts for the sake of the interests of banderlogs and NATO. Even one episodic shot shows that the number of protesters speaks of problems for scribes with simple arithmetic.
    Ukraine should not rely only on Russia. First of all, the people themselves must organize and knock out the banderlogs, establish a legitimate authority that will be authorized by the people to apply for official help to Russia
  • pts-m
    pts-m April 6 2014 11: 38
    0
    Quote: Tersky
    Quote: major071
    The case must be brought in Kiev last year, when the Maidan began.

    And it should have looked something like this:

    interesting and if the continuation of this video? interesting to see.
  • konvalval
    konvalval April 6 2014 11: 39
    +1
    The South-East will not follow the Crimean route. They don't even talk about it at rallies. They demand federalization within Ukraine, and therefore there is no reason for our "help".
    1. santush
      santush April 6 2014 12: 31
      +1
      Who at the rally even a word for joining Russia-on the bunk immediately! The southeast is one, without any help! Crimea was easier than that, the Black Sea Fleet was based there!
    2. Sevastopol
      Sevastopol April 6 2014 18: 04
      +1
      they are already directly asking for help from Putin and inclusion in the Russian Federation as a subject. see today's news. again seized the administration building.
  • Ross
    Ross April 6 2014 11: 39
    +1
    Quote: major071
    the case was initiated under the article "riots".

    The case must be brought in Kiev last year, when the Maidan began. There really were MASS riots. What power, what the prosecutor’s office - corrupt twa.ri! am

    The result of lustration of police and SBU. The organs from Kiev intimidated, now they are beating up against the leadership of the rebellious people.
  • sv68
    sv68 April 6 2014 11: 50
    +2
    in the mark you need to install more powerful calendars near the buildings of the SBU and the prosecutor’s office, and for a day they’ll dig up without stopping to scroll through the recording of the battle cry of idiots who don’t skip, that’s for sure - and while the zoo will jump to take power into their own hands
  • GHOST_AAA
    GHOST_AAA April 6 2014 12: 20
    +8
    PEOPLE THERE IS THIS MESSAGE WHO ANYWHERE ANYTHING KNOWS
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 April 6 2014 12: 25
      +1
      Quote: GHOST_AAA
      PEOPLE THERE IS THIS MESSAGE WHO ANYWHERE ANYTHING KNOWS

      This is one of three that previously posted videos with the possibility of active action and that are armed, etc. The others, the SBU accepted, weapons were confiscated, according to reports.
    2. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 6 2014 12: 41
      +1
      If this is a real person and what he says is true, then the junta will begin the hunt for him.
      The question is, what is the people of the Southeast capable of? Will there be a real struggle for their freedom or will fall under Bendera’s (in fact, they are the national minority).
      1. sniper
        sniper April 6 2014 16: 00
        +2
        Quote: Little Muck
        I, and what is the people of the Southeast capable of?

        So far, no matter what ... All these exits to rallies, and even more so the seizure of buildings, without trying to hold on to complete meaninglessness ... They only lit up and handed over the activists, I do not see other results ... Lenin should be read (though not I love him) Train armed detachments, carry out work among the masses and only then act, but not "weekend tourism", and beat only when I am sure of the result, Yanukovych would be very useful here as a legitimate president ... Eh, yes to crush water in a mortar ...
    3. Sandov
      Sandov April 6 2014 19: 31
      +1
      Quote: GHOST_AAA
      PEOPLE THERE IS THIS MESSAGE WHO ANYWHERE ANYTHING KNOWS

      More such people would have to squeeze banderlogs. Until the Slavs unite to fight the junta, Amer PMCs will rule there.
  • santush
    santush April 6 2014 12: 26
    +1
    This sai, 0629, often sings to the tune of the junta! And the junta does lawlessness! I am surprised at the "siloviks" who were killed on the Maidan by the supporters of the junta, and they (siloviki) harnessed to it (the junta)! Zadolbala already this so-called power is not only Mariupol, and the whole Southeast! How much more to endure?
  • Turk
    Turk April 6 2014 14: 04
    0
    Quote: ded
    2034 year. Yaytsenyuh, Klitschko, Tyagni-in-Bok and Turchinov in the center of Kiev celebrate the 20th anniversary of the Maidan.

    Hto not jump - that Mascal!

    Have you already eaten Yulka?
  • siberalt
    siberalt April 6 2014 14: 53
    0
    Quote: Little Muck
    That's exactly what I wrote earlier in the comments to another article. As cynical as it may seem, we can help if a river of "human blood" flows. But they minus me. But this is true.

    Maybe they minus correctly. In the 2nd grade in Russian schools, children already know that "Y" after "C" is written only in four cases: chicken, gypsy, tiptoe and chick! laughing Do not confuse with suffixes and good luck on the exam!
    1. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 6 2014 15: 28
      0
      It is a pity that from all that has been said, they only saw the letter "Y", this is all the ideological fuss on the site.
      To delve into the processes, one needs to think for this, and have a justified point of view (if possible, their own, and not for the sake of the powerful, it is difficult). Suddenly, power will change tomorrow, but already written with a pen.
      I am writing my point of view and do not consider it the last resort. I would like to see reasonable and realistic (without ideological subtext and hidden power toadness) conclusions. In order not to reduce everything to getting + or -, to status or rating.
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt April 6 2014 17: 25
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        Yes, I didn’t minus you. You asked the forum - (why are you being minus), and I expressed my assumption. All just laughing
      3. Turkir
        Turkir April 6 2014 23: 43
        0
        Question removed?
        Yes, you spit on these minuses.
        The truth will win ...
  • vvvvv
    vvvvv April 6 2014 15: 03
    0
    As I wrote the other day - there is every reason to believe that Russia, as a result, merges the rest of Ukraine (except Crimea) in the final analysis into NATO and all pro-Russian activists were left to their own devices ...
    As they were hollowed - they are hollowed, as they were arrested and started business - they continue. As the self-proclaimed authorities of Ukraine appointed all key posts in the regions of their people, no one can move them. An unsuccessful protest is obtained. It is necessary to remove the leaders of the power structures and local authorities, putting pro-Russian - only this can be the way! One of the parties is either strengthening or weakening. While the pro-Russian forces are weakening. The only way is the non-recognition of the Kiev authorities and their appointments, the removal of the pro-Kiev leaders of any structures.
    1. jPilot
      jPilot April 6 2014 16: 56
      +3
      Yes, Russia does not drain anyone. And it is also impossible to directly support with concrete actions, because this can result in the opposite of the expected result. Don't forget the propaganda is in full swing there. And rallies in the southeast are only on weekends, and this is not a reason to intervene, like the classic "there are few real violent, so there are no leaders." This is war! If there is no leader, they need to look for him. How to create an underground during the war years, accumulate forces to increase your ranks if you want to create combat detachments and now wait for a convenient moment. And with such a leadership in Kiev, you won't have to wait long. Because it will begin soon, robbery, hunger and devastation. Accordingly, the dissatisfaction of the masses, the people should be allowed to feel that the EU is deceiving them, and even those who are now yelling with foam: "I want from Eropu" will appear in these ranks.
      1. vvvvv
        vvvvv April 6 2014 20: 44
        0
        It just kills me when I read about the abduction and removal of another activists to Kiev. institution of affairs for them potentially for a huge time. Why not be allowed to abduct activists ?! Russia could actively act under shadow means - bribing, mobilizing and organizing pro-Russian forces. And the abductions of activists for me do not fit into the active and reasonable participation of Russia. All activists must be protected by supporters and prevent the abduction by force. The Kiev government is illegitimate and self-proclaimed, so the SBU carries out the commands of the bandits, and not the legitimate authorities. This is exactly what needs to be voiced. Instead, armed militia is disarmed and arrested. I think that kapets will come in this way ...
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 April 6 2014 23: 59
          0
          Well, the most important thing is what SHOULD NOT Putin do personally and the FSB in particular .. So this is to advertise the actions of such a plan ..
    2. DMB-78
      DMB-78 April 6 2014 23: 03
      0
      Quote: vvvvv
      and all pro-Russian activists were left to their own devices ..

      to sit on tanks and march on Kiev to release them from prisons? or Putin immediately declare war on Ukraine?
  • rassel0889
    rassel0889 April 6 2014 15: 21
    +1
    What you offer is called to start a civil war ...
    1. Sevastopol
      Sevastopol April 6 2014 18: 01
      +2
      it has already begun at least in Donetsk and Lugansk ...
  • Little Muck
    Little Muck April 6 2014 15: 39
    0
    Quote: rassel0889
    What you offer is called to start a civil war ...

    Now we will not help our friends and relatives, and tomorrow, when they are brainwashed, they will be told "well, where are your defenders, blown away" and on such a wave new ones will appear, if not enemies, but not friends, for sure. You need to look deeper.
    In a country where anarchy and chaos reign, it is quite possible to use "polite Ukrainian" people and systematically clean up the territory, even helping with weapons. This abscess cannot be covered with green paint, a surgeon is needed here.
    1. avt
      avt April 6 2014 18: 29
      +1
      Quote: Little Muck
      Now we will not help our friends and relatives, and tomorrow, when they are brainwashed, they will be told "well, where are your defenders, blown away" and on such a wave new ones will appear, if not enemies, but not friends, for sure.

      Here are more details than you plan to help? The introduction of troops and the unleashing of a full-scale war involving a third NATO side with full-scale sanctions from Russia, which is far from the USSR since the introduction of troops into Afghanistan? This is despite the fact that Ukraine is far from Afghanistan and full-scale military operations, as they have on the territory of Ukraine, are not being conducted, no, even a “revolutionary” government does not require the introduction of troops. Will you return Yanukovych with bayonets? heard from those who first broadcast about the fact that in Crimea we will lose the money of the pension fund, and before that with terrible punishments, “Holy Investments” were scared, they say it would leave and everything was lost in Russia, why they say Crimea was occupied. It looks more like a provocation, and it’s the second thing, whether it’s willingly or not, it doesn’t affect the result. I’ll repeat in case it’s unwittingly - unprepared, stupidly on the courage, military intervention amid screams, otherwise there will be a sea of ​​blood ", will only bring great trouble and these very rivers of blood. Well, there is not even a near legitimate reason for the arrival of polite people like in Crimea. It is too late to repeat the Crimean scenario in the East and South, for which "thanks" to the "Party of Regions", the time factor was missed and now Lenin's one has come, tomorrow it will be too late ", this is tomorrow" and it has come, you need to meticulously work on the ground and before theirs, presidential elections, squeeze out of the maydauns and confront the fact of regional constitutions similar to the Crimea in 1992, that is, in fact, make a confederation. And this can really be done if people on weekends do not just drive around the cities and villages. as already mentioned - to regroup and on completely legal, economic demands, FORCE regional councils to make the necessary decisions.
      1. Little Muck
        Little Muck April 6 2014 18: 47
        +3
        I’m not the kind of strategist, but I have already outlined the methods of struggle, see below. And this is just what comes at a first approximation.
        You can help without direct troops. I have my own special forces and I think it will be no worse than the western one. We must act by similar methods.
        Neutralize the accomplices of the Kiev junta, but harshly (throw down and bury, so that even no memory is left). Locking up "rot" is not an option. "Democrats-benefactors" will surely appear and release them again.
        To publicize the enemy’s plans (preliminary to analyze them and give out brightly to the whole world to show hu is hu).
        I already wrote that I don’t have the skills of a sabotage war, but if necessary, I didn’t shoot badly in the past and, if necessary, and with the support of fathers-commanders, I’m ready for work and defense.
        My grandfather fought with this oddity, it’s a pity that not everyone was beaten then. But nothing, now finish it.
        And Crimea was taken to God. His returned.
        1. vvvvv
          vvvvv April 6 2014 20: 48
          0
          Here I am about the same. It is normal to introduce foreign military legions by the Kiev authorities, but is it forbidden for Russia to support Russian and pro-Russian Ukrainians ?! I believe that at least an ultimatum must be set on the release of the abducted activists in eastern Ukraine, the cessation of their abductions and the withdrawal of foreign military mercenaries, or Russia will be forced to send troops.
  • Little Muck
    Little Muck April 6 2014 16: 45
    0
    Well, now (06.04.2014/16/35 at 24-XNUMX) Nikita Mikhalkov produced a "letter from the Baltic states" to Ukrainians at VESTI XNUMX. And we know about the long-standing friendship of our GDP.
    Once this (that Ukrainians must drink this cup to the bottom) is broadcast on one of the main television channels in Russia. Therefore, my conclusions made above (about help, which will not be) are correct.
    Such statements and readings without specific consent do not occur on the state channel. This is the position of the country's leadership (albeit veiled). Those who need to understand everything.
    1. jPilot
      jPilot April 6 2014 17: 12
      +1
      Read your statements, well, straight "Napoleon on the couch." And what have you done to help Ukraine. And it’s weak to go and head, so to speak, the underground, or at least to join its slender ranks, watched the film "Volunteers", there is an opportunity to continue moving. Understand the Sunday rallies in the southeast and the arrests of activists, this is not a reason to intervene, it can only get worse.
  • sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 6 2014 16: 53
    0
    Where to go? I’d leave right now, but where just to Lugansk ??? Write !!!
    1. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 6 2014 17: 14
      +4
      No need to go anywhere. And there is no need to send troops ahead. It is necessary to act by the same methods, but more carefully.
      They took a "people's little man", publish the addresses and photos of all who had a hand in this. Visit relatives and friends. Conduct explanatory work. If necessary, remind about the value of life.
      Make it clear to the enemy that we can also roll law and order in Bender's way into the asphalt. You look and the accomplices of the new government will diminish.
      And our counterintelligence service will help "polite Ukrainian guys" to identify corrupt scum.
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  • Corsair
    Corsair April 6 2014 17: 37
    +1
    Police in Donetsk on the verge of riot: almost full-time employees are now waiting for “polite people”

    The detention center in Donetsk is currently almost completely clogged with people who were detained illegally. These are activists who advocate connecting the region with Russia and holding a referendum. Now almost all the opera from the Donetsk police department has directly posted their demands to the police chief of the city of Kirindyasov. They say that they are no longer able to comply with the instructions of the Kiev junta, as well as political orders of Pozhidaev. These people make operas suppress pro-Russian sentiments in the city.
    Police officers from all areas of the city do not directly express their support for this opinion, however, they also do not fulfill “orders” that oblige policemen to detain activists. They silently do not detain anyone.
    In the police, a riot situation is gradually brewing, while many have already gathered to write a letter of resignation. Very strong pressure is being exerted on the Donetsk police by the SBU, as well as the prosecutor's office. Everyone just waits until a spark breaks out, until someone has the nerves, and people begin to massively, collectively quit.
    Most of the city’s policemen are now waiting for “polite people.” Donetsk law enforcement officers write messages on the network in the style of "to you, not Donbass!" Domaidan, but now everything! ”
    This note is distributed on the Internet at the request of the Donetsk detectives.

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  • Sevastopol
    Sevastopol April 6 2014 17: 50
    +2
    in Donetsk, the Russian flag was hoisted over the administration, it was captured by local residents. again. are not going to leave. asking for help from Putin. a very difficult situation, but I will say one thing: it is necessary, we must help them. that's just how - the question. this is not Crimea, everything is much more complicated here. as from a geographical point of view (we are practically an island), from an economic, from a military one (there have always been Russian troops in Crimea since 1778, but they don’t exist in Donetsk at all ...) and they don’t have such unity as we have...
    Is anyone still in doubt? but they will not back down! that's for sure! moreover, there are more and more supporters of joining Russia every week, and not just, but precisely active supporters!
    In Lugansk, they stormed the SBU. There are people injured...
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas April 6 2014 18: 48
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      Quote: Sevastopolets
      in Donetsk, the Russian flag was hoisted over the administration, it was captured by local residents

      On USTREAM online broadcast from Donetsk. There are not many people, for the most part they behave passively about which the organizers are indignant ... Between the "organizers" of the seizure there is no coherence, continuous blah-blah-blah ...
      1. Sevastopol
        Sevastopol April 6 2014 19: 24
        +2
        And I have other data. There are clear requirements, however, an action plan is not yet known. At the moment, in Donetsk they demand an urgent convocation of a session of the regional council and a referendum on joining the Russian Federation. Like this. Neither more nor less.
        1. Nayhas
          Nayhas April 6 2014 20: 41
          -4
          Quote: Sevastopolets
          And I have other data. There are clear requirements, however, an action plan is not yet known. At the moment, in Donetsk they demand an urgent convocation of a session of the regional council and a referendum on joining the Russian Federation. Like this. Neither more nor less.

          Who! Does this small handful of people reflect the interests of a million residents of Donetsk?
          http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/45838171
          1. zzz
            zzz April 6 2014 22: 13
            +1
            Quote: Nayhas
            Who! Does this small handful of people reflect the interests of a million residents of Donetsk?
            http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/45838171


            All that you see is what you are allowed to see !!!! Nowhere is there any reliable information, the lights are off there, and only by mob. bind.
            1. Nayhas
              Nayhas April 7 2014 06: 45
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              Quote: zzz
              All that you see is what you are allowed to see !!!! Nowhere is there any reliable information, the lights are off there, and only by mob. bind.

              There the filming was conducted by a rally participant and, as I understood, by agreement with the organizers. There he was regularly regularly asked the truth what the hell he was shooting, what everyone around had cool-headed, supposedly he was ours, he was specifically filming him.
          2. Nevyatoy
            Nevyatoy April 6 2014 22: 37
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            Also looked at law. It was already getting dark, and they weren’t filming with the best camera (the phone is probably), but it is clear that people are going to collect barricades from tires more and more. I wrote off a guy from Donetsk in classmates today, he wrote to the people there were a lot of moods and they won’t give a serious building for a good one.
  • PATTIY
    PATTIY April 6 2014 18: 09
    0
    Where is the OSCE mission?
    OSCE - Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, the largest security organization with 56 European countries.
  • pvv113
    pvv113 April 6 2014 19: 29
    +9
    Let banderlogs and NATO henchmen see what awaits them
    1. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 6 2014 19: 31
      +1
      If helpers are needed, I will be glad to assist. Even in a less humane way.
  • siberalt
    siberalt April 6 2014 19: 39
    +2
    Speeches are not organized, slogans are vague. Implemented provocateurs are doing everything to make sense of the essence of these speeches. The fact that the authorities are connected and coordinates the actions of the latter is evident from the statement of the prosecutor's office about the allegedly vague requirements. And it is not difficult to translate into a massive violation of public order. From the political plane to the criminal.
  • 51064
    51064 April 6 2014 20: 04
    +2
    Quote: Sevastopolets
    And I have other data. There are clear requirements, however, an action plan is not yet known. At the moment, in Donetsk they demand an urgent convocation of a session of the regional council and a referendum on joining the Russian Federation. Like this. Neither more nor less.

    Donetsk residents want to hold out until tomorrow until lunchtime, call on the population for help, to speak, "together we are invincible", they are preparing to repel the assault. They take out the necessary for the night and tomorrow. "We should stand the night, but hold out the day." The police have 300 people nearby, they have a water cannon. Riot Suppression Equipment. Banderlog is not visible yet. Weapons too. Requirements - as you write, a referendum, MPs are invited to an extraordinary session at 12-00 tomorrow. Sound reproduction equipment, military-patriotic repertoire are in operation. Representatives of the mass media outlets (SMRAD) are filming what is happening. There is a lack of organization, I do not see clear management, what is happening is in the format of a meeting rather.
  • Shustov
    Shustov April 6 2014 20: 14
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    I don’t know guys, but I don’t want to fight. Not in the sense of WHO, but in the sense of a big war ... With vigorous bombs, chemistry and all kinds of bacteriological filth. I'm sorry for the children. Then there will be no neighbors of our own, no us, some Zulu will stay somewhere ... And because of all this, plus Africa, plus Koreans, plus Afghan Tajiks, chipped, plus the Middle East, plus Latinos raised their heads ... ? I'm wondering, right now, there are all sorts of theirs former ministers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, SBU, their oddball "legitimate", tell all sorts of passions. And what are these eccentrics with the letter "M" not scratching when they were?
  • 51064
    51064 April 6 2014 20: 18
    +2
    Yes, and also, in Donetsk, the rebels in case of refusal of the Donetsk regional administration to consider the issue of a referendum are going to take over the functions of the council and initiate a referendum,
    power passes into the hands of the people - its representatives who initiated the overthrow of the current Donetsk administration. The capture of the regional council building took place without casualties. Initiators are being called up not to succumb to provocations, not to cause harm to the police officers who are on their side without reason, there is an agreement with the police leadership to prevent violent confrontation.
  • Shustov
    Shustov April 6 2014 20: 33
    +1
    Has it really begun?
  • 51064
    51064 April 6 2014 20: 47
    +1
    Not a fact, but on the other hand, it is in my memory today the most organized and competent that could be observed in the eastern regions. A more or less well-thought-out political platform now, and if you pull up your armed power block (former officers, small arms), and they have it with a probability of more than 99%, then the chances will be no worse than 50 to 50 to seize power.
    1. avt
      avt April 6 2014 22: 54
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      Quote: 51064
      Not a fact, but on the other hand, it is in my memory today the most organized and competent that could be observed in the eastern regions.

      Gubarev did the same, but he was taken out of the building under the pretext of a mortgaged mine, he lost the pace, although then the situation for such an action was much more favorable, but they could not, again due to poor organization, reassign the police and fasten the SBU, as well as take under the control of business bodies. The result is known - the arrest and removal to Kiev. Courage people in the East and South do not take hi what is the lock in the weapons warehouse. BUT! Again and again, everything rests on the guiding structure of the protest, or rather, in some kind of well, just children's mistakes. It's just a shame! Well, at least old Soviet films about the revolution would be watched chtol.
  • 51064
    51064 April 6 2014 21: 04
    +2
    "Infa" has just appeared - Turchinov urgently called the "siloviks".
    Everything is correct, the situation is getting out of control.
    Since it is calculated that if armed Donetsk residents appear in the Donetsk regional administration now, then tomorrow Vladimir Vladimirovich's move may follow - "polite people" and "less polite people", as well as impolite and even rude))) Therefore, Turchinov takes what is happening under his personal control ,
    There are no options left, it was not possible to attend the "Sabbath" of Geyropa's speakers.
  • 51064
    51064 April 6 2014 21: 26
    +1
    I think that if today and tomorrow the Donetsk people and Lipetsk fail, then in general the protest moods will decline. Managers and initiators will be caught, a bunch of criminal cases will be opened, etc. The bulk of the protesters, having suffered another defeat already in their almost endless series for a while, hides and will cease to make open protests.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 April 6 2014 23: 24
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      Quote: 51064
      and nothing will work out in Lipetsk,

      Quote: 51064
      and nothing will work out in Lipetsk,

      and Lipetsk at what? everything is calm with us)))))
  • 51064
    51064 April 6 2014 21: 32
    +5
    In Kharkov, too, a difficult situation, "marvel", friends, "yak" Banderlogists were allowed through the system today, forced to move on their knees:
    1. zzz
      zzz April 6 2014 22: 14
      +2
      NOW HEARD, STORM THE OGA BUILDING IN KHARKIV !!!
  • 47609388
    47609388 April 6 2014 21: 49
    +1
    Mariuapol well done