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Sands: Ukrainian military in the Crimea must choose, enter the army of the Russian Federation or leave the peninsula

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Sands: Ukrainian military in the Crimea must choose, enter the army of the Russian Federation or leave the peninsula

The Ukrainian military in the Crimea will have to choose whether to enter the Russian army in the future or leave the peninsula. This was announced on Tuesday by Russian Presidential spokesman Vladimir Putin Dmitry Peskov, speaking in the transfer of the British broadcasting corporation BBC HARDtalk.


Answering the leading question about the future fate of the Ukrainian military in the Crimea, Peskov said in English: "Obviously, President Putin mentioned in his address that more than 20 thousand members of the Ukrainian army were and continue to be based in Crimea. Some of them switched to and they will now be part of the Russian forces. And some of them are still locked in their units, some are blocked there by representatives of the Crimea’s self-defense units, some remain inside, waiting for any orders. Now they just couldn’t t understand where the birthplace of that (comes) "for the process.

"They will have to make a decision," the spokesman for the head of the Russian state continued to answer. "Some of them will join the forces of the Crimea, then the Russian army. Those who do not wish to do this will definitely be free to leave the peninsula."

Peskov also noted that the pro-Russian forces in Crimea are currently facing provocations from those who want conflict.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 19 March 2014 13: 07
    +12
    Sands: Ukrainian military in the Crimea must choose, enter the army of the Russian Federation or leave the peninsula
    - the words are spoken. Now everyone is free to choose for himself ...
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 19 March 2014 13: 14
      +7
      Quote: svp67
      words spoken. Now everyone is free to choose for himself ..

      ... there is a third way - to the future army of the SEI, to the aid of Donbass, Harkiv ... Odessa
    2. major071
      major071 19 March 2014 13: 20
      +17
      hi Sergei
      One thing surprises me, well, they are sitting there in the blocked parts and waiting. What? The fact that Crimea will return to Ukrainian? Well, this is unlikely. Do they want to shoot at the civilian population on the orders of the illegitimate "government" from Kiev? Well, do not do.R. but they are. Can not understand anything. what
      1. fktrcfylhn61
        fktrcfylhn61 19 March 2014 13: 27
        +10
        Yes, in my opinion, all normal people have already decided, they remained tricky!
        1. vadimN
          vadimN 19 March 2014 14: 44
          +6
          Exactly ... That same Khokhlyat obstinacy - to sit to the last and wait for something, living with dreams, and not with reality. There should already be no inclusion in the Russian army! Those who have reached today are the most unreliable fighters. In the event of any conflict it is no longer clear which side they will take. If they don’t shoot in the back of the Russians, then our rear will be exposed for sure!
          Only complete and unconditional demobilization! Whoever wants to live and work in Crimea, the rest - into a brighter European future with zapadentsy.
          1. Alekseev
            Alekseev 19 March 2014 14: 55
            +2
            Quote: vadimN
            Those who have reached today are the most unreliable fighters.

            Quote: vadimN
            Only complete and unconditional demobilization! Whoever wants to live and work in Crimea, the rest - into a brighter European future with zapadentsy.

            So sure, sir!
            You just need to have a heart-to-heart talk, turn off the water, sewer, food delivery, etc. To remind the commanders that they bear personal responsibility, and if the resistance continues, they will not go kissing their beloved banderlog in the ass, but will quickly catch up with the "heavenly hundred", and they have families ... now Crimea is ours, we can also tanks) and start breaking gates and fences from different sides. And let some one try to shoot!
      2. pensioner
        pensioner 19 March 2014 13: 31
        +4
        Hi Vova! hi
        Quote: major071
        It's unclear.
        Yes, it’s not clear ... The commanders simply waited out the time until everything settled down and it became extremely clear: what's what. Now they are waiting for an order from Kiev: "Retreat!" ... And he will definitely follow soon. Surely, along with an order to damage property and weapons ... Well, the heroes will come to Kiev in the Moscow region. They will receive medals and a new stage in their careers will begin, and the soldiers will scatter: who knows where ... Well, at least they were smart enough not to shoot at the polite ... signal ...
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 19 March 2014 13: 36
          0
          Quote: retired
          Well, the heroes will come to Kiev in the Moscow Region. They will receive medals and they will have a new stage in their careers.

          ... and maybe another turn - the court for indecision and inaction.
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 19 March 2014 13: 46
            +1
            Quote: Rus2012
            ... and maybe another turn - the court for indecision and inaction.

            Well, then it will be a verdict for the junta itself. Like: "How so ??" Why weren't they able to ensure the execution of orders? " what ...
            1. a52333
              a52333 19 March 2014 14: 13
              +1
              I am afraid that the junta mentally wrote them already, and only hopes that the NNI will raise an inner storm. I mean, the worse, the better. Yesterday's confirmation shots.
          2. mojohed2012
            mojohed2012 19 March 2014 14: 07
            0
            The court of Maidan and Sasha Bilogo is even worse.
        2. major071
          major071 19 March 2014 13: 39
          +7
          Hi Yura! hi
          .And in Kiev they’ll go on for another week (you need to show your coolness ...) and give the go-ahead ...

          Yes, they have no weeks. The people will simply carry them along with the fence right to the border. If already in Sevastopol the headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy was taken out.
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 19 March 2014 13: 54
            0
            Quote: major071
            Yes, they have no weeks. The people will simply carry them along with the fence right to the border.

            C'mon ... The junta is for a long time. I would not want to wish the opposite, but it is. Maybe these faces and replace with others, the essence remains.
        3. mojohed2012
          mojohed2012 19 March 2014 14: 06
          +4
          Another question is what is meant by "damage to property and weapons."
          I think that everything is already ushatannoe, except for Kalash and machine guns.
          All heavy equipment has already been plundered.
          And, in the light of the last re-equipment of the Russian army, it is not clear how we would dispose of obsolete weapons? We have under modernization so the T-72 is more than enough.
          What we will not find for the Crimea from the storage of thousands of fifty Kalash 74M? We have enough for two world wars.
          In short, Crimea is already Russia. I’m waiting for it to be announced that units from the Russian Federation went to the Crimea en masse: Border Guards, BB, units of the RF Ministry of Defense.
          Another question: We have problems calling, therefore, Crimea needs to be covered with military units, of which there are a lot of understaffed people in the Russian Federation. Apparently they will recruit from the Crimeans. The main thing is that they be quickly trained and involved with our military in exercises, otherwise in Ukraine exercises were not carried out since the collapse of the USSR.
      3. SHOCK.
        SHOCK. 19 March 2014 13: 56
        +2
        Quote: major071
        hi Sergei
        One thing surprises me, well, they are sitting there in the blocked parts and waiting. What? The fact that Crimea will return to Ukrainian? Well, this is unlikely. Do they want to shoot at the civilian population on the orders of the illegitimate "government" from Kiev? Well, do not do.R. but they are. Can not understand anything. what

        I think that many are afraid for families and relatives. The recruits from the Crimea have an obvious choice, the Zapadentsev have the same choice, but the question is not intended for the rest, because when switching to our side, the reaction from the militants will be necessary.
      4. Kuvabatake
        Kuvabatake 19 March 2014 14: 26
        0
        Wait, they just haven’t run out of vodka yet ... lol
      5. svp67
        svp67 19 March 2014 22: 28
        0
        Quote: major071
        One thing surprises me, well, they are sitting there in the blocked parts and waiting. What? The fact that Crimea will return to Ukrainian? Well, this is unlikely. Do they want to shoot at the civilian population on the orders of the illegitimate "government" from Kiev? Well, do not do.R. but they are. Can not understand anything

        hi
        Guys, it's simple ... in any case, such a seat is the best way out of the situation in which the army is now. Moreover, they are not being ousted, they are not pressured ... Those who are in power will remain in power, they will still be forced to withdraw their troops, because like it or not, they will have to negotiate with Russia - the main buyer of Ukrainian products, "heroic prisoners" like carried out orders, overthrow the maydanuts, others will come - these "inmates" are the same on horseback - they did not fight against the people, their hands are clean ... So they can sit for a long time ...
    3. vlad0
      vlad0 19 March 2014 13: 21
      +5
      The Ukrainian military is waiting for the promised bonus from Yitsenyuk (like military ones, for fidelity to duty) in the amount of about 10 thousand dollars. But then they will start to think about Russian military salaries.
      Nobody has yet won Ukrainian mercantile spirit.
    4. Alex89
      Alex89 19 March 2014 13: 31
      +2
      Adequate Ukrainian military is now very difficult. On the one hand, the oath, on the other, common sense.
      1. kare
        kare 19 March 2014 14: 39
        +2
        Once again, we recall the oath.
        If in Ukraine, with the help of a government coup, majahideen would come to power?
        Well, of course, the Ukrainian military would again kick the oath, please tell me what an impossible principle.
        Or maybe just stupid?
        Well, the better or worse the Wahobis National Socialists (some know them by the Nazis)
        I don’t see the difference.
        "Fascism" not one of the military in Ukraine has not sworn allegiance.
        So the "adequacy of the Ukrainian military", I question this issue hi
        1. soaring
          soaring 19 March 2014 19: 00
          0
          They pulled to the last, so they were afraid ... The illness and the real warrior are not compatible concepts! Or they support the junta and we don’t need such officers and soldiers! No one wants to get a knife in the back, I hope!
    5. katastrofa
      katastrofa 19 March 2014 13: 45
      +8
      what is Maidan in Ukraine? answer: ........... passengers took and raised an uprising on the plane,
      the cowardly pilot (Yanukovych) took and parachuted,
      now everyone is waiting with curiosity when the fuel runs out
    6. Siberian19
      Siberian19 19 March 2014 14: 00
      +1
      What is the position of the Ukrainian military in Crimea? who owns the info, share it!
    7. katastrofa
      katastrofa 19 March 2014 14: 09
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      - the words are spoken. Now everyone is free to choose for himself ...

      The Ukrainian 36th brigade in Perevalnoy ceases resistance and surrenders weapons.
      This was announced on March 19 by Dmitry Tymchuk, the head of the Center for Military-Political Studies, on his Facebook page.
      “At present, the brigade personnel is surrendering weapons. Further, the Ukrainian military will be determined - either take the oath of allegiance to the invaders, or resign from the army, or evacuate to the mainland, ”he wrote referring to the Information Resistance group.
    8. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 19 March 2014 14: 31
      +5
      Quote: svp67
      Sands: Ukrainian military in the Crimea must choose, enter the army of the Russian Federation or leave the peninsula
      - the words are spoken. Now everyone is free to choose for himself ...


      The choice is illusory. They have two options - either to leave the Crimea, or to leave the Ukrainian army. The option of joining the Russian army is flawed - people, voluntarily or involuntarily, violate the oath of allegiance to the state. I am personally against such military men in our army.
    9. Siberian19
      Siberian19 19 March 2014 15: 00
      +1
      The military personnel of the Ukrainian part in Perevalnoye began to surrender weapons. This was reported by the head of the Center for Military - Political Studies Dmitry Timchuk, citing data from the Information Resistance group.

      Sources of Ukrainian truth partially confirm this information. According to Timchuk’s latest reports, officers from the 36th Brigade say only a fraction of the servicemen surrendered their weapons. ”

      Others say they are waiting for Kiev’s decision before March 21. By this date, the military wants to hear the clear position of the Ukrainian military-political leadership regarding the prospects for the Ukrainian troops to be in Crimea, ”he wrote.

      “Meanwhile, Russian representatives announced the start of work tomorrow in Perevalnoy of representatives of the Federal Migration Service of the Russian Federation. According to them, Russian passports will be issued by the Ukrainian military ready to continue to serve Russia, on an emergency basis, ”Tymchuk claims.

      The interlocutor of “Ukrainian Truth” said that the unit commander gave the order to hand over the weapon. Moreover, according to him, a similar decision was made by the majority of the Ukrainian military in Crimea. There are no official comments from the Ministry of Defense in the region yet.
    10. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 19 March 2014 17: 12
      0
      It is firmly said that a real officer swears an oath once, so it will be difficult for decent people to leave the Crimea where he may have lived his whole life or to leave the service.
    11. Siberian German
      Siberian German 20 March 2014 04: 29
      0
      and now just imagine for a minute - a person took an oath of allegiance to Ukraine and he believes in this oath, then how he should be
  2. Tumbleweed
    Tumbleweed 19 March 2014 13: 08
    +1
    Infa slipped that due to politics in the Crimea sent mainly officers and conscripts from Western Ukraine. I do not know the truth or not, but I think the decision to determine my position is correct. Maybe it’s somehow softer with the Oath and the officers ... but it’s not up to me to decide
  3. Altona
    Altona 19 March 2014 13: 09
    +2
    In general, the Ukrainian military needs to decide who they are with the people or the junta in Kiev, and from this point to make a decision ...
  4. Ahmed Osmanov
    Ahmed Osmanov 19 March 2014 13: 09
    +3
    Definitely-joining the Russian army, will not regret it!
  5. Rus2012
    Rus2012 19 March 2014 13: 10
    +2
    Infa slipped that due to politics, mainly officers and conscripts from Western Ukraine were sent to the Crimea.

    Not quite right ...
    In yesterday's provocation, a sniper shot including a Ukrainian from the Dnieper ...
    1. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 19 March 2014 13: 29
      +1
      In yesterday's provocation, a sniper shot including a Ukrainian from the Dnieper ...

      In Simferopol, they caught a sniper who shot two people on the evening of March 18. Information about the detention was confirmed by Vesti FM in the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Crimea. They said that the detainee was a 17-year-old resident of the Lviv region. According to preliminary information, the shooter is a member of the "Right Sector". No official confirmation has yet appeared on the agency's website.
  6. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 19 March 2014 13: 11
    +1
    Ukrovoyak not the first time twice to swear. Just as if on occasion again did not betray.
  7. Ivan Russky
    Ivan Russky 19 March 2014 13: 11
    +4
    That's right, what the brains e..t. It makes no sense to keep the defense closed in the military unit. Either with us or goodbye.
  8. asadov
    asadov 19 March 2014 13: 12
    0
    everything is correct. Let them choose. Let them leave all military property in the places of their current deployment with the transfer of the Russian army
    1. officer29
      officer29 19 March 2014 13: 31
      +1
      Quote: asadov
      let all military equipment be left in the places of the current deployment

      Why do we need this property ?! When, in practice, all weapons are outdated and require current, at best, repair, or even major! Return everything to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and for our units to deliver the latest weapons and equipment! After all, now Crimea is an outpost on the southwestern borders! good soldier
  9. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 19 March 2014 13: 12
    0
    We need to fix their brains, in the barracks, give them the opportunity to view information from our and not only our media over the past couple of months. In addition, you need to put a clear ultimatum. Like, a week for thought to you (it doesn’t matter) and if after that you don’t disperse yourself, turn off the light, water and transfer you to crackers. It’s hard to block all the parts so that Bo don’t let them out with weapons.
    1. officer29
      officer29 19 March 2014 13: 39
      +2
      Do not put much pressure on the Ukrainian military! The bulk of the military service in Crimea is local, officers and contract soldiers, part of conscripts! Ukraine betrayed them, how unfortunate it sounds. They stood no longer for Ukraine, but for personal honor! Many of the officers of the Ukrainian units deserve deep respect!
      1. Vasil9
        Vasil9 19 March 2014 17: 46
        0
        I completely agree with this, and I don’t immediately figure out what to do. And in the thick of events (and the extraordinary one must honestly say) not that you get confused, it is just very difficult to decide "correctly" And honor, duty, oath acquire an ambiguous meaning. God forbid to be in a similar situation
  10. konvalval
    konvalval 19 March 2014 13: 13
    0
    The sooner they are determined, the better. In general, it’s time for Crimea to be secured by personnel units, and not self-defense.
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  12. JonnyT
    JonnyT 19 March 2014 13: 27
    0
    Those who still think you can understand ..... maybe they are from the west .... all the relatives are there, imagine what will happen to them if they go to the sides of the Russian Federation .... and nobody canceled the mental torment .... primarily they are Ukrainian military
  13. KOSMOS
    KOSMOS 19 March 2014 13: 28
    +1
    We have to make a choice! Among the military there are Russians, many Ukrainians living in Crimea. Now, as a traitor, as well as a traitor to the motherland, the oath has not been canceled, but with the fascists in the same row it is disgusting. May God grant everyone the right choice! Let us guys! Russia will not offend!
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 19 March 2014 13: 34
      0
      Quote: KOSMOS
      and no one canceled the oath,

      They swore an oath of legitimate authority, i.e. Yanukovych for them Sovereign so far ...
  14. darksoul
    darksoul 19 March 2014 13: 34
    +1
    It is difficult for the officers and soldiers of Ukraine ..... but betrayal does not smell here, the traitors are those who have a swastika ... the right sector
  15. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 19 March 2014 13: 35
    0
    No need to rush! Blood must not spill! Conduct conversations with them, give people a week to think that they could smell something and finally make the right decision to either switch to the Russian Federation or go home to the world with no options. Otherwise, there are special units in our law enforcement agencies. Choose a part for weaker and for less: special operation, arrest, investigation, court, term, prison. Show that, unlike present-day Ukraine, the law in Russia is there and it will be executed. And the armed forces of another country, without a special invitation, have no place here
  16. ALEKS419
    ALEKS419 19 March 2014 13: 41
    0
    Quote: major071
    hi Sergei
    One thing surprises me, well, they are sitting there in the blocked parts and waiting. What? The fact that Crimea will return to Ukrainian? Well, this is unlikely. Do they want to shoot at the civilian population on the orders of the illegitimate "government" from Kiev? Well, do not do.R. but they are. Can not understand anything. what
    Until Yatsenyuk pays the salary, they will sit)))) Just kidding)) But seriously, surely they are waiting for some sort of watered negotiations between the authorities.


    It is hard to realize fell asleep in one country, woke up in another.
  17. Black
    Black 19 March 2014 14: 03
    0
    I would like the process to proceed peacefully. But the "inhabited" VOs are hotbeds of danger, if they themselves do not play pranks, they can become an object of provocations ... This issue must be "resolved" decisively and quickly. For the health of the same Ukrainian employees.
  18. andrejwz
    andrejwz 19 March 2014 14: 06
    +1
    First Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Vitaliy Yarema and Defense Minister Igor Tenyukh flew to Crimea, cabinet minister Ostap Semerak said Wednesday.

    Suicides?
  19. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 19 March 2014 14: 07
    0
    Quote: katastrofa
    what is Maidan in Ukraine? answer: ........... passengers took and raised an uprising on the plane,
    the cowardly pilot (Yanukovych) took and parachuted,
    now everyone is waiting with curiosity when the fuel runs out

    Or, as an option, someone controls the plane from the ground ... only here where and when will it land
  20. kelevra
    kelevra 19 March 2014 14: 17
    0
    Quite reasonable!
  21. Altona
    Altona 19 March 2014 14: 53
    +5
    Well, like so, probably ...
  22. phakic
    phakic 19 March 2014 14: 54
    +2
    Inspired by the alignment of the conflict forces with STALKER
  23. kare
    kare 19 March 2014 15: 23
    +2
    Quote: Geisenberg
    Quote: svp67
    Sands: Ukrainian military in the Crimea must choose, enter the army of the Russian Federation or leave the peninsula
    - the words are spoken. Now everyone is free to choose for himself ...


    The choice is illusory. They have two options - either to leave the Crimea, or to leave the Ukrainian army. The option of joining the Russian army is flawed - people, voluntarily or involuntarily, violate the oath of allegiance to the state. I am personally against such military men in our army.

    There is a third option. Become the fifth column. I think the State Department has already paid for the possibility of creating such precedents. Most of them are decent people, but the risk of taking them all to the service of the Russian Federation is not justified recourse
  24. Odessa-mama
    Odessa-mama 19 March 2014 16: 23
    0
    Quote: retired
    Quote: Rus2012
    ... and maybe another turn - the court for indecision and inaction.

    Well, then it will be a verdict for the junta itself. Like: "How so ??" Why weren't they able to ensure the execution of orders ?? ". And then they will serve under sauce: they say they did not allow bloodshed, showed loyalty to the oath, etc. Those. easier to make heroes from them than rogue ones. Well somehow I think what ...

    BERKUT forgot? They can do the same with them (
  25. Odessa-mama
    Odessa-mama 19 March 2014 18: 44
    +7
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/922/cckg5.jpg
  26. uzer 13
    uzer 13 19 March 2014 21: 18
    0
    Since Crimea is already part of Russia, the next inevitable event will be the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the territory of the peninsula. It is necessary to create movement schedules, prepare transport, and discuss these problems directly in the garrisons. Understanding this will help to avoid conflicts. You should also create commissions and take into account and storage of weapons and military equipment. There is a lot of organizational work here. If the Ukrainian units still have not made a choice, it means they remain part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and their presence on the territory of Crimea has no reason.