As a result of the explosion of a self-propelled howitzer in Kherson region, a crew member disappeared

During the exercise in a certain area of ​​the Kherson region during the change of firing position there was a fire of a self-propelled howitzer 2С19 of one of the military units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reports.

“The crew of the self-propelled howitzer tried to extinguish the fire on its own, but the measures taken by the servicemen did not produce results, the detonation of the ammunition occurred,” the department said.

Four crew members were urgently evacuated to a safe place. The search for another crew member continues.

As a result of the fire, three crew members of the combat vehicle received burns to their hands and faces and were taken to one of the district hospitals of the Kherson region, where they were provided with the necessary medical assistance. The state of health of servicemen is satisfactory.

A demining team is working at the scene to organize and carry out activities to search for ammunition scattered by the explosion and the subsequent evacuation of the vehicle.

Appointed official investigation.

Comments

[Tumbleweed]

Quote: svetlomor

*****, not the army.

The army may be normal, but if you give the best shooter a gun that has been lying on the street for 23 years in the rain and offer to shoot from it, then at best it will refuse, at worst it will happen the same as with a howitzer ...
So far, Ukraine's military equipment causes more damage to Ukraine itself than to the enemy. It's time to come to your senses and return the troops to the garrisons and put the equipment on hold, otherwise only small arms will remain ...

[Rus2012]

Quote: tumbleweed

The army may be normal, but if you give the best shooter a gun, which 23 of the year lay on the street

... but the shooter like 20 did not shoot. The result is predictable.

[user1212]

Weapons must be taken away from them until they were killed. Nobody has shot at them yet, but already losses. And not the first, after all, an emergency. Either the tanks are on fire, the plane crashes, now the self-propelled guns burned.

[Tersky]

Quote: user1212

Weapons must be taken from them until they get killed

What does Yarosh do ...

[advice]

But Yarosh is such a military master
Maser movie.

[Tersky]

Quote: sovety

But Yarosh is such a military master

I would not advise you to get into his hands to get them up to your elbows in blood, ours, Russian ... He is not a cinematographer, but in reality a "master of the back" ...

[Day 11]

Yarosh didn’t seem to have fought in Chechnya. But about Biloy ... Who knows why he received the Order of Ichkeria for the Honor of the Nation?

[sergei tulun]

... they simply, still did not receive a worthy rebuff .... a lot of mind must be beaten unarmed ...

[Lelek]

Akhmed Zakayev was also an actress. And also hands on the shoulders in our blood. For such cuts only a rope or a bullet.

[mamont5]

Quote: Tersky

I would not advise you to get into his hands to get them up to your elbows in blood, ours, Russian ... He is not a cinematographer, but in reality a "master of the back" ...

Being a soldier or executioner are two different things. Yarosh, it’s the executioner, such daredevils are usually surrounded by their own, and a little cuddle - they look where to hide.

[avg]

Quote: user1212

Weapons must be taken away from them until they were killed.

I can imagine how the geyropeytsy is writhing with mattresses when these banderlogs begin to talk about nuclear weapons.

[GRANATE-19]

I join, to take away, but I think that this is our Commander of the VALUE BLACK SEA FLEET! He said: "God forbid OUR side, even from a slingshot! Matches are not a toy, please understand me LITERALLY !!!" On the way, even the technique is afraid!

[smith7]

Many people here probably imagine how to handle weapons. And for those who have no idea I will say that weapons, in principle, are not a safe thing. These things are made to be harmful. In order not to harm yourself, you must follow a whole bunch of operating rules, including storage, use as directed, and routine maintenance. People who are illiterate and untrained have no moral right to even touch weapons and ammunition. What happened with the Ukrainian artillerymen could have happened in other armies. But the training of personnel in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not up to the mark ... It is possible that the guys were elementary unlucky, but they were "getting on their tongue," they screwed up the dollar ... they would have a head-handed one ... No need to humor at them, because they do not know that doing ...

[maximus]

You don’t need to mock at all, but you cannot give spoiled toys to children!

[kirieeleyson]

Quote: smith7

they don’t know what they are doing ...

And why such a belittling of their aspirations? They know, but only on pieces of paper, or as taught in the USSR yet. There is such a proverb: "Give the fool a glass glass, he will break the glass and cut his hands." So they cut it. well isn't it? or forgot about closing the bch damper ..... what kind of nonsense on the t-64, where is kars, fuck you ...

[Weniamin]

What happened with the Ukrainian artillery could happen in other armies.

As far as I remember, in Russia, too, not so long ago "Msta" burned.

[IGS]

In order not to harm yourself, you must comply with a whole bunch of operating rules

Good point. Behind every line of the Charter, rules and instructions is someone's blood or life. And neglecting them, you need to understand the consequences.

[platitsyn70]

Weapons must be taken away from them until they were killed. Nobody has shot at them yet, but already losses. And not the first, after all, an emergency. Either the tanks are on fire, the plane crashes, now the self-propelled guns burned.

it’s necessary to flee from such an army, when the unit commander tells the commander what to do, how to remove those miserable remnants of people from the Crimea, and in return endure as the charter says, the only way out is to flee from such an army.

[Berkut-UA]

In response, this "commander" said
that it was necessary to defend the base with weapons in hand.

That is, he directly in Zhfir called for the soldiers of Ukraine
shot at Russian soldiers, even if they live in neighboring houses and walked
in one class.
That is, this is a call to war on the part of the Ukrainian generals.

[Day 11]

Yes, they themselves do not know what to do in this situation. Note, he did not give a direct order to open fire, “act according to the situation.” That's it, the Ukrainian army is no longer in fact!

[evgenii67]

I hope the soldier did not die, but managed to seabass.

[smel]

I hope the soldier did not die, but managed to seabass
On 2с19 m 2с3 from the calculation, there is always one crew member - a hostage. This is such a design. If you look at these self-propelled guns that were transported by trailers and there are videos in YouTube, you can see their condition. It burned out on the march or when moving. And if they start to shoot, the situation will worsen. And they will try in automatic mode - then generally tryndets

[Tron]

Quote: user1212

Weapons must be taken away from them until they were killed.

Yeah, with a complicated technique they broke off. Now they began to master that simpler.

[sergei tulun]

... then the missiles are flying the wrong way ...

[Doktor-2]

Pancake. like in that movie with black humor ("Slaughter Holidays") ... ... When the heroes bought themselves a country house on the shore of the lake - they swim, relax, put things in order, and then ... the whole plot ". ...

[de klermon]

Tenyukh! You bastard! By deceiving people were lured into "gatherings", they were given out rusty junk, which can only kill the one who exploits it, people are now not allowed out of the units, they are crushed in this scrap metal: only what was published: an airplane, 5 tanks, a self-propelled gun ... It's still good that their ships were taken away, or else someone was drowned! Guys from the Zbroyni forces of Ukraine, do you remember how in a Soviet song? "Take your greatcoat, let's go home! .." Save your lives and health not from ghostly "external enemies", but from such a command, which has already betrayed you five times, the constitution has not been defended, the "supreme legal" and so on ... somewhere! You, who was thrown either in the field, or at railway stations, or in blocked garrisons, where caperangs sleep on tables under an overcoat, remember that you have sworn allegiance to the PEOPLE, and not to the state, which no longer exists and which has already been betrayed by everyone except you!
PS Guys, for you, everything should have been obvious for a long time: everything that they do with your hands will expose how your crimes are !!!

[maximus]

Quote: de Klermon

Tenyukh! You bastard! By deceiving people were lured into "gatherings", they were given out rusty junk, which can only kill the one who exploits it, people are now not allowed out of the units, they are crushed in this scrap metal: only what was published: an airplane, 5 tanks, a self-propelled gun ... It's still good that their ships were taken away, or else someone was drowned! Guys from the Zbroyni forces of Ukraine, do you remember how in a Soviet song? "Take your greatcoat, let's go home! .." Save your lives and health not from ghostly "external enemies", but from such a command, which has already betrayed you five times, the constitution has not been defended, the "supreme legal" and so on ... somewhere! You, who was thrown either in the field, or at railway stations, or in blocked garrisons, where caperangs sleep on tables under an overcoat, remember that you have sworn allegiance to the PEOPLE, and not to the state, which no longer exists and which has already been betrayed by everyone except you!
PS Guys, for you, everything should have been obvious for a long time: everything that they do with your hands will expose how your crimes are !!!

And the extreme ones, even before the geyroppa will be you!

[120352]

If the gunner is from NATO, then the shooter, the one who pulls the rope on command, is not so important. If only pulled on time.

[vagabond55]

And more than once they pulled at those who are against their illegal power. Everything is just beginning, and a lot of blood is ahead.

[jjj]

And after all, for sure there is still something unscrewed, unscrewed, sold. The Do Sebe system in all its splendor

[Shoma-1970]

SORRY THAT IS NOT A CHAIN ​​REACTION!

[mad]

It is strange that there is still no hysteria, that these are sabotage of damned mo-ska-lei or Putin personally. From yesterday’s teleconference between the commander of the airborne forces in the Crimea - I.O. Minister of Defense is striking an attempt to shift responsibility for their own failures to at least someone, the main thing is not to answer for yourself.

[120352]

This is their national style. If it isn’t m-os-k-al, then a neighbor or a boss.

[sv68]

don’t tell them. otherwise they’ll find Moscow’s hand

[I read the news]

They say so plain text.
All responsibility for the situation in the country is personally on ... (Yanukovych, Putin, Perepredniki, ...)

[a52333]

Quote: tumbleweed

23 of the year lay on the street in the rain and offered to shoot from it, then at best it will refuse

She didn’t, in general, hid the fat there (in the muzzle), but they forgot to pull it out before firing.

[120352]

And with grease should shoot well!

[16112014nk]

Quiet Ukrainian night, but the fat must be hidden.

[16112014nk]

Quiet Ukrainian night, but the fat must be hidden.

[a52333]

So yes, but there is also a cebulya and a quarter of a vodka .....

[Berkut-UA]

class
completely forgot what is possible

[tolancop]

Sherman from the United States came to the war with viskar and a snack hidden in the trunks. A gift from American workers to Soviet tankmen.

[vagabond55]

Our tankers called the Shermans "coffins" and swore from the heart, but they thanked for the whiskey, sniffed by a sleeve or a swine ...

[maximus]

Quote: a52333

Quote: tumbleweed

23 of the year lay on the street in the rain and offered to shoot from it, then at best it will refuse

She didn’t, in general, hid the fat there (in the muzzle), but they forgot to pull it out before firing.

Why do you issue secret strategic reserves!

[Tumbleweed]

Hello Vit
If these brains just lay there, then figs with them would be only a threat to the owner of the brains, but here for 23 years these brains were intensely "had" (well, everyone understood ) and the media and at school, that’s what we now see on Ukrainian sites has grown:
Mosko .. u on gilyaku
Moska..y on knives
Moscow is to blame for everything ..
I don’t know, I’m reading the forum, communicating with people, watching the Russian media, I have never listened to the calls “kill h..a”, although the contingent of communication is extensive. The most "terrible" I saw last week, when I was "dragging out" with a friend, the latter told the guards to bring women from Western Ukraine from the "point" and said: "Lech, now we will take revenge on them" ...

[Tersky]

Quote: tumbleweed

I don’t know, I’m reading the forum, communicating with people, watching the Russian media, I have never listened to the calls “kill h..a”, although the contingent of communication is extensive.

This is precisely the gulf between our consciousness and the consciousness of oligophenes from maydaun. Although what kind of de @ il’s consciousness can there be if the brain is completely absent .

[Cherdak]

Quote: tumbleweed

Army can and normal

[120352]

Yes, and small arms trunks wear out ...

[zanoza]

Here is their main "weapon" now. Here, it seems, there were no losses

[Koresh]

They even dug the ditch in the wrong direction)) Land towards Russia))

[Egoza]

Quote: Koresh

They even dug the ditch in the wrong direction)) Land towards Russia))

Why is this wrong? On this side they, with the whole Rada, will be thrown into the ditch, and on the Russian side they will be buried with the ground ...

[vagabond55]

It will not be so easy to throw them into the ditch. Bandera
They will fight fiercely. Their ranks are growing (the media are silent about this) also due to experienced mercenaries from hot spots that calmly flock to Kiev through the countries of Pibaltika, Poland and
etc. Kiev will be turned into a fortified area and will stand to death. Remember how our troops took Grozny at the time ... That's it, my friend ... Not everything we will have in chocolate, as in Crimea ...

[alexng]

You do not take into account one small detail, the residents of the Southeast will water them, and not support them. So these creatures will be under crossfire and they understand this very well. Now there is a regular show, for those who live on the right bank of the Dnieper, and in the east they have a small intestine, because their population does not support it at all.

[kocclissi]

This is a hint: we dug, and you dig in!

[Penzyac]

Quote: Koresh

They even dug the ditch in the wrong direction)) Land towards Russia))

Sabotage is also a weapon.

[GRANATE-19]

Any sapper will say that this is a waste: money, fuel and equipment resource !!! Martyshkin labor!

[Koresh]

There is somehow an ambiguous subtext: the land towards Russia)) Take it I do not want to be called

[Penzyac]

Quote: GRANATE-19

Any sapper will say that this is a waste: money, fuel and equipment resource !!! Martyshkin labor!

Monkey labor, made laugh. So in Kiev, the monkey and sits, like, working.

[novobranets]

Two charges of TNT and the soil will fall into place from where it was taken out. Every day, all the wonders and wonders.

[cerko]

why spend if you can just let the bulldozer go forward

[novobranets]

You have to find a bulldozer somewhere else, tanks are not all with dumps, but TNT or "plasticine" is always at hand.

[maximus]

No, but we will jump into it and dig in it)

[predator.3]

What are there W.-4m. depth 2,5 of force width 1,5-2 m. depth-1,2-1,5 m.

[Tersky]

Quote: predator.3

What are there W.-4m. depth 2,5 of force width 1,5-2 m. depth-1,2-1,5 m.

Small size ? So this is a cattle cemetery, for those who ride and not ..... eh ... enough for them ...

[novobranets]

The money saved on a solarium will go to deepening your personal pocket.

[Nekarmadlen]

Quote: novobranets

The money saved on a solarium will go to deepening your personal pocket.

No, he did not save them, laundered them, so now it is useless to arrest and release him on bail. He and his brother spent everything on a ditch! Everything that was acquired by overwork!

[novobranets]

Quote: Nekarmadlen

He and his brother spent everything on a ditch!

Then they will bury him there, many more fascists will enter there.

[builder]

"Great Ukrainian ditch"

[Penzyac]

Quote: stroitel

"Great Ukrainian ditch"

It must be entered in the Guinness Book of Records.

[novobranets]

Quote: PENZYAC

It must be entered in the Guinness Book of Records

Not, in the list of wonders of the world, protected by UNESCO. Taj Mahal, Great Wall of China, and Great Ukrainian Ditch.

[Day 11]

Tryndets, it is in the 21st century that they want to stop with a ditch? How many babos did it take to dig this "barrier"? How many T-64s could be reanimated with this money? The level of idiocy is simply off scale!

[maximus]

This is not for war, fishing worms dug up))

[jjj]

Quote: zanoza

Here is their main "weapon" now. Here, it seems, there were no losses

In the reports of the Donetsk governor, this ditch looks like 6 meters wide, 4 in depth and with an embankment another 2 meters. Comparing with the picture, you can quite accurately determine the percentage of posts in Ukraine. This is more than stealing on our roads at times

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: jjj

In the reports of the Donetsk governor, this ditch looks like 6 meters wide, 4 in depth and with an embankment another 2 meters. Comparing with the picture, you can quite accurately determine the percentage of posts in Ukraine. This is more than stealing on our roads at times

It looks a lot like preparing a gas pipeline to the Crimea, bypassing nEzalEzhnoy ...

[Fanat1984]

Well, yes, do not worry about the hungry people of the country? As if this trench tanks would stop ...

Or maybe they are digging a trench for pipes (after all, they said that they were from the Sea of ​​Azov), they will pump water out of the Sea of ​​Azov, no matter how they got it ...

[Penzyac]

Quote: 120352

Yes, and small arms trunks wear out ...

If you shoot from it, then it wears out, and if you do not shoot, it rusts ...

[mamont5]

Quote: 120352

Yes, and small arms trunks wear out ...

Nah, how can they keep them 23, how they smeared them in Soviet times, put them in a rack, and didn’t touch them so that nothing would go wrong. And everything was in order. And now they’ve taken it right away ...

[olegff68]

Russia has a secret weapon, for how else can you explain:

Artillerymen of the Western Military District entered the training grounds.

And right away:

The first Ukrainian tanks destroyed in Krivoy Rosh

As a result of the howitzer explosion in the Kherson region ...

in Nikolaev BMP blew up

[0255]

Quote: olegff68

Russia has a secret weapon, for how else can you explain:

Artillerymen of the Western Military District entered the training grounds.

And right away:

The first Ukrainian tanks destroyed in Krivoy Rosh

As a result of the howitzer explosion in the Kherson region ...

in Nikolaev BMP blew up

I think that at least 99,9% of West Ukrainian neo-fascists already consider these accidents with their technique m_skalskoy sabotage

[novobranets]

Quote: 0255

Russia has a secret weapon, for how else can you explain:
Artillerymen of the Western Military District entered the training grounds.

And right away:
The first Ukrainian tanks destroyed in Krivoy Rosh

As a result of the howitzer explosion in the Kherson region ...

in Nikolaev BMP blew up

And what will happen if they also shoot.

[I read the news]

The bomber fell.

[zzz]

Dear forum users! Just listened to D. Kiselyov, he told an interesting story. Of course, I didn’t know her (her age was not the same) ... But THIS IS NEEDED TO SEE AND KNOW AND BE Proud !!!!

http://video.yandex.ru/users/vid4801/view/301/

[kocclissi]

[media = http: //video.yandex.ua/users/vid4801/view/301/? ncrnd = 8646]This one seems to be more complete!

[zzz]

kocclissi - thanks. I did not guess in YouTube to search!

I looked right several times !!!!

[poplar]

Oh, they’d better dance gopak ...

[Nick]

The guys are sorry. By order of the impostors, the troops then raised ...

[super-vitek]

If the best shooter is given a gun that has been lying in the rain for 23 years, he will first CHECK ITS TECHNICAL CONDITION, and only after inspection will he decide to shoot or not, because he is, in theory, a professional !!! And in the "army" there are apparently no such ones left! !!! I sympathize with the victims !!!

[Max otto]

Look, it turns out that they have not fought yet, and losses are everywhere. It is enough for Russia to simply cross the border, well, go deeper by 1 km, half of their army will be immediately destroyed, and the rest will have to scatter in panic, because in the minority it makes no sense to fight.

[vagabond55]

To fight against Russia and the pro-Russian East and South of Ukraine will not be Ukrainian troops but Bandera armed formations.
by terrorist attacks, by the method of partisan war. They have a lot of weapons, experienced instructors, a lot of mercenaries from hot spots. Their ranks are growing. They will do anything, for example, they will poison the sources of drinking water, food. It was not for nothing that even the pros from the famous NKVD fought with " forest brothers "until 1955 (!). It means that you should not underestimate the capabilities of the neo-Nazi armed formations of the illegitimate government in Kiev ...

[alexng]

In the Southeast, you will not be much of a partisan to feed them, and at the first outing for grubs they will be torn into rags, and no partisan training will help. Partisan war is possible only with the support of the population. So let the partisans in Western Ukraine, where nafig no one needs. Let the heroes be distributed and appropriated to each other there.

[Vittt]

Tumbleweed quote: "The army may be normal, but if the best shooter is given a gun that has been lying on the street in the rain for 23 years ..."

Seriously? Can the army be normal? Jump off the pills. Even their secretary of defense says it's crazy !!!
The guys who serve are sorry. Half of this army does not know how to cheat on this pseudo-Ukrainian army. A howitzer - to hell with her, with this howitzer, if only the kid remained alive!

[IGS]

You know, I don’t want to think about the bad, I hope that the boy just got scared and skerks somewhere, the main thing is not to be injured and not burned, otherwise there would be infection without doctors.

[Vi_RUS]

Follow Syria, not Ukraine, everything is already clear with Ukraine, but in Syria the war begins!

[Tiamat2702]

Quote: Vi_RUS

Follow Syria, not Ukraine, everything is already clear with Ukraine, but in Syria the war begins!

Guy, it looks like you slept for three years))))

[Vi_RUS]

Follow Syria and not Ukraine, everything is clear with Ukraine, but in Syria the war begins!

[VNP1958PVN]

Rifle is already stolen

[dmitrich]

stood on the ground all were alive, the plane was killed, now self-propelled.

[sergei tulun]

... the best shooter, before shooting, the gun will clean and bring to normal condition ...

[mamont5]

He said already, do not touch the equipment. It stands and let it stand. Life threatening.

[ziqzaq]

Quote: mamont5

He said already, do not touch the equipment. It stands and let it stand. Life threatening.

A few more weeks will have to change the plan of the General Staff of Russia to force Ukraine to peace, change military units to units of the Ministry of Emergencies ...

[vlum]

It may well be that there is a similar scenario (for the Ministry of Emergencies) - dangerous objects on the territory of Ukraine.

ps Already flashed messages not only about the threats of deliberate provocations, but also about some unsuccessful attempt to change fuel cartridges at the South Ukrainian nuclear power plant.

[Dikson]

Unloading and loading fuel assemblies is actually a regular operation for NPP personnel ... I don’t think that amateurs work at Ukrainian NPPs ...

[tolancop]

Infa slipped about an attempt a year or two ago to refuel nuclear power plants with American fuel. To put it mildly, it did not work out.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: tolancop

Infa slipped about an attempt a year or two ago to refuel nuclear power plants with American fuel. To put it mildly, it did not work out.

The Hungarians tried ... not so long ago. Then the Germans were called to correct what they had done. Then it dawned on - they called our specialists reluctantly. TVEL is not a toy ...

[GRANATE-19]

Quote: vlum

It may well be that there is a similar scenario (for the Ministry of Emergencies) - dangerous objects on the territory of Ukraine.

ps Already flashed messages not only about the threats of deliberate provocations, but also about some unsuccessful attempt to change fuel cartridges at the South Ukrainian nuclear power plant.

The most important thing is not to bring military equipment to nuclear power plants and other similar facilities! Otherwise, everything is Khan!

[Tersky]

Quote: vlum

nd, but also about some unsuccessful attempt to change fuel cartridges at the South Ukrainian NPP.

Problems with fuel at the YuU NPP arose back in 2012. Yusch in 2005. wanted to reduce dependence on the purchase of nuclear fuel in Russia and entered into a supply contract with the US company Westinghouse, which supplies its products in an experiment called "In spite of Russia, we will arrange a new Chernobyl for ourselves", they are under examination, their mother ...

[Hey]

Contact with this company is renewed.

[Day 11]

Why do you always duplicate your posts? As for Ukrainian nuclear power plants, everything is in western Ukraine. Other people cover them there

[vagabond55]

Bandera’s can arrange a second Chernobyl at one of Ukraine’s nuclear power plants. In full. Why not? Let’s do it at the time when they realize that their authorities are coming to an end. Weapon of retaliation. I want to believe that all the most important facilities on the territory of South and East Ukraine is already under the control of our special forces. Indeed, as you have noticed, Putin is always ahead of the curve ...

[andrewvlg]

Quote: ziqzaq

change military units to units of the Ministry of Emergencies

And the Ministry of Emergencies units to strengthen 1 million orderlies, led by psychiatrists, a smaller outfit can not do.

[vagabond55]

The Russian special forces, which recently captured the Ukrainian military unit in Belbek, are already active in Ukraine. FSB and GRU agents have flooded Ukraine. Rally in confrontation with neo-Nazi armed forces will be made on secret special operations on a large scale. The Russian army will be introduced in an emergency. After Afghanistan our special forces did not have the opportunity to practice in combat conditions. Large-scale. It's time. USA and other NATO countries are intensively using special forces around the world. And what are we worse?

[schizophrenic]

In the beginning, it is necessary to drive the equipment into the capital, but there is no money. In general, soldiers will be afraid to sit down for such equipment and combat efficiency will decrease.

[I do not care]

Quote: schizophrenic

In the beginning, it is necessary to drive the equipment into the capital, but there is no money. In general, soldiers will be afraid to sit down for such equipment and combat efficiency will decrease.

[GRANATE-19]

Quote: schizophrenic

In the beginning, it is necessary to drive the equipment into the capital, but there is no money. In general, soldiers will be afraid to sit down for such equipment and combat efficiency will decrease.

Her in general is not!

[Combitor]

Quote: schizophrenic

In the beginning, it is necessary to drive the equipment into the capital, but there is no money.

Well, with the money "maydanutye" seem to have solved the problem. Recently I "went" to the site Censor.NET (though already as a visitor. "Banned" after the third comment), so there they reported an interesting know-how of the Kiev "authorities":
<21.03.14 13:27
Over the past 9 hours, another XNUMX million hryvnias have been received as part of the “Support the Ukrainian Army” campaign.
As of 12.00:21 on March 33, more than XNUMX million hryvnias from legal entities and individuals as assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already arrived to the accounts of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine as part of the “Support the Ukrainian Army” campaign.
Of this amount, 31 million 483 thousand hryvnias - money transfers to material and technical, the rest - to medical support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the press service of the Ministry of Defense reports, reports Censor.NET.
In particular, with the help of calls to a single mobile number "565" in support of the Ukrainian army 7 million 390 thousand hryvnia were transferred (all - for the logistics of the Ukrainian Armed Forces)>.

[Fanat1984]

POZOOOOOOOOOOOR !!! And then what will happen? TAKE A MOUTH OF COMMUNICATORS AND FEED, AND THERE THERE IS NOTHING ... POSOOOR !!!

[Siberian19]

Ukrainian air force!

[s1н7т]

So most of them studied in the USSR, no? How to use K-36 everyone knows

[ODERVIT]

Yes, K-36 can and can, but K-36DM may not be able to

[ziqzaq]

Quote: mamont5

He said already, do not touch the equipment. It stands and let it stand. Life threatening.

Urgent message:
"During the change of the firing position from the commander of the self-propelled guns received a command - Who does not jump - ...deleted by moderator Apollo

[Apollo]

Quote: ziqzaq

Who does not ride one -

By the way, no one has canceled the VO rules. Could be limited to ellipsis.

[Tumbleweed]

Quote: Apollon

. Could be limited to ellipsis.

And then the comment would look like this
.. ..... ..... ....... ....... .. ......... ... .......... ...... - ..... ...... ... -.......deleted by moderator Apollo
Apollo, everything is correct, banter is not addressed to you, but to the rules of the site, moderators need to go through an internship at the Censor ... there all comments would have disappeared on the site

[Apollo]

Quote: tumbleweed

And then the comment would look like this

Now I will give you a warning and it will not be funny anymore. I hope you understand me. The joke is absolutely inappropriate.

[Tumbleweed]

Quote: Apollon

Now I will give you a warning

This is chantage? Which paragraph of the rules did I break? You can find a reason for warnings in my other comments ...

Quote: Apollon

and it won't be funny anymore

Well, my real life is separated from the virtual one, and therefore, if I’m exploding in a Sony PlayStation in a helicopter, then I don’t care, if on some website they put me out or get banned, it’s unpleasant for me, but it doesn’t do any harm ...

Quote: Apollon

.I hope you understand me

Yes, I'm generally understandable in life

Quote: Apollon

The joke is absolutely inappropriate.

And it seems to me that a joke is always appropriate if it is not pronounced at a funeral ... There seems to be no funeral (from our side), and therefore "buried mother-in-law broke 3 bayans" does not work here

Threat Ready to accept warning - earned Someone moderates, someone comments

[Combitor]

Quote: tumbleweed

there on the site all comments would disappear

I "talked" a little on the Censor. There, almost all commentators have such a "maidan" in their heads in the minds of cockroaches, Mom, do not worry!
Our moderator is an angel. If I had read what the "censor's" moderator was missing, I would have swallowed the "mouse".

[Day 11]

I agree with you. On the Censor, the level of Russophobia is just going through the roof. It’s better to read it on the Correspondent.

[Combitor]

Quote: Den 11

On the Censor, the level of Russophobia is just off scale.

The level of Russophobia is not only "off scale" there. There lies have crossed all conceivable limits. Even comparing what the Western media (the same "Radio Liberty") and Censor.NET write about the same event, it is simply surprising how you can lie like that. And on the Censor, apparently, "hangs" mainly young people.
Our answer to the "Censor":

[Tumbleweed]

Quote: Kombitor

I "talked" a little on the Censor. There, almost all commentators have cockroaches in their heads

Quote: Den 11

I agree with you. On the Censor, the level of Russophobia is just going through the roof.

And now I have printed neutral comments on this site, with only one wish that there was no Azerbaijani moderator on the Russian site and immediately deleted the warnings and comments ...
Freedom of speech on the Russian website under the whip of Azerba ... and ...

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: tumbleweed

Freedom of speech on the Russian website under the whip of Azerba ... and ...

My minus ...

[sv68]

the old army commandment-weapon loves caress-cleaning and lubrication, not for the Ukrainian army. alas

[Tumbleweed]

Quote: sv68

the old army commandment-weapon loves caress-cleaning and lubrication, not for the Ukrainian army. alas

But let's remember the Russian army of the 90s, when the officers were thinking about how to feed the family, and not about how to educate and unite the unit, the soldiers were begging from the fences, the equipment was sold right and left ... Therefore, to the one who now counts behind the clave himself a great strategist and begins to tune the microscope to the Ukrainian army, it is worth thinking, but could he, half-starved, abandoned by the command, on an old and dilapidated equipment, portray a defender, don't understand why? Soldiers, sailors and officers of the Ukrainian army are not guilty of anything, they are trying to be used as hostages and "meat" in the game of politicians !!! Thanks to the prudence of the Ukrainian officers for understanding the situation !!! Even a 90-year ship, which is docked and unable to move, can do business ... And I think they are all with ammunition ...

[I do not care]

part of the article



The Naval Radio Engineering Special Purpose Unit of the Ukrainian Navy (electronic reconnaissance, Sevastopol) ceased to exist. The deputy commander of the detachment, captain of the second rank, Andrey Ivanichenko, announced this on his Facebook. "Part of it was captured and destroyed. We must pay tribute to our invaders - about 100 special forces, armed with weapons that I saw only in computer games: SVD," elephant breakers ", grenade launchers, machine guns with tricky things in the form of collimator and optical sights," Fly " And all this for my 30 automatic rifles with 25 rounds for each. Everything was cultural, in a secular way: they poked machine guns in the nose, got nervous together, hit the ground in an American manner, with instant entrenchment. ! Everything is cultural. A little shit, they gave 30 minutes to take out the uniform, hung up the tricolor. The electronic intelligence center of the Ukrainian Navy ceased to exist. Hey, who needs a janitor with 3 higher educations?) There are no signals from the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, "wrote the Ukrainian officer
Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-141728.html

[UREC]

I think such a "janitor" is suitable for the Russian army if the Ukrainian does not need it!

[tolancop]

Strange ammunition: 25 rounds per barrel. Even the whole store is not recruited. IMHO, another indicator of the state of the APU.

[Gamdlislyam]

Quote: tolancop

Strange ammunition: 25 rounds per barrel.

He served in the Soviet border troops in Soviet times. According to the instructions, stores were equipped with 25 rounds. Apparently, in the special forces detachment of the Ukrainian Navy (electronic intelligence, Sevastopol) there were instructions and instructions from the time of the USSR.

[vagabond55]

You say it right. Here Bandera will arrange a couple of terrorist attacks, and some gearworms will pull down ...

[awg75]

a grenade in the hands of a monkey is scary, first of all, for a monkey

[Egoza]

Quote: awg75

a grenade in the hands of a monkey is scary, first of all, for a monkey

especially if the monkey from the Maidan !!!
Although I do not exclude that the "experts" will come to the conclusion that they were Putin's saboteurs !!!!

[Tumbleweed]

Quote: Egoza

Although I do not exclude that the "experts" will come to the conclusion that they were Putin's saboteurs !!!!

I'll tell you a secret it was Putin himself, but shh, don't tell anyone. While the doppelganger provides an alibi in the Kremlin, Vladimir Vladimirovich decided to "shake off the old days" and captures ships, blows up howitzers, pulls out the runway in front of the plane and burns tanks ... What will happen next, because his imagination is unlimited

[Berkut-UA]

well, direct the script for the new James Bond in Ukraine

[OST_51RU]

No need to gloat ..... and we have enough.
We still do not know the cause of the Kursk's death - either malicious intent, or stupid theft of control devices, or human stupidity.
As I understand it, most of them came across something similar during the dashing 90s, when non-ferrous metals were accepted near the entrance, and the military was not paid a salary for half a year. And it’s located, that is, it’s stealing the materiel, and as a result, an accident .....
We seem to have it in the past, and in Ukraine - their harsh everyday life.

[maximus]

Quote: awg75

a grenade in the hands of a monkey is scary, first of all, for a monkey

Not always))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6PV-wUoPPI&feature=player_detailpage

[vagabond55]

If the monkey is trained, then with a grenade it is dangerous for its opponent.

[sinukvl]

The Ukrainian army has not yet begun hostilities, but is already suffering losses, that week, during the march of a column near Nikolaev, an infantry fighting vehicle caught fire and exploded (judging by the photo from the fire, the ammunition detonated) today in Dnepropetrovsk, two or three tanks caught fire and exploded. And in the box where this happened, there were still tanks. Yesterday the Su-24 crashed during the landing approach. Now the howitzer exploded during firing practice. It looks like in Ukraine military equipment is in such a state that if they stretch out their "maneuvers" for another couple of weeks, they will be left with one single Maidan catapult, and even that is broken. In order to bring the army into a more or less normal state, you first need to bring the economy to life, and not drive it into a comatose, otherwise, no matter how. But with bringing the economy to a normal state, the maydanutyh have problems, they do not raise their economy, but rather bring them down. So in the near future, the Army of Ukraine will have one name and fighters with clubs.
But the children are sorry, suffered because of the grief of the fathers of the commanders.

[platitsyn70]

matches should be banned from selling in Ukraine, otherwise they will burn themselves and the Russians will not get anything.

[homosum20]

mamont5, let them practice. We will have less.

[shelva]

Then their tanks explode, now howitzers - maybe the Ukrainian military shouldn't touch weapons at all ?, "matches are not a game for children."

[120352]

Gentlemen, you do not understand! This is a new way of desertion, a favorite occupation of the army of a neighboring state. They specifically teach this!

[avg]

On the Crimean peninsula and on the eastern border with Ukraine, Russia accumulates military equipment and weapons intended exclusively for offensive operations.
This was stated by former First Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Admiral Igor Kabanenko on the BTB television channel on Saturday.

Will their admirals ever end?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: avg

Will their admirals ever end?

Atelier for the manufacture of chevrons has stopped accepting orders for the manufacture of admiral epaulets due to a lack of production capacity

[mamont5]

Quote: avg

Will their admirals ever end? request

It seems that they have an overproduction of admirals with an almost complete absence of a fleet.

[Salamander]

Ukrainian crews are fighting fiercely with their equipment. Losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: T-64BV - 6 pcs. MSTA-S - 1 pc. Su-24M - 1 pc. BTR-3 - 2 pcs. Ukrainian Navy - 96%. And we haven’t even shot it yet.

[Tuzik]

Ukrainian crews are fighting fiercely with their equipment.
wept

[120352]

Technology is constantly winning!

[I read the news]

BMP? - 2 pcs.

[polite people]

It's only the beginning. The technink will die for them. True, they have something. But I think our specialists will figure it out. Here's what to do with the MAYDOWNS on drugs. For them, the words GLORY TO UKRAINE as a portion of heroin. With him and what to do.

[Dimkin]

And what do they do with a patient who is dying?

[dmikras]

treat but very neatly

[Vyacheslav 64]

It's only the beginning. The technink will die for them. True, they have something. But I think our specialists will figure it out. Here's what to do with the MAYDOWNS on drugs. For them, the words GLORY TO UKRAINE as a portion of heroin. With him and what to do.

Send doctors with a bitter medicine to them.

[120352]

It is necessary to mobilize their blown up (and not only) equipment to steel mills to drag. Manually. This will be a thrill!

[Ramzes]

"Glory to Ukraine!" they have already become exactly the same as "Allah Akbar!" among terrorists of a certain religious orientation.

[coserg 2012]

And didn’t you try it? They say an effective remedy.

[vagabond55]

That's right. Our special forces will talk with Bandera.
Troops will be introduced as a last resort. It is necessary to send our intelligence agents into the ranks of the armed "maydauns" and eliminate the ringleaders. then the turn will come to enter the Russian army ...

[delfinN]

That is what combat training has not been for 23 years. Honor remained - skills are gone. I wanted to say about the downed civilian - I will not say anything.

[Apollo]

quote-During the exercises in a certain area of ​​the Kherson region during a change in firing position, a fire of a self-propelled howitzer 2С19 of one of the military units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces occurred, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reports.

That tanks explode now now self-propelled guns.

[Patriot.ru.]

For them, the class that all this exploded inside the self-propelled guns. And self-propelled guns survived all this.

[vlum]

This is not yet an investigation record of what happened. Most likely, the survivors are also accused of sabotage and imprisoned, plainly not even understanding.

[Leshka]

not an army but a club of young pyrotechnics

[GRANATE-19]

Quote: Leshka

not an army but a club of young pyrotechnics

I would say to YOUNG NATURALISTS (such a magazine was in the USSR), we decided to go out in the wild to watch the birds, but they couldn’t handle the transport! (But I really feel sorry for them, it’s a grief for mothers.) With respect, I express my humble opinion.

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

How did he go? Where did he go? Or killed or wounded. What should have remained of him. Yes, and order in the tank troops.

[gfs84]

Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013

How did it go? Where did it go?

I would like to believe that I "disappeared" to Crimea, myself, while alive and well)))

[Tersky]

Quote: gfs84

I would like to believe that I "disappeared" to Crimea, myself, while alive and well)))

Your words to God in the ears ...

[Jin]

Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013

. What should have been left of him.

In our unit, from the first Chechen one, there were three fighters who were missing, at that time, two years have passed ... The crew of the tank, from which (the tank) remained the front armor plate and the tower found behind the five-story building ... it is not yet clear what happened there (well, from what exactly the tank died, the RPG or what "own" bastard bomb flew in), but nothing remained of the guys ... missing.

[Patriot.ru.]

It can not be.

[Jin]

Quote: Patriot.ru.

It can not be.

Are you talking about my comment? And then somehow they wrote under mine, and what cannot be and why, I absolutely do not understand ... or concretize or do not write this: "this cannot be, because this cannot be" ... a verbal bunch into a puddle, sorry, it turns out ...

[GRANATE-19]

Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013

How did he go? Where did he go? Or killed or wounded. What should have remained of him. Yes, and order in the tank troops.

SPGs didn’t explode in my presence, but I saw how tanks explode: when a full ammunition battery instantly detonates on landmines, a tank tears to shreds (I didn’t believe it was an infantry fighting vehicle at first, but I understood from the thickness of the wreckage, the diameter of the rollers and the diameter of the axles), the tower weighs 13 tons flew into the field for 30 meters. They say the crew fit into the OZK stocking; if they are knocked out from a grenade launcher and the ammunition launcher is not intact, then I saw (it was in the light of the BMP headlight) two were torn to pieces the size of a fist, the third was completely burned beyond recognition and did not see where the tower was, but one side disappeared, the tank burst into the ground. So if a fighter is mentally not "got on the skis" then he should be found in any condition. ETERNAL MEMORY TO THE HEROES OF TANKISTS !!! With respect, I express my humble opinion.

[Day 11]

Here’s the detonation of BC on self-propelled guns in Chechnya. Eternal memory to the boys

[nizrum]

... there’s nothing even to send home ...
"Evaporated" takes on a special, ominous meaning ...

[Old shoe]

Hopefully I just escaped to the noise. If not - sorry kid :(

[nizrum]

Headings of course)))
As a result of the explosion disappeared ... chtoli evaporated? Felts killed and hide, felts fled to the noise ....

[120352]

Made a noise and fled.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Well done, they were not afraid to put out .. brave guys! The fourth must have died my condolences ..

[Coffee_time]

They are not fighting, and the losses in technology are no longer small.

[wallbog]

sorry for the guys suffer due to the fact that neither the experience nor combat training, nor money, and even the fathers of the commanders, I wonder who prepared the canned equipment?

[Watchman]

This is what I understand the army! Perhaps for the first time since 1992, cars were rolled out of the boxes.

[I read the news]

Not certainly in that way.
All that could be sold since 1992 - sold.
And they try to roll out what remains.

[Siberian19]

so the thing will go Ukrainian army will destroy itself!

[vlum]

Well, if only yourself, but how they get into something in the city or into some kind of ammunition depot or a tank with hazardous materials.

[vagabond55]

You think right. Bandera will go over to guerrilla warfare. They have no other choice. Who pays, he orders music ...

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: vagabundo55

You think right

Native ... Clear the history of the braz, or something ... I, as you read, began to stutter

[konvalval]

Guys, of course, sorry. But this is an example. It’s better not to touch this technique now.

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

This is all * M * O * S * K * A * L * And they are to blame, they will say from the habit of the mass media, ............. sorry for the boys, of course, they have to pay health and lives for the fascist junta!

[serega.fedotov]

And there were definitely military men there, and not banderlogs? So many emergency situations in three days, and knowing the army’s habit of hiding incidents, I’m sure this is only a small part! But for even a few trained soldiers, this is too much!

[boozer]

Meaningless losses! Humanly sorry for the guys, they are not to blame for the fact that the Ukrainian army is in such a state. But someone brought her to this? Sound military and law-abiding citizens of Ukraine should reflect on this issue! Or is Russia to blame again?

[Dimkin]

The one who is not likely to be accused of sabotage is guilty, undermined the morale of the army and leaked to an unknown destination

[Artem1967]

The howitzer is still of Soviet production. It's good if the storage was serviced according to the rules. But, worst of all, what is the condition of their ammunition? There can be any surprises here, especially in the clumsy hands of the new "heroes of Independence". In short, a couple of weeks of maneuvers by the Ukrainian army = one day of real combat.

[Yemelya]

Four crew members were urgently evacuated to a safe place. The search for another crew member continues.

There are only 4 crew members in "Akatsia".

Who are you looking for?

They will search until they look at TTX

[boozer]

All documentation for the campaign was burned in accordance with the directive ...

[dmikras]

Well, if only such a SU-152G (although they write that it was not mass-produced) http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%A3-152%D0%93

[Tumbleweed]

Quote: Emelya

There are only 4 crew members in "Akatsia". Who are you looking for?

Commissioner from the "Right Sector"

[Mainbeam]

Quote: Emelya

There are only 4 crew members in "Akatsia".
Who are you looking for?

assigned to the crew of Maydan’s

[Anatolich]

Yeah, they are looking for a commissioner, pants can be found on a neighboring birch.

[novobranets]

Quote: Anatolich

yeah the commissioner is looking for

Instead of shelling, he was shoved into the barrel.

[lexa-xa]

Crew, people-5 (7 people when shooting from the ground)

[muhomor]

According to the message, MST-S exploded. And in the photo "Akatsiya" Actually, they are preparing seriously, even at firing, the ammunition is not unloaded.

[niki233]

observer from the right sector

[Anatolich]

To learn the crew of a combat fighting vehicle, it takes time, and more than one month, if not a year, it is necessary that every movement is done automatically. It went through when he served in 201 MSD on the BTR-80. And there are self-propelled guns and tanks, and this is even more difficult. We all saw the tank biathlon, we can say the best crews of the Russian army and then how many mistakes were made. And then they mobilized and immediately to the equipment. 100% there will be more than one state of emergency and there will be pressure on each other and fires and explosions. On one enthusiasm, you can only run with a gun, and then you need to learn and observe safety, and what kind of security does patriotism play in your head.

[vlum]

Moreover, patriotism plays in the head of the authorities and the commissioner maydanuty. A soldier is simply a hostage to the situation.

[kelevra]

Before conducting the exercises, it was necessary to conduct a complete diagnostics of the equipment. So much time was inactive and suddenly the exercises fell on you, failures!

[UREC]

Sorry for the Ukrainian boys, the demobilization was canceled because of the Maydauns, there was nothing to eat in the army - but the last solarium was burned for "maneuvers". I live 13 km from the border with Ukraine, aunts (Ukrainian women) from Volchansk carry Ukrainian sausage and vodka (there it is TWO times cheaper than Russian), so they say that Ukrainian conscripts dig a moat along the border with us, and in the evening they go in the courtyards asking for food from the population! Damn, I feel sorry for the guys nah. such an army and country?

[boozer]

Catapult, shields, batons, now here is the moat. Damn, do they even understand what century it is now?

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: boozer

Catapult, shields, batons, now here is the moat. Damn, do they even understand what century it is now?

They don’t even understand what planet they are on! Have you not heard of the warriors of Narnia ?!
And this is one of the elite units of the Ukrainian Military Revolutionary Military Council!

[uhu189]

But somehow Ukraine manages to sell its equipment, and after all they buy it, and nothing explodes. Or it turns out that they have one thing for sale, and another thing for their own army ... And the impression is that everyone doesn’t care. No investigations, no conclusions - nothing at all. The tanks burned down - and to hell with them ... The bomber fell - well, it happens. Enough already?

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: uhu189

for sale - one thing, but for your own army - quite another ...

it goes on sale either from the factory or overhauled with the replacement of all gaskets, tubes, rubber bands, and its storage and costs are maintained on paper.

[UREC]

All that can be sold is sold, it’s necessary to eat! And why modernize your army - Geyropa will correct and help everything.

[ZU-23]

God immediately punished only criminal and bloodthirsty thoughts.

[Shadow1]

Quote: Artem1967

The howitzer is still of Soviet production. It's good if the storage was serviced according to the rules. But, worst of all, what is the condition of their ammunition? There can be any surprises here, especially in the clumsy hands of the new "heroes of Independence". In short, a couple of weeks of maneuvers by the Ukrainian army = one day of real combat.

One hour of fighting! Particularly pleased with the camouflage of tree branches and the interval between machines, that they have not read the instructions for the combat use of self-propelled guns?

[Anatolich]

I think their army is in full disaster now, they’ll quickly recruit meat, but there’s probably not enough specialists who will teach them there.

[Krsk]

In fact, God forbid that everything would end well, after all, it’s not Yatsenyuk that the same people as everyone else were burning with the rest of the scum, they are the last to blame for what is happening in Ukraine now. So health to them ...

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

With this skill, the troops on the march will not exceed combat losses.

[77bob1973]

Typically, such troubles occur after removing the equipment from storage, the maintenance of which is practically not carried out. The service life of any isolation is 10 years, then the card will lie down.

[techmesh]

Not only are the fighters not trained, the equipment is not prepared, but there are probably no new ammunition. The old ones had to be disposed of for a long time, but they shoot them.

[vagabond55]

Here Bandera and utilize them with the help of terrorist attacks. Military warehouses in their hands.

[Monk]

The army of Ukraine is self-destructing.

[120352]

Elementary ZUG ZWANG

[shurik]

Quote: Apollon

quote-During the exercises in a certain area of ​​the Kherson region during a change in firing position, a fire of a self-propelled howitzer 2С19 of one of the military units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces occurred, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reports.

That tanks explode now now self-propelled guns.

Take, for example, a fire in a tank brigade in Krivoy Rog, during which 2 tanks exploded and three more tanks burned down. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense, "the cause of the fire was a short circuit in the radio station R-123 when checking the connection between the two T-64BV tanks that were in storage." On one of the tanks, when the radio was turned on, a fire occurred in the electrical wiring because of it, I quote "physical deterioration."

Horror! Where to hide?

[Genry]

Do you seriously believe that the P-123 could burn the tank. Even if the fuses are replaced by jumpers, with a short circuit in the power supply, the power connector or internal wire in the power supply will burn out and that's it. The station itself is like an aluminum ingot with light bulbs. There is nothing to burn.
I worked as a radio mechanic, a couple of years, in the military unit, in the team for their repair.

[kocclissi]

But what if you pour water? Is it by accident? It will not catch fire too? So we don’t trust Russian accidents, we’ll do everything for sure! Not like those ..... who are not good people in the parliament!

[Hey]

Do you believe that a TV can burn an apartment?
All aluminum boxes are burning, such fireworks, Chinese in no comparison.
And another misfortune of stagnant technology is the mouse. Although they add different crap to the isolation.

[Korolev]

ALL WRONG. THE CASE IS NOT THAT THE TANKS ARE BURNED, BUT THOSE UNDER THE NOISE OF THREE TANKS WITH THE FUEL OF THE JV .... OR.

[120352]

And maybe the cause and effect should be interchanged: 1) a crew member disappeared; 2) howitzer exploded.
On, but in general. the system is looming. First tanks, then plane, now self-propelled. So, you see, they themselves will plunder all heavy weapons, while they are panting about an attack on Russia.

[pvv113]

Quote: boozer

All documentation for the campaign was burned in accordance with the directive ...

IN UKRAINE IN THE LIGHT OF THE FIGHT AGAINST THE RUSSIAN LANGUAGE AT ONE TIME ATTEMPTED TO TRANSLATE ALL TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION TO THE UKRAINIAN LANGUAGE. MAY THEN AND LET'S OVERLOOK

[shurik]

Quote: 120352

And maybe the cause and effect should be interchanged: 1) a crew member disappeared; 2) howitzer exploded.
On, but in general. the system is looming. First tanks, then plane, now self-propelled. So, you see, they themselves will plunder all heavy weapons, while they are panting about an attack on Russia.

In order not to shoot on their own, it is better to undermine.

[UREC]

You need to shoot at those who brewed it all!

[120352]

It is better to give them a rope, a nail, a hammer and a bar of soap. To quietly depart.

[TiGRoO]

Details of the capture of the project 773 U401 "Kirovograd" medium landing craft by the GRU Armed Forces of the Russian Federation became known. For more than 20 hours, the successive Russian special forces shouted to the Ukrainian sailors in the loudspeaker the command “Who can’t stop - .................. removed by the moderator Apollon After 20 hours, the exhausted sailors and officers were loaded in trucks and sent to the hospital

[Saratovets]

How cruel! it's torture!

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Saratovets

How cruel! it's torture!

And what? Has Ban Ki-moon not arrived yet?

[Koresh]

This is a parody of the Army ...
I saw how our soldiers were outfitted near the Belarusian border, built on a parade ground with all their weapons, declared a combat mission and lined up and loaded onto a trolley with a harnessed horse and went off in an unknown direction on a wagon))) It's a pity I didn’t take off the camera ... well, Budyon’s division was direct )))

[120352]

And where did they get the horse? Not Belarus neighbors stolen?

[Siberian19]

it’s better to set fire to tanks than to shoot from brothers!

[Lone gunman]

... so with the kid, if he died, say so, if you fled, then in the current situation in Ukraine, I am happy for him ...

[siberalt]

Yeah, teleported to Russia from this life. In general, it hurts for the boys. Well, at least the pilots managed to eject from the "dive" bomber. It’s necessary to bring the army to such a state! No, Ukraine can never become a sovereign state.

[serg2.72]

After such miracles, it becomes scary for passenger aircraft, all the more precedents have already been.

[vst6]

So ours are already bypassing Ukraine.

[Vadim12]

Is Putin again to blame?

[Kazanec]

Some kind of madhouse. Maybe these emergency situations (and probably not the last ones) will affect the personnel of UA and indeed many will go home?

[120352]

Of course go! 1. Nobody wants to fight with brothers, except for loonies. 2. Psychos will not fight on anything. Yes, and probably nothing. In addition to small arms.

[VNP1958PVN]

Small arms have already been stolen. Only in the East, residents guard their arsenals on their own. Tilka for sebe.

[Kazanec]

Some kind of madhouse. Maybe these emergency situations (and probably not the last ones) will affect the personnel of UA and indeed many will go home?

[Owl]

2S19 "Msta-S" (GABTU index - object 316, according to NATO classification - M1990 "Farm") - a modern Russian 152-mm divisional self-propelled howitzer, adopted for service in 1989. A fairly modern installation, but what were the conditions of storage and operation, what was the preparedness of the crew - this is another question. The result (the combination of all factors) is obvious.

[sv68]

admins and moderators, please return the Russian tricolor to me. Rostov-on-Don is a Russian city. Correct the mistake

[DimDimych]

As a result of the explosion of a self-propelled howitzer in the Kherson region missing crew member

it did not disappear, but was launched to fly over the Ukrainian borders.

[Artois]

Quote: Emelya

Four crew members were urgently evacuated to a safe place. The search for another crew member continues.

There are only 4 crew members in "Akatsia".

Who are you looking for?

They will search until they look at TTX

So they are probably looking for the commissar from the right sector, whom the crew quietly forgot in the self-propelled guns

[ty60]

In Acacia, in peacetime, 3 crew members - commander, gunner and mechanic-driver. In military terms, 6: One loader in the vehicle and two from the ground. In Ukraine, they could add one loader to the staff. In a permanent composition in peacetime.

[ty60]

In Acacia, in peacetime, 3 crew members - commander, gunner and mechanic-driver. In military terms, 6: One loader in the vehicle and two from the ground. In Ukraine, they could add one loader to the staff. In a permanent composition in peacetime.

[dFG]

and this army tried to resist the Russian army? three tanks in a box, one on the border, one self-propelled gun in an exercise and a plane on takeoff... these are losses of units that have not yet entered into battle... this is even tougher than the 90s in the Russian army

[turishev]

[media=http://vk.com/doc200895264_187712176]

[delfinN]

They also say something about restoring nuclear potential. Then it will definitely be hell for everyone.

[Saratovets]

We probably misunderstood, not nuclear but nuclear! yak vodka

[Siberian19]

off topic but to the point!

[capex1]

This is the native, “combat-ready” army of the freest country in the world. There will be no food in the country in two weeks, they decided to play war with themselves.

[novobranets]

Dad, if you try to grab it, then I’m going to intercept the pishla.

[Aleksey_K]

I will speak sharply about most statements about old equipment or shells. NONSENSE! It's all about the people and the commanders. All fires occur due to the fault of the crew. Surely the self-propelled gun was removed from conservation. In this case, it is washed from the sealant (putty) with white alcohol, and not with gasoline, as is usually done by the troops in the field. It’s just that gasoline remained in the fighting compartment and its vapors ignited, due to the laziness of the crew to wipe everything dry and ventilate, or because of the idiot of the commander who was rushing the soldiers.
I myself served on equipment that had been mothballed since 1945. They periodically removed the mothballs, checked their combat readiness, cleaned, painted and put them back into mothballs. And it was only because of the fighters that fires occurred, because... violated the regulations for these works.

[ty60]

It’s interesting that the St. John’s worts ISU 152, IS-3?D were mothballed in 80, they were ZIS-5 85mm. Trailers.

[Pukanpein]

ZIS 5 for information, this is the gun of the KV-1 tank, and its caliber is 76 mm.
And in warehouses there are still D-44s with a caliber of 85 mm.
Mistake

[Vitaly Anisimov]

The guys are trying to save the materiel at the cost of life and injury..! and in the meantime:
Servicemen of the Marine Corps battalion of the Ukrainian Naval Forces in Feodosia raised the Ukrainian flag on yellow and blue balloons over the military unit, Source: http://censor.net.ua/v277358 Source: http://censor.net.ua/v277358
Let's Ukrainians do something. This new government is simply making an Army of clowns. Well, it's a shame already... a fucking woman!

[boozer]

Yeah well. How did this fighter not come out of the woodwork? Flag, balloons, the last cry of the soul for the campaign...

[16112014nk]

Soon the bow and arrows will really remain.

[Ustian]

Moscow, March 23 – AiF-Moscow. Russian Permanent Representative to the EU Vladimir Chizhov jokingly advised US Senator John McCain to “keep an eye on Alaska” on Sunday on “The Andrew Marr Show,” BBC One reported.

The main topic of the politician’s interview was the situation in Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea. The host of the show mentioned the words of Senator McCain that Moldova will become the next country that could become part of the Russian Federation.

“Watch Moldova!” — the presenter quoted the senator.

In response to this remark, Chizhov replied: “Tell McCain to keep an eye on Alaska” and added that “Alaska was part of Russia!”

Marr noted that this is a "very scary thought." However, the Permanent Representative to the EU clarified that it was a joke.

[Berkut-UA]

Yes, for sure - Americans don’t understand jokes.
McCain is still shaking with anger
that he was shot down by a Russian missile.

And many people have a pathological hatred of Russians and Russia.

[delfinN]

Quote: 16112014nk

Soon the bow and arrows will really remain.

[bubalik]

Quote: 16112014nk

Soon the truth will remain bow arrows

,,,or so ,,,

[mamont5]

Quote: delfinN

Quote: 16112014nk
Soon the bow and arrows will really remain.

And the leader on the right? Is this really Klitschko? Or did Tymoshenko disguise herself?

[Stinger]

The sign should be hung on "Msta". "Don't fuck with me"

[sawmill]

If they had an army, officers, they would disperse the Maidan, the Rada, the weak-willed Yatsenyuks and hold a referendum in the country, it would solve all the issues with the language, federalization, with the EU, with NATO, etc.
They would approve the constitution in a popular vote and build their own independent and independent truth without Crimea, but it’s their own fault.
But they don't have an army. Therefore, we will be watching this movie for a long time, just imagine how they will choose the president? The circus is sizzling, another episode of the Maidan.
And the men were herded into the army, and I think there are those who came on their own, but what should we do with the army?
The main idea of ​​the mobilized average Ukrainian-speaking Russian as well as the Russian-speaking Ukrainian fighter, I think, sounds something like this: “Well, what idiot has gathered us all here?”
In another week the Yatsenyuks will get the idea and start disbanding the army into their huts or run away themselves. And all this against the backdrop of brave reports on how they scared us with their determination.
At the same time, I think it’s time for Yanukovych, with the support of a certain amount of polite security, to settle in Kharkov, Donetsk or Lugansk and start stamping decrees.
Let's have some fun, personally, I want to see how Yaytsenyuk eats his tie.
Glory to Ukraine.

[All1]

Shortly before this, a man in a black cloak with two daggers in his belt was seen there.

[poplar]

Quote: 0255

Quote: olegff68

Russia has a secret weapon, for how else can you explain:

Artillerymen of the Western Military District entered the training grounds.

And right away:

The first Ukrainian tanks destroyed in Krivoy Rosh

As a result of the howitzer explosion in the Kherson region ...

in Nikolaev BMP blew up

I think that at least 99,9% of West Ukrainian neo-fascists already consider these accidents with their technique m_skalskoy sabotage

[boozer]

Yes, if it flinches, it won’t seem like much, neither to us nor to Europe... We remember Chernobyl.

[Pukanpein]

They turned off the last one in 2001.
The chief engineer cried at this.
30 thousand people were left without work.

[individual]

I listened to the statement of a Donbass self-defense fighter:
We will not fight with soldiers.
We'll burn the equipment...

[clidon]

I feel sorry for the people first of all. Then they started combat training, and accidents began. That's how it is for everyone.

[vst6]

Yes, matches are not a toy, everything is fine, after playing, put them in their place and let them stay there for another 23 years.

[fly fishing]

What they haven’t managed to sell yet is what they are going to fight with. Once again, ordinary soldiers are suffering. Why do you ask?

[ty60]

They write about 2s19 Msta. In the picture 2s3 Acacia. Who are we trying to lie to?

[Artois]

Quote: ty60

They write about 2s19 Msta. In the picture 2s3 Acacia. Who are we trying to lie to?

So journalists try to push any photo to make it look good - I’ve seen this 100 times on all resources.
So we’re familiar - you see, you’re not)))

[Nicholas]

Question for the experts!

Is this type of weapon secret?

[Nicholas]

Question for the experts!

Is this type of weapon secret?

[Skuto]

there is such a rumor... they say that in the Ukrainian army they carry out such sabotage so as not to fight with Russia, if the possessed in Kyiv order, then they will burn 5 tanks, then the Su-24 will bite into the ground. Typically, there were no casualties.
In this case, again, I dug up on the Internet, the missing crew member seemed to be from the west of Ukraine. Although these are rumors.

[Larsen]

In any army, during exercises there is a legal percentage of accidents and even losses. In ours, too, cases are not isolated. Those who served know there are many reasons for this: from the state of the hardware to the carelessness of the personnel. But it is possible that a certain trend is emerging.

[egor64]

This self-propelled howitzer is called Akatsiya and it has only four crew members. It is not clear who they lost. You need to drink less vodka and everything will be fine.

[ty60]

3 in peacetime. The duties of the loader are performed by mechanical and water data for the 80th year of the last century. If anything has changed, I sincerely apologize.

[ty60]

3 in peacetime. The duties of the loader are performed by mechanical and water data for the 80th year of the last century. If anything has changed, I sincerely apologize.

[Grandfather Victor]

I feel sorry for the boy...

[Yarik]

Anatolich Today, 19:41 ↑
Yeah, they are looking for a commissioner, pants can be found on a neighboring birch.

Exactly, a political leader. A guide, so to speak, to a component. Directed, apparently.

[vit]

Four crew members were urgently evacuated to safety. The search for another crew member continues... and the 5th crew member receives an award in the Kremlin and the next rank of FSB lieutenant for the destruction of enemy armored vehicles...

[RUS33]

Quote: user1212

Weapons must be taken away from them until they were killed. Nobody has shot at them yet, but already losses. And not the first, after all, an emergency. Either the tanks are on fire, the plane crashes, now the self-propelled guns burned.

Russia will be blamed again.

[Partizan]

Quote: predator.3

What are there W.-4m. depth 2,5 of force width 1,5-2 m. depth-1,2-1,5 m.

Well, it was necessary to somehow account for the funds “as for 50 aircraft,” so they assigned a larger size.
Well, well, this ditch is just a joke.))

[RUS33]

Quote: user1212

Weapons must be taken away from them until they were killed. Nobody has shot at them yet, but already losses. And not the first, after all, an emergency. Either the tanks are on fire, the plane crashes, now the self-propelled guns burned.

Russia will be blamed again.

Quote: de Klermon

Tenyukh! You bastard! People were lured into “training” by deception

This was all done thoughtfully so that there would be fewer men at the rallies, and there would be fewer

[teacher]

Well, it seems to me that it’s time to no longer entertain yourself with illusions, but to say - you are not my brother, Western Ukrainian - quote from the film “brother”

[Pukanpein]

We had a similar situation in 94.
Then they tried to return MIG-27m fighter-bombers from warehouses to air regiments.
But due to improper storage, the planes became beyond repair. in just 3 years.
In Ukraine, the equipment was in warehouses for 23 years. What to expect here. Plus, I’m sure that the reservists ended up in a vehicle other than their specialization.
Age, lack of care, inexperience have done their job.
The Ukrainian army is not combat-ready. Remember the submarine Zaporozhye - it is completely covered with rust.
I think the tanks are also far from ideal in condition.

[Indifferent]

Losses are growing! A self-propelled howitzer was added to the five tanks and aircraft. If the exercises become regular, then there will be nothing to fight with!

[typhoon7]

Quote: user1212

Weapons must be taken away from them until they were killed. Nobody has shot at them yet, but already losses. And not the first, after all, an emergency. Either the tanks are on fire, the plane crashes, now the self-propelled guns burned.

There was a direct attack on them, another month of combat training and there would be nothing to shoot from, and nothing to fly on. There is no need to talk about the fleet, it doesn’t exist.

[kocclissi]

This is probably about this situation!

[Partizan]

Yes, cool cartoon, I saw it about...eleven years ago.

[ded10041948]

To destroy the Ukrainian army, no external enemy is needed! There are a lot of different I.O. (from the president to the minister of defense) and all kinds of maydowns. They can handle it on their own! I just feel sorry for the people and subordinates. What are they suffering for? And those responsible for all this mess will be appointed!

[ussrex]

Well, here, in short, everything is clear. Yaytsenyukh needs to report to the black master how the fighting is going. On the instructions of Yaitsenyukh, the dry admiral Tenyukh (nee Pentyukh), in order to simulate combat operations, actively imitates combat losses, writing off the stars and stripes loot. The reports to the Dostan ambassador clearly indicate that military equipment was lost as a result of stubborn battles with “Putler’s wildcat (you’ll break your tongue!) forces of bearish aggression.” And to seize the territory of military units of the outskirts of the outskirts, Putler’s troops mercilessly use prohibited means: Molotov cocktails, seasoned with bear urine and charged with the energy of Putin’s withering gaze. And only the prayers of Pastor Turchinov save Nenka from immediate genocide from the bloody KGB...
Under such reports, the Dostan ambassador is ready to slobber a little more cabbage with trembling hands for the poor rabbit.

[alex47russ]

MATCHES ARE NOT TOYS FOR CHILDREN! THERE IS NO ARMY IN UKRAINE!

[polite people]

Who will explain I was bullied for speaking. Seriously, this is a forbidden word.

[Apollo]

Quote: polite people

Who will explain I was bullied for speaking

You were not banned, but given a warning for a word prohibited by VO rules. This is the first thing.

Quote: polite people

Seriously, this is a forbidden word.

What did you think, didn’t you read the rules when registering?!
Read.http://topwar.ru/rules.html especially point b)

[polite people]

Instead of weapons, they will get this. Real democracy, European style.

[biglow]

where is AKIM? and I told you all about the new equipment in the Ukrainian army, and I would like to ask where all this is...

[Hudo]

Quote: biglow

where is AKIM? and I told you all about the new equipment in the Ukrainian army, and I would like to ask where all this is...

Have you seen a 400 km long ditch along the “U” border? It's his doing.

[Capyar 48315]

I read it here - complete banter. Sofa strategists. Is it their fault that they have such technology? - old and... that there are no basic spare parts, no fuel and lubricants for studying. I think the crews are prepared in terms of handling equipment and operating rules - only without constant field practice - this is so - theory and bullshit. But the order came and went out as it was and no one is interested in how. I would watch not how they leave the unit, but how they arrive in the area - a hundred pounds - half of the second one is on hitches, and then the rest are collected from the route by technicians (I know that the article is about tracked vehicles - I’m talking about what I encountered I myself, given the similar technical condition of the park in our army) Therefore, there is no need to joke - I feel sorry for the boys - they would never die and be maimed on old, shamanized equipment because of unknown reasons, but under orders - you wouldn’t wish it on the enemy