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Three officers from Russia



London proposes to reduce military cooperation with Russia. Earlier, a similar threat was voiced by Paris, but immediately made a reservation that the Mistral contract remains in force until October at least. Berlin has abstained from a spectacular gesture. Russian experts remind that military cooperation with NATO was rather decorative.

On the issue of the conflict in Ukraine, Russia "acts more like an adversary than as a partner" of NATO, said Supreme Commander-in-Chief of NATO in Europe, American General Philippe Breedlove, speaking at an expert Brussels forum on Sunday.

And British Foreign Secretary William Hague called for excluding Russia from some international organizations, RIA reported on Sunday.News". Haig said that after the Crimea was annexed to the Russian Federation, Great Britain and its allies should build a “new partnership” with Moscow. "It should include the exclusion of Russia from some international organizations, the imposition of long-term restrictions on military cooperation and arms sales and limiting influence (RF) in the rest of Europe," the British minister wrote.

“The joint naval exercises of the USA, France and Russia were canceled, calls to Russian ports of British ships, including St. Petersburg, were canceled, contacts of the military and officials in the Ministry of Defense were suspended,” said Haig earlier. He said that the UK is studying military contracts with Russia and licenses for the supply of arms to it, and also promised technological assistance to Ukraine.

A day earlier, the French authorities made a similar statement. France has canceled the upcoming joint military exercises with Russia and will consider the possible cancellation of the delivery of Mistral warships to Russia. France has suspended most of its military-technical cooperation with Russia, but is going to fulfill its international obligations, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said on Friday while visiting Estonia.

In particular, he said, the previously planned joint exercises will be canceled, as well as mutual visits of the two countries' military, as the newspaper VIEW has written. At the same time, France expects to maintain contacts with Russia related to the need to fulfill international obligations.
Le Drian did not talk about the fate of contracts for the supply of helicopter carriers "Mistral". A day earlier, he said that the question of a possible suspension would be considered "not earlier than October" of the current year. “The elements of the corps are now being created by Russia, and this procedure as a whole is not easy,” the minister reminded. “The delivery of the first ship is due in October, so the question of the possible suspension of the Mistral contract will be adopted in October.”

"It was reduced to the exchange of delegations"

Military-technical cooperation (MTC), about which there is so much talk, was not really so significant, experts remind. So, the former head of the press service of the Ministry of Defense, Vyacheslav Sedov, notes that Moscow didn’t have any military-technical cooperation programs with Washington, "there were only separate agreements with several European countries, but they were insignificant."

“Military cooperation basically consisted of an exchange of delegations on various aspects of the army’s activities and fleet, very rare joint exercises of a local nature, sending officers to study for short-term courses, the participation of specialized specialists in seminars, and other similar forums related to ensuring European and global security. Therefore, in fact, our overseas partners do not have levers of pressure on Russia through the military department, and they are well aware of this, ”Sedov told VZGLYAD newspaper.
In turn, the Vice-President of the PIR Center, the former head of the international contractual administration is the deputy head of the main department of international military cooperation of the Ministry of Defense, Lieutenant-General Yevgeny Buzhinsky is convinced that the MTC is mutually beneficial.

“The US does not help us in a military line. We in 1999 year, due to the Balkan events, stopped military cooperation with NATO, then it angered many of its members, after some time, cooperation was resumed. So it was after August 2008, then the Americans and NATO themselves ceased cooperation, but a year passed, and we again began to work together. This cooperation is more profitable for them than for us, until they withdraw their troops from Afghanistan, ”he stressed.
Igor Korotchenko, editor-in-chief of the National Defense magazine, believes that winding up the partnership will in no way harm Russia: “This cooperation was more decorative. From a practical point of view, this did not give us anything. ”

Afghanistan, anti-terror and old ammunition

The Russians held annual joint exercises with the Americans since 1993. In the 1999 year, due to the attack on Yugoslavia, Moscow broke off relations with NATO and the United States. They later resumed, as it was after the 11 attacks of September 2001, then interrupted again.

Moscow’s cooperation with NATO as a whole has long been narrow. For example, on December 4, the Russia-NATO Council adopted the NRC Work Program for 2014. As reported on the Council’s website, cooperation on Afghanistan was outlined through the well-established Trust Fund for the maintenance of helicopters of the NRC supporting the Afghan Air Force. drug trafficking.

It was planned to continue the work of the Ad Hoc Working Group on the Terrorist Threat in the Euro-Atlantic Region, as well as to implement the Cooperation Initiative on Detection and Response to Threats Associated with the Hijacking of Aircraft In addition, work continued on the development of the STANDEKS Remote Detection Program for Explosives. This advanced technology will help to increase the ability to prevent terrorist attacks over time.

The Russia-NATO Council also decided to create a Trust Fund for the disposal of surplus ammunition. Designed for 5 years, the project was mapped out for the Kaliningrad region, where the Defense Ministry was planning, using NATO technology, to secure the safe destruction of the ammunition accumulated from the war. As suggested by military expert Dmitry Litovkin, the project will now be frozen until the parties sit down again at the negotiating table. The same fate is likely to befall those transit agreements of 2012 of the year, providing for the use of the airfield in Ulyanovsk.

Earlier this week, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen announced that the alliance is reviewing cooperation with Russia. Moscow, for example, will not be allowed to participate together with the forces of the alliance in the protection of the ship, on board of which the Syrian chemical weapons will be destroyed, threatened Rasmussen. True, he did not specify on what grounds he puts forward such threats if the operation to export Syrian chemical weapons is carried out by decision of the UN, and not NATO.

Mistrali and Russia

Concerning stories with the French helicopter carriers, experts have been skeptical of this initiative of Anatoly Serdyukov for the last six years. “The very idea of ​​buying“ Mistral ”from France from the very beginning was a bad idea, and therefore it is possible that breaking a contract is much more beneficial for Russia,” Yevgeny Buzhinsky told the newspaper.

The opinion of the general is shared by Vyacheslav Sedov: “As for the notorious Mistrals, even at the time when this“ bright ”idea was born, sober-minded experts warned that their order was just a betrayal of Russia's national interests. Really, at the time when we are building super-modern nuclear submarines that have no analogues in the world, we suddenly needed to turn to France for help ?! ”.

However, the source of the newspaper in the apparatus of the Russian military department said that at one time, having ordered two helicopter carriers at shipyards in Saint-Nazaire, Moscow went to meet then-President Nicolas Sarkozy. “The company was on the verge of bankruptcy at that time, and they were going to close it. So we helped Sarkozy so that he could save the enterprise. This gave him great trump cards before the election, ”explained the source.

Yevgeny Buzhinsky emphasizes that the failure of an order can be costly for the French themselves: “France itself will suffer, not Russia. They do not buy from us, and we from them. They will refuse to do the work, they will return the money, and the sanctions will pay 700 billion euros, ”he explained. Buzhinsky was supported by Igor Korotchenko. “If there is a rupture of contracts, then we will return the money and pay a penalty. The refusal of the French to us will only be on hand, we will build our big landing ships, ”he told the newspaper VIEW.

The fate of the landfill in Mulino

Berlin, unlike London and Paris, has not yet announced the suspension of military cooperation with Russia. In practice, however, it gradually collapses. Berlin on Friday imposed a ban on the contract under which the Germans were going to equip the center of combat training of ground forces in Mulino near Nizhny Novgorod.

As Deutsche Welle recalls, a contract worth 120 million euros was signed in early 2011 by former Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov and the head of the Rheinmetall concern Klaus Eberhardt. The center was planned to be put into operation in June this year. In a training complex equipped with the latest technology, 30 thousand fighters could be trained annually tank and motorized rifle troops.

A spokesman for the Ministry of Economy and Energy, Tobias Dunov, called the ban “an isolated case”, but added that “due to the current situation in Russia, no permits will be issued to export arms to this country”. However, in the past 10 years, Berlin has never been allowed to sell weapons to Russia made at German military factories.

Relations between Berlin and Moscow were not particularly intense in other areas of military cooperation. Periodically come to study officers of the Russian army. This year there were three of them. One of them has already completed language courses and has gone home, the second is still learning German, and the third is mastering the art of headquarters in Germany. They decided not to interrupt their studies.

If a break in the Mulino contract occurs, it will be urgently necessary to build this work by ourselves, Russian experts admit. “In Mulino several exercises of the company level were carried out, which, in principle, boiled down to shooting practice and sports competitions. In this case, it was the guests who had something to learn from us, they needed it more than us. And, by the way, at the tactical level, good partnerships of military professionals developed at the test site. Now, not only will we lose, but they themselves will simply lose a lot, ”said Sedov.

"We are not used to"

The United States, in turn, at the beginning of the week, within the first package of sanctions, banned its businessmen from cooperating with the Russian defense industry complex.
As for contracts for the supply of military equipment and equipment, then, according to experts, they are small and will not affect Russia, but there are exceptions. “The volume of weapons purchased in the US is 1%. Most of the equipment purchased in the West went to our equipment, which, in turn, was exported to third countries, Dmitry Litovkin told VZGLYAD newspaper. - For example, Su-30 MKI and MiG fighters, MiG - 29K, which India is currently buying, have the French system on them. So the French, it turns out, are not plotting to us, but on the Hindus and others. ”
In the event of a contract break, the expert is confident that the States will lose more than Russia: “Energomash supplied engines for American missiles. Americans, of course, claim that they have already stocked them, but if they intensively develop the space industry, they will still have to buy engines, ”Litovkin said. “We must remember that a company such as Boeing buys 787 Dreamliner 40% titanium products in Russia for modern aircraft.”

At the same time, the Russian military industrial complex purchases an ECB (electronic base component) in the USA. Moreover, according to Litovkin, the chips themselves in the United States are only being developed, and they are made in Southeast Asia. “The United States supplied the basic elements for the needs of Roscosmos. However, after a scandal with the NSA agent Snowden appeared last year, the State Department for the first time banned the supply of parts for Roscosmos. Therefore, it was decided to look for new partners in Europe and China, ”the expert explained.

According to Litovkin, a break in relations with the defense industry of Ukraine may have a much harder effect on Russia. And this is not connected with the aircraft "Ruslan", "they still have not made a decision to release them or not," but with the supply of engines for helicopters and warranty service for intercontinental ballistic missiles.

“Motor Sich Plant in Zaporozhye manufactures the entire range of engines of all our helicopters, including the most modern Mi-28. This is all significant, because our own Klimov plant in St. Petersburg is not yet ready for such volumes. We will have to use forced methods to establish this production, ”Litovkin warned.

The Russian defense ministry responded promptly to the threats of the West. Deputy Minister Yury Borisov, at the beginning of the week, said that sanctions against the Russian defense industry could in no way prevent the rearmament of the Armed Forces.

“The Ministry of Defense conducts a detailed analysis of all risks associated with possible sanctions and non-deliveries of a number of products by enterprises of Ukraine. I believe that we will eliminate situations of disruption of the state defense order, so let them not hope, ”said Borisov. According to him, the industry will not be easier, but “we are no stranger to.” “I think the country gained much more after the recent events than it lost, even in view of the possible sanctions with which we are frightened,” concluded Borisov.
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  1. moremansf
    moremansf 25 March 2014 18: 44
    +25
    They don’t want to, we’ll develop our shipbuilding !!!
    1. schizophrenic
      schizophrenic 25 March 2014 19: 12
      +15
      Where is France going, if the crisis in Europe over Ukraine begins, then the remaining Mistrals will receive a discount on 2. laughing
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 25 March 2014 20: 33
        +14
        but what they write on other blogs
        tearing up | March 25, 2014 at 1:59 pm | Reply

        Americans have a day of mourning. In Sevastopol cry. Closed Broadway and Hollywood.
        Flags are lowered at all American embassies. For three days, the shooting of The Throne War was stopped. The baseball league will play with black armbands.
        A funeral hearse race has been staged in St. Louis. The nation is choking in sobs. No one eats anything. Psychoanalysts went on strike for two hours. Emma Watson, Scarlett Johansson
        and Jennifer Lawrence published a joint message that they would abstain from sex for a week in solidarity with the grieving American people.
        Sevastopol! What a pain in the American heart! What a cramp!
        1. Delink
          Delink 25 March 2014 20: 44
          +4
          Emma Watson, Scarlett Johansson and Jennifer Lawrence published a joint message that they would abstain from sex for a week in solidarity with the grieving American people.


          They are completely frenzied without him. At least the balls drove the anal oneself.
        2. platitsyn70
          platitsyn70 25 March 2014 20: 49
          +7
          Americans are struggling in impotent tantrums, Obama needs to send an invitation to Obama, let nerves come to us in the Crimea, heal the air, breathe in and think about their miserable fate.
        3. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 25 March 2014 21: 14
          +7
          And what is the fate of Sevastopol! We lost it three (!) Times. By the way, through the efforts of "European integrators". And three raa returned. I hope there won't be a fourth loss!
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 25 March 2014 23: 11
        +1
        Quote: schizophrenic
        Where is France going, if the crisis in Europe over Ukraine begins, then the remaining Mistrals will receive a discount on 2.

        Indeed, why not bargain in the circumstances?
    2. vo.dum
      vo.dum 25 March 2014 21: 42
      +4
      and not only shipbuilding ... but about plants associated with our military-industrial complex ... they have a significant share of capital growth ... so if you can’t defend them, you need to put them in an inoperable state and destroy or remove all the NT documentation field activities for our special services ... are our factories and amers should not be given ...
  2. parus2nik
    parus2nik 25 March 2014 18: 49
    +4
    and also promised technological assistance to Ukraine ... in the form of selfless help ..? For nothing or for chernozem .. smile
    And the rest, I do not care, not much and wanted .. Time will tell who is hu ..
  3. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 25 March 2014 18: 52
    +4
    Upload your defense industry with orders and independence and prosperity for your citizens. Civil engineering in Russia is not the best, but in the military field it can teach many.
  4. saag
    saag 25 March 2014 18: 53
    +3
    It’s interesting why, after the beginning of the Maidan and still in the press nothing was heard about Boguslaev, they wrote earlier, then they made a new engine for the Mi-8, then something else, and now silence
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 25 March 2014 19: 39
      +2
      Quote: saag
      It is interesting why, after the beginning of the Maidan and still in the press about Boguslaev

      ... but why advertise and for whom?
      Who needs to know - everyone is in the know.
      For any of their aviation industry will work with us. Motr Sich - opens a base in Russia ...
  5. siberalt
    siberalt 25 March 2014 18: 55
    +5
    Let them help fix the iPhone error. laughing
  6. predator.3
    predator.3 25 March 2014 18: 56
    +12
    Moscow met the then president Nicolas Sarkozy. “The company at that time was on the verge of bankruptcy, and they were going to close it. So we helped Sarkozy so that he could save the enterprise. This gave him big trump cards before the election, ”the source said.

    And Sarkozy "helped" M. Gaddafi ... am
  7. konvalval
    konvalval 25 March 2014 19: 00
    +3
    They scared the woman with a thick banana. The last exercises somehow held without them on their territory. But production will increase.
  8. omsbon
    omsbon 25 March 2014 19: 01
    +3
    Any stick has two ends, and sanctions, they hit everyone!
    We are no strangers to sanctions, and the "partners" are unlikely to like the response.
  9. Boomer
    Boomer 25 March 2014 19: 02
    +1
    it was necessary not to click the beak, but by themselves to gradually make air and helicopter carriers
  10. Quantum
    Quantum 25 March 2014 19: 04
    +5
    Wherever you go, Serdyukov’s intrigues are everywhere! It’s time to judge for the damage
    RUSSIA in the defense industry and blame some of the losses on it (somewhere, stolen billions lie in a cache or in a bank).
  11. Sergey-ADE2
    Sergey-ADE2 25 March 2014 19: 08
    +4
    Maybe, finally, our factories will slowly come to life and specialists will not leave idleness over the hill. And if they would have kicked us out of the WTO, they wouldn’t even expel us, they don’t even hint because we went there on enslaving conditions here and the bastards are silent; they don’t stutter about the WTO.
  12. Alex_sw4
    Alex_sw4 25 March 2014 19: 08
    +4
    We got out of such an ass .. into which, by the way, our "partners" helped to get deeper than ever ..
  13. mamont5
    mamont5 25 March 2014 19: 11
    +4
    Only our own defense industry will allow us to sneeze on their sanctions. Develop your own.
    1. Cherdak
      Cherdak 25 March 2014 20: 15
      +5
      Quote: mamont5
      Only its own defense industry
  14. nikcris
    nikcris 25 March 2014 19: 13
    +9
    It is high time to stop any "exchanges of delegations" - it is hare to thump for the state account. am drinks
    1. Cherdak
      Cherdak 25 March 2014 20: 23
      +3
      Quote: nikcris
      It is high time to stop any "exchanges of delegations" - it is hare to thump for the state account.

      That’s for sure, otherwise they give out secrets, you know ...
  15. Leshka
    Leshka 25 March 2014 19: 13
    +2
    it’s only for us to develop our
  16. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 25 March 2014 19: 15
    +3
    Such "cooperation" should not be imposed on anyone; it boiled down to mutual monitoring (espionage) of the state of the armed forces.
  17. nizrum
    nizrum 25 March 2014 19: 17
    +4
    It’s time to build a normal microprocessor plant, otherwise we’re carrying a lot of electronics from abroad.
  18. Gagarin
    Gagarin 25 March 2014 19: 19
    +4
    I think with the sanctions of the United States we all understood, got excited, they just don’t know how to get out of the stupid situation beautifully. Ambitions of a world leader do not allow, and the crown does not hold anymore ...
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 26 March 2014 01: 39
      0
      Kuravlev and Yakovlev have long prepared an episode about US sanctions against Russia:

      (Kuravlev - John Kerry, Yakovlev - Obama).
  19. darksoul
    darksoul 25 March 2014 19: 26
    +8
    Quote: Alex_sw4
    We got out of such an ass.



    100% after 90s there is nothing to scare us, but they haven’t had 90s yet
  20. Russkiy_Prapor
    Russkiy_Prapor 25 March 2014 19: 29
    +7
    Gas and oil should be supplied in rubles, and partially in China for the yuan. If Germany finally ceases to cherish the United States and finds the courage to withdraw from the EU, then it’s personally possible for it to sell gas for deutsche marks (we will then buy everything we need for these marks). It is necessary to hit without stopping from different directions, so that the enemy does not have a break and is knocked out in the flesh before being knocked out.
    1. Artyom
      Artyom 25 March 2014 19: 56
      +2
      Germany cannot be an independent country to the end, it is still an occupied territory! On its territory are Americans and British. She even has a constitution not universally adopted, as in other countries, but issued by the United States.
    2. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 25 March 2014 20: 01
      +1
      Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
      If Germany finally ceases to fawn before the United States

      They cannot but cuddle before the minke whales, they are afraid of us.
  21. jktu66
    jktu66 25 March 2014 19: 44
    +3
    Perhaps the most advantageous for Russia in military cooperation with the West is technology, but no one has canceled economic intelligence yet. This is what needs to be developed instead of "cooperation". In the troubled 1990s, the West profited greatly from our secrets and know-how. China is churning out clones of our aircraft and tanks and is happy. Bulgaria is not going to pay for the production of small arms copies of the Kalashnikov. And we must leave the WTO as a mirror response to sanctions.
  22. Denis Tatar
    Denis Tatar 25 March 2014 19: 47
    +3
    cooperate with "preachers of sodomy" should not be at all, there is a risk of becoming the same
  23. Maks-80
    Maks-80 25 March 2014 19: 49
    +3
    We will only benefit from this. Download and rebuild your defense plants. And most importantly, get rid of the criminal legacy of Serdyukov. In the form of Misrals and the rest.
  24. kelevra
    kelevra 25 March 2014 19: 49
    +2
    We need to get out of all agreements restricting our military freedom and everything. NATO, this is our enemy, it was created for our control!
  25. Denis Tatar
    Denis Tatar 25 March 2014 19: 54
    +5
    Alexander II (if I am mistaken, sorry) said: Russia has only two allies - the Army and the Navy.
  26. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 25 March 2014 19: 56
    +1
    At one time, S.S.S.R. he produced everything himself, without buying anything, only sold. Taking into account the current realities of the sanctions, this is unpleasant, but not fatal. The three weakest points: components from Ukraine, electronics and CNC machines. On Mistrals, the conversation is generally short, let them pay a penalty and expensive. But the rest is not so simple.
    If the sanctions war continues, France may refuse Russia not only the Mistrals, but also the weapons that experts call the most promising and in demand in our army: these are UAVs, modern equipment of the future soldier, French electrochemical generators based on Siemens fuel cells, non-volatile power plants for submarines, sonar stations for the Navy, naval mine search and destruction systems according to the course of the ship, thermal imagers and transmissions for armored vehicles, sniper shooting systems, aircraft suspended optoelectronic containers, wheeled armored vehicles with enhanced anti-mine and anti-explosive protection. ” This equipment usually has no modern Russian analogues.



    Читать полностью: http://www.km.ru/economics/2014/03/22/protivostoyanie-na-ukraine-2013-14/735371-
    torgovye-sanktsii-zapada-na-marshe-ve

    We, as well as before the Great Patriotic War, do not have enough time again, but I think that the country will cope, as it did then. But for the future, so that there are no such problems, we must of course do our own. Let's hope that this lesson for whom, will not be in vain.
  27. shelva
    shelva 25 March 2014 19: 57
    +3
    The more refusals for deliveries from the West we receive, the more intensively domestic industry will develop. If we were able at the time in a matter of months to transfer dozens of factories to the Urals, then we can handle this.
  28. les103284
    les103284 25 March 2014 19: 58
    +2
    "And I want to, and inject, and my mother does not order" it seems that our western "partners" are guided by this principle! Scared! If we intelligently and competently dispose of all the military-industrial potential of Russia, then we will practically be the leaders of the military industry. And it’s time to rely only on our own forces in the sphere of the country's defense capability!
  29. sv68
    sv68 25 March 2014 20: 04
    +2
    and the reality that we are losing something that we need is not sold by Rossi and that it is not necessary for nothing, they are prigladyvayut.you from your sanctions much more Russia will lose
  30. max702
    max702 25 March 2014 20: 26
    +5
    It’s time to cover the base in Ulyanovsk, 60% of the cargo to Afghanistan passes through it. So, we’ll see how the Pentagon will howl, and in general, what they bring there in their containers there is a big question .. it seems to me that reconnaissance equipment is also there from afghanistan is flowing ..
  31. Andrey SPB
    Andrey SPB 25 March 2014 20: 27
    +2
    For a long time it was necessary to release everything ourselves !!!!!!!!!!
  32. Delink
    Delink 25 March 2014 20: 32
    +2
    Russia can only rely on itself and on its military forces.
  33. Stinger
    Stinger 25 March 2014 20: 32
    +2
    Scattered anthill GDP. Let them move the brain gyrus now. Let them interrupt. It’s just interesting how they will return their astronauts from the ISS.
    1. Delink
      Delink 25 March 2014 20: 39
      0
      It would be nice to block access to the ISS for all non-Russian cosmonauts.
  34. Kulneff2009
    Kulneff2009 25 March 2014 20: 50
    +3
    Maybe all this will serve as an impetus for our defense industry?
  35. tol100v
    tol100v 25 March 2014 20: 59
    +1
    Quote: parus2nik
    For a gift or for black earth

    Yes, two square meters ..
  36. common man
    common man 25 March 2014 21: 20
    +2
    Well. Instead of the incomprehensible helicopter carrier "Sevastopol", they received the unsinkable aircraft carrier "KRYM". And who can say that Russia is a loser?
  37. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 25 March 2014 21: 29
    +2
    Have you noticed the brothers? Recently, neither Jews nor Azerbaijanis can be seen on the site at all, you don’t know what happened to them, did they give us a boycott, or realized that it was useless to argue with us, we’ll do it the way we want.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 25 March 2014 21: 45
      +5
      Quote: cherkas.oe
      Recently, no Jews can be seen on the site at all. Azerbaijanis,

      .............. winked
      what repents visitors from Israel
      http://topwar.ru/42252-neizvestnye-podrobnosti-unichtozheniya-amerikanskih-bomba

      rdirovschikov-nevidimok-v-nebe-yugoslavii.html # comment-id-2147330
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 26 March 2014 12: 06
        0
        Quote: Apollon
        what repents visitors from Israel

        Oh, thank you, I saw a sea lion, but he looks like a seal, but about the "professor" I only indirectly realized that he was on a branch, apparently I was on his black list because I did not see his comments.
    2. kush62
      kush62 26 March 2014 04: 35
      0
      Have you noticed the brothers? Recently, neither Jews nor Azerbaijanis can be seen on the site at all, you don’t know what happened to them, did they give us a boycott, or realized that it was useless to argue with us, we’ll do it the way we want.

      Smirnov and Asgard are not visible either. Smirnov has no reason to roll the barrel at Putin, while Asgard has no reason to subtly and cunningly bend the nationalist line. His calls for decisive action and change of power are not heard.
  38. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 25 March 2014 21: 33
    +2
    Quote: moremansf
    They don’t want to, we’ll develop our shipbuilding !!!

    There is a silver lining! It has long been clear that with so many sworn "friends" and "partners" Russia is simply DOED, if, of course, it wants to have the Armed Forces, always equipped with modern weapons, to produce ALL weapons, including the "stuffing" at DOMESTIC enterprises!
  39. kocclissi
    kocclissi 25 March 2014 21: 38
    +2
    Hope for someone, but don’t be fooled! So with industry!
  40. Andrey57
    Andrey57 25 March 2014 21: 48
    +2
    “Motor Sich Plant in Zaporozhye manufactures the entire range of engines of all our helicopters, including the most modern Mi-28. This is all significant, because our own Klimov plant in St. Petersburg is not yet ready for such volumes. We will have to use forced methods to establish this production, ”Litovkin warned.


    Complete nonsense - it was announced last week that only Russian engines are currently being installed on the Mi-28 entering the Russian troops, and with the commissioning of new capacities near St. Petersburg there will be no need for Motor Sich products at all
  41. ochakow703
    ochakow703 25 March 2014 21: 57
    +2
    Poor mess, I already feel sorry for him. He climbed like a hen to the nipple. It would be nice already in the ass (and he generally advocates for this, he didn’t even come to our Olympics for that), so I want to keep the striped mugs. That's bad luck, and all this Putin! Why is he so smart, well, in general, he does not look like his predecessors. After all, how cool it was when spotted and EBN didn’t work !!!
  42. fif21
    fif21 25 March 2014 22: 17
    +2
    They collaborated with Hitler from 1936-1941 on their own! German pilots and tankers studied in the USSR, exchanged military delegations, and you know how it ended. And sanctions, God be with them, are not even worth mirroring. More noise from nothing! The bourgeoisie know how to count money, they will quickly reason with their governments if they lose their profit. Yes, and we also need to think about OUR profit. To revise oil and gas prices in view of the fact that it is necessary to compensate for the losses from their sanctions and on the same basis, to reasonably increase the fee for using our launch vehicles, airports, transit services, etc. Open a discussion about whether we need The dollar as a reserve currency? Announce the creation of your payment system. Put the modern weapons of Syria, but there’s a lot of good and good to do.
    1. family tree
      family tree 25 March 2014 22: 57
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      Quote: fif21
      They collaborated with Hitler from 1936-1941 on their own! German pilots, tankers studied in the USSR, exchanged military delegations,

      Military cooperation with Germany, just because of the rise of the Nazis to power, was curtailed. As for 39-41, there was trade, the range of goods, on the one hand and the other, is freely available. Purchased German industrial equipment helped a lot, before, after, and during the war.
  43. typhoon7
    typhoon7 25 March 2014 22: 27
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    Recent events have confirmed that weapons should be their own. In fighters there is an element base of a potential enemy, "Superjets", "Mistrals" and so on, we urgently need to raise our industry.
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 26 March 2014 00: 47
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      "Superjets" are civilian .. "Mistrals" are generally another story, we will not soon find out what the "laces" were in what part of our policy .. and, on all other types of weapons only for export at the request of the Customer .. Indians wanted thermal imagers The French on the T-90, but they saved on the air conditioner .. the result is known, our complaint is not accepted .. you had to think guys, you were warned .. :) .. and the French sing the same thing: .. offered with a cooling unit, you did not order him .. :) :)
  44. Yura Gagarin
    Yura Gagarin 26 March 2014 00: 32
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    Geyropa fulfills the role of a concubine to the end .... but the capitalists, for profit, are ready to nibble the eggs, therefore, Mr. Soros, past ... everything you taught .... enjoy!)))
  45. Cossacks
    Cossacks 26 March 2014 04: 39
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    To the authors of the article. You have listed the facts from other sources, and where is your own opinion, analysis. Or why was it all written.
  46. Known who
    Known who 26 March 2014 06: 40
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    In a sense, crises and sanctions benefit Russia, after such shocks our economy receives an additional impetus for development.