The trucks seized in Ukraine were returned to KAMAZ

The 43 KAMAZ vehicles illegally seized in Ukraine were transferred to their legal owners - the KAMAZ Trading Company in Chernihiv, the automaker press service reports. KAMAZ vehicles were shipped from the company's warehouse in Chernigov to Kazakhstan.

“... 43 of the car, which were seized by unknown people in Ukraine, were transferred to their rightful owners - the KAMAZ trading company in Chernihiv,” the automaker said in a statement.

A consignment of KAMAZ vehicles intended for distilling to Kazakhstan was seized on March 16 by armed men who introduced themselves as Maidan self-defense fighters.

On the outskirts of Chernigov, the KAMAZ convoy was stopped by armed men, who demanded to show the documents on the basis of which the vehicles were being exported. They were presented a declaration confirming the export to Kazakhstan. Private security forces called in the place of representatives of the police and traffic police.

The arguments of the representatives of the Russian side that the column was moving to Kazakhstan, and the products were not state property, were not perceived. Since then, the trucks were under the control of the "Right Sector".

KAMAZ - the largest Russian enterprise for the production of trucks. It includes more than 150 organizations located in Russia, the CIS and other countries, including 12 large automotive factories. It has assembly plants in Vietnam, Iran, India, Kazakhstan, and Pakistan. The number of employees exceeds 59 thousand people.

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[tilovaykrisa]

We return the tanks to them and the only submarine they give us is our Kamaz trucks, as it is unfair

[Riperbahn]

We do not need their scrap metal.

[Lissyara]

Right! I understood why they needed KamAZ trucks. This is the only technique that can drive on its own, independently.
Accordingly, they calculated on it their rubbish scrap metal from the Crimea to take out

[Ezhaak]

Quote: LiSSyara

calculated on it their rubbish scrap metal from the Crimea to take out

Explain why "Right" scrap metal, Just yesterday a message slipped through that at the recreation center, guarded by "Right" in the period of March 26-29, icons and paintings worth $ 900000 had evaporated. This is more valuable than scrap metal.

[Lissyara]

Eugene, there is a good old good proverb. "A penny saves the ruble." So everything is in a box.
Maybe they have commercial goals, for example, not to remelt the pieces of iron, but to drive a couple of Estonian tanks, thereby increasing the armored grouping of this state to 3 units.

[jjj]

They tried to steal in the millions. But in this business another skill is needed. This is not a trifle in my pockets to rub

[zanoza]

Quote: jjj

They tried to steal in the millions. But in this business another skill is needed. This is not a trifle in my pockets to rub

Have you ever wondered why the KAMYZs manufactured in Naberezhnye Chelny (Tatarstan, Russia) for Kazakhstan ended up in Chernigov (Ukraine) ??? Here, obviously, some kind of financial scam. "A thief stole a club from a thief"
Therefore, everything was resolved so "peacefully" and with apologies. They rubbed it on the arrow and everything was decided according to concepts. It can be seen that the o-very influential person behind the whole KAMAZ deal has melted.

[Lissyara]

LLC "Chernihiv Autocentre KAMAZ" was created in 1981 year in the framework of the program for the development of the service network of KAMAZ OJSC in Ukraine and is a subsidiary of KAMAZ OJSC. Today, the auto center has the status of the official dealer of KAMAZ OJSC for automobiles and spare parts in Ukraine and the official service center of KAMAZ OJSC
LLC "Chernigov Autocentre KAMAZ" provides a full range of services for the sale of complete KAMAZ vehicles and spare parts for it, as well as for the maintenance and repair of trucks.
At one time, Toyota announced the possibility of exporting vehicles assembled in our country (in the Russian Federation) (it was planned to supply Russian-made Camry to Europe), Volkswagen and Ford.
Although yes, with self-propelled equipment to Kazakhstan is far away. Naberezhnye Chelny seems to be closer.

[sniper]

Quote: LiSSyara

Although yes, with self-propelled equipment to Kazakhstan is far away. Naberezhnye Chelny seems to be closer.

Hello, Sergey ! It seems like everything is simple, the presence of trucks in the dealership is commonplace, and in the light of recent events in Ukraine, the probability of their sale is zero, so the cars were transferred to fulfill a new contract ... Something like this in my opinion ...

[officer29]

[quote = sniper] threw cars to execute a new contract ...
There is nothing surprising! My friend bought a car, but there was no desired in a car dealership, the desired was in a completely different region. So a week later he drove the right car and the price did not affect.

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

Well, do not invent! The press reported- In connection with the drop in sales in Ukraine, in connection with recent events, it was decided to transfer them to a dealer in the Republic of Kazakhstan (where people are preparing for the sowing, not gutting) It's simple!

[sniper]

Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN

- In connection with the drop in sales in Ukraine, in connection with recent events, it was decided to transfer them to a dealer in the Republic of Kazakhstan

So I kind of wrote the same thing ....

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

... It was I ZANOZA who answered ......................!

[APASUS]

Quote: zanoza

Have you ever wondered why the KAMYZs manufactured in Naberezhnye Chelny (Tatarstan, Russia) for Kazakhstan ended up in Chernigov (Ukraine) ??? Here, obviously, some kind of financial scam.

At the moment, it is unrealistic to sell the new Kamaz in the country, the country is on the verge, so all the cars were thrown to Kazakhstan. I hope there is no need to explain how the dealership works?
And they returned them for a simple reason.
Kamaz shares are owned by European companies

11% owned by Daimler;
4,25% is owned by KAMAZ International Management CO., LP;
4% is controlled by the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development;

Losses of Kamaz - losses of Europeans, the command to return came from Europe, everything is just like God's day!

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

Vai colleague ... KAMAZ has long been owned by AvtoVAZ - 49,9% of the shares are owned by the state-owned corporation Russian Technologies;
20,81% controls Avtoinvest Limited / Autoinvest Limited;
11% is owned by Daimler (the package in 10% was sold to Daimler by Troika Dialog for $ 250 million at the beginning of December 2008);
4,25% is owned by KAMAZ International Management CO., LP;
4% is controlled by the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development;
3,72% is controlled by KAMAZ Financial Leasing Company LLC;
.............. Three, Rostec is all VAZ

[VKabanov]

So you do not know how to escalate

It is necessary to write not "increasing the armored grouping of this state to 3 units.", But "increasing the armored grouping of this state 3 times!"

[Val_y]

Exactly, on TSN channel 1 + 1 they would say so (how did they get sick of this with their whipping up), the Russian channels were turned off, but it’s impossible to watch Ukrainian channels, we have been trying not to watch such negativity and whipping for a month now (look, it’s sucks to become such a heresy

[kotyara]

Only the restoration of this scrap metal will take half the cost of new equipment, Estonia will not pull it!

[theadenter]

It is terrible for the Ukrainian fighters who will be forced to control this junk ...

[svp67]

Quote: theadenter

It is terrible for the Ukrainian fighters who will be forced to control this junk ...

Our army at all, generally somsem was RECENTLY in the same condition ... New equipment began to arrive in massive quantities only, but this is not even the point, but also that the old Soviet one just had to be properly maintained and I I assure you, she would never fail, it’s very reliable ...

[Nonik]

We have somewhere in the warehouses of long-term storage somewhere around 13000 T62 tanks ... So the Ukrainian T62B is still a breakthrough.
Yes, they have new ones, 86 pieces. T90 How many do we have there?

[timurpl]

Quote: Riperbahn

We do not need their scrap metal.

Yes, they do not need him! Can the Negroes go for a bit of scrap metal?

[Ptah]

Quote: Riperbahn

We do not need their(?????) scrap metal.

I myself, a person, although inclined (sometimes) to sybarism, but very economical, therefore I am always jarred by such creepy cries - "WE (Russia) do not need someone else!"
And what, Russia already has an overabundance of OWN? There is nowhere to go, or no one to GIVE. From their citizens.
Sent from the Crimea Kamaz, Ural, KRAZ. Even if they are flaky in different stages of fatigue ... Yes, repairs are all cheaper than buying a new one. Brosta cry - "Take it for household needs, Russians." Farmers, transport companies and other OWNERS will disassemble.
I'm wrong? Such "rich Buratina" have become, or show-off is more necessary?

Shl. In my city, next to the military registration and enlistment office, on a pedestal stand: old BMPshka, BRDMka and a cannon of the 50s. Painted, protected from vandals and "lovers" of ferrous metal, all kinds of beer personalities are regularly driven away.
Guys use as an attraction. Climb, take pictures, get to know each other, t.s. with military equipment and increase the level of patriotism to their technology.
And the city is small ... And to add the old tank and other equipment.
Yes, there are thousands of such towns in the country ... Do all have military equipment as exhibits?

[nika407]

Yes, it’s written off is all obsolete. And then show off? Such a technique is more important for Ukraine than these exhibits are for us. On these tanks, Ukrainian soldiers can beautifully take a picture with American dry packs in their hands.

[Ptah]

Quote: nika407

Yes, it’s written off is all obsolete.

And I didn’t offer to fight on this.

Quote: nika407

And then show off? Such a technique is more important for Ukraine than these exhibits are for us.

You are now more concerned about the fighting efficiency of Ukraine than about Russian youth.

Quote: nika407

On these tanks, Ukrainian soldiers can beautifully take a picture with American dry packs in their hands.

For this, one is enough, well, a maximum of a dozen - the rest will be done by Photoshop. Even the exhaust from the pipe and sparks from the trunk.

[rJIiOK]

For museums, we and our good completely rust. There would be a desire to pick up.
Yes, it will be cheaper to repair. Is it safer? Still, more than 2x decades of technology.

[kotyara]

They give only what was in the military unit that did not go over to the side of Russia

[Am]

I completely agree. The normal owner first drags him home, and there it will already be clear what to where ...

[pensioner]

Quote: Ptah

I myself, a person, although inclined (sometimes) to sybarism, but very economical, therefore I am always jarred by such creepy cries - "WE (Russia) do not need someone else!"
And what, Russia already has an overabundance of OWN? Nowhere to go, or no one to GIVE

Quiet Quiet! And if we are talking, for example, about manure? And, even worse, about the human ?? Do we need it ?? So that - do not have tantrums! The rejection of the offer does not always lead to a feeling of lack of something available ...

[lelikas]

Quote: Riperbahn

We do not need their scrap metal.

“Would you trade your wife for two women?”
- No.
- Beautiful?
- Hm ... no.
- And on three?
- Also no.
- A beautiful?
- Well no.
- And on four?
- No!
“And the four beautiful ones?”
- No...
- And on "Kamaz"?
- Is the Kamaz beautiful?

[Keeper]

All this is done only to show the whole world that: Here, they say, we are quite law-abiding citizens who have a place in the EU! Look, we returned KAMAZ trucks to our "eastern partners" for free

[svetlomor]

We return the tanks to them and the only submarine they give us is our Kamaz trucks, as it is unfair

Yarosh does not drive KAMAZ trucks, they are not armored, and he needs military equipment.

[RBLip]

Quote: tilovaykrisa

We return the tanks to them and the only submarine they give us is our Kamaz trucks, as it is unfair

vice versa. very fair. that is, the price of the entire Ukrainian armored sleaz ... 43 KAMAZ.

[VKabanov]

Well, do not twist, and even the T-64B is already not bad. Ukraine has good models of remote sensing, engine and guided weapons. In principle, to bring these on their own to a very decent level is not at all difficult and not very expensive.

[geo185]

Totally agree with you. with a good crew of T-64 and 72 odds will give

[svp67]

Quote: geo185

Totally agree with you. with a good crew of T-64 and 72 odds will give

With a good crew and T55M will give the odds T64 ...

[kotyara]

At the expense of not expensive, I doubt that it is possible I agree, the only question is how are you with the staff? Are there any specialists left?

[svp67]

Quote: VKabanov

Ukraine has good models of remote sensing, engine and guided weapons.

In order:
- DZ used on SOME Ukrainian tanks is still SOVIET development and its first samples are on Russian training grounds.
- engines ... the question is SO controversial that you can argue about it for a long time and tedious, for me, let them TD remain with them, but with us - let them quickly develop the 2-V-2 line ...
- there are no guided weapons of their own development in Ukraine, all Soviet models are processed and modernized to their capabilities ...
Question WHAT to take?

[SkiF_RnD]

What are you talking about, KAMAZ is more valuable! They are at least in good condition. And the tanks will die before they go to the positions of the "occupiers". Unless, of course, you do not use them like a revolutionary armored train, right on the railway platforms ...

[ia-ai00]

According to the principle: - "... you come to me HUMANLY, and I come to you, humanly ..."

[mamont5]

Quote: tilovaykrisa

We return the tanks to them and the only submarine they give us is our Kamaz trucks, as it is unfair

Yes, the new KAMAZ are still better than their junk.

[Klepa]

Bloody showdowns already gone? Announced the dissolution of the National Guard or what?)))

[rJIiOK]

Our Kamaz trucks, on the other hand, go)

[schizophrenic]

Quote: tilovaykrisa

somehow unfair

I sat and thought and something blew from the 90s. A polite person arrives and explains that if they do not return them, they can wait for a "show mask", especially Kazakh Kamaz trucks.

[made13]

C'mon, Zaporizhzhya submarine is a ready-made museum! They will drive to Odessa, they will let tourists, law-bearers, and collect money to maintain the fleet!

[Evgen_Vasilich]

it's just that this is not a state with its notes and diplomacy, but the guys from Tatarstan in the 90s learned to communicate with raiders ... you wake up and your head is in the nightstand ...

[Keeper]

Amazing Apparently conscience woke up ...
Although, no, there are normal people in Ukraine! It's just that not all of them are unemployed, which means they just don't stick around like that!

[avg]

Amazing Apparently conscience woke up ...

The guys just lost their guard and were photographed without masks. And then we agreed - they were returning the cars, and OJSC KAMAZ would not give the photo to Putin.

[Aryan]

and Bandera before returning KAMAZ from fierce anger on Muscovites didn’t load them in gamut?
something like them ...

[family tree]

Quote: Aryan

and Bandera before returning KAMAZ from fierce anger on Muscovites didn’t load them in gamut?

5000 rubles. Kamaz gamna, in the sense of manure, in the garden, 5000 rubles. Without any malice, thanks again from above.

[Fin]

43 KAMAZ vehicles illegally seized in Ukraine were handed over to their rightful owners - the KAMAZ Trading Company in Chernigov,

When they leave the territory of Ukraine, then we can talk about the return.

[dirty trick]

Quote: Fin

When they leave the territory of Ukraine, then we can talk about the return.

I support! Bandera - like little shaven (in terms that the gentleman is the master of his word, wanted to give - wanted to take back), the same about ... oye!

[il2.chewie]

I think they were just afraid that if they hadn’t returned, they would politely be asked differently

[johnsnz]

Yes, while in Kazakh))

[Vedmed_23]

That's about money here, not state money, but personal money. They can very harshly ask for lawlessness and you won’t cry at the UN, you’ll just tear your silly heads, and the cost of 43 KAMAZ trucks allows you to hire people to do explanatory work with oh and in this case there will not be any rules of law, they will specifically come and specifically ask with PEOPLE who donated our KAMAZ trucks, even banderlogs understand this, the difference is to throw a state or VERY rich people for money.

[KOSMOS]

Details would find out on what conditions they returned! Well, if without conditions, it means that not the whole mind was left out! In any case, the news is positive!

[T80UM1]

Hooray! Our Kazakhstan Kamaz returned!

[Name]

43 KAMAZ vehicles illegally seized in Ukraine transferred to their rightful owners-but this amount ..... Turchinov-Lukashenko. ... but ... no and how, and where, who benefits ... so the thought in my head ... yeah.

[Arh]

I wanted to think that Kamaz was returned voluntarily and was not connected with the export of military equipment from Crimea to Ukraine !!!

[not good]

Yeah, of course of my own free will. Either the fuel ran out or the sponsor of the action was advised to return until they sent to Muzychko.

[parusnik]

Y.pt.st.Gest of goodwill ..

[Siberian19]

Kamaz as a gas do not give a loan!

[Cossacks]

I do not interfere in the internal affairs of speculators

[buser]

I represent the questions of buyers of Kamaz trucks in Kazakhstan ... "- and these are not the same Kamaz trucks ???" ... And the answers "-yes no, what are you! These are straight from the factory" or "-yes, yes !!! Those same ones !!! Take it! It's a story" ...

[VKabanov]

Especially interesting is the fate of the inscription "Galician" on the blue crane equipped in Drohobych.

[kotyara]

And in Drohobych make 50 tons? I’ve never seen before! It looks like a Galich crane

[alex47russ]

They just need to steal at least something! Thus thinking that they are doing more than Russia!

[basil200]

I wonder who hinted to them that stealing is bad.

[pink]

They must have bitten these kamazes

[stoker]

Ukraine returned the stolen! Look, maybe it’s not so bad there.

[bvi1965]

Check mileage and absence of replaced parts.

[vasyliy1]

A wonderful exchange of good cars for rusty scrap!

[lord]

the question is off topic now I heard the Black Sea Fleet will not be deployed in the Crimea will be in Russia

[zanoza]

Quote: Lord

will not be deployed in the Crimea will be in Russia

Dear, Crimea is already the 3rd week as Russia
And the fact that part of the Black Sea Fleet will be deployed in Novorossiysk, so it's ok, we have restless neighbors there (Georgia, Turkey)

[lord]

I understand that Russia, but here the base has been debugged for decades to leave, and it smells good in the navy

[zanoza]

Quote: Lord

smacks of not good concession usa

I dont know, why do you think sothat the Black Sea Fleet will leave Sevastopol?
One of the reasons for the annexation of Crimea to Russia was the real threat of presenting the demands of the new Kiev clique to withdraw the Black Sea Fleet base from Crimea, to please the United States and NATO.
Long before these events, infrastructure began to be created in the Tsemess Bay for a part of the Black Sea Fleet, which would include new ships launched in recent years. It was impossible to keep them in Crimea under an agreement with Ukraine.
Money has been allocated, work is underway, the infrastructure is in a high degree of readiness. Do not throw it all! Therefore, as I believe, some formations of the Black Sea Fleet ships will be deployed in Novorossiysk, and they are there now.

[Bergbur]

Do you know that the name of the country must be capitalized? (This is to the Lord)

[vvp2412]

Either paid, or hired more cool bandits!

[Giant thought]

Do not dare to touch someone else's good, even if it belongs to Kazakhstan. Handles can be beaten. In general, the revolutionary expropriation this time failed. We do not know what mechanism was turned on to solve this problem, but the result is obvious. That would continue like this.

[Zlyden.Zlo]

Not bad. It seems that KAMAZ has good leverage on this audience. gru or fsb

[RBLip]

Quote: Zlyden.Zlo

Not bad. It seems that KAMAZ has good leverage on this audience. gru or fsb

that's enough. just promised to send "polite" guys. a couple of mouths. Well, Bismarck's words reminded us that Russians ALWAYS come for their debts.

[GAndr]

Yes, everything is just not Russian, but Kazakh. And apparently there are still enough brains, not to quarrel even with Kazakhstan. Moreover, in fact, the current Bandera coupists and Kazakhs have no claims to each other.
We found out whose kamaz were returned and nothing more.

[Guard]

By the way, when it became known that the extremists had taken away Kazakh KAMAZ trucks (Russian in fact, but intended for sale in Kazakhstan), a storm began on the Kazakh news sites in the style of "Oh_eli or what? Return our KAMAZ trucks!", "Foreign Ministry, do not sit idle ! "," Well, now we will definitely recognize the referendum in revenge. "
The ambassador of Ukraine was summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Kazakhstan (though on a different occasion), but it seems that the topic of KAMAZ was not spared.
In short, Ukraine realized that it is not worth spoiling relations with Kazakhstan (which is preparing to establish a dialogue between Kiev and Moscow after the Ukrainian presidential election).
Moreover, Ukrainians with Kazakhs have a bunch of serious projects where Kazakhstan is the payer. Even the Maydan people understand that breaking contracts with Kazakhstan (because of some trucks) would be very stupid.
The Russians are also great - their KAMAZs were declared for sale to Kazakhs and saved their property))) I advise all Russian companies in Ukraine to follow the invention of guys from Naberezhnye Chelny.

- Stand, fraer! Drive your wallet and phone!
- Fool or what? I promised to sell it to Kazakhstan ...
- Ahhh, you meanders ... Go yourself then.

[Walk]

Before rejoicing, I would still like to know how the return occurred and on what conditions.

[lord]

I agree everywhere concessions interestno for the Crimea that Russia lost did not want to if it is Syria

[Gagarin]

It’s even strange that they return ...
In such chaos, everything would have been written off for anyone.

[common man]

The expropriation of private property in the same Europe is not welcome. Therefore, they pressed on Kiev to give up Kamaz. Why from Ukraine to Kazakhstan. already written. They should have sold in Ukraine, but there the demand is over. which is not surprising, so we drove to Kazakhstan. It’s more difficult with tanks. The Ukrainians considered them theirs and billed, sky-high. In the future, they could count this scrap metal at the price of a new one at the expense of offsetting for gas. Prove the opposite. Considering that international courts will take the side of Ukraine, (anyone would doubt) it is very problematic. Therefore, it’s easier to give the Reclaim back to Ukraine and not to suffer. And engineering troops will train in evacuating, as it were, damaged equipment from the battlefield.

[Dwarfik]

Take it off with Kamaz, but here is the total cost of 100 million! and this is money!

[Pesnyadv]

Doubts torment me ...
Is it thanks to "polite people" that these cars were returned ???!

[svp67]

Quote: PesnyaDV

Is it thanks to "polite people" that these cars were returned ???!

And where can we go without them ... Polite people arrived at Roshen enterprises operating in Russia and began to very politely check all the documentation, the entire production process, rewrite property ... So Mr. Poroshenko, the current presidential candidate of Ukraine, and part-time owner of Roshen, quickly told his "chain dogs" from PS, to return all the good of KAMAZ back ...

[dmitrij.blyuz]

What did KAMAZ trucks in Ukraine made in the Urals? Or, through Ukraine, closer to the Kazakhs? The hell is going on. Well, they returned, and that's okay. See "Polite people" politely asked.

[konvalval]

I think that the transfer of this Crimean scrap metal to Ukraine is a political step confirming the fact that Russia is not going to fight them in order to exclude unnecessary speculation. Sometimes such steps are more expensive than this scrap.

[Vtel]

Not otherwise Old Man Makhno ordered, showed the same tin of goodwill.

[shatu]

Humor in the subject:
Mobile pools took away from banderlogs!

[Krsk]

How not to return to the one who can come and pick up in any version ... ???

[Cristall]

returned and good, then not everything is so bad.
In general, it was worth noting that would have ceased the actions of law-abiding and upashists in the cities.

[Artem1967]

Waved on military Ukrainian scrap metal from the Crimea?

[pvv113]

43 KAMAZ vehicles illegally seized in Ukraine transferred to their rightful owners

That's why they returned that KAMAZ needs kerosene, but they don’t have