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Russia without the friendly assistance of NATO. As it will be

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Russia without the friendly assistance of NATO. As it will be



NATO suspends cooperation with Russia and will help Ukraine. She asked for help. The new Ukrainian government, which is confident that the invasion of Russia will begin from day to day. In addition, Kiev does not leave an obsession to become a full member of the coalition. However, the chances that the alliance from the current NATO + 1 format will become NATO + Ukraine is, of course, not enough.

Everything in order.

NATO is no longer friends with Russia

The Alliance announced the suspension of "the entire complex of military and civilian practical cooperation with Russia." It is so menacingly said in the final statement of the NATO Council, which appeared on the official website of NATO on the "landmark" day for Russian citizens - April 1. True, in the same paragraph, the clause is immediately given that holding meetings of the Russia-NATO Council at the ambassadorial level and above will continue.

Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, the past representative of Russia to the alliance, commented on one of the first severe sanctions. “NATO decided to freeze cooperation with Russia until June. Moreover, 1 reported this on April. Last time (in the 2008 year - approx. Ed.) They froze for three months and thawed out by December. What can I say: the cold war, that's cold. ”

From the same document, by the way, it follows that Russia has rudely undermined trust, on which "our cooperation must be based," and in fact, has already crossed out 20 years of work in the direction of "earn NATO confidence."

By the way, 1 April, NATO celebrates the anniversary of the expansion.

Ukraine asks for an alliance

While the “civilized world” and Russia are thinking for Kiev about possible ways out of the crisis, while Russia time and again specifies that it did not invade and does not intend to invade the territory of Ukraine, she, referring to the threat to Russia, is trying to become a member of NATO.

Arriving on Tuesday at the headquarters of the organization, and. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrei Deschitsa asked for "establishing closer cooperation between Kiev and the alliance." It is not by chance that on the day when Deschitsa was in Brussels, at the request of the Pentagon, General Philip Breedlove, the commander of NATO forces in Europe, also flew to the Belgian capital at the request of the Pentagon. Thus, there is no doubt that after the 25 of May - the day of the Ukrainian elections - the new government “Square” will even more closely become friends with NATO.

If you read into the election programs, almost all candidates have this item. For Yulia Tymoshenko, Kiev’s joining the alliance is a priority. Petro Poroshenko also does not deny a rapprochement with the alliance. According to sociologists, the Party of Regions, only outsiders oppose the bloc’s participation in the management of Ukraine.

NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen himself, hosting Deschitsu, hospitably noted: “Russia's actions will not affect our open door policy. NATO doors remain open to new members. And the decision on admission to the alliance is made by the members of the bloc "without the intervention of third parties."

However, the informal leaders of the alliance, like the same Germany, do not see Ukraine in the coalition. This was directly stated by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Germany Frank-Walter Steinmeier. "I do not see any paths that could lead Ukraine to NATO membership," he stressed.

Earlier, US President Barack Obama said that NATO will not expand at the expense of Ukraine and Georgia.

Only the recognition of the neutral status of Ukraine by NATO can save the country from the crisis, summarized Russia's permanent representative to NATO Alexander Grushko:

“Responsibility for the situation in Ukraine largely lies with Western countries, which violated one of the fundamental principles of the Helsinki Final Act and carried out a gross intervention in the internal affairs of Ukraine, effectively putting the country on a break. The topic of Ukraine’s membership in NATO, about which we have repeatedly warned our colleagues in the Russia-NATO Council, is shaking the situation. The responsibility lies with the countries of the West, and it is they who should start substantive work with the so-called interim government of this country. ”

NATO expansion

Earlier this week, the NATO Secretary General warned menacingly about the imminent deployment of troops in Eastern European and Baltic countries bordering Russia: aerial surveillance in Poland and Romania would be strengthened (airplanes were already stationed there), in addition, the presence in the Black Sea region would be strengthened. By 15, the alliance promises to announce a plan to strengthen the defense of its Eastern European allies.

On Tuesday and in the airspace of the Baltic countries, training flights of NATO air forces began, in which military aircraft of the USA and Sweden will take part.

The Americans also requested permission from Romania to increase the number of US military personnel from 1 thousand to 1,5 thousand at an air base stationed in Constance on the Black Sea. Poland, in turn, demands to “send” more NATO military to its territory. However, the director of the Center for Socio-Political Studies, Vladimir Yevseyev, doubts that the United States will begin to really send troops to the borders with Russia, since a significant grouping of NATO troops is in Afghanistan, and therefore the alliance is weakened today.

"Theoretically, the United States can relocate a military base closer to Russia, for example, from Germany, but relocation will require the investment of very significant funds, which again, the Americans will not go," - he told RBC.

However, the North Atlantic Alliance does not even think seriously about the war with Russia, knowing full well the insanity of such a venture. The only meaning of the current actions of the block is to play with muscles and show where the money goes.

All these NATO statements are designed for the internal user, that is, for the population of their states, so that they know: the leadership is taking measures against a "dangerous and terrible" Russia, said in an interview with "However" reserve lieutenant colonel, candidate of political sciences, expert of the Center for Military Political Scientists Alexander Perendzhiev.

- We give the airspace of NATO aircraft for the transportation of goods to the military in Afghanistan. They buy everything from us for the needs of their army in the region. Plus, we now have close cooperation with individual NATO countries, and it cannot be stopped in a second. An agreement was signed with Poland on the interaction of border parts - we have an agreement on joint prevention of emergency situations. And there are many such programs.

Regarding Ukraine’s membership in NATO ... In its current form, it will not join the alliance. I admit that its western part may enter the block, but the eastern part will be in another place, maybe in the CSTO. And the military instructors who were sent to the Ukrainians, I think, are not going to act against Russia, but will bring order to Ukraine itself and disarm the gangs that operate in the country. The approach of NATO troops to our borders, of course, causes some concern, but now the Crimea has become ours, we are already on a horse.

The fact that there are no reasons for a special panic because of NATO said Victor Murakhovsky, a reserve colonel, military specialist, and chief editor of Arsenal magazine, in an interview with “However”:

- We are bordering on Norway, on Poland ... For us, for five years now, this is a familiar situation. Such a neighborhood is taken into account in the defense plan of the General Staff, which was approved by the president. Now the plan will be updated in connection with the entry of the territory of Crimea and Sevastopol, changes in the conditions of basing, as well as taking into account the measures that NATO plans in those countries with which we border. But there are no objective threats.

All the same, smart people are sitting in the NATO leadership, and they understand that any military presence on the territory of Ukraine from NATO will cause a catastrophe, first of all for themselves. Therefore, they immediately stated that there was no talk of any military assistance to Ukraine, and even more so the presence of it. Categorically. They understand that the consequences will be grave. Therefore, everything goes within the framework of the Partnership for Peace program, Ukraine has been participating in it for a long time, and they have been holding joint events for a dozen years. And such cooperation will continue. In addition, Ukraine will be supplied with non-military equipment: communication systems, cars, dry rations, and possibly uniforms. We have seen what the arrival of NATO instructors led to on the example of Georgia. There were both American instructors and Israeli ones. The whole world saw the results. Now NATO refers to such caution. And I think the instructors who went to Kiev will not teach tactics, control, and possession of military equipment.

As for the suspension of cooperation between NATO and Russia, this “threatens” us with the cessation of joint exercises. Usually the fleet in such participated in the Baltic, on the Black Sea. For example, a visit to delegations from other countries of our educational institutions will cease, the exchange of students, cadets. But in general, this suspension of cooperation will not affect the activities of our armed forces.
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  1. moremansf
    moremansf April 6 2014 10: 01
    +15
    That's not the worst thing...
    1. W1950
      W1950 April 6 2014 10: 46
      +17
      What are the cunning rulers in Ukraine. Ukraine will join NATO, and Poroshenko himself has begun to withdraw his assets abroad. So it turns out that for Ukraine he will be a man of hunger, and what kind of demand is there?
      1. 53-Sciborskiy
        53-Sciborskiy April 6 2014 11: 02
        +42
        News of the day:
        A third of the population of Ukraine for joining NATO
        Dialog in the comments:
        - The entry of Ukraine into NATO, this is the collapse of NATO! All plunder! All the huts will be dragged!
        - Then 90% of Russians will support the entry of Ukraine into NATO!
    2. AVV
      AVV April 6 2014 11: 45
      +16
      Quote: moremansf
      That's not the worst thing...

      America paid 5 billion green candy wrappers so that Crimea became Russian, for which many thanks to them from the entire Russian people !!! And the hut became a slum after that !!!
      1. Lelek
        Lelek April 6 2014 13: 15
        +30
        Well, something like this.
        1. bubalik
          bubalik April 6 2014 16: 52
          +15
          ,,, Ukraine sent the United States an application for NATO membership ... Now Ukraine is waiting for the United States to add it as a friend and mark it in the pictures ... laughing
          1. sergaivenski
            sergaivenski April 6 2014 17: 15
            +16
            Few people now remember two facts: 1) when there was an armed conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh, Azerbaijan made extensive use of mercenary pilots, Ukrainians by nationality. Not wanting to risk their heads again, mercenary pilots dropped bombs from great heights; the mercenaries knew very well that they could be shot down by air defense systems of Armenia - and in case of capture they could be shot as war criminals; 2) under President Leonid Kuchma, a battalion of Ukrainian soldiers was sent to Iraq to help NATO forces; when the rebels of Iraq
            began to shoot at the coalition soldiers, the leaders of Ukraine urgently withdrew their soldiers from troubled Iraq (several people died from the battalion) !!! The first to squeal to the whole world: "They are shooting at us, protect us !!!" a foreign country ??? Play Cossacks-robbers or what ???
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        3. smart Fox
          smart Fox April 6 2014 16: 58
          +10
          you the title of the hero of Russia with these names, do not dirty
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        5. Stalker
          Stalker April 6 2014 17: 42
          +7
          It is possible and shorter .... good laughing
          1. Lawless
            Lawless April 6 2014 23: 45
            +2
            "SHKVARKA"
      2. Baloo
        Baloo April 6 2014 17: 17
        +6
        And from me personally, thanks to Barack Obamovich and this disabled person of the head from the Vietnam war.
      3. Stalevar
        Stalevar April 6 2014 18: 34
        +2
        Barak should be given the Order "For Services to the Fatherland" for his outstanding contribution to the unity of the Russian people and the reunification of Crimea with Russia laughing
    3. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 6 2014 13: 23
      +3
      the closer to us, the lower the cost of destroying these bases
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy April 6 2014 23: 30
        0
        The true truth!
    4. dmitrich
      dmitrich April 6 2014 13: 32
      +3
      Georgia entered and these will enter, in guano.
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy April 6 2014 23: 32
        0
        But Ukraine with their masters - Geyrope and Uncle Sam is not the first time.
    5. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 6 2014 13: 53
      +6
      Russia without the friendly assistance of NATO. As it will be
      It will be just wonderful.
    6. asadov
      asadov April 6 2014 14: 02
      +1
      as they say, the dog barks - the caravan goes on. So for our country now the most important thing is not to stop in your endeavors and from .. to the NATO opinion.
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy April 6 2014 23: 35
        0
        And even more cf. on gringos americanos!
    7. maks-101
      maks-101 April 6 2014 14: 46
      +2
      and that they declared war on us so let them openly say it as men, oh yes they have no men left there ..... sons, blue excuse me, we do not fight women and blue.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 6 2014 16: 22
        +1
        NATO suspends cooperation with Russia and will help Ukraine
        Well, let's arrange a competition.)) Well done! hit a pain point.! Russia will go further ..! ! Wait! hi
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      4. Stalker
        Stalker April 6 2014 18: 03
        +8
        and that they declared war on us so let them openly say this as men

        And in the picture there are only two men ... laughing
        1. waisson
          waisson April 6 2014 19: 04
          +5
          I will add and say two powers
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    9. Stalker
      Stalker April 6 2014 17: 38
      +17
      NATO expansion am
    10. Stalevar
      Stalevar April 6 2014 18: 37
      +6
      NATO suspends cooperation with Russia !!! However, these nits are hoping for continued cooperation with the Russian Federation on Afghanistan))). Well, aren't they creatures?
  2. Tersky
    Tersky April 6 2014 10: 01
    +44
    Asked for help the so-called new Ukrainian government, which is confident that the invasion of Russia will begin any day As soon as NATO pokes its nose into Ukraine, your dreams of an "invasion" will come true ...
    1. mountaineer
      mountaineer April 6 2014 11: 30
      +41
      something like this will be !!!! laughing
    2. 120352
      120352 April 6 2014 11: 51
      +39
      Tersky
      And NATO is already there. In latent form. Maidan is NATO, anti-Russianism is NATO. Unwillingness to find the snipers who killed the unarmed Berkut and is now accused of murders - also NATO! If you come to Ukraine (I do not write it with a capital letter, because it is unworthy of a CAPITAL letter) and look around, you will see that the suicide of the remnants of the state and the self-consciousness of the people - NATO, taking place there!
      NATO is not going to contain 40 million poor, unemployed Ukrainians, to restore its economy. The goal of NATO is to completely turn Ukrainians against Russians by means of lies, to convince the poor people that the cause of their troubles is in Russia and to establish, to the joy of finally crazy Ukrainians, missiles as close as possible to Russia in every yard.
      We still have to wait. To enter the territory of Ukraine now is suicide. Double suicide, since this will enable the "world community" to reasonably consider us aggressors and act accordingly, not choosing means and weapons against us, but the main thing is that our brothers are Ukrainians, who are actually Russians and were called Ukrainians only at the turn of 19 -20 centuries, earlier they considered themselves Russian Little Russians, they will also understand, under the influence of NATO emissaries, our invasion as an aggression!
      We need to change approaches to outreach among the so-called Ukrainians, to bring to them the true state of things and when they begin any clear movement against what they are living in, only then can we enter the territory of Little Russia to help them. Otherwise, we will be met not by brothers, not friends, but by enemies! And this is the main dream of the same NATO !!!
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      2. bubalik
        bubalik April 6 2014 16: 54
        0
        ,,, who were interested in an article for 2011g. on this topic on IN ,,, you can compare ,,,

        http://topwar.ru/9213-konstantin-sivkov-sistema-pro-nato-isklyuchitelno-protiv-r
        ossii.html
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      5. Stalker
        Stalker April 6 2014 20: 49
        +6
        And NATO is already there.

        Oh well....
      6. Drshan
        Drshan April 7 2014 19: 35
        0
        Yes, in the southeast, we don't need to explain anything, they themselves are calling. But the Zapidentsi ... You can't convince them, since the 40s the main idea is "independence". From Russians, Germans, Poles, Hungarians, Romanians. Their national hero, Stepa Bandera, says everything about it.
  3. koksalek
    koksalek April 6 2014 10: 03
    +37
    Whatever they write, but NATO as mold is getting closer and closer. I would like to see a similar trend on the part of Russia, but so far this trend has been observed only on the part of corrupt officials, who are moving over the hill with families and finances, and in Russia they earn money as temporary workers
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov April 6 2014 10: 24
      -2
      Quote: koksalek
      and while so far this trend has been observed only by corrupt officials, moving families and finances over the hill

      Think for yourself, such officials in droves came to power for a reason. They are directly generated by the system of state power in the Russian Federation. Such a system can expand its borders only if the systems around it are even more corrupt than the Russian one. But such is difficult to find. But Ukraine is just such a case.
    2. 120352
      120352 April 6 2014 13: 30
      +14
      I hope you are right in speaking of the movement of corrupt officials to the West as a trend. Moreover, as a trend that, hopefully, is in the past. Do you remember the story of the apartments in Miami of the same deputy Pekhtin and the "Pechting" that followed, as the process of getting rid of foreign real estate? Deputies and officials were getting rid of villas and apartments abroad, and government agencies were getting rid of these very deputies and officials. In terms of finance, the situation is similar. First, our president convincingly offered to get rid of foreign business and investments, and then NATO (from a black sheep - even a tuft of wool) duplicated the same demand as a response to the return of Crimea to Russia. Our president is consistent. Even if not everything happens as fast as we would like, but big and serious things are not done soon. Otherwise, deeds turn into campaigns.
      Russia's consistency is a deadly threat to NATO. The main thing now is that the "Fifth Column" gets what it deserves, because in the immature minds of our youth (persons under 45) it is very possible to incite any delirium, up to the organization of the Maidan, and this is DEATH for us! But one of the properties of Russians is the ability to rally under a common threat and a mortal dislike for traitors.
      1. Vadim12
        Vadim12 April 6 2014 21: 56
        +2
        Up to 45 young man! wink
        1. 120352
          120352 April 6 2014 22: 27
          +7
          Vfdim12
          The number "45" does not define anything here. It was said, rather, for a joke. But in life I had to meet twenty-year-old men and fifty-year-old boys. Who developed how and what they came to. Those who burn tires near the Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood, which is on the Moika in St. Petersburg and nail their own scrotum on Red Square in Moscow to the pavement, are led to the rallies of Novodvorskaya or Nemtsov - children are small, hysterical, undeveloped and ill-mannered. And those who catch bandits in the mountains, bumping into stretch marks (you can't always notice in the grass) and know how to behave in these cases, so as not to die and not endanger others are reliable adult men. This is approximately what was meant. Checked on myself.
  4. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk April 6 2014 10: 04
    +37
    All this cheap rascal looks like a grand fire in a brothel during a flood. It is necessary to stupidly bury the corridor to Afghanistan, and on all other issues it is necessary to send Brussels assassins along with their Phillington regional committee.
    1. starhina01
      starhina01 April 6 2014 11: 46
      +8
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      We must stupidly bury the corridor to Afghanistan

      better to do them in Afghanistan what they did there with us soldier
      1. Baloo
        Baloo April 6 2014 17: 19
        +7
        Too shy to ask: how is it in Ulyanovsk? Isn't it time to somehow see what kind of property is being taken out of Afghanistan? At least dogs sniff for decency?
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    3. Stalker
      Stalker April 6 2014 20: 54
      +5
      need to send brussels assassins together with their phasington regional committee

      To collect .....
  5. svp67
    svp67 April 6 2014 10: 04
    +23
    From the same document, by the way, it follows that Russia has rudely undermined trust, on which "our cooperation must be based," and in fact, has already crossed out 20 years of work in the direction of "earn NATO confidence."
    They approached us so "trustingly", then there they would open a new base "trustingly", then here, and we are so bad - they DIDN'T JUSTIFY ... Well, what can you say - "the lie must be so big that you just have to believe in it" ... NATO are worthy followers of Goebbels ...
  6. Yuri Sev Caucasus
    Yuri Sev Caucasus April 6 2014 10: 08
    +16
    no, Nato, and it’s not necessary, we lived without them and will still be living!
    1. 120352
      120352 April 6 2014 12: 13
      +14
      Nobody has ever managed to conquer Russia. In 1945, Russia defeated fascism. Now it’s the turn of NATO.
      If we take into account the "Law of the Pendulum", today NATO has gone to the extreme and has no other prospects, except for the aggravation of the internal crisis, a movement back, followed by the collapse of NATO.
      Our task now is to survive, not succumbing to their tricks, not to commit suicidal steps, to conduct a smart, competent game, explanatory work and propaganda among people with blurred consciousness in our former territories (USSR, Warsaw Treaty). We see what the Baltic States, Romania, and Bulgaria are like today. They became poor, unemployed. Poland is lured to lure Ukraine. We see how people live in other NATO countries, except for the initiators of the bloc. It must be destroyed inside. To arrange the Maidan in Brussels, where their headquarters, even worse than in Kiev, to step up performances in Germany, in the Scandinavian countries, to intensify anti-NATO activities everywhere - shake the block in every way! But there are special services for this. It is time for them to escape from a passion for business, including raiding and organizing corruption schemes.
      And no help to this very NATO from Russia. Close the corridor from Afghanistan, do not let them into our ports, into our airspace with all the ensuing consequences.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo April 6 2014 17: 21
        +5
        Except for victory, the collapse of the USSR. Also, after all, they have been roaming around for more than a year with ... both corrupt and traitors.
    2. andron1983
      andron1983 April 6 2014 12: 15
      -67%
      Correctly ! As we were expressing on the porches, we are going to express! Normal people are neither an example nor a decree to us!
      1. askort154
        askort154 April 6 2014 12: 44
        +35
        andron1983 ..... That's right! How to express on the porches, and we will express! Normal people are neither an example nor a decree to us!

        What, still stupid ?!
        1. altman
          altman April 6 2014 13: 26
          +18
          he not only stsit but also gray
        2. 120352
          120352 April 6 2014 13: 38
          +12
          askort154
          Have you not noticed? The man is sick. He has incontinence. From everywhere. And everywhere.
          And in general, it seems he was trying to call an ambulance and got in the wrong place ...
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      2. Lelek
        Lelek April 6 2014 13: 22
        +15
        This is a warning to you.
      3. 120352
        120352 April 6 2014 13: 36
        +10
        andron1983
        You keep your personal experience regarding entrances to yourself. I have it the opposite. I really liked to politely offer to people who have overcome the need for an entrance to wipe their natural moisture with their own clothes. By the way, I didn’t have to ask you about this?
      4. yuliatreb
        yuliatreb April 6 2014 15: 40
        +3
        Well, if you do this so that at least it’s not cultural and you really need an instructor from NATO
      5. sv68
        sv68 April 6 2014 16: 43
        +6
        here normal people discuss global problems. and if your culture comes down to crap in the hallways, I’m sure that sooner or later you will be asked to never do this by force.
      6. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 6 2014 17: 46
        +1
        Quote: andron1983
        Correctly ! As we were expressing on the porches, we are going to express! Normal people are neither an example nor a decree to us!

        I would not advise you andron1983 RU to do this. The residents of the entrance can turn in to the police and get quite a term. Imagine proudly entering the "hut" and informing the reason for arrival! Attention Experts! Question: "In what corner will Andron's place be?"
        But this is in the best case! In the worst case, they will tear off the subject of contention and put it in ... put it somewhere!
      7. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon April 6 2014 19: 03
        +1
        Quote: andron1983
        Correctly ! As we were expressing on the porches, we are going to express! Normal people are neither an example nor a decree to us!


        By themselves, people are not judged - normal people do not publicly state their problems.
      8. Alexandr73
        Alexandr73 April 6 2014 19: 07
        -1
        normal - which are "under the tail of the cunning"? Or for whom pedophilia is "normal child sexual development"? Or who won't find their hometown on the map?
  7. Anatolich
    Anatolich April 6 2014 10: 10
    +27
    The approach of NATO troops to our borders, of course, causes some concern, but now Crimea has become ours, we are already on horseback.
    Well, let's say not on a horse, but on a pony. But also that under the horse also can not be said. The main thing is not to stop there, and to consolidate success. It is necessary to deal closely with the Southeast, otherwise people are encouraged and stopped, and their naturally new power is pressing.
    1. Eydolon
      Eydolon April 6 2014 11: 41
      +3
      Anatolich, I completely agree
    2. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 6 2014 13: 26
      +8
      they preserve not only the southeast of Ukraine, they also get prehistory, there is generally a blockade
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. April 6 2014 14: 17
        +10
        Transnistria needs a direct air bridge.
        Or a corridor to the Black Sea under the protection of the Black Sea Fleet and Russian aviation.

        Apparently, it’s the Dniester that can become a saving straw, and Ukraine just doesn’t give a damn.
        If they remember the brotherhood, then let them first hear about it from the Transnistrians.

        Oh, these double standards ....

        Just a little bit, and there comes a line after which Russia will have no choice.
        Talking about fraternity is too expensive for real brothers.
        And if Ukrainians consider it possible to fight with the Russians, it's time to give them this opportunity.
        And then ... wherever they want the province, even to Poland, even to Turkey, even to Australia ...
        1. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov April 6 2014 17: 50
          +2
          Quote: Sergey S.
          Talking about fraternity is too expensive for real brothers.

          + Exactly so, unfortunately!
          The only thing we have to admit is "You won't be a brother by force"!
    3. sergaivenski
      sergaivenski April 6 2014 17: 36
      +2
      All the turmoil to Poland went to UKRAINE. Why are NATO planes flying to here ??? Are they vegetables or something ??? Weapons, equipment, American cookies. Today, NATO ingloriously leaves Afghanistan. And RUSSIA has a unique opportunity to repay NATO with a coin, close the air bridge over the territory of RUSSIA !!! Let their warriors be taken across the sea, if, of course, they can !!! In the Pakistan ally of the USA, the attitude towards the USA has long been diametrically changed from good to negative !!!
    4. vagabundo55
      vagabundo55 April 7 2014 01: 43
      +1
      That's right. Crimea is an easy walk for Russia. Flowers. Berries will begin in May after the presidential election in Ukraine. Then there are armed neo-Nazi formations of the right sector (there are now more than 10000 and their number is constantly growing, including due to experienced mercenaries arriving unhindered across the western borders of Ukraine) .Among them, the number of Muslim mercenaries who have gone through hot spots increases. The CIA leads this process: instructs, armaments, covers up, finances. The main battle for Ukraine is ahead. The US secret services need revenge for the shameful loss of Crimea. And divisions of armed radicals will be a decisive means for this, and their strength should not be underestimated. Currently, behind the scenes, Kiev is turning into a fortified area, no less powerful than Grozny at one time.
      And the militants are armed not only with AKs. Everything is much more serious!
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 April 7 2014 02: 54
        0
        Quote: vagabundo55
        armed neo-Nazi formations of the right sector (there are now more than 10000 and their number is constantly growing, including due to experienced mercenaries arriving unhindered across the western borders of Ukraine). Among them, the number of Muslim mercenaries who have passed hot spots increases.

        Where does the information come from? From the media? According to Yarosh? Wishful thinking is not difficult (Yarosh), but in reality he does not have 10 kilos of militants. There are a bunch of "reckless" thugs who shout with joy "Glory to the heroes!" - they do not represent a real military force. Remember how actively they began to retreat on the Maidan, as soon as Berkut took decisive steps. And there are separate groups of really trained "Nazis" - again, not for war, but more for sabotage actions. To create a fortified area, you still need more forces, and most importantly - funds, incl. equipment and weapons. So .. no, I'm not saying that the Pravosek people can be treated lightly! Underestimation of the "Nazis" and their allies should not be allowed. But to attribute superpowers to them too.
        By the way .. but do we really need Kiev? what Maybe let them? Strengthen .. And we will manage East and South wink
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  8. NIVH
    NIVH April 6 2014 10: 13
    +50
    Quote: Tersky
    As soon as NATO pokes its nose into Ukraine, your dreams of an "invasion" will come true ...
  9. alex47russ
    alex47russ April 6 2014 10: 15
    +13
    NATO is a cancer of the day! I am for cutting it! This is not a threat to NATO rams, but for Us it is a pure occupation! And tremendous pressure on Russia!
  10. Same lech
    Same lech April 6 2014 10: 16
    +7
    At the beginning of the week, the NATO Secretary General menacingly warned of the imminent deployment of troops in the eastern European and Baltic countries bordering Russia


    Well, well, we can tickle the nerves of EUROPE by placing CLUBS-K around its perimeter.

    That will be the hysteria of homosexuals in NATO. smile
    1. tolian
      tolian April 6 2014 10: 52
      +4
      And they are already posted.
    2. koksalek
      koksalek April 6 2014 12: 17
      +3
      Yes, not Europe, it is imperative that they close to their Obama border, so that they in their own skin around the clock feel what it is like to be under the gun. Then their crazy drive will gain a hint of reason, so to speak talking to them on an equal footing, while they surrounded us so that it would be empty together with their singers by the Geyropovites!
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy April 6 2014 23: 57
        +1
        I think Americans have long been surrounded underwater by our submarine missile carriers. It is unlikely that Putin is napping.
        1. vagabundo55
          vagabundo55 April 7 2014 01: 46
          +1
          And our tectonic weapons, too, do not drlet ...
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  11. Deadmen
    Deadmen April 6 2014 10: 17
    +7
    Yes, for God's sake, even grandmothers in the porches hate NATO
  12. mamont5
    mamont5 April 6 2014 10: 18
    +7
    "Russia without NATO friendly assistance."
    What did you mean? There are more such "friends" and no enemies are needed.

    "However, the informal leaders of the alliance, like Germany, do not see Ukraine in the coalition," FRG Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said bluntly. "I do not see any ways that could lead Ukraine to NATO membership." "
    And this is natural, because the most intelligent people understand that Ukraine is in NATO or not in NATO, because of this it will not cease to be in Russia. But NATO will not want to compete with Russia over Ukraine.

    “There are smart people in the NATO leadership, and they understand that any military presence on the territory of Ukraine from NATO will cause a catastrophe, first of all for themselves. Therefore, they immediately declared that they would not provide any military assistance to Ukraine, but all the more the presence of speech does not go. "
    That's it, and I'm about the same ... smile
  13. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 6 2014 10: 19
    +4
    Bandera do not understand that they will not be accepted in NATO; not such fools are sitting there. NATO understands that they will receive it immediately by the horns. And no one is going to get in touch with RUSSIA because of them. And they are still afraid of RUSSIA, although we are now much weaker but we’ll break their spine anyway. soldier
    1. hrych
      hrych April 6 2014 11: 37
      +20
      Oddly enough, but we are now much stronger than under the USSR. Due to the fact that, whatever one may say, the USSR, the social camp and the so-called sympathizers, were liquid jelly or loose pudding, which was supported and fed at the expense of the RSFSR and its people. When the USSR had a grain basket, we bought grain for petrodollars, incl. from the USA. The food security of the country was not at all worth it, in any mess it was hunger. Now the Russian Federation sells bread, how can it be without a "granary"? And so in everything. All the delights of socialism in the former republics, in the form of free medicine and education, at the expense of sent specialists, of course of Russian nationality, who were then thanked with mass murders, but you will get a local horseradish in a university in Russia, a huge competition, but a quota for nationalities. Although they never became specialists. More social. the camp was not a monolith, but simply its representatives waged wars with each other, and above all, these are the Maoists with the Viet Cong and not only. And the USSR aimed some of its missiles not at NATO, but at the Leninists in Beijing, as they did in response. Now Russia has just enough to burn both those and others, and therefore not weaker than the USSR and the United States. And he can afford, in particular, to return (and not give away for party reasons) Crimea and the World Order could only gnash his teeth.
      1. jPilot
        jPilot April 6 2014 19: 28
        +1
        It remains to write the words of the sent Cossack Prokhorov: "The USSR was bankrupt", one can feel another propaganda about what a bad country the USSR was. And as for the army, they did not serve at all or did not serve at all, maximum 2-rd urgent.
        Let's start in order: they bought grain, but we didn't have enough of our own for bread, so we also sold, but bought feed grain, according to my opinion, in Canada (but I could be wrong) i.e. for feed, about the reasons why they did not grow their own, but hr.n knows him. And they began to engage in the army only now, the collapse of the USSR and began with the collapse of the army, i.e. its discrediting in the media is not worth describing further because it will take up a lot of space and God forbid that the collapse of the Army with the dismissal of Serdyukov ends. I don't even want to write about the collapse of the military-industrial complex. In general, you are definitely wrong. By the way, what we now have as you write "Now Russia has just enough to burn both those and others," everything was designed and built in the USSR, and even reduced thanks to the liberals. Special thanks for this to Gorbachev, Yeltsin and others .... For only one ZhDRK with Yeltsin in the next world it is necessary to ask. If there is a desire, surf the Internet so much has been written about this and feel like ... an illiterate person
        1. hrych
          hrych April 6 2014 23: 29
          +3
          First of all, the USSR covered itself with a copper basin, you can cry or laugh, but history has already judged and nothing else is given. The fact that everything was designed in the USSR is no longer true, Topol-M, Bulava, etc., the brainchild of the Russian Federation. Naturally, all this is a school created earlier, but believe me, its foundation must be looked for even under the Tsar, when Mendeleev made it possible to create fuel, calculate the mass of an atomic nucleus, so that later it can be divided, and thanks to Tsiolkovsky for the rockets. That Yeltsin, that Gorby, there was still such a Khrushch, etc., all this rubbish, as a typical product of the Soviet system, which came to self-destruction. Of all the leaders, there was only Stalin, the rest was such disgusting from Trotsky to Lelik Brezhny, whom, although they remember him well, but only for a well-fed life, and he was drunk, climbed to kiss aspirated, hung medals to his knees, raised a "beautiful" daughter, etc. ., etc. I do not really need the advice of the literate, all this muck with the massacre of Russians from grateful swarthy "brothers", where did it come from? All this is a product of the disgusting communist blizzard, where the Great Russian people were brought to the altar of the Comintern blizzard. At first, the Zionokommunars deprived the name of our people by making our people simply Russians, then they appropriated a general dog name - Soviet, from the fucking root of the word advise. Russia is a thousand years old, she was sick with the Bolshevik infection for an insignificant 70 years and believe me, this disease will never threaten her again.
      2. jPilot
        jPilot April 6 2014 20: 37
        0
        Who would doubt, then got
      3. Robert49
        Robert49 April 6 2014 23: 29
        +2
        Already sick of agricultural specialists! For 35 years I have been working at one of the largest elevators in the Russian Federation (Nezhegolsky Elevator), and I declare: the USSR NEVER PURCHASED FOOD GRAINS ABROAD, it was enough for its eyes, only fodder, as the number of cattle was many times more than now! And in the dry years there wasn’t enough fodder! But you don’t want to talk about the yield and quality of grain, the drop is strong. You can find numbers on the Internet as far as the number of livestock has decreased. Dairy products are made from Chinese powder because cows almost no! Only Belarusians produce food according to Soviet guests! FOOD SECURITY IN THE USSR WAS MUCH MORE ABOUT, THIS IS A FACT! And THE OTHER THIS IS THE LIBERALS'S MIND!
      4. Robert49
        Robert49 April 6 2014 23: 29
        0
        Already sick of agricultural specialists! For 35 years I have been working at one of the largest elevators in the Russian Federation (Nezhegolsky Elevator), and I declare: the USSR NEVER PURCHASED FOOD GRAINS ABROAD, it was enough for its eyes, only fodder, as the number of cattle was many times more than now! And in the dry years there wasn’t enough fodder! But you don’t want to talk about the yield and quality of grain, the drop is strong. You can find numbers on the Internet as far as the number of livestock has decreased. Dairy products are made from Chinese powder because cows almost no! Only Belarusians produce food according to Soviet guests! FOOD SECURITY IN THE USSR WAS MUCH MORE ABOUT, THIS IS A FACT! And THE OTHER THIS IS THE LIBERALS'S MIND!
        1. hrych
          hrych April 6 2014 23: 49
          +3
          If you feel sick, you can vomit. Just start with the abundance of bread in the USSR, which lasted a miserable 70 years, when the first mass famine in 1921-1922. Regional and local problems with food and hunger among individual segments of the population caused by various factors periodically arose during 1923-1931. The second mass famine in the USSR erupted in 1932/33. during the period of collectivization, then about 7 million people died from hunger and diseases associated with malnutrition. During the periods of the famine of 1921-1922 and 1932-1933, repeated cases of cannibalism were noted on the basis of severe depletion of the population. And finally, after World War II, the population of the USSR seized the last mass famine of 1946/47 in the history of the Soviet Union. There are statistics, of course, where in particular the USSR bought 1977 million tons of grain in the USA in 78/14,6, and 1978 million in 79/15,7. So, dear expert on elevators, the USSR couldn’t feed itself constantly, at first he paid for the grain with gold and silver, then with oil and gas, but the main thing he constantly paid with corpses.
  14. novobranets
    novobranets April 6 2014 10: 20
    +7
    And the military instructors who were sent to the Ukrainians, I think, are not going to act against Russia, but will restore order in Ukraine itself, disarm the gangs that operate in the country.
    NATO instructors have long begun training terrorist groups in Ukraine. You can guess who is in the contingent of these groups. Http://warfiles.ru/show-51150-pravyy-sektor-pod-rukovodst
    vom-instruk
    torov-iz-ssha-gotovitsya-k-provedeniyu-teraktov-v-krymu-i-rossii.html
  15. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 6 2014 10: 21
    +3
    Theoretically, the United States can relocate a military base closer to Russia, for example, from Germany, but relocating will require very significant investments, which again, Americans will not do

    It’s like sanctions. They threaten, threaten, and do not apply - it is not profitable.

    .
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS April 6 2014 12: 56
      +1
      they sleep and see the base in Ukraine. will go for any money ...
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  16. ava09
    ava09 April 6 2014 10: 21
    +16
    The Ukrainian authorities are exaggerating the threat of Russia's invasion of Ukraine for one simple reason - an illegitimate power can only be supported by bayonets and intimidation of society with an external threat. For this we need the troops of the "Peacemaker", that is, NATO. These are the political technologies of our "Strategic Partners".
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 April 6 2014 11: 39
      +7
      About the Russian Military Threat and NATO’s rebuff: a man sits by a swamp and balamutit sticks with water, another asks - what are you doing? I’m dispersing crocodiles. So there are no crocodiles here! So I dispersed everyone.
    2. 120352
      120352 April 6 2014 12: 19
      +2
      Sudoplatov is not on them!
  17. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf April 6 2014 10: 22
    +2
    As it will be. As it will be
    Better than it was!
  18. erased
    erased April 6 2014 10: 23
    +6
    Then it’s not clear what the hell supplies are going to Afghanistan through Ulyanovsk? And are NATO observers still sitting with us? Is the air space of the Russian Federation closed to NATO aircraft going to Afghanistan?
    Or again, our play giveaways?
    1. real
      real April 6 2014 20: 03
      0
      If Putin had not provided Ulyanovsk to NATO, then NATO would have taken advantage of Chimkent, or Tashkent, or Dushanbe ... And so in Ulyanovsk the situation is under control! Putin chose the lesser of evils !!!
  19. konvalval
    konvalval April 6 2014 10: 25
    +1
    There was no particular benefit from this collaboration. Musol about missile defense in Europe to no avail, that’s practically all the cooperation.
    1. asar
      asar April 6 2014 13: 17
      0
      You're right! Enough to "shake" the air! Whether or not there is cooperation - and NATO is getting closer to us, they were on the "drum" of our remarks! So are they worth cooperating with us ?!
    2. Lelek
      Lelek April 6 2014 13: 24
      +7
      The benefits were enormous ...
  20. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 6 2014 10: 27
    +5
    As one song sings: what pain, what pain ... Ay-ah. You cannot lose what you don’t have. So it is with cooperation with NATO. To believe any of their promises is also impossible. It is also not allowed to enter Ukraine. But you can scare them with our next exercises.
  21. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 April 6 2014 10: 33
    +7
    from the Don.
    All this movement of NATO (read USA), Fart towards Russia!
  22. Vadim12
    Vadim12 April 6 2014 10: 34
    +11
    I do not know why, but I like that they call Russia "scary" and "dangerous". Let them be afraid. wink
  23. mabuta
    mabuta April 6 2014 10: 34
    +43
    NATO has never been a bloc friendly to Russia, and never will be. As the bloc was created to put pressure on the USSR and then Russia, that will be it. And no illusions.
    1. Renat
      Renat April 6 2014 10: 44
      +14
      My opinion is that no one thought about the fact that NATO is friends to us, or at least not enemies. We are all sure that they are real enemies. And mean and insidious.
      1. 120352
        120352 April 6 2014 11: 16
        +6
        Renat
        With the enemy, in order to act effectively, it is necessary to use methods that destroy him, and not himself. We had the opposite! Now we need to change tactics. But the strategy is the same: the enemy must be destroyed!
  24. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 6 2014 10: 35
    +11
    Collaboration with a potential adversary was initially a bad idea. Only fools and traitors did not understand this.
    1. 120352
      120352 April 6 2014 11: 13
      +1
      Kazakov
      If intelligently, then this was to become not cooperation, but activity on the territory of the enemy. Something like a partisan movement. And more agitation and propaganda, attracting our population to our side, i.e. of what they took Ukraine! WITH
      this is still weak with us!
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 6 2014 11: 37
      +2
      Quote: Cossacks
      Collaboration with a potential adversary was initially a bad idea. Only fools and traitors did not understand this.

      But what about Mr. B.N. Yeltsin, who flew to the USA and announced: having flown around the statue of liberty, he became two free? Write it in which category?
      1. asar
        asar April 6 2014 13: 22
        +1
        Well, how can the "chronicle" relate to the statements of the patient! Who in the world took him seriously? Another "escapade" after another libation! Drunk - he is drunk! This is the category! wassat
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 6 2014 18: 07
          +1
          Quote: asar
          Who in the world took him seriously?

          No, dear, just he was taken seriously by his Western patron friends, who needed his clumsy signature on key documents! The whole meanness of this "common man" is that he understood what he had done and still continued to shit on Russia!
          1. izGOI
            izGOI April 7 2014 03: 32
            +1
            Seriously, not seriously .. Already they began to forget how for EBN-and under the BMP climbed. The last two Heroes of the Soviet Union, for those events. And how at all corners they shouted "Boris, fight!" also began to forget. YOURSELF !!! this drunk on his own well ... and made the president. I am writing because if we forget, we can ruin Russia for good.
      2. Vadim12
        Vadim12 April 6 2014 22: 07
        0
        Alcoholism. Severe, difficult to treat, neglected stage!
  25. kondor-espada
    kondor-espada April 6 2014 10: 36
    +1
    Quote: Sakhalininets
    All this cheap rascal looks like a grand fire in a brothel during a flood. It is necessary to stupidly bury the corridor to Afghanistan, and on all other issues it is necessary to send Brussels assassins along with their Phillington regional committee
    That's right, and still bring your peacekeeping troops to Ukraine to maintain order in the country, stop the rampant gangsterism and separatism, immediately arrest the entire Kiev junta or rather political criminals - or to give a damn about it, along with their threats and sanctions - more than that equally they cannot do anything. Shorter act tough. And by the way, the United States themselves would say that for example we would establish our order in Mexico and place our military contingent there! To this argument, the answer is clear!
  26. mabuta
    mabuta April 6 2014 10: 41
    +6
    From these pictures from Lithuania, you can see NATO instructors with future "revolutionaries". These muzzles will soon wear balaclavas.
    1. 120352
      120352 April 6 2014 11: 09
      +4
      And for a bullet of a balaclava - not a barrier! Meet you. It would be something.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo April 6 2014 17: 25
      +3
      Zoom into stands: particularly dangerous criminals.
  27. Name
    Name April 6 2014 10: 42
    +16
    NATO suspends cooperation with Russia and will help Ukraine. laughing This will be the motto for Ukraine:
    1. waisson
      waisson April 6 2014 19: 06
      +5
      and Ukraine there too
  28. mabuta
    mabuta April 6 2014 10: 50
    +27
    So it was and will be if NATO goes over the line.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek April 6 2014 13: 28
      +13
      Or such a pretzel ...
      1. 120352
        120352 April 6 2014 16: 10
        +3
        Our man! Caring ...
  29. dimarm74
    dimarm74 April 6 2014 10: 53
    +3
    NATO is no longer a very effective structure. The United States is always moaning that they alone are pulling the whole team, while the other "members" have only reduced their armies and are sitting around the amers' necks. If Ukraine and Georgia are still put there ... no matter how ... the Anglo-Saxons. Let them accept, only we need to take the South and East of course.
  30. osv_osv
    osv_osv April 6 2014 10: 55
    +3
    1 NATO, by its nature, was originally directed against the USSR.
    2 "Cooperation" with NATO is a myth. Why talk about it - ???
    3 Pressure on RUSSIA (political, economic, informational) will only increase
    4 .. and so on

    How do we answer -
    1 A clear policy - Recognize - not only the presence of 5 columns, but also the pro-Western layer - the Khakamads, Nemtsov, Novodvorskie ... just will not leave the stage.
    2 Review dip. missions (USA, Germany, Estonia, ..), but we need political WILL.
    3 Refusal of gas supplies to Europe. Need a break in this relationship.
    4 Refusal to accept Dol and Euros in all banks + return of foreign currency deposits! Most of the population, their currency deposits, simply do not have. Reducing the RUBLE budget is barely

    It is possible to enumerate the response to aggressive policy for a long time, but will that be the point?
    Will those in power hear us ...
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 6 2014 17: 32
      +1
      PP 2 and 3 are unacceptable - this is the path to self-isolation. Otherwise, everything is correct.
      From oral it just makes me sick. Daddy Dudkin and his son went to Merikosia and you are fighters with the regime. Mudaltsov, Novodvorskaya and Alekseeva, well, this is just a clinical case. Kulikov, who sold pardons under Yeltsin and went to Grozny the first time in Chechnya and, using a walkie-talkie from Dudayev’s headquarters, tried to persuade our guys (I saw this moment on TV) to surrender: for him, the flag is a rag, his eyes bulging in front of the TV journalist said so old macaque. And those guys who believed and surrendered, are they alive? Somebody knows?
      1. borad
        borad April 6 2014 23: 15
        0
        And this waders still alive and not sitting? Well, I do. Where is Russia going, where is Putin looking?
  31. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 6 2014 10: 56
    +5
    Hmm, if Ukraine joins NATO, then not only dry packs will be sold on sites ... In general, the story with dry packs is very indicative of Ukraine in general.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 6 2014 18: 08
      0
      Quote: Zomanus
      In general, the story with dry rations is very indicative of Ukraine in general.

      The Minister of Defense of Hoh Lostan, to prove that he was an officer should have shot himself!
      But in my opinion only Russians, Germans, perhaps even Japanese are capable of this, all the rest are not officers, but military managers!
      And for the "honor of the manager" no one will shoot! And what is it ....?
  32. polite people
    polite people April 6 2014 10: 56
    +4
    Yes, many foreign instructors lay down forever and turned into Georgian humus.
    Who wants to become humus in Ukraine - go for it. But probably they’ll hardly climb.
    1. asar
      asar April 6 2014 13: 34
      +3
      Well, Russia "did" both the Georgians and the Western instructors (vaunted!) Or once did you not have enough intelligence to get enough ?! After the "Compulsion to Peace", the West also threatened Russia with a "fist", how much verbal "diarrhea" have we heard ?! So what? They yelled and calmed down! So, whether Russia will have cooperation with NATO, the European Union and the like, "empty offices" or not, our country is neither cold nor hot from this!
  33. kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 April 6 2014 10: 56
    +16
    So the newly-minted "team" from Ukraine wants to lie under the West! ..
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 6 2014 17: 33
      +2
      Why he wants, they have already laid down, everyone in Merikosia has an alternate airfield.
  34. LIS 25
    LIS 25 April 6 2014 10: 57
    0
    Ukraine NATO is not needed without the Crimea.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 6 2014 17: 34
      +2
      Of course, this is an airfield, ports, bases. If it were not for the "polite people", merikashki would have landed. I wonder how far ahead of them we are?
      1. izGOI
        izGOI April 7 2014 03: 39
        0
        I read in the Portuguese press for 30 hours.
  35. fregina1
    fregina1 April 6 2014 10: 57
    +3
    Need a hit on the dollar! By am! Without ov, this whole office just goes bad !!!!
  36. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro April 6 2014 10: 57
    +3
    <<< Thus, there is no doubt that after May 25 - the day of the Ukrainian elections - the new government of the "independent" will become even closer friends with NATO. ..... referring to the threat to Russia, (Ukraine) is trying to become a NATO member. >>>
    It seems that the Kiev authorities and their curators in the West were so frightened by "polite people" that they put them in their pants, not knowing what to do! Therefore, out of fear of losing the South-East of Ukraine now, NATO will, after the presidential elections, agree with Ukraine on some form of cooperation that would allow it to send its troops into the territory of Nizalezhnaya! Naturally, now, in order not to provoke the South-East and "polite people" NATO is in no hurry to announce these plans!
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    1. sanek0207
      sanek0207 April 6 2014 16: 11
      +3
      Georgians grabbed! But the square clutch is more familiar, then Hitler's "kneaded" now the mattress mats will be crushed !!! Such a mentality !!!
    2. sanek0207
      sanek0207 April 6 2014 16: 11
      +1
      Georgians grabbed! But the square clutch is more familiar, then Hitler's "kneaded" now the mattress mats will be crushed !!! Such a mentality !!!
  38. 120352
    120352 April 6 2014 11: 04
    +6
    Ukraine will not be allowed into NATO. Even on the doorstep. Like in the European Union. Papers that mean nothing but bait can not be called. So Ukraine will sit on the hook of the EU and - neither there nor here!
    But NATO is not Sobes, they are not serving there, namely, they are striving there for handouts of hohl. But Ukraine has nothing to do there, since it cannot give anything to the same NATO.
    We don’t need NATO! They do not want to cooperate with us - do not let them go to our airfields, to airspace, to the SEVORMPUT, to ports, territorial waters, to deprive them of the possibility of transit from Afghanistan through our territory. Drive out from everywhere! And sit silently, doing their job, increasing military power, strengthening borders and gathering the Russian World around them. This is for the long term. And they will begin to apologize, so be it, consider in due course, three years after the appeal.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 6 2014 17: 37
      +3
      Perhaps I'm wrong, but the first "project" of cooperation with ebropia is a nuclear and other waste dump. They will give so-so money, they will not run out of debt.
      Kickbacks will not allow eggs to resist and bargain.
  39. Delink
    Delink April 6 2014 11: 05
    +5
    Russia without NATa is simply magnificent, since there was nothing else besides the exercises. They learned how to behave with us in case of war against us. They looked closely at how we act in certain situations. Only.
  40. patriot123
    patriot123 April 6 2014 11: 06
    +3
    helpers were found too !! Russia does not need such "friends" for nothing !!! frightened a pancake !!
  41. Sergg
    Sergg April 6 2014 11: 08
    +4
    Russia + NATO = always considered this a farce.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 6 2014 18: 17
      +1
      Quote: Sergg
      Russia + NATO = always considered this a farce.

      I would like to add "a dangerous farce", and even "a farce harmful and treacherous for us!"
  42. 1536
    1536 April 6 2014 11: 09
    +6
    Yes that all NATO, yes NATO ... When our troops left Germany and Europe in the early 1990s, these countries were in full control of the US Army and were actually occupied by them, tk. the forces holding them back were gone. Deeply despising the peoples of Europe, the Americans are preparing the fate of Ukraine for the whole world (Yugoslavia was only a prelude and, betrayed by all, fell apart into separate states, and no one learned any lessons from this). And if, God forbid, "NATO troops" start any military operations against us, then American generals and officers, instructors and mercenaries will drive them into battle. This is the geopolitical reality that our order bearer achieved - the last general secretary, well, God be his judge. Therefore, it makes no sense to talk about anything with Europeans. In my opinion, Ukraine must now be saved. There, on its territory, the wildest campaign of disinformation of society about Russia and its intentions was unleashed, which began to bear fruit. And the Americans are running this Goebbels' company through the media, including their military. All forces must be thrown to counteract the Americans so that they feel the full force of the truth that they are trying to hide by deceiving the peoples of Europe and Ukraine, primarily from TV screens and via the Internet. Ukrainians are obliged to transfer five hryvnias to the army, and I would definitely transfer five hundred rubles to a satellite that would ensure a stable broadcast on the territory of Ukraine of truthful information about what is happening in Russia and the world, first of all, debunking the actions of the United States.
    1. IgorM
      IgorM April 6 2014 18: 57
      +2
      The absolute truth. Information from Russia should go in a wide flow to Ukraine, preferably directly, through all types of communications.
  43. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz April 6 2014 11: 09
    +2
    The circus left, but the clowns remained. Well. Let them just answer one question. And we will surrender.: And WHAT?
  44. dimarm74
    dimarm74 April 6 2014 11: 10
    0
    Quote: Goldmitro
    <<< Therefore, it is quite likely, out of fear of losing the South-East of Ukraine, NATO after the presidential elections will agree with Ukraine on some form of cooperation, allowing it to send its troops into the territory of Nizalezhnaya! Naturally, now, so as not to provoke the South-East and "polite people" NATO is in no hurry to announce these plans!


    How to give a drink will introduce ... We just need to not be late, and catch a meeting .... on the Dnieper
  45. 111 soldier
    111 soldier April 6 2014 11: 12
    +7
    fewer eyes will be on our territory !! and we drowned in their "help" !!
  46. La xnumx
    La xnumx April 6 2014 11: 12
    +4
    Russia without NATO friendly assistance

    Russia is inconsolable! laughing laughing laughing
  47. delfinN
    delfinN April 6 2014 11: 13
    +18
    NATO considers itself the arbiter of fate, BUT ...
    1. waisson
      waisson April 6 2014 19: 12
      +12
      all once descend from heaven
      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 April 7 2014 07: 26
        0
        Eastern wisdom knows no bounds!
  48. Stinger
    Stinger April 6 2014 11: 14
    +3
    The wider NATO, the more aiming points. As Zhvanetsky says "One careless movement - and you are a father"
  49. Arh
    Arh April 6 2014 11: 15
    +1
    But it would be better without NATO !!!)))
  50. upasika1918
    upasika1918 April 6 2014 11: 24
    +14
    All this has already happened. Deceived, scalped, folded. Hundred million. Europeans know how.