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As a result of the explosion of a self-propelled howitzer in Kherson region, a crew member disappeared

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As a result of the explosion of a self-propelled howitzer in Kherson region, a crew member disappeared

During the exercise in a certain area of ​​the Kherson region during the change of firing position there was a fire of a self-propelled howitzer 2С19 of one of the military units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reports.


“The crew of the self-propelled howitzer tried to extinguish the fire on its own, but the measures taken by the servicemen did not produce results, the detonation of the ammunition occurred,” the department said.

Four crew members were urgently evacuated to a safe place. The search for another crew member continues.

As a result of the fire, three crew members of the combat vehicle received burns to their hands and faces and were taken to one of the district hospitals of the Kherson region, where they were provided with the necessary medical assistance. The state of health of servicemen is satisfactory.

A demining team is working at the scene to organize and carry out activities to search for ammunition scattered by the explosion and the subsequent evacuation of the vehicle.

Appointed official investigation.
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    1. Tumbleweed
      Tumbleweed 23 March 2014 19: 14
      +84
      Quote: svetlomor
      *****, not the army.

      The army may be normal, but if you give the best shooter a gun that has been lying on the street for 23 years in the rain and offer to shoot from it, then at best it will refuse, at worst it will happen the same as with a howitzer ...
      So far, Ukraine's military equipment causes more damage to Ukraine itself than to the enemy. It's time to come to your senses and return the troops to the garrisons and put the equipment on hold, otherwise only small arms will remain ... winked
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 23 March 2014 19: 21
        +27
        Quote: tumbleweed
        The army may be normal, but if you give the best shooter a gun, which 23 of the year lay on the street

        ... but the shooter like 20 did not shoot. The result is predictable.
        1. user1212
          user1212 23 March 2014 19: 33
          +60
          Weapons must be taken away from them until they were killed. Nobody has shot at them yet, but already losses. And not the first, after all, an emergency. Either the tanks are on fire, the plane crashes, now the self-propelled guns burned.
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 23 March 2014 19: 39
            +21
            Quote: user1212
            Weapons must be taken from them until they get killed

            What does Yarosh do ...
            1. sovety
              sovety 23 March 2014 21: 24
              +8
              But Yarosh is such a military master laughing
              Maser movie. bully
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 23 March 2014 23: 25
                +7
                Quote: sovety
                But Yarosh is such a military master

                I would not advise you to get into his hands to get them up to your elbows in blood, ours, Russian ... He is not a cinematographer, but in reality a "master of the back" ...
                1. Day 11
                  Day 11 23 March 2014 23: 49
                  0
                  Yarosh didn’t seem to have fought in Chechnya. But about Biloy ... Who knows why he received the Order of Ichkeria for the Honor of the Nation?
                  1. sergei tulun
                    sergei tulun 24 March 2014 04: 58
                    +2
                    ... they simply, still did not receive a worthy rebuff .... a lot of mind must be beaten unarmed ...
                2. Lelek
                  Lelek 24 March 2014 00: 01
                  +5
                  Akhmed Zakayev was also an actress. And also hands on the shoulders in our blood. For such cuts only a rope or a bullet. soldier
                3. mamont5
                  mamont5 24 March 2014 04: 10
                  +3
                  Quote: Tersky
                  I would not advise you to get into his hands to get them up to your elbows in blood, ours, Russian ... He is not a cinematographer, but in reality a "master of the back" ...

                  Being a soldier or executioner are two different things. Yarosh, it’s the executioner, such daredevils are usually surrounded by their own, and a little cuddle - they look where to hide.
          2. avg
            avg 23 March 2014 20: 06
            +29
            Quote: user1212
            Weapons must be taken away from them until they were killed.

            I can imagine how the geyropeytsy is writhing with mattresses when these banderlogs begin to talk about nuclear weapons. laughing
          3. GRANATE-19
            GRANATE-19 23 March 2014 20: 18
            +17
            I join, to take away, but I think that this is our Commander of the VALUE BLACK SEA FLEET! He said: "God forbid OUR side, even from a slingshot! Matches are not a toy, please understand me LITERALLY !!!" On the way, even the technique is afraid!
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          5. smith7
            smith7 23 March 2014 20: 41
            +27
            Many people here probably imagine how to handle weapons. And for those who have no idea I will say that weapons, in principle, are not a safe thing. These things are made to be harmful. In order not to harm yourself, you must follow a whole bunch of operating rules, including storage, use as directed, and routine maintenance. People who are illiterate and untrained have no moral right to even touch weapons and ammunition. What happened with the Ukrainian artillerymen could have happened in other armies. But the training of personnel in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not up to the mark ... It is possible that the guys were elementary unlucky, but they were "getting on their tongue," they screwed up the dollar ... they would have a head-handed one ... No need to humor at them, because they do not know that doing ...
            1. maximus
              maximus 23 March 2014 23: 14
              +1
              You don’t need to mock at all, but you cannot give spoiled toys to children!
            2. kirieeleyson
              kirieeleyson 24 March 2014 01: 38
              0
              Quote: smith7
              they don’t know what they are doing ...

              And why such a belittling of their aspirations? They know, but only on pieces of paper, or as taught in the USSR yet. There is such a proverb: "Give the fool a glass glass, he will break the glass and cut his hands." So they cut it. well isn't it? or forgot about closing the bch damper ..... what kind of nonsense on the t-64, where is kars, fuck you ...
            3. Weniamin
              Weniamin 24 March 2014 04: 01
              0
              What happened with the Ukrainian artillery could happen in other armies.
              As far as I remember, in Russia, too, not so long ago "Msta" burned.
            4. IGS
              IGS 24 March 2014 05: 33
              0
              In order not to harm yourself, you must comply with a whole bunch of operating rules
              Good point. Behind every line of the Charter, rules and instructions is someone's blood or life. And neglecting them, you need to understand the consequences.
          6. platitsyn70
            platitsyn70 23 March 2014 20: 45
            +8
            Weapons must be taken away from them until they were killed. Nobody has shot at them yet, but already losses. And not the first, after all, an emergency. Either the tanks are on fire, the plane crashes, now the self-propelled guns burned.
            it’s necessary to flee from such an army, when the unit commander tells the commander what to do, how to remove those miserable remnants of people from the Crimea, and in return endure as the charter says, the only way out is to flee from such an army.
            1. Berkut-UA
              Berkut-UA 23 March 2014 23: 01
              +8
              In response, this "commander" said
              that it was necessary to defend the base with weapons in hand.

              That is, he directly in Zhfir called for the soldiers of Ukraine
              shot at Russian soldiers, even if they live in neighboring houses and walked
              in one class.
              That is, this is a call to war on the part of the Ukrainian generals.
              1. Day 11
                Day 11 23 March 2014 23: 10
                +1
                Yes, they themselves do not know what to do in this situation. Note, he did not give a direct order to open fire, “act according to the situation.” That's it, the Ukrainian army is no longer in fact!
          7. evgenii67
            evgenii67 23 March 2014 21: 29
            +11
            I hope the soldier did not die, but managed to seabass.
            1. smel
              smel 23 March 2014 21: 43
              +10
              I hope the soldier did not die, but managed to seabass
              On 2с19 m 2с3 from the calculation, there is always one crew member - a hostage. This is such a design. If you look at these self-propelled guns that were transported by trailers and there are videos in YouTube, you can see their condition. It burned out on the march or when moving. And if they start to shoot, the situation will worsen. And they will try in automatic mode - then generally tryndets
          8. Tron
            Tron 23 March 2014 22: 37
            +15
            Quote: user1212
            Weapons must be taken away from them until they were killed.

            Yeah, with a complicated technique they broke off. Now they began to master that simpler.
          9. sergei tulun
            sergei tulun 24 March 2014 04: 56
            0
            ... then the missiles are flying the wrong way ...
          10. Doktor-2
            Doktor-2 24 March 2014 06: 05
            0
            Pancake. like in that movie with black humor ("Slaughter Holidays") ... ... When the heroes bought themselves a country house on the shore of the lake - they swim, relax, put things in order, and then ... the whole plot ". ...
        2. de klermon
          de klermon 23 March 2014 19: 47
          +70
          Tenyukh! You bastard! By deceiving people were lured into "gatherings", they were given out rusty junk, which can only kill the one who exploits it, people are now not allowed out of the units, they are crushed in this scrap metal: only what was published: an airplane, 5 tanks, a self-propelled gun ... It's still good that their ships were taken away, or else someone was drowned! Guys from the Zbroyni forces of Ukraine, do you remember how in a Soviet song? "Take your greatcoat, let's go home! .." Save your lives and health not from ghostly "external enemies", but from such a command, which has already betrayed you five times, the constitution has not been defended, the "supreme legal" and so on ... somewhere! You, who was thrown either in the field, or at railway stations, or in blocked garrisons, where caperangs sleep on tables under an overcoat, remember that you have sworn allegiance to the PEOPLE, and not to the state, which no longer exists and which has already been betrayed by everyone except you!
          PS Guys, for you, everything should have been obvious for a long time: everything that they do with your hands will expose how your crimes are !!!
          1. maximus
            maximus 23 March 2014 23: 18
            +1
            Quote: de Klermon
            Tenyukh! You bastard! By deceiving people were lured into "gatherings", they were given out rusty junk, which can only kill the one who exploits it, people are now not allowed out of the units, they are crushed in this scrap metal: only what was published: an airplane, 5 tanks, a self-propelled gun ... It's still good that their ships were taken away, or else someone was drowned! Guys from the Zbroyni forces of Ukraine, do you remember how in a Soviet song? "Take your greatcoat, let's go home! .." Save your lives and health not from ghostly "external enemies", but from such a command, which has already betrayed you five times, the constitution has not been defended, the "supreme legal" and so on ... somewhere! You, who was thrown either in the field, or at railway stations, or in blocked garrisons, where caperangs sleep on tables under an overcoat, remember that you have sworn allegiance to the PEOPLE, and not to the state, which no longer exists and which has already been betrayed by everyone except you!
            PS Guys, for you, everything should have been obvious for a long time: everything that they do with your hands will expose how your crimes are !!!

            And the extreme ones, even before the geyroppa will be you!
        3. 120352
          120352 23 March 2014 19: 54
          +6
          If the gunner is from NATO, then the shooter, the one who pulls the rope on command, is not so important. If only pulled on time.
          1. vagabundo55
            vagabundo55 24 March 2014 00: 19
            0
            And more than once they pulled at those who are against their illegal power. Everything is just beginning, and a lot of blood is ahead.
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        4. jjj
          jjj 23 March 2014 23: 53
          +1
          And after all, for sure there is still something unscrewed, unscrewed, sold. The Do Sebe system in all its splendor
        5. Shoma-1970
          Shoma-1970 24 March 2014 00: 48
          0
          SORRY THAT IS NOT A CHAIN ​​REACTION!
      2. mad
        mad 23 March 2014 19: 36
        +20
        It is strange that there is still no hysteria, that these are sabotage of damned mo-ska-lei or Putin personally. From yesterday’s teleconference between the commander of the airborne forces in the Crimea - I.O. Minister of Defense is striking an attempt to shift responsibility for their own failures to at least someone, the main thing is not to answer for yourself.
        1. 120352
          120352 23 March 2014 19: 56
          +8
          This is their national style. If it isn’t m-os-k-al, then a neighbor or a boss.
        2. sv68
          sv68 23 March 2014 19: 56
          +9
          don’t tell them. otherwise they’ll find Moscow’s hand
        3. I read the news
          I read the news 23 March 2014 23: 02
          +4
          They say so plain text.
          All responsibility for the situation in the country is personally on ... (Yanukovych, Putin, Perepredniki, ...)
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      3. a52333
        a52333 23 March 2014 19: 37
        +17
        Quote: tumbleweed
        23 of the year lay on the street in the rain and offered to shoot from it, then at best it will refuse

        She didn’t, in general, hid the fat there (in the muzzle), but they forgot to pull it out before firing. recourse
        1. 120352
          120352 23 March 2014 19: 57
          +7
          And with grease should shoot well!
        2. 16112014nk
          16112014nk 23 March 2014 20: 05
          +8
          Quiet Ukrainian night, but the fat must be hidden.
        3. 16112014nk
          16112014nk 23 March 2014 20: 05
          0
          Quiet Ukrainian night, but the fat must be hidden.
          1. a52333
            a52333 23 March 2014 20: 06
            +7
            So yes, but there is also a cebulya and a quarter of a vodka .....
        4. Berkut-UA
          Berkut-UA 23 March 2014 23: 07
          +2
          good class laughing
          completely forgot what is possible
          1. tolancop
            tolancop 23 March 2014 23: 31
            +1
            Sherman from the United States came to the war with viskar and a snack hidden in the trunks. A gift from American workers to Soviet tankmen.
            1. vagabundo55
              vagabundo55 24 March 2014 00: 24
              +1
              Our tankers called the Shermans "coffins" and swore from the heart, but they thanked for the whiskey, sniffed by a sleeve or a swine ...
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        5. maximus
          maximus 23 March 2014 23: 20
          +2
          Quote: a52333
          Quote: tumbleweed
          23 of the year lay on the street in the rain and offered to shoot from it, then at best it will refuse

          She didn’t, in general, hid the fat there (in the muzzle), but they forgot to pull it out before firing. recourse

          Why do you issue secret strategic reserves!
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        1. Tumbleweed
          Tumbleweed 23 March 2014 19: 47
          +14
          Hello Vit hi
          If these brains just lay there, then figs with them would be only a threat to the owner of the brains, but here for 23 years these brains were intensely "had" (well, everyone understood laughing ) and the media and at school, that’s what we now see on Ukrainian sites has grown:
          Mosko .. u on gilyaku
          Moska..y on knives
          Moscow is to blame for everything ..
          I don’t know, I’m reading the forum, communicating with people, watching the Russian media, I have never listened to the calls “kill h..a”, although the contingent of communication is extensive. The most "terrible" I saw last week, when I was "dragging out" with a friend, the latter told the guards to bring women from Western Ukraine from the "point" and said: "Lech, now we will take revenge on them" ... wassat
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 23 March 2014 20: 06
            +12
            Quote: tumbleweed
            I don’t know, I’m reading the forum, communicating with people, watching the Russian media, I have never listened to the calls “kill h..a”, although the contingent of communication is extensive.

            This is precisely the gulf between our consciousness and the consciousness of oligophenes from maydaun. Although what kind of de @ il’s consciousness can there be if the brain is completely absent fool .
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      6. Cherdak
        Cherdak 23 March 2014 19: 47
        +11
        Quote: tumbleweed
        Army can and normal
      7. 120352
        120352 23 March 2014 19: 52
        +6
        Yes, and small arms trunks wear out ...
        1. zanoza
          zanoza 23 March 2014 19: 58
          +10
          Here is their main "weapon" now. Here, it seems, there were no losses wassat
          1. Koresh
            Koresh 23 March 2014 20: 15
            +25
            They even dug the ditch in the wrong direction)) Land towards Russia)) laughing
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 23 March 2014 21: 10
              +28
              Quote: Koresh
              They even dug the ditch in the wrong direction)) Land towards Russia))

              Why is this wrong? On this side they, with the whole Rada, will be thrown into the ditch, and on the Russian side they will be buried with the ground ...
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              2. vagabundo55
                vagabundo55 24 March 2014 00: 37
                0
                It will not be so easy to throw them into the ditch. Bandera
                They will fight fiercely. Their ranks are growing (the media are silent about this) also due to experienced mercenaries from hot spots that calmly flock to Kiev through the countries of Pibaltika, Poland and
                etc. Kiev will be turned into a fortified area and will stand to death. Remember how our troops took Grozny at the time ... That's it, my friend ... Not everything we will have in chocolate, as in Crimea ...
                1. alexng
                  alexng 24 March 2014 01: 18
                  +1
                  You do not take into account one small detail, the residents of the Southeast will water them, and not support them. So these creatures will be under crossfire and they understand this very well. Now there is a regular show, for those who live on the right bank of the Dnieper, and in the east they have a small intestine, because their population does not support it at all.
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            3. kocclissi
              kocclissi 23 March 2014 21: 51
              +2
              This is a hint: we dug, and you dig in!
            4. Penzyac
              Penzyac 24 March 2014 02: 18
              0
              Quote: Koresh
              They even dug the ditch in the wrong direction)) Land towards Russia)) laughing


              Sabotage is also a weapon.
          2. GRANATE-19
            GRANATE-19 23 March 2014 20: 24
            +33
            Any sapper will say that this is a waste: money, fuel and equipment resource !!! Martyshkin labor!
            1. Koresh
              Koresh 23 March 2014 20: 32
              +17
              There is somehow an ambiguous subtext: the land towards Russia)) Take it I do not want to be called wink
            2. Penzyac
              Penzyac 24 March 2014 02: 27
              +1
              Quote: GRANATE-19
              Any sapper will say that this is a waste: money, fuel and equipment resource !!! Martyshkin labor!


              Monkey labor, made laugh. So in Kiev, the monkey and sits, like, working. laughing
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          4. novobranets
            novobranets 23 March 2014 20: 40
            +9
            Two charges of TNT and the soil will fall into place from where it was taken out. Every day, all the wonders and wonders.
            1. cerko
              cerko 23 March 2014 21: 38
              +8
              why spend if you can just let the bulldozer go forward
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 23 March 2014 21: 52
                +2
                You have to find a bulldozer somewhere else, tanks are not all with dumps, but TNT or "plasticine" is always at hand.
                1. maximus
                  maximus 23 March 2014 23: 25
                  +1
                  No, but we will jump into it and dig in it)
          5. predator.3
            predator.3 23 March 2014 20: 58
            +8
            What are there W.-4m. depth 2,5 of force width 1,5-2 m. depth-1,2-1,5 m.
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 23 March 2014 21: 12
              +7
              Quote: predator.3
              What are there W.-4m. depth 2,5 of force width 1,5-2 m. depth-1,2-1,5 m.

              Small size belay ? So this is a cattle cemetery, for those who ride and not ..... eh ... enough for them ... wink
            2. novobranets
              novobranets 23 March 2014 21: 57
              +3
              The money saved on a solarium will go to deepening your personal pocket.
              1. Nekarmadlen
                Nekarmadlen 24 March 2014 02: 40
                0
                Quote: novobranets
                The money saved on a solarium will go to deepening your personal pocket.


                No, he did not save them, laundered them, so now it is useless to arrest and release him on bail. He and his brother spent everything on a ditch! Everything that was acquired by overwork!
                1. novobranets
                  novobranets 24 March 2014 08: 39
                  0
                  Quote: Nekarmadlen
                  He and his brother spent everything on a ditch!

                  Then they will bury him there, many more fascists will enter there.
          6. builder
            builder 23 March 2014 22: 04
            +9
            "Great Ukrainian ditch"
            1. Penzyac
              Penzyac 24 March 2014 02: 33
              0
              Quote: stroitel
              "Great Ukrainian ditch"


              It must be entered in the Guinness Book of Records. laughing
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 24 March 2014 08: 41
                0
                Quote: PENZYAC
                It must be entered in the Guinness Book of Records

                Not, in the list of wonders of the world, protected by UNESCO. Taj Mahal, Great Wall of China, and Great Ukrainian Ditch. fellow
          7. Day 11
            Day 11 23 March 2014 23: 04
            +4
            Tryndets, it is in the 21st century that they want to stop with a ditch? How many babos did it take to dig this "barrier"? How many T-64s could be reanimated with this money? The level of idiocy is simply off scale!
          8. maximus
            maximus 23 March 2014 23: 23
            +1
            This is not for war, fishing worms dug up))
          9. jjj
            jjj 23 March 2014 23: 58
            +2
            Quote: zanoza
            Here is their main "weapon" now. Here, it seems, there were no losses wassat

            In the reports of the Donetsk governor, this ditch looks like 6 meters wide, 4 in depth and with an embankment another 2 meters. Comparing with the picture, you can quite accurately determine the percentage of posts in Ukraine. This is more than stealing on our roads at times
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 24 March 2014 00: 11
              +3
              Quote: jjj
              In the reports of the Donetsk governor, this ditch looks like 6 meters wide, 4 in depth and with an embankment another 2 meters. Comparing with the picture, you can quite accurately determine the percentage of posts in Ukraine. This is more than stealing on our roads at times

              It looks a lot like preparing a gas pipeline to the Crimea, bypassing nEzalEzhnoy ...
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          12. Fanat1984
            Fanat1984 24 March 2014 01: 57
            +1
            Well, yes, do not worry about the hungry people of the country? fool As if this trench tanks would stop ... No.

            Or maybe they are digging a trench for pipes (after all, they said that they were from the Sea of ​​Azov), they will pump water out of the Sea of ​​Azov, no matter how they got it ... laughing
        2. Penzyac
          Penzyac 24 March 2014 02: 03
          0
          Quote: 120352
          Yes, and small arms trunks wear out ...


          If you shoot from it, then it wears out, and if you do not shoot, it rusts ...
        3. mamont5
          mamont5 24 March 2014 04: 18
          0
          Quote: 120352
          Yes, and small arms trunks wear out ...

          Nah, how can they keep them 23, how they smeared them in Soviet times, put them in a rack, and didn’t touch them so that nothing would go wrong. And everything was in order. And now they’ve taken it right away ...
      8. olegff68
        olegff68 23 March 2014 20: 04
        +11
        Russia has a secret weapon, for how else can you explain:
        Artillerymen of the Western Military District entered the training grounds.

        And right away:
        The first Ukrainian tanks destroyed in Krivoy Rosh

        As a result of the howitzer explosion in the Kherson region ...

        in Nikolaev BMP blew up

        lol
        1. 0255
          0255 23 March 2014 20: 31
          +5
          Quote: olegff68
          Russia has a secret weapon, for how else can you explain:
          Artillerymen of the Western Military District entered the training grounds.

          And right away:
          The first Ukrainian tanks destroyed in Krivoy Rosh

          As a result of the howitzer explosion in the Kherson region ...

          in Nikolaev BMP blew up

          lol

          I think that at least 99,9% of West Ukrainian neo-fascists already consider these accidents with their technique m_skalskoy sabotage
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 23 March 2014 20: 55
            +6
            Quote: 0255
            Russia has a secret weapon, for how else can you explain:
            Artillerymen of the Western Military District entered the training grounds.

            And right away:
            The first Ukrainian tanks destroyed in Krivoy Rosh

            As a result of the howitzer explosion in the Kherson region ...

            in Nikolaev BMP blew up
            And what will happen if they also shoot. tongue
        2. I read the news
          I read the news 23 March 2014 23: 07
          +1
          The bomber fell.
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      9. zzz
        zzz 23 March 2014 20: 36
        +9
        Dear forum users! Just listened to D. Kiselyov, he told an interesting story. Of course, I didn’t know her (her age was not the same) ... But THIS IS NEEDED TO SEE AND KNOW AND BE Proud !!!!

        http://video.yandex.ru/users/vid4801/view/301/
        1. kocclissi
          kocclissi 23 March 2014 22: 02
          +5
          [media = http: //video.yandex.ua/users/vid4801/view/301/? ncrnd = 8646]This one seems to be more complete!
          1. zzz
            zzz 23 March 2014 22: 10
            +4
            kocclissi - thanks. I did not guess in YouTube to search! love

            I looked right several times !!!!
      10. poplar
        poplar 23 March 2014 20: 46
        +5
        Oh, they’d better dance gopak ...
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      12. Nick
        Nick 23 March 2014 21: 34
        +4
        The guys are sorry. By order of the impostors, the troops then raised ...
      13. super-vitek
        super-vitek 23 March 2014 22: 53
        +4
        If the best shooter is given a gun that has been lying in the rain for 23 years, he will first CHECK ITS TECHNICAL CONDITION, and only after inspection will he decide to shoot or not, because he is, in theory, a professional !!! And in the "army" there are apparently no such ones left! !!! I sympathize with the victims !!!
        1. Max otto
          Max otto 24 March 2014 00: 13
          0
          Look, it turns out that they have not fought yet, and losses are everywhere. It is enough for Russia to simply cross the border, well, go deeper by 1 km, half of their army will be immediately destroyed, and the rest will have to scatter in panic, because in the minority it makes no sense to fight.
          1. vagabundo55
            vagabundo55 24 March 2014 00: 52
            +3
            To fight against Russia and the pro-Russian East and South of Ukraine will not be Ukrainian troops but Bandera armed formations.
            by terrorist attacks, by the method of partisan war. They have a lot of weapons, experienced instructors, a lot of mercenaries from hot spots. Their ranks are growing. They will do anything, for example, they will poison the sources of drinking water, food. It was not for nothing that even the pros from the famous NKVD fought with " forest brothers "until 1955 (!). It means that you should not underestimate the capabilities of the neo-Nazi armed formations of the illegitimate government in Kiev ...
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            1. alexng
              alexng 24 March 2014 01: 36
              0
              In the Southeast, you will not be much of a partisan to feed them, and at the first outing for grubs they will be torn into rags, and no partisan training will help. Partisan war is possible only with the support of the population. So let the partisans in Western Ukraine, where nafig no one needs. Let the heroes be distributed and appropriated to each other there.
      14. Vittt
        Vittt 24 March 2014 00: 11
        +1
        Tumbleweed quote: "The army may be normal, but if the best shooter is given a gun that has been lying on the street in the rain for 23 years ..."

        Seriously? Can the army be normal? Jump off the pills. Even their secretary of defense says it's crazy !!!
        The guys who serve are sorry. Half of this army does not know how to cheat on this pseudo-Ukrainian army. A howitzer - to hell with her, with this howitzer, if only the kid remained alive!
        1. IGS
          IGS 24 March 2014 05: 45
          0
          You know, I don’t want to think about the bad, I hope that the boy just got scared and skerks somewhere, the main thing is not to be injured and not burned, otherwise there would be infection without doctors.
      15. Vi_RUS
        Vi_RUS 24 March 2014 01: 57
        +1
        Follow Syria, not Ukraine, everything is already clear with Ukraine, but in Syria the war begins!
        1. Tiamat2702
          Tiamat2702 24 March 2014 14: 11
          +1
          Quote: Vi_RUS
          Follow Syria, not Ukraine, everything is already clear with Ukraine, but in Syria the war begins!

          Guy, it looks like you slept for three years))))
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      17. Vi_RUS
        Vi_RUS 24 March 2014 02: 00
        -1
        Follow Syria and not Ukraine, everything is clear with Ukraine, but in Syria the war begins!
      18. VNP1958PVN
        VNP1958PVN 24 March 2014 02: 28
        0
        Rifle is already stolen request
      19. dmitrich
        dmitrich 24 March 2014 03: 24
        0
        stood on the ground all were alive, the plane was killed, now self-propelled.
      20. sergei tulun
        sergei tulun 24 March 2014 04: 55
        0
        ... the best shooter, before shooting, the gun will clean and bring to normal condition ...
  2. mamont5
    mamont5 23 March 2014 19: 08
    +38
    He said already, do not touch the equipment. It stands and let it stand. Life threatening.
    1. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 23 March 2014 19: 16
      +38
      Quote: mamont5
      He said already, do not touch the equipment. It stands and let it stand. Life threatening.

      A few more weeks will have to change the plan of the General Staff of Russia to force Ukraine to peace, change military units to units of the Ministry of Emergencies ...
      1. vlum
        vlum 23 March 2014 19: 31
        +9
        It may well be that there is a similar scenario (for the Ministry of Emergencies) - dangerous objects on the territory of Ukraine.

        ps Already flashed messages not only about the threats of deliberate provocations, but also about some unsuccessful attempt to change fuel cartridges at the South Ukrainian nuclear power plant.
        1. Dikson
          Dikson 23 March 2014 20: 27
          +4
          Unloading and loading fuel assemblies is actually a regular operation for NPP personnel ... I don’t think that amateurs work at Ukrainian NPPs ...
          1. tolancop
            tolancop 23 March 2014 23: 38
            +1
            Infa slipped about an attempt a year or two ago to refuel nuclear power plants with American fuel. To put it mildly, it did not work out.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 24 March 2014 00: 19
              +2
              Quote: tolancop
              Infa slipped about an attempt a year or two ago to refuel nuclear power plants with American fuel. To put it mildly, it did not work out.

              The Hungarians tried ... not so long ago. Then the Germans were called to correct what they had done. Then it dawned on - they called our specialists reluctantly. TVEL is not a toy ...
        2. GRANATE-19
          GRANATE-19 23 March 2014 20: 29
          +5
          Quote: vlum
          It may well be that there is a similar scenario (for the Ministry of Emergencies) - dangerous objects on the territory of Ukraine.

          ps Already flashed messages not only about the threats of deliberate provocations, but also about some unsuccessful attempt to change fuel cartridges at the South Ukrainian nuclear power plant.

          The most important thing is not to bring military equipment to nuclear power plants and other similar facilities! Otherwise, everything is Khan!
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        4. Tersky
          Tersky 23 March 2014 21: 24
          +7
          Quote: vlum
          nd, but also about some unsuccessful attempt to change fuel cartridges at the South Ukrainian NPP.

          Problems with fuel at the YuU NPP arose back in 2012. Yusch in 2005. wanted to reduce dependence on the purchase of nuclear fuel in Russia and entered into a supply contract with the US company Westinghouse, which supplies its products in an experiment called "In spite of Russia, we will arrange a new Chernobyl for ourselves", they are under examination, their mother ...
          1. Hey
            Hey 23 March 2014 22: 46
            +3
            Contact with this company is renewed.
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          1. Day 11
            Day 11 24 March 2014 01: 56
            +1
            Why do you always duplicate your posts? As for Ukrainian nuclear power plants, everything is in western Ukraine. Other people cover them there
        6. vagabundo55
          vagabundo55 24 March 2014 01: 29
          0
          Bandera’s can arrange a second Chernobyl at one of Ukraine’s nuclear power plants. In full. Why not? Let’s do it at the time when they realize that their authorities are coming to an end. Weapon of retaliation. I want to believe that all the most important facilities on the territory of South and East Ukraine is already under the control of our special forces. Indeed, as you have noticed, Putin is always ahead of the curve ...
      2. andrewvlg
        andrewvlg 23 March 2014 20: 18
        +4
        Quote: ziqzaq
        change military units to units of the Ministry of Emergencies

        And the Ministry of Emergencies units to strengthen 1 million orderlies, led by psychiatrists, a smaller outfit can not do.
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      4. vagabundo55
        vagabundo55 24 March 2014 01: 13
        0
        The Russian special forces, which recently captured the Ukrainian military unit in Belbek, are already active in Ukraine. FSB and GRU agents have flooded Ukraine. Rally in confrontation with neo-Nazi armed forces will be made on secret special operations on a large scale. The Russian army will be introduced in an emergency. After Afghanistan our special forces did not have the opportunity to practice in combat conditions. Large-scale. It's time. USA and other NATO countries are intensively using special forces around the world. And what are we worse?
    2. schizophrenic
      schizophrenic 23 March 2014 19: 21
      +13
      In the beginning, it is necessary to drive the equipment into the capital, but there is no money. In general, soldiers will be afraid to sit down for such equipment and combat efficiency will decrease.
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 23 March 2014 20: 04
        +15
        Quote: schizophrenic
        In the beginning, it is necessary to drive the equipment into the capital, but there is no money. In general, soldiers will be afraid to sit down for such equipment and combat efficiency will decrease.
      2. GRANATE-19
        GRANATE-19 23 March 2014 20: 31
        +2
        Quote: schizophrenic
        In the beginning, it is necessary to drive the equipment into the capital, but there is no money. In general, soldiers will be afraid to sit down for such equipment and combat efficiency will decrease.

        Her in general is not!
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      4. Combitor
        Combitor 23 March 2014 23: 43
        +3
        Quote: schizophrenic
        In the beginning, it is necessary to drive the equipment into the capital, but there is no money.

        Well, with the money "maydanutye" seem to have solved the problem. Recently I "went" to the site Censor.NET (though already as a visitor. "Banned" after the third comment), so there they reported an interesting know-how of the Kiev "authorities":
        <21.03.14 13:27
        Over the past 9 hours, another XNUMX million hryvnias have been received as part of the “Support the Ukrainian Army” campaign.
        As of 12.00:21 on March 33, more than XNUMX million hryvnias from legal entities and individuals as assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already arrived to the accounts of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine as part of the “Support the Ukrainian Army” campaign.
        Of this amount, 31 million 483 thousand hryvnias - money transfers to material and technical, the rest - to medical support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the press service of the Ministry of Defense reports, reports Censor.NET.
        In particular, with the help of calls to a single mobile number "565" in support of the Ukrainian army 7 million 390 thousand hryvnia were transferred (all - for the logistics of the Ukrainian Armed Forces)>.
        1. Fanat1984
          Fanat1984 24 March 2014 02: 27
          +2
          POZOOOOOOOOOOOR !!! And then what will happen? TAKE A MOUTH OF COMMUNICATORS AND FEED, AND THERE THERE IS NOTHING ... POSOOOR !!!
    3. Siberian19
      Siberian19 23 March 2014 19: 45
      +29
      Ukrainian air force!
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 23 March 2014 20: 25
        +5
        So most of them studied in the USSR, no? How to use K-36 everyone knows laughing
        1. ODERVIT
          ODERVIT 23 March 2014 22: 19
          +1
          Yes, K-36 can and can, but K-36DM may not be able to
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    4. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 23 March 2014 19: 59
      +12
      Quote: mamont5
      He said already, do not touch the equipment. It stands and let it stand. Life threatening.

      Urgent message:
      "During the change of the firing position from the commander of the self-propelled guns received a command - Who does not jump - ...deleted by moderator Apollo wassat
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 23 March 2014 20: 03
        0
        Quote: ziqzaq
        Who does not ride one -

        By the way, no one has canceled the VO rules. Could be limited to ellipsis.
        1. Tumbleweed
          Tumbleweed 23 March 2014 20: 10
          +5
          Quote: Apollon
          . Could be limited to ellipsis.

          And then the comment would look like this
          .. ..... ..... ....... ....... .. ......... ... .......... ...... - ... .. ...... ... - .......deleted by moderator Apollo wassat
          Apollo, everything is correct, banter is not addressed to you, but to the rules of the site, moderators need to go through an internship at the Censor ... there all comments would have disappeared on the site drinks
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 23 March 2014 20: 19
            0
            Quote: tumbleweed
            And then the comment would look like this

            Now I will give you a warning and it will not be funny anymore. I hope you understand me. The joke is absolutely inappropriate.
            1. Tumbleweed
              Tumbleweed 23 March 2014 20: 42
              +6
              Quote: Apollon
              Now I will give you a warning

              This is chantage? belay Which paragraph of the rules did I break? repeat You can find a reason for warnings in my other comments ... lol
              Quote: Apollon
              and it won't be funny anymore

              Well, my real life is separated from the virtual one, and therefore, if I’m exploding in a Sony PlayStation in a helicopter, then I don’t care, if on some website they put me out or get banned, it’s unpleasant for me, but it doesn’t do any harm ... hi
              Quote: Apollon
              .I hope you understand me

              Yes, I'm generally understandable in life drinks
              Quote: Apollon
              The joke is absolutely inappropriate.

              And it seems to me that a joke is always appropriate if it is not pronounced at a funeral ... There seems to be no funeral (from our side), and therefore "buried mother-in-law broke 3 bayans" does not work here

              Threat Ready to accept warning - earned soldier Someone moderates, someone comments hi
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          2. Combitor
            Combitor 24 March 2014 00: 15
            0
            Quote: tumbleweed
            there on the site all comments would disappear

            I "talked" a little on the Censor. There, almost all commentators have such a "maidan" in their heads in the minds of cockroaches, Mom, do not worry!
            Our moderator is an angel. If I had read what the "censor's" moderator was missing, I would have swallowed the "mouse".
            1. Day 11
              Day 11 24 March 2014 00: 20
              0
              I agree with you. On the Censor, the level of Russophobia is just going through the roof. It’s better to read it on the Correspondent.
              1. Combitor
                Combitor 24 March 2014 00: 40
                +2
                Quote: Den 11
                On the Censor, the level of Russophobia is just off scale.

                The level of Russophobia is not only "off scale" there. There lies have crossed all conceivable limits. Even comparing what the Western media (the same "Radio Liberty") and Censor.NET write about the same event, it is simply surprising how you can lie like that. And on the Censor, apparently, "hangs" mainly young people.
                Our answer to the "Censor":
              2. Tumbleweed
                Tumbleweed 24 March 2014 01: 13
                0
                Quote: Kombitor
                I "talked" a little on the Censor. There, almost all commentators have cockroaches in their heads

                Quote: Den 11
                I agree with you. On the Censor, the level of Russophobia is just going through the roof.


                And now I have printed neutral comments on this site, with only one wish that there was no Azerbaijani moderator on the Russian site and immediately deleted the warnings and comments ...
                Freedom of speech on the Russian website under the whip of Azerba ... and ... negative
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 24 March 2014 01: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: tumbleweed
                  Freedom of speech on the Russian website under the whip of Azerba ... and ...

                  My minus ...
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    5. sv68
      sv68 23 March 2014 19: 59
      +5
      the old army commandment-weapon loves caress-cleaning and lubrication, not for the Ukrainian army. alas
      1. Tumbleweed
        Tumbleweed 23 March 2014 20: 22
        +16
        Quote: sv68
        the old army commandment-weapon loves caress-cleaning and lubrication, not for the Ukrainian army. alas

        But let's remember the Russian army of the 90s, when the officers were thinking about how to feed the family, and not about how to educate and unite the unit, the soldiers were begging from the fences, the equipment was sold right and left ... Therefore, to the one who now counts behind the clave himself a great strategist and begins to tune the microscope to the Ukrainian army, it is worth thinking, but could he, half-starved, abandoned by the command, on an old and dilapidated equipment, portray a defender, don't understand why? Soldiers, sailors and officers of the Ukrainian army are not guilty of anything, they are trying to be used as hostages and "meat" in the game of politicians !!! Thanks to the prudence of the Ukrainian officers for understanding the situation !!! Even a 90-year ship, which is docked and unable to move, can do business ... And I think they are all with ammunition ... hi
        1. I do not care
          I do not care 23 March 2014 21: 06
          +9
          part of the article



          The Naval Radio Engineering Special Purpose Unit of the Ukrainian Navy (electronic reconnaissance, Sevastopol) ceased to exist. The deputy commander of the detachment, captain of the second rank, Andrey Ivanichenko, announced this on his Facebook. "Part of it was captured and destroyed. We must pay tribute to our invaders - about 100 special forces, armed with weapons that I saw only in computer games: SVD," elephant breakers ", grenade launchers, machine guns with tricky things in the form of collimator and optical sights," Fly " And all this for my 30 automatic rifles with 25 rounds for each. Everything was cultural, in a secular way: they poked machine guns in the nose, got nervous together, hit the ground in an American manner, with instant entrenchment. ! Everything is cultural. A little shit, they gave 30 minutes to take out the uniform, hung up the tricolor. The electronic intelligence center of the Ukrainian Navy ceased to exist. Hey, who needs a janitor with 3 higher educations?) There are no signals from the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, "wrote the Ukrainian officer
          Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-141728.html
          1. UREC
            UREC 23 March 2014 22: 01
            +4
            I think such a "janitor" is suitable for the Russian army if the Ukrainian does not need it!
          2. tolancop
            tolancop 23 March 2014 23: 45
            0
            Strange ammunition: 25 rounds per barrel. Even the whole store is not recruited. IMHO, another indicator of the state of the APU.
            1. Gamdlislyam
              Gamdlislyam 24 March 2014 09: 44
              +1
              Quote: tolancop
              Strange ammunition: 25 rounds per barrel.

              He served in the Soviet border troops in Soviet times. According to the instructions, stores were equipped with 25 rounds. Apparently, in the special forces detachment of the Ukrainian Navy (electronic intelligence, Sevastopol) there were instructions and instructions from the time of the USSR.
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        3. vagabundo55
          vagabundo55 24 March 2014 01: 36
          0
          You say it right. Here Bandera will arrange a couple of terrorist attacks, and some gearworms will pull down ...
  3. awg75
    awg75 23 March 2014 19: 09
    +13
    a grenade in the hands of a monkey is scary, first of all, for a monkey
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 23 March 2014 19: 22
      +21
      Quote: awg75
      a grenade in the hands of a monkey is scary, first of all, for a monkey

      especially if the monkey from the Maidan !!!
      Although I do not exclude that the "experts" will come to the conclusion that they were Putin's saboteurs !!!!
      1. Tumbleweed
        Tumbleweed 23 March 2014 19: 28
        +15
        Quote: Egoza
        Although I do not exclude that the "experts" will come to the conclusion that they were Putin's saboteurs !!!!

        I'll tell you a secret it was Putin himself, but shh, don't tell anyone. While the doppelganger provides an alibi in the Kremlin, Vladimir Vladimirovich decided to "shake off the old days" and captures ships, blows up howitzers, pulls out the runway in front of the plane and burns tanks ... What will happen next, because his imagination is unlimited wassat
        1. Berkut-UA
          Berkut-UA 23 March 2014 23: 18
          +1
          well, direct the script for the new James Bond in Ukraine
      2. OST_51RU
        OST_51RU 23 March 2014 21: 12
        +2
        No need to gloat ..... and we have enough.
        We still do not know the cause of the Kursk's death - either malicious intent, or stupid theft of control devices, or human stupidity.
        As I understand it, most of them came across something similar during the dashing 90s, when non-ferrous metals were accepted near the entrance, and the military was not paid a salary for half a year. And it’s located, that is, it’s stealing the materiel, and as a result, an accident .....
        We seem to have it in the past, and in Ukraine - their harsh everyday life.
    2. maximus
      maximus 24 March 2014 00: 00
      0
      Quote: awg75
      a grenade in the hands of a monkey is scary, first of all, for a monkey

      Not always))
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6PV-wUoPPI&feature=player_detailpage
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      2. vagabundo55
        vagabundo55 24 March 2014 01: 59
        0
        If the monkey is trained, then with a grenade it is dangerous for its opponent.
  4. sinukvl
    sinukvl 23 March 2014 19: 09
    +40
    The Ukrainian army has not yet begun hostilities, but is already suffering losses, that week, during the march of a column near Nikolaev, an infantry fighting vehicle caught fire and exploded (judging by the photo from the fire, the ammunition detonated) today in Dnepropetrovsk, two or three tanks caught fire and exploded. And in the box where this happened, there were still tanks. Yesterday the Su-24 crashed during the landing approach. Now the howitzer exploded during firing practice. It looks like in Ukraine military equipment is in such a state that if they stretch out their "maneuvers" for another couple of weeks, they will be left with one single Maidan catapult, and even that is broken. In order to bring the army into a more or less normal state, you first need to bring the economy to life, and not drive it into a comatose, otherwise, no matter how. But with bringing the economy to a normal state, the maydanutyh have problems, they do not raise their economy, but rather bring them down. So in the near future, the Army of Ukraine will have one name and fighters with clubs.
    But the children are sorry, suffered because of the grief of the fathers of the commanders.
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 23 March 2014 21: 40
      +3
      matches should be banned from selling in Ukraine, otherwise they will burn themselves and the Russians will not get anything.
  5. homosum20
    homosum20 23 March 2014 19: 11
    +2
    mamont5, let them practice. We will have less.
  6. shelva
    shelva 23 March 2014 19: 12
    +10
    Then their tanks explode, now howitzers - maybe the Ukrainian military shouldn't touch weapons at all ?, "matches are not a game for children."
    1. 120352
      120352 23 March 2014 20: 06
      +4
      Gentlemen, you do not understand! This is a new way of desertion, a favorite occupation of the army of a neighboring state. They specifically teach this!
      1. avg
        avg 23 March 2014 21: 28
        +2
        On the Crimean peninsula and on the eastern border with Ukraine, Russia accumulates military equipment and weapons intended exclusively for offensive operations.
        This was stated by former First Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Admiral Igor Kabanenko on the BTB television channel on Saturday.

        Will their admirals ever end? request
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 24 March 2014 00: 25
          +1
          Quote: avg
          Will their admirals ever end?

          Atelier for the manufacture of chevrons has stopped accepting orders for the manufacture of admiral epaulets due to a lack of production capacity laughing
        2. mamont5
          mamont5 24 March 2014 05: 42
          0
          Quote: avg
          Will their admirals ever end? request

          It seems that they have an overproduction of admirals with an almost complete absence of a fleet.
  7. Salamander
    Salamander 23 March 2014 19: 12
    +42
    Ukrainian crews are fighting fiercely with their equipment. wassatLosses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: T-64BV - 6 pcs. MSTA-S - 1 pc. Su-24M - 1 pc. BTR-3 - 2 pcs. Ukrainian Navy - 96%. And we haven’t even shot it yet.
    1. Tuzik
      Tuzik 23 March 2014 20: 44
      +5
      Ukrainian crews are fighting fiercely with their equipment.
      wept
      1. 120352
        120352 23 March 2014 23: 32
        +1
        Technology is constantly winning!
    2. I read the news
      I read the news 24 March 2014 00: 43
      +1
      BMP? - 2 pcs.
  8. polite people
    polite people 23 March 2014 19: 13
    +5
    It's only the beginning. The technink will die for them. True, they have something. But I think our specialists will figure it out. Here's what to do with the MAYDOWNS on drugs. For them, the words GLORY TO UKRAINE as a portion of heroin. With him and what to do.
    1. Dimkin
      Dimkin 23 March 2014 19: 22
      +4
      And what do they do with a patient who is dying? wink
    2. dmikras
      dmikras 23 March 2014 19: 28
      +2
      treat but very neatly
    3. Vyacheslav 64
      Vyacheslav 64 23 March 2014 19: 41
      +2


      It's only the beginning. The technink will die for them. True, they have something. But I think our specialists will figure it out. Here's what to do with the MAYDOWNS on drugs. For them, the words GLORY TO UKRAINE as a portion of heroin. With him and what to do.

      Send doctors with a bitter medicine to them.
    4. 120352
      120352 23 March 2014 20: 08
      +2
      It is necessary to mobilize their blown up (and not only) equipment to steel mills to drag. Manually. This will be a thrill!
    5. Ramzes
      Ramzes 23 March 2014 20: 17
      +4
      "Glory to Ukraine!" they have already become exactly the same as "Allah Akbar!" among terrorists of a certain religious orientation.
    6. coserg 2012
      coserg 2012 23 March 2014 21: 06
      +2
      And didn’t you try it? They say an effective remedy.
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    8. vagabundo55
      vagabundo55 24 March 2014 02: 13
      0
      That's right. Our special forces will talk with Bandera.
      Troops will be introduced as a last resort. It is necessary to send our intelligence agents into the ranks of the armed "maydauns" and eliminate the ringleaders. then the turn will come to enter the Russian army ...
  9. delfinN
    delfinN 23 March 2014 19: 15
    +6
    That is what combat training has not been for 23 years. Honor remained - skills are gone. I wanted to say about the downed civilian - I will not say anything.
  10. Apollo
    Apollo 23 March 2014 19: 16
    +8
    quote-During the exercises in a certain area of ​​the Kherson region during a change in firing position, a fire of a self-propelled howitzer 2С19 of one of the military units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces occurred, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reports.

    That tanks explode now now self-propelled guns. winked
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 23 March 2014 20: 43
      +1
      For them, the class that all this exploded inside the self-propelled guns. And self-propelled guns survived all this.
  11. vlum
    vlum 23 March 2014 19: 17
    +6
    This is not yet an investigation record of what happened. Most likely, the survivors are also accused of sabotage and imprisoned, plainly not even understanding.
  12. Leshka
    Leshka 23 March 2014 19: 18
    +12
    not an army but a club of young pyrotechnics laughing
    1. GRANATE-19
      GRANATE-19 23 March 2014 23: 19
      0
      Quote: Leshka
      not an army but a club of young pyrotechnics laughing

      I would say to YOUNG NATURALISTS (such a magazine was in the USSR), we decided to go out in the wild to watch the birds, but they couldn’t handle the transport! (But I really feel sorry for them, it’s a grief for mothers.) With respect, I express my humble opinion.
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  13. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 23 March 2014 19: 19
    +9
    How did he go? Where did he go? Or killed or wounded. What should have remained of him. Yes, and order in the tank troops.
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 23 March 2014 19: 45
      +10
      Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
      How did it go? Where did it go?


      I would like to believe that I "disappeared" to Crimea, myself, while alive and well)))
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 23 March 2014 20: 00
        +4
        Quote: gfs84
        I would like to believe that I "disappeared" to Crimea, myself, while alive and well)))

        Your words to God in the ears ...
    2. Jin
      Jin 23 March 2014 19: 55
      +4
      Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
      . What should have been left of him.


      In our unit, from the first Chechen one, there were three fighters who were missing, at that time, two years have passed ... The crew of the tank, from which (the tank) remained the front armor plate and the tower found behind the five-story building ... it is not yet clear what happened there (well, from what exactly the tank died, the RPG or what "own" bastard bomb flew in), but nothing remained of the guys ... missing.
      1. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 23 March 2014 20: 45
        +1
        It can not be.
        1. Jin
          Jin 23 March 2014 21: 20
          +1
          Quote: Patriot.ru.
          It can not be.


          Are you talking about my comment? And then somehow they wrote under mine, and what cannot be and why, I absolutely do not understand ... or concretize or do not write this: "this cannot be, because this cannot be" ... a verbal bunch into a puddle, sorry, it turns out ...
    3. GRANATE-19
      GRANATE-19 23 March 2014 23: 46
      0
      Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
      How did he go? Where did he go? Or killed or wounded. What should have remained of him. Yes, and order in the tank troops.

      SPGs didn’t explode in my presence, but I saw how tanks explode: when a full ammunition battery instantly detonates on landmines, a tank tears to shreds (I didn’t believe it was an infantry fighting vehicle at first, but I understood from the thickness of the wreckage, the diameter of the rollers and the diameter of the axles), the tower weighs 13 tons flew into the field for 30 meters. They say the crew fit into the OZK stocking; if they are knocked out from a grenade launcher and the ammunition launcher is not intact, then I saw (it was in the light of the BMP headlight) two were torn to pieces the size of a fist, the third was completely burned beyond recognition and did not see where the tower was, but one side disappeared, the tank burst into the ground. So if a fighter is mentally not "got on the skis" then he should be found in any condition. ETERNAL MEMORY TO THE HEROES OF TANKISTS !!! With respect, I express my humble opinion.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 24 March 2014 00: 09
        +3
        Here’s the detonation of BC on self-propelled guns in Chechnya. Eternal memory to the boys
        1. nizrum
          nizrum 24 March 2014 14: 03
          0
          ... there’s nothing even to send home ...
          "Evaporated" takes on a special, ominous meaning ...
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    5. Old shoe
      Old shoe 24 March 2014 06: 11
      0
      Hopefully I just escaped to the noise. If not - sorry kid :(
  14. nizrum
    nizrum 23 March 2014 19: 19
    +6
    Headings of course)))
    As a result of the explosion disappeared ... chtoli evaporated? Felts killed and hide, felts fled to the noise ....
    1. 120352
      120352 23 March 2014 20: 11
      +2
      Made a noise and fled.
  15. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 23 March 2014 19: 20
    +20
    Well done, they were not afraid to put out .. brave guys! The fourth must have died my condolences ..
  16. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 23 March 2014 19: 20
    +5
    They are not fighting, and the losses in technology are no longer small.
  17. vallbog
    vallbog 23 March 2014 19: 21
    +9
    sorry for the guys suffer due to the fact that neither the experience nor combat training, nor money, and even the fathers of the commanders, I wonder who prepared the canned equipment?
  18. Watchman
    Watchman 23 March 2014 19: 21
    +9
    This is what I understand the army! Perhaps for the first time since 1992, cars were rolled out of the boxes.
    1. I read the news
      I read the news 23 March 2014 23: 15
      +2
      Not certainly in that way.
      All that could be sold since 1992 - sold.
      And they try to roll out what remains.
  19. Siberian19
    Siberian19 23 March 2014 19: 21
    +6
    so the thing will go Ukrainian army will destroy itself! fool
    1. vlum
      vlum 23 March 2014 19: 36
      +4
      Well, if only yourself, but how they get into something in the city or into some kind of ammunition depot or a tank with hazardous materials.
      1. vagabundo55
        vagabundo55 24 March 2014 02: 18
        0
        You think right. Bandera will go over to guerrilla warfare. They have no other choice. Who pays, he orders music ...
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        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 24 March 2014 02: 32
          +1
          Quote: vagabundo55
          You think right

          Native ... Clear the history of the braz, or something ... I, as you read, began to stutter laughing
  20. konvalval
    konvalval 23 March 2014 19: 22
    +8
    Guys, of course, sorry. But this is an example. It’s better not to touch this technique now.
  21. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 23 March 2014 19: 23
    +7
    This is all * M * O * S * K * A * L * And they are to blame, they will say from the habit of the mass media, ............. sorry for the boys, of course, they have to pay health and lives for the fascist junta!
  22. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 23 March 2014 19: 23
    +7
    And there were definitely military men there, and not banderlogs? So many emergency situations in three days, and knowing the army’s habit of hiding incidents, I’m sure this is only a small part! But for even a few trained soldiers, this is too much!
  23. boozer
    boozer 23 March 2014 19: 24
    +4
    Meaningless losses! Humanly sorry for the guys, they are not to blame for the fact that the Ukrainian army is in such a state. But someone brought her to this? Sound military and law-abiding citizens of Ukraine should reflect on this issue! Or is Russia to blame again?
  24. Dimkin
    Dimkin 23 March 2014 19: 24
    +4
    The one who is not likely to be accused of sabotage is guilty, undermined the morale of the army and leaked to an unknown destination
  25. Artem1967
    Artem1967 23 March 2014 19: 25
    +5
    The howitzer is still of Soviet production. It's good if the storage was serviced according to the rules. But, worst of all, what is the condition of their ammunition? There can be any surprises here, especially in the clumsy hands of the new "heroes of Independence". In short, a couple of weeks of maneuvers by the Ukrainian army = one day of real combat.
  26. Yemelya
    Yemelya 23 March 2014 19: 28
    +14
    Four crew members were urgently evacuated to a safe place. The search for another crew member continues.


    There are only 4 crew members in "Akatsia".

    Who are you looking for?

    They will search until they look at TTX fool
    1. boozer
      boozer 23 March 2014 19: 33
      +2
      All documentation for the campaign was burned in accordance with the directive ...
    2. dmikras
      dmikras 23 March 2014 19: 35
      +2
      Well, if only such a SU-152G (although they write that it was not mass-produced) http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%A3-152%D0%93
    3. Tumbleweed
      Tumbleweed 23 March 2014 19: 36
      +17
      Quote: Emelya
      There are only 4 crew members in "Akatsia". Who are you looking for?

      Commissioner from the "Right Sector" wassat
    4. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 23 March 2014 19: 40
      +5
      Quote: Emelya
      There are only 4 crew members in "Akatsia".
      Who are you looking for?

      assigned to the crew of Maydan’s
      1. Anatolich
        Anatolich 23 March 2014 19: 41
        +4
        Yeah, they are looking for a commissioner, pants can be found on a neighboring birch.
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 23 March 2014 21: 03
          +4
          Quote: Anatolich
          yeah the commissioner is looking for

          Instead of shelling, he was shoved into the barrel.
    5. lexa-xa
      lexa-xa 23 March 2014 20: 02
      +2
      Crew, people-5 (7 people when shooting from the ground)
    6. muhomor
      muhomor 23 March 2014 20: 16
      +3
      According to the message, MST-S exploded. And in the photo "Akatsiya" Actually, they are preparing seriously, even at firing, the ammunition is not unloaded.
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    8. niki233
      niki233 23 March 2014 21: 54
      +1
      observer from the right sector yes
  27. Anatolich
    Anatolich 23 March 2014 19: 30
    +5
    To learn the crew of a combat fighting vehicle, it takes time, and more than one month, if not a year, it is necessary that every movement is done automatically. It went through when he served in 201 MSD on the BTR-80. And there are self-propelled guns and tanks, and this is even more difficult. We all saw the tank biathlon, we can say the best crews of the Russian army and then how many mistakes were made. And then they mobilized and immediately to the equipment. 100% there will be more than one state of emergency and there will be pressure on each other and fires and explosions. On one enthusiasm, you can only run with a gun, and then you need to learn and observe safety, and what kind of security does patriotism play in your head.
    1. vlum
      vlum 23 March 2014 19: 44
      +2
      Moreover, patriotism plays in the head of the authorities and the commissioner maydanuty. A soldier is simply a hostage to the situation.
  28. kelevra
    kelevra 23 March 2014 19: 30
    +1
    Before conducting the exercises, it was necessary to conduct a complete diagnostics of the equipment. So much time was inactive and suddenly the exercises fell on you, failures!
  29. UREC
    UREC 23 March 2014 19: 31
    +15
    Sorry for the Ukrainian boys, the demobilization was canceled because of the Maydauns, there was nothing to eat in the army - but the last solarium was burned for "maneuvers". I live 13 km from the border with Ukraine, aunts (Ukrainian women) from Volchansk carry Ukrainian sausage and vodka (there it is TWO times cheaper than Russian), so they say that Ukrainian conscripts dig a moat along the border with us, and in the evening they go in the courtyards asking for food from the population! Damn, I feel sorry for the guys nah. such an army and country?
    1. boozer
      boozer 23 March 2014 19: 36
      +7
      Catapult, shields, batons, now here is the moat. Damn, do they even understand what century it is now?
      1. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 23 March 2014 20: 11
        +7
        Quote: boozer
        Catapult, shields, batons, now here is the moat. Damn, do they even understand what century it is now?

        They don’t even understand what planet they are on! Have you not heard of the warriors of Narnia ?!
        And this is one of the elite units of the Ukrainian Military Revolutionary Military Council! request
  30. uhu189
    uhu189 23 March 2014 19: 34
    +4
    But somehow Ukraine manages to sell its equipment, and after all they buy it, and nothing explodes. Or it turns out that they have one thing for sale, and another thing for their own army ... And the impression is that everyone doesn’t care. No investigations, no conclusions - nothing at all. The tanks burned down - and to hell with them ... The bomber fell - well, it happens. Enough already?
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 23 March 2014 20: 57
      +3
      Quote: uhu189
      for sale - one thing, but for your own army - quite another ...

      it goes on sale either from the factory or overhauled with the replacement of all gaskets, tubes, rubber bands, and its storage and costs are maintained on paper.
    2. UREC
      UREC 23 March 2014 22: 05
      0
      All that can be sold is sold, it’s necessary to eat! And why modernize your army - Geyropa will correct and help everything.
  31. ZU-23
    ZU-23 23 March 2014 19: 35
    +1
    God immediately punished only criminal and bloodthirsty thoughts.
  32. Shadow1
    Shadow1 23 March 2014 19: 36
    +4
    Quote: Artem1967
    The howitzer is still of Soviet production. It's good if the storage was serviced according to the rules. But, worst of all, what is the condition of their ammunition? There can be any surprises here, especially in the clumsy hands of the new "heroes of Independence". In short, a couple of weeks of maneuvers by the Ukrainian army = one day of real combat.

    One hour of fighting! Particularly pleased with the camouflage of tree branches and the interval between machines, that they have not read the instructions for the combat use of self-propelled guns?
  33. Anatolich
    Anatolich 23 March 2014 19: 38
    +2
    I think their army is in full disaster now, they’ll quickly recruit meat, but there’s probably not enough specialists who will teach them there.
  34. Krsk
    Krsk 23 March 2014 19: 38
    +2
    In fact, God forbid that everything would end well, after all, it’s not Yatsenyuk that the same people as everyone else were burning with the rest of the scum, they are the last to blame for what is happening in Ukraine now. So health to them ...
  35. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 23 March 2014 19: 40
    +2
    With this skill, the troops on the march will not exceed combat losses.
  36. 77bob1973
    77bob1973 23 March 2014 19: 40
    +3
    Typically, such troubles occur after removing the equipment from storage, the maintenance of which is practically not carried out. The service life of any isolation is 10 years, then the card will lie down.
  37. techmesh
    techmesh 23 March 2014 19: 42
    +3
    Not only are the fighters not trained, the equipment is not prepared, but there are probably no new ammunition. The old ones had to be disposed of for a long time, but they shoot them.
    1. vagabundo55
      vagabundo55 24 March 2014 02: 24
      0
      Here Bandera and utilize them with the help of terrorist attacks. Military warehouses in their hands.
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  38. Monk
    Monk 23 March 2014 19: 42
    +4
    The army of Ukraine is self-destructing.
    1. 120352
      120352 23 March 2014 23: 37
      0
      Elementary ZUG ZWANG
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  40. shurik
    shurik 23 March 2014 19: 47
    +2
    Quote: Apollon
    quote-During the exercises in a certain area of ​​the Kherson region during a change in firing position, a fire of a self-propelled howitzer 2С19 of one of the military units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces occurred, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reports.

    That tanks explode now now self-propelled guns. winked

    Take, for example, a fire in a tank brigade in Krivoy Rog, during which 2 tanks exploded and three more tanks burned down. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense, "the cause of the fire was a short circuit in the radio station R-123 when checking the connection between the two T-64BV tanks that were in storage." On one of the tanks, when the radio was turned on, a fire occurred in the electrical wiring because of it, I quote "physical deterioration."

    Horror! Where to hide?
    1. Genry
      Genry 23 March 2014 21: 00
      +4
      Do you seriously believe that the P-123 could burn the tank. Even if the fuses are replaced by jumpers, with a short circuit in the power supply, the power connector or internal wire in the power supply will burn out and that's it. The station itself is like an aluminum ingot with light bulbs. There is nothing to burn.
      I worked as a radio mechanic, a couple of years, in the military unit, in the team for their repair.
      1. kocclissi
        kocclissi 23 March 2014 22: 12
        0
        But what if you pour water? Is it by accident? It will not catch fire too? So we don’t trust Russian accidents, we’ll do everything for sure! Not like those ..... who are not good people in the parliament!
      2. Hey
        Hey 23 March 2014 22: 58
        0
        Do you believe that a TV can burn an apartment?
        All aluminum boxes are burning, such fireworks, Chinese in no comparison.
        And another misfortune of stagnant technology is the mouse. Although they add different crap to the isolation.
    2. Korolev
      Korolev 23 March 2014 23: 14
      +2
      ALL WRONG. THE CASE IS NOT THAT THE TANKS ARE BURNED, BUT THOSE UNDER THE NOISE OF THREE TANKS WITH THE FUEL OF THE JV .... OR.
  41. 120352
    120352 23 March 2014 19: 48
    +1
    And maybe the cause and effect should be interchanged: 1) a crew member disappeared; 2) howitzer exploded.
    On, but in general. the system is looming. First tanks, then plane, now self-propelled. So, you see, they themselves will plunder all heavy weapons, while they are panting about an attack on Russia.
  42. pvv113
    pvv113 23 March 2014 19: 49
    +13
    Quote: boozer
    All documentation for the campaign was burned in accordance with the directive ...
    IN UKRAINE IN THE LIGHT OF THE FIGHT AGAINST THE RUSSIAN LANGUAGE AT ONE TIME ATTEMPTED TO TRANSLATE ALL TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION TO THE UKRAINIAN LANGUAGE. MAY THEN AND LET'S OVERLOOK
  43. shurik
    shurik 23 March 2014 19: 53
    +5
    Quote: 120352
    And maybe the cause and effect should be interchanged: 1) a crew member disappeared; 2) howitzer exploded.
    On, but in general. the system is looming. First tanks, then plane, now self-propelled. So, you see, they themselves will plunder all heavy weapons, while they are panting about an attack on Russia.

    In order not to shoot on their own, it is better to undermine.
    1. UREC
      UREC 23 March 2014 22: 08
      +1
      You need to shoot at those who brewed it all!
      1. 120352
        120352 23 March 2014 23: 41
        +1
        It is better to give them a rope, a nail, a hammer and a bar of soap. To quietly depart.
  44. TiGRoO
    TiGRoO 23 March 2014 19: 53
    +36
    Details of the capture of the project 773 U401 "Kirovograd" medium landing craft by the GRU Armed Forces of the Russian Federation became known. For more than 20 hours, the successive Russian special forces shouted to the Ukrainian sailors in the loudspeaker the command “Who can’t stop - .................. removed by the moderator Apollon After 20 hours, the exhausted sailors and officers were loaded in trucks and sent to the hospital
    1. Saratovets
      Saratovets 23 March 2014 23: 00
      +3
      How cruel! it's torture!
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 24 March 2014 00: 31
        +1
        Quote: Saratovets
        How cruel! it's torture!

        And what? Has Ban Ki-moon not arrived yet?
  45. Koresh
    Koresh 23 March 2014 19: 59
    +17
    This is a parody of the Army ...
    I saw how our soldiers were outfitted near the Belarusian border, built on a parade ground with all their weapons, declared a combat mission and lined up and loaded onto a trolley with a harnessed horse and went off in an unknown direction on a wagon))) It's a pity I didn’t take off the camera ... well, Budyon’s division was direct )))
    1. 120352
      120352 23 March 2014 23: 45
      0
      And where did they get the horse? Not Belarus neighbors stolen?
  46. Siberian19
    Siberian19 23 March 2014 20: 00
    +7
    it’s better to set fire to tanks than to shoot from brothers! laughing
  47. Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 23 March 2014 20: 01
    +6
    ... so with the kid, if he died, say so, if you fled, then in the current situation in Ukraine, I am happy for him ...
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 23 March 2014 20: 42
      +6
      Yeah, teleported to Russia from this life. In general, it hurts for the boys. Well, at least the pilots managed to eject from the "dive" bomber. It’s necessary to bring the army to such a state! No, Ukraine can never become a sovereign state.
  48. serg2.72
    serg2.72 23 March 2014 20: 01
    +2
    After such miracles, it becomes scary for passenger aircraft, all the more precedents have already been.
    1. vst6
      vst6 23 March 2014 20: 53
      +3
      So ours are already bypassing Ukraine.
  49. Vadim12
    Vadim12 23 March 2014 20: 02
    +2
    Is Putin again to blame?
  50. Kazanec
    Kazanec 23 March 2014 20: 03
    +4
    Some kind of madhouse. Maybe these emergency situations (and probably not the last ones) will affect the personnel of UA and indeed many will go home?
    1. 120352
      120352 23 March 2014 23: 48
      0
      Of course go! 1. Nobody wants to fight with brothers, except for loonies. 2. Psychos will not fight on anything. Yes, and probably nothing. In addition to small arms.
      1. VNP1958PVN
        VNP1958PVN 24 March 2014 02: 33
        0
        Small arms have already been stolen. Only in the East, residents guard their arsenals on their own. Tilka for sebe.