What is it like to be Russian in Ukraine: refugees told about robbery and oppression

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What is it like to be Russian in Ukraine: refugees told about robbery and oppression


Every day it becomes more and more difficult for the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine. This is told by people who are not from a good life fled from their homes. Their flow to Russia does not dry up. What are people running from and from?

Even two weeks after fleeing from Kiev, Tatyana Vladimirovna Isaeva cannot recover. Pain, fear and misunderstanding: how did the mother of Russian cities so quickly become a cruel stepmother for her children? “On buildings, on pillars in Kiev it is written:“ To every moskal - by lantern ”, this is the smallest, says Tatiana, a refugee.“ Of course, there is an even worse inscription. The Russian population is persecuted there. ”

And one can only guess what Tatiana Isaeva had to go through. In the store, Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine suddenly stop selling bread. And on the border, like old Soviet films about the civil war, they are robbed. “There are people in masks standing there. They call themselves the“ new government, ”says Tatyana.“ They take away all things. ” Now Tatyana Vladimirovna lives with her elder brother in the village of Liman. The personnel officer and his entire family surrounded her sister with care.

Two months ago, Dasha Savelya came to her fiance in Astrakhan from the Ukrainian Nikolayev. The young woman is deeply perturbed by the oppression in Ukraine of those who speak Russian, and masked bandits, and the ban on holding anti-Maid rallies. But that is not all. “I still have studies - incomplete higher education,” says Daria. “Since I got married here in Russia, the question has now arisen of excluding me from the institute. Say, what was my right to marry a citizen of Russia?” My rights are completely violated as a citizen of Ukraine. "

In the Astrakhan region, more than 20 families from Ukraine have applied for temporary asylum in Russia. The document allows you to live and work freely within the quotas allocated for foreign citizens. Most refugees expect to subsequently receive Russian citizenship.

“As for obtaining Russian citizenship, at present, the simplified procedure, which has been talked about so much, has not yet entered into force,” explains Diana Kochetkova, head of the department of citizenship issues, refugees and IDPs in the Astrakhan region. not today - tomorrow it will come into force, and we will provide all explanations with the help of the media. "

And today for the Crimeans, who are still citizens of Ukraine, but now live in the Astrakhan region, a good one has come news. To get a Russian passport to the Crimea is not necessary to return. The document can be obtained in the department of the Federal Migration Service at the place of actual residence.
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  1. +10
    April 1 2014 06: 57
    Say, what right did I have to marry a citizen of Russia? My rights as a citizen of Ukraine are completely violated. "


    Ethnic cleansing will continue if it is not stopped at all levels.

    The Kiev Junta is united with the right sector in the issue of suppressing the Russian population ... how
    all this is familiar from the Baltic States. One performance by FARION in kindergarten is worth ...

    I believe it is necessary to tighten pressure on the WEST in this matter, it is necessary to force Westerners (Galicians) even under pain of arms to stop the persecution of the civilian population, otherwise this will ultimately result in ethnic bloodshed.
    1. +6
      April 1 2014 07: 16
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Ethnic cleansing will continue if it is not stopped at all levels.

      I agree ... Russians now in Ukraine are the main brake on the spread of fascism. Which means they will force them out, destroy or Ukrainize them by all means ..
      1. +2
        April 1 2014 07: 21
        It would be nice to deport all citizens of Ukraine to their homeland, or let them receive Russian passports with the renunciation of citizenship of Ukraine. It seems like a serious divorce from Ukraine.
        1. +3
          April 1 2014 07: 43
          Quote: Canep
          It would be nice to deport all citizens of Ukraine to their homeland,

          And what's the point? We’ll get a couple more million offended. That's all. Let them work so far. They, I talked a lot with such people, I won’t go home myself ... Most of them even lost contact with their families ... They play the role of such wallets and communication with Ukraine only with passports. They collect a bunch, one carries on the border, puts everything on all the new stamps ...
  2. +5
    April 1 2014 06: 58
    Here is the fascist rabble. ("new government")! am They will finish badly ..., then they will scatter into all the cracks and again will be "kind, peaceful" inhabitants ... Typu, rot ..
    I sympathize with the Russian-speaking in Ukraine .. (
  3. +11
    April 1 2014 07: 01
    This is a disaster. Russians need to unite in groups and give a physical rebuff, while everyone will fight for himself, nothing will work out.
    1. +3
      April 1 2014 07: 22
      Quote: Bob0859
      Russians need to unite in groups and give a physical rebuff,

      We are trying little by little, but you yourself understand that you will not act very actively so far!
  4. +1
    April 1 2014 07: 02
    Let all our people come to live in Russia, and let them gnaw at each other there, there will be nobody after all.
    1. +2
      April 1 2014 07: 11
      Better not ours go to their place in the muhoskk ZU, and there they tear each other's throats. Polite people to the southeast!
    2. +3
      April 1 2014 07: 13
      Only together with their land, as Crimeans)
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  5. +2
    April 1 2014 07: 05
    Everything goes on the road. The script has long been worked out.
    This is where today's life of the Maidan is shown and an attempt is made to understand.
    "The Maidan turns into the Zaporozhye Sich: We went to the Eurobal, got to the Euroshabash."
    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26213/3097725/
  6. +5
    April 1 2014 07: 08
    It would be interesting to see if our authorities took and banned millions of Ukrainians from working in Russia and evicted them back to Ukraine, what would happen? I think there on the same day these same Ukrainians would have expressed their "gratitude" in the form of Maidan 3.0 to their new government, which it right-sided, by their inaction in relation to the Russians in Ukraine.
    1. +2
      April 1 2014 07: 25
      We are not them. These are not our methods. And it’s a pity to evict people for a hungry existence. It’s not they who stood on the Maidan - they worked in Russia.
  7. +4
    April 1 2014 07: 18
    until they organize and arm themselves with Russian firearms in Ukraine they will humiliate.
  8. +3
    April 1 2014 07: 21
    In the store, Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine suddenly stop selling bread.
    I don’t know, I don’t know ... Every day I buy bread, the sellers themselves turn to me in Russian (the Ukrainian-speaking seller still needs to be found). Nobody has beaten anyone’s face for Russian yet. I do not know, right ...
    1. +1
      April 1 2014 07: 25
      Quote: Old_Kapitan
      Nobody has beaten anyone’s face for Russian yet. I don’t know, right ...

      There were such cases in Kiev, and more than once! Only know about it in their own area. this information does not go further. "Big city", however.
    2. +3
      April 1 2014 07: 49
      Now everyone has their own truth ... Budey so to speak a shtetl .. somewhere like this, somewhere else. Because you're both right.
      But it seems to me that the hysteria that is unfolded in the Ukrainian media is bearing fruit. Most of the population still believes in the aggressiveness of Russia. Which translates into everything Russian ...
    3. +1
      April 1 2014 08: 09
      Quote: Old_Kapitan
      Nobody has beaten anyone’s face for Russian yet. I don’t know, right ...

      I believe that we also have informational stuffing in the media, which is an element of the information struggle. Sometimes you look at the plot box that their production, that of ours, and quite roughly made agitation is regularly met. Not all Simonov’s correspondents submit reports from the fields in different ways, and even the editors put their hands on it - that’s how stories about eating babies and drinking blood from enemies from both parties involved in the informational confrontation are obtained.
      1. 0
        April 1 2014 08: 52
        I believe that we also have information injections in the media, which is an element of the information struggle.
        I agree. But ... In many ways it depends on people. On one of the forums I read: "I just arrived from Chernigov: my nose is broken, my teeth are knocked out, all in bruises - I was beaten twice for the Russian language." I write: "Have a conscience, I have been living in Chernigov since 82, 90% of the time I speak Russian - I have never been beaten." And what do you think? In a couple of hours, the number of minuses exceeded a hundred. As well as the number of pluses "beaten".
  9. +2
    April 1 2014 07: 21
    So where are these OSCE inspectors? Why not hear their allegations of human rights violations!
    1. 0
      April 1 2014 18: 08
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      So where are these OSCE inspectors? Why not hear their allegations of human rights violations!

      they play the other side ...
  10. +2
    April 1 2014 07: 23
    Over 23 g, a new generation of Ukrainians raised on nationalism has grown. And it will be difficult to change something. Now even in the Central Asian republics, the attitude towards the Russians is more tolerant than in Ukraine.
  11. GRune
    +1
    April 1 2014 07: 30
    Let the liberals re-post it on Echo ... Let the local public consider this to be Kremlin propaganda.
  12. +2
    April 1 2014 07: 32
    At one time, the distribution came to Ukraine. The obscure tendencies of a special attitude towards the Russians were striking. My fears were angrily rejected even by my colleagues. To the fact that this is not all of a sudden.
  13. +1
    April 1 2014 07: 46
    It’s not necessary to press Ukraine, but their Western sponsors. And do it as hard as possible. To understand what game started.
  14. 0
    April 1 2014 07: 58
    Quote: AleksPol
    Over 23 g, a new generation of Ukrainians raised on nationalism has grown. And it will be difficult to change something. Now even in the Central Asian republics, the attitude towards the Russians is more tolerant than in Ukraine.

    I do not agree a bit! A generation of loafers has grown up who do not want and will not work! For bucks on the Maidan, waving flags, but eating a hunk is easier than working hard. I’m judging by my spouse’s relatives. Yes, and when I’m in Ukraine, I see all this myself! The market in the morning is full of merchants and all sorts of husks. And the enterprises are standing. My attitude towards the Ukrainian people has changed a long time ago. And not for the better.
    As already wrote:
    Who are we? -Ukrainians!
    How do we live?
    What are we doing to change everything? -Nothing!
    Who is to blame for this? -M.O.S.K.A.L. and !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. +1
      April 1 2014 08: 45
      In the morning the market is packed with merchants and any shelupony. And businesses are worth it.
      Don't confuse cause and effect. It is not the enterprises that are standing still because the market is clogged, but the market is clogged, because the enterprises are standing still. Did you stand in the market? I stood when for six months! sent to your account. Damn it, this "doing nothing".
      1. 0
        April 1 2014 09: 48
        So we had it in the 90s, we went through it and we wish you the same with less loss. But without Russia, jobs will be reduced. And Russophobia will not lead to anything good.
        1. 0
          April 1 2014 10: 53
          But without Russia, jobs will be reduced.
          Ha! Who would have doubted! Just try to explain it with "this". At best, the eyes turn glass, at worst, foam at the mouth.
          And Russophobia will not lead to anything good
          Already did not lead ...
  15. +2
    April 1 2014 08: 05
    Document everything and at one point poke the West in the face. To once again be convinced of the deceit and hypocrisy thereof by the example of their answers. Their goals are clear and everything is in our hands.
    My personal opinion is: pick up the South-East (politely), cover the rest tightly with the borders and let them die. Fascist TV ... no place on earth. And over time, when the time comes, we will clean these territories from the remnants of the plague. soldier Go Russia!
  16. +1
    April 1 2014 09: 30
    It will be expected that you cannot solve the problem without the Russian army.
  17. 0
    April 1 2014 09: 43
    But really. With our orders for Ukrainian enterprises, we feed the new Ukrainian government. And by paying the labor of Ukrainian Gaster we feed the new Ukrainian government. Because if money ceases to go from Russia to Ukraine, these pullbacks in a week will be uplifted by hungry residents. And while we will thus feed the new Ukrainian power, FIG when the East of Ukraine rises to fight. Im so good ...
  18. Sledgehammer
    0
    April 1 2014 10: 21
    They must speak, they must be decided in the end.
    After all, they perfectly understand that what will happen only worse.
    There is an example under the nose, the Baltic countries, that’s what
    waiting for them. So why procrastinate, I don’t understand. Russians will end
    they will rot their own, so that they do not act!
  19. Slobozhanin
    +1
    April 1 2014 10: 55
    Bullshit !!! I will not say anything for my native Kharkov (everything is fine with us), but this is not even in Kiev! Aunt apparently sooo needed to go to Russia, so she was quiet. It's my personal opinion.
  20. Vital 33
    -1
    April 1 2014 11: 13
    Lord !!! You gave people brains, but you did not teach everyone to use them ...
    Are there really people who believe in this H.E.R.N.YU ???? !!!! belay
  21. 0
    April 1 2014 12: 55
    That's just some garbage, poorly trusted.
  22. Leshka
    0
    April 1 2014 15: 19
    soak p.i.d.o. angry
  23. 0
    April 1 2014 15: 59
    If this is true, then ... History tells us that the one who oppressed the Russians, as a rule, did not live for a long time. But Banderlog, they don't teach history. They don't need her. The main thing for them now is that the zmoboy is dripping onto the brains (if any). Then they will really cry and say that "they are not guilty." It will be too late. The competent authorities will figure out who is to blame and who is not. But they will punish everyone who is more and who is less. Some for action, and others for inaction. am
  24. -1
    April 1 2014 18: 17
    Another example, among Ukrainians traveling from Ukraine to Russia, border guards tear passports, on the orders of Nalivaichenko and Avarov ...
    1. 0
      April 1 2014 18: 24
      another example from the forum http://www.migalki.org
      A peasant of 55 years old came to us from Kiev, got a job as a locksmith. He’s giggling, a mustache like Taras Bulba’s, well, a real one, not a leftist. He talked for life, said that he was on the Maidan. Such gentlemen gathered there, according to his story.
      1. The camp is believers in a better life, who firmly believe that as soon as they fly into Euros on a grand scale, they will begin to live like Americans, bark seeds on the walls and pick fat in McDonald's.
      2. These are the helmsmen who rule the herd.
      3. This is the bulk and these are mercenaries. There are Germans, Americans, blacks, Baltic states and so on. From the story, he counted 12 hundred mercenaries. On the day, payment was 100 bucks if there were no combat. If there were collisions with a golden eagle or with someone else. That paid 300 bucks. To the question, but did you get the hell out of bucks for easy? He answered - what am I fucking? I packed my things and left, I need to feed my family. And he regretted that napalm in the bud did not burn all b at once, while they sat together in the square.
      This is a blast for life with an ordinary Ukrainians, a hard worker peasant.
      If someone does not believe, his business, but he’s used to answering for the bazaar, so I won’t write garbage.
  25. Slobozhanin
    -1
    April 1 2014 23: 18
    Quote: PSih2097
    Another example, among Ukrainians traveling from Ukraine to Russia, border guards tear passports, on the orders of Nalivaichenko and Avarov ...


    What are you carrying? You still say they shoot and bury them in ditches (which the newly-minted governor of Donetsk region dug up, who had never served in the army :))
    Personally, last week I went to my relatives in the Voronezh region, the inspection was a little closer, but without fanaticism on both sides.
  26. Vaik
    -1
    April 1 2014 23: 57
    Russians at the gunpoint of the Nazis posing on the Maidan))) the author and actors of the video are full iplans and incendiaries of ethnic hatred!
    1. +1
      April 2 2014 00: 14
      Quote: Vaik
      Russians at gunpoint fascists posing on the Maidan

      On, train.
      http://www.photoshop-master.ru/