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Statement of the Presidium of the Lugansk Regional Council

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Statement of the Presidium of the Lugansk Regional CouncilToday is exactly a month since the day the agreement was signed between the President of Ukraine and the opposition on resolving the political crisis. What does the country have now?


Ukraine lost the Crimea and the “zdobula” power, which very quickly disappointed even those who put it over themselves. Pogroms, violence, looting by the Maidan strike forces, either uncontrollable or covered by representatives of this new government, have become commonplace. The country is slipping into a systemic crisis, and its leaders are busy eliminating politically disagreeable and direct persecution of dissidents. The complete mismatch of public administration offers a bleak alternative to turning Ukraine into either a police state, or into a mandated territory (into a territory completely controlled from the outside).

Within a month, the Verkhovna Rada did not adopt a single law, which at least in an insignificant volume expanded the rights and freedoms of citizens, reformed the power system, changed the fundamentals of economic and business development, and created the prerequisites for a real fight against corruption.

The chaotic impulses of people who have received control over the country are not only surprising, but also causing outrage to a growing number of citizens. They make you think about who actually controls the state today and makes decisions: “centurions of self-defense”, Maidan councils, those whom they appointed to public officials, or some third parties whose role Ukrainian citizens can only speculate about?

Otherwise, how to explain that in the evening the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council announces that he withdraws from the CIS, or immediately introduces a visa regime with the Russian Federation, and in the morning the Prime Minister suggests that you think carefully before taking such a step? A step that automatically deprives the residents of the border regions of the opportunity to communicate with their relatives and forces the citizens of Ukraine who work in the neighboring country to return and increase the number of the unemployed in their homeland or become political refugees. The step combining economic sabotage with political restriction of the rights and freedoms of residents of the south-east.

How to explain the fact that the law of force becomes the main form of law? Participation in the "revolution" suddenly became an indulgence for those who break the law. And being a member of Freedom that turned out to be in the imperious team allowed its activists to believe that they will decide who will work where and how much. The video about how the group of “Svobodovtsy” headed by people's deputies Igor Miroshnichenko, Andrei Ilyenko and Bogdan Benyuk forced the head of NTU Alexander Panteleimonov to write a letter of dismissal with force and threats, how these fans of Bandera and Shukhevych imagine freedom of speech .

The authorities in Kiev, despite the hardest economic situation, create the National Guard and at the expense of taxpayers employ armed groups, and in the meantime they spread to the regions, engaging in extortion and robbery, “spin” business, appointments and dismissals to the positions of everyone they consider necessary. And everything happens under cover or with the direct participation of ultranationalist leaders with mandates of people's deputies.

It would seem that the Crimea should have sobered those who did their best to split the country. Unfortunately not. While some high-ranking politicians began to appeal to residents of the southeast with promises and appeals to preserve the integrity of the country, an official of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs calls Ukrainian citizens of Russian nationality a “diaspora” who has no rights here, and not Naturally, outraged residents of the south-east of Ukraine. Where is the limit of hypocrisy and cynicism?

Outraged by the fact that the most important, life-determining political decision on association between Ukraine and the EU was taken almost behind the scenes - signed today in Brussels without prior extensive discussion. At the same time, the population of the country has no idea about the consequences of this step, which can be very, very serious. It’s no accident that experts say that the “political association” effectively deprives Ukraine of a part of its sovereignty.

We appeal to the residents of Lugansk region

It is necessary to recognize: the Maidan created the prerequisites for understanding that rights and freedoms are only worth something when they are not received as charitable assistance, but won. We must uphold the interests of the region, by all means strive for truly democratic changes, not to imitate them.

We appeal to all political forces, public organizations, communities.

It is necessary to create public councils, people's assemblies and other organizational forms of democracy by people everywhere, to develop proposals and demands, forming a consistent program of action.

The Lugansk Regional Council, as the legal body of representative power, is ready to work together with all the constructive forces that are striving for democratic reforms in the country.

Appeal to law enforcement

Do not violate the rights of citizens to protect their interests and peaceful protests, stop any attempts to prosecute activists for political reasons, no matter who orders to do so. Your goal is to promote the rule of law, and not to “clean up” those who disagree.

We are compelled to state that there are more and more reasons to remind you of this. In the office of the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in the Luhansk region, Arsen Klinchaev, a deputy of the Lugansk regional council, was subjected to harassment by the people's deputy Oleg Lyashko and a group of people. The other day, with the support of special units, an attempt was made to seize equipment from the Luhansk-based Randar company, whose head is an active participant in protest actions.

We demand an objective investigation of the armed provocation perpetrated by representatives of the Luhansk branch of the Udar party 22 in February 2014 of the year near the building of the regional state administration and the regional council, as a result of which people suffered.

Law enforcement agencies must do everything possible so that they are not turned into an instrument of political reprisals and the creation of a police state.

We appeal to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine

We demand in the shortest possible time to initiate legislative consolidation of the status of the Russian language as the second state language, and also to create a legal field for the implementation of the decentralization of power, the expansion of regional powers.

We are compelled to state that until now our appeals and demands, which are the expression of the will of the inhabitants of the entire region, have remained without attention and proper response.

And therefore we declare: in case the opinion of the residents of the Luhansk region is ignored this time, the entire responsibility for the further aggravation of the socio-political situation in Ukraine will fall precisely and only on the central government.
Originator:
http://oblrada.lg.ua/content/zayavlenie-prezidiuma-luganskogo-oblastnogo-soveta-1
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  1. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 22 March 2014 07: 35
    +11
    And where is the appeal to the Russian Federation represented by its executive bodies ???
    1. Saratovets
      Saratovets 22 March 2014 07: 44
      +28
      I think this overshooting of a bootet after their banderlogs are sent
      1. Sibiriya
        Sibiriya 22 March 2014 10: 00
        +3
        Rather, they pluck - they can not otherwise bandits
        1. Ross
          Ross 22 March 2014 10: 19
          +22
          This is the first appeal of a legitimate authority in the Southeast, after the Crimea! Before that there were simple activists. Why don’t the Donetsk miners recall the old effective strike tool? And support the Lugansk Council? Eh, we need competent strategists ...
          1. vlum
            vlum 22 March 2014 13: 07
            +4
            It is logically implied that the deputies of the regional council, and even more so !!!, its Presidium, are the very strategists whose appearance everyone has been waiting for so long.

            As if their appeal was correctly stated, but somehow cowardly ... It looks like a betrayal. For some reason, Gepa is immediately remembered.
          2. de klermon
            de klermon 22 March 2014 14: 52
            +10
            How to support the Luhansk council? It all looks like a pitiful, helpless and toothless whine! Guys, you have Russia at your side, why are you afraid? What are you mumbling for? Doesn't it humiliate you to ask for handouts from the Maidan? Who are you asking? Those who shout about you "for knives, for knives"?
            Your choice is not wide:
            1) join the Nazi Maidan,
            2) get up and leave (desert according to the Yanukovych version),
            3) to meet justice, the memory of your ancestors and the aspirations of all healthy people in the area entrusted to you!
            Do you have an example in the south, or do you want to dig further ditches on the eastern border?
            In the end, you can go down in history both as Bandera and as Kovpak!
            As the saying goes, the choice is still yours!
            1. Hudo
              Hudo 22 March 2014 16: 28
              +17
              It is probably easy to sit at the computer and write the right words, and clever too is easy. And at night, the SBU pulled your comrades out of bed and took them to Kiev? Have your family and friends phoned with threats? And after that you went out into the street with protests? I went out in my Lugansk.
              You are so, with your tips divorced from reality, do not overclock too much - you look ridiculous.
              When I read posts like yours, I get the impression that you and the likes of you are watching a football match and giving "valuable" advice from the stands.

              And about the support of Russia, it is best to tell Gubarev or Kharitonov, who are mumbled in the Kiev Gestapo, or those who organized the blocking of the train at Olkhovaya and Kondrashevskaya-Novaya stations and are now sitting in the same Kiev and awaiting trial.
              Demanding something extraordinary limited to nothing worthless words of support, empty statements from the stands, at that moment when on the other hand the junta is not shy in the means and methods - this is all one to arrange speed competitions between a homemade bike and a Formula 1 car. And languidly sigh that the cyclist did not try, all alone could not overtake the opponent.
              1. Sailor Zheleznyak
                Sailor Zheleznyak 22 March 2014 17: 30
                +9
                Quote: Hudo
                Have your family and friends phoned with threats? And after that you went out into the street with protests? I went out in my Lugansk.
                You are so, with your tips divorced from reality, do not overclock too much - you look ridiculous.

                Yes, not just ... But no one will help you except you. First of all, there should be clear military and civil resistance on the ground. Wait for the Russian Federation to send its aircraft and solve all your problems naively. Russia can help organizations financially and militarily. fighting for their rights in the field. They should receive clear and clear requests for help. And then again it turns out that they were not so liberated, they didn’t give so much money, and in general you weren’t here. Passed already and repeatedly. It is enough to recall the Pan-Slavic wars. When Russia, laying 500000 soldiers, crushed the Ottomans, liberated the Serbs, Bulgarians, and Greeks. in gratitude, they became part of the worst enemy of Russia - the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and Russian monuments are now filled with all sorts of muck.
                1. Aleksandr65
                  Aleksandr65 23 March 2014 14: 08
                  0
                  And what kind of nonsense about Austria-Hungary?
              2. iConst
                iConst 22 March 2014 19: 30
                +3
                Quote: Hudo
                And at night, the SBU pulled your comrades out of bed and took them to Kiev? Have your family and friends phoned with threats? And after that you went out into the street with protests? I went out in my Lugansk.

                All is correct. The vast majority of the local gorlopans are not capable of more than how to stomp the buttons.

                What do you propose? How can I help you and in what?

                I draw your attention to the fact that any "gestures", especially with coordination in the network, will quickly be noticed and interpreted as interference in internal affairs. And the Ohr will be-here and it will only harm in the end.
                1. Hudo
                  Hudo 22 March 2014 21: 09
                  +5
                  Quote: iConst
                  What do you propose? How can I help you and in what?

                  For example, you can provide real assistance with the actions of the Russian Federation Commissioner for Human Rights, the Ombudsman seems to allow lawyers to be admitted to the dungeons of the Kuevsky Gestapo Gubarev and others political prisoners. To inflate this topic at the UN and so on. (violation of the rights of Russian-speaking) in the context of the probable exclusion of the Ombudsman and all sorts of humanitarian commissions formed on the initiative of the Russian Federation, the Russian Foreign Ministry and its Head, Mr. Lavrov, could.
                  1. iConst
                    iConst 23 March 2014 13: 58
                    0
                    Quote: Hudo
                    For example, you can provide real assistance with the actions of the Russian Federation Commissioner for Human Rights, the Ombudsman seems to allow lawyers to be admitted to the dungeons of the Kuev Gestapo Gubarev and other political prisoners. To inflate this topic at the UN and so on. (violation of the rights of Russian-speaking) in the context of the likely prohibition of the Ombudsman and all sorts of humanitarian commissions formed at the initiative of the Russian Federation could the Russian Foreign Ministry and its Head, Mr. Lavrov.

                    Dear, here I am, how can I move this question? Even if I can get an appointment with the Ombudsman, will I give advice on what to do?
                    And the second point - appeals to these issues to international authorities will have more weight if they come from residents of Ukraine.
                    Statements by Russia, in the absence of activity by the Ukrainian side, agree, will look pretentious.

                    The real thing that I see so far is how Russians can help their Ukrainian brothers - fundraising. Because the Maidan has achieved "success" precisely "thanks to" monetary support.

                    The working regions do not have such support. And most have families. Somehow you need to feed, on it time. And the question is who will work - the plants cannot stand idle.

                    The Russian Internet community is very poorly organized.
                    Most are like teapots: they boiled with righteous anger, gave a couple of long scrolls, the water went into steam and they were empty and cold. Until the next "sensation".

                    The concept of a long, painstaking, and most importantly, professional work is missing.
              3. de klermon
                de klermon 22 March 2014 21: 18
                +1
                Firstly, not at the computer;
                secondly, you will not start it yourself - no one will help you (!) - you can support PRESENT (minimum, or even going);
                thirdly, they didn’t try to negotiate with anyone in Galicia and didn’t ask anything from Kiev! They set conditions, and if not, they acted, took their own and did not sit out;
                fourthly, if you are afraid or if everything suits you, then why say anything at all? Be designated? Then really a football match is obtained!
                PS The fact that Gubareva and Kharitonov was taken to Kiev is the population of the East itself allowed! They didn’t even try to arrest Bilogo (Muzychko) and Yarosh — they were afraid (!), And you? Where are you? To help? Yes, but is Gubarev and Kharitonov the whole thing is limited?
              4. Suhow
                Suhow 22 March 2014 22: 23
                -1
                correctly say comrade. Many talk about annexation, but I agree with that, but why did the current (Ukraine) government completely forget about the EU’s decision on the Snake Island, so now our Ukrainian territory remains there? Why then there was no such kipish? EU is possible? Then what is the most popular and patriotic power?
              5. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 22 March 2014 22: 49
                +1
                first I gave you a "+" ... and then came to this disgrace:
                Quote: Hudo
                And about the support of Russia, it is best to tell Gubarev or Kharitonov, who in the Gestapo of Kiev mumble

                that is, we, Russia, should also release Guborev and Kharitonov?
                you will sit on the priest evenly, do not even try to intervene or stupidly guard your leaders, but should we harness for you?

                do you see them going to rallies ...
                the time of the rallies is long gone, and you still pretend that your hut is on the edge ...
              6. Aleksandr65
                Aleksandr65 23 March 2014 14: 06
                0
                You are one hundred percent right. Especially about the couch "fighters" advisers.
          3. Rusin Dima
            Rusin Dima 22 March 2014 16: 18
            +1
            I also think that we need strong leaders such as Aksyonov capable of leading people
            1. Hudo
              Hudo 22 March 2014 16: 30
              +7
              Quote: Rusin Dima
              I also think that we need strong leaders such as Aksyonov capable of leading people

              Where to lead? To Calvary? Aksyonov himself was "led" by the polite, if there were no naval bases there, polite and Perekop which could be blocked by three checkpoints - a long bunch of triumph would have come out of triumph. Look at things for real!
              1. Valrad
                Valrad 22 March 2014 21: 37
                0
                I do not agree. it would be the same only with shooting. ours would not have stopped.
              2. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 22 March 2014 22: 54
                0
                Quote: Hudo
                Aksyonov himself was "led" by the polite

                if Aksenov had not been there, there would not have been any "polite people" ...

                no need to look for excuses ... there are none ...
          4. Sailor Zheleznyak
            Sailor Zheleznyak 22 March 2014 17: 19
            +5
            Strikes are effective only against adequate governments, and for bandits is an empty phrase
      2. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... 22 March 2014 10: 14
        +51
        Will they send? ... Recall the words of the deputy governor of the Dnipropetrovsk region addressed to the East of Ukraine: "... No landings from the Maidan. No extremist statements. You need to give scum any promises, guarantees and make any concessions ... And hang ... You need to hang them later .... "
        Who will guarantee that they will not make any concessions now? What to expect from false and hypocritical creatures, the essence of which is already understood by the whole world ...?
        What the hell are letters, appeals, statements ???

        It's time to write an appeal to the people of Eastern Ukraine!
        1. 222222
          222222 22 March 2014 10: 43
          +5
          three hours behind a zombie box ..
          yesterday I watched 1 and 1 + 1 TV channels of Ukraine .. On the 1st Shuster's "Freedom of speech" .. Yulia Tymoshenko's throne speech .. During the program Magda (she receives calls and computer information from listeners for programs) ... I read a message from Odessa, they say, they say from Odessa that after the Maidan nothing has changed in the programs of the Odessa channels and it is about Russian propaganda (something like that) ...
          ... an hour later, with a tail, I went to another channel-1 + 1 - there, too, the show was watered .. and 22.45 the host of the program voiced the same information from Odessa ..
          What for the Ukrainian media "TEMNIKI" returned, with which the opposition fought so fiercely? Or a coincidence ??
        2. Magadan
          Magadan 22 March 2014 15: 54
          +8
          I agree completely. The only correct and at the same time LEGAL option is simply not to recognize the junta. However, there is no need to demand disconnection from Ukraine. Firstly, it is necessary to clean all Kievan Rus from scum, and secondly, do not expose yourself to the article.
          On the side of the juna, so far, there are only right-wingers and rapporteurs. In fact, there are not so many of them. It is necessary to act against them accordingly. If the rookies kidnap someone, then you need to finish off 2-3 rookies for caution. So at the time, the Khabarovsk lads stopped the cop's lawlessness. Pravoseki poke, fuck a couple pravosekov. I really hope for the Lugansk partisans. May God help them. Our common ancestors also at one time began with the small Zaporizhzhya Sich
          1. Hudo
            Hudo 22 March 2014 16: 35
            +2
            Quote: Magadan
            I really hope for the Lugansk partisans.


            From Lugansk. Partisan? Which ones? Virtual?
            1. Egor-dis
              Egor-dis 22 March 2014 20: 44
              +1
              Quote: Hudo
              Quote: Magadan
              I really hope for the Lugansk partisans.

              From Lugansk. Partisan? Which ones? Virtual?

              https://vk.com/video181507574_167920197?list=553a92a35caad1bb0e
              http://www.kp.ru/daily/26207.7/3094548/
          2. Russian_German
            Russian_German 22 March 2014 17: 33
            +11
            And how to hammer, how to resist the unarmed armed? Maidan won because he was armed. They can’t cope without Russia, even with Russia it will be difficult. It is sad but you need a precedent of great sacrifices, only then Russia can be able to get involved! Ukraine is a sovereign state and Russia cannot just pick up and send troops there. This will be aggression by any means! I agree, if you start wetting the SBU, then after the losses of 30 - 40 people, I think to speed up decrease from them, and the law enforcement agencies too, everyone wants to live! Everything is not easy, as Hudo writes, it’s easy to sit at a computer and give advice, and there people have families, children.
            1. Valrad
              Valrad 22 March 2014 21: 44
              +1
              Russia can intervene when blood is poured .... or when the legal representatives of the people officially turn to it. for example, like Aksenov. Russia is trying to act within the framework of laws .. well, or almost ... the main thing is that there would be visibility. because ALL THE WORLD is against her! HIS MOTHER !!! China alone is like an ally. so Russia also needs to be understood.
            2. Valrad
              Valrad 22 March 2014 21: 46
              0
              they will wet ordinary sbu..kov and the generals will give orders to them fearlessly
        3. Suhow
          Suhow 22 March 2014 22: 32
          0
          men. dissatisfied is not only in the south-east but also in the center
          It is necessary to look for contacts among themselves and unite ..
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 22 March 2014 22: 51
            0
            Revolution-Revolution, and grandmas need to be shared!
      3. avg
        avg 22 March 2014 11: 25
        +6
        Quote: Saratovets
        I think this overshooting of a bootet after their banderlogs are sent


        I understand that the deputies of the Lugansk regional council did not study the organization of revolutions and partisan struggles, but they could at least read Lenin. And there is a lot of things written about organizational work, including on propaganda work on the decomposition of army and police forces and their transition to the side of the people. And we need to help them more actively with money, instructors and so on.
        1. vlum
          vlum 22 March 2014 13: 09
          +3
          Yeah. If they themselves want it. While it seems like a drain of the interests of the people, a neat and tolerant release of steam.
        2. Magadan
          Magadan 22 March 2014 15: 56
          -1
          definitely necessary! to know where to transfer the labor penny to help the Lugansk partisans
        3. Valrad
          Valrad 22 March 2014 21: 47
          0
          yes everyone is afraid ... still people! the authorities have long been afraid of blood ... and here it is!
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 22 March 2014 07: 48
      +22
      The trouble is for all officials and deputies that they do not have the support of the people and are afraid of this people, just as they are afraid of Bandera, and no one knows more.
      The people of the South-East must, in the conditions of the seizure of power by Bandera, create their own bodies of power that will reflect their interests and their will, will be able to create a barrier to the penetration of Nazis by Bandera into their territory.
      1. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... 22 March 2014 10: 17
        +20
        It got to the point that activists are taken away in broad daylight right on the street (talking about Donetsk) !!! Mass stripping in progress! Underground activity? ... BUT TIME IS NOT ALREADY FOR IT!
        1. Magadan
          Magadan 22 March 2014 15: 57
          0
          have time! you just need to shug the rappers by stealing a couple of rappers
    3. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 22 March 2014 08: 03
      +24
      And where is the appeal to the Russian Federation represented by its executive bodies ???
      here it is not necessary to turn to the Russian Federation, but to the comrade AK-74, and the sooner the better. We have some people, but we can wait tomorrow to be better, but it will not be better with this power.
      1. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... 22 March 2014 11: 32
        +16
        You are right ... Waiting for adequate adequacy no longer makes any sense. All that they wanted to say to the East - they said ... They have every LAST scum in the FIRST ranks!
        Intoxicated by power, sober with blood. Regrettably this may sound, but it is.
        1. SSR
          SSR 22 March 2014 12: 52
          +4
          Quote: infinite silence ...
          You are right ... Waiting for adequate adequacy no longer makes any sense. All that they wanted to say to the East - they said ... They have every LAST scum in the FIRST ranks!
          Intoxicated by power, sober with blood. Regrettably this may sound, but it is.

          Eh ... I have a friend, Zhenya PVoshnik in Kharkov, when the Maidan began, I told him - Zhen, how much can I do? He told me - Rum, let Russia not climb, let’s figure it out for ourselves. Now I can’t reach him (((((
          From the very beginning it was clear that nothing good was to be expected from these maydans ... But no, the majority showed domestic indifference and almost none of the Ukrainian authorities stood up for the police and now? Now shout Wai Dot! And this is after they were betrayed and when frank bandits / raiders stood at the head, now if only the people rise it will be possible to turn this brown plague back ((((((
          I’m very worried about a friend .... Military and even air defense and even special (((((
          1. infinite silence ...
            infinite silence ... 22 March 2014 14: 13
            +6
            Roman, this is not an everyday indifference. People really work. And mass rallies were only for the weekend ... And the phrase: "Let's stir up the revolution for the weekend!" only in the mouth of an American sounds plausible.
            Nor is there a leader! And those that are identified, you yourself know where.
            1. SSR
              SSR 23 March 2014 11: 02
              0
              Eh I know .... Just gnawing bitterness.
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 22 March 2014 14: 46
        +16
        Quote: platitsyn70
        here it is not necessary to turn to the Russian Federation, but to the comrade AK-74, and the sooner the better. We have some people, but we can wait tomorrow to be better, but it will not be better with this power.


        The Komsomolskaya’s special forces met with an armed militia in southeastern Ukraine. The first Lugansk partisans ... The process has begun.

        1. Day 11
          Day 11 22 March 2014 16: 04
          0
          Somehow, he made a reservation with the FSB
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 22 March 2014 17: 59
            0
            Another video
            1. Valrad
              Valrad 22 March 2014 21: 56
              0
              mumble .... and dangerously mow under the Wahhabis. and it scares people. because a direct association. possible provocation
        2. Hudo
          Hudo 22 March 2014 16: 51
          +1
          Quote: Ascetic
          The Komsomolskaya’s special forces met with an armed militia in southeastern Ukraine. The first Lugansk partisans ... The process has begun.

          From Lugansk. But are there partisan detachments in reality? Are there any results of their activities (chatter on the camera does not count)?
          and so, everything is niac, and I am niac.
        3. Valrad
          Valrad 22 March 2014 21: 54
          0
          the guy is certainly well done but cannot formulate thoughts. no fuse ... no roar ... fire. people will not lead. maybe an ordinary fighter. But leaders are needed so that after the video, half of the country is looking for the headquarters of the partisans to join soon.
        4. Suhow
          Suhow 22 March 2014 23: 00
          0
          + although in my opinion a lot of information for the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs ...
    4. zzz
      zzz 22 March 2014 08: 39
      +11
      Quote: Riperbahn
      And where is the appeal to the Russian Federation represented by its executive bodies ???

      This is from another site:

      EVERYONE! EVERYONE! EVERYONE! MEGAREPOST! LIGHTNING!!!!
      WE WILL MAKE THE Mouth open
      Fascists !!!!!!! FLASH MOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AT
      SUPPORT TO YANUKOVICH !!!!!! IN SLAVIC
      FORGIVING AND PLEASE RETURN TO PERFORMANCE
      OUR DUTIES ON SATURDAY 22.03.2014/12/00 XNUMX:XNUMX I REMEMBER HE ASKED FORGIVENESS AT US !!!!!!
      MAXIMUM REPOST !!!!! PEOPLE! YANUKOVICH
      OUR PRESIDENT!!!!!!! WE CREATE A MODERN AND
      STRONG UKRAINE TOGETHER !!!! Show how we
      know how to forgive! Our nobility !!! it
      will discourage everyone! People, maximum repost! Come on! We are here, starting with Stakhanov,
      organize in the South-East
      the so-called flash mob to seek help from
      Yanukovych! the sentence is: on the weekend
      all day we go, we go to the entrance to the city, to where
      there is an inscription with its name. We are going there and are filming a video address to the President from
      the people of the Southeast! then this video
      We send to the Russian Federation and put it on everything
      possible resources on the Internet! Why u
      inscriptions? So they don’t say that it’s
      fabricated! so it will be seen that EVERY city is one in its requirements! What next
      Yanukovych and Putin themselves know what to do! then
      there will no longer be separatism, this is an appeal to
      legitimate authority! It is desirable to provide
      support of local media, regional centers
      with Rossiya24 channel, which regularly conducts live video broadcasts from the South-East and
      will provide us with wide coverage of events.
      Below is the text of the Appeal. Warn
      acquaintances and neighbors, all-all, to come and
      supported! Explain to them that we do not demand
      the fact that Yanukovych continued to rule us, I know that this will not be supported by anyone, but only
      he can help us and provide on legal
      grounds and assistance from the Russian Federation, and
      referendum in Crimea!
      Spread it please!

      What do you think, dear forum users, is this the right way? Share your opinion, pliz.
      1. zzz
        zzz 22 March 2014 08: 55
        +41
        I downloaded from another group ... There are such battles in Odnoklassniki !!!!

        DO NOT ATTACH!
        Kharkov, Kiev, Donetsk, Donbass, Odessa! Understand that Russia cannot legally bring peacekeepers to you without a UN resolution and until you yourself turn to Putin THROUGH your president Yanukovych! Understand that Putin tells you every day on TV that the only legitimate president is Yanukovych
        - and while he is still president - only Yanyk can officially apply to the UN and ask another state to bring peacekeeping troops to your
        territory. First, organize, select the most important measures and governors (not the Kiev governors), then contact Yanyk - REQUEST from Yanyk the Decree on the appointment of the mayors and governors of your choice who will be able to organize a referendum and how to prevent breakdown and provocations in the Crimea, then demand from the yanyka of the Decree on holding a referendum on Russian peacekeepers - only in this way will you be able to decide your own fate! we are worrying for you wholeheartedly, but legally, without your correct movements, we can only worry so far! and hurry up - you need to be in time until May!
        Russian information channel "Russia 24": tel .: (495) 221-94-81 fax :-( 499) 257-31-92 Radio Vesti FM: (495) 232-15-59 (live), ( 495) 955-83-74

        My opinion - it is necessary to demand a return on
        the territory of the South-East of Yanukovych, as a legitimate president and leader!
        Let him to us, and not quite cute and sometimes disgusting ... But let him still now work for the people! And he doesn’t sit with a hospitable friend in Russia! We are in danger every day here! We adults resist! Our children are fighting for our future, they are being detained (already
        70 leaders alone were detained), cripple, kill! we
        resist! And he? Will he sit out ?! No!

        Only he can ask Putin for help. Only he can centrally lead and direct resistance! Only he can voice the whole world on TV,
        at the UN what is happening in our Ukraine! That mess, cynicism and lawlessness created by the junta.
        1. GRune
          GRune 22 March 2014 09: 56
          +9
          There is logic in this ... Let Yanyk at least do something for the country!
          I can imagine how he, like Yeltsin, goes on the air and broadcasts: "I rested ... I'm back!" good
          Who does not remember, Yeltsin said something like I'm tired. I'm leaving.
        2. atalef
          atalef 22 March 2014 11: 40
          -8
          Quote: zzz
          My opinion - it is necessary to demand a return on
          the territory of the South-East of Yanukovych, as a legitimate president and leader!

          The leader? belay
          And what besides this freak there is already nobody?
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 22 March 2014 11: 54
            +9
            [quote = atalef] [quote = zzz
            And what besides this freak there is already nobody? [/ Quote]
            [quote = atalef] [quote = zzz] My opinion is that you need to demand a return to
            the territory of the South-East of Yanukovych, as a legitimate president and leader! [/ quote]
            The leader? belay
            And what besides this freak there is already nobody? [/ Quote]
            request this one .... d "de jure" is still the president of Ukraine ....
            1. atalef
              atalef 22 March 2014 16: 06
              -6
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              this one .... d "de jure" is still the president of Ukraine ...

              And?
              In what place can one wipe this de jure?
              Is it really not clear that legitimacy is not only the possession of the seal of the first person of the state - it is primarily legitimacy in the eyes of one's own country.
              1. specialist
                specialist 23 March 2014 01: 34
                +1
                As in the West - the main thing is de jure, but in de facto you can put it.
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 22 March 2014 13: 47
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            And what besides this freak there is already nobody?

            Unfortunately, this fishing rod is legally elected and there is no way to replace it now. And in fact, it is necessary to create the Ukrainian Dnieper Republic.
            1. vlum
              vlum 22 March 2014 14: 59
              +3
              Donetsk. Those. do not be afraid that there will be several republics. Donetsk conditionally in the East, and Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson - one more. Let the center hold itself, well, the West. And Transcarpathian Russia is also separate. If there will already be a Ukrainian Federation, then let it be viable along internal regional borders.
            2. atalef
              atalef 22 March 2014 16: 08
              -3
              Quote: APASUS
              But in essence it is necessary to create the Ukrainian Dnieper Republic.


              Quote: vlum
              Donetsk. Those. do not be afraid that there will be several republics. Donetsk conditionally in the East, and Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson - one more. Let the center hold itself, well, the West. And Transcarpathian Russia is also separate. If there will already be a Ukrainian Federation, then let it be viable along internal regional borders.

              Well will it be a federation? And what does it change. Russia is the same federation. Governors are appointed by the center, the powers of the subjects of the federation - semi-school parliaments and ministries - are all the same in Moscow.
              The same will be in Ukraine.
              1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
                Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 22 March 2014 16: 27
                +5
                Changes a lot. If separate republics are created (like Crimea) and put things in order on their territory, they officially ask for help from Russia to protect themselves from external aggression by the Westerners, Putin will have the opportunity to provide real help. And then, as they want, they connect, disconnect. The option that exists in Russia is not the only option for the federation. Which one you like, you can choose one.
              2. vlum
                vlum 22 March 2014 18: 13
                0
                And this is a completely correct observation that federations are different. winked
                Different federations give their subjects different rights. Yes, in Russia governors are appointed by the president, but not everywhere. Each subject of the federation has the right to vote. It may be changed to suit the conditions. Different languages ​​exist in different subjects. There is also the European experience of the federal republics.

                But the current Ukrainian constitution of 2004 - well, this is a document completely inoperative in modern conditions of Ukraine. Incidentally, very detailed criticism of this was given by the same Tymoshenko. Look.

                Federalization is still impossible without the development of a new constitution. The constitution will give expanded rights to all subjects of the federation.
              3. APASUS
                APASUS 22 March 2014 19: 08
                0
                Quote: atalef
                Well will it be a federation?

                I mean the Ukrainian Dnieper Republic - as a separate state.
          3. Sandov
            Sandov 22 March 2014 14: 43
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: zzz
            My opinion - it is necessary to demand a return on
            the territory of the South-East of Yanukovych, as a legitimate president and leader!

            The leader? belay
            And what besides this freak there is already nobody?

            Use as a legitimate preza and stop the invasion of banderlogs. Will Israel help us?
            1. atalef
              atalef 22 March 2014 16: 15
              -3
              Quote: Sandov
              Use as a legitimate preza and stop the invasion of banderlogs. Will Israel help us?

              You are all strange.
              As for Syria, you’re afraid that some sort of banduks will climb to you - although in theory they should be like us first
              Now Bandera seems to be climbing on us - we don’t worry and you don’t worry
              At the moment, a surge of anti-Semitism (according to our press, and they monitor it) is in Simferopol and southeastern regions
              .
              And about the help of Israel. We are the Minister of Foreign Affairs. said absolutely correct
              - it's not our business and there is nothing for us to climb into this anthill
              I think the two BROTHER nations will figure it out themselves without our help.
              1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
                Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 22 March 2014 16: 33
                +3
                And what does Syria have to do with it? We render assistance to a state recognized by the entire world community, and troops have not been introduced. At the moment, an invasion of the Russian armed forces is possible either at the request of a legitimately elected president, or at the request of a newly created independent state, or with outright slaughter from banderlogs, and only if people resist. The last option is extremely undesirable.
          4. sssla
            sssla 22 March 2014 16: 04
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            And what besides this freak there is already nobody?

            Do you have a run at the helm from the Arabs
          5. Suhow
            Suhow 22 March 2014 23: 05
            0
            I agree. not X. call Judah.
      2. Normman
        Normman 22 March 2014 09: 00
        +20
        I guess not without meaning! Yanukovych is a shotgun in the first act, which so far weighs on the wall. If a hotbed of resistance to the Maidan with its own armed forces is formed in the southeast, Yanukovych could become a factor of legitimacy.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 22 March 2014 10: 23
          +6
          Quote: Normman
          I guess not without meaning! Yanukovych is a shotgun in the first act, which so far weighs on the wall. If a hotbed of resistance to the Maidan with its own armed forces is formed in the southeast, Yanukovych could become a factor of legitimacy.

          Moreover, most of the residents of southeastern Ukraine voted for this extortion ...
        2. iConst
          iConst 22 March 2014 14: 11
          +2
          Quote: Normman
          Yanukovych is a shotgun in the first act, which so far weighs on the wall. If a hotbed of resistance to the Maidan with its own armed forces is formed in the southeast, Yanukovych could become a factor of legitimacy.

          It (the gun) is rather not inиa sieve on the wall, but standing in a closet or lying in the underground.
          But I agree with the second statement. This is a strong card.
      3. Magadan
        Magadan 22 March 2014 16: 02
        +3
        in my opinion a very correct move. In the end, Yanukovych is legitimate. And Yanukovych didn’t snatch his political opponents in broad daylight. And in the end: ALOOO MAIDAAN! So for what the hell did you maidan if YOUR ovary refused to sign the economic package of the Euroassociation? Che, maidan-hiroi, nai ali you once again?
      4. Valrad
        Valrad 22 March 2014 21: 58
        0
        Now this is the topic! The course is right and Yanukovych will ask Russia already.
    5. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 22 March 2014 09: 05
      +6
      Guys are not all at once. 90% prerequisites are needed as in Crimea is desirable. Russia cannot annex Lugansk region on the basis of this article.
      1. zzz
        zzz 22 March 2014 09: 09
        +3
        Normman, Pashhenko Nikolay

        Thanks for answers.
      2. Nick
        Nick 22 March 2014 11: 29
        +5
        Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
        But Russia cannot annex the Lugansk region on the basis of this article.

        Even at the time of Aleksei Mikhailovich, Ukraine was reunited with Russia, and was not annexed by Russia.
        So now, Ukraine will be reunited with Russia, but not annexed ...
        1. Pashhenko Nikolay
          Pashhenko Nikolay 22 March 2014 12: 39
          0
          You know, if you follow the time of Alexander Mikhailovich, then you need to draw a map in a completely different way.
      3. VADEL
        VADEL 22 March 2014 14: 39
        0
        Sadly, in this world, in our time sacrifices are needed (required). And the most heery thing about the sacrifice of children is "shtatovka democracy."
    6. delfinN
      delfinN 22 March 2014 09: 37
      +16
      But we will turn to them:
      1. Gloria45
        Gloria45 22 March 2014 12: 42
        +6
        “Novoross. info ”- The Armed Forces of Ukraine, controlled by the Kiev junta, are being reduced without any war or clashes with their own population. While in the Crimea the last Ukrainian units from the 22th group and the last ships and vessels of the Navy took the side of the people, a tank unit burned down in Ukraine itself, and yesterday the Su-24M of the 7th tactical aviation brigade of the Air Force of Ukraine collapsed and exploded.

        As reported, "On March 21, at 17.15 during scheduled flights near the Starokonstantinov airfield in the Khmelnytsky region, an accident occurred with a Su-24M aircraft of the 7th tactical aviation brigade of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The accident occurred during the landing."

        The crew safely ejected, and one of the few combat vehicles capable of flying into the air was completely destroyed.
    7. ATATA
      ATATA 22 March 2014 11: 57
      +4
      Quote: Riperbahn
      And where is the appeal to the Russian Federation represented by its executive bodies ???

      I do not understand what is the meaning of this statement?
      All of those in power, even in the southeast of Ukraine, piss in compote.
      What would they come to life in Lugansk there need polite green men.
      1. vlum
        vlum 22 March 2014 13: 15
        +1
        Yeah. Each of them will be wrapped in bulletproof vests and will be guarded around the clock.
    8. Vittt
      Vittt 22 March 2014 13: 44
      +4
      And how do you like this appeal! Neither give nor take - it would be better to learn the native language, losers!
  2. Roman Skomorokhov
    Roman Skomorokhov 22 March 2014 07: 35
    +26
    Something tells me that this appeal will be ignored at best.
    1. major071
      major071 22 March 2014 08: 37
      +15
      The appeal evokes what a twofold feeling. And everything seems to be correct, but at the same time it is somehow spineless. Or is this just the first try of the pen in order to see how the Kiev "authorities" will act, and then respond to the situation? Gentlemen-comrade deputies must be bolder, more decisive. Words cannot help here. hi
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 22 March 2014 08: 53
      +8
      Quote: Banshee
      Something tells me that this appeal will be ignored at best.

      And it tells me that such statements are winding snot on a fist. What "Verkhovna Rada" are they addressing to? Have you ever thought about its legitimacy and who and whom is now represented in it? It is necessary to learn from the Crimean people, and not to draw up scribbles ..
      1. MstislavHrabr
        MstislavHrabr 22 March 2014 09: 42
        +13
        Guys go to military units and persuade to go over to the side of the people and the legitimate president. If at least one battle with weapons goes over to the people’s side, I’m sure that Yanukovych will come ... Mothers go to military units, ask them for protection from atrocities and lawlessness ...
    3. vlum
      vlum 22 March 2014 13: 17
      +2
      By whom?
      By citizens?
      Or the Kiev authorities?
      Or banderlog? Banderlog accurately remember. Expect punitive raids.
    4. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 22 March 2014 13: 26
      +2
      I think it depends on who is contacting? In the Southeast, I don’t notice the zeal for Russia. Apparently, they should be given time to go under Bandera to understand who is who.
  3. Duke
    Duke 22 March 2014 07: 37
    +3
    So Eastern Ukraine has risen.
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 22 March 2014 07: 48
      +13
      Eastern Ukraine twists w ... booty
      1. soul
        soul 22 March 2014 08: 44
        +16
        In Eastern Ukraine, the situation is different from Crimea. Crimea is an island, and Aksyonov immediately blocked the access of Ukrainian security officials. And in Eastern Ukraine, the SBU took into account its Crimean mistakes and immediately began to close the activists. I don’t even know how best to act here. Can wait until Maidan makes another mistake?
        1. vlum
          vlum 22 March 2014 13: 19
          +1
          You can’t wait too long. Victims are still victims, not words in media reports.
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 22 March 2014 10: 35
        +8
        Quote: Riperbahn
        Eastern Ukraine twists w ... booty
        That is SO the behavior of the residents of the southeast looks for those who do not know the realities of what is happening ...
        It is necessary to realize that both ordinary citizens and individuals exposed to power are under the yoke of the apparatus of violence, which is rampant throughout the country.
        And the so-called Nova Vlada devotes to the East, as a stronghold of "separatism" SPECIAL ATTENTION...

        NECESSARY external assistance at the level of political and economic special operations is needed to turn the tide.
        1. Anper
          Anper 22 March 2014 11: 40
          +9
          Quote: Corsair
          External help is REQUIRED

          So that's the thing. Because the whole Maidan received organizational and good financial assistance both from the outside and from the inside. Therefore, it was possible to stand for 3 months - fed, watered, dressed, put on shoes. And utility payments were not sent. And they prepared military force not on the Maidan - it was trained in advance for decades, just as the PS bought weapons not with its own money.
          Maybe I will tell sedition, but it is not known what would have happened to Crimea without external support - it is hardly possible to organize and arm so quickly without smart specialists and money behind them. What would ordinary Crimeans, non-military, do if I stood against them PS with Kalash? Someone here wrote that AK in this case is a weighty argument.
          Here, for starters, we need at least competent specialists in organizing people and, again, money. After all, again - first Kalash’s SS, and now the entire state repressive machine led by the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Yes, under the guidance of Amer’s specialists. These are 5 hryvnias by SMS Not needed.
          And what can be really opposed - only appeals and peaceful demonstrations. How the events went so fast last weekend - they immediately decapitated the movement, put activists in action. Again, it takes time for a new person to appear, then at least coordinate. Who, do you think, will work faster ?
          1. vlum
            vlum 22 March 2014 13: 30
            +2
            All right!

            For example, an ordinary deputy of the regional council, as in this article ... Or even members of the Presidium of the regional council. Can they get threats from banderlogs? And what about the threats of arrest on behalf of the Kiev SBU? Is a member of the Presidium somehow protected on the street? ... If, in fact, all the answers are as it seems to me now, then these very members of the Presidium were in a hurry to publish their appeal. Before publication, you should already think hard about what are the options for the development of events.
    2. Duke
      Duke 22 March 2014 07: 48
      +2
      Minus for what explain? Eastern Ukraine is more inert, but it also acts, though not as actively as Crimea. And with less unity.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 22 March 2014 10: 39
        +11
        Quote: Duke
        Eastern Ukraine is more inert, but it also acts, though not as actively as Crimea. And with less unity.

        Crimea was MUCH easier ... If the presence of Russia were also strong in the east, I’m sure things would be completely different
      2. Demon0n
        Demon0n 22 March 2014 10: 39
        +11
        Quote: Duke
        Minus for what explain? Eastern Ukraine is more inert, but it also acts, though not as actively as Crimea. And with less unity.

        I didn’t set a minus ...
        East and South are (in my opinion) counterproductive. Those. are engaged in nonsense, and with sad (predictable) consequences (without taking into account the possible actions of the Kremlin). At this rate, very soon all active citizens will be isolated from society. "Fortunately," they themselves ask for this, shining with their thoughts, "passport data" (apparently to facilitate the activities of the SBU and foreign intelligence), etc.
        If it is not yet clear, then the situation has changed for the south and east not for the better. The unexpected development of the situation for foreign agents of influence has already been compensated for and a "first-order operational plan" has been introduced. If it is available, then it turns out that they did not prepare for the power option (by indirect signs). The action plan had to be developed urgently. It is this and only this that can explain the belated reaction and confusion (perhaps the operation in Crimea played a certain role). This provided time and opportunity for such scenarios to be realized with a minimum of resistance. They did not use it (too many emotions, and no one wanted to think about it with their heads, I suspect that there was no consensus either ... until now).
        The bottom line: the initiative has been lost, the opposition has increased many times ... Citizens have not yet realized the need to use other methods (of a different order) and continue to use the old methods (and not very thought out). A kind of belated reaction to a change in the situation (imagine that you are preparing an attack on a weakened defense sector; while you are preparing a plan, the enemy has already calculated and deployed additional forces sufficient to minimize their losses; and ... you give the order to start of their operation, not knowing about strengthening the enemy’s defense).
  4. andrei332809
    andrei332809 22 March 2014 07: 37
    +8
    sensibly, calmly. only then will the actions follow? will the people wake up?
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 22 March 2014 07: 40
      +14
      You cannot correct the situation in Ukraine by statements alone, real actions are needed, but they have not yet taken place.
      1. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 22 March 2014 08: 52
        +4
        This is one of the actions. From the correct initial actions. As they say, announced by "voice". And from not very strong vowels, there can be an organization of groups, fives, ten, hundreds. Here, you don't even need to invent anything new. Of course, with the definition and "improvised means". You still can't do without this.
    2. Vittt
      Vittt 22 March 2014 17: 04
      +1
      Quote by andrei332809: "sensible, calm. But will the actions follow? Will the people wake up?"

      It won’t wake up. Tactical speed was lost (otherwise we would have been in Kiev and met the Russians with gladioli - they would have vainly stuck it out. Dka Yanyka). We jumped. Believe me, Pu will not go any further. It was necessary right away while the goblins sucked a carrot-maidanka, to go It was necessary to Chop, at least.
      Having taken ALL Ukraine - all the same, the sanctions would have been the same, several airborne divisions would have made Kiev the kindest city in the world, Chernigov would have understood that he was still Russian, Odessa (in fact, everything is clear), and so .. .....
      And with Bandera - as in the 40-50s - in any other way.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 22 March 2014 17: 10
        0
        Well, are we watching the "assault" of Belbek online? They say they have delivered an ultimatum http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/politics/3323190-ukraynskym-voennym-v-belbeke-v
        ydvynuly-ultymatum
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 22 March 2014 18: 56
          0
          The Ukrainian army is somehow not merging. There is no action WITHOUT SHOOTING !!! At least they would have clashed on fists or something: company-to-company, platoon-to-platoon, one (best) -on one (best) --- everything will be more interesting (and not so shamefully)
          1. vlum
            vlum 22 March 2014 19: 49
            0
            So they "merged" there, or does the state of non-standing continue? I was distracted from that window and could miss.

            In general, there is a link on YouTube on this channel. Now I will copy the info from there.
            1. vlum
              vlum 22 March 2014 19: 57
              +1
              http://belbek62.com.ua/novosti/kak-eto-proiskhodit.html
              I'll start with the most important thing - they merge us. Moreover, the most offensive is our government.

              After almost a month, comes the realization that the most dangerous enemies are not even Russian troops. They act quite competently in terms of seizing the territory.
              The most dangerous enemies turned out to be the leadership and our government. With its complete inaction and blurring of the eyes of the people. The situation described in some media and press conferences is fundamentally different from the real one.
              Today I found an interview Minister Oborny Tenyukh that he maintains contact with all parts in the territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, that all relevant orders were given and the situation is under control.
              The orders were ... Two in number: "to remain in place" and "it is allowed to use weapons." All. I won't even talk about "the situation is under control."
              And what is offered during the assault? Especially with the tactics used by the Russian troops, as was the case with the capture of the KP in Sevastopol, women and civilians go first, then self-defense, and then Martians.
              Not a single intelligible answer has been received ...

              Now on the territory of Ukraine, armed units have been created practically from civilians. At the same time, more than 20 thousand professional military men were abandoned in Crimea. Unique logic. Although, if we consider this as another step to "drain" both Crimea and other regions of Ukraine, the decision becomes quite clear.

              I was very pleased with the order to detain all servicemen at the exit from Crimea. By the way, we have already started to work it out. They take them off the cars, put on handcuffs and take them away. And this is for the fact that for almost a month they stood for nothing, surrounded by the enemy, without orders, without the slightest support from the government. That's it.
              There is a firm opinion that it is simply beneficial for our comrades in Kiev to have all the parts taken. And for this, all this mess is dragging on so much.

              For all this time, there was huge support only from the population of Ukraine. Thank you all for the calls, for the SMS, for the barbed wire (which our state could not buy for 8 years), for gas generators, for a searchlight .. Yes, there’s a lot more for that. Probably, only because of this support they still have not given up and are trying to do something at least on their own.

              And what is happening now? They handed out a ragged hat to the people with the inscription "Let's help our army!" .. Honestly, it's a shame to look at this ..

              In Perevalnoye, we had the 36th part of the coastal defense. Why is there no order to withdraw this unit? A thousand well-trained, professional military men. It was necessary to wait, without giving orders, without providing support, of the moment when people would just get tired of standing just like that? And with the feeling that they were simply abandoned and no one needs them, will they quit, go to the other side? I do not blame them at all. Yes, many remained true to the oath. But many simply disappointed completely from the fact that they mean nothing to the government.

              I call on the people of Ukraine, all who understand what is happening. A directive on the withdrawal of our troops is needed. I will say this, many even those who surrendered were ready to sacrifice their lives if necessary. But there is nothing more stupid than dying for nothing - because of an order not given, because some are afraid to answer for it later. There were two ways out: either send troops to help our children in the Crimea and start military operations, or withdraw them. The first we slammed, the second is almost the same.

              A sad story turns out .. but as it is ..
              1. iConst
                iConst 23 March 2014 14: 08
                -1
                Quote: vlum
                I will say this, many even those who surrendered were ready to sacrifice their lives if necessary. But there is nothing more stupid than dying for nothing - because of an order not given, because some are afraid to answer for it later. There were two ways out: either send troops to help our children in the Crimea and start military operations, or withdraw them. The first we slammed, the second is almost the same.

                Who to give up? Why die? Introduce what help? What kind of fighting?
                Did you smoke grass?

                I think the post of this fruit is a subtle provocation or delirium of a sick person.
          2. vlum
            vlum 22 March 2014 19: 56
            0
            Yes. A man in camouflage took off his camera at the very end. The gates were already open by that time. Let's wait how this "storm" "will be described on Ukrainian sites.
            1. vlum
              vlum 22 March 2014 22: 40
              0

              This was announced by the head of the Crimean media center of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Vladislav Seleznev on his Facebook.

              “17.00 assault on Belbek. During the assault, representatives of the Crimean self-defense broke into the territory of the military unit. The gate to the unit was broken with the help of an armored personnel carrier. Sources claim that during the assault shots were heard, and at least 6 BTR-80 units were involved in the assault. The data on the victims is checked, ”the report said.


              UNIAN did not deceive expectations.
  5. lg41
    lg41 22 March 2014 07: 38
    +45
    It is not heard from the authors of the appeal that they are leaders. VERY, VERY toothless appeal. These deputies just want to survive, keeping their own. They refuse to lead the fight - conclusion from the text of the appeal
    These are cabinet workers, officials, not leaders of PEOPLE
    1. Saratovets
      Saratovets 22 March 2014 07: 44
      +7
      They set the stage, if they will be repressed, they will have a moral right to act like Crimea
      1. Normman
        Normman 22 March 2014 07: 53
        +19
        Calmly and thoroughly. If you do not see real painstaking work, this does not mean that it is not being carried out. Very competent, legally verified appeal, from the series "We warned you!"
      2. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 22 March 2014 09: 55
        +2
        if they are subject to repression they will have the moral right to act like Crimea
        The country has a coup d'etat and an unconstitutional junta. What other moral rights do you need? You just need to word-for-word and letter-by-letter to comply with the existing legislation regarding the establishment of constitutional order and the Criminal Code to help them.
        The country slides into a systemic crisis
        To crawl into it, you must first emerge from it, even for a moment. If you take all the time, while Kiev had independence, then the systemic crisis has always been there. Since the time of the violent veche of Kievan Rus.
        All stable intervals were only under external control. Either under the alien Varangians, then under the ON, then under Russia, then under the USSR
    2. Kite
      Kite 22 March 2014 09: 32
      +5
      For the authors of this appeal, Tymoshenko took up the job. laughing fellow I read in the Ukrainian news that she called the current Rada a gadyushnik, called for early elections of Rada deputies, and promised to exclude oligarchs from politics in the new government. The question after that: did Merkel give her advice in Germany? And it seems that our President, in communication with Merkel, gave similar arguments. The power is in the truth, that's how it is not cool, but this path must be returned. And one more thing: rumors slipped through that the eggman was discussing the transfer of the Galician regions to Poland. This is a disgusting affair, and on the other hand, the Galician mentality is incompatible with the Ukrainian mentality, between them and eastern Ukraine it is necessary to have a dividing line in the form of a large autonomy of territories, or to throw these Galician people into their "proto-ukria" for the sake of calming and developing all of Ukraine.
      1. vlum
        vlum 22 March 2014 15: 02
        +3
        Exclude oligarchs from politics? Will she exclude herself too? No? Well then it's all a lie and pi ... zh
    3. polite people
      polite people 22 March 2014 09: 42
      +2
      Where are your leaders ???????
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 22 March 2014 10: 40
        +3
        Quote: polite people
        Where are your leaders ???????

        Arrested ...
      2. Suhow
        Suhow 22 March 2014 23: 36
        0
        Alas, no ... I hope temporarily ...
    4. xan
      xan 22 March 2014 13: 46
      +2
      Quote: lg41
      These are cabinet workers, officials, not leaders of PEOPLE

      It seems that serious people who understand the power algorithm have a chance to go down in history and not sit out in slots like cockroaches. It is necessary to seriously take power through the establishment of control over the cops and the dispersal of the local SBU.
      I admit that this is just a development of the situation.
  6. ilya_82
    ilya_82 22 March 2014 07: 41
    +8
    they can wipe with their many pieces of paper, no one will listen to them in Kiev. They understand only power, and these impotent clerks can not offer anything, because they themselves are afraid of the people, because they stole a lot and are afraid that the people will ask them.
    1. Normman
      Normman 22 March 2014 07: 58
      +13
      I think this is a game on the nerves. Mad dogs (usurpers of power in Kiev) are poked with a stick (with a competent statement) in the teeth. Naturally they will try to bite! And once again it will become clear to everyone that you cannot talk with them - they must be beaten! This is similar to the preparation of casus belli (a legal term in Roman law: a formal reason for declaring war)
      1. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... 22 March 2014 10: 29
        +5
        Your words, but to God’s ears!
      2. iConst
        iConst 22 March 2014 14: 19
        0
        Quote: Normman
        Mad dogs (usurpers of power in Kiev) are poked with a stick (with a competent statement) in the teeth. Naturally they will try to bite! And once again it will become clear to everyone that you cannot talk with them

        All this, forgive me, to whom? Once "once again" - then to people in Russia and some (less than we would like) part of Ukraine.

        Geyropa and Merkosiya are sitting behind an iron information curtain.
        If at least 15% of the current state of affairs reached ordinary people and officials, believe me, there would be a completely different reaction.

        Such as McCain, who know the truth, but they have a very clear opposite task a little.
        1. Normman
          Normman 23 March 2014 08: 33
          0
          This must be done for the story! When events begin to suck, disassemble under a microscope, hang labels. So that all accusations of aggression on the part of Russia are untenable. The document, which was signed by the regional council deputies, does not allow our "partners" in the west to claim with impunity that the Kiev usurpers are supported in the east of Ukraine.
  7. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 22 March 2014 07: 46
    +7
    The sobering begins not only of ordinary citizens of Ukraine, but also of officials. And actually what can you expect from "dumb" thugs and conversations on them have no effect. A mad dog can be stopped only by putting a bullet in its forehead. And if the deputies of the South-East of Ukraine want to protect their citizens from the atrocities of pro-fascist elements, then this can only be done by force. These geeks understand only the language of force, and any statements for them are like the sound of the wind! Citizens of Ukraine to arms! The fatherland is in danger!
    1. infinite silence ...
      infinite silence ... 22 March 2014 11: 34
      +12
      When bitches of children come to power, the dog’s life begins for everyone.
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 22 March 2014 14: 47
        +3
        Quote: infinite silence ...
        When bitches of children come to power, the dog’s life begins for everyone.

        Gold words. Banderlogov will stop only by force. They know that they are arrogant Saxons. The Phasington Regional Committee is steering.
  8. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 22 March 2014 07: 47
    +19
    Appeal to those WHO DOES NOT SOLVE ANYTHING in Ukraine, from WHOM they DO NOT ASK!
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 22 March 2014 07: 51
      +7
      + subscribe. They are not asked and nothing depends on them. Inert officials wrote on their own. It’s a pity to lose a habitable place. Protect us, luu-yu-di!
    2. infinite silence ...
      infinite silence ... 22 March 2014 11: 36
      +4
      For them, the state is like a bicycle: at the top of the handlebars, at the bottom of the chain ... Only they forget that if the chain flies, they’ll go to hell ...
      1. iConst
        iConst 22 March 2014 13: 43
        +1
        Quote: infinite silence ...
        For them, the state is like a bicycle: at the top of the handlebars, at the bottom of the chain ...

        What about the pedals? belay
        1. infinite silence ...
          infinite silence ... 22 March 2014 16: 34
          +1
          And about the pedals I want to say IM separately ...

          -Guys, pedal !!! So far ..... have not given.
  9. Cossacks
    Cossacks 22 March 2014 07: 50
    +6
    It's time to move on to decisive action. It should be borne in mind that Zapadintsy were servants of the Poles with the appropriate psychology. They understand only the language of power. Dostoevsky at one time justified it, see PSS v.30.
    1. Anper
      Anper 22 March 2014 13: 06
      +5
      Quote: Cossacks
      It's time to move on to decisive action.

      I live on memory. Nobody here is poisoning us for the Russian language now, we say what we want. Most of the population is beyond Maidan. The right sector, led by the star of YouTube, has disappeared from the square - we must understand that new goals, places of deployment, etc. have been launched, but I want to howl with the wolf all together.
      Nevertheless, I am against decisive action (consider military) - why should Russian soldiers put their heads here? They will be considered by the population to be the occupiers, this stupid head-on by the media, and the methods of confronting the "Bilshovitsky occupants" are inherited from the OUN-UPA.
      But I can not offer anything constructive.
      1. xan
        xan 22 March 2014 13: 55
        +3
        Quote: Anper
        But I can not offer anything constructive.

        Yes, it is clear that we must wait for the development of the situation. But I suspect that this development of the situation will lead to serious blood, and permission to even more blood.
        Think about it - now push it until it’s far gone, or then, when you have to repress thousands and push them to prisons, not counting the shed blood of innocent civilian and Russian soldiers - I doubt that even reformatted Ukrainian security forces will be able to do this. You will have to clean the entire memory, the elections are useless there, the Natsik people's martyrs-heroes will win.
      2. Smoke
        Smoke 22 March 2014 15: 02
        +2
        everything is clear, only understand one thing - Bandera is a bastard! Because Bandera Shukhevych and their followers Hitler hall ... they kissed ... And that means the current followers of the OUN The right sector Yarosh Tyagnivbok and others - also zapadlo! They are not handshakes, do you understand? Don’t worry about the Russian soldiers - there will be experienced warriors who have passed both Crimea and Narym, knowing what they are going to, what awaits them, with inner confidence that they are right. Therefore, the fact that they will be accepted there as invaders - well ... let it be so, let's see whose truth is stronger.

        ps I don’t understand at all. It’s just that the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs didn’t understand the mind - gay or who he is ... but his subordinates themselves MUST BE obliged to shoot like a mad dog. How can one obey such power, how to respect it? You are there completely collapsed with oak ...
        1. Suhow
          Suhow 22 March 2014 23: 52
          +1
          Guys can’t bring your soldiers into us - coffins somehow don’t add fraternal feelings, and those killed on both sides will cause hatred among us. Yes, and in the future confrontation with the West (the war for resources) this will greatly weaken us ..
      3. vlum
        vlum 22 March 2014 15: 10
        +3
        it is highly doubtful that polite people will climb to Galicia. Moreover, few people pay attention to this, but almost all military force, equipment, ammunition from these territories have been removed. Maybe migrated to caches? I don’t know, but the regular parts seemed to come out. And the arsenals are taken out. What do you have to do there? Inadequate youngsters exciting? No, really. Fence around the perimeter with wire, Taruta dug up a ditch (he had already trained) - sit yourself in the sun, bask
        1. Anper
          Anper 22 March 2014 16: 23
          +2
          Quote: vlum
          it is highly doubtful that polite people will climb to Galicia

          They have nothing to do here; they are not psychiatrists.
          You can, of course, go from the other side - from the informational one, but there is work for more than a dozen years, all sorts of centers for democratic initiatives (read American initiatives) - more than a thousand, Kiev - Mohyla Academy, whose students maidanil most of all - 50% American grant-eater and so on. Some hopelessness ...
          On the other hand, those who were actively sitting on the Maidan informational needle, now began to experience something like breaking - on all sites like Censor.no argumentation turned into continuous psychosis, and those older ones ran to the doctors with pressure, heart, etc. d. etc. Saves constantly warmed schizophrenia with war, digging ditches, some kind of incomprehensible 2-week courses of military training. But a return to common sense is not yet visible.
          And one more thing. Now you can’t do a lot of caches - forests are actively cut down and cut down. Unless in cities.
          Yes, you can still play on your favorite Ukrainian animal - the toad, if you offer the "ethnic Russians" some fantastic conditions for resettlement and residence with wide subsequent advertising. This will be effective - it, you know, is a shame when your neighbor lives better, especially in the damned Mosk @ lia.
      4. Suhow
        Suhow 22 March 2014 23: 46
        +1
        I agree with your opinion. I live in the center of Ukraine in the catfish center almost, we don’t
        I have to unite in consonants as I don’t know. Through the network - failure, but I don’t know how.
  10. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 March 2014 07: 51
    +3
    As the State Department wrote a plan to the current government of Ukraine, so they spy. Only they were probably advised to disguise, cover, not endure ... But they do not bother, they feel that time is running out, and as soon as possible they want to get an Americanos salary and residence permit ...
  11. siberalt
    siberalt 22 March 2014 07: 54
    +10
    We ought to get out of the mines early. There is a good idea about the Novorossky League along the Dnepropetrovsk arc. Nobody will give liberation, they themselves need to do something. But the Russians do not abandon their own.
  12. Tatarus
    Tatarus 22 March 2014 07: 59
    +4
    "We demand an objective investigation of the armed provocation committed by representatives of the Luhansk branch of the Udar party on February 22, 2014 near the building of the regional state administration and regional council, as a result of which people were injured." - Another wagging backwards. And ours and yours. A blow is being fought against the Pravosekov there, and they are urging him under investigation. XXXXly what to take from them.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 22 March 2014 11: 54
      +3
      Quote: Tatarus
      Both ours and yours. Beat there against right-wingers beats and they are pushing him under investigation. HHOHHly what to take from them.

      WHAT ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT???
      Your perverted idea of ​​who is who in the realities of Ukraine HARM in the coverage of this issue among Russians (confirmation of this-4 "plus" from thoughtless users).
      You unknowingly or intentionally distort the situation in Ukraine am THEREFORE, "MINUS".

      Information: “BLOW (Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform) Vitalia Klitschka” - a political party, as I wish, Hero of Ukraine, a huge audience, champion in boxing with Vitaliy Klitschko.
      24 quarter 2010 rock and roll hour after-hours VII welcome to the political party “Nova Kraina” bulo 7 lipnaya 2010 roku new name of the party bula registered with the Ministry of Justice of Ukraine.

      I think no translation is needed ... What kind of "figure" Klitschko is, I think everyone understood.
      1. Tatarus
        Tatarus 22 March 2014 12: 10
        +2
        So I really messed up. I mean stronghold
      2. Suhow
        Suhow 22 March 2014 23: 59
        0
        21 on the radio listened to the deputy Gerashchenko in my opinion, a style like Freedom.
  13. Normman
    Normman 22 March 2014 08: 00
    +14
    Very brave people, deputies of the Lugansk regional council. In fact, they cause fire on themselves! I applaud while standing!
    1. pticas
      pticas 22 March 2014 08: 41
      +6
      SUPPORT!
      1. atalef
        atalef 22 March 2014 11: 45
        +2
        Quote: Normman
        Very brave people, deputies of the Lugansk regional council. In fact, they cause fire on themselves! I applaud while standing!

        Quote: pticas
        SUPPORT!

        those. You, as a citizen of Ukraine (instead of at least doing something) - just applaud standing up ---- laughing
        I remember when Gaddafi was bombed, the Internet was simply torn from the number of likes in support of Libya --- helped?
        1. Anper
          Anper 22 March 2014 13: 17
          +3
          Alexander, why are you so intolerant! crying As soon as you appear with a comment, this comment contains a message to a long and empty bickering. Maybe you are feeding on the mental energy of people in various forums? It’s a kind of Internet vampire. You will need to calculate the algorithm for your appearance on the site. smile
        2. iConst
          iConst 22 March 2014 13: 48
          0
          Quote: atalef
          as a citizen of Ukraine (instead of at least doing something) - you just applaud while standing

          I remember the film "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen".
          Voglas "God save the Queen" with a mug of beer in hand - the maximum degree of patriotism living outside the metropolis ...
        3. Ascetic
          Ascetic 22 March 2014 14: 52
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          those. You, as a citizen of Ukraine (instead of at least doing something), just applaud while standing


          the poem is remembered in the subject. Yesterday I wanted to lay out Romanov. On his post about laziness, but something is not there today, but it’s just in topic. Not mine, I don’t know the author. preserved in bookmarks I don’t remember where already.

          When in history happened
          Sometimes critical days
          Marvelous heroes were born
          And they helped Russia out.
          Here Peresvet, Pozharsky, Minin,
          Sailors and Bagration -
          Do not count the names, we remember them now
          And sing the glory of eternity.
          But approached, ripened time
          Heroes crawl out into the light.
          Or are we not fit for a tribe?
          Years go by - there are no heroes!

          I’ll go to the steppe, I’ll break the barrow,
          Naidu decayed underground
          The backbone of the unknown hero
          And shout loudly: “Hey hero,
          It's time to get up, a country in collapse
          Wake up, go save the country
          Until everyone has stolen,
          As long as there's something at stake
          Don't sleep like a drunken hairdresser
          What drank the whole cologne!
          And he answered: “Go to ...,
          My earthly path has long been accomplished! ”

          And again I: “Rise, my dear,
          You miserable country
          Already tired of waiting. She is above the abyss
          Dashing times are coming
          It's time to take a sword, rise from the dust
          And punish the adversary!
          And he answered: “You went to ...,
          Let me lie still! ”

          But I again: “My brave hero,
          We cannot do without you
          Neither go into battle, nor do business,
          None of the sorrow of the fatherland,
          Drive out the bastards as skillfully
          You drove them in a memorable year! ”
          And he answered: “I have done a thing,
          So do you! Went to… !"

          And heeding the heroic message
          Moody, unshaven, lazy and listless
          I wander through life, I'm sad
          Where the hero pointed me.
        4. Normman
          Normman 22 March 2014 17: 16
          +1
          I live in Novosibirsk. Since when is Ukraine?
        5. Suhow
          Suhow 23 March 2014 00: 04
          +1
          If someone doesn’t live in Lugansk, for example? Everyone does something himself and one must be careful, otherwise the article is for separatism. I hope you understand.
  14. Afinogen
    Afinogen 22 March 2014 08: 02
    +4
    Without paid clowning, that’s all, now banderlogs with sticks will come and explain everything to them intelligibly. We must act and not rush in big words. In Crimea, the government organized resistance, raised people.
    1. iConst
      iConst 22 March 2014 13: 51
      +1
      Quote: Athenogen
      No paid clowning

      Free clownery.

      I can understand a lot, but not to the same degree of illiteracy! Let's respect our language a little.
  15. individual
    individual 22 March 2014 08: 04
    +6
    The people of Ukraine have not yet understood, have not matured in order to take legal power in their region. They hope that somewhere in Kiev in the bankrupt Rada they will solve their problems.
    The Verkhovna Rada is a gathering of deputies of the former use, the former power of Yanukovych, de facto having lost legitimacy.
    Power in Ukraine lies in the rubble and conflagration of the Maidan.
    Even the centurions of the Fuhrer Yarosh and the Udar brigades cannot take this power.
    It all depends on the peoples and decisions of the regional administrations of the regions of the South-East of Ukraine.
    It all depends on the determination to defend your future.
    1. lg41
      lg41 22 March 2014 08: 33
      +20
      To be a successful leader in the eastern regions of Ukraine now - you need to be trained in safe work, to apply this knowledge in practice constantly, to have force cover, to have enough money. otherwise the SBU will be taken away in an unknown direction
  16. Prokrust
    Prokrust 22 March 2014 08: 30
    +2
    Algorithm of Crimea: appeal to the people, appeal to the Russian Federation, self-defense units, a statement on withdrawal from Ukraine, a referendum and further on the thumb .... Only who implements it? There were people in Crimea.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 22 March 2014 10: 46
      +4
      Quote: Prokrust
      There were people in Crimea.

      + factor of the presence of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, do not forget about it!
      The southeast is ONE-ONE-ONE with a junta that subjugates the entire apparatus of violence, which is used without a twinge of conscience.
      In the overwhelming majority of cases, I will note that it APPLIES ILLEGALLY, even if we omit the "legitimacy" of the regime itself outside the "framework" ...
    2. vlum
      vlum 22 March 2014 15: 15
      +1
      There were "polite people", is that what you wanted to say?
  17. Igarr
    Igarr 22 March 2014 08: 30
    +9
    Hello to all...
    It is interesting to read comments. More interesting article.
    Immediately you can see - "hawks", moderate, wise and these ... like them, of which we have few here - Radikalov. Pleases.
    ...
    Brothers, we ourselves make fun of, it happens, over the statements of the abnormal in the VR, Timoshenko, the rest of the "scraps" - a vague, confused stream of consciousness, except for one - askkalyaks against Gilyaks, right now, let's jump and once again take advantage of someone. Let's suck girly fingers, between the scuffle of prosecutors.
    ..
    And then, after all, the people who govern the region said - "rulers", you are not capable. You only make it worse. You create tension. You yourself are leading things to the fact that the people will begin to act differently.
    I can see it - between the lines.
    I can see that for such a statement - it is impossible to attract. But - to shit, out of fear - from the fact that almost openly said - "we have everything ready to fill you up, freaks" - easy.
    INDUSTRIAL East. People work. Families provide. Go to Maydayn, they have no time to drive.
    And before you go out - you need to create - BASE for exit.
    Well reckless young growth - no family, no children, no long-term obligations. Kissed, and no one special problems.
    And - a peasant with two children, a wife, relatives, household, loans .....
    .
    Good statement.
    Good comments by Normanna.
    Wait.
    1. polite people
      polite people 22 March 2014 09: 43
      +1
      Faster.
    2. vlum
      vlum 22 March 2014 15: 19
      +2
      So after all maidanut they are just such in the bulk - neither children, nor ... any special everyday problems. Stoned by some foolishness? Well so and there were no problems there.
  18. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 22 March 2014 08: 31
    +2
    People wake up
  19. jPilot
    jPilot 22 March 2014 08: 31
    +2
    Where are the rest? Or "there are few real violent, so there are no leaders" until they themselves start to unite against the atrocities of the "right sector" and the thugs will be even worse, with them "my house on the edge I know nothing" will not work. These are thugs who have tasted blood and impunity, they will understand only strength and solidarity
  20. Gagarin
    Gagarin 22 March 2014 09: 06
    +9
    SCENARIO OF CRIMEA IN THE EAST IS IMPOSSIBLE, ANOTHER WAY ON HANDS.
    MOVEMENTS SHOULD BE DIFFICULT, OTHER ON PUTINSKY.
  21. aviamed90
    aviamed90 22 March 2014 09: 08
    +7
    I did not appreciate the appeal.

    I myself have a relationship with Lugansk and I know the situation there - the old people live there. I follow this.

    Luhansk residents humiliate and make it clear that they are second-class citizens or even, in general, not citizens, and the representatives of the Luhansk Regional Council in response humiliately carry something unintelligible and tolerant. As if "Natsik" not to offend.
    Is this an expression of position?

    So what exactly should Luhansk residents do?

    And let's see what next Mr. Yaytsenyuh.

    Apparently, the continuation will follow ...
  22. maxim1
    maxim1 22 March 2014 09: 24
    +9
    The difference between the East and Crimea is the impossibility of attracting silent polite people in masks with weapons. Their influence on the situation can replace the mass protests of citizens. For this, an incentive is needed so that getting up from sofas near the TV or chairs at the computer turns out to be a natural internal desire of everyone, his conscious decision to influence the situation.
    For this civil character, this incentive may be something that will significantly complicate their lives right now, or an awareness of this significant deterioration in the very near future.
    The shock state of society after the recent events in the country is still insufficient, although the number of mental depressions has increased by an order of magnitude.
    In short, the faster the power worsens the financial situation of citizens, the faster it will be swept away by a wave of popular anger. And power does just that, which draws near its end.
    1. levandos
      levandos 22 March 2014 11: 31
      0
      If without a lot of blood, then the Federation-Referendum-Russia! So far, the UN Charter has not been rewritten for a new one.
  23. aviamed90
    aviamed90 22 March 2014 09: 38
    +3
    There are enough healthy forces in the Luhansk region: the population of the Don Cossack villages in the east of the region, reserve officers from the disbanded Voroshilovgrad military school and the 46th motorized rifle division, the Russian-speaking and "thinking" Ukrainian population (and there are quite a few of them), mining collectives ...

    This is power!

    The "new" authorities gave out salaries and pensions in half for March (at the expense of "internal" reserves).

    But they promise that in April they will not be or they will be paid only partially.

    So, everything is just beginning.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 22 March 2014 11: 15
      +1
      Quote: aviamed90
      reserve officers from the disbanded Voroshilovgrad VVAUSH and 46 motorized rifle divisions

      These will be the most inert - they are very responsible for the use of force in their mass. Even when they press hard, they will most likely try to dump the thread somewhere quietly. Now, if the regional government (legitimate) dares to call them to the "training camp", gives out weapons and ideologically correctly sets the task - maybe they will.
  24. Karela71
    Karela71 22 March 2014 09: 39
    +1
    People do not be silent
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 22 March 2014 09: 47
      0
      The people are silent. (C) opera Boris Godunov
  25. polite people
    polite people 22 March 2014 09: 47
    0
    My all relatives are in Lugansk. Sorry there is no connection. I would find a leader there. Kicks. Accustomed to live at the expense of Russia. We ourselves are to blame. They fed them. Last year, 77 billion was exported by Ukrainians from Russia. 1 Fourth Budget of Ukraine. What are they thinking? Generally some kind of madhouse. or here is some kind of someone's huge bad idea in the future. Everything is not just like that. Good luck to you. angry
  26. Pavell
    Pavell 22 March 2014 09: 54
    +1
    It is not a fact that after a wave of popular anger the fascists will not come to power. Media, weapons, and advisers from the west are on their side. they learned to rinse the brains, to identify, intimidate and remove unwanted activists, too. It is not sad, but only direct terror from the side of the radicals will untie the GDP of the hands.
  27. nizrum
    nizrum 22 March 2014 09: 55
    +1
    In Ukraine, there are now 3 player players.
    1.Amerikosy in the person of Yatsenyuk and the National Guard
    2. The right sector (Yarosh and company)
    3.Russian southeast
    Putin and Yanukovych seem to be like for the southeast, but they can’t openly act in Ukraine. Nobody will support Yanyka, and washing against Putin has been going on for 20 years. Therefore, there will be partisans when troops are deployed even in the southeast.
    What to do? Xs ... It seems to me that the key to everything was Crimea, it was necessary to slowly move north and squeeze the junta from the southeast ... and now I don’t even know, it remains to hope for GDP with the team.
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 22 March 2014 10: 03
      +1
      nizrum

      There will be no partisans.

      But provocations and terrorist attacks are more than possible.
      1. nizrum
        nizrum 22 March 2014 10: 16
        +1
        Well, there will be gangs of formation in Chechnya, the essence will not change.
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 22 March 2014 14: 27
        +2
        Quote: aviamed90
        There will be no partisans.

        TVNZ:http://kp.ru/daily/26207.7/3094548
        Russia24:http://vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1401087
    2. mvv
      mvv 22 March 2014 10: 57
      +2
      a little bit wrong

      1 German project: Poroshenko-Klitschko, no one takes them seriously anymore.
      2 Pravoseki and Svobodovites represented by Parubiya are pure agents of the State Department and the oligarchosis, they have the support of hundreds of Maidan and moderate ones like Afghans
      3 Yarosh is a supporter of non-aligned Ukraine, "Banderstadt" support of ultras and radicals, part of the oligarchism
      4 Tymoshenko is a new German project, most likely a "fallback", the oligarch also supports, the moderates will also vote for her, she is extremely disliked by the radicals.

      Something like this
      1. nizrum
        nizrum 22 March 2014 11: 33
        +1
        1 and 4 can be ignored ... if only as gain 2 and 3 ...

        I think they will soon be biting each other soon ... and against this background, someone else will appear, I hope pro-Russian.
  28. konvalval
    konvalval 22 March 2014 10: 06
    +2
    I am 100% for the proposals made here in the Southeast. But let's be realistic, dear comrades. Do not demand the impossible. The ball is over, the candle went out. TILL! Do not minus, this is unfortunately a reality. I myself am sad. The GDP has already done, in fact, what we did not think, but only dreamed of.
  29. delfinN
    delfinN 22 March 2014 10: 21
    +11
    The rabbit anneals:
    1. Ulairy
      Ulairy 22 March 2014 16: 48
      +1
      Bravo! No, really, BRAVO !!! And the Iron Cross for what? For betrayal?
    2. Mike_v
      Mike_v 23 March 2014 00: 59
      0
      At the end of the video under the "Mossad" mows ....
  30. 1aspid1
    1aspid1 22 March 2014 10: 27
    +2
    The South-East itself must do something (except for the rally). You see how western dogs break down on us and this is subject to all international standards. They know that they are wrong and therefore will soon subside. But to call in tanks to the South-East - this is an excuse for aggression. The reason for which could only be justified if the genocide of the Russian population began.
  31. morpogr
    morpogr 22 March 2014 10: 43
    +2
    The same deputies made about the same message to Kiev and the Donetsk deputies can see that this is the beginning of a new multi-way game for a reason they appeared immediately after the signing of the political part of the association with the EU. Plus, the pre-election race begins, and news has already begun to appear that scapegoats will do the right-wingers. Murder of police officers, seizure of property, robbery of banks. Yes, and before the sponsors need to somehow clear.
  32. mvv
    mvv 22 March 2014 10: 47
    +1
    The process has begun. We need the Don and Kuban volunteer Cossack detachments, we need the Crimean self-defense forces with the support of our troops, aviation and the Black Sea Fleet. Moreover, almost all combat-ready equipment was driven to the border with the Russian Federation, taking it under control is a matter of several hours. The vast majority of conscripts and mobilized weapons will hand over, just ask. BUT! There is no one to call for this, there is no one to carry along and lead. There is no one on behalf of the legitimate president to organize the "warmed up" masses. And they can start pogroms, resulting in a massacre. Your mother ...
  33. kelevra
    kelevra 22 March 2014 11: 00
    +1
    Due to its passivity, the east of Ukraine can be left without the support of Russia. It is not enough to demand something and be indignant on paper, you need to block the entrances to the city and stand as in the Crimea until the end. Put the deputies and try to hold a referendum. Start Lugansk, help Donetsk and Kharkov. A chain reaction is needed.
  34. janissary
    janissary 22 March 2014 11: 15
    +2
    Dear deputies! V.I. Lenin has a fundamental work, "All for the fight against Denikin" it was used back in June 1941, while they also did not know what to grab onto in the first place. Russia is with you!
  35. ImPerts
    ImPerts 22 March 2014 11: 18
    +3
    I recalled recently:
    ... Recall the story, literally 9 years ago ...
    History does not teach anything (((

    13: 46 / 22.11.2005 - Donbass News
    On the anniversary of the Orange Revolution, well-known Ukrainian and Russian politicians told jokes and tales about the events of the fall-winter of 2004 ...
    ... Deputy Taras Chernovil, who headed the headquarters of the loser candidate Viktor Yanukovych, told a story about the Ukrainian national instrument:
    http://novosti.dn.ua/details/19752/
    “I have a joke about the Ukrainian national instrument that played best during this revolution. The tool is called a “rake.” What does a Ukrainian say when he steps on a rake for the first time? Oh, it hurts! What does he say the second time, stepping on a rake? Oh, it hurts again for some reason! What will he say when he walks a third time and will see a rake in front of him? Lord, it will hurt again! "...
  36. parus2nik
    parus2nik 22 March 2014 11: 20
    +2
    In my opinion, the statement is about nothing ... Moreover, the small-town statement, not a single southeast region, wants to become the political center of resistance, the whole Southeast .. in the 14th century, all southeastern Russia, without resistance fell under Lithuania and Poland .. Separate centers of resistance were suppressed ..
  37. shark
    shark 22 March 2014 11: 40
    +1
    I don’t believe in the desire of the southeast to fight the west. One half measures. They pat them on the head, they will calm down. I think that they have calmed down. In percentage terms, they are ready to percent 10. The rest hate Putin, they fear Russia and see their existence exclusively as part of Ukraine. All talk of federalization is a purely economic action. And why the hell should Russia get in there? I am sure that everything will calm down in a month and a half.
  38. Evgeny B.
    Evgeny B. 22 March 2014 11: 41
    +5
    In order for a serious movement to begin in the southeast, it is necessary to untie people’s hands, that is, protect their families and relatives, create an organization capable of protecting their members, etc. Without this, nothing will come of it.
    Statements like: grab, hit, llama, demand, Resist, etc. - are infantile and irresponsible.
  39. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 22 March 2014 11: 42
    +2
    The left hand does not know what the right hand is doing, and the bandit is in the gang’s power.
  40. family tree
    family tree 22 March 2014 11: 57
    +2
    And what? Alone ranting.
    Uncles! Work begins after the word I ORDER! what Then, the truth for this word, responder, not frail such, only, on another, well in any way. request
  41. gych
    gych 22 March 2014 12: 04
    +2
    Quote: Ross
    This is the first appeal of a legitimate authority in the Southeast, after the Crimea! Before that there were simple activists. Why don’t the Donetsk miners recall the old effective strike tool? And support the Lugansk Council? Eh, we need competent strategists ...

    Donetsk miners are already being kicked out for free at the moment! The prosecutor’s office and the Chekists will follow the cops because they refuse to act harshly against the protesters (for this purpose, SMs were transferred from Dnepropetrovsk and Kirovograd if I’m not mistaken, but they aren’t too excited about the orders given)
  42. Russ69
    Russ69 22 March 2014 12: 19
    +2
    In Donetsk, the administration also issued a similar statement ...
    1. Mike_v
      Mike_v 23 March 2014 01: 00
      0
      http://www.vz.ru/world/2014/3/21/678434.html
  43. sv68
    sv68 22 March 2014 12: 30
    +1
    regarding the forgiveness in Kiev’s pseudorada, it’s a letter to nowhere. Otherwise, you’re not small children, you want to live well, organize yourself, don’t let your leaders defend them by force, otherwise you’ll just get stuck. Try to fight back at least once, it will certainly not be easy, but with you will be reckoned with. and if you disperse local maydanschikov. then even respect
  44. sv68
    sv68 22 March 2014 12: 30
    0
    regarding the forgiveness in Kiev’s pseudorada, it’s a letter to nowhere. Otherwise, you’re not small children, you want to live well, organize yourself, don’t let your leaders defend them by force, otherwise you’ll just get stuck. Try to fight back at least once, it will certainly not be easy, but with you will be reckoned with. and if you disperse local maydanschikov. then even respect
  45. sv68
    sv68 22 March 2014 12: 31
    +1
    regarding the forgiveness in Kiev’s pseudorada, it’s a letter to nowhere. Otherwise, you’re not small children, you want to live well, organize yourself, don’t let your leaders defend them by force, otherwise you’ll just get stuck. Try to fight back at least once, it will certainly not be easy, but with you will be reckoned with. and if you disperse local maydanschikov. then even respect
  46. sv68
    sv68 22 March 2014 12: 32
    +1
    regarding the forgiveness in Kiev’s pseudorada, it’s a letter to nowhere. Otherwise, you’re not small children, you want to live well, organize yourself, don’t let your leaders defend them by force, otherwise you’ll just get stuck. Try to fight back at least once, it will certainly not be easy, but with you will be reckoned with. and if you disperse local maydanschikov. then even respect
  47. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 March 2014 13: 30
    +1
    So what? Well said, expressed their point of view. And tomorrow they will hammer this point of view into their throats with their teeth. All this tra-la-la worked before the Nazis seized weapons. Now this is nothing more than blinking from the gateway.
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  49. Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 22 March 2014 13: 43
    +3
    Quote: Igarr
    INDUSTRIAL East. People work. Families provide. Go to Maydayn, they have no time to drive.
    And before you go out - you need to create - BASE for exit.
    Well reckless young growth - no family, no children, no long-term obligations. Kissed, and no one special problems.
    And - a peasant with two children, a wife, relatives, household, loans .....

    I completely agree. Based on the results of visits to ukrosaytov and comment monitoring, I came to a similar obvious conclusion. The contingent "galloping" in the Internet is approximately the following: infantile students, militant plankton, and of course, frostbite (although, for the most part, these are now "in business"). Signs: lack of argumentation, absolute rejection of the opponent's arguments (four BANs in half an hour), well, aggression, that goes without saying, plus clumsy terminology ("missile carrier" is a masterpiece), because. the majority did not even serve, and, of course, complete ignorance of history, although what am I about, what kind of story is there where Bandera is a hero! And the peasant ... And he has no time for INETA, - he gives out a coal to the mountain in the mines of Donbass, he stands at the machine at the KhTZ, he "throws" containers in the Odessa port - you have to work, you have to survive. And endures, endures, endures ...
    1. washi
      washi 22 March 2014 14: 17
      +2
      Quote: Paranoid50
      he gives coal to the mountain in the mines of Donbass, he stands at the machine at the KhTZ, he "throws" containers in the Odessa port - you have to work, you have to survive. And endures, endures, endures ...

      Let them endure further.
      Wait, that they really begin to hang
  50. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 22 March 2014 13: 56
    +2
    Quote: We demand to initiate legislative consolidation of the status of the Russian language as a second state language as soon as possible, as well as to create a legal framework for decentralization of power, expansion of regional powers.
    Everything is correct, only in this case you can communicate understanding each other.