Gubarev - President of Ukraine!

I propose to those who are guarding Pavel Gubarev: take the plunge and free Pavel Gubarev!

What is happening in Ukraine now is the formation of a fascist state. States, the wreckage of which will bury and Yarosh, and Tyagnibok, and Yatsenyuk. Of stories it is known that such states do not live long. They are destroyed either from the outside or from the inside.

Therefore, I, a simple Russian citizen, appeal to the leaders of the opposition in Ukraine: GIVE FREEDOM GUBAREV! Give him the opportunity to leave the martyr and take the east of Ukraine with him to a separate state!

This will allow you to save face in world politics. You will probably get money from the West. Minus is small: you get rid of those citizens who consider you fascists. As a result, you can probably build a state in which you will be leaders.

When the world became bipolar, you had to choose your side. We know what this side is.

All western Ukraine will support you.

Free Gubarev! This way you save yourself and your political weight. Let the east of Ukraine leave you, but you will become the leaders of a single country! Believe me, then the whole Western world will have to invest in you, because you will become the face of the West. You will become subjects of world politics, and perhaps B. Obama and A. Merkel will come to you for consultations!

Comments

[mamont5]

I suggest exchanging Gubarev for Novodvorskaya. She is all with their giblets.

"Valeria Novodvorskaya, who calls herself a human rights activist, recorded a video message to activists of the Right Sector, in which she calls on them to actively influence the new Ukrainian government in order to confront Russia."
http://supermnenie.mirtesen.ru/blog/43832073958/Novodvorskaya-prizvala-Pravyiy-s
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[domokl]

Alas, the Ukrainian authorities will not do this ... It is very likely that there is no one to change ... Organizing a heart attack, attempting to escape or suicide is not a problem ...

[AVV]

Quote: domokl

Alas, the Ukrainian authorities will not do this ... It is very likely that there is no one to change ... Organizing a heart attack, attempting to escape or suicide is not a problem ...

They end up like Hitler and nothing else !!!

[Patton5]

They end up like Hitler and nothing else !!!

Hitler shot himself, but these, I’m sure, have a thin gut .... rather, they will end like Berezovsky (dreams of a dream where your sweetness is)

[Day 11]

Are you sure that Birch is in the land of "eternal hunting"? I personally do not!

[thrower]

Also, doubts are plagued by this fact.

[Patton5]

Are you sure that Birch is in the land of "eternal hunting"

No, of course, but I want to believe !!!!

[afdjhbn67]

for Hitler there isn’t enough scale ..

[skeptic]

Quote: domokl

Alas, the Ukrainian authorities will not do this ... It is very likely that there is no one to change ... Organizing a heart attack, attempting to escape or suicide is not a problem ...

If you believe the media, then there was information, after torture and beatings, Gubarev fell into a coma, but doctors were not allowed to see him.

[revnagan]

Quote: domokl

Alas, the Ukrainian authorities will not do this ...

Of course, they need ALL of Ukraine! To give up the industrial East for them is like death. They are like Sharikov: “And where am I going to eat ?!” They have long described the roles in the new, “own” Ukraine - the East is plowing, Galicia is in charge. they do not agree to something else.

[kolyhalovs]

This is inhumane! Why are you so bad about Ukraine?

[SHILO]

Quote: kolyhalovs

This is inhumane! Why are you so bad about Ukraine?

I put you +. Lord Have you seen him? I have seen. And he was talking. This is a boy with cereal in his head. A lot of ambition for which zero.

[Manul]

Quote: SHILO

I put you +. Lord Have you seen him? I have seen. And he was talking. This is a boy with cereal in his head. A lot of ambition for which zero.

And I put a minus to you. That is, the youth of perception with ambitions, which, moreover, is only your personal opinion, do you consider a sufficient reason for keeping a person in torture chambers, beatings and God forbid fatalities?

[SHILO]

Quote: Manul

And I put a minus to you. That is, the youth of perception with ambitions, which, moreover, is only your personal opinion, do you consider a sufficient reason for keeping a person in torture chambers, beatings and God forbid fatalities?

Bet. I didn't count on anything else. Only from what you wrote, I did not write and did not think. He only wrote that it is not worth putting someone without becoming one of the "leaders". And that's it!

[Manul]

Quote: SHILO

Bet. I didn't count on anything else. Only from what you wrote, I did not write and did not think. He only wrote that it is not worth putting someone without becoming one of the "leaders". And that's it!

I had no desire to offend you. But firstly people need a leader and a symbol. Whether he is worthy of the president or not does not depend on our personal opinions, but depends on the election program and the will of the voters. It just seems to me blasphemous to accuse a person of “stupidity” when he is for the aspirations of the people, he is in prison under torture, and maybe on the brink of death. I don’t want to think that already.

[skeptic]

Quote: SHILO

Bet. I didn't count on anything else. Only from what you wrote, I did not write and did not think. He only wrote that it is not worth putting someone without becoming one of the "leaders". And that's it!

Probably at the time of Danko, there were also those who did not like how he told them that he had given his heart in order to bring people out of the darkness. Is it foolish like that?

[atalef]

Quote: SHILO

Lord Have you seen him? I have seen. And he was talking. This is a boy with cereal in his head. A lot of ambition for which zero.

Why zero, I think he has a lot of ideas.
Then Ukraine will definitely become fascist

[Day 11]

Sanya, this is a fake! You can look through the articles on VO --- someone laid out the rationale (hell, I really don’t remember who and when) with real photos

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

Sanya, this is a fake! You can look through the articles on VO --- someone laid out the rationale (hell, I really don’t remember who and when) with real photos

Hi Denis, I hope you're right.

[Day 11]

Hi Sanya! You are a smart person --- NOBODY would bet on a person with a "dark" past! There is an info-war between us and them! Do not be fooled by any bullshit!

[alone]

Quote: Den 11

Hi Sanya! You are a smart person --- NOBODY would bet on a person with a "dark" past! There is an info-war between us and them! Do not be fooled by any bullshit!

Denis, hi! a man who was elected governor at a spontaneous rally who, before his arrest, had really offered nothing good, having seized the RSA several times, then released him, and in the end decided to block the treasury, jeopardizing the payment of wages and pensions to the residents of Donetsk. He had no idea He spoke on emotions, his words received support from a part of the population. He doesn’t have that base there. It’s ridiculous even to discuss the presidency.

[668_OOCH_2P_4B]

I think that they have already put an end to Gubarev. The lack of experience of political struggle and membership, although in the past, in radical groups leaves him no chance of success.

[Ingvar 72]

Hello my friend levoslav

Quote: atalef

Then Ukraine will definitely become fascist

Catechism"Spread incriminating rumors against these types, create a dubious reputation for them. In the end, they will start to be feared by those who had an excellent opinion of them and supported them. Deprive them of their connections and contacts, do not give them the opportunity to work effectively, question the feasibility of the work they perform and their posts, isolate them, set the crowd against them, deprive them of their influential positions in society. Provoke them to conflict. Humiliate them, ignore them, offend them with unfair rewards, and when they protest, blame them for all mortal sins, drag them to the party committee, the police, and, if possible, to the court.

If you are older, blame the violation of respect for the elders; if you are equal in age, blame the violation of the principles of brotherhood and, of course, internationalism. The main thing is to blame, let them make excuses. The one who makes excuses is already half to blame.

Provoke them to speak out against state power, and then expose them and destroy them with the help of state power. The right to privileges and a quiet life is received only by one who dutifully follows us, and with us. Anyone who wants to go their own independent path is potentially dangerous and should be deprived of all support and even livelihoods.

Either our order, or complete disorganization. Where they intend to do without us, there must be xaoc! Make sure that the disorder continues until the exhausted goyim, in desperation, ask you to take power into your own hands and provide them with a calm life." .

Look Sanya, how interesting, on the one hand, anti-Semites with Russophobia, on the other, patriots of Russia with a large number of Jews. Somehow everything is too much according to the Catechism.

No social process should be left to chance. If you see that he will not bring us any benefit, either lower him on an inclined plane on the brakes, or direct him against the goyim. We should lead any undertaking to lead it in the direction we need. When two Slavs fight, they bleed each other, the sensible Jew present will always win. Keeping visible objectivity, set them against each other, warm them up envy of one another, but be prudent at the same time, prove your goodwill. And the place of the arbiter of the arbiter of justice is provided to you.

[afdjhbn67]

and he does not need the brains of the main compass, so that he leads in the right direction ..

[Manul]

Quote: kolyhalovs

This is inhumane! Why are you so bad about Ukraine?

As I understand it, about inhumanity, did you mean the issue of Novodvorskaya to them? Specify, otherwise they will kill you with minuses!

[velikoros-xnumx]

Quote: kolyhalovs

This is inhumane! Why are you so bad about Ukraine

No, only to its individual parts and to the Great Ukrain.

[afdjhbn67]

certainly bad, for which you are well treated?

[dustycat]

Quote: kolyhalovs

Why are you so bad about Ukraine?

Not to Ukraine, but to Hitler's henchmen.

Rydnu Ukrainians we go and shanuymuyem!

[thrower]

And in the appendage of Shenderovich and Sobchak

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

albats vonidze gozman kovalev

[120352]

Shenderovich and Sobchak, as an appendage? Symbolically! What will we hang on?

[thrower]

We do not send them to death, but to strengthen Tymoshenko’s disabled team.

[inkass_98]

Quote: thrower

We don’t send them to death, but to strengthen Tymoshenko’s disabled team

Then they must be sent there in wheelchairs, preferably tied to a cable behind the KAMAZ.

[Dimkin]

This crazy Novodvorskaya must be put on a stake, I can’t bear it

[Anatolich]

I'm afraid that the stake will not scare her

[Russ69]

Quote: Dimkin

This crazy Novodvorskaya must be put on a stake, I can’t bear it

No, she must be cherished and cherished. For no one but themselves can demonstrate the stupidity of the opposition ...

[120352]

A stake is a useful thing, and after Novodvorskaya it will be all in der-me, like everything with which it comes into contact. Could it be dumped into the sarcophagus of the fourth block in Chernobyl? Over time, neutrons will crumble ...

[Lk17619]

Quote: 120352

Could it be dumped into the sarcophagus of the fourth block in Chernobyl?

And the radiation will not jump?

[Day 11]

What do you want from a 65-year-old virgin? She threw all her ardor of unspent love to fight.

[aleks 62]

... Dap-dap ???? You won’t give it directly ... In appearance, age - people do not live so much ....

[Tersky]

Quote: mamont5

I suggest exchanging Gubarev for Novodvorskaya. She is all with their giblets.

There are enough of their own, Novodvorskaya in comparison with the "flaming" Ruslana - blotter, ..

[120352]

If madness is contagious (and this is not excluded), then for our smaller brothers this can become irreversible, and then, when Ukraine returns to Russia, as it was from 1654 to 1918, this danger will also threaten us. Let's make a national cosmonaut out of her, send him into outer space without a spacesuit.

[Hippopotamus]

Thank you for the link! Happiness Novodvorskaya that is not the 30th!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Hippo

Happiness Novodvorskaya that is not the 30th!

so that's why it screams.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Hippo

Thank you for the link!

here is the whole selection of her delirium
http://vnovodvorskaia.livejournal.com/

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Tamara and I go as a couple, Tamara and I

[Day 11]

How not to treat him, but Blank was not a very stupid person: "shit of the nation" in the service of crooks and thieves,
by apt definition of Lenin:
It is wrong to confuse the "intellectual forces" of the people with the "forces" of the bourgeois intelligentsia. I will take Korolenko as their model: I recently read his brochure War, Fatherland and Humanity, written in August 1917. Korolenko is the best of the "near-Kadets" almost a Menshevik .--- And what a vile, despicable, vile defense of the imperialist war, covered with corny phrases! A pitiful bourgeois man, captivated by bourgeois prejudices! For such gentlemen, 10 killed in the imperialist war is a cause worthy of support (with deeds, with corny phrases " against "war), and the death of hundreds of thousands in a just civil war against the landlords and capitalists causes gasps, groans, sighs, hysteria.
No, it is not a sin for such "talents" to sit for weeks in jail if this must be done to prevent conspiracies (like Krasnaya Gorka) and the death of tens of thousands. And we discovered these conspiracies of cadets and "near-cadets". And we know that professors near the Cadets give quite Yes, there is help near the conspirators. It's a fact.
The intellectual forces of workers and peasants are growing and gaining strength in the struggle for the overthrow of the bourgeoisie and its accomplices, intellectuals, lackeys of capital, who imagine themselves to be the brains of the nation. In fact, this is not the brain, but rather.
We pay above average salaries to "intellectual forces" who want to bring science to the people (and not serve capital). This is a fact. We protect them. "" And how do you like that?

[alone]

Quote: Den 11

How not to treat him, but Blank was not a very stupid person: "shit of the nation" in the service of crooks and thieves,
by apt definition of Lenin:
It is wrong to confuse the "intellectual forces" of the people with the "forces" of the bourgeois intelligentsia. I will take Korolenko as their model: I recently read his brochure War, Fatherland and Humanity, written in August 1917. Korolenko is the best of the "near-Kadets" almost a Menshevik .--- And what a vile, despicable, vile defense of the imperialist war, covered with corny phrases! A pitiful bourgeois man, captivated by bourgeois prejudices! For such gentlemen, 10 killed in the imperialist war is a cause worthy of support (with deeds, with corny phrases " against "war), and the death of hundreds of thousands in a just civil war against the landlords and capitalists causes gasps, groans, sighs, hysteria.
No, it is not a sin for such "talents" to sit for weeks in jail if this must be done to prevent conspiracies (like Krasnaya Gorka) and the death of tens of thousands. And we discovered these conspiracies of cadets and "near-cadets". And we know that professors near the Cadets give quite Yes, there is help near the conspirators. It's a fact.
The intellectual forces of workers and peasants are growing and gaining strength in the struggle for the overthrow of the bourgeoisie and its accomplices, intellectuals, lackeys of capital, who imagine themselves to be the brains of the nation. In fact, this is not the brain, but rather.
We pay above average salaries to "intellectual forces" who want to bring science to the people (and not serve capital). This is a fact. We protect them. "" And how do you like that?

) It was always pleasant for me to read Saltykov-Shchedrin. "If everyone in the state starts talking about patriotism all over the place, then a major theft has taken place somewhere."
maybe he wrote not as He said it, but the essence is 100% like that))

[sq]

in the thirties, she would have been the most correct komunyak (not to be confused with the communists), with the largest lists of enemies of the people she would have run to inform.

[120352]

You will not find a more consistent, active and open Russophobe than Novodvorskaya within our Fatherland! I remember her in the late 80s, when shaded by a tricolor outlandish at that time, she was worn with a group of strange-looking people, often with obvious signs of mental disorder, and with her disgusting creaky voice squealed something about a "commie". Few people took her seriously, as urban madmen do not take seriously. but sometimes they listened. Due to her external unusualness, she was then often invited to various television channels, but due to the fact that her entire supply of ideas was soon exhausted, the invitations soon stopped. Valeria Ilyinichna, considering herself an outstanding personality, could not come to terms with the new social role and began to successfully seek new victims of abuse. At that time, the mass loss of professionalism by the journalistic fraternity, caused, in particular, by the fact that the number of professionals was gradually decreasing, and the number of media outlets increased, and if we divide the number of the former by the number of the latter, it was easy to see that the result was a value that was decreasing every day. ... During this decline in professionalism, VIN again managed to somehow attract attention to itself (self-respecting people did not cooperate with cheap publications). Now she considers herself (but, of course, she is not, it would be offensive to any publication that is going to exist even tomorrow) as a journalist.
At the same time, the signs of her mental illness are becoming more and more vivid and profound. This brings her closer to the representatives of the "Ukrainian revolution", implicated in wild Russophobia and the urge to steal something: all the same, mos-to-a-l-and everything is to blame.
I think so. over time, experts will give a special name for this mania, but now I would like to wish the highly respected Valeria Ilinichna to get into a psychiatric hospital as soon as possible. The conclusion will make of it a peculiar banner of protest of madmen against psychiatrists.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: 120352

More consistent, active, and open Russophobe

not why - boar, her boyfriend

[inkass_98]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

not why - boar, her boyfriend

Trigger on time ...

[tolancop]

Novodvorskaya is needed !!! Like a vaccine against a disease. The authorities show it more often enough for the people to develop a strong rejection of such "fighters". Cheap and cheerful.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: tolancop

Like a vaccine against illness

the main thing here is not to overdo it, I specially sometimes go to her site to listen to them with a pine forest, but when it comes to busting I want to begin to pick up an ice ax.
therefore, we can conclude in large quantities causes persistent aggression

but the reaction is strictly individual, I start to boil somewhere after 5 minutes, and my mother starts talking about the execution for 10-15 seconds, the rest just can’t watch

[infinite silence ...]

Miners rise ... From the heart. Simply. But VERY understandable ....

Girls, Enough !.

[infinite silence ...]

Is today MINUS Day? )))))))))))))))))
What did the miner’s speech do not like? Justify your minus!

[Goodmen]

Quote: mamont5

"Valeria Novodvorskaya, who calls herself a human rights activist, recorded a video message to activists of the Right Sector, in which she calls on them to more actively influence the new Ukrainian government in order to resist Russia." Http://supermnenie.mirtesen.ru/blog/43832073958/Novodvorskaya
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I don’t understand why this tv.a.r.r still translates air? or is it a tribute to fashion - democracy, freedom of speech? Why not to send all these frank enemies out of the country and forget about them? let them come out in the west with bile ... I personally feel disgusted by this vse.s.r from the 5th column to listen! you will not name in another way! only D.E.R.mo. and no concrete proposals - why such freedom of speech is needed then?
Or are our special services so kidding? Such tactics when ghouls are in sight?

[Day 11]

You are close to the truth. Let tryndit-it is not dangerous. Who takes it seriously? And so, for the West, we have freedom of speech and democracy!

[aleks 62]

... She has senile senility .... Soon, she will also betray something wrong ...

[Uncle lee]

First, freedom Gubarev, and then the people themselves will make their choice!

[a52333]

Gubarev is not bad, but there is also Tsarev, a man with experience and iron mmm ... twins.

[thrower]

For a long time nothing has been heard about Tsarev. About Odessa Markov also thought a lot of good, but where is he now?

[inkass_98]

Quote: thrower

For a long time nothing has been heard about Tsarev.

Tsarev was at Solovyov’s broadcast regarding the signing of an agreement on the entry of Crimea into the Russian Federation, he had seen him there for the last time. So in place he works.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: a52333

and iron mmm ... twins.

Personally checked

[120352]

Owner of factories, newspapers, ships Tsarev? The same oligarch!

[225chay]

Quote: a52333

Gubarev is not bad, but there is also Tsarev, a man with experience and iron mmm ... twins.

Too young yet. There are many more worthy and decent people.

[awg75]

the president of Ukraine, the West will put Tymoshenko and the opinion of the people to him in one place. enjoy independent and non-self

[Siberian19]

While he is dangerous for the junta, no one will free him! Russia is betting on Yanuca, it has already swept a wave of demonstrations urging him to put a wicked thing, it should appear soon!

[thrower]

in May, Yanuka will need to change something, Gubarev is an ideal option.

[alone]

Quote: thrower

in May, Yanuka will need to change something, Gubarev is an ideal option.

What makes it perfect? can you argue?

[thrower]

Pronounced pro-Russian position. Persistence of belief, despite the arrest (information appeared about torture). Is there a better way? Or is this not enough?

[alone]

Quote: thrower

Pronounced pro-Russian position. Persistence of belief, despite the arrest (information appeared about torture). Is there a better way? Or is this not enough?

And all that’s enough to make him President? Incidentally, you have a no less pronounced pro-Russian position. Let’s make you president of Ukraine. .One position and perseverance of the country can not be controlled.

Here’s an example for you. On March 9, 2014, a rally was held in Donetsk, gathering about 3 thousand people, at which the protesters demanded to release Gubarev. He was supported by only 3 thousand people. And that’s all. Oh, you tell the Donbass people are hardworking, they work. I don’t argue. Sunday, March 9th. Everyone has a rest. There are only 3 thousand people all over Donetsk. Here and his entire electorate.

[Quantum]

Novodvorskaya together with Tymoshenko will make an interesting couple!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Quantum

Novodvorskaya together with Tymoshenko will make an interesting couple

and you playful

[zzz]

They will never give up industrial areas!

[Same lech]

I propose to those who are guarding Pavel Gubarev: take the plunge and free Pavel Gubarev!

He is more likely to be killed than freed ... he is now a dangerous political prisoner for the temporary workers who seized power in Ukraine.


It is necessary to protect such people by all available means.

[alexng]

They will not understand and disagree. They go all the way to the complete collapse of the state. These can not be stopped until they bring the country to a full polar fox and give him the remains to eat. It looks like a fairy tale about a bun, it's about Ukraine.

[Nayhas]

Gubarev - President of Ukraine!

Yeah, is the Nazi Barkashovets our ideal? Straight and choose no one else?

[alexng]

Photoshop, even with the naked eye is visible. And very rude. The color scheme of the hands and face is completely different, and it can be seen that the head was taken from another photo. Rude and not professional.

[Nayhas]

Quote: alexneg

Photoshop, even with the naked eye is visible. And very rude. The color scheme of the hands and face is completely different, and it can be seen that the head was taken from another photo. Rude and not professional.

Actually, the video has already been dug up where he sits at the meeting in the first rows. But this is not important. The important thing is that as soon as he mentions his participation in the presidential elections, this photo will immediately fly around the world (Ukraine has definitely flown around), you can endlessly shout "photoshop", but this will already sound like an excuse, this is a deliberate loss.

[afdjhbn67]

why are you afraid, but the right sector will give him votes ..

[atalef]

Quote: alexneg

Photoshop, even with the naked eye is visible. And very rude.

Is this the same photoshop?

[Same lech]

Interesting photo ... any other suggestions?

[RusKaz]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Interesting photo ... any other suggestions?

there are other suggestions! her

[siberalt]

These must go to America for Obama

[Nayhas]

Quote: RusKaz

there are other suggestions! her

No, this is bigger.

[afdjhbn67]

so this is our man - this is he against the frame of Husseinich fotknul ..

[Nayhas]

Quote: The same Lech

Interesting photo ... any other suggestions?

On the network about this photo, a whole war is underway, they have already dug up an ancient video shoot where Gubarev is sitting at a meeting of RNE. It has become absolutely irrelevant whether he was in RNU or not, as a presidential candidate he is no longer suitable.

[thrower]

Maybe photoshop, maybe the truth was in the Barkashevites, but now he has shown himself as a person in whom you can be sure.

[Refugee from Kazakhstan]

Damn, they would immediately say that Russian fascists are better than Ukrainian fascists!)))

[thrower]

1. By youth, you can not only join, but also into the party.
2. When was the last time you heard "khokhla - to the knife"? If you ever heard ...

[afdjhbn67]

YES KHOHLOV ON GILYAKA AND ON KNIFE!

[Native grandfather]

photoshop deletants. Would not be dishonored. Did not observe the proportions of the size of the head and the width of the shoulders. Neck length. The presence of the Adam's apple and its position relative to the chin at this angle. And this is also when looking at the photo with magnification and the histogram. Just a quick look.

[Gecko]

It is not necessary to confuse and substitute the concept of nationalist and Nazi.
There is no blood on the hands of the Barkashovites to call them that.
I am not a fan of nationalism, because this is nonsense in the multinational Russian empire.
Even if it’s true that he is a Barkash resident, it turns out that he is a Russian nationalist,
and this is in contrast to Bendera, who have blood on their elbows ...

[stayer]

Without the industrial Southeast, the whole idea is meaningless. The West needs Ukraine only in its entirety. They will never agree to a division of the country. And then the fascists themselves are stuffed.

[mamont5]

Recently read:
"Major General of the FSB of the Russian Federation (retired) Evgeny Lobachev told Pravda. Ru how and when Russia will be able to stand up for the people's governor of Donbass Gubarev."

More details: http://globalconflict.ru/interviews/56545-general-major-fsb-my-zhdem-kogda-silov
oe-vmeshatelstvo-budet-pravomerno

[nemec55]

Even after a photo of him in Nazi form, even talking about his pretense is somehow "stupid"

[novobranets]

The author suggests making a deal with the Nazis. It seems that he doesn’t get along with the story. Then we can recall the very recent agreement of the bandits with the yanke, which lasted half an hour. And in general, why on earth should I give bandits to at least half a meter of Ukrainian land? If only to the grave behind the fence of the cemetery. To negotiate and ask what the junta is about, only to humiliate yourself, there can be only one contract, or you can kill yourself by running against the wall or we will come and help. It can be seen that the author wrote from the bottom of his heart, he did not begin to minus, but I can not agree with him.

[thrower]

A deal in this case is necessary based on the following components:
1. The protégé of the zapadents cannot be the president; he must be sought in the East
2. A strategic retreat is necessary so that those who gave birth to the Nazis fight it, even if the Poles do it
3. What is needed as the president of Ukraine is a man who clearly and clearly voiced his pro-Russian opinion and who will act as he voiced (the fact that Gubarev does not make deals with temporary workers is clear from the fact that he is still in prison)

[novobranets]

Deal - actions of individuals and legal entities aimed at the establishment, amendment or termination of civil rights and obligations. This concept expresses compromise between private will theory and law theory.

1. The protégé of the zapadents cannot be the president; he must be sought in the East

I agree, but it would be naive to believe that what is now at the helm will calmly look at these searches and not oppose.

Quote: thrower

2. A strategic retreat is necessary so that those who gave birth to the Nazis fight it, even if the Poles do it

Did I understand correctly? It is necessary to leave (strategic retreat) and create favorable conditions for the occupation of Ukraine by Poland, (and in general, what is the connection between the generation of Nazism and Poland), and then fight with it in order to expel it back.

3. We need a man as president of Ukraine who clearly and clearly voiced his pro-Russian opinion and who will act as voiced

With this, it’s also clear, it’s not clear yet one of the three points there is not one that would explain the need for a compromise with the Nazis. Which always leads to one conclusion, the fascists NEVER keep their word, and do not follow their obligations.

[thrower]

1. When Gubarev is in power in Donetsk, he will reduce the possibility of influence on the resistance movement from Kiev. Subject to the neutralization of the law enforcement agencies of Donetsk.
2. Yes, Ukraine can be indivisible, within the borders that exist today, but zones of influence must be distinguished, according to the type of Germany 1945-1948, each territory with its own self-government.
3. At the conclusion of the non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany in 1939 (the so-called "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact"), the beginning of the Great Patriotic War was postponed for 2 years. We know that they will not keep their word, but now time is working against the Kiev junta

[novobranets]

According to unverified rumors, Gubarev’s state of health does not allow him to hope for his participation in the work of Donetsk self-government.

Quote: thrower

2. Yes, Ukraine can be indivisible, within the borders that exist today, but zones of influence must be distinguished, according to the type of Germany 1945-1948, each territory with its own self-government.

Ukraine should remain indivisible within the framework of today's border, but in no case should the further stay of today's gang (I can’t get another word) in power. It is fraught with the emergence of NATO bases near the borders of Russia, the sale of large areas of black soil to China, the spread and strengthening of anti-Russian propaganda among the population, the arming and formation of regular fascist-Bandera formations.

Quote: thrower

3. When concluding a non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany in 1939 (the so-called "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact"), the beginning of the Great Patriotic War was postponed for 2 years.

What is needed now is not a non-aggression pact, but guarantees of the inviolability of the Russian-speaking part of the population, can we believe such guarantees that are at variance with the policy of the junta? And who will give them? Senya? Bandera put it on him. Yarosh or Tyagnibok is not even funny. Pigtail is already nobody. There is no one to negotiate with. Therefore, I remain with my five kopecks, the only conversation with the fascists is an ultimatum. If the sanctions are not fulfilled, since the range of them is wide today, starting with gas, etc., you can connect "friends", Ukraine owes China a decent amount. But no compromises with criminals.

PS Above there is a comment by Santor about Gubarev.

[Day 11]

Until recently, I thought that there Julia has weight and should bet on her, but with the current Makhnovism ---...! In general, it seems to me that she is just deeply and unrequitedly in love with our President! And from the rejected woman, you can expect all kinds of feints ! So what can she spoil with her tongue

[novobranets]

Quote: Den 11

In general, it seems to me that she is simply deeply and irresponsibly in love with our President! And from the rejected woman, you can expect all sorts of tricks!

Recently, a term such as "political corpse" has been widely used. Yulka has been for a long time. But not wanting to come to terms with this, he still makes attempts to feign significance, although from the outside it is a pitiful sight. So to spoil the mood with her cadaveric stench, she is still able, but no more.

[thrower]

Zombie Apocalypse in all its glory))

[novobranets]

Quote: thrower

Zombie Apocalypse in all its glory

Absolutely right. And it would be nice to see in this company, the entire top of that fetid heap, now called the Rada.

[Triton]

Correctly in the comments above it is said to give this toad to Ukraine (let the swamp stir up there), and also to Khakamad and others like her.

[siberalt]

Interesting. There they will become Khakamadko, and Novohatko.?

[Gagarin]

Dream, dream ...

[konvalval]

Who are you asking? In addition to the machine, they do not recognize anything.

[tnship2]

Definitely need to demand the release of Gubarev. And with all available means. Crush the Nazis economically. Criminalize the Nazis, law enforcement officers. Businessmen who support the radicals of the Nazis deprive them of the opportunity to earn money in RUSSIA. Also, any entertaining artists send to cut loot at the place of registration. But there are few ways in our cramped world to influence the stupidity and shortsightedness multiplied by the ideas of fascism.

[Santor]

Quote: nemec55

Even after a photo of him in Nazi form, even talking about his pretense is somehow "stupid"

And read a couple of comments above was weak?

Gubarev is in a coma, they still cannot enter ... The wife turned to the Swiss Red Cross, but the doctors were not allowed to see him ... Lawyers are not allowed ... What is it all about when Ukraine passed the LAW yesterday, according to which all Ukrainians face criminal liability for visiting Crimea, for maintaining communication with Crimea, for conducting trade and other affairs with Crimea ... These, having adopted the Law against one of the regions of Russia, have forgotten that Russia can extend it to its entire territory ... punish the whole country, but not her middle finger equal hands

[tnship2]

What other coma? Could you give more details? Nowhere has the information passed. With respect tnship2 /

[Day 11]

It was infa that he was disconnected from the life support apparatus (like the brain had already died). It is clear that these ghouls in power in Ukraine will hide this until the end.

[international]

Yes, we, Crimeans, do not go to Kiev yet. That is why, even last summer, some Kievites said: "... we must at least have time to visit Crimea. To see the sights ..." I did not understand then that they already knew and were preparing. But I guessed. And today this "tourist's coming out" is one of the leaders of the Euromaidan. But, probably, he is now "a lot of money" ... But he was warned, and his mother was categorically against such a "policy" of his son. And his grandfather was in the Red Army. I can introduce you to this ...

[Day 11]

Alexey, what do you have with energy supply? Absolutely depressing? Nothing, hold on, they will soon connect you (there is an order-maximum of 2 months) to a single e / system

[pr 627]

The author seems to be slightly overheated. What other state should be given under the control of Bandera?

[Russ69]

Quote: Russ69

Quote: Dimkin

This crazy Novodvorskaya must be put on a stake, I can’t bear it

No, she must be cherished and cherished. For no one but themselves can demonstrate the stupidity of the opposition ...

[serge]

What is the point in addressing opposition leaders. These are pawns and do not decide anything themselves.

[Santor]

I checked the photo - it is posted in Life magazine posts and n in contact on dubious resources. Right-click on the photo and select the line - find the photo in Google.

[Sabtr]

Gubarev is a small businessman, was engaged in the organization of mass events in Donetsk (participated in the New Year's morning performances for children in the role of Santa Claus, etc. ....) - and whether he (the clown) should be the governor or president-GUBA

[pr 627]

But brave. And you, I apologize, the son of a gun.

[Ross]

Quote: mamont5

I suggest exchanging Gubarev for Novodvorskaya. She is all with their giblets.

"Valeria Novodvorskaya, who calls herself a human rights activist, recorded a video message to activists of the Right Sector, in which she calls on them to actively influence the new Ukrainian government in order to confront Russia."
http://supermnenie.mirtesen.ru/blog/43832073958/Novodvorskaya-prizvala-Pravyiy-s

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But who needs it, a pathological traitor? Traitors are not appreciated anywhere, but simply used as a regular product No. 1

[parusnik]

They would rather kill him than let them go ... and say that he died of a heart attack ...

[international]

Haste in the election of a leader is fraught with tragedy. Maybe it’s not the time to look for him. After all, there is a form of government not only in the form of a pyramid of power. There are also network forms. For example, the Council of Elders; Supreme Chamber, etc.

[Quantum]

There is only one option! Riot of the military unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, protection by it
President and the further spread of the protest movement.
By the elections, there will be a balance of power, a bet only on the pro-Russian
the applicant.

[Nikolaevich I]

What, this scum Novodvorskaya again somewhere "lit up"? It is necessary to sink so low the media to publish an interview with her, or invite to the TV channel! In the early 90s it turned out to listen to her vile nonsense a couple of times, never again did not want and could not hear her. Especially when, after the execution of the defenders of the Moscow "white house" by Yeltsin, who fell into alcoholic marasmus, the "human rights activist" Novodvorskaya, splashing saliva, called in rude terms to HANG ON ALL PILLARS of the defenders of the "white house", and at the same time all supporters of Soviet power, socialism! ”Hitler and Himmler in hell just applauded her and are ready to kiss her" passionately "when she is there.

[polite people]

The army and the SBU, what will you tell your children if you will have them when everything is over. We must live the future, look at 4 a step forward. And there everything is so clear that only full can be scored against RUSSIA.

[The shy man]

a featured article .. of a naive author !!! .. no one will let anyone go .. fools are sitting fools, but of an unreasonable degree

[marshes]

And this type in Prime Minister Ministers. Anatoly Ermakov, a pro-Russian activist who was wounded in Kharkov during the storming of the office
"Enlightenment", in the photo in the middle.

[Refugee from Kazakhstan]

Why do you constantly poke your pictures?))) They told you that the Russian fascists are kinder than the Ukrainian fascists, is it really not clear!)))

[novobranets]

Quote: RK refugee

They told you that Russian fascists are kinder than Ukrainian fascists,

A Mongolian (photo below) finally darling.

[Gecko]

True Aryans ...

[Day 11]

Exactly! They are the most (and such were found)

[marshes]

Quote: Den 11

Exactly! They are the most (and such were found)

And such too.

[Day 11]

There were these, no one argues. Don’t be offended, the old man didn’t want to offend you, our friends! In general, World War II, we don’t know as much yet !!! By the way, did you seem to have made a film about Panfilov’s, didn’t you see it on screens?

[marshes]

Quote: gecko

True Aryans ...

These are Mongol guys from the neo-Nazi group Tsagaan Hass.

[Day 11]

And what are these values ​​that they uphold? I can understand German Natsik (after all, their grandfathers were warriors, not a couple of the current German politicians) --- but THESE?

[Refugee from Kazakhstan]

Or maybe they are rappers?))) Or photoshop?))) Or Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians?))) Well, they just squinted a bit!)))

[Gecko]

Nobody argues ...
Let's talk about another fascism ...
Do you know the slogan: Suitcase, Station, Russia?
Familiar refugees from Srdne Asian republics
both turned out to be oddly from Kazakhstan,
one is Russian, the other is Tatar.

[Refugee from Kazakhstan]

If interested, I can tell you how they become refugees!

[polite people]

The enemy of all nationalists, Pavel Anatolyevich Sudoplatov, believed that any concessions to Bandera, readiness for agreements and a “compromise” with them would lead to inevitable defeat, which in turn would lead to the repeated repetition of the Babi Yar and the Volyn massacre. He was sure that those who did not understand this policy would doom millions to the repetition of the terrible tragedies of the past. The current leadership of Ukraine either does not want to understand this or consciously leads its people to death. HORROR!!!!!!!!

[saag]

The president will be a protege of the oligarchy, any, even western, at least Ukrainian, even Russian, this is not a struggle of systems, but a struggle of capital for influence, Gubarev was removed so that he would not interfere with anyone

[Rus1704]

The separation of the southeast into a separate state of Eastern Ukraine (!!! not joining the Russian Federation) would solve many of the internal political problems of Ukraine itself, and would reduce the speed of the west. Although, it seems to me that without the southeast, the remaining Ukraine will no longer be needed by anyone - neither the west, nor the people who are now seeking power in there.

[Barsikof]

[quote = Rus1704] The secession of the southeast into a separate state of Eastern Ukraine (!!! not joining the Russian Federation) would solve many of the internal political problems of Ukraine itself, and would decrease the speed of the west. Although, it seems to me that without the southeast, the remaining Ukraine will no longer be needed by anyone - neither the west, nor the people who are now seeking power there. [/ Quote

I fully support !!!

[Mark Twain]

There was information about three days ago that he was in a coma and the doctors of the prison could not take him out of the coma, and they were forbidden to take them out, so maybe he really isn’t alive!

[series]

The problem is that the current junta does not need the stability of Ukraine for nothing, as a confirmation of this, their actions. The junta’s task is to unleash a massacre in Ukraine, which they are doing very successfully ...

[nizrum]

Yes .... As a conclusion:
The most organized people in the post-Soviet space are Natsik (((

This is what happens if you do not interest young people in their free time.

[thrower]

Quote: novobranets

What is needed now is not a non-aggression pact, but a guarantee of the inviolability of the Russian-speaking population

Unfortunately, no one will give such guarantees right now, simply because there are too many groups in this cobweb