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An open letter to residents of eastern Ukraine

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The current president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, at a regular speech urged residents of the regions to bring to the referendum the question of determining the status of Ukraine.


Let's try to sort it out impartially: what does such a call mean? The issue of referendums in Ukraine became aggravated in February after the "evacuation" of Yanukovich to Russia. Preliminary referendum questions often surfaced in the media, but for the first time the president publicly voiced one of them. But not everything is so simple.

At a press conference in Donetsk, the chairman of the Donetsk Regional Council, Boris Kolesnikov, said: "This is one of the tools to achieve the goal of the federation." In order for Ukraine to become a federal republic within the framework of territorial integrity, you need to get three hundred votes in parliament and make the appropriate amendments to the Constitution. A referendum as a means of expressing the interests of the people is possible, but does not lead to any legal consequences, Kolesnikov said. (Source: http://censor.net.ua/n46433). It is important to end the phrase!

Federalization, in the sense of ordinary people in Eastern Ukraine - those who constitute the active part of the population - has the opportunity to leave the funds earned by the region, so to speak, “for development”. But in reality this is far from the case. In the conditions of total shortage of funds, unfortunately, the one for whom the force will decide, and not the one for whom the truth will be.

With the preservation of the East as part of modern Ukraine, any decision of the people is doomed to failure! I am far from the thought that the self-defense forces of the eastern regions (in fact, representing the people's guards protecting their yard, village, district center) are able to come to Kiev and shake the execution of the referendum decisions from the authorities. The queue for government money has already lined up very long - from a political cripple to a character Lucas. But this is not the end of the Maidan. Get the same Yarosh seat or committee in the legitimate Rada (after the appointed election), as a line of hungry trained fighters will line up after it.

According to Europe, the Right Sector is a shot at two birds with one stone: 1) a pebble in a shoe on the border with Russia; 2) Ryom’s troops are for their own people, but are you yours for them? ..

In no case am I a supporter of the division of Ukraine into a "quilt". For me, it is still not an obvious decision to separate Eastern Ukraine "without Kiev".

What is Eastern Ukraine - the raw material pillow of Europe? A separate and independent state with a strong ally in the east? Territory, what will follow in the footsteps of Crimea? It is up to you. But historical the examples speak for themselves: Ivan IV the Terrible during his long reign signed about 6000 death sentences. On one Bartholomew’s night, by order of Charles IX, 100000 were cut out without any sentences.
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  1. My address
    My address 31 March 2014 14: 35
    +49
    I do not expect anything good in Ukraine.
    I recall Wasserman, who predicted a quick and dismal demise for Ukraine.
    In a recent article "My address is the Soviet Union" I wrote about my acquaintances from near Kiev, how they blamed me, a Ural, for all the troubles of Ukraine. I will add - and last summer Yanukovych, zapadentsev, oligarchs were on fire. They envied those living in Russia. Like this. How quickly they became enemies of Russia. I repeat - maybe some kind of anomaly and therefore blows the roof?
    1. sniper
      sniper 31 March 2014 14: 55
      +26
      Quote: My address
      . I repeat - maybe an anomaly is what causes the roof to blow?
      I think that everything is much simpler, a competent brainwashing, moreover, a brain ready to accept Russia as an enemy .... The dreams of independence and the confidence that Ukraine feeds Russia were already very strong ...
      1. vlad0
        vlad0 31 March 2014 15: 52
        +8
        In general, it looks like a massive psychological treatment of the population of a relatively large country. Probably, in 10-20 years we will learn about some kind of "gray fox" operation, during which the US MTR tested the methods of psychological influence for 40 million to shift or reorient their life values ​​and aspirations.
        1. avant-garde
          avant-garde 31 March 2014 17: 17
          +7
          Quote: vlad0
          In general, this is similar to the massive psychological treatment of the population of a relatively large country.

          And why don't they work with us, and if the fools from "pussy to heaven" write that we have a very comfortable sofa and people don't want to get up to the west with cancer? this is the merit of the guarantor (IMHO). And why Belarusians and dad for one thing, why ??? My answer is that in these people the GDP and the Arab League is a core, and Yanyproshmandovich, really merged Ukraine (if you can call it that now) to the West, for which Old Man patted him by the ear, but it's too late, and it's a pity they are now eating expired rations, and could keep us company and we would be a Slavic power !!!!!
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 31 March 2014 16: 49
        +5
        I agree with you, grains there fell on fertile soil ..
      3. nahalenok911
        nahalenok911 31 March 2014 18: 47
        +5
        "" The dreams of independence and the confidence that Ukraine feeds Russia were painfully strong before ... ""
        And also unlimited envy.
    2. nika407
      nika407 31 March 2014 14: 55
      +15
      Quote: My address
      what anomaly can and therefore blows the roof?

      This anomaly is called: anger, panic, fear, envy, poverty, uncertainty, despair, ..., + Ukrainian media
    3. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time 31 March 2014 14: 57
      +21
      Well, this is about the budget of Ukraine
      1. Gloria45
        Gloria45 31 March 2014 16: 53
        +1


        hochetsia verit 'v uspeh
        1. Des10
          Des10 31 March 2014 18: 40
          +3
          Yes, if - "revolution" - then the right to self-determination is initially in the regions and peoples!
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    4. Colorman
      Colorman 31 March 2014 14: 58
      +8
      Wasserman, though peculiar, but smart, you need to listen to him
    5. polite people
      polite people 31 March 2014 15: 12
      +18
      It has already begun.
      It is unsafe to stand on Antimaydan - 140 residents of Donetsk were arrested in a week, who showed themselves at the rallies. Expression of will is persistently equated with separatism and criminal cases are brought up. Yana Manuilova, a representative of the People's Patriotic Movement of Donbass, says: "We saw this. They send operatives with Russian flags and cameras or telephones to the square. Then they filter it all, and invite the most active for interrogation."
      For especially distinguished come suddenly and lead into the unknown.

      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1429159
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      2. matross
        matross 31 March 2014 15: 54
        +10
        Quote: polite people
        It is unsafe to stand on Anti-Maidan

        The main thing is pointless. Does anyone have examples when someone has achieved something by standing somewhere? Standing on the Ugra River - An Example Not to Offer wink
        Either arm, seize, arrest - or by holes, wait until the last piece of fat is taken away and cease to be released from the mine. SE is infuriating worse than zapadentsev - there are at least enemies, and then they have suffered. Ugh! They don’t show them on the box - the salary is small, but we are afraid that this will be taken away, everything like that. They will be given cards for bread and for shag - they will vilify - at least they give bread with terry, but in general forks ...
        1. nahalenok911
          nahalenok911 31 March 2014 18: 54
          +5
          I repeat once again: remember yourself in the 90s !!!!!!! Bother! Or ask mom dads. What were you doing for the country at that time? YOU LIKE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they survived, and so are strong, if not blah blah blah ... Let them go through this. No offense for the sake of renouncing us, for the sake of recovery!
          1. matross
            matross 31 March 2014 20: 14
            +3
            Quote: nahalenok911
            I repeat once again: remember yourself in 90 !!!!!!! Bother! Or ask mom dads. What were you doing for the country at that time? YOU LIKE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Son! In the 90s I served in St. Petersburg in the criminal, on the ground, then in the slaughterhouse! And he did everything he could in his place so that my country could heal normally! And if you are "YOU-LIVE-VAL", then it is not for you to poke your nose into something!
            1. nahalenok911
              nahalenok911 April 1 2014 05: 59
              +2
              Well, you, dear! Nobody pokes you in anything. Yes, they survived, having lost their jobs, not knowing where to apply their education as unnecessary. Food vouchers, when you and one in the hostel just die of hunger ... And now I am a specialist who is known from the Volga to Primorye. Survived. And it’s good that they didn’t add work to you.
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              2. matross
                matross April 1 2014 10: 38
                +2
                In form I got a little excited - for the living touched, but in essence I remain in my opinion. Patience, humility, non-resistance, and other Tolstoyanism are considered dubious virtues. hi
                1. nahalenok911
                  nahalenok911 April 1 2014 18: 23
                  +2
                  I was not going to oppose your opinion to mine. You fought against the evil with weapons, and I - the preservation of mutual assistance, mutual assistance, mutual respect and decency in society, only without weapons. So what are our actions different if you did the same? When in one night the oil went up from 6 rubles to 160, not a single santa added money to our pockets at that time. I think that you worked more on enthusiasm. And again: humility and non-resistance are also considered doubtful, but patience ... there were many reasons for impatience .. But to cross this line is to declare war, and, often, to oneself. But they didn’t humble themselves and resisted the fact that they lived and gave birth, and raised their children with our, Russian, spiritual values. So Russia is still alive!
                  1. matross
                    matross April 1 2014 19: 09
                    0
                    It is nice to exchange views with a smart and well-mannered person. About patience, I agree, perhaps. hi
                    1. nahalenok911
                      nahalenok911 April 2 2014 18: 59
                      0
                      Thank you It is difficult to call for patience of warriors. )))
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      3. fif21
        fif21 31 March 2014 16: 40
        +4
        Quote: polite people
        It is unsafe to stand on Antimaydan - 140 residents arrested in a week
        The fact of the matter is that on the Maidan there was a power component and they stood for months. On the anti-Maidan, people marched during the day and went to warm apartments, there was no club, and you do not pose a real threat. Wild animals are caught and temporarily isolated. But on how to make the junta in Kiev really reckon with you, think about it.
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    6. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 31 March 2014 15: 47
      +7
      Quote: My address
      I repeat - maybe an anomaly is what causes the roof to blow?

      Sorry if you don't like it, but there is such a category of people (we have a lot of them, but in Ukraine it seems to be the main group of the population) who value their material wealth more than anything else in the world! Worldview fits into one short pronoun - "ME"!
      Hence, "my house is on the edge" and "why should I!" And so on. And the like, and these people are unable to control themselves, they are constantly gnawed at and disfigured!
      And ALWAYS SOMETHING is to blame for their troubles! They cannot be guilty of anyone. And they will never believe in someone else's disinterested kindness!
      This is a disease of society, it no longer has compassion, conscience ..... Only ME!
    7. baltika-18
      baltika-18 31 March 2014 16: 22
      +6
      Quote: My address
      In a recent article "My address is the Soviet Union" I wrote about my acquaintances from near Kiev, how they blamed me, a Ural, for all the troubles of Ukraine. I will add - and last summer Yanukovych, zapadentsev, oligarchs were fired
      You see, Alexander. As I understand it, many people in the southeast do not rush to Russia especially. The reason is in our system, they have heard a lot about the charms of Russian capitalism, they live nearby, they have relatives, they communicate. Everyone wants independence from the West, but not all in Russia. I have a classmate living in Kharkov, a retired lieutenant colonel, a Russian, I got to Ukraine after college in 1987 and remained there. He doesn’t want to be part of Russia, but now he has a small business there maybe there’s a reason in him who knows him. He talked for a long time, he doesn’t speak for hell, he says there are enough suckers, if he speaks yours too ... This is the situation. The system in our country is not a gift and people don’t Especially easy to live.
      1. My address
        My address 31 March 2014 18: 40
        +5
        Dear Nikolai!

        I agree with you regarding our ugly economic domestic policy. Personally, I like socialism more, it has more justice.

        But, to be honest, in Ukraine there are much more disgraces. Such a stratification in the income of little else where there is. And in general, this is how it was necessary to be greened out, in order now to consider the work per day (not in shifts) with the payment of 150-200 dollars decent! And thirty years ago, Ukrainians lived better than the Urals, and we, the Urals, thought it was normal! With lower prices and a mild climate, they had earnings like ours. And they didn’t have any 15% Urals!

        Close to the freebie Ukrainians all brains filtered. And now successfully filtered.
      2. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 31 March 2014 20: 01
        -1
        Ukrainians and under the USSR were eager for Russia, and now there are a lot of them. Especially on submarines and ships. They are more active than Russians. Their very life pushes them to this. And yet the moment when they are normal people here, when the spiders in the bank are together in Ukraine .
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 April 2 2014 10: 55
          0
          more vain yes, they’ll even cook without soap in opera and no more
    8. Anper
      Anper 31 March 2014 16: 26
      +4
      Quote: My address
      I do not expect anything good in Ukraine

      And Boris Kolesnikov, with a fortune of $ 810 million from dying football, roads and railways, shitty sweets from his Konti factory (they say, he is building a factory in Kursk) and SEA ports in federalized Ukraine, too, does not expect anything good .One of the pronounced greedy freaks from the party of Janek.
    9. Siberian19
      Siberian19 31 March 2014 16: 47
      +4
      Odessa is fighting back! Bravo!
      1. bddrus
        bddrus 31 March 2014 17: 53
        +1
        I don’t hear anything - the settings have fallen
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      3. Des10
        Des10 31 March 2014 18: 51
        +2
        Already a tear broke ... Odessa - the city of Hero!
        "Bandera devils out of Odessa!"
        And a lot of purely folk words in the direction of departing laughing
  2. Rus2012
    Rus2012 31 March 2014 14: 36
    +11
    What is Eastern Ukraine - the raw material pillow of Europe? A separate and independent state with a strong ally in the east? Territory, what will follow in the footsteps of Crimea? It is up to you.


    Here are the options for resolving the "Ukrainian question" -
    1) saving status quo;
    2) the federalization of Ukraine;
    3) Transnistrian script;
    4) "Crimean" script.

    scenario probability
    The first scenario (maintaining statusquo) is the least likely. It contradicts the political line that President Vladimir Putin voiced on March 18. The consequences of this scenario are completely undesirable for Russia, and its implementation is possible only in the event of any extraordinary, unforeseen circumstances.
    The third scenario ("Transnistrian") is also unlikely. Now in Southeastern Ukraine, a popular movement in support of the Russian civilizational choice is gaining strength. Under these conditions, a “half-hearted” solution — obtaining an uncertain state and legal status with unclear prospects — may not find widespread public support. The logic of “either - or” dominates more and more: either Ukraine or Russia.
    The other two options for the development of events - the federalization of Ukraine and the "Crimean" scenario - are quite real and equally probable. Federalization as an ideal goal seems optimal, but in practice it is difficult to realize this goal. In case of failure, the escalation of the confrontation may lead to the launch of the mechanisms of the "Crimean" scenario.
    The main variable that can tip the balance in favor of one of these two scenarios is the position of Western countries. If in the West they support the idea of ​​federalization, then in Kiev they will probably be forced to put it into practice. But if in the West they keep the political course towards confrontation with Russia, then the logic of the development of this confrontation, with a high probability, will lead to a further split of Ukraine according to the “Crimean” scenario.

    Source, fully - http://rusrand.ru/events/rossija-i-jugo-vostochnaja-ukraina-chetyre-stsenarija
    1. W_M
      W_M 31 March 2014 14: 55
      0
      "The United States refused to demand federalization from Ukraine"
      http://news.mail.ru/inworld/ukraina/global/112/politics/17615917/?frommail=1
    2. aleks700
      aleks700 31 March 2014 15: 22
      -9
      In general, there will be a first scenario. And Ukraine Russia prosrala.
      1. Magadan
        Magadan 31 March 2014 15: 56
        +7
        yeah, "putin will all be happy - once again, they say, fans of the Big Z.opa Sect"
      2. Kyrgyz
        Kyrgyz 31 March 2014 16: 09
        +6
        Quote: aleks700
        In general, there will be a first scenario. And Ukraine Russia prosrala.

        The first scenario means constant strikes and swings, this boat will not survive a long storm, everything can come to a chain of local Maidans and anti-Maidans with a complete loss of even the appearance of control over the situation, including locally, many wounded robbed killed, pacify for a long time and expensive to feed and put on pieces of the country then.
        Federalization is optimal, it will take off the heat, and then gradually Kiev could wait for a stronger leader and tighten the screws, if of course they allow from the east, but on the whole it is optimal but unrealistic - this is a recognition of complete defeat before Russia
        The Transnistrian version is most likely in 1-2 years, as a result of processes left to chance and constant threats from Kiev. Very beneficial for Russia
        Crimean is generally unrealistic, Russia will not digest financially, SASHA and EUR will not be allowed by all means, but they have a lot of strength, we are not weak either, but here we’ll not blow up, they will blow up everything and cut off all deliveries of everything that can be taken into account with our costs, we must take gradually with the expectation of periods of adversary weakness.
        China’s support should not be overestimated, they were silent in exchange for silence on their Asian rams and no more, if they understand that they are the only supplier they will unscrew their hands
      3. skifd
        skifd 31 March 2014 16: 28
        +6
        Ukraine was pro..ralied by the "Ukrainians" themselves. It's just that Russia, as always, gets the "honorable" duty to rake this guano ...
        1. nahalenok911
          nahalenok911 31 March 2014 19: 18
          +1
          God bless Russia!
      4. datur
        datur 31 March 2014 19: 03
        +1
        READ the story dear !!! yes and then you will understand everything !!! WE DO NOT THROW OWN OUR !!! EARLY OR LATE, BUT WE WILL TAKE OUR OWN !!!!! wink
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 31 March 2014 16: 26
      +1
      The Dnieper and Prokrym scenarios are both pro-Russian. There is nothing to fence the garden. The Stutus is a quo only through a boycott and war. Federalization remains. And after it, other scenarios are possible. Do not forget other factors, such as a sharp deterioration in welfare, state terror or the lack of state power protection of citizens. The country itself will begin to spread to pieces. Let's look only at the number of candidates for prezi, eager to tear the country to pieces.
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 31 March 2014 17: 49
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        The Dnieper and Prokrym scenarios are both pro-Russian. There is nothing to fence the garden. The Stutus is a quo only through a boycott and war. Federalization remains.

        all this of course would have driven ... if the deadlines were not tightened ...
        Those. Transnistria will not survive the blockade in 1. Hence the need will break through the corridor ... or Ukrainians bend to the adequacy, which is unlikely. Therefore, a swift throw is likely. Moreover, in the most unexpected way and at an unexpected time ...
  3. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 31 March 2014 14: 37
    +9
    there are two ways out, either federalization or a totalitarian system like the old man.
    1. officer29
      officer29 31 March 2014 15: 48
      +3
      Quote: platitsyn70
      totalitarian system like a dad.

      The most interesting thing is that the majority of Ukrainian citizens who voted for the Svoboda party in the previous parliamentary elections wish the level and way of life as Belarus! Such a combination of European values ​​with totalitarianism! request
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 31 March 2014 16: 28
      +4
      Old Man has already offered to let him temporarily steer Ukraine. Who will give?
      And it would be necessary.
  4. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 31 March 2014 14: 39
    +36
    Hysteria over the fact that Russia allegedly wants to capture Ukraine is over the top. However, we will figure out how much Ukraine needs Russia. Today, Ukraine is bankrupt, production is almost at zero, utilities are worn out, if Ukraine is taken under the wing of Russia, these costs are incommensurable even in comparison with Crimea. Now, if someone else’s brains haven’t completely gone out, think Russia needs this headache. You can shout as much as you like, hysteria about this, only even our not-so-wise authorities, well aware, pulling Ukraine out is not just expensive, but super expensive. Does Russia need it right now? Because you want to go to Europe? for God's sake, you want to America, but the flag in your hands.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 31 March 2014 14: 47
      +13
      Quote: vladsolo56
      However, we will figure out how much Ukraine needs Russia.

      For the good, Russia would need to have a friendly neutral state on the territory of Ukraine.
      But, since this is impossible, fragmentation will result ...
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 31 March 2014 16: 39
        +6
        Quote: vladsolo56
        even our not-so-wise authorities, well aware, pulling Ukraine out is not just expensive, but super expensive.

        Quote: Rus2012
        Russia would need to have a friendly neutral state in Ukraine.
        There will be no friendly neutral anymore. There will be a hostile one, cooperating with NATO, the EU, and the States. Russia is in a very difficult situation now. Ukraine is whole and unfriendly: consider NATO very close. .Pensioners of what are worth. Yes, and NATO is still on the Dnieper. All of Ukraine, in general, although there is no NATO within the former borders and an unfriendly state, we get an economic super-ass. There are 6 million additional pensioners. And even Bandera terrorists. This is so in brief, without going into too much detail. And then here some of the Russian flag in the Rada gathered to hoist, but to go through tank marches to Transnistria. They don’t want to think a damn thing.
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 31 March 2014 17: 53
          0
          Quote: baltika-18
          The whole of Ukraine, in general, although there is no NATO and an unfriendly state within the former borders, we get an economic super-ass. There are 13 million of pensioners and even Bandera terrorists.

          You can have a little girlfriend - the corridor in Transnistria is needed by a loved one. And in the NATO territories to stir up the partisan movement ... What is not an option?
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 31 March 2014 18: 18
            +1
            Quote: Rus2012
            You can have a little girlfriend
            You see, my friend Rus. For Russia, the only acceptable option is the federalization of Ukraine. All other options are complete, and the Kremlin understands this, and therefore they insist on it. But the number does not pass with federalization, the last meeting between Lavrov and Kerry confirmed this. Kerry: no decisions on Ukraine without the government of Ukraine, and this, accordingly, no federalization. Once again with nothing.
            Quote: Rus2012
            And in the NATO territories to stir up the partisan movement.
            Well, if you are a fan of science fiction ..... Why not dream?
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 31 March 2014 16: 41
        0
        Or at least a buffer zone from the eastern regions of federal Ukraine.
      3. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 31 March 2014 18: 30
        +1
        In an amicable way, Russia needs to have its own, friendly, territorial entity in Ukraine, in the image and likeness of Crimea. Is it possible to do this now? The grosses do not show the whole picture, but the opponents react with boiling water. So there is a real game. I would like it faster, but "quickly only cats ....! "
    2. a52333
      a52333 31 March 2014 14: 51
      +6
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Because you want to go to Europe? for God's sake, you want to go to America, but the flag is in your hands.
      I agree, not really. 1 moment: Ukraine should be non-aligned. And one of the conditions for joining the EU is partnership with Nata.
      2 moment. Russia needs people, Russian Ukrainians - there should be 200 million of us.
      And the fact that it is expensive, and a no brainer.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 31 March 2014 18: 24
        +1
        Quote: a52333
        2 moment. Russia needs people, Russian Ukrainians - there should be 200 million of us.
        And the fact that it is expensive, and a no brainer.
        This is not the right word, it may end in the collapse of the economy if we do not change the system. We will extend the economic system. And will Putin change what he created so much time?
    3. sniper
      sniper 31 March 2014 14: 59
      +6
      Quote: vladsolo56
      if you want to go to America, you’ll have the flag in your hands.

      It seems to me that Russia in the first place does not need NATO missiles and bases in Ukraine, but I agree with the rest ...
    4. nika407
      nika407 31 March 2014 15: 09
      +5
      Quote: vladsolo56
      pulling Ukraine is not just expensive, but super expensive

      That's right. Crimea, of course, is drawn to the envy of all Ukraine, and to the envy of the Urals, Siberia, the Far East, ..., all Russian villages and villages from the hinterland. So gentlemen, Ukrainians of different nationalities must themselves build a normal legal state, and not pigsties with gardens in the main square of the capital.
    5. mihasik
      mihasik 31 March 2014 15: 11
      +6
      They want anywhere where railway station is warm and for a Russian freebie. If it doesn’t work, m. All on knives!
    6. aleks700
      aleks700 31 March 2014 15: 24
      +15
      The east and south of Ukraine are needed. These are Nikolaev shipyards, Kharkov defense enterprises that fulfill orders from Russia. Well, Odessa is simply because it is imported.
      1. Borz
        Borz 31 March 2014 16: 23
        +4
        Meanwhile, in Odessa:
        The manufactured goods market of Ukraine the 7th kilometer in the Odessa region is entering the bankruptcy phase: the market’s property has been seized, accounts have been blocked, according to the decrees of the State Executive Service of Ukraine.

        According to documents, the executive service seized the property of the market. His management is prohibited from alienating the property of Promtovarny Market LLC.

        By another decree of the executive service, all 7-kilometer Odessa bank accounts were seized. Thus, the official financial activities of the enterprise were terminated.

        Odessa is not only an import, from the 7th kilometer 40 percent of Odessa residents and not only are being fed. Catch it? It will be something, don’t go to a fortuneteller.
        1. Cristall
          Cristall 31 March 2014 18: 32
          0
          Quote: Borz
          Ukrainian manufactured goods market 7th kilometer


          must not close (now it works)
          The reasons for the many-golden chicken of the budget + many of their suckers.
          Well, wait a moment, close 7 Km and the mines of Donbass right away ..
          Well, in Odessa, for sure ... Odessa cluster will definitely close the roads to Kiev and send them away.
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    8. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 31 March 2014 15: 44
      +1
      Quote: vladsolo56
      for God's sake, you want to America, but the flag in your hands.


      A trifle only prevents us from saying bluntly: well, her! Those million Russians living in those parts! and NATO missiles near Kharkov (and closer)

      But I am tormented by another question. Who would clarify.
      The question is: Before the stake? until they can and we can not? Well, why not brew them the same Maidan in the squares of Washington, London, Berlin?

      Why do you need to look like such a "ideological honest guy" - Russia?

      Well, when something "inherited" - the KGB, so what? everything is already forgotten! and there are already "other" ways of action!
      1. thrower
        thrower 31 March 2014 16: 11
        +1
        In order to stir up something like the Maidan, an idea is needed that will unite a variety of people. The West has "democracy and human rights", the USSR had communism.
        Now the crisis of ideas.
    9. Magadan
      Magadan 31 March 2014 16: 02
      +2
      Russia needs Ukraine, just as a brother needs a brother in any of his condition, sick or healthy, poor or rich. And in general, there will be normal power in Ukraine, they will feed themselves wonderfully. Especially if they will not feed Lviv.
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 April 1 2014 06: 12
        0
        Quote: Magadan
        Russia needs Ukraine, just as a brother needs a brother in any of his condition, sick or healthy, poor or rich. And in general, there will be normal power in Ukraine, they will feed themselves wonderfully. Especially if they will not feed Lviv.

        Who would become a drink, of course, it would be nice, the question is how quickly and due to what Russia will raise the southeast of Ukraine. And if you do not raise these territories quickly, then the people will rebel again, because the standard of living between Russia and Ukraine will be very different. The question is, is Russia ready for this? And if in Russia itself in a couple of years the people will raise the question why? The same West will not sit idly by, information is already being thrown into the idea that some regions allegedly feed Moscow and other subsidized ones, that if you separate, you can live better than in America. Money and monetary relations at all times have been a cause for contention and war.
  5. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 31 March 2014 14: 40
    +8
    Quote: Rus2012
    What is Eastern Ukraine - the raw material pillow of Europe? A separate and independent state with a strong ally in the east? Territory, what will follow in the footsteps of Crimea? It is up to you.


    Here are the options for resolving the "Ukrainian question" -

    I fully support hi
  6. thrower
    thrower 31 March 2014 14: 40
    +5
    The Union of Sovereign States, like the United States, would become an ideal device for Ukraine, without separating different parts and joining them to other states.
    Each state has its own laws, its own law enforcement agencies, its own taxes. The general is the army.

    For Russia, this will also be better than joining the Southeast, but with a missile defense system in Rivne and Chernigov.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 31 March 2014 14: 48
      +3
      Quote: thrower
      but with a missile defense system in Rivne and Chernihiv

      there will be a "wild walk field" most likely ...
  7. starhina01
    starhina01 31 March 2014 14: 42
    +1
    On one Bartholomew’s night, by order of Charles IX, 100000 were cut out without any sentences. belay we don’t need this stop better quietly quietly quietly hi
  8. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 31 March 2014 14: 44
    +1
    One thing is clear, if the Russians of the southeast stop fighting, the banderlogs will quickly turn them into slaves! And the permission of the Supreme Council for the use of troops from Putin for what period is valid? request
    1. Jogan-xnumx
      Jogan-xnumx 31 March 2014 15: 15
      +1
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      And the permission of the Supreme Council for the use of troops from Putin for what period really

      Indefinitely, as far as I know. hi
    2. aleks700
      aleks700 31 March 2014 15: 25
      -1
      The chatter has no time limit.
  9. polite people
    polite people 31 March 2014 14: 44
    +2
    There is nothing impossible that a person cannot do. In the world today, you can do whatever you want. ONLY ONE WANT. And we will support. QUIET.
  10. konvalval
    konvalval 31 March 2014 14: 44
    +4
    In hindsight, everyone is strong. The yanyk soon regained sight. It was necessary though to think a little about the country when he was in power.
    1. Jogan-xnumx
      Jogan-xnumx 31 March 2014 15: 17
      +3
      Quote: konvalval
      In hindsight, everyone is strong. The yanyk soon regained sight. It was necessary though to think a little about the country when he was in power.

      Yes. For 4 years of sitting in the presidency, a lot could be done. Only if you think in state, not thieves' standards ...
  11. NIVH
    NIVH 31 March 2014 14: 45
    +3
    Somehow late, the president remembered the integrity of Ukraine. The President is not only a position, but also a responsibility for his people. And you let him down - you made some porridge on the Maidan, you left, you ran away. Who will believe you now, who will follow you?
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  13. sluganska
    sluganska 31 March 2014 14: 49
    +3
    Lugansk deputies wrote a petition about BP’s distrust of holding a referendum on a second state language, but the court banned it. (
    that's actually all the movements (it was still in early March)
    1. nika407
      nika407 31 March 2014 15: 13
      +2
      Because first you need to adopt a constitution allowing such referenda. Listen to Lavrov, he does not drive bullshit.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 31 March 2014 15: 37
        +1
        Quote: nika407
        Because first you need to adopt a constitution allowing such referenda. Listen to Lavrov, he does not drive bullshit.

        Lavrov, although FIGURE, but he can’t change the constitution, diplomacy against the Nazis does not work ...

        Here other methods are needed ...
        1. sluganska
          sluganska 31 March 2014 15: 57
          +2
          in a word: Victor for work !!! everyone was waiting
          1. Borz
            Borz 31 March 2014 17: 57
            0
            They’ve been waiting for! Get to work! Just bring a certificate from the doctor so that there is no absenteeism. We issue it retroactively. Vladimir Vladimirovich is a good doctor and a sincere person. He will write out, just ask!
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        3. siberalt
          siberalt 31 March 2014 16: 32
          0
          If Washington agrees with the proposals of Russia, then a new constitution will be written in a couple of days. laughing
      2. officer29
        officer29 31 March 2014 16: 06
        +1
        Quote: nika407
        it is necessary to adopt a constitution permitting the holding of such referenda.

        Who should accept the new Constitution of Ukraine in Kiev? When the entire Government of IO, and half of them fascist, and the other pro-Western orientation ... The West needs Ukraine WHOLE !!! In a stripped-down, neutered state, it is not NEEDED to the West !!! Even under Yushchenko, in unique salt mines near Artyomovsk, they were planning to make a nuclear waste storage facility. am .Just miraculously, thanks to some wise Europeans, they managed to defend these unique mines, but that's all request
  14. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 31 March 2014 14: 53
    +2
    Quote: konvalval
    In hindsight, everyone is strong. The yanyk soon regained sight. It was necessary though to think a little about the country when he was in power.

    Yes nifiga he did not see the light! I deeply doubt that they do not rule. I do not think that as a politician he is still alive. He crushed the country, Betrayed the "Berkut", for this only he must be asked - WHY ADMITTED?
  15. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic 31 March 2014 14: 54
    +6
    If it weren’t for your Janika, cowardice, embezzlement, and eternal sitting on two chairs, it wouldn’t beat
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 31 March 2014 16: 04
      +4
      And what was his way out? Not to run, but to stay, so that the junta injected him with psychotropic drugs and he would sign anything, and then "like a heart attack" and the junta is legitimate?
  16. infinite silence ...
    infinite silence ... 31 March 2014 14: 58
    +1
    Subject to the preservation of the East as part of modern Ukraine, any decision of the people is doomed to failure!

    No need to be a prophet to foresee it !!!
    Given the situation of the country, its economy (if you can call it that) ... The outlook for the near future is not encouraging ...
  17. nikcris
    nikcris 31 March 2014 15: 02
    +1
    Quote: starhina01
    On one Bartholomew’s night, by order of Charles IX, 100000 were cut out without any sentences. belay we don’t need this stop better quietly quietly quietly hi

    Is this kaG? belay 100 per night?
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 31 March 2014 15: 15
      +7
      Quote: starhina01
      On one Bartholomew’s night, on the orders of Charles IX, 100000 was cut out without any sentences. we don’t need this better quietly peacefully slowly


      Quote: nikcris
      Is this kaG? By 100 nightly?

      Technically... This is approximately the same as in this case:
      Knowledge is power! Polite people with fiber are a terrible force.By ruposters on xnumx

      Today I talked with the employees of Ukrtelecom (which serve the communication channels of the Armed Forces and the security forces). They say:

      We, edrit, thought that they would chop army fibers with an ax, and here it was such a shame ... At night, they came “polite”, their officer pulled out a connection diagram of the node with detailed notes where something, and clearly pulp-pulp pulled out specific patch cords. Civilian channels work, the military - horseradish. They closed the node and left.

      We ask our warriors: how is that ?! They: yes, we ourselves do not have any valid full communication organization scheme @ ra, only in GS

      Knowledge is power! And polite people with fiber are a terrible force. Ukrainian troops are completely demoralized.

      t-34-111
  18. GRune
    GRune 31 March 2014 15: 08
    +3
    As the Old Man doesn’t work out, everything has already been stolen, but he rely on the fact that he didn’t allow to steal everything (privatize) ...
  19. kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 31 March 2014 15: 12
    +5
    Tired of Yanukovych with his empty declarations! Wasteland! It was necessary to manage the state, and not pick your nose while sitting on a gold toilet!
  20. -SHADOW-
    -SHADOW- 31 March 2014 15: 15
    +5
    Quote: platitsyn70
    there are two ways out, either federalization or a totalitarian system like the old man.

    A couple more options ...
    Southeastern regions to follow the road of Crimea or create a new Ukraine with the capital in Kharkov, without insatiable Kiev and "patriotic" -minded regions ...
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 31 March 2014 15: 43
      +4
      Your golden words! Only Little Russians and this does not occur. They cannot organize a strike, but govern the state ...
  21. Bargus
    Bargus 31 March 2014 15: 18
    +1
    My friend’s drinking, it’s borzh, the train left. Yanukovych, you didn’t move your finger to prevent this rampant anarchy and nationalism in Ukraine, sit quietly in Rostov-on-Don and wait for the people's court of Ukraine, for your actions and crimes against the people. And the people, no matter how you figure it out, will bring order and justice.
    1. Kamarada
      Kamarada 31 March 2014 16: 05
      0
      people, I think myself - it’s not rezberets itself, help is still needed
  22. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 31 March 2014 15: 19
    +2
    I tried to understand the situation ... it was useless .. it was like a carnival in a madhouse ... only a historical analogy came to mind - the time daddy Makhno is advancing .. in a word, everything is fun ahead
  23. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 31 March 2014 15: 32
    +4
    Damn, now it has become smart !!! am Sits in Rostov and scribbles "correct" letters ... And before 4 years what did you do? Now even without a party left. In the SE in local Soviets, most of the regionals sit, who, following the example of their honorary used leader, rent everything and everyone, shake for their skins and their grabbed, but wonder how it would be more loyal to lie down near Kiev so that they do not get so painfully inserted ... They betrayed their voters and abandoned them!
    People who are not indifferent, sign up!
    http://www.avaaz.org/ru/petition/GENERALNAYa_ASSAMBLEYa_OON_My_zhiteli_YugoVosto
    chnoy_Ukrainy_trebuem_provedeniya_referenduma /? cJFhTgb
  24. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 31 March 2014 15: 38
    +10
    Those people who are now in power in Ukraine are doing everything possible to ensure that the country collapses. All the steps that they take go against the common sense and aspirations of the people. They are either idiots or fulfill the will of those who pay them. Rather the second, because even a complete stupid person will not chop the branch on which he sits.
    In the shortest possible time, in just a month, the new Kiev “Vlad” made it so that no elections in Ukraine are now possible. Whatever candidate wins, either East or West will not recognize him. Opponents will not recognize, elections will not be held, and so on. There is not a single person among the "revolutionaries" who would enjoy the support of more than 15% of voters. And if you look at the potential characters of these elections, and will not. In such conditions, Ukraine as a single state is not visible in any way.

    http://ari.ru/news/7c679cb34
  25. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 31 March 2014 15: 38
    +2
    Judging by the candidates for the President of Ukraine, they will be very "cheerful" and there is still a default ahead! The EU and the West are not going to help much (except for the dry rations, which will obviously be taken away from the caches), Putin is not giving concerts at the border for nothing .. "polite and serious people" I hope are already massively infiltrating into Ukraine. All the show is ahead .. I hope it will do without a lot of blood (except for Bandera ..) Hold on, Ukraine!
  26. Vtel
    Vtel 31 March 2014 15: 40
    +4
    And it’s weak for you, Vitya, to go home to his home market and answer the people’s eyes, rather than sitting on a stove in Rostov, where it’s warm and satisfying. That would have led his eastern people to a right-wing battle with banderlogs.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 31 March 2014 18: 58
      +2
      I recall the words of N. Mordyukova: "... you are a good man, but not an eagle, not an eagle ..." bully
  27. promt26
    promt26 31 March 2014 15: 43
    +5
    All Ukraine under the wing of Russia is a good dream. This is the same familiar Russian world as we found it as contemporaries. However, if you look at the whole picture, not philosophically, but with an armed eye, a depressing picture emerges. Firstly, the zapadents who occupied the central part of Ukraine (Kiev, Chernihiv, etc.), the finished Russophobes. And under the conditions of total ironing of the convolutions that we are observing now, this state will finally turn into Russophobia with a schizophrenic bias! And we cannot fight this. We can forget about the loyalty of the population in Western and Central Ukraine if the Ukrainian issue is resolved by military means. Conclusion on the first observation: why do we need a guerrilla war ?? Secondly, in my opinion, it is better to build a pragmatic economic and political relationship with the population of the South-East loyal to Russia. And we can impose non-aligned status of Ukraine using other means of persuasion. Russia has such delivery vehicles ... i.e. arguments in abundance. No one will allow any missile defense system in the territory under discussion. Russia is not the same. Conclusion on the second observation: no one will be able to glue the West of Ukraine and the South-East. We can safely forget about Ukraine that we knew. And in what capacity the South-East will be formed: whether it is a subject of Russia or a temporarily independent international player, followed by joining Russia, this is a matter of tactics and strategy of the unification process.
  28. Siberian19
    Siberian19 31 March 2014 15: 51
    +14
    what will be similar!
  29. parusnik
    parusnik 31 March 2014 16: 12
    +1
    The South-East wants the next one to stay in Ukraine and that Russia would help, protect, pay salaries, pensions .. But one way or all or nothing .. But everyone in Ukraine has not yet realized .. that joining Russia is the only way ..Although the independence is still putting great pressure on our brains .. Therefore, there is such active anti-Russian propaganda, the image of the enemy is drawn ..
  30. Magadan
    Magadan 31 March 2014 16: 14
    +1
    Quote: aleks700
    Only Little Russians and this does not occur. They cannot organize a strike, but govern the state ...

    Do you think this is straightforward very easy? When will you be kicked out of work at least, maximum - will they be sent to the bunks or will the pravoseks be killed? They are so well done! Despite almost 200 arrests, thousands take to the streets!
    And they will have an organization. We just need normal battle groups, which can be very painful to bite in response. SBUshniki took someone thread, so right away you need to steal a couple of SBUshnikov and agree to an exchange in Russia!
    It is also desirable for their leaders to settle in the same Belgorod. Demonstrations, by the way, can also be held in Russia from time to time, where these leaders will speak without fear. At the same time, prepare the power block of the South-East. Agitate the police so that they silently, without showing off, simply wait in the wings.
    It would be nice to throw leaflets over military bases. If you speak, then for sure. With the seizure of local authority, setting up checkpoints and a good reserve of quick response. It is not necessary to call for separation. You just need to demand that the junta and law-enforcement officers be brought to court, and that an all-Ukrainian referendum on the arrangement of the country, the prohibition of Nazi ideology, etc. In the meantime, there is no referendum - to work calmly without transferring a dime to Kiev. Fortunately, Russia is nearby, we will buy goods from the Southeast.
    1. petrT
      petrT 31 March 2014 16: 29
      0
      So you have to decide on something. Wait when they stick a leaflet on the door that you are "b"? Most of the workers are sitting and shaking, at once everyone did not go to work for two weeks, I do not believe that all of Ukraine lives at the expense of "supermarkets", vegetable gardens with most have dachas.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 31 March 2014 17: 08
      0
      On Yu-F they will climb out of their skin in order to give out their salaries and not bring them to strikes. At least before the vote. But after the vote it will already begin not childishly. Then some state formations will begin to form in pieces. In any situation, the majority does not recognize central Vlad.
    4. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 31 March 2014 17: 48
      +1
      While leaders, organizers in Eastern Ukraine can not be seen. Who specifically support? You can’t help without address!
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 31 March 2014 18: 47
        +2
        This is the first trouble of the southeast. what
    5. Lelek
      Lelek 31 March 2014 18: 54
      +2
      Well, since they are so timid that they cannot defend their families or huts - (the silence of the lambs), then let them sit on benches and wait for them to be sentenced to death. recourse
  31. Stinger
    Stinger 31 March 2014 16: 16
    0
    Requires topping up beer after sludge?
    1. waisson
      waisson 31 March 2014 16: 37
      +3
      I remembered something laughing
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 31 March 2014 18: 45
        +2
        HAPPENED? (count the vowels and consonants). laughing
  32. Giant thought
    Giant thought 31 March 2014 16: 18
    +3
    A little more and the question of federalization will become irrelevant. The question may arise about the existence of Ukraine as a state, in principle. Although this is actually not the state at all, but the victim of an abortion.
  33. nickname 1 and 2
    nickname 1 and 2 31 March 2014 16: 19
    -2
    Quote: promt26
    Russia is not the same.


    YES? It's a pity. But there is a way. Yes simple = guerrilla units! and this is how the guys live in the forests and a little on the conscious. Type: wedge by wedge!

    Inventiveness, no one canceled!
  34. petrT
    petrT 31 March 2014 16: 22
    +3
    Quote: aleks700
    The east and south of Ukraine are needed. These are Nikolaev shipyards, Kharkov defense enterprises that fulfill orders from Russia. Well, Odessa is simply because it is imported.

    Southeast Ukraine is needed, I agree here, but not as regions, etc. As part of Russia, it’s too early, if a referendum is held there and the southeast is wide autonomy within Ukraine, this is the best option for today. Once in 3-5 years it’s possible to become part of Russia, just in that time they’ll raise Crimea, from principle, they will prove to the whole world that everything in Russia is good !!! And again, take a bunch of regions, fill up with resources and money, then the internal regions, as it was in the USSR, will work for everyone except themselves and again we will go to Moscow for sausage and for apples to the south. Let’s be consistent. And it is necessary to help the southeast of Ukraine so that it works for itself and does not feed the whole west.
    1. waisson
      waisson 31 March 2014 16: 41
      +3
      let's fight back the Bandera hydra
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 31 March 2014 18: 43
        +2
        This poster is in all cities of southeast Ukraine. good
  35. Igarr
    Igarr 31 March 2014 16: 31
    +9
    In passing, the author .. TWO ... so, casually increased the number of victims of Ivan the Terrible.
    A trifle .... but nice, huh?
    ...
    ".. and therefore in 1583, at the direction of the tsar, the" Synodic of the Disgraced "was compiled - a list of those 3300 victimswho were (deservedly or undeservedly) persecuted by the state authorities .... "
    Отсюда - ...http://xn--b1adccaencl0bewna2a.xn--p1ai/index.php/history/52-articles/13078-2
    012-12-24-07-46-16
    ...
    At the risk of being misunderstood, I repeat ..... Enough for us to be soft-bodied! We will never be good! To nobody!
    Well and nekhr to breed snot!
    Who is not with us is the enemy. And God forbid - if this one even looks askance. The minimum is castration. Mercy - through a bullet in the forehead.
    And who it turns out to be - Russian, for whom the Ukrainian language is Ukrainian, Ukrainian, for whom Moskkkkaley is on knives, an American, who is distributing cookies - is on my drum. On ..... all of them!
    Because these crazy brainless dogs dared to yap at MY HOMELAND.
    Rabies can only be cured by shooting.
    ...
    I would love to ... start with Makarevich. Ehhhhhhh .......
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 31 March 2014 18: 41
      +4
      I would still demonstrate an extended list: Navalny, Gudkov, Nemtsov, Kasyanov, Novodvorskaya, Udaltsov, well, and with another half-hundred odious scumbags. bully
    2. nahalenok911
      nahalenok911 April 2 2014 19: 39
      0
      Yokr ... on the one hand - castration, on the other - piderastiya ... It's scary to make a choice !! I don’t know, but I wouldn’t want extremes.
  36. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 31 March 2014 16: 43
    +1
    Quote: Magadan
    And what was his way out? Not to run, but to stay, so that the junta injected him with psychotropic drugs and he would sign anything, and then "like a heart attack" and the junta is legitimate?

    Ohrenet! What a way out! President of the country. The head of the VS. Authorization is above the roof! And could not? Yes, he increased his bank accounts! What did he do? History is silent, because nothing. And this History will figure out its dirty existence! am
    1. Sour
      Sour 31 March 2014 17: 44
      0
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Commander in Chief

      They don't have any "VS". Therefore, authority in Ukraine is an empty phrase.
  37. ALEKS419
    ALEKS419 31 March 2014 16: 45
    0
    Quote: Magadan
    And what was his way out? Not to run, but to stay, so that the junta injected him with psychotropic drugs and he would sign anything, and then "like a heart attack" and the junta is legitimate?
    At the moment, the confrontation between the Golden Eagle with the Maidan junta. It would be more correct for Yanukovych himself and families Berkut employees to move to a more friendly territory of Crimea !!!!!!. The layout on the map of the political game was different.
    In this case, the people of Ukraine did not have to prove their legitimacy.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 31 March 2014 17: 11
      0
      if he did so, he would have a surname not Yanukovych, but maybe Putin ..
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  40. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 31 March 2014 17: 50
    0
    I can add Ivan the Terrible signed 6000, and darling Elizabeth of England (a virgin) personally signed 70000, not counting the collective !!! And how did her hand not fall off? request
  41. Cossacks
    Cossacks 31 March 2014 18: 07
    0
    Subject to the preservation of the East as part of modern Ukraine, any decision of the people is doomed to failure!
    It’s hard to add anything. I will wait for the next miracle.
  42. SS68SS
    SS68SS 31 March 2014 18: 31
    0
    ... Ivan IV the Terrible for a long time in his reign signed about 6000 death sentences. On one Bartholomew’s night, by order of Charles IX, 100000 were cut out without any sentences ....


    Bloodthirst has always been disgusting ... In any form.
  43. Lelek
    Lelek 31 March 2014 18: 33
    +3
    Yes, Viktor Fedorovich, there are two of the easiest jobs in the world: to write in the bath and give advice (especially from a safe place). Salvador Allende is not an example for you - he was a real man. soldier
  44. Cristall
    Cristall 31 March 2014 18: 40
    +3
    Is Transnistria so important? I’m reading all the time .. especially the blockade of Transnistria and that they will not endure for a year. Well, I don’t know - in my area I constantly saw goods from Transnistria (by the way illegal in many respects) I was even used to it somehow.
    Largely when I hear Transnistria is automatically my area. Which they grabbed onto, since the Ukrainian sea border had suddenly shrunk sharply.
    Many times he wrote that the city is constantly closely monitored. For me it makes sense to monitor in Ukraine the Lugansk region and Odessa. The first is a big sponsor of the Ukrainian economy, the second is the last major gate to the world's oceans.
    In any case, the junta is vigilantly watching over us.
  45. demotivator
    demotivator 31 March 2014 18: 45
    +2
    What is Eastern Ukraine - the raw material pillow of Europe?

    On this occasion - Ukraine’s membership in the EU is such an anecdote:
    - Mykola, and sho tse "associate membership"?
    - Well, godmother, Ukraine will participate in the EU.
    - So, will enter the EU?
    - No, it will not enter, but will participate.
    - Yak so?
    - Well, roughly, like eggs in sexual intercourse: participate, but do not enter. And so, hang around next
    1. Des10
      Des10 31 March 2014 19: 11
      0
      Bravo, a very accurate comparison! laughing
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  46. Chikua
    Chikua 31 March 2014 18: 56
    0
    112 ua channel Ukraine deceived everyone. He reported that at a rally in Donetsk less than 1 thousand people
  47. Chikua
    Chikua 31 March 2014 19: 07
    +1
    Exile Banderlog from Duke
    1. leman
      leman April 2 2014 18: 00
      0
      Like hunted rabbits. This is not a crowd on the Independence Square to beat unarmed soldiers, knowing a hundred, they will not do anything in return. Speeches are born impromptu
  48. Lelek
    Lelek 31 March 2014 19: 09
    +4
    V.I. Lenin (who is Ulyanov) declared that cooks and janitors could rule the state, but he never assumed that the state would be governed by stoned gangsters, prostitutes and boxers who were frostbitten. My friend was mistaken. bully
  49. Palych9999
    Palych9999 31 March 2014 19: 18
    +3
    In fact, I’m tired of frank whining of visitors from the eastern regions of Ukraine at all kinds of domestic talk shows.
    "Oh, yes, you can help, oh, they are fascists there, oh, they took our boy to Kyev and arrested him for 2 months ..."
    Like, you send your soldiers with a syud, hi they and the Maydan trochs will shoot each other, and we will look from the window and half-bite the seeds.
    Horror, gas prices for good people want to increase by 50% !! (and their gas price is now lower than ours, this gas producer, looked at prices, was not too lazy)
    They choked on the cracks and whined ...
    It reminds of a joke when a crowd of men (probably Ukrainians) ticks along the street, and behind them is one lad with a cudgel. They are spared, they say, you won’t be lost, but he is alone. So they answer: "But we do not know with whom exactly he will fight."
    And do they need to be protected? From whom? For what? Whining causes only the fact that something there can go up in price, and in Keyev some sort of fuck-ups.
    But objectively, except for the vile firing of provocateurs on the Maidan on those and others, NO ONE has killed, driven out, or robbed
    We have more idiotic killings in any regional center per day than nicknames all over Ukraine in the "height of class and interethnic" massacre "!!!
    Whom to protect?
    From whom? What for?
    And the truth is, EVERY PEOPLE DESERVES ITS GOVERNMENT.
    Slaves - servile life!
  50. darksoul
    darksoul 31 March 2014 19: 51
    0
    But do not send us a parcel Yanukovych home? I think Ukrainians will be delighted with such a gift for more equipment shipped from the Crimea and forget about the Crimea