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Goodbye GMO - goodbye WTO?

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After Russia’s accession to the World Trade Organization (22 August 2012), the Russian market, according to WTO standards, should reconsider its, let's say, relation to genetically modified products or GMOs (genetically modified organisms), in effect declaring them safe for human health.


For reference: the process of generating GMOs consists in creating systems at the molecular-genetic level outside the living organism (for example, plants) with the subsequent “replanting” of these artificially created systems into living organisms. The purpose of this process is the creation of GMOs of genetically modified food (GMF) so that the growing human population does not have a shortage of food. At the initial stage, it was planned that food created on the basis of GMOs with the help of humans would become a real food panacea for the poorest countries of the world (from Haiti to Somalia, from Afghanistan to Sudan).

Plants derived from the creation of GMOs, usually have a high resistance to the effects of fungi, insects; they are able to survive in arid areas, requiring a minimum of water for irrigation, or not requiring it at all, being saturated with minimal amounts of moisture from the soil.

Plant GMOs can change the constituent structural chains of proteins, fats and carbohydrates, which makes scientists think about how dangerous systematic consumption of GMFs can be for a human body that is accustomed to natural food. However, in the scientific world to this day there are disputes over whether genetically modified products can cause harm to the human body or not. Numerous experiments conducted in various laboratories around the world enable one scientist to draw conclusions that the systematic use of GMOs in food provokes an increase in mortality from oncological diseases, and another - the possibility of putting the findings of the first into question, accusing of fabricating data. At the same time, some say that they are fighting for informational objectivity, trying to protect humanity from a new threat. They accuse supporters of the introduction of GMOs that they profess purely commercial interests. Their opponents say that all the conclusions of the first ones are contrived, and that these scientists simply do not want to be aware of the pace of development of genetic engineering, which is constantly subjected to persecution and criticism, and do not want to “feed the hungry.”

It is the complexity of the assessments of scientists today does not allow to make unambiguous conclusions and at the state legislative level - conclusions about the harm of GMOs for humans. That is why GMO producers use confusion when promoting their products to certain markets, hoping for success due to the relatively low price for products of this kind and its substantial volumes as a percentage of the so-called environmentally friendly products (of natural origin). Some countries impose a categorical ban on the import of GMOs and the cultivation of these organisms on their territory, others oblige manufacturers to label products, in fact, the entire responsibility for purchasing them “hanging” on the buyer, and others are not at all ready to go de facto into details product or not there.

Surprisingly, to this day, with a seemingly active regulation of the import of GMOs, Russia belongs to the third group of countries. But in fact, the rules here are quite blurred.

The first legislative act, which in Russia gave the right to a certain regulation of genetically modified objects, appeared 5 July 1996 of the year. This is №86-ФЗ “On state regulation in the field of genetic engineering activity” signed by B.N. Yeltsin. For the first time in our country, this law defines both GMOs and transgenic organisms, and also states what decisions the government intends to take in connection with the appearance of virtually new food products in the world.

From Art. 5 No.86-FZ (1996 year):

The main directions of state regulation in the field of genetic engineering
The main directions of state regulation in the field of genetic engineering are:
improving the human condition and protecting his health;
protection and restoration of the environment, preservation of biological diversity;
increasing the efficiency of agriculture;
increasing the efficiency of the mining and processing industries;
ensuring the preservation and improvement of personnel, professional training in the field of genetic engineering.

Genetic engineering activities should be based on the following principles:
safety of citizens (individuals) and the environment;
the safety of clinical trials of methods of gene diagnostics and gene therapy (gene therapy) at the level of somatic cells;
(the paragraph is introduced by the Federal Law from 12.07.2000 N 96-FZ)
the general availability of information on the safety of genetic engineering activities;
mandatory confirmation of compliance of products containing the results of genetic engineering activity, with full information on the methods of production and properties of this product;
(in the edition of the Federal Law from 30.12.2008 N 313-FZ)
state registration of genetically modified organisms intended for release into the environment, as well as products obtained using such organisms or containing such organisms.
(the paragraph was introduced by the Federal law of 04.10.2010 N 262-ФЗ).


Article 10 of the same law explains how the general accessibility of information on the safety of GMOs should be implemented. According to the letter of this article, the company engaged in the creation of GMOs should provide information about the products, quote: "at the request of interested parties." In Article 11 it is added that such products must undergo mandatory standardization, certification and declaration.

It is worth recalling that the document was signed by Yeltsin on July 5 1996. This is the time when Yeltsin won (as is commonly believed) in the elections in the second round, but in fact until the inauguration in August 1996 of the year disappeared altogether from public policy due to poor health. It is noteworthy that it was during this period that the law appeared, which, by and large, apart from the definition of GMOs and genetic engineering, little was regulated at all.

The letter of this law, as can be seen, was at least corrected from the above mentioned article 5, but the essence remained the same - it was simply impossible to obtain exact information about the harm of such products. It is from 90-s that Russia has become a country that is actively importing products based on genetically modified soybeans, corn, rice, and sugar beets. But imports by import, but only the citizens of Russia did not have any effective opportunity to find out what they are taking as food. And for obvious reasons, for the majority of Russians in 90's, where the problem was more generally to feed their family than the problem of what was the composition of the food products purchased in stores ...

Over time, when the world began to say that GMOs and transgenic products may well lead to irreversible processes in the human body, the interest of Russians in the composition of what they eat (that is, what we eat) has increased significantly. It would seem that it is just right to comply with the same Yeltsin federal law, at least in terms of “the general availability of security information ...”, but there’s a problem - with accessibility, everything is extremely difficult at the moment, and it’s probably even more difficult with security.

In other words, today GMOs in Russia are only imported from abroad, but to find an inscription on the product that it was made using GMO technology is, to put it mildly, difficult, or rather, almost impossible.

As a simple experiment, your obedient servant decided to study labels and stickers of a wide variety of food products (cereals, canned goods, fruits, vegetables in packages, etc.) in one of the large chain stores. And what is interesting: the overwhelming majority of such stickers contain the inscription “without GMOs” or “does not contain GMOs” - even on cans of canned corn and packages with so-called “soy meat” ... On some products there is no such inscription, which gives reason to think , either that “without GMOs - and a hedgehog, they say, is understandable”, or that GMOs definitely have them ...

Using the “granted” No. 86-FZ from 1996, the opportunity for “interested parties” to know about safety and certification of genetically modified products, I try to clarify this fact (fact of safety and certification) with the administration of the outlet. The choice fell on such a product as Mexican corn tortillas with chili pepper (as it appeared in Russian decoding, simply pasted on plastic wrap over foreign text), the shelf life of which is already 1 a year ... No, of course, the author of the material even under fear the death penalty would not have acquired this “long-playing” wonder product of a suspiciously red-orange color - just something suggested that it could not be just ordinary corn meal, ordinary egg powder, ordinary vegetable oil, salt and th pepper, as indicated on the label ...

Approximately in 15 minutes after the “request” a store director appeared (and this is a middle-aged lady), who showed a photocopy of the paper on the conclusion of an agreement with the company that supplies these same “flat cakes”, like some other products. On paper, as you can guess, there was no information on the composition of the products, but it was reported that the main office of the manufacturer is located in Mexico with the full address ... Indeed, the Mexican cakes ... And the director, apparently, somewhere deep down, barely holding back homeric laughter, advised to go directly to this company, stating that it is, they say, they are there for the products and are responsible, and we, they say, only sell ...

For some reason, I didn’t want to fly to Mexico in order to find out the composition of red flatbreads ... And it seemed that, apparently, the whole calculation was for such lazy Russian buyers like me. Another could have found the strength, found the means and rushed to the descendants of the Maya in order to clarify that no GMOs were really used in baking baked products, and therefore would become a regular customer of this product in his home town ... But, I dare to assume that 99% of Russian citizens are not going to seek such adventures, even if the company is located much closer to the American mainland. So it turns out that it seems possible to find out the detailed composition (including the method of obtaining this composition), but for this you need to go through a whole “quest”.

And with 1 in July, 2014, Russian government officials are going to allow registration of seeds obtained through GMOs in Russia. These seeds are intended, quote: "for release into the environment." Translating this into a human language, it turns out that from the middle of summer GMOs can be grown in Russia on an agricultural scale, and not only imported from abroad or grown purely for experimental laboratory purposes.

Does this mean that the Russian government finally believed in the safety of genetically modified products? Judging by how much the text in the resolution No. 839 from 23.09.2013, signed by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, is devoted to the need to monitor the situation and the Ministry of Health, and the Ministry of Education and Science, it seems that security may not be smooth.

Russian experts in the field of agriculture immediately after the actual permission from the government to grow GMOs, followed by replanting on Russian fields, sounded the alarm. The main reason for such anxiety is the possibility of over-pollination of conventional crops and crops, obtained with the replanting of GMO systems. To avoid this, you need to start active work on the delimitation of the landing area. But even if the qualitative separation of GMO fields and fields with natural crops takes place, this can lead to unfair competition. Farms that will focus on transgenic and GMO products, by definition, will be in more favorable conditions, since such products, as already mentioned, are excellent against both insects, fungi, and drought, and are significantly cheaper than ordinary vegetables and cereals . It turns out that transgenic wheat or transgenic corn may well displace ordinary wheat or corn. It is possible that there is nothing terrible for human health (in the end, selection was also treated with caution at the time), but the fact is that there are no official reports from scientists about the benefits or harm of GMOs and trans-GMOs. More precisely, there are many reports - unofficial - and, increasingly, in such reports, the role of GMOs and trans-GMOs, to put it mildly, is far from food perfection ...

Against this background, the proposal of representatives of the Federation Council to impose a complete ban on both importing and growing GMOs and transgenes in Russia for agricultural purposes looks very important. One of the authors of such a project is Senator Anton Belyakov, who declares that while there are no official results of experiments on rodents, it is foolish to conduct such “experiments” on humans. According to the senators, Russia has enormous opportunities to grow environmentally friendly, natural products without using gene and transgenic research. These possibilities must be realized in order to turn Russia into one of the world leaders in the production of such products.

In the near future, Russian lawmakers are going to consider the bill (and they obviously need to hurry, as 1 July is not far off), and if it is adopted, the government resolution on 23 September 2013 will automatically become invalid. This is said, by the way, in the State Duma. In the Lower House, the inter-factional group “Russian Sovereignty”, headed by Yevgeny Fedorov, is working on the draft law. The initiative of the two chambers of parliament is supported by many agricultural producers. For the initiative - and the Union of Organic Farming of Russia.

It is noteworthy that after the mentioned concerns of the Federation Council and the State Duma, Dmitry Medvedev spoke about the need to create a new legislative framework for GMOs and transgenes. What kind of legislative base is the prime minister now talking about, who acted with both hands for Russia's entry into the WTO, and who signed a permit document on the registration of GMO seeds in Russia six months ago, is an interesting question ...

At the moment, the main barrier for transgenes and the GMF is, in fact, exclusively local authorities. The governors of the 14 regions of the federation have already declared their regions free of GMOs. But the whole hitch is that it contradicts the principles of the WTO ... Oh, this WTO ... Maybe, even after a complete ban on GMOs and transgenic “sweets”, we (Russia) will finally be excluded from this organization ... This is a holiday ...
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  1. Metal
    Metal 25 March 2014 08: 13
    +77
    We have so much land not plowed! Let them eat their own HOMO. We need a program to support farmers and small businesses in agriculture. And it’s enough for itself, and it will be for export!
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 25 March 2014 09: 05
      +36
      We need a program to support farmers and small businesses in agriculture.


      It is not important. The main thing is to revive large-capacity agricultural production, as the most cost-effective.
      And this is something that until recently liberals of the Gaidar and Chubais — collective farms and state farms (state farms), processing agricultural industry, have been found guilty and eliminated grief.
      1. jjj
        jjj 25 March 2014 09: 38
        +14
        The main thing is not to interfere. Global food price increases have made the industry profitable. Large structures are already operating there and big money is working. See how it is organized in the south of Russia. Our products are competitive. We are simply not allowed into the markets of America and Europe. And the development of new markets is slow. If the latter improves, the empty land will be quickly reclaimed
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 25 March 2014 09: 58
          +19
          Quote: jjj
          Global food price increases have made the industry profitable.

          Right! But even in the same Europe, non-GMO products are valued much higher! Is it necessary to produce GMOs? Especially for the WTO? So "as we entered there, we will leave!" Or you can simply not inform how often the geyropa does! There will be questions "where?" So there is a lot of land - some with GMOs, some without! Buy what you want ...
          But seriously, then urgently need to eliminate this GMO! It does not have a positive effect on health! We need the following healthy generations !!!
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 25 March 2014 10: 19
            +6
            Quote: Egoza
            seriously, it is urgent that this GMO be eliminated!

            and grab the WTO ...
          2. shatu
            shatu 25 March 2014 12: 40
            +5
            Quote: Egoza
            It does not have a positive effect on health! We need the following healthy generations !!!

            Talking about the complete harmlessness of GMOs at the modern level of science is simply ridiculous.
            Maybe when a person masters the production of nanorobots, then it will be possible to talk about "safety". And then only a few years ago the human genome was "deciphered", and GMOs appeared even earlier - what kind of security can there be without knowing how the system as a whole works?

            I recommend listening to Starikov about GMOs (see from 14:20 p.m.), but you can fully watch - an interesting conversation.
            1. saber1357
              saber1357 26 March 2014 00: 25
              +3
              At the modern level of science, it is not only possible to speak of an EXTREME DANGER from GMOs, but is already being done. Look at one of the previous articles on the topic on VO, where one lady biologist told what happens to the rats who were fed this rubbish. Very picturesque - and THIS is with RATS, which, as you know, have a rather high survival potential, let's say. If you speak English, check out related research articles on Pubmed www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed "genetically modified" - 50000 links. In general, there is a lot of interesting things, even though GMO companies keep strict censorship.
              1. FRIGATE2
                FRIGATE2 26 March 2014 01: 01
                -3
                Quote: saber1357
                At the modern level of science, it is not only possible to speak of an EXTREME DANGER from GMOs, but is already being done. Look at one of the previous articles on the topic on VO, where one lady biologist told what happens to the rats who were fed this rubbish. Very picturesque - and THIS is with RATS, which, as you know, have a rather high survival potential, let's say. If you speak English, check out related research articles on Pubmed www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed "genetically modified" - 50000 links. In general, there is a lot of interesting things, even though GMO companies keep strict censorship.


                Why say something and support someone like hypocrites like Nikolai Starikov if you don’t know the topic? if you don’t understand what and how the hypocrite Starikov himself says.

                What are you studying in first grade? can you make your own objective analysis?
                Or is it directly necessary to listen to such hypocrites-Starikovs?

                Please first study the materiel.

                Since the information comes through the video, here is a video for you all

                1. pavlo
                  pavlo 26 March 2014 20: 32
                  +1
                  he and his own GAMNO !!!
          3. witch
            witch 26 March 2014 00: 18
            +2
            if in our country they introduce THIS HOMO, then in a couple of years we will infect it with GMOs. But it itself will degenerate clean products with time when polluted by insects. So there can be no question that half plants GMOs, the other will not be there in 5-6 years, everything will be one. so a complete ban is needed until there is accurate data on this homn.
        2. Patriot2012
          Patriot2012 25 March 2014 12: 24
          +19
          fuck us the markets of America and Europe, we ourselves purchase 60% of the food, even if first of all they are sent to the domestic market, and even if there is an excess then to the external one. You cannot find our apples in the store. In the Volgograd region there are Underground Gardens, and so in Volgograd, the price of their products is for some reason not lower than the imported, or even higher, although the manufacturer from Volgograd is 30-50km away. Why? The meat processing plant receives pork, cattle and other meat (environmentally friendly) from the population, but makes sausage (not a typo) from foreign buffalo and kenguryatina. Why? As soon as cleaning and sowing starts, the price of fuels and lubricants and spare parts climbs. Why? He harvested the grain, and only dealers who keep a specially low price had to give it to him, and he had to give it at a loss because various lenders immediately began to put it on him. We have too many PARASITES sitting on agriculture who do not do anything, but only sand the producer, so the price is similar to our products, it turns out that it is cheaper for the population to buy American shitty horseradish than our pure products. It is necessary to specifically deal with agriculture and deal with it. And now we sell, oil, gas and eat some cheap crap we’ll buy, and growing houses is expensive.
          1. Todos
            Todos 25 March 2014 13: 51
            -1
            Quote: Patriot2012
            cattle and other meat

            I'm afraid to ask what kind of "cat" it is. Whether chickens or rats laughing
            1. Luzhichanin
              Luzhichanin 25 March 2014 14: 21
              +5
              cattle - be educated while there is someone to share knowledge wink
              1. raf
                raf 25 March 2014 14: 49
                +4
                Quote: Luzhichanin
                educate while there is someone to share knowledge

                That's right! I can also throw it, for general development: MRS-small cattle (goats, sheep), MTF-dairy farm, STF-pig-breeding farm! smile
        3. Fess
          Fess 25 March 2014 14: 32
          0
          Honestly I have not heard this. If true, then just fine. I really liked the statement of one person: the WTO will either kill our economy or make it really strong. The WTO is a free market, or our products will become competitive or our manufacturers go broke. At its core, the WTO is a world war of producers of goods. Need to win))
    2. aleks
      aleks 25 March 2014 12: 46
      +1
      I think that there will be no holiday, and Medvedev will bring the country to a GMO pen, or maybe I'm wrong?
    3. vezunchik
      vezunchik 25 March 2014 13: 04
      +7
      you go through the countryside - as after civil. The devastation is complete! Land abandoned
    4. stroporez
      stroporez 25 March 2014 21: 31
      +1
      a feeling that their own successful farmers --- the authorities didn’t rest against the authorities ...........
  2. Sanyht
    Sanyht 25 March 2014 08: 14
    +21
    maybe you need to REMOVE ALL TAXES FROM PEASANTS, GIVE EACH BREEDER ON THE MACHINE, MAKE A LIFE IN URBAN CITIES (FACILITIES), SALARY-MORE THAN ??? and then let the comrades from Kenya eat GMOs, and the WTO sells surrogates to itself!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 25 March 2014 10: 01
      +19
      Quote: Sanyht
      REMOVE ALL TAXES FROM PEASANTS, GIVE EACH BREEDER ON THE MACHINE, MAKE A LIFE IN URBAN CITIES (FACILITIES), SALARY - ABOVE THAN ???

      And on this occasion - for a consultation with Lukashenko! Oh, it would be put in charge of the entire agricultural sector in the CU countries, and then in the new union! good There is a helicopter for flying around the fields !!!
    2. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 25 March 2014 14: 59
      0
      Quote: Sanyht
      maybe you need to REMOVE ALL TAXES FROM PEASANTS, GIVE EACH BREEDER ON THE MACHINE, MAKE A LIFE IN URBAN CITIES (FACILITIES), SALARY-MORE THAN ???


      If this is done at the expense of ordinary citizens, at the expense of those who work in factories and factories, then this is not correct. But if not at the expense of ordinary citizens, then for whose?
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 25 March 2014 21: 37
        +1
        Quote: rkkasa 81
        if not at the expense of ordinary citizens, then for whose?
        - Prokhorov, drake, Chubais, Alimov ...... continue?
  3. johnsnz
    johnsnz 25 March 2014 08: 14
    +6
    Eat your own GMO
  4. Name
    Name 25 March 2014 08: 15
    +9
    Hey in the EU, exclude RUSSIA from the WTO and eat your GMOs (along with the amers!).In general, what to expect, you must do yourself goodwill gesture" to the same G7-exit the WTO ... a. laughing
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 25 March 2014 14: 27
      +1
      Quote: name
      Hey in the EU, exclude RUSSIA from the WTO and eat your GMOs

      And then our kings, fathers, and boy-breadwinners are not independent in such matters. Although they have something. GMOs themselves do not eat.
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 25 March 2014 08: 15
    +8
    Oh, this WTO ...


    The WTO should work for us and not us for it ... this should become a fundamental principle in relations with similar organizations controlled by the United States.
  6. johnsnz
    johnsnz 25 March 2014 08: 19
    +11
    Khrukt with the "face" Power
    1. Tektor
      Tektor 25 March 2014 12: 04
      -1
      GMOs are different: harmless and harmful. If only the former are tested, the "scientists" will quickly declare the safety of GMOs. The former include GMO plants, which have been transplanted with genes from other plants. But if plants are transplanted with animal genes, then deviations are possible, especially if by animals we mean pathogenic bacteria or hormones ...
      1. Luzhichanin
        Luzhichanin 25 March 2014 19: 48
        0
        a priori, there are no GMOs that are harmless in nutrition. here in non-nutrition can be
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  7. Onotollah
    Onotollah 25 March 2014 08: 21
    +14
    Genetically modified foods are food for advanced users of Euro-democratic values.
    Normal people are better off not consuming them, otherwise you will become LGBT.
  8. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 25 March 2014 08: 22
    +2
    from the Don.
    GMO-homeless Geyeropy, WTO-US!
  9. ikken
    ikken 25 March 2014 08: 23
    +5
    Your mouth, yes honey would drink ...
    Unfortunately, (I hope so far) our money "today" prevails over the benefit "tomorrow". The process is underway, but how quickly is unknown.
  10. Boris55
    Boris55 25 March 2014 08: 27
    +19
    Quote: Volodin Alexey
    The purpose of this process is to create genetically modified foods (GMFs) from GMOs so that humanity growing in size does not experience a shortage of food.

    Lying. Land can feed three times the population.
    GMOs need:
    - to obtain superprofits;
    - to reduce the population.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 25 March 2014 11: 07
      +7
      Quote: Boris55
      Lying. Land can feed three times the population.

      Land can feed three hundred times the population. Oceans feed a trillion people without straining.
      Hunger from overpopulation is the same myth as the greenhouse effect of CO2, or, for example, Western democracy.
    2. shatu
      shatu 25 March 2014 12: 52
      +3
      I would also add the item "political and economic influence".
      GMO seed production belongs to 4 companies, guess which country? That's right, USA.
      And when you consider that GMOs in the best case yield 2 crops (directly GMO seeds and the next generation of seeds, and then horseradish, it does not grow) ...

      You can also remember Indian farmers, according to data for 2008, the purchase of GMO cotton seeds ended in suicide of 18000 people. I did not find updated data, probably this figure can be doubled. And all just because of this "cute" feature - the impossibility of GMO seeds of the 2nd and 3rd generations to produce crops. And these seeds cost a lot of money, all this led to the ruin of the farmers.

      http://progenes.livejournal.com/167536.html
      1. max702
        max702 25 March 2014 18: 56
        +2
        There is a good artistic book by Sergei Tarmashev "Heritage" there in an accessible form, based on real documents, described the prospect of introducing GMOs on our planet and the results of this .. If at least 10% of what was written is related to reality, then the "northern fox" has already come to us. the picture looms creepy.
  11. Flinky
    Flinky 25 March 2014 08: 28
    +6
    Farewell to the WTO! A flag in your hands and an armored train to meet you!
  12. Sledgehammer
    Sledgehammer 25 March 2014 08: 29
    +19
    You must enter everywhere Gost as in the USSR for everything. Let meet the requirements.
    And for agricultural products and food industry the principle "If you have not proved
    what is not harmful means not allowed. "Let them first prove that their
    the product is safe to use.
    1. Russkiy53
      Russkiy53 25 March 2014 12: 20
      +5
      For GOST-super +:))) !!! comrades have already lifted preservatives with paint everywhere to pour! For all this canoe-plant, as for heroin !!!
  13. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 25 March 2014 08: 29
    +4
    we are heavily dependent on natural gas and oil, but who knows, maybe the last thing will give rise to a desire to pay due attention to our own production and agriculture, and increase the standard of living in the village
    1. Starina_hank
      Starina_hank 25 March 2014 18: 19
      +2
      Unfortunately, our dependence on oil and gas so far generates even greater dependence on oil and gas! sad
  14. Sergg
    Sergg 25 March 2014 08: 31
    +9
    Within the framework of the WTO, it is necessary to ban the production of GMOs. Anyone who does not like can leave the WTO. laughing laughing

    Laughter, laughter, and Russia can produce a huge amount of environmentally friendly agricultural products. Is not it?
    1. m.viktoria
      m.viktoria 25 March 2014 11: 21
      +2
      I also agree with this, we should have everything our own because it was the best in the world! How it does not sound bonnal
    2. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 25 March 2014 15: 38
      +4
      Quote: Sergg
      Laughter, laughter, and Russia can produce a huge amount of environmentally friendly agricultural products. Is not it?


      Laugh laugh, and RUSSIA can produce a huge amount tractors, combines, trucks ? And make it so that drug addicts and bandits went to work in state farms? And create tolerable conditions for life and work in the countryside? Have you ever had to keep at least a couple of piglets, a dozen chickens and a small garden for hundreds of 2-3?
      My job here is not the easiest (miner), but to move to the village, live there and work ... only for good money, only if there are normal living conditions. Peasant labor - it is difficult and it is difficult to interest a person in it. Especially after 20 years of the destruction of work ethics.
      1. Luzhichanin
        Luzhichanin 25 March 2014 19: 51
        -4
        Quote: rkkasa 81
        Peasant labor - it is difficult and it is difficult to interest a person in it.
        You are mistaken, apparently you have been educated in the spirit of material values ​​and it is difficult for you to understand the true values.
        1. zarya
          zarya 25 March 2014 20: 30
          +1
          Quote: Luzhichanin
          You are mistaken, apparently you have been educated in the spirit of material values ​​and it is difficult for you to understand the true values.


          You cannot go far on spirituality alone. A material basis is vital.
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    3. stroporez
      stroporez 25 March 2014 21: 42
      0
      Quote: Sergg
      Russia can produce a huge amount of environmentally friendly agricultural products
      --- This is just what the human people do not need ...........
  15. SS68SS
    SS68SS 25 March 2014 08: 31
    +3
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    The WTO should work for us and not us for it ... this should become a fundamental principle in relations with similar organizations controlled by the United States.



    Agree to 100%
  16. ZU-23
    ZU-23 25 March 2014 08: 32
    +8
    In general, Medvedev once ordered the creation of a research base for GMOs, that is, to create a Russian GMO. So no matter how we like it, GMOs will be, since it is easier for our farmers to harvest 2 GMO crops than to grow one crop that may not be able to receive watering or be eaten by insects. For this, there are grandmothers in the markets that would take vegetables from them without GMOs.
    1. Luzhichanin
      Luzhichanin 25 March 2014 10: 40
      -1
      minus you, a Soviet schoolboy, possessing the basics of such a subject as biology is able to understand all the frailty and harm of GMOs. apparently you are an exception.
      1. rkka
        rkka 25 March 2014 11: 36
        +1
        Soviet schoolchildren, possessing the basics of such an object as biology, are able to understand all the frailty and harm of GMOs

        Tell us more about how GMO will hurt you
        1. Luzhichanin
          Luzhichanin 25 March 2014 14: 00
          -2
          Well, at least by the fact that the link of one gene with another gene, or even a group of genes ... and even cooler: a group of genes together with another group of genes - are responsible for one or another characteristic of the body. theory of complex systems - and the flag in your hands.
          how can it be useful that is created on obviously insufficient knowledge for the benefit, but enough for harming knowledge.

          they change one gene and don’t understand that this gene can influence in a group with another gene, with other genes, on some characteristics of the organism. not for nothing that folk wisdom says: everything in the world is connected! even at the genetic level!
          1. aquatic
            aquatic 25 March 2014 18: 04
            +1
            let's be more specific, but as far as GMOs are concerned, blah blah blah "theory of complex systems"

            let's be more specific, you ate corn) are you eating corn? who in the subject will now smile because corn is ALL modified) "natural species" unknown to science) (almost EVERYTHING you eat is modified in one way or another) and what exactly happened to you when you ate corn? yes, nothing terrible happened) neither with you nor with your ancestors who ate it)
            1. Luzhichanin
              Luzhichanin 25 March 2014 19: 43
              -2
              and here is the aquatic, I had no doubt that you would appear.
              I gave a specific thesis, what do you do instead of refuting it, take the conversation a little but in a different direction? to refute my thesis is too much? no doubt about it. and I'm not going to engage in demagogy with you
              1. aquatic
                aquatic 26 March 2014 08: 29
                0
                you are taking away) your thesis is "harmful-prohibit GMO" so?
                want to ban prove that it is harmful. you can’t prove you have the right to eat what you want, we’re not going to forbid anything))
                the obligation to prove the thesis lies with the one who puts forward it, you did not know? this is normal scientific practice, and demand a refutation of an unproven thesis) hmm smiled
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        aquatic 25 March 2014 17: 56
        +1
        minus you) you do not even have the rudiments of knowledge about biology and genetics) all the people in the subject know that GMO itself is neither harmful nor fraught.
        [quote = rkka] tell us more about how it hurts GMOs


        he probably grows grass on his head when he eats carrots) or tentacles like an octopus, well, or a third and fourth leg) adults also need fairy tales) so they believe in them
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  1. Luzhichanin
    Luzhichanin 25 March 2014 19: 46
    0
    Quote: aquatic
    All people in the subject know that GMO itself is neither harmful nor fraught.

    I'm not a topic, I'm not a person crying
    and again these liberalistic manners: well, refute me, well, refute. yes x ... you gave up on me. you need to convince us that GMOs are useful and prove it. and I will tell people the truth!
    1. aquatic
      aquatic 26 March 2014 08: 34
      -1
      :)) we talked))) I gave up) I have to convince something)) the arguments end, we start to be rude, right by the training manual for trolls)
  2. FRIGATE2
    FRIGATE2 26 March 2014 01: 18
    -1
    Quote: aquatic
    he probably grows grass on his head when he eats carrots) or tentacles like an octopus, well, or a third and fourth leg) adults also need fairy tales) so they believe in them

    Yes, here in general 95% of the site is not friends with objectivity and logic)))

    Here's how to explain something to them, if they live in their own world, from the outside look like patients (URApatriots)

    If GMOs supposedly can mutate a person, then why haven't the Slavs turned into pigs yet? A pig is a smart animal, and most of it is eaten in Russia, the USA, and Ukraine.
    so the inhabitants of these countries will not turn into pigs? (or already turned)

    according to this logic, it turns out, millions of years ago, various species / breeds of organisms accidentally connected and gave a more viable generation, from this point of view we are all living creatures of GMO mutants
  • rJIiOK
    rJIiOK 25 March 2014 08: 37
    +7
    "What kind of legislative framework is the prime minister now talking about, who spoke with both hands for Russia's entry into the WTO, and who signed a permitting document on the registration of GMO seeds in Russia six months ago - an interesting question ..."
    Typical liberal prostitute ..
  • Strashila
    Strashila 25 March 2014 08: 37
    +8
    Now Russia has a unique chance ... to get out of the WTO and start to steer in manual mode ... we work with these, and we work with these ... but on completely different conditions.
    Methods of influence on Russia now, there is a consequence of finding it in the WTO ... like where will it go.
    Now once again, once again we were convinced that the West is not our comrade and not even a business partner.
  • On the bayonet
    On the bayonet 25 March 2014 08: 38
    +3
    All right, to each his own. Genetically modified brains and pig food are good, and we, "orthodox" by birth, will continue to appreciate the natural gifts of Nature.
    1. Luzhichanin
      Luzhichanin 25 March 2014 10: 44
      +1
      That's right, NaShtyk, for such things ...
      Understanding how harmful GMOs are, I assess this threat as the first of the entire list of threats! The threat is worse than a radioactive infection. If due to radiation the body can still reproduce itself, then after GMO there is no generation.
  • Sultan
    Sultan 25 March 2014 08: 42
    +5
    oh, don't say! GMOs are deadly for consumption and, above all, for future generations ... Or rather, there may not be a future generation at all. GMOs are the eye-in-the-pyramid secret weapon to control the world's birth rate and population. Therefore, Nami's refusal from this Poison will be not only desirable, but vital. This is the strategic priority of the direction of the food program of Russia - the prevention of GMOs in our country !!!
  • mamont5
    mamont5 25 March 2014 08: 44
    +6
    Well, let the WTO eat its cakes with GMO itself, and we will bake ourselves from our own flour.
  • Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 25 March 2014 08: 49
    +2
    hmm ... and introduce it into the WTO and jump, dance .... but does the loss of awareness come?
  • diff
    diff 25 March 2014 08: 50
    +4
    This is the time when Yeltsin won (as is commonly believed) the election in the second round, but in fact, before the inauguration in August, 1996 completely disappeared from public policy due to poor health.

    They were celebrating then with new friendssowmi! In the meantime, they celebrate alone, the Americans slipped so many papers for signature, well, drunk somewhere and waved his little hand at it.
    Well, seriously, if the Americans are trying today to impose GMOs on food, then for starters, let them ask our People what we want our children and ourselves to feed. But Medvedev should think about the priorities of the state. When did he sign the permission in his pocket did the Americans pour gold?
    Scientists have calculated that our Earth under current climatic conditions is able to feed from 20 billion, people. And at more favorable to 45! SO WHY US GMO ?, what would die before!
  • Peacemaker
    Peacemaker 25 March 2014 08: 51
    +9
    In Russia, the golden land is Chernozem! GMO is dangerous! Plants do not give offspring! Every time you have to buy seeds, how do you know ... Etched beneficial insects disappear altogether, bees die out! Having switched to a non-GMO plant, pollen makes it barren ... This is an infection that will kill everything!
  • Energet1k_
    Energet1k_ 25 March 2014 09: 03
    +6
    The most ardent supporters of GMO products simply need to be fed the same GMO poison. You can start with Medvedev, let him be responsible for his actions. Not what of the people do experimental mice!
  • Tuzik
    Tuzik 25 March 2014 09: 08
    +7
    GMOs are the killing of humanity, the whole purpose of the ruling elite of the world, so that ordinary people can kill themselves, degenerate .. in the West it is very visible, the disappearance of Y chromosomes in men (infertility and polarity reversal (gays)), mental suppression, mental disorder . Indeed, before the advent of GMO products in the 60s, the profession of a psychiatrist was extremely not popular, now in the West there are more than lawyers.
    1. Leha leha
      Leha leha 25 March 2014 09: 12
      +4
      good That's exactly right, people livestock for them, there are too many of us in their opinion.
    2. erg
      erg 25 March 2014 15: 43
      +1
      But there is nothing that humanity has been using GMOs for several millennia. Do not tell me what color carrots are in nature or what does a wild lemon look like, for example?
  • Signaller
    Signaller 25 March 2014 09: 14
    +5
    Of course, the article is informative, but ...... Why bother with GMOs ???? Just get out of the WTO and that’s it. Not any GMOs and all this hysteria about this.
  • Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 25 March 2014 09: 35
    +10
    Several years ago, a scandal began, which was quickly hushed up. Namely: do you remember how there was a wave when constantly different groups like "hacked" the servers of the Pentagon, special services, etc. in the USA? Then many interesting documents appeared on the Internet, there were many scandals. So, among all these "pioneering" documents there was one very interesting one, concerning GMOs. It turns out that in the mid-90s and early 2000s, Americans conducted long-term studies of the effects of GMOs on humans. For this, two closed military settlements, towns with a population of 10-20 thousand people, were chosen somewhere in the desert. One in a supermarket sold only "pure" products, without GMOs. In another city, only GMO products were sold. The observations were carried out for 10 years. The result was simply terrifying - in the city where the population consumed products with GMOs, there was a monstrous surge of oncology, especially brain, vascular and heart diseases, obesity, etc. The number of crimes and suicides increased many times, but most importantly, the birth rate, population reproduction became aim for "zero" due to constant miscarriages, congenital deformities, mutations and infertility. This document caused a shock in the Internet community, but then everything was quickly hushed up on the grounds that it was allegedly a fake, fabricated by the "greens" and that, supposedly, GMOs are still indispensable due to the depletion and decrease of arable land.
    1. Russkiy53
      Russkiy53 25 March 2014 12: 38
      0
      !!! +++++ !!!
  • Letun
    Letun 25 March 2014 09: 35
    +6
    Interestingly, does Medved read the documents that he signs, or waved unawarely, with cheeky pouting? When will Putin give us a present by turning this tadpole?
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 25 March 2014 14: 32
      0
      Quote: Letun
      When will Putin give us a present by turning this tadpole?

      A gift in the form of a receiver is more likely. He will also share the rating with DAMA.
  • kocha 43
    kocha 43 25 March 2014 09: 41
    +4
    In the trash all gmo!
  • Stiletto
    Stiletto 25 March 2014 09: 43
    +5
    Yes, drive us out of your WTO as soon as possible! Punish us with this terrible sanction - we are honest, for this we will be very, very grateful!
  • Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 25 March 2014 09: 48
    +4
    Who drove you into this WTO? Who signed the WTO accession treaty and law? AND? Come on, come on, name the names please, otherwise it feels like aliens came and dragged poor Russia into the WTO by the scruff of the neck.
    1. shatu
      shatu 25 March 2014 13: 02
      0
      The WTO was needed in order to integrate more strongly into the global economy. The same sanctions are now booming in the west, as they have invested a lot in us.

      Without the WTO, today's sanctions would have hit us harder and, with the exception of energy, would have affected the West. Yes, we had to sacrifice a lot, but we also tied them closer to ourselves so that they could just throw us.
  • Amur
    Amur 25 March 2014 09: 59
    +2
    How the bourgeoisie in 2011 "lobbied" the national payment system,
    also now they are dragging laws on GMOs in the regions, they’ll just buy everyone, because they print money themselves.
    I do not believe in the honesty of the deputies ...
  • Letterksi
    Letterksi 25 March 2014 10: 00
    +5
    If GMO products are allowed to be sown in Russia, this will be a complete betrayal of the country's interests
  • silver169
    silver169 25 March 2014 10: 09
    +3
    The United States came up with this GMO - g .. but, well, they would eat it themselves, so no, they kindly slip it to the rest of the world. I do not know if Australia is a member of the WTO, but it is trying in every possible way to avoid saturating the market with American genetically modified products. Unfortunately, American GMO fruits, in particular apricots and peaches, can be seen more and more often in stores, they are always very beautiful in appearance and affordable, against the "elder brother" and "teacher of life". But it's impossible to eat them - they taste like cotton wool, no smell, no taste, no juiciness!
  • darksoul
    darksoul 25 March 2014 10: 18
    +6
    what a GMO, so much land, due to this and healthy, strong that from their or grandmother's beds burst all natural .... and chuckled at the forms in the form of an American enema. Yourselves gom .. but let them eat
  • Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 25 March 2014 10: 27
    +2
    Goodbye to the WTO, blue gave
    We saw such beauty on XYZ laughing
  • A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 25 March 2014 10: 29
    +2
    They went into the forest with their WTO and GMOs, even if they themselves ate their genomic modified organisms and made of their people, downs, homosexuals, lesbians and fagots. Russia does not need such happiness, we will live without Western delicacies. We will not die of hunger, not the twenty-first year. And we lived without the WTO and will continue to live. We will live guys!
  • Gagarin
    Gagarin 25 March 2014 10: 31
    +2
    Do not make noise comrades about the urgent exit of Russia from the WTO, the most complicated game is being played out, Russia will come out at the best moment, DO NOT Doubt!
  • Luzhichanin
    Luzhichanin 25 March 2014 10: 35
    +2
    Alex, thank you for the article. I hope that the development of events will also fully cover the events in Ukraine.
    Do you have any information on the results of the February meeting of the State Duma on the consideration of the ban on GMOs raised by Fedorov?
    1. Volodin
      25 March 2014 13: 01
      0
      All that I personally know about the work of the State Duma on this issue is that the Committee on Agrarian Policy discussed the introduction of a moratorium on GMOs in the Russian Federation, but further discussion of this issue, the case so far, judging by everything, does not go

      By the way, here is something "from the history" of the issue in the State Duma. The Health Protection Committee developed and proposed for consideration a bill banning the use of GMOs in baby food back in March 2010 (http://www.duma.gov.ru/news/273/60203/?sphrase_id=1220142). But 4 of the year has already passed, and the work here is progressing extremely difficult.
      1. Luzhichanin
        Luzhichanin 25 March 2014 14: 17
        0
        Alexei clearly thought so, that this is another fact in confirming that Fedorov, along with other figures, is used as a mechanism for using the wave of discontent. Alas, 4 years ago is a vivid confirmation. It seems that we are indignant, but things are still there. Democracy fucking.
  • Thomas
    Thomas 25 March 2014 11: 08
    +6
    GMOs, like the WTO, are essentially instruments of Western corporations aimed at maintaining control over human biomass. Why am I? Search the Internet for anyone wondering how, in a "democratic paradise" on Earth, the state is fighting its farmers. American farmers are arrested, forced to pay fines (by court order!) For ... overproduction and production of organic products. You have grown a ton of apples more in your garden - a fine, if you don't want to use GMO seeds - a fine or a trip to the police in handcuffs. I handed over the surplus milk to the store - a raid and with the destruction of the product. In our country, almost no one knows about this, but the farmers markets several times a year "coward" the police, organizing raids and destroying products. Corporations have long dictated their terms in the agricultural market.
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 25 March 2014 11: 12
    0
    Quote: Metall
    We have so much land not plowed! Let them eat their own HOMO. We need a program to support farmers and small businesses in agriculture. And it’s enough for itself, and it will be for export!

    I completely agree with the author of the comment, agriculture must be raised and then in Russia no GMOs will be unnecessary!
  • rkka
    rkka 25 March 2014 11: 40
    -1
    For GMO the future! Whatever shit is bred by people who have no idea about the basics of genetics.
    here is at least one of those present here can me specifically unsubscribe, why is GMO harmful?
    1. Thomas
      Thomas 25 March 2014 11: 56
      0
      Here, look at least this
      http://www.oagb.ru/research.php?txt_id=3756
    2. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 25 March 2014 12: 00
      +1
      Well, everything is relative. Let's say genetically modified poplars are less fluffy and more active in feeling air.
      and food is getting harder. Let's say you have an allergy to fish, and you got a tomato in the salad, which is modified by fish genes. The result is an allergic reaction.
      PS: This is me at my philistine level. hi
      1. rkka
        rkka 25 March 2014 12: 37
        0
        you +, this is basically possible
      2. Ustian
        Ustian 25 March 2014 14: 33
        0
        Let's say genetically modified poplars are less fluffy and more active in feeling air.
        It’s much easier to deal with poplars. They cut down an individual that gives fluff. Do you know that poplars also have sex separation? yes
      3. erg
        erg 25 March 2014 16: 12
        0
        First, there is no fish gene. Secondly, the allergy is not caused by the fish itself, but by a specific substance, one of many contained in the body of a specific breed of fish. But modifying with the help of a gene taken from fish and responsible for a specific trait, you do not transfer all the substances contained in the fish to the product that you are modifying. In other words, a tomato will remain a tomato, at both the gene and cellular levels. Only will acquire a new property and no more.
      4. aquatic
        aquatic 25 March 2014 18: 14
        -2
        there is no allergy to the gene of fish, it happens to a specific substance, it is perfectly visible in the laboratory like any toxins)
        you probably heard about allergies in some Americans who used some food containing GMOs, I note) cattle food, that's why they ate it most interesting, well, yes Americans))))
        Allergen was in this feed, it was known to both the manufacturer and the seller) it was not the GMA that was to blame, but the very specific soybean allergen. Once again, GMOs have nothing to do with it.
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    4. Thomas
      Thomas 25 March 2014 12: 23
      +1
      rkka
      Whatever shit is bred by people who have no idea about the basics of genetics.

      As I understand it, it’s you who breed srach here. And if you didn’t study in the Soviet school for two, you probably heard about Michurin and solved the problems of crossing fly-thrush flies. So with the basics of genetics, we are all right.
      1. erg
        erg 25 March 2014 16: 23
        -3
        So, after all, selection is a genetic modification. That is, the consolidation of useful mutations that have appeared in subsequent generations. A mutation is a change at the genetic level. Here you need to understand. If you planted a tree and it grew clumsy, different from what it should be in nature, then this is not a mutation, but just a deviation in development. But if this tree gives the same clumsy offspring, then here we are talking about a mutation. Breeding and modern methods of gene modification differ only in the way. It's like two different paths, one long, the other short, but the finish is the same.
        1. Russkiy53
          Russkiy53 25 March 2014 16: 42
          +1
          Gene modification is an ARTIFICIAL introduction of alien "pieces" of genes with the necessary properties ... mutation, a natural process, with
          a change in the NATIVE part of the gene! so intelligibly :)))? and another thing: genetically modified organisms do not have "subsequent generations" ... they are stupidly sterile!
          1. erg
            erg 25 March 2014 17: 53
            -2
            First, the genes themselves do not have any properties. The introduction of a new gene leads to the emergence of a new property. Secondly, a mutation is a persistent transformation of a genotype that can be inherited by the descendants of a given cell or organism under the influence of an external or internal environment. It doesn’t matter whether a mutation is artificially produced or under the influence of natural (naturally occurring) conditions, it is still a mutation. By the way, human influence can also be attributed to natural conditions, since man is part of nature. The absence of subsequent generations in genetically modified organisms is artificially created. The producers of such organisms were obliged to create them so that they themselves did not reproduce. Hence their high price. There are three main opponents of GMOs. The first is the manufacturers of pesticides and fertilizers. With the proliferation of GMOs, their multi-billion dollar business will simply collapse, since the main and perhaps the only direction of gene modification is to obtain organisms resistant to difficult conditions (seeds, for example wheat). The second - European farmers, who at the end of the 19th century lost the competition to their North American counterparts (USA, Canada). Now they all sit on subsidies of their states. That is, they get money from the state for free. A freebie is always sweet, who voluntarily refuse it. The third - sellers of agricultural products in Africa and Asia. If GMOs are cultivated on the African continent, Africa will be able to feed itself. Well, or at least there will be a strong competitor from some kind of more or less developed African country. How much dough will they lose? Having their strong lobby in international organizations for the control of agricultural products, they obliged to create genetically modified organisms sterile.
            1. Russkiy53
              Russkiy53 25 March 2014 18: 46
              -1
              The whole gene is not introduced, it is introduced - the part of the gene responsible for the appearance of a new, previously known property! And this part-belongs to a completely different organism! When mutating, the body’s own gene changes! But about the artificiality: they never thought why zinc is in pumpkin seeds -useful, and workers in the zinc production-full of oncology?
          2. aquatic
            aquatic 25 March 2014 18: 20
            -1
            This is where you found this from?)
            the fighters against GMO themselves shout louder than anyone: "there is a danger that GMO organisms, multiplying, will crush natural forms"))

            but about the artificial and native)
            well, whoever wants can of course hammer nails with a screwdriver) his right) but shouting must be prohibited by hammers because we always hammer nails with screwdrivers this is nonsense))
    5. Russkiy53
      Russkiy53 25 March 2014 12: 27
      -1
      That affects the function of reproduction!
      1. rkka
        rkka 25 March 2014 12: 36
        -1
        as ? more details please
        1. Luzhichanin
          Luzhichanin 25 March 2014 14: 29
          +1
          and you better prove that it does not affect, otherwise everything somehow rolls into one barrel
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        3. Russkiy53
          Russkiy53 25 March 2014 15: 28
          -1
          Read my comment below ...
        4. Russkiy53
          Russkiy53 25 March 2014 17: 13
          0
          Ep-that :)))! Koment monster Fat read :)))!
    6. 311ove
      311ove 25 March 2014 12: 57
      +2
      Quote: rkka
      here at least one of those present here can write me specifically, what is harmful GMOs?
      But to "specifically unsubscribe" we need volunteer testers. Will you go ?? And then we'll write it down ..... of course, if you still need it ....
    7. Ustian
      Ustian 25 March 2014 14: 29
      +4
      Quote: rkka
      For GMO the future! Whatever shit is bred by people who have no idea about the basics of genetics.
      here is at least one of those present here can me specifically unsubscribe, why is GMO harmful?

      Everything that is created by man is far from perfect. Do we have that there is little land, mineral fertilizers that would go on eating the Homna? It is harmful primarily because the effect on human genetics has not been studied. Descendants of Europeans will tell about the danger, if any. GMO exerts impact through 1-2 generations. There have already been experiments on rodents, in general, look for a video on the net! And even an elementary sense of self-preservation should whisper if not scream!
      1. erg
        erg 25 March 2014 16: 37
        -2
        Yes, there were experiments on rodents. Two of our biologists, or rather bioluha carried out. One fed rats with a diet of genetically modified potatoes, and noted many abnormalities and diseases. Only he forgot, or maybe he didn’t specifically take into account that the rats are omnivores, and they just need the variety in food that they have in nature, otherwise it is a disease. That is, if he fed rats with ordinary potatoes, then the result was the same. The other, or rather the other (there was an article about it in a military review), fed one group of rats normal food, the second - with the addition of soy, the third - with the addition of genetically modified soy. Only she also forgot that soy for rats is almost poison. Soy is generally a strong allergen, and not everyone can safely use it, and it is generally contraindicated for rats. By the way, the biologist kept silent about what happened to the second group of rats eating ordinary soy. Because it would immediately become clear that the matter is in the wrong sub-sided diet, and not in genetically modified foods.
        1. Ustian
          Ustian 25 March 2014 22: 50
          +1
          Quote: erg
          Two of our biologists, or rather bioluha carried out. One fed rats with a diet of genetically modified potatoes, and noted many abnormalities and diseases. Only he forgot, or maybe he didn’t specifically take into account that

          Never think that I am discouraging you. You have your own head behind your shoulders. Eat for health, eat for health !!!
        2. Russkiy53
          Russkiy53 26 March 2014 13: 13
          -1
          We all polls drink this soy in milk and eat sausage ... who has an allergy ???
  • Michael KG
    Michael KG 25 March 2014 12: 24
    +3
    Quote: rkka
    For GMO the future! Whatever shit is bred by people who have no idea about the basics of genetics.
    here is at least one of those present here can me specifically unsubscribe, why is GMO harmful?


    To begin with, let's conduct a small experiment for a period of 20-30 years on those who develop and apply these genetic technologies. Let them sow their seeds on their lands and plant modified crops, and after this period, we will conduct a comprehensive study on the basis of which and you can answer your question.
    But let them put experiments on their lands and their people.

    And my personal opinion, I am categorically against GMOs.
  • Russkiy53
    Russkiy53 25 March 2014 12: 26
    0
    In fact, our biologists conducted experiments on mice ... those rodents that were fed GMOs carried a weak, small offspring ... of this offspring, only ~ 30% were capable of reproduction; the third generation turned out to be completely barren ... a, As for Medvedev, there are ... some, so to say, doubts about his loyalty to the Motherland :) ...
    1. aquatic
      aquatic 25 March 2014 18: 24
      -2
      why the last name of these biologists was not named) name and the usual query in Yandex will show all the "scientific" experiment of this "former" scientist))
  • Russkiy53
    Russkiy53 25 March 2014 12: 29
    0
    Article +++ :)))! They raised the right questions!
  • Russkiy53
    Russkiy53 25 March 2014 12: 37
    -1
    GMOs themselves cannot be reproduced, so every time you have to buy seeds from the producer, since the sowing material in the crop is barren ... in India, there were many suicides among farmers who took out loans to purchase seeds, and the sowing material from the first crop -did not shoots ... as a result of the wave of bankruptcies, the wave of suicide ...
    1. Russkiy53
      Russkiy53 25 March 2014 16: 49
      0
      Anxiety-anxiety:))) !!! lobbyists of go ... food and birth control-normal boys minus :))) !!! yeah-ha :))) the wolf stole the rabbit :))) !!! everyone to supporters of go ... vno-food: what would you children-all this life ... vnom fed :)))! yes preservatives-more-more :)))) !!!
  • Ross
    Ross 25 March 2014 12: 42
    +3
    Quote: Metall
    We have so much land not plowed! Let them eat their own HOMO. We need a program to support farmers and small businesses in agriculture. And it’s enough for itself, and it will be for export!

    So these "sweets" are designed for us! The Western elite itself does not eat them, they only have bio food.
  • DimDimych
    DimDimych 25 March 2014 12: 47
    +5
    the role of GMOs and transHMOs, to put it mildly, is far from perfect food ...
  • capex1
    capex1 25 March 2014 13: 14
    +3
    I don’t understand at all, and why are we entering everywhere. They entered the WTO for 18 years; at the dawn of the 8s, we were accepted into the G90 for the sake of fun, why should we cancel visas from the EU. When we understand that nobody is waiting for us there with open arms, nobody needs us there. The largest country, but we ourselves must feed (for money, of course) the whole world with healthy products while stuffing our wallets tight without any GMO, WTO, EU, etc.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 25 March 2014 14: 36
      +2
      Quote: capex1
      I don’t understand at all, and why are we entering everywhere.

      If the stars are lit, then someone needs it. The list of billionaires thanks to joining all GMOs has expanded.