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Instead of lustration of power - war with dissent

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Instead of lustration of power - war with dissentThe Ukrainian Armed Forces turned out to be, despite the 23 of the year of planned destruction by the authorities, still combat-ready. True, not at full strength, just 6000 people, but even this is surprising. We built a police state, and even in 2000-s there were more law enforcement officers than soldiers, 2 times. The army was systematically killed, and who does not want to feed his own, he will feed the enemy's army, as Napoleon said.


When the country remembered its armed forces, it turned out that they were not enough to ensure sovereignty, and the record of volunteers in the military registration and enlistment offices was more likely an advertising measure than an effective one. Even the Russian army will complete its modernization no earlier than by 2020. And this is with those colossal funds that allocate it. Modern wars are, due to the high cost of technical equipment, the lot of few countries, and now nobody will be fighting the old fashioned way, the time for melee and frontal attacks has passed. Money, modern technology and trained personnel decide everything.

Therefore, our army will not be able to win the Crimea. And not only ours, no country will fight with Putin because of Ukraine. It is also unrealistic to put pressure on the promised international sanctions on our northern neighbor. Russia is so tightly integrated into the global financial system that actions against it will ricochet all other countries. Therefore, Crimea will turn from a peninsula into an island of Crimea, as V. Aksyonov wrote in his novel.
In addition, we should not forget that Putin has a security certificate from Yanukovych, which allows him to use the army on the territory of Ukraine at his discretion, and this opportunity was approved by the Federation Council. And Putin himself in an interview last week openly, without blunt and diplomatic hints, said that such a scenario is quite possible.

The escaped guarantor has already twice contacted the outside world from Rostov-on-Don. Also, by the way, symbolic - remember the old “there is no issue with the Don”? From there, he continues to insist on his legitimacy and shows the city and the world that he is alive. Remember how Balaganov and Panikovsky, pushing each other in the chest, said: “What are you? And who are you? ”In“ The Golden Calf ”? We have the same thing happening now.

Yanukovych says that BP is illegitimate, and BP says that the Crimea’s Armed Forces are illegitimate, which in turn says that it’s illegitimate in Kiev ... “Who are you? ..”. And so on ad infinitum, some sort of daily leapfrog of legitimacy-illegitimacy. And what should a person who is not experienced in these subtleties do? Who rules lawfully, and who is the usurper? The only thing that no one doubts is that Yanukovych is our distant past. And his promises to return cause a smile and surprise. Viktor Fedorovich lost the trust of all those who trusted him, and became indifferent to those who hated him, this is a political death. He blamed the West for blindness, pointing him at the Bandera flags, and he surprised me ad infinitum. And before he did not notice them in Ukraine? Or for a sudden insight it was necessary to wash the Don water?

The new government, unlike Yanukovych, it turns out, knows that there is current legislation. Moreover, she began to use it skillfully and resolutely. When administrative buildings were seized one after another in Kiev, this was a matter of righteousness. And now, for the same actions, only in the South-East, they sew cases, because it turned out that this is still a criminal offense. Our domestic Themis makes fantastic pirouettes in the shortest possible time. Brought to a strict response P. Gubarev from Donetsk, A. Klinchaev from Lugansk, M. Dobkin from Kharkov (next in line is G. Kernes). Who is next? The repressive machine launched now will iron the protest regions for a long time.

Power to capture a little - it still needs to be able to hold. Therefore, instead of the promised lustration at all levels of government, new people, realizing that they are sitting on an active volcano, declared war on separatism and external aggression. Simple, ideological participants of the protest Maidan can now see for themselves that there will be no radical renewal of power, no reboot. Especially since the oligarchs have already become governors. And the fight against separatism or federalization is very convenient. Under this leitmotif, any manifestation of dissent can be rooted out. And now there is a lot of it in Ukraine, as never before.
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  1. Tumbleweed
    Tumbleweed 17 March 2014 11: 30
    +19
    And they want the bandits to surrender their weapons ... wassat They destroyed the army, drove the police, gave weapons to the cattle ... Walk the Field fellow
    When I read:
    Armed people who introduced themselves as fighters of self-defense of the Maidan, on Sunday captured a batch of 50 KamAZ trucks near Chernihiv intended for transportation to Kazakhstan, the company’s press service said.

    A batch of 50 trucks that were in the warehouse of the KamAZ trading company in Chernigov was supposed to go to Astana. The decision was made on March 13 due to the fact that sales in Ukraine in the last two months "were practically zero," the company’s website said in a statement.

    I don’t even laugh wassat
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 17 March 2014 11: 34
      +10
      Yanukovych even fled to Rostov on the Don, and those who run to where they start to naughty from the same weapons in them, they don’t think about it along the way fool or while there are amerekosovskie dry soldering you can not think!
      1. werewolf
        werewolf 17 March 2014 12: 01
        +6
        I was brought up in the USSR and more than once heard the saying "h.h.h.o.l dies like a fly without bacon" Then I look at this red-haired "cookie" fussing with them on the Maidan ... well, I think: "Now he will get a brazen face! " NO !!! ... EATS a "cookie" !!! Drooling is just flowing ... Sala is not May .... Expired amerskiye rations I think they will eat ... and very, very quickly! The rations are only 25 and the army has 000 of dill. Still, it’s not like they were torn.
    2. sincman
      sincman 17 March 2014 11: 37
      +45
      Very symbolic and in the subject:

      We will fight in the Southeast to the last. The main thing is that we felt the brotherly shoulder of support and the determination to go all the way. And this is the MOST strong argument. This gives us strength, and the junta - weakness and insecurity in their capabilities. They can still throw strength to suppress dissent, but this will be the last thing they can do under power.

      ps And for the Crimeans incredibly happy! Crimea is now an island of security and tranquility in our distraught land.
      1. saxa2103
        saxa2103 17 March 2014 13: 13
        +5
        CLASS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        !!!!!!
      2. Anatoly. RUS
        Anatoly. RUS 17 March 2014 13: 58
        +5
        Breaks a tear !!! good good good
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      4. bubalik
        bubalik 17 March 2014 16: 01
        +1
        sincman (1) UA  Today, 11: 37 ↑

        Supper !!! good good
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    3. svetlomor
      svetlomor 17 March 2014 11: 38
      +12
      They still want the Crimea returned to them, they scare them with a super army and collect 5 hryvnias for a liberation trip.
    4. bubalik
      bubalik 17 March 2014 12: 07
      +6
      roll the field (1) RU  Today, 11: 30I don’t even laugh

      ordinary people feel sorry for what life is like under the Makhnovschina ,,,,
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    6. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 17 March 2014 12: 39
      +3
      I can’t believe that this is happening in my native Chernigov.
  2. buzuke
    buzuke 17 March 2014 11: 34
    +17
    the armed forces of Ukraine turned out, despite 23 years of systematic destruction by the authorities, still battle-worthy. True, not in full force, only 6000 people, but even this is amazing.

    Yatsenyuk was very pleased, he was going to throw the last loot into the army, and even 1 billion dollars from the social network. pick up on it. it still won’t help the army, and his people would quickly raise them to the pitchfork. you have to be such a woodpecker ...
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    2. Vladimir73
      Vladimir73 17 March 2014 17: 32
      +1
      it is necessary to somehow justify that there will be no pensions
  3. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 17 March 2014 11: 34
    +4
    The current government in Kiev will now point at anyone and yell at him, just to lead a little more and sign with the "overseas partners" what they need. And here is such an opportunity, by the way and bloated!
  4. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 17 March 2014 11: 35
    +1
    ... and so you can see. that the "new Kiev authorities" are crazy about their own coolness and are ready to hide all the other "cool" ones for long-term storage in remote places
  5. moremansf
    moremansf 17 March 2014 11: 35
    +3
    Anarchy in the country, there is no power, there will be no sense, despite all the efforts of the West and the USA ... they put the wrong people ...
    1. Egor-dis
      Egor-dis 17 March 2014 11: 55
      +2
      No, they just put them on those, and they achieved their goal - they crushed the country and created the next hotbed of permanent chaos. The only hope is that they will not be able to maintain it (chaos) for a long time. Means may not be enough, even in America. And without infusions from outside, Novokiev’s power will collapse.
  6. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 17 March 2014 11: 40
    +18
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine may soon begin to fight among themselves. Some will be for the Reds, others for the Whites, still others for the Orange .... mmmmm, there will probably be no one for the blue. Others will be for anarchy, and there are still options. And in all this chaos, will anyone be for Ukraine? sure laughing
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 17 March 2014 11: 45
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      for blue there will probably be no one.

      There is "tovarisch" there, well, as they say in the field, not a warrior!
    2. Oleg Sobol
      Oleg Sobol 17 March 2014 12: 23
      +3
      I think that it will not be there not red, not white, not orange ... They follow the same path as the first parts of Ram formed, and finish the SS. And the sun will be cannon fodder, it is already now.
    3. explorer
      explorer 17 March 2014 12: 27
      0
      What about refugees? recourse
      maybe it is better now to "calm down" helluva lot of active Russophobes and return Ukraine to its swamp, until the next land survey. hi
      Although it is possible to consider the option: "columns of Russian tanks go to Kiev." soldier
    4. Val_y
      Val_y 18 March 2014 03: 01
      0
      And where are simple people in this chaos and commotion ???
  7. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 17 March 2014 11: 41
    +8
    If there is an attack on Perekop and the Isthmus in the north of Crimea, of course, the golden eagle with the Cossacks will not hold back the armored vehicles.
    But the referendum has already passed, and Crimea is already Russia in fact.
    On the border with Ukraine, according to many, someone has not said anything about this, there are already large forces of the Russian Army.
    Coherence exercises are ongoing and our military already has some kind of readiness.
    You just need a reason. And God forbid Banderlog will go on tanks to iron Perekop - they will get a tank fist in the rear and Kiev will fall in a matter of hours. Soviet-made S-300s will not even have time to utter a word. And the world - the United States and its pocket "world community" will once again be frightened, however, they are already terribly terrible.
  8. Gorinich
    Gorinich 17 March 2014 11: 42
    0
    The basis of the question: how much can the current government hold out? Different solutions flow from this question.
  9. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 17 March 2014 11: 42
    +3
    And it’s not enough to give money to the army, as Serdyukovshchina showed, nothing good can come of it, you can flood the Ukrainian army with money, but will it be useless? No bunny, your deeds are bad, bite carrots better, you have nothing left to do.
  10. Sevastopol
    Sevastopol 17 March 2014 11: 43
    +20
    GDP is right - Yanukovych is a political corpse, but it can still come in handy. Maybe you didn’t notice, from Donetsk and Kharkov there were, so far, timid, subtle appeals to Yanukovych - say you are the legitimate president, restore order by any means.
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 17 March 2014 11: 52
      +2
      I'm waiting for the elections in Ukraine, then another show will be laughing
      1. werewolf
        werewolf 17 March 2014 12: 23
        +7
        The campaign of candidates is dumb ... I saw three entikh on TV: FIRST, my eyes on the rollout like a perch could say three words ..... "THE DEAD STATE IS PUT" ... He then the poor fellow thought that there were even packs ... and up to the ceiling ... And there were the same people like him ... only the fry are polished. SECOND - holding on to his head ... "There is nothing to pay wages, there is nothing to pay for pensions, there is nothing to pay for scholarships." He is silent about debts !!! He just fooled himself a normal position ... and the salaries are dumb ... THIRD with clerical bills "We should be given 35 billion" ... Who should? Why does he need so much ??? There are 35 people to see them and they are asking for just a year. In a year others will come and ask for 40.
        1. ZU-23
          ZU-23 17 March 2014 12: 25
          0
          Yes, any pro-Russian candidate is needed, and in Ukraine everything will begin to fall into place.
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  11. parusnik
    parusnik 17 March 2014 11: 44
    +2
    Ukrainians are seeing clearly ..? Judging by the article
  12. Stiletto
    Stiletto 17 March 2014 11: 44
    +4
    The one who has more rights is right (read, who is stronger - he ate). Today it is a basic principle of international law, and legitimacy / illegitimacy depends on it. With regard to Russia's actions in relation to the West, this can only mean one thing: To live with wolves - howl like a wolf. And if they understand only the language of power, in that language we need to talk to them.
  13. REDBLUE
    REDBLUE 17 March 2014 11: 46
    +7
    The collapse of Ukraine was systematic steps. The army is almost disarmed. I transfer weapons to militants from the right sector. And according to euronorms it is called democracy. Here is the p.r.i.d.u.r.k.i. Crimea pumped. Soon the Southeast will be ours. And there, Odessa will go away from the Nazis. If this happens, then the Nazis will not have access to the sea. And Getman Sagaidachy and the rest of the ships of the Black Sea Fleet of the Ukrainian Navy will have to transfer on account of the debt for gas.
  14. rasputin17
    rasputin17 17 March 2014 11: 48
    +1
    Ukraine led by the new government in a bright and democratic society has jumped into the abyss of the bottom in which it will not soon see the light at the end of the tunnel! In this free fall, more than one area will break away from it and the economy will go to dust. And what is happening now in the Baltic countries is not even close to what Ukraine expects in a couple of years. There will be something like Libya or Iraq, but under our side!
  15. SibRUS
    SibRUS 17 March 2014 11: 48
    +6
    The armed forces of Ukraine turned out to be combat ready, despite 23 years of systematic destruction by the authorities.


    What kind of strength? They did not have such teachings for 14 (!) Years at all.

    "Dnepropetrovsk residents remain partial to the situation in Crimea. Governor Igor Kolomoisky supplies military armored vehicles with fuel, and ordinary citizens donate money for ammunition (!) belay for the army. "

    "The crown of the training range of the military of the 92nd separate mechanized brigade at the training ground in Bashkirovka was the execution of the march wassat to the specified area, said media center officer Lt. Col. Dmitry Gorbunov. According to him, several hundred servicemen took part in the march, as well as about 100 units of wheeled and tracked vehicles: T-64B tanks, BTR-70 tanks, engineering troops equipment, self-propelled combat units, logistic support vehicles, etc. Gorbunov noted that a large number of crews of military equipment hung out the flags of Ukraine on their vehicles "as a proof of their loyalty to the state and people of Ukraine." The regional Media Center also said that during the exercise, all military equipment in service with the Kharkov military was checked and, in the event of a problem, current repairs were carried out. "
    Source: http://vesti.ua/harkov/42788-pod-harkovom-granicu-s-rossiej-usilili-voennye
    1. Imperial
      Imperial 17 March 2014 12: 12
      +6
      Yes, in the east, the Ukrainian army is met
      1. brelok
        brelok 17 March 2014 16: 56
        +1
        In all commercial videos, the soldiers are inert. But types with very professional behavior jump up. This is alarming. They will make the first blood for nothing
        1. svp67
          svp67 17 March 2014 22: 11
          0
          Quote: brelok
          In all commercial videos, the soldiers are inert. But types with very professional behavior jump up. This is alarming. They will make the first blood for nothing
          In all BMD commercials, and this indicates that these are units of the airmobile forces, in principle, this is the BEST that Ukraine has now, with the appropriate training, so all this is EXPECTED and more, talking about 6 combat-ready soldiers is a bluff, Ukraine has more, three times ... so we should not relax ...
    2. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 17 March 2014 12: 42
      +6
      What are they doing, Kiev bastards! Yanukovych MUST speak out and give a direct order to return troops to the barracks, because he is formally the supreme commander so far. This will be at least a formal reason for many military to stop.
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 17 March 2014 13: 17
        +3
        Quote: Aleksandr65
        What are they doing, Kiev bastards! Yanukovych MUST speak out and give a direct order to return troops to the barracks, because he is formally the supreme commander so far. This will be at least a formal reason for many military to stop.

        Such pressure on the military is generally a useful thing. This is great morale soldiers. Not counting of course part of the stubborn ...
  16. avant-garde
    avant-garde 17 March 2014 11: 50
    +7
    Black Sea Fleet expects intensive renewal
    17.03.2014, 11: 35 | "Newspaper.Ru"
    The Black Sea Fleet expects restoration and intensive renewal “taking into account new strategic tasks in its area of ​​responsibility,” Interfax reports citing a source in the Navy’s General Staff.

    “The existing plan for the development of the forces of the Black Sea Fleet was unexpectedly outdated, because it was developed on the basis of the realities of yesterday,” the representative of the Navy said.

    According to him, new circumstances require immediate adjustments, which will be done in the near future.

    The representative of the General Staff of the Navy also pointed out that the elimination of "known political factors that significantly restrained the development of the Black Sea Fleet" in the coming years will noticeably change the face of this oldest Russian fleet.

    In addition, combat training plans will be adjusted, which will take into account all the nuances that have arisen.
  17. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 17 March 2014 11: 50
    +19
    I saw a clip when a column without weapons of the Ukrainian military with the flags of Ukraine and the USSR was walking with songs and shouts "America is with us" on three "polite" and serious armed people without identification marks .. I understood this is the end and the agony of the Armed Forces of Ukraine .. ( More than one army of the world will not be able to survive three Maidans) .. Let the Ukrainians have enough nm to ruin the army and your military industrial complex .. well, it's funny, it's already a pity .. Send these Yaytsenyukhov and Klyuchkov to x ... y .. Well, it's a shame already ..!
  18. Sergg
    Sergg 17 March 2014 11: 58
    +4
    Now it’s clear why the Americans gave out only cookies to the Ukrainian army.
  19. TAMERLAN 7
    TAMERLAN 7 17 March 2014 12: 01
    +19
    The worst thing is that they do not have an army provoke kindergarten to play war. Quite still boys, they will hear a lot of nonsense and make adults out of themselves. They play serious men going to defend their homeland. And everyone thinks that he is Rimbaud, and he is cannon fodder. And after all, not the oligarchs and their children, nor corrupt officials, nor Yatsenyuk, Klitschko and their right sector will go to war, but stupid children who do not understand why, why, for what! And against whom to fight? Against the brothers? For what? For a bright Bandera future with concentration camps and dissenters hanging on trees? A future in which there is no future?
  20. ikken
    ikken 17 March 2014 12: 09
    +7
    In the meantime ...
    Finland wants to be part of Russia

    March 15 2014
    Against the backdrop of the financial crisis unfolding in Europe, Russia's northern neighbor is trying to find its own way of escape from economic collapse. And the found option of salvation may surprise many. So, recently in Finland the idea of ​​close integration with the Russian Federation is becoming more and more popular - up to joining it.

    “Could Finland become Russian Hong Kong?” This is the name of the article in the authoritative journal Suomen Kuvalehti, written by an influential Finnish public figure, businessman and lawyer Hannu Krogerus.

    He himself answers this question positively: “This is what the current economic situation throughout the world requires, from Asia to America. Finland should seize the opportunity and gain the same international status with respect to Russia as Hong Kong has with respect to mainland China. ”

    According to him, in the current difficult economic conditions, the national tragedy lies in the fact that modern young, talented, but inexperienced politicians representing the interests of a narrow stratum of the elite practically want to isolate Finland from Russia.

    Interestingly, Hannu Krogerus is not alone in her opinion regarding the joint Finnish-Russian future. Recently, a member of the local parliament from the True Finns party, Juho Eerola, proposed to conclude a strategic military alliance between Finland and Russia. In his opinion, this is the only reliable way to guarantee the safety and welfare of the Finns. His party colleague, Hemmo Koskinini, went even further and demanded that Finland rejoin the Russian state. “Russia is for us the most reliable partner we trust,” the deputy said.


    According to the Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation, Russia is Finland's largest economic partner. And for the latter it would be very beneficial to join the TS. (http://www.ved.gov.ru/exportcountries/fi/fi_ru_relations/fi_ru_trade/)
    1. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 17 March 2014 12: 43
      +6
      Welcome! Then the Kingdom of Poland with Warsaw, Vilna with the surroundings .... however, I noticed if I burn out with left-bank Ukraine, I’ll throw it off at the monument to Putin.
  21. Sinbad
    Sinbad 17 March 2014 12: 17
    +3
    Quote: buzuke
    the armed forces of Ukraine turned out, despite 23 years of systematic destruction by the authorities, still battle-worthy. True, not in full force, only 6000 people, but even this is amazing.

    Yatsenyuk was very pleased, he was going to throw the last loot into the army, and even 1 billion dollars from the social network. pick up on it. it still won’t help the army, and his people would quickly raise them to the pitchfork. you have to be such a woodpecker ...

    Even if Ukraine will be given $ 2 billion in April, they will have to pay Russia’s debt for gas with the same money.
  22. fly fishing
    fly fishing 17 March 2014 12: 20
    +1
    Comes late. But it will certainly come and many will understand! ... And they will clean the infection like our grandfathers in the Second World War.
  23. Leprechaun
    Leprechaun 17 March 2014 12: 20
    +6
    The current "Ukrovlast" always has an option in reserve - to dissociate itself from the Right Sector and drain the entire stream of feces onto it.

    Something like:
    "We beat you with a forehead, father-tsar! Do not order to execute, command to say the word!"
    Forgive us, Uncle Putin, zatsev! Not by our will, this crap happened!
    We were going to protest peacefully against the treasury-Yanukovych, and they (Bendera) made a kipesh, they all shot! All the decisions of BP that after that were taken at gunpoint - they all came up with bad and specific radishes, they came up with! Here you have the heads of the ataman-instigators (list of names + bag).
    Let's live in peace!"


    The electorate applauds.
    The EU is boiling over shit about imposing sanctions on themselves.
    U Obama breaks the pattern.
    A curtain!
  24. doom
    doom 17 March 2014 12: 25
    0
    army to upgrade at the expense of the common people ... I have no words
    1. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 17 March 2014 12: 45
      0
      Well, how else? It’s always so, not only in Ukraine - it’s another thing to start rebuilding an army when such an ass is around ...
  25. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 17 March 2014 12: 26
    +1
    Quote: mojohed2012
    But the referendum has already passed, and Crimea is already Russia in fact

    In fact, they are today, now, an independent state. Read carefully the government decree of the ARC.
  26. kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 17 March 2014 12: 35
    +4
    We are waiting for Yatsenyuk, Turchinov and other trash in "Crosses"! And let Yanukovych write his memoirs "How I fucked up Ukraine"
  27. Naum
    Naum 17 March 2014 12: 37
    +3
    Quote: ikken
    demanded that Finland back into the Russian state.

    What is happening ?! Or am I delirious in reality, or the world has gone crazy?))) Pride, of course, overwhelms! Yeah. The Ugric brothers got bored there, the extreme wanted to go! Well, I’m not sorry, let them come! If it is serious, then a symptom, however. Russia is beginning to be perceived as a power and this is very good. not bad. It is unlikely that the "world gendarme" and the same "government" will like this prospect. The intensity of the confrontation will increase and something more serious will happen. We are not talking about a nuclear war - THEY are not complete "smart guys", their goal is power and money. Very big V. and D. No one will do hara-kiri, but podlyanki - easily. And first of all - with neighbors. I think that the Finns are not in vain twitching: the Gay Europeans will substitute them easily and quickly. They will find a way. So, wouldn't it be better to quickly, tighter, deeper preventively climb "under the wing" of a neighboring nuclear power? The alternative to being between a rock and a hard place certainly doesn't inspire them.
  28. Pesnyadv
    Pesnyadv 17 March 2014 12: 53
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    ... mmmmm, for the blue probably there will be no one.laughing


    How is it nobody ?!
    And the Klitschko brothers? !!!
    They starred for blue magazines ...
    And now they will help the blue
  29. Tehb
    Tehb 17 March 2014 12: 57
    +1
    Forward the Finns to the referendum. Although unlikely, they are too afraid of Russia. And on the other hand, it would be a slap in the west worse than Crimea.
  30. super-vitek
    super-vitek 17 March 2014 13: 30
    +8
    Brothers we make fun of them over the Army, and yet they are simply trampled, transferred by the power of corrupt creatures !!! They, like the Russian Army at 17, do not know where and who to go for !!! They just need help to decide and they are these creatures with a filthy broom sweep out, because they are SLAVES !!!
    1. Rjycnfynby7
      Rjycnfynby7 17 March 2014 19: 38
      0
      I definitely wrote this vote so far I can’t but completely agree how in one video one Ukrainian soldier for the first time in 20 years, although the march made the truth really turned back near Donetsk but at least such a positive moment (the locals wrapped them up)
  31. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 17 March 2014 13: 32
    +1
    Good article, everything is correctly said. There is nothing to add.
    The only thing ... is that, as it seems to me, the article says what the majority already knows. Well .. almost everything.
    Such articles should be promoted to Ukrainian forums, and not to VO.
    Nevertheless, the author is a well-deserved plus, as some elements of analytics are present.
  32. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 17 March 2014 13: 42
    +2
    Yes sane Ukrainians forgive me, there are still more of them than maydanuty (I hope), but let me quote the words of the Goblin from one of the issues of "Goblin news"
    "... the Ukrainians said that they were not at all for Yushchenko on the Maidan, they were simply against Kuchma. Very soon the newly-minted Maidan participants will say that they were not fascists at all for three months, they were simply against Yanukovych."
    Here the story will repeat itself, for sure, you don’t need to go to the grandmother ...
  33. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 March 2014 14: 09
    0
    Hmm. Food surplus is not the best time to introduce now. All Ukraine will definitely scatter, or rather, it will run back to us. But we don’t seem to need to do anything. Just give troops introductory give and drive them along the border with the independent. Ukraine itself will go out and fall apart.
  34. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 March 2014 14: 09
    0
    Hmm. Food surplus is not the best time to introduce now. All Ukraine will definitely scatter, or rather, it will run back to us. But we don’t seem to need to do anything. Just give troops introductory give and drive them along the border with the independent. Ukraine itself will go out and fall apart.
  35. densh
    densh 17 March 2014 15: 50
    +2
    Today, the parliament of Ukraine is a notorious battle bugger MP Lyashko in all seriousness introduced a curious bill.

    In particular, it says that “The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine will never, under any circumstances, agree to the annexation of Crimea by Russia. During military aggression, the death penalty is introduced for all traitors, saboteurs, marauders, deserters and spies. "

    "Taking into account the financial situation of the armed forces of Ukraine, appeal to the governments of the EU, the United States and NATO countries with a request to allocate maximum material and technical assistance in the form of modern weapons and equipment," Lyashko suggests.

    In the draft resolution there are clauses on breaking diplomatic relations with Russia, denunciation of all agreements, including the presence of the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea, as well as the introduction of a visa regime with Russia.

    "Everyone who participates in separatist rallies, contributes to the split of Ukraine, should be prosecuted by the General Prosecutor's Office" for high treason ", and also deprived of Ukrainian citizenship. In particular, the GPU must submit to parliament documents on the deprivation of parliamentary powers: Oleg Tsarev, Vadim Kolesnichenko, Boris Deich, with subsequent prosecution. "

    I am glad, however, that she has not bothered much with lawmaking lately - after today's short meeting convened to announce a "partial mobilization" (Turchinov has not yet decided to introduce the planned "special provision"), she retired to rest until next Tuesday, but the bill will obviously be considered, and - quite possibly - has already been adopted as law ...
  36. siberalt
    siberalt 17 March 2014 16: 15
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    The mobilization of the "army of Ukraine", simultaneously with its modernization, and even in such a situation, is complete madness. The opposition of the bandit authorities to the federal structure will lead to the collapse of the entire state into separate territories. Therefore, Russia proposes its own plan for reorganizing the understatement into something sane together with the EU and the United States.
    1. clidon
      clidon 17 March 2014 20: 22
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      What should they do? To stay in power and stabilize the situation in the country, they always attracted those who obey by order. And this is what no, but the army. It is necessary to strengthen oneself, to stop the wave of separatism (otherwise the country will simply collapse like a house of cards), try to create at least some kind of defense line in the east. And all this for a billion dollars in a country experiencing an economic collapse.
  37. Sypress
    Sypress 17 March 2014 16: 31
    +1
    Quote: TEHb
    Forward the Finns to the referendum. Although unlikely, they are too afraid of Russia.


    Is it worth it? The Finns, for the most part, have far from the best opinion of Russians, somewhere they hate Russians, and somewhere they are afraid, but they always look down on them. We are kind of second-rate to them. They have not forgiven us for Pitkyaranta, Lakhdenpohya, Vyborg "wrested" from them after the war. Their attitude to the Karelians is rather warm, they sleep and see Karelia as part of Finland. So the people are still ... By the way, in the border areas of Chukhonka, (as we call it in Karelia), our ruble has long been in use in all stores. And yet, in more or less large stores, there is always a Russian-speaking seller.
  38. tolancop
    tolancop 17 March 2014 17: 21
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    If not a duck, then why not? There is no point in accepting into the Russian Federation, they are too different, but it is quite worth formalizing an alliance in a different form. Russia does not have many allies to give up. And so too many of them were lost.
  39. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic 17 March 2014 19: 11
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    they fought against poverty and impoverished poverty
  40. razved
    razved 17 March 2014 21: 17
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    One had to be completely naive in order to believe in tales about lustration of power. Now they have reached the authorities to strangle those who think otherwise.
  41. mvv
    mvv 17 March 2014 21: 18
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    bees against honey! oligarchs against Yanukovych! and in Kiev herds began to roam muddy identities and check dokumenty and telephones from the majors. ugh, SHAME!
  42. kocclissi
    kocclissi 18 March 2014 00: 58
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    These beauties of the campaign began to realize the STALKER concept! They want to make an exclusion zone from Ukraine!
  43. acute
    acute 18 March 2014 12: 19
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    Quote: Sevastopol
    GDP is right - Yanukovych is a political corpse, but it can still come in handy. Maybe you didn’t notice, from Donetsk and Kharkov there were, so far, timid, subtle appeals to Yanukovych - say you are the legitimate president, restore order by any means.

    No. We need new, homegrown, able to go to the end. And Yanek is a traitor, much that happened thanks to him. and such new guys will soon take the stage, only they need to be supported
    1. clidon
      clidon 18 March 2014 16: 26
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      So Russia’s hand is what happened. There would be no destabilization of power, there would be no Maidan, and Crimea would remain Ukrainian. I think that they will still give him a medal for this.