Crimeans intercepted American shock drone

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Crimeans intercepted American shock drone
American drone MQ-5B


In the sky over Perekop, the MQ-5B reconnaissance drone was intercepted. At the same time, the American belonging of the UAV finally became clear. Judging by the onboard marking, he was part of the grouping of the 66 American military intelligence brigade with the main location in Bavaria.

In early March 2014, the 66th American reconnaissance brigade was deployed to Ukrainian Kirovograd, anaga.ru reports. From here Drones carry out reconnaissance raids towards the Crimea and Russian border regions.

In addition, there have already been reports of the appearance of American mercenaries in the Kherson region near the Crimean checkpoint Chongar.

The MQ-5B was walking at a height of about 4000 meters from the setting sun and was not visible from the ground. He was intercepted with the help of the Russian electronic warfare complex (EW) 1L222 Avtobaz and got the forces of self-defense almost intact. Avtobaz broke the connection of the UAV with its American operators, after which the device made an emergency landing.

With the help of the same Russian EW complex in December 2011, the Iranian military put the American secret drone RQ-170 Sentinel into the air.

The 66 reconnaissance brigade was armed with the 18 MQ-5B. The Americans have already lost two of them over the Crimea.


Russian complex EW 1L222 'Avtobaza'
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  1. +37
    15 March 2014 06: 55
    And where is the photo of the intercepted drone?
    1. +37
      15 March 2014 06: 59
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      And where is the photo of the intercepted drone?

      I’m lost, however, they will say (crash in the program, yeah) ... winked
      1. +9
        15 March 2014 07: 07
        Name

        I’m lost, however, they say (crash in the program, yeah) ..

        I wonder why they hung the Helfers, probably preparing to suddenly attack.
        1. +51
          15 March 2014 07: 34
          Quote: Ivan Tarasov
          I wonder why they hung up

          Yes, this is a photo from an Internet left.
          The Americans still have drones, soon it will be possible to offer them supplies of spare parts lol
          1. +21
            15 March 2014 07: 41
            Americans always underestimate us, but it’s good that we are not literate and that, this is our superiority.
            1. Mature naturalist
              +6
              15 March 2014 17: 17
              PR "Military Observer". Or conspiracy on the part of Rostec.

              Official refutation of the State Corporation

              Rostec does not confirm information on the facts of using the AvtoBAZ hardware on the territory of the Crimean peninsula

              The state corporation Rostec does not officially confirm the information appeared in a number of media about the facts of using the AvtoBAZ technical equipment on the territory of the Crimean peninsula.

              The Corporation is responsible for the quality of the products supplied, but is not responsible for the movement and results of the use of equipment supplied by the Corporation's enterprises on the orders of counterparties.

              The primary source of published information is the Military Explorer Internet portal.

              The responsibility for the correctness, reliability and completeness of the published information lies with the editorial board of Voenniy Obozrevatel.
              1. Bashkaus
                +4
                15 March 2014 19: 12
                Oh, okay, it doesn’t. It does not confirm, and it is not necessary, let us assume that, as always, God's Providence saves the Orthodox!
                In May 2008, nobody remembered the downing of the Georgian UAV, nobody confirmed the entry of the railway troops into Abkhazia, just then the inactive railway line to Sukhum was miraculously transformed and electrified thanks to the prayers of the New Athos monks)))
          2. +22
            15 March 2014 07: 58
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The Americans still have drones, soon it will be possible to offer them supplies of spare parts

            You can and all that is planted, but pre-stuffed with RDX and the inscription "From Russia with love." They love firecrackers on the Maidan, let them have fun ... Sasha, hi !
            1. +11
              15 March 2014 08: 05
              Quote: Tersky

              It’s possible that they’ve completely planted everything,

              I don’t know, it’s written, almost intact laughing In any case, one less, let them still run wink
              Hi drinks
              1. +9
                15 March 2014 09: 17
                so the US Defense Department’s budget can collapse completely and completely
              2. +23
                15 March 2014 11: 17
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                In any case, one less, let them still run

                If this continues, the management of the 66th American Military Intelligence Brigade will have to move to Crimea and take the Russian oath - the equipment will soon be with us anyway.
                Hi Sanya!
              3. +8
                15 March 2014 14: 16
                Still well done Crimeans. Hold the brand.
            2. +17
              15 March 2014 09: 49
              With respect to Russian space satellites from the territory of western Ukraine, an attempt to use electronic warfare systems has been recorded. It is reported by the Ministry of Communications of Russia.

              The ministry noted that "people who make such decisions should think about the consequences."

              No further details are provided.
              1. mamba
                +9
                15 March 2014 12: 22
                Quote: Siberian19
                In relation to Russian space satellites from the territory of western Ukraine, an attempt was registered to use electronic warfare. ... "the people who make these decisions need to think about the consequences."

                And the consequences will be in the form of X-58 missiles:
                1. Bashkaus
                  +4
                  15 March 2014 19: 16
                  I have long offered to shoot back from Tu95go on the Maidan and Rada during sittings, and then clear everything with alpha. Then the Maidan on the Maidan themselves immediately dissolve
                  1. 0
                    16 March 2014 01: 19
                    If it remains, then something will resolve! Rather, after the Tu-95go, the work will be done by the janitors, so that they would sweep and extort the Maidan from nEzalezhnye Bandera laughing !
              2. +6
                15 March 2014 12: 51
                And here it is specifically the special forces should work without any diplomacy ....
              3. +6
                15 March 2014 13: 49
                “The relevant services determined the exact location of the source on the territory of Ukraine,” the agency stressed, ITAR-TASS reports.
                .... an attempt to use electronic warfare means on a Russian repeater satellite is a violation of the provisions of Articles 45 and 48 of the Charter of the International Telecommunication Union of December 22, 1992.

                http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/3/15/677212.html
              4. +2
                15 March 2014 21: 01
                The hour of the Iskander OTRK has come! drinks
            3. infinite silence ...
              +24
              15 March 2014 11: 30
              From the Crimea with love ...)))
              Do not be famously ...
              1. +4
                15 March 2014 13: 42
                Quote: infinite silence ...
                From the Crimea with love ...)))
                Do not be famously ...


                The meaning is double in the picture. Who do you think the clearing is covered in?
                1. infinite silence ...
                  +8
                  15 March 2014 13: 43
                  Eh! ... Semen Semyonitch! Of course banderlog))))))))))

                  We all understand that the intensification of provocations at the moment is connected with the referendum.
                  1. +5
                    15 March 2014 14: 39
                    Quote: infinite silence ...
                    Eh! ... Semen Semyonitch! Of course banderlog))))))))))


                    I just wanted to make sure that I didn’t put a plus for nothing good

                    I just think that everything except F-1 is superfluous there laughing
          3. +5
            15 March 2014 09: 20
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The Americans still have drones, soon it will be possible to offer them supplies of spare parts

            good Thin trolling for amers
            1. +22
              15 March 2014 11: 00
              Quote: Prometey
              Thin trolling for amers

              Here the main thing is something else. If the information is not fake, then it turns out that the American units are near Kirovograd! They impose sanctions so that we would withdraw the troops from the territory of Ukraine, and the troops themselves. This is tryndets!
              1. +11
                15 March 2014 11: 47
                Bingo! It is necessary to protect the southeast of Ukraine from NATO aggression. The population of these regions has long been calling on Russia to protect their territories and population.
              2. +7
                15 March 2014 12: 59
                Isn't it time to send a group of "independent experts" to Kirovograd, seize eyewitnesses and evidence, and explain the disappearance of a unit by an explosion of bolt-gas ...
              3. WKS
                +1
                15 March 2014 16: 18
                Could fly and from NATO Romania 330 km.
                1. Bashkaus
                  +1
                  15 March 2014 19: 23
                  They can fly, only this is the Orthodox land, there is an opinion that at the end of the centuries the devil himself awakens to be afraid of these places.
              4. Bashkaus
                0
                15 March 2014 19: 21
                What are you worried about? Officially, there are no Russian military in Crimea, only the Black Sea Fleet base, but it will turn out like in the good old action movie: brave American soldiers are attacked by unknown green men ...
              5. +1
                15 March 2014 22: 21
                the actions of mattress-makers do not lend themselves to logic at all, this is clear to everyone. For the sake of geopolitical ambitions, they are ready and not so twisted. This applies to all actions of the United States in Ukraine and not only. They constantly make mistakes, conduct a frank aggressive policy, climb into every trap with all 4 paws. Time works against them, the United States needs a large-scale war anywhere, the only way to save this country from default and the collapse of the dollar. This gambit falls into cabbage soup or of Ukraine, which is understandable, or all of Europe, which is blown away for US actions. The collapse of the eurozone is just around the corner, and there is no alternative currency to the euro and the dollar. When the euro collapses, the dollar will climb up ...
              6. 0
                15 March 2014 23: 56
                Quote: tungus
                If the information is not fake, then it turns out that the American units are near Kirovograd!

                Well, obviously something is being prepared for Sunday evening in the spirit of 08.08.08. We shredded all the TV programs, changed the time of submission of news, slipped "Viy", which had not yet left the cinema screens, on television, etc., and so on.
          4. +8
            15 March 2014 13: 19
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The Americans still have drones, soon it will be possible to offer them supplies of spare parts


            Just from those purchased by Serdyukov and Popovkin in Israel.

            The MQ-5B Hunter drone was developed in Israel based on the earlier Israeli Impact UAV. The aircraft has two Italian Moto Guzzi gasoline engines with a power of 60 hp. each. The motors are located in tandem: one in front and the other behind the fuselage. The wingspan of the MQ-5B is 8,9 meters with a 7-meter length. Hunter flies at an altitude of 4600 meters, and with the naked eye it is practically invisible. The noise of motors from such a height is also hardly distinguishable, and given the close noise of the surf, it could not be recognized at all. The downed machine went to a dig from the west against the setting sun. General Pyatt's brigade initially included 18 MQ-5B devices, but one of them was shot down by Cossacks in the Armyansk region on March 10. According to some reports, its fragments have already been delivered to the research center of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. The drone, shot down yesterday, is almost intact. He was shot down not by fire, but with the help of the 1L222 Avtobaza installation. Having lost control from the command center, he actually made an emergency landing, having received only minor damage. Such a trophy, of course, is more valuable, and its study by our experts will improve our intelligence and counterintelligence equipment.
            Meanwhile, Pentagon spokeswoman Eileen Lines began urgently refuting information about information about the Americans losing their drone, and manufacturers of the Auto Base said they were not responsible for how their product would be used by the organizations that bought it.
            However, a video that had already appeared on the network was removed from the drone.

            Another drone shot down in the sky over the Crimea


            Video shot from an American drone in the Crimea. The date below is March 08, 2014.


            There is a statement that this video is from a Ukrainian plane, and military expert Korotchenko claims that it was not an American but a Ukrainian UAV. Although, if you believe Pedevikii Hunters, Ukraine does not have
            link
            Ukrainian UAV
            1. +8
              15 March 2014 13: 53
              Quote: Ascetic
              and manufacturers of Automobile depots said they were not responsible for how their product would be used by the organizations that bought it.


              ... and the manufacturers of the Topol-M complex said that they are not responsible for how their product will be used by the organizations that bought it laughing
            2. -29
              15 March 2014 14: 12
              Infa fake ... and the video was shot from an airplane of a (borderless) border guards ... no need to juggle the facts
              1. +3
                15 March 2014 15: 09
                Interesting ... but don’t tell me the airplane brand?
                1. Windbreak
                  +3
                  15 March 2014 18: 58
                  DA-42 http://dpsu.gov.ua/en/about/structure/structure_63.htm
              2. +9
                15 March 2014 15: 52
                I draw your attention, members of the forum, that "Muxalet" is a Bandera "zaslanets" !!!!
                Respect comrade Moderators hi - until ??? !!!
                Tracked all his comments, which is easy for anyone registered !!! Or just not to swear on the "air", or we are more liberal than them, Banderpogs, it turns out, which turned off all our media ??? !!! hi
                Z.Y. And do not say that this site is out of politics !!! hi
              3. +1
                15 March 2014 18: 41
                Quote: Muxalet
                Infa fake ... and the video was shot from an airplane of a (borderless) border guards ... no need to juggle the facts

                Take a closer look, the video is real. The Americans scream the loudest than the thief. Sami have long been shitting in Ukraine.
              4. roller2
                +1
                15 March 2014 21: 42
                Quote: Muxalet
                Infa fake ... and the video was shot from an airplane of a (borderless) border guards ... no need to juggle the facts

                And how did it go, what is the truth about juggling the facts like a sickle in the balls? Or is it already being minus not for facts but for a flag?
                1. 0
                  16 March 2014 00: 41
                  Quote: rolik2
                  ... Or is it already being minus not for facts but for a flag?

                  Of course, and for a long time, but for you this is news ?! belay
                  lol
            3. +2
              15 March 2014 14: 38
              Quote: Ascetic
              There is a statement that this video is from a Ukrainian plane

              And what the hell does IT fly over the Crimea? Must Tor or Tunguska.RLS that there is no chtoli?
              1. +2
                15 March 2014 16: 21
                Battery "Shilok" is not enough ??? (In height - I served in "fuel oil" laughing hi )
            4. WKS
              +5
              15 March 2014 16: 39
              The posted video was shot from a low-flying device. Height is 100-300 meters. This is seen by the angular displacement. According to the report, the intercepted device was at an altitude of more than 4000 meters.
            5. Kuzkin Batyan
              +5
              15 March 2014 18: 44
              If this video is from a drone, then is it worth the soldier to blind him with a pointer? From the video it’s clear that the plane is flying low. And the plane is not small, since the soldier managed to aim the pointer in the cockpit.
              1. Bashkaus
                +2
                15 March 2014 19: 31
                In principle, you can understand the guys, you can’t shine civilian planes on a civilian, but as much as you like)))) I just think that guys from this age have already grown up, they would now be able to shoot at these drones;)
          5. +2
            15 March 2014 14: 02
            and by the way, the main idea is that drones are good for Bedouins and Palestinians to shoot enough easy to intercept communication with the base, not protected, low-speed, not high-altitude, so that against air defense it is powerless only with complete absence of air defense the rest
            1. +1
              16 March 2014 00: 49
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              and by the way, the main idea is that drones are good for Bedouins and Palestinians to shoot enough easy to intercept communication with the base, not protected, low-speed, not high-altitude, so that against air defense it is powerless only with complete absence of air defense the rest

              Syrian air defense in 1982 was "drank" precisely due to the massive use of UAVs (false targets, radio intelligence, electronic warfare, fire adjustment).
              And there are also UAV-kamikaze, whose task is to search and destroy radar and air defense systems.

              "Competence and knowledge of materiel in battle - separates life from death" ©
              1. +2
                16 March 2014 01: 31
                So it was in 1982! And now in the yard what year ???
                Thought, both technical and TACTICAL, does not stand still, but develops. And the countermeasures are surely designed long ago!
                1. 0
                  16 March 2014 18: 54
                  Quote: TT1968
                  So it was in 1982! And now in the yard what year ???
                  Thought, both technical and TACTICAL, does not stand still, but develops. And the countermeasures are surely designed long ago!

                  And this, it should be noted, is natural for both parties, moreover, it must be taken into account that in Russia there was a delay in the development of technology after the collapse of the USSR, at least for 15 years, at the current pace of technology development - this is very, very much.
                  Proceeding from this, the ratio is even worse than in 1982, and it will take a lot of time to fix it, and it can only be corrected by hard work, but not by empty propaganda - China is a good example of this, and Iran is bad, the former plow and produce results, the latter give pearls about "super achievements" over which the whole world laughs.
              2. +2
                16 March 2014 02: 38
                it’s not in vain that they first of all put the Shell C1 ... a lot of which has changed in 1982
                1. 0
                  16 March 2014 19: 00
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  No wonder they first of all put the Shell of the C1 ..


                  Well, they did.
                  And did that change de facto?
                  Are there any consequences of this action?
                  At least some? request
                  1. +2
                    17 March 2014 06: 36
                    and your UAVs are flying a lot over Syria now?
          6. +2
            15 March 2014 14: 07
            Alexander Romanov
            Yes, this is a photo from an Internet left.

            And where is the photo of the intercepted drone?
          7. Phase
            +2
            15 March 2014 15: 49
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The Americans still have drones, soon it will be possible to offer them supplies of spare parts


            Blame chtol partly? And the sergeant said with a shock:
            "That's what happiness means to a guy! Look - and an order. Like from a bush!"
            Not hesitating with the answer, the guy gives the change:
            "Do not grieve. This German is not the last plane!"
            With this joke-joke circled the battalion
            Passed into the heroes of Terkin (it was of course he).


            A. Twardowski
      2. +6
        15 March 2014 07: 18
        And we will reprogram it in our own way and let it go back, but it will already follow the Americans and look for their movements.
        1. +23
          15 March 2014 07: 47
          So exactly in the Crimea, polite people will not let you down
      3. AVV
        +4
        15 March 2014 14: 03
        Quote: name
        Quote: Ivan Tarasov
        And where is the photo of the intercepted drone?

        I’m lost, however, they will say (crash in the program, yeah) ... winked

        We’ll plant everything, not a single holy night will pass !!!
    2. +22
      15 March 2014 06: 59
      What you see on the screen saver goes through one of the shots in television reports ... Only in the article for some reason they did not indicate that the UAV planted self-defense forces .. And this is important. Just because it shows the composition of these forces. Not guys, but retirees and army storerooms.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. s1н7т
        +16
        15 March 2014 07: 47
        Quote: domokl
        retirees and reserve army.

        I can hardly imagine how they immediately sat down at the remote control and retired the drone laughing
        1. +7
          15 March 2014 08: 31
          Shhh. The enemy is eavesdropping. All ears to his door erased. lol
          1. WKS
            +2
            15 March 2014 16: 52
            Let him listen. There are so many noodles on his ears ...
        2. +10
          15 March 2014 10: 03
          I recall the recent heated debate about the superiority of US drones. And one professor from Israel even argued that the Iranians were lying, it was impossible to land a drone, it was he who had just fallen. It turns out that a computer loses to a person many times over. Something like this.
          1. -10
            15 March 2014 10: 21
            Quote: GregAzov
            And one professor from Israel even argued that the Iranians were lying, it was impossible to land a drone, it was he who had just fallen.

            Already there is evidence of the "planted" drone? wink
            1. 0
              15 March 2014 10: 40
              Quote: professor
              Already there is evidence of the "planted" drone?
              Do not worry, Lavrov has already shown everything to Carey ...
            2. roller2
              -34
              15 March 2014 11: 35
              Quote: professor
              Already there is evidence of the "planted" drone?

              And where do they come from? if the article is a duck. Only uneducated people can believe that the electronic intelligence station can land a drone, there’s not even a transmitter; how will it transmit control signals?
              1. +4
                15 March 2014 11: 50
                And KUZKINA'S MOTHER for what? fellow
              2. +20
                15 March 2014 12: 15
                Planted .....
                The Rosehip complex worked; it has the ability to triangulate signals ...
                but I didn’t tell you that)))))
                1. Mature naturalist
                  +9
                  15 March 2014 21: 52
                  Found about "Rosehip-Aero". Thing!

                  The fight against UAVs. It takes about 25 seconds to detect a drone operating under the operator’s control until the control signal is suppressed (there is a universal decoding algorithm for removing the frequency hopping sequence), if the frequencies are known in advance, then about 700 microseconds.

                  After jamming the control signal in drones, a program is triggered to return the device to the launch point. To prevent this, "Rosehip Aero" creates a false navigation field (time to create - a few minutes), changing the dynamic coordinates, as a result of which the UAV is taken to the side and ultimately can land where we need, and not the enemy.
              3. +8
                15 March 2014 12: 26
                Quote: rolik2
                Only uneducated people can believe that the electronic intelligence station can land a drone, there’s not even a transmitter; how will it transmit control signals?

                Yes, intelligence stations simply DETECT the source of the signal, in this case the UAV, there are other means for everything else ... because the list of systems and equipment for electronic warfare systems is not limited to the presence of Avtobaza, which, by the way, was clearly proven in Iran .. ...
              4. +11
                15 March 2014 12: 30
                Ooh. Yes, you are special. But for a normal UAV flight, you need a bunch of constantly updated data, from GPS to elementary toposcanning. So electronic warfare systems easily cope with "dusting the brain", the system malfunctions, and the drone crashes (sits down)
                1. Russkiy53
                  +5
                  15 March 2014 15: 09
                  :))) you, too, are "special" :))) ... does not sit down, just, when the signal is jammed, it breaks the connection with the base, turns on, some kind of autonomous program, it stupidly turns around and goes home :) )).like this:)!
                  1. +1
                    15 March 2014 19: 12
                    Those. The UAV was supposed to turn around and fly to Kirovograd?
                    And why did he fall (accidentally landed) in the Crimea?
                    :) there are only specialists around ... laughing
              5. -22
                15 March 2014 14: 38
                Quote: rolik2
                Only uneducated people can believe that the electronic intelligence station can land a drone, there’s not even a transmitter; how will it transmit control signals?

                Have a conscience. Do not be so upset about it. Let them think that the Wunderwaffle Carpool is capable of anything.
                1. Russkiy53
                  +10
                  15 March 2014 15: 15
                  Wunderwafel :)))! And how else, her own goys did :))) - she, in general, can not :)))!
                  1. -10
                    15 March 2014 15: 28
                    Quote: Russkiy53
                    Wunderwafel :)))! And how else, her own goys did :))) - she, in general, can not :)))!

                    You would instruct the materiel and might not write such nonsense. start the study of the hardware at least with how much time (hint: hundreds of years) cryptologists need to find the key to the encrypted signal. When you learn it, read about antennas with a controlled radiation pattern and how they are jammed. And then we can talk.
                    1. Russkiy53
                      +8
                      15 March 2014 15: 44
                      And I was not talking about breaking the key, but about your attitude towards people :) !!!
                      1. -7
                        15 March 2014 15: 47
                        Quote: Russkiy53
                        And I was not talking about breaking the key, but about your attitude towards people :) !!!

                        For some reason you dragged the gentiles. Provocateur?

                        Is there something clever to say in the materiel? hi
                      2. iSpoiler
                        +9
                        15 March 2014 16: 28
                        They simply jammed the radio control channel. The plane fell and crashed. I don’t see anything complicated.
                      3. roller2
                        -4
                        15 March 2014 21: 07
                        Quote: iSpoiler
                        They simply jammed the radio control channel. The plane fell and crashed. I don’t see anything complicated.

                        Well, how can you score a UAV signal from the ground when the antenna has an upward directional pattern? And why didn’t he fly away to the launch site? Crap all UTB.
                    2. +6
                      15 March 2014 18: 09
                      Do you believe that locks are opened with a master key? in most cases, they simply break it out with a fitting or a sledgehammer with a piece of the door. And how many millions combinations of keys.
                      1. zaazua
                        -9
                        15 March 2014 19: 00
                        if only he had been shot down, then they would have spoken about a sledgehammer, and this is a master key!
                      2. 0
                        16 March 2014 22: 16
                        if you intercepted the master key. just hammered the communication channel with a sledgehammer. study the topic of electronic warfare first. a lot of questions will disappear
                    3. +1
                      15 March 2014 19: 14
                      Those. Do you insist that UAVs were not shot down, did not land, and he did not crash?
                    4. +8
                      15 March 2014 21: 15
                      Well, now everything is the same, but in a more understandable language, the Hardware is designed to combat unmanned aerial vehicles, in addition, it can also be used to suppress broadcast stations, command centers, cellular signals, Wi-Fi, WiMax, DECT networks. You can put wideband interference and crush all signals, you can put narrowband and suppress a certain frequency range, you can put informational interference, which will distort the information. That is, in contrast to the army electronic warfare stations, it is not a barrage jamming that focuses on the receiver’s error, but an informational jamming that focuses on the decoder’s error.
                      The fight against UAVs. It takes about 25 seconds to detect a drone operating under the operator’s control until the control signal is suppressed (there is a universal decoding algorithm for removing the frequency hopping sequence), if the frequencies are known in advance, then about 700 microseconds. The main time is spent on collecting and processing statistics on the object, suppression occurs almost instantly. The developers themselves believe that for now this is too long a time span and will try to reduce it.
                      After jamming the control signal in the drones, a program is triggered to return the vehicle to the launch point. To prevent this, "Rosehip Aero" creates a false navigation field (time to create - a few minutes), changing dynamic coordinates, as a result of which the UAV is pulled aside and ultimately can land where we need, and not the enemy.
                      Since the development is proactive (the ROC has not been opened), it has not yet been necessary to deal with "live" drones, as long as there is only technical information on their parameters provided by the Ministry of Defense. There have already been some tests at the proving ground near Voronezh.
                      The station and the control room can work in pairs, which allows taking two bearings simultaneously and more accurately determining the location of the object along which the Rosehip Aero can work both in motion and stationary, both directly from the control room and from the remote station. Remote work is being done. The bearing accuracy is 2-3 degrees, the station deployment time is about 20-40 minutes.
                      The crew of the car is 3 people: a driver and 2 operators. lol
                      1. +1
                        15 March 2014 21: 20
                        Rosehip-Aero
                        Source: http://3mv.ru/forum/9-344-1
                      2. -6
                        15 March 2014 22: 08
                        Quote: oldstaryi
                        It takes about 25 seconds to detect a drone operating under the operator’s control until the control signal is suppressed (there is a universal decoding algorithm for removing the frequency hopping sequence),

                        Before copying nonsense, try to think for yourself. 25 seconds for decoding to remove the frequency hopping sequence (pseudo-random switching of operating frequencies)? That is, what is impossible to decode even in theory, you do in 25 seconds? In frequency hopping, a signal jumps from frequency to frequency in a pseudo-random sequence. At what frequency in the next millisecond the signal will pass only to the receiver and transmitter. Is it more intelligible?

                        Quote: oldstaryi
                        To prevent this, "Rosehip Aero" creates a false navigation field (time to create - a few minutes), changing dynamic coordinates, as a result of which the UAV is diverted to the side and ultimately can land where we need, and not the enemy.

                        Well, how will he transmit this field to this antenna when it looks up? It's like dazzling me with a flashlight shining in the back of my head.
                      3. roller2
                        0
                        15 March 2014 22: 18
                        Quote: professor
                        Well, how will he transmit this field to this antenna when it looks up? It's like dazzling me with a flashlight shining in the back of my head.

                        You do not understand yet? That the comrades are not trying to explain HOW this is possible, but are trying to fit the situation with the existing equipment, while they are not even trying to comprehend at what frequencies and what signals the UAVs work.
                      4. -3
                        15 March 2014 22: 22
                        Quote: rolik2
                        You do not understand yet? That the comrades are not trying to explain HOW this is possible, but are trying to fit the situation with the existing equipment, while they are not even trying to comprehend at what frequencies and what signals the UAVs work.

                        Yes, I understood this a long time ago. I am simply amazed that there is not a single specialist here.
                      5. roller2
                        +2
                        15 March 2014 22: 27
                        Quote: professor
                        Yes, I understood this a long time ago. I am simply amazed that there is not a single specialist here.

                        After the Russian troops entered Crimea, a bunch of political articles and trolls with 9-class education appeared on this site that only minus and throw pseudo-patriotic slogans. The knowledge is zero but the seal is above the roof.
                      6. -1
                        15 March 2014 22: 37
                        Quote: rolik2
                        After the Russian troops entered Crimea, a bunch of political articles and trolls with 9-class education appeared on this site that only minus and throw pseudo-patriotic slogans. The knowledge is zero but the seal is above the roof.

                        I hope in Ukraine the situation will soon be resolved and normal articles on this resource will return. hi
                      7. 0
                        16 March 2014 02: 56
                        But would you like to praise Novodvorskaya and Nemtsov on the patriots website and revel in amers?
                      8. 0
                        16 March 2014 02: 55
                        are you one of them
                      9. 0
                        16 March 2014 02: 54
                        specialists are busy, your drones shoot down
                      10. roller2
                        +1
                        16 March 2014 04: 33
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        But would you like to praise Novodvorskaya and Nemtsov on the patriots website and revel in amers?

                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        are you one of them

                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        specialists are busy, your drones shoot down

                        On this site the technical side of the issue was always discussed, not the political or just crazy, but this article refers specifically to crazy (why? - wrote above). For urapatriots, there are other sites where they, like roosters, try to paint more beautifully the achievement of their homeland, and more often than not, by lying.
                2. Capyar 48315
                  +15
                  15 March 2014 16: 11
                  On the other hand, your supervunderwolf "Iron Dome" recently managed to shoot down three out of 42 missiles launched from the Gaza Strip. Super efficiency considering the technological level of the goals. The age of a system is not always an indicator of its effectiveness !!!
              6. +4
                15 March 2014 17: 03
                He was intercepted with the help of the Russian complex. electronic warfare (REB) 1L222 "Avtobaza"
              7. 0
                16 March 2014 00: 19
                Quote: rolik2
                a drone can land

                No matter how they planted, he himself fell
            3. +25
              15 March 2014 11: 59
              Quote: professor

              Already there is evidence of the "planted" drone?

              Shalom professor hi I remember, I remember your comments that there are no pictures of drones planted by Iran wink But then, apparently Akhminizhat and how your comment there saw it, posted a whole video laughing
              Leave your skepticism, the United States will not recognize the loss until it is shown to the whole world, and ours until it is shown for reasons that are understandable. If it was put in, it has already been disassembled for parts and is being carefully studied hi
              1. jjj
                +5
                15 March 2014 12: 08
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                it has already been disassembled for parts and is being carefully studied

                To learn how to take control and direct to the rightful owners
              2. +14
                15 March 2014 14: 06
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                The United States does not recognize the loss until it is shown to the whole world, and ours until it is shown for reasons that are understandable.

                Hi Sash. You can not go far and remember the U-1960 shot down in 2. Until Powers was presented, the United States did not recognize the fact of reconnaissance flights over the territory of the USSR.
              3. -11
                15 March 2014 14: 41
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Professor Shalom. I remember, I remember your comments that there are no pictures of drones planted by Iran. But then, apparently Akhminizhat, and how your comment there saw it, posted a whole video

                Fallen dear, fallen. Or do you upload his pictures again? wink

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                If they put him in, then he has already been dismantled for parts and is being carefully studied.

                What does "if" mean? Have you already begun to doubt? It is said "put" in prison, and there can be no questions. laughing
                1. +8
                  15 March 2014 16: 29
                  Quote: professor
                  . Or do you upload his pictures again?

                  I will be grateful and look with great pleasure. wink
                  Quote: professor

                  What does "if" mean? Have you already begun to doubt?

                  No, I have no doubt, but I proceed from your comment WHERE THE PHOTOS hi
                  Quote: professor
                  It is said "put" in prison, and there can be no questions.

                  I understood you when you doubted the capabilities of Iran, but when you are now questioning the possibilities of the Russian Federation, you openly offend me. We have something that you don’t have, not Obama. No pathos, in fact wink
                  1. -2
                    15 March 2014 16: 43
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    I will be grateful and look with great pleasure.

                    Here he is transported from the place where he crashed.


                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    I understood you when you doubted Iran’s capabilities, but when you are now questioning the possibilities of the Russian Federation, you openly offend me.

                    Physics does not know nationality. Neither the Persians, nor the Russian Federation nor the United States can do this, although the United States objectively has more opportunities.
                    1. 0
                      15 March 2014 21: 23
                      See comments above! lol
                    2. +4
                      15 March 2014 21: 30
                      Quote: professor
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      I will be grateful and look with great pleasure.

                      Here he is transported from the place where he crashed.

                      Well, and how to determine from these photos that he himself fell, and did not land with the help of Avtobaza?
                      ENOUGH WATER DIRTING RUSSIAN EQUIPMENT !!!
                      1. -4
                        15 March 2014 22: 15
                        Quote: 0255
                        Well, and how to determine from these photos that he himself fell, and did not land with the help of Avtobaza?

                        They landed him there, from where it could be taken out only in parts. Could not land on the runway?

                        Quote: 0255
                        ENOUGH WATER DIRTING RUSSIAN EQUIPMENT !!!

                        Finish sniffing glue and hallucinations may cease. wassat
                      2. +4
                        15 March 2014 23: 03
                        professor (2) IL Today, 22:15 PM ↑ They landed him there, from where it could be taken out only in parts. Could not land on the runway?

                        and if there was no runway nearby? Or, as the article says:
                        Avtobaza severed the UAV's connection with its American operators, after which the unit made an emergency landing.

                        The creators of "Avtobaza" admit the possibility of landing a UAV on it. Too lazy to look for a link.
                        Quote: professor
                        Finish sniffing glue and hallucinations may cease.

                        I do not suffer from substance abuse. And you don’t need to pour mud on Russian equipment !!!
                        Professor, I will not make a polemic with you about the F-15 and F-16 in Lebanon, you and I have no chance to convince each other of our point of view.
                        We wish the Russian military success in the difficult task of studying the US UAV bully
                      3. -2
                        15 March 2014 23: 46
                        Quote: 0255
                        and if there was no runway nearby?

                        In the vicinity? Throughout Iran? Or does the RQ-170 have a range of kilometers? winked

                        Quote: 0255
                        I do not suffer from substance abuse.

                        it happens

                        Quote: 0255
                        And you don’t need to pour mud on Russian equipment !!!

                        Again glitches or squirrel? wassat

                        Quote: 0255
                        Professor, I will not make a polemic with you about the F-15 and F-16 in Lebanon, you and I have no chance to convince each other of our point of view.

                        Facts, let the facts go to the studio and then no one will need to convince. Let's look at the American drone "planted" by green men and everything will fall into place.
              4. Russkiy53
                +1
                15 March 2014 15: 16
                Well ... it's true ... not to put him in prison: (... but you can "drive him out" :)))!
            4. -13
              15 March 2014 12: 13
              All this was good and unproven. For a long time there were photos if only this were .. Trap is about a drone
              1. +6
                15 March 2014 13: 44
                Quote: rumpeljschtizhen
                All this was good and unproven. For a long time there were photos if only this were .. Trap is about a drone


                Of course, blah ... for now, the self-defense forces will agree on a gift from the RF Armed Forces, but this will be after the referendum, so do not drive horses in front of the engine.
                Moreover, it’s time to get used to the fact that evidence of provocations of Amer’s military, on Ukrainian soil, will be provided at the most necessary (but absolutely not convenient for the USA) moment. Tolerate.
              2. WKS
                +2
                15 March 2014 17: 00
                Maybe they planted, or maybe just knocked down with a needle. Let the owners scratch their turnips - "Should I send the next one?" There are 16 more pieces left. 2 have already been written off.
            5. +3
              15 March 2014 14: 01
              Quote: professor
              Already there is evidence of the "planted" drone?

              Hello professor. Address cherkanite deliver home wassat
            6. +1
              15 March 2014 14: 19
              and what professor should you bring them home? wassat
              1. -4
                15 March 2014 14: 42
                Quote: Petr1
                and what professor should you bring them home? wassat

                Let's start with a photo of the evidence. Weak? wink
                1. +2
                  15 March 2014 15: 07
                  Yes, the entire Internet is already in these photos, all the American "friends" have made analogs, they are already taking gifts to Russia. smile
                  http://www.diapazon.kz/world/41264-iranskie-voennye-sbili-bespilotnik-ssha.html
                2. Phase
                  +6
                  15 March 2014 16: 05
                  Quote: professor
                  Let's start with a photo of the evidence. Weak?

                  Not "weak" but "early". Romanov pointed out to you quite accurately that the situation with the drone in Iran is being repeated. You then also demanded proofs and they appeared, just a little later.
                  About cryptologists. They are not necessary. "Planted" should be understood not as "intercepted control", but as "jammed the control channel", as a result of which it (control) was lost by the operator. Further pepelats sits on the forced.
                  Same as in Iran.
                  About the transmitter. At 1L22 (Autobase) it is not, but as if you do not know that it always works in conjunction with jamming stations. Traditionally - with SPN-2 and SPN-4, now - also with other stations.
                  Take a rest, Professor, take a rest! After all, the weekend! wink
                  1. -1
                    15 March 2014 16: 14
                    Quote: Phase
                    You then also demanded evidence and they appeared, just a little later.

                    A studio photo confirming that the Persians planted an American drone.

                    Quote: Phase
                    "Planted" should be understood not as "intercepted control", but as "jammed the control channel", as a result of which it (control) was lost by the operator. Further pepelats sits on the forced.

                    Well, can you tell us how you "jammed the control channel" in a broadband encrypted communication? Or should I tell you that it is almost impossible to do this? About the antenna with a controlled directional pattern, too, to tell?

                    Quote: Phase
                    Next pepelats sits on a forced one.

                    Further, any papelats, even a cheap dronka with an electric motor, lies on the way back. Ah .. I guessed. Jammed / replaced GPS signal? That's bad luck, the troops of the EW of Russia could not do this. Give a link?

                    Quote: Phase
                    Take a rest, Professor, take a rest! After all, the weekend!

                    So I also have a rest. lol
                    1. 0
                      15 March 2014 19: 29
                      Quote: professor
                      Ah .. I guessed. Jammed / replaced GPS signal? That's bad luck, the troops of the EW of Russia could not do this.


                      It is natural, what kind of Russian electronic warfare troops if they are not there? And self-defense forces oooh what cool guys they can. Especially on the Maidan know-how was first applied. Well, in the sense of a large-caliber slingshot. And nothing works. wink
              2. Russkiy53
                +3
                15 March 2014 15: 49
                There is a fad on the pictures :)))! I know one hospital with "professors": D!
            7. Mature naturalist
              +2
              15 March 2014 21: 54
              Professor, on Sabbath you cannot write in VO. Pray do not be distracted. Do not forget about candles.
            8. 0
              17 March 2014 06: 38
              our "stealth" shot down in Yugoslavia also did not really boast
        3. +6
          15 March 2014 12: 24
          In Sevastopol, a huge number of retired high-class specialists who served in the Russian Navy (and the Soviet one as well), and you do not need to learn such for a long time. Hands then, remember ...
        4. +1
          15 March 2014 14: 59
          And how the name "Avtobaza" pins ... The army humor is indestructible .. "Acacia", "Hyacinth", "Buratino" ...
          1. Russkiy53
            -1
            15 March 2014 15: 19
            Pinocchio, THING:))) !!!
        5. WKS
          -5
          15 March 2014 16: 50
          There, in R.K. "Moscow" is on duty. Most likely he planted it. And the self-defense units were wrapped in polyethylene, and they were taken to the Sevastopol Bay to specialists.
        6. 0
          16 March 2014 01: 33
          And UTB reserves from cyber troops! fellow
      3. +4
        15 March 2014 09: 17
        Not boys, but retirees and army vaults


        It is worth recognizing that there are not only private security companies. Our military specialists planted and from the intelligence services there are now full of specialists. It is necessary to show the world that Russia is reborn.
    3. platitsyn70
      +8
      15 March 2014 07: 57


      The newest air defense systems of Russia have been deployed in Crimea. So, on March 14, the latest Pantsir-C1 anti-aircraft missile systems were photographed to the will of Bakhchisarai.

      Reuters photojournalist David Mdzinarishvili made several shots of the military convoy, which included the Pantsir-C1 anti-aircraft missile and gun systems. Shell-C1 (GRAU index - 96K6, according to NATO codification - SA-22 Greyhound (English greyhound)) is a Russian ground-based self-propelled anti-aircraft missile and cannon system (SAM).

      Developed by the Tula State Unitary Enterprise "Instrument Design Bureau". Designed for close cover of civilian and military installations (including long-range air defense systems) from all modern and promising air attack weapons. It can also protect the protected object from ground and surface threats.



      Also, pictures were taken of a radar station - a high-altitude detector (VVO) 96L6E designed to detect and measure target coordinates (azimuth, elevation, range), which can be part of S-300PMU, S-300PMU1 and S-300PMU2 air defense systems as an autonomous means target designation SAM 90ZH6E, 90ZH6E1, 90ZH6E2 and interfaced with KP ASU type “Baikal-1E”, “Senezh-M1E” or KP RTV type “Basis-1E”, “Field-E”
    4. -45
      15 March 2014 09: 47
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      And where is the photo of the intercepted drone?

      Why do you upset the urapatriots with such "stupid" questions? You would have asked for more material evidence. laughing
      1. +28
        15 March 2014 09: 59
        Jews, too, already get in Ukraine, so you would have covered your mouth and stopped chewing on everyone and everything!
        1. -48
          15 March 2014 10: 18
          Quote: afire
          Jews, too, already get in Ukraine, so you would have covered your mouth and stopped chewing on everyone and everything!

          Are you talking about the famous "lovers" of the Jewish flesh of the Cossacks? You are right, they came in large numbers there from everywhere.
          PS
          So the photo of the trophies appeared. Green men captured the enemy airplane.
          Hooray comrades. Hooray!!! Hooray!!! Hooray!!!



          PPP
          And the interception video pulled up. But they all do not believe but do not believe. wassat
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            1. Russkiy53
              +11
              15 March 2014 15: 22
              They were kicked out of Egypt for that reason :)))! The pharaohs got tired of a gang of prostitutes, buyers of stolen goods and interest-bearing people :)))!
          2. +5
            15 March 2014 10: 54
            Official refutation of the State Corporation
            Rostec does not confirm information on the facts of using the AvtoBAZ hardware on the territory of the Crimean peninsula
            Official refutation of the State Corporation


            The state corporation Rostec does not officially confirm the information appeared in a number of media about the facts of using the AvtoBAZ technical equipment on the territory of the Crimean peninsula.

            The Corporation is responsible for the quality of the products supplied, but is not responsible for the movement and results of the use of equipment supplied by the Corporation's enterprises on the orders of counterparties.

            The primary source of published information is the Military Explorer Internet portal.

            The responsibility for the correctness, reliability and completeness of the published information lies with the editorial board of Voenniy Obozrevatel.

            Unfortunately ...
            1. +2
              15 March 2014 14: 06
              Quote: me by
              ...
              The primary source of published information is the Military Explorer Internet portal ...

              I don’t know for the rest, but this is just nonsense
          3. +13
            15 March 2014 11: 37
            Quote: professor
            Are you talking about the famous "lovers" of the Jewish flesh of the Cossacks

            I tried you. Not tasty. You can say no kosher ... Grips and pulls overdue ... Or maybe I just do not know how to cook you? ..

            Sincerely ... smile
            1. mamba
              +6
              15 March 2014 12: 11
              Quote: Chicot 1
              Or maybe I just don’t know how to cook you? ..

              In vain garlic was added. laughing
              1. machinetchik_39
                +6
                15 March 2014 14: 03
                and still can not be stewed in sour cream! laughing
            2. -19
              15 March 2014 14: 32
              Quote: Chicot 1
              I tried you.

              Women in a circle, children of the elderly with drafts? According to shitty Cossack traditions? Mayhem so mayhem ...
              1. +11
                15 March 2014 14: 47
                Yarosh and Co. will provide a pogrom for you. According to Bandera customs.
                1. -4
                  15 March 2014 14: 56
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  carelessness

                  Horseradish radish is not sweeter and on Cossack hands no less than Jewish blood. Yes, and not only Jewish. The SS served as a whole Cossack corps, more than 40 thousand people. The size of the Ukrainian rebel army at different times was 25-100 thousand. As you can see, the numbers are comparable. request
                  1. +6
                    15 March 2014 15: 11
                    Quote: professor
                    According to shitty Cossack traditions

                    And you are probably an expert on Cossack traditions and customs? .. If - yes, then maybe enlighten us on this issue ...
                    Quote: professor
                    Horseradish radish is not sweeter and on Cossack hands no less than Jewish blood

                    As well as in Jewish hands there is a lot of Cossack blood ... So, the claims are mutual. So, will we continue this not-so-wonderful discussion further? ..
                    1. -5
                      15 March 2014 15: 22
                      Quote: Chicot 1
                      And you are probably an expert on Cossack traditions and customs? .. If - yes, then maybe enlighten us on this issue ...

                      Do you need to start with Bogdan Khmelnitsky or from the beginning of the 20th century?

                      Quote: Chicot 1
                      As well as in Jewish hands there is a lot of Cossack blood ... So, the claims are mutual.

                      Yah? Jewish cavalrymen with pace and bales burst into the Cossack village and ...

                      Quote: Chicot 1
                      So, will we continue this not-so-wonderful discussion further? ..

                      I didn’t start it. Personally, I'm just trying to find out for myself whether there was a drone ... hi
                      1. +7
                        15 March 2014 15: 36
                        Quote: professor
                        Yah? Jewish cavalrymen with pace and bales burst into the Cossack village and ...


                        No. It was more elegant.
                        Tell you about "decossackization"? Or remember yourself, at the same time those who started it, thereby destroying the people in essence.
                        Yours - it’s like they are being cut for the Holocaust.
                        We had it, namely from the submission of yours, only earlier.
                      2. 0
                        15 March 2014 15: 42
                        Quote: Chen
                        Tell you about "decossackization"? Or remember yourself, at the same time those who started it, thereby destroying the people in essence.
                        Yours - it’s like they are being cut for the Holocaust.
                        We had it, namely from the submission of yours, only earlier.

                        I will quote you a smart person:
                        As for attempts to give a national touch to the civil war in the Don and Kuban regions, even professional historians have long abandoned this ideology. Moreover, the Jews themselves considered revolutionaries - terrorists to be renegades, people who were flawed and dangerous primarily for the Jewish community itself.

                        I’ll add from myself. Do not try to humiliate the great Russian people by passing it off as a herd of sheep which supposedly led a bunch of Jews to revolution.
                        I’m closing the topic, there will be news on the drone, I beg you. hi
                      3. -2
                        15 March 2014 15: 47
                        Quote: professor
                        Do you need to start with Bogdan Khmelnitsky or from the beginning of the 20th century?

                        Start with Sary Azman. It will be more true ...
                        Quote: professor
                        Yah? Jewish cavalrymen with pace and bales burst into the Cossack village and

                        It is not solid for a person who positions himself as an expert on Cossack traditions and customs. And consequently, the history of the Cossacks, too ...
                        Quote: professor
                        I didn’t start it

                        In this and specific case, it is you ...
                        Quote: professor
                        Personally, I'm just trying to find out for myself whether there was a drone

                        It's interesting to me too. But it is also interesting whether the "near-cordon letak" (sort of like an Austrian-made "Diamant") was actually fired on ... And then Serenka Astakhov (director of the Ukrainian border service) did not speak too confidently about this. Usually with such an expression and tone it is banal to lie ...
                      4. roller2
                        0
                        16 March 2014 04: 41
                        Quote: Chicot 1
                        And then Serenka Astakhov (Director of the Ukrainian Border Service)

                        Wow, have you appointed a new director? But the shelling really was, first with a light rifle, and in the last video you can even see how they mocked from the armored personnel carrier.
                  2. Russkiy53
                    +6
                    15 March 2014 15: 25
                    And, after your overseas brothers of Hitler sponsored how much blood is on your hands ???
                  3. WKS
                    +2
                    15 March 2014 17: 12
                    Well, why should the Cossacks be built in vain? My grandfather, the Kuban Cossack, read about the Jews only in the Bible. But the gypsies in the Kuban really could not stand, because they stole the horses.
                  4. +1
                    15 March 2014 21: 34
                    Are you Semit? Or did your ancestors of the Cossacks cut? So the Jews have twice recouped in 1917 and 1991! drinks
                    1. -1
                      15 March 2014 22: 17
                      Quote: oldstaryi
                      So the Jews have twice recouped in 1917 and 1991!

                      Of course, I understand that Superman, Batman and Katzman are Jews and superhumans, but even they are not in sols to ruin such empires either in 1917 or in 1991. wassat
                  5. +1
                    15 March 2014 21: 40
                    Quote: professor
                    The SS served as a whole Cossack corps, more than 40 thousand people. The size of the Ukrainian rebel army at different times was 25-100 thousand. As you can see, the numbers are comparable. request

                    and Jewish bankers, Rockefellers and Rothschilds, sponsored Hitler, who killed Jews.
                    1. -2
                      15 March 2014 22: 19
                      Quote: 0255
                      and Jewish bankers, Rockefellers and Rothschilds, sponsored Hitler, who killed Jews.

                      Learn the materiel. Start by exploring the Rockefeller family tree. There is not a drop of Jewish blood in it. fool
              2. +5
                15 March 2014 15: 23
                Quote: professor
                According to shitty Cossack traditions?

                I thought you were a Jew, but no, I’m just looking at it.
                In Kiev, they began to cut yours.
                Jews- trouble, and you again merge into the gums with the Nazis !!!

                This, where did you, bullshit, saw such Cossack traditions ??
                And they did not like all yours, precisely because of people like you. Such as you are the main enemy of your people.
                1. Russkiy53
                  +3
                  15 March 2014 15: 52
                  They are with the Nazis in the gums since the 39th year :)))!
              3. +1
                15 March 2014 17: 54
                You yourself are a fucked up humanoid, but don’t touch the glorious Cossacks
                1. 0
                  15 March 2014 20: 22
                  Quote: AntonR7
                  You yourself are a fucked up humanoid, but don’t touch the glorious Cossacks

                  I do not touch your glorious Cossacks

              4. +3
                15 March 2014 18: 24
                Go to your place in Judea
                Che are you climbing to us?
          4. +6
            15 March 2014 13: 35
            No wonder the Cossacks are reborn, not in vain.
          5. FRITZ LANG
            +2
            15 March 2014 13: 54
            where did he get skylark-1? I'm talking about a photo
          6. not good
            +2
            15 March 2014 18: 42
            In the photo, this is not our green man, but anti-Semitic laughing
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        3. Magyar
          +18
          15 March 2014 14: 48
          Good day to you. Are you an adult or shkolota? you can explain why you insult a person by emphasizing nationality, read a comment damn it seems that an Urya-patriotic kindergarten has gathered. Did you serve in the Army? .. I can tell you a secret that many Russian special forces currently use drones developed in Israel. Further, as an employee of one of the power structures, I know people of Jewish nationality who serve in the Russian Army, often visit the Caucasus and have military awards, although at one time they could easily move to their historical homeland. By and large, if there are no people like the Professor on the site, the site will lose a lot, I always want to listen to another opinion of one of the most combat-ready and equipped armies in the world. I turn to everyone on the site Guys, why insult opponents and put down cons, thereby pushing people away , forcing you to leave the resource, you always need an alternative opinion, and by and large it is only in a civilized dispute that truth is born, Moderators, and where do you look ??. Now, in essence, I have big doubts about the fit of this product. The first and most important thing, if the interception had been carried out, no one would have known about this for a very long period of time, and probably would not have known at all why to reveal the capabilities of electronic warfare equipment, especially if after this event, an extra product is possible not when it doesn’t interfere . Second, do not consider the opposite side as stupid, we are confronted by one of the most powerful armies in the world, that is, the United States, with its many years of experience in the production and operation of unmanned aerial systems, and this possibility is probably taken into account there. And the last thing, why use a medium-range product when there are more advanced drones in the arsenal of the United States. In general, we draw conclusions, but do not shout urry.
          1. Russkiy53
            +5
            15 March 2014 15: 30
            All his opinion is poisonous sarcasm ... that’s paraffinized :)))! Although, purely from a technical point of view, it’s quite competent ...
          2. +2
            15 March 2014 15: 30
            Quote: Magyar
            I appeal to everyone on the site Guys, why insult opponents


            Look - who first started.
            This one does not need any protection. And in yours. Seven dogs will be repelled.
      2. +9
        15 March 2014 10: 52
        It is not worth it to reflect on the presence / absence of material evidence in a disassembly alien to you.
        After all, you do have iron, irrefutable "material evidence" of the interception of "Hetsom-2" ballistic simulators in the Mediterranean last fall?
      3. +3
        15 March 2014 11: 27
        Quote: professor
        Why do you upset the urapatriots with such "stupid" questions? You would have asked for more material evidence.
        And why be shy, just alas - landing on the expanse of the Black Sea was not entirely successful ....
      4. +5
        15 March 2014 11: 45
        And what, for the parrots - a patriot - a curse?
        1. +7
          15 March 2014 13: 37
          The phrase "Russian patriot" is really a curse for them. And not only for them.
      5. +7
        15 March 2014 14: 12
        Quote: professor
        Why do you upset the urapatriots with such "stupid" questions? You would have asked for more material evidence.

        Hmm, I had a better opinion about your intellectual abilities. Urapatriotism is certainly not the best manifestation of patriotism, but your rejection is the opposite side of the same phenomenon, and from the negative side of the scale. You dishonor the famous Jewish discretion and pragmatism.
        1. -3
          15 March 2014 14: 36
          Quote: velikoros-xnumx
          You dishonor the famous Jewish discretion and pragmatism.

          I do not represent here "Jewish prudence and pragmatism" and in general I do not represent Jewishness. I speak solely on my own behalf and very (WELL VERY) want to take a look at the wreckage of the bourgeois drone. Isn't this the drone that the young aviators chased near Ulyanovsk (just kidding)? wink
          1. +7
            15 March 2014 15: 42
            Quote: professor
            Quote: velikoros-xnumx
            You dishonor the famous Jewish discretion and pragmatism.

            I do not represent here "Jewish prudence and pragmatism" and in general I do not represent Jewishness. I speak solely on my own behalf and very (WELL VERY) want to take a look at the wreckage of the bourgeois drone. Isn't this the drone that the young aviators chased near Ulyanovsk (just kidding)? wink

            Now I’m not talking about this particular case. They didn’t plant us for sure, none of us know for certain. The thing is different, namely, that you systematically deny even any possibility of carrying out any high-tech operation by our military and our equipment. at least this is not objective, at most it is the deliberate discrediting of our armed forces.
            1. 0
              15 March 2014 15: 46
              Quote: velikoros-xnumx
              The point is different, namely, that you systematically deny even any possibility that our military and our equipment would carry out any more or less high-tech operation. at least this is not objective, at most it is the deliberate discrediting of our armed forces.

              You are like little children. The bourgeois also cannot "intercept" the drone or jam it if it uses broadband closed communication channels, and even with an antenna with a controlled directional pattern. It's all right? There are no yours and ours, there is physics !!!
              1. +2
                15 March 2014 20: 19
                Quote: professor
                Quote: velikoros-xnumx
                The point is different, namely, that you systematically deny even any possibility that our military and our equipment would carry out any more or less high-tech operation. at least this is not objective, at most it is the deliberate discrediting of our armed forces.

                You are like little children. The bourgeois also cannot "intercept" the drone or drown it if it uses a broadband closed communication channel, and even with an antenna with a controlled directional pattern. It's all right? There are no yours and ours, there is physics !!!

                Professor I emphasize again I'm not talking about this case specifically... You cannot judge so one-sidedly. Regarding "physics", yes, in the processes you describe, I am an amateur and I have, at best, the most general ideas, but you cannot be 100% sure, "there is no smoke without fire." I remember there were times when serious engineers and physicists with foam at the mouth, they proved that devices heavier than air cannot fly. Or the more "recent" case with Einstein and his theory of relativity (by the way, if my memory serves me mathematically, Lorentz was the first to find time dilation, but did not attach any importance to it, 'considering it a purely mathematical calculation). Nobody at first took Einstein's theory seriously, but time (time in this context it sounds especially ironic) put everything in its place. All the examples given are also physics.
          2. Russkiy53
            +1
            15 March 2014 15: 54
            We know one ... from near Ulyanovsk :)))! The most famous of yours ... we still cannot bury :)))!
    5. +9
      15 March 2014 11: 11
      Well, as we all managed to notice, in Russia no one has been in a hurry lately: neither the Russian people join the universal tolerant homosexual, neither Putin marries, nor polite people storm the impregnable Ukrainian military strongholds.
      A terrible thing - and the photos are not in a hurry either.
      On the other hand, are you and I not in Banderstadt any where they publish online a photo of a chained governor who is watered with water?
    6. 0
      15 March 2014 11: 14
      There is a video capturing this drone. Our military tried there, if anyone can insert a video here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-o2Q8JwDMU
      1. Kuzkin Batyan
        +3
        15 March 2014 11: 54
        If it were a real drone, and not a reconnaissance aircraft manned by people. Do not pop your hat.
    7. +1
      15 March 2014 15: 47
      What normal intelligence will show off trophies. Everything has its time, they first examine it, then it can be shown.
    8. GROOZD
      0
      15 March 2014 16: 29
      We need to plant everything, and then all sorts of fly here!
    9. 0
      15 March 2014 17: 01
      Mr. Tarasov, what do you think, if there were photographs, would you not show them? I think they would show 100%. This is such a fact.
      I personally am inclined to think that this information looks like that. As if the flag of the Ukrainian Navy allegedly raised the Andreevsky flag. But it turned out to be a simple misinformation.
      Until they show the BLAA on TV or at least pictures, one cannot believe in this.
    10. 0
      16 March 2014 00: 15
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      And where is the photo of the intercepted drone?

      Found a laid out aerial video recording.
      Visible tents, military equipment, military personnel.

      Some say that this video is from a downed American drone.
      Others - that this is a plane of Ukrainian border guards, which the Russian military fired at in the area of ​​Armyansk.
      Here's the video: decide for yourself what it is and where it comes from.
      In the lower right corner, the date and time are displayed.

    11. 0
      16 March 2014 00: 25
      It was intercepted by the 1L222 Avtobaza Russian electronic warfare (EW) complex and almost intact to the self-defense forces. Avtobaza severed the UAV's connection with its American operators, after which the aircraft made an emergency landing.

      Any modern UAV (if it is not rubbish of the 80s) in case of a communication failure with the control center (let's say this) - returns to the launch or home coordinates, no "emergency landing" by the program not provided in principle. lol

      Even if it is damaged by firing after a (hypothetical) violation of the communication channel - the program, having calculated the impossibility of leaving the "unfriendly zone", will enter the UAV into a dive in order to hit the ground harder (so that the enemy would get little), electronic nodes, so that the benefits of such a "trophy" - a dozen kg of non-ferrous metal. laughing


  2. +17
    15 March 2014 06: 55
    Well done. It’s a pity that the drone is not a battle one, otherwise it’s possible to deploy and shun it from the owners.
    1. +9
      15 March 2014 07: 01
      On the contrary ... Now the specialists will work and they will not risk flying anymore ... The control and communication system will be known. And the shock UAVs can also destroy ZSUShki ...
      1. +10
        15 March 2014 09: 19
        Now the specialists will work and they will not risk flying anymore ... The control and communication system will be known


        Once they took away the "toy from the kids", then the communication and control system is already known wink
      2. Russkiy53
        +1
        15 March 2014 15: 33
        Do not shoot down: (...
    2. +8
      15 March 2014 07: 09
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      . It's a pity the drone is not fighting,

      Sergei, well, even in the title of the news "Crimeans intercepted an American shock drone "hello!
      1. +1
        15 March 2014 13: 23
        Quote: Tersky
        Sergei, well, even in the title of the news "Crimeans intercepted an American attack drone", hello!


        Hi, apparently it’s still not a combat drone, and it’s not important, the main thing is that the mattress is prosRa. And your drone is out of the blue.
      2. 0
        15 March 2014 13: 23
        Quote: Tersky
        Sergei, well, even in the title of the news "Crimeans intercepted an American attack drone", hello!


        Hi, apparently it’s still not a combat drone, and it’s not important, the main thing is that the mattress is prosRa. And your drone is out of the blue.
    3. +7
      15 March 2014 07: 20
      "It's not evening yet," they will. That will be a laugh. His drone has gone crazy, and is beating at his own. wassat
      1. +2
        15 March 2014 10: 19
        Quote: Simon
        "It's not evening yet," they will. That will be a laugh. His drone has gone crazy, and is beating at his own.

        Why are you laughing, because there are Chinese components there, you can see our manaman in full! lol
  3. +17
    15 March 2014 06: 56
    here is the class! now our specialists will gut the drone, and we will know how to "drop" them laughing
    1. +31
      15 March 2014 07: 02
      Let it not be said then that we are stealing from their technology, the technology itself has flown to us laughing
      1. +2
        15 March 2014 14: 22
        Quote: ZU-23
        Let it not be said then that we are stealing from their technology, the technology itself has flown to us laughing

        a little old, with a new bzdat climb due to the name of the article
        1. Russkiy53
          +1
          15 March 2014 15: 35
          Novye, just worth the money ... crisis, :)))!
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  4. +10
    15 March 2014 06: 57
    Great gift for international observers. laughing
    You can’t shut up like that. So is he reconnaissance or percussion?
  5. +12
    15 March 2014 06: 59
    A trifle, it is nice. Continuation as once in August 2008, four Hammers with the latest electronic communications from the proud Georgians captured.
    1. +2
      15 March 2014 10: 03
      Quote: Edward72
      proud Georgians.

      Sounds like a boring Moses man! Although the Georgians themselves, normal people.
    2. +4
      15 March 2014 12: 01
      The words of the great poet: "... timid Georgians fled ...". Only their gangsters can rob stalls and shops at night, and the brave commandos shoot in the back, and even then, if 20 against one. soldier
    3. brownie
      +3
      15 March 2014 12: 16
      Quote: Edward72
      A trifle, it is nice. Continuation as once in August 2008, four Hammers with the latest electronic communications from the proud Georgians captured.

      And someone said that there would be no normal trophies, just junk. laughing
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  7. +10
    15 March 2014 06: 59
    More drones, good and different. Thanks USA. Iran attacked them like mushrooms. We need the same thing .. nonsense.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +3
      15 March 2014 07: 36
      Quote: 528Obrp
      We need the same ..idiots.

      It is a who are you talking about put it Explain.
      1. +3
        15 March 2014 07: 44
        about the mess of Obamych and Co.
  8. raf
    +5
    15 March 2014 07: 01
    So they would write: "Russian forces of electronic warfare ...."! Although no, there are no ours! These are "little green men" or "polite people with guns"! laughing
    1. +4
      15 March 2014 07: 13
      Quote: raf
      "little green men"

      Yeah, "green technologies" laughing
      1. Russkiy53
        +2
        15 March 2014 15: 36
        Green hydroponics: D ....
    2. +11
      15 March 2014 09: 17
      Quote: raf
      So they would write: "Russian forces of electronic warfare ...."! Although no, there are no ours!

      Yes, what little people! what Russian forces! Just the Ukrainian army began the exercises! Yes Yes! Turchinov personally said !!!
      "Military exercises have begun in Ukraine. The Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine is mobilizing all available resources to provide the army, to protect the country, despite the economic problems," said the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, Acting President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov after a visit on Friday, March 14, complex tactical exercises of the Ground Forces, according to the press service of VO Batkivshchyna. Talking to journalists, Turchynov noted that the Ukrainian army is ready to defend the country. He said that in view of the fact that the Russian Federation had sent troops to Crimea and concentrated military units along the Ukrainian borders, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are on full alert.
      In Ukraine, according to him, the exercises have begun, which test the readiness of military units. Turchinov also noted that, despite the problems in the economy, the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine will mobilize all available resources to provide the army and protect the country. He thanked the military, who fulfill their duty in difficult conditions and are ready to defend the state. " In the army fighting spirit "- said the head of parliament. Speaking of today's teachings, and. about. President of Ukraine said what happened “Real exercises, where tank and airmobile units, artillery worked, technical interaction was perfected ».

      And everything happens during the exercises! We are not used to it! Either a rocket is pulled into the house, or a plane is accidentally shot down !!!! So do not get on! This is the Ukrainian army began exercises !!!! laughing
      1. +2
        15 March 2014 09: 34
        Well, I do not! This is our horse! (from the cartoon) smile
      2. brownie
        +19
        15 March 2014 12: 30
        And everything happens during the exercises! We are not used to it! Either a rocket is pulled into the house, or a plane is accidentally shot down !!!! So do not get on! This is the Ukrainian army began exercises !!!!
        And complement. Almost a week to that in the Nikolaev area reservists were called up and placed on the territory of 79 airmobile brigade. L / s 79 brigade is now almost all located in the area of ​​Chongar Isthmus. Reservists with grief in half changed into what they found. They removed the equipment from storage. Now they are preparing for firing at the Shirokolanovsky firing range. From a conversation with a cousin, a man very far from military subjects, I realized that 152 mm was removed from storage. howitzers. Brother in one of the calculations appointed gunner! belay, although he urgently served in the district fuel and lubricants warehouse. If there are knowledgeable people, then enlighten, please, for how much you can prepare an average gunner in the absence of initial skills and a high degree of student indifference.
        I am beginning to fear the Ukrainian army more than "monsters-occupiers"
        1. +6
          15 March 2014 13: 43
          Quote: little house
          I am beginning to fear the Ukrainian army more than the "monsters-occupiers

          Apparently they will teach the simplest, Expand the barrel in the right direction and give the angle of fire by eye, the question is where to get it. hi
        2. +2
          15 March 2014 21: 42
          Six months in the Soviet school of sergeants! drinks
      3. +1
        15 March 2014 17: 23
        It was such a Tu-154 that was shot down at one time .. the truth was later smeared that their plane could not shoot down the air-to-air rocket.
  9. +13
    15 March 2014 07: 01
    Haha, and they rams thought that it was Pakistan and you can fly and do whatever you please, Bravo Crimea good
    1. +6
      15 March 2014 09: 28
      It was not bad to go to Pakistan - to replenish the collection. (Tapa display drones - inexpensive, fast, high-quality)
  10. +3
    15 March 2014 07: 01
    Amerikosy have lost a lot of money! We have acquired and will continue further, their
    copy, but already with our know-how.
  11. +40
    15 March 2014 07: 03
    ... in the CIS approximately, tuyeva heap of offended soldiers, still the USSR! Our oath is still valid. And we are 40+ years old. Who do you climb on. Respect for another UAV.
    1. +13
      15 March 2014 10: 32
      Our oath is still valid. And we are 40+ years old. Who do you climb on. Respect for another UAV.


      Suppose we are in different CIS countries, but we remain faithful to our oath! The oath is taken once! We gave it to the people of the USSR and all the CIS is the USSR !!
      1. +7
        15 March 2014 13: 35
        These are the words of the husbands!
        An oath to the Soviet People and a kneeling before the Red Ensign is for life, for every Slav ..
        When the Slavs have red flags, they are invincible and society develops ....
        When the colors of the lower and upper Nile (Masonic colors)) die like a frog in slowly warming milk, under the mantra "the little rose rises from his knees"))))
        Let us recall Peter | who brought him from Holland and drove people into serfdom ....
        and so on))))
        At my place, a red ensign and I knew that it would do, I kept the USSR Passport, I was already debugging the scan in VO)))
        1. +4
          15 March 2014 18: 51
          Quote: Asgard
          These are the words of the husbands!
          An oath to the Soviet People and a kneeling before the Red Ensign is for life, for every Slav ..
          When the Slavs have red flags, they are invincible and society develops ....
          When the colors of the lower and upper Nile (Masonic colors)) die like a frog in slowly warming milk, under the mantra "the little rose rises from his knees"))))
          Let us recall Peter | who brought him from Holland and drove people into serfdom ....
          and so on))))
          At my place, a red ensign and I knew that it would do, I kept the USSR Passport, I was already debugging the scan in VO)))

          you know how you Volodya, with a verb to burn the hearts of people! hi
  12. +6
    15 March 2014 07: 13
    Well, the hostilities have already begun and the Crimeans defeated them, the first losses were suffered by the Americans. Congratulations to the Crimeans ..!
    1. +17
      15 March 2014 09: 24
      Quote: Simon
      Congratulations to the Crimeans ..!

      And you can congratulate !!!!

      The coat of arms of Ukraine was removed from the facade of the building of the Supreme Council of Crimea
      In Simferopol, on the side of the main entrance to the building of the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, where the state and Crimean symbols were located on the central facade, the emblem of Ukraine, the trident, was removed. Currently, there is only the coat of arms of the ARC, in front of which they hung a large Russian flag - a gift from the delegation of the Vladimir region of the Russian Federation. Chairman of the Permanent Commission on the Sanatorium-Resort Complex, Tourism and Entrepreneurship, Alexei Chernyak, said that a large flagpole would be built in Simferopol, symbolizing the fraternal relationship of Crimea with Russia. Subsequently, the presented flag will be hoisted on this flagpole.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-141125.html
  13. +4
    15 March 2014 07: 19
    A little overdone .... side effects?
    http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/859397/

    Russian space satellites attacked from the territory of Western Ukraine
  14. +7
    15 March 2014 07: 21
    The Americans will not quit until they get the teeth. Well done self-defense forces, they have a good fleet.
  15. +5
    15 March 2014 07: 22
    Well done !!! Once the electronic warfare systems have appeared, it means they are well prepared. So "So we will win!"
    Huseinovich! Your guys in uniform and your paid "Kiev impostors" know how to bring at least something to the end, to its logical conclusion.
    1. +1
      15 March 2014 12: 36
      Quote: staryivoin
      Well done !!! Since electronic warfare systems have appeared, it means they are well prepared.

      Last year, several new EW stations were transferred to the troops. Interestingly, at least something new is in the Crimea now?
      1. +3
        15 March 2014 13: 55
        Quote: Russ69
        Last year, several new EW stations were transferred to the troops. Interestingly, at least something new is in the Crimea now?


        In Crimea, only self-defense forces, be patient before, after the referendum ... wink
      2. Russkiy53
        +1
        15 March 2014 15: 38
        Interestingly, there is in the troops, someone to work for them :))) ???
  16. +23
    15 March 2014 07: 22
    Alexgs :... in the CIS approximately, tuyeva heap of offended soldiers, still the USSR!
    A bit wrong: not offended, but, rather, angry at the mattress with his comrades. I'm 40+ too. And the photo, if the news is reliable, will not be shown, the device is already in some closed "clinic on experiments".
    1. brownie
      +7
      15 March 2014 12: 34
      A little bit wrong: not offended, but rather, pissed off at the mattress from a comrade. I am also from 40+.
      There are those among those from 30+ and even younger. Although they did not serve in the Soviet Army.
  17. sanek0207
    +5
    15 March 2014 07: 23
    And the TRUTH WHAT THIS STAGE THERE WAS PORCHALED THERE FOR? IS THIS US AREA !? THEY SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY CONFUSED, WHICH ARE SCANED. TEAMS, UAVS AND OTHER Crap! CAPTURE THESE ISSUES AND DISAPPOINTING MISSIONS TO GO, OUR KULIBINS OF THEM ARE REDIRECTED!
    1. Russkiy53
      +1
      15 March 2014 15: 57
      In this world, the all-territory of the United States ... with ... decree!
  18. +6
    15 March 2014 07: 25
    Let Shilki and Tunguski explain in Russian.
  19. +3
    15 March 2014 07: 26
    Quote: siberalt
    So is he reconnaissance or percussion?

    It seems to read that reconnaissance and strike.
    "... an MQ-5B reconnaissance and strike drone was intercepted, which, judging by the side markings, was part of the grouping of the 66th American military intelligence brigade ..."
  20. +7
    15 March 2014 07: 27
    You know, here it’s joyful to read all the messages, there is an increase in the combat readiness of the country. But, but something needs to be done with this damned fifth column of traitors. Agree, it's horrible how they raised just an uprising on the ship! These liberal hacks are just for the Maidan, for The Bandera Nazis are ready to give their lives. These are Shenderovich, Makarevich, Ganapol and other rams, well, there’s simply no strength. The country is at war, and traitors are shooting at her. Let’s somehow resist them, destroy them, I don’t know what something to do ...
  21. Nikola73
    +3
    15 March 2014 07: 28
    As soon as they become part of Russia, drones will no longer be there.
  22. +4
    15 March 2014 07: 29
    The fact that amerokos are ready for all sorts of dirty tricks I have no doubt about this, but I would certainly like to hear an official statement with some kind of photo or video
  23. +4
    15 March 2014 07: 41
    It remains 16-letting him fly! laughing
    1. +2
      15 March 2014 08: 53
      No, let them also send them, one for "experiments" may not be enough.
  24. +3
    15 March 2014 07: 43
    Such news as balm for the soul. drinks
  25. vietnam7
    +4
    15 March 2014 07: 48
    Another reason to think for "specialists" shouting on the site that we are behind, that we need to poke drones everywhere and everywhere.
  26. s1н7т
    +4
    15 March 2014 07: 49
    This news has been around for a day, and so far no one has given a legal assessment of the location of the 66th brigade of the US Armed Forces in Ukraine - duck, hey?
  27. ed65b
    +5
    15 March 2014 07: 52
    but I do not believe. There are no photos or videos. Only words. And if that were so, Lavrov would have said that a long time ago.
  28. MAMMOTH
    +2
    15 March 2014 07: 52
    Preparations for military action are in full swing, I think that in the event of an armed conflict, Russia will still surprise us and the whole world. wassat
  29. +9
    15 March 2014 07: 53
    Our Israeli friends, by the way on the pages of VO, convinced us that it was impossible to take control of a drone. Especially for us, Lapotnikov)))
    It is interesting to listen to what they say now.
    Au Pimple Where are you?
    Remember what I told you about our national identity.
    We will surprise everyone more than once.
    1. brownie
      +2
      15 March 2014 12: 37
      Our Israeli friends, by the way on the pages of VO, convinced us that it was impossible to take control of a drone. Especially for us, Lapotnikov)))
      It is impossible to put pants over your head and sleep on the ceiling, the blanket falls. laughing
    2. 0
      16 March 2014 19: 18
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      It is interesting to listen to what they say now.

      Nothing, it makes no sense to comment on technical ignorance. request Where is at least one photo of the "intercepted" device? laughing

      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      Remember what I told you about our national identity.

      Are you talking about a non-standard approach to the situation and ingenuity? lol I do not want to disappoint, but some will give you a head start in this. wink
  30. +2
    15 March 2014 07: 55
    But why didn’t they tell where the UAV accidentally landed or splashed and why it wasn’t shot down, or is it not our territory yet?
  31. +2
    15 March 2014 07: 57
    News from Internet battles on YouTube: I watched a video called "Crimea, what future do you choose" or something like that, well, actually there is such nonsense, and one guy says that there should be no troops near the border of Russia with Ukraine, but he it would be better if he lived in Nazi Germany and fought for foshysthen than to live in the USSR
  32. +3
    15 March 2014 08: 02
    Bourgeois press:
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/14/russia-claims-have-downed-us-dro

    ne-over-crimea-reg /

    A Russian state arms and technology group claimed Friday to have downed a US surveillance drone over Ukraine's Crimea region, Agence France Presse reported.

    “The drone was flying at about 12,000 feet and was virtually invisible from the ground. It was possible to break the link with US operators with complex radio-electronic ”technology, Moscow-based company Rostec said in a statement.


    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Russian-group-intercepts-US-dron

    e-over-Crimea / articleshow / 32043428.cms

    Russian group 'intercepts' US drone over Crimea

    MOSCOW: A United States surveillance drone has been intercepted above the Ukrainian region of Crimea, a Russian state arms and technology group said.



    Where are the debris? In the right place:

    Its fragments were delivered to the research center of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

    http://jankoy.org.ua/nad-krymom-perehvachen-bespilotnik/
  33. +4
    15 March 2014 08: 04
    <<< Crimeans intercepted an American attack drone >>>
    Olympiad Olympiad, and who we have to do business - prepared "self-defense" of the Crimea to receive top-secret hyped American drones! So know OURS, they, too, "do not slurp cabbage soup"!
  34. +11
    15 March 2014 08: 06
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    It remains 16-letting him fly!


    Anecdote:

    End of the working day. A phone call is heard in the Velo-Moto store:
    - Hello! Hello! It bothers you from the morgue. Tell me how many motorcycles you sold today?
    - Seven pieces ... But what?
    - your mother! It’s time to go home already, and two are still skating somewhere else !!!
  35. +5
    15 March 2014 08: 12
    Our handsome men! Let them not think that we only have a sweatshirt and PPSh.
    1. +5
      15 March 2014 08: 39
      C'mon!
      He was covered with a sweatshirt and shot at point-blank range from the PPSh.
      No one even noticed.
      soldier
      1. -1
        15 March 2014 21: 49
        PPSh - Forever!
  36. 0
    15 March 2014 08: 40
    Hmm, like this news was posted by Interfax and Forbes ... Honestly, I doubt that this is true. Too ridiculous it all looks. Maybe they just came up with all this to boost morale. Judging by the forum, this works great. And I will wait for photos and videos.
  37. +2
    15 March 2014 08: 41
    Underestimation and overestimation of the enemy are fraught with consequences, have you lost your way or confused the primordially Russian Crimea with Afgan and Pakistan? do not shout about the Russian air defense, remember the former air defense units of Ukraine, who have sworn allegiance to the Government and the people of Crimea!
  38. +1
    15 March 2014 08: 45
    It is necessary to demonstrate it, intact and safe with all identification and other signs, at an extraordinary meeting of the UN Security Council with the question: "What is the thing doing there?" And of course, demonstrate to the public through all possible media channels.
  39. +3
    15 March 2014 08: 51
    Here's what was recently relayed:
    MOSCOW, March 15. / ITAR-TASS /. The Ministry of Communications said that in relation to Russian television space satellites from the territory in western Ukraine, an attempt was made to use electronic warfare.
    The ministry noted that "people who make such decisions should think about the consequences."

    Someone can expertly comment?
    1. +4
      15 March 2014 09: 06
      Quote: retired
      The Ministry of Communications said that in relation to Russian television space satellites from the territory in western Ukraine, an attempt was made to use electronic warfare.

      Side effects of the Carpool. It seems to me.
    2. +6
      15 March 2014 10: 03
      Rather, interference was exerted on receivers of a satellite television signal in local zones. Since the plates are oriented to the south, it is likely to use electronic warfare from ships of NATO countries in the Black Sea.
      1. +1
        15 March 2014 10: 14
        You can of course work on the satellite receiver, but then there would be problems with broadcasting in the entire service area, including in Russia.
  40. +6
    15 March 2014 08: 52
    Crimean leisure club young radio engineer works well
  41. +6
    15 March 2014 08: 56
    Still, these were forced to land!
    1. +2
      15 March 2014 08: 59
      This for lunch
      1. +4
        15 March 2014 09: 00
        And it would be pretty good!
        1. +10
          15 March 2014 09: 20
          but the Americans drunk such a drone themselves for so long ago))) they couldn’t land a conservative on the deck and he drowned, taking millions of US dollars to the bottom of the ocean)))
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  42. +6
    15 March 2014 08: 58
    Now it’s clear why some so scare the S-300 in Syria.
  43. +3
    15 March 2014 09: 08
    Even in an aircraft model, when the connection is lost, is there such a feature as a return to the base, and then landing, and this is a military device?
    1. +13
      15 March 2014 09: 21
      and he now has a base - it's Crimea))))))) you can see drones can also go to the enemy side))) Traitor drone)))) sold for a barrel of jam and a box of cookies))))
      1. +5
        15 March 2014 13: 36
        No, you are wrong with drones jam and cookies on the side ... he sold for fuel and batteries wassat
  44. calocha
    +2
    15 March 2014 09: 10
    Well done! KEEP IT UP!!!
  45. +5
    15 March 2014 09: 23
    Quote: calocha
    Even in an aircraft model, when the connection is lost, is there such a feature as a return to the base, and then landing, and this is a military device?


    Not so easy. The device does not know where it is. The carpool drowned out all the channels of service information (including time).

    Rostec not confirms use of the "Autobaza" system on the territory of Crimea
    . But also does not refute!!! Further, the most interesting:
    Rosteh not responsible for the movement and results of the use of sold equipment.
    We are on the side !!! laughing
    And this we have more than once heard, and then have seen in Iran !!!
    Pentagon spokeswoman Eileen Lines said that these reports are untrue.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/rolling_news/2014/03/140314_rn_pentagon_drone.shtml
    1. 0
      16 March 2014 19: 35
      Quote: 528Obrp
      Not so easy. The device does not know where it is.

      Have you heard of such a thing as "inertial navigation"? laughing

      Quote: 528Obrp
      And we already heard this more than once, and then saw it in Iran !!!

      We saw a fiberglass layout WITHOUT A SINGLE SEAM OR JOINT! laughing
      February 24 2013
      The Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps clarified that the drone, the interception of which was announced earlier, is "hypothetical."
      Clarification of the "hypothetical" nature of the downed aircraft appeared in later reports by the official Iranian agency Fars.
  46. +12
    15 March 2014 09: 27
    TTX of the deserter drone :)))
    MQ 5B aka "HUNTER" or HUNTER, whoever likes it) Hunter is equipped with two engines, and the fuel tanks are located in the center section of the wing. Avionics compartments are also located here, and weapons suspension units are located on the inside under the wing. The first generation RQ-5 drones have been adopted by the Armed Forces of Belgium, France and the Philippines. ???? carries two planning high-precision bombs Viper Strike, Hunter has successfully used such ammunition in Afghanistan - especially effectively the combination of Hunter and Viper Strike worked in narrow mountain gorges ... Invented in the Cutoff in the 90th year for the US Army ..... M is its a modified sample ..
  47. +3
    15 March 2014 09: 29
    in 2008, the military of the Russian Federation received a lot of interesting information from the Hunter fillings due to the breadth of the soul of the generous generous Srakakashville ... now there’s a present - the filling of the US drone)))
    1. stillrat
      +4
      15 March 2014 11: 53
      Yes, there is not any "miracle of technology". Unless the system of identification of friend or foe, everything else can be bought on the free market!
  48. 0
    15 March 2014 09: 37
    Pentagon spokeswoman Eileen Lines said that these reports are untrue.

    Earlier, Russian agencies reported the interception of the American drone MQ-5B, which allegedly was part of the 66th American military intelligence brigade with a main location in Bavaria, and which was transferred to Ukrainian Kirovograd.

    The agencies referred to the Rostec company, whose Avtobaza system allegedly helped to intercept the plane.

    Later, Rostec said it did not confirm the use of the Avtobaza system in Crimea. The company's website also noted that Rostec is not responsible for the movement and results of using the sold equipment.
  49. +6
    15 March 2014 09: 38
    I wonder where it was launched from, because its radius of action is 260 km ... this is Kherson, Nikloaevsk, Odessa or Zaporozhsk regions ... definitely not "near Kirovograd" there is a greater distance ...
  50. W1950
    0
    15 March 2014 09: 42
    Landing 16 more drones and the 66th American reconnaissance brigade can be scrapped.
  51. 0
    15 March 2014 09: 44
    If true, then a question arises. Or maybe Harpoons and Tomahawks can be intercepted, without landing them, of course, but sending them back? That would be funny.
  52. 0
    15 March 2014 09: 46
    Quote: 528Obrp
    Not so easy. The device does not know where it is. The carpool drowned out all the channels of service information (including time).

    what nonsense, how should I know, the GPS track should be written, the inertial should be used as a backup, this is a military device
    1. +3
      15 March 2014 12: 36
      Quote: saag
      the inertial should be used as a backup

      So it is, but there are nuances. For example, exact time stamps. In addition, radio altimeters and directional locators, etc. The system takes all this as a failure. And then everything depends on the self-destruction algorithm. Fly home to smash the base to pieces?
  53. +2
    15 March 2014 09: 49
    Quote: 528Obrp
    More drones, good and different. Thanks USA. Iran attacked them like mushrooms. We need the same thing .. nonsense.

    And thanks again to the USA, if they hadn’t stirred up the mess in Ukraine, there wouldn’t be OUR CRIMEA today, like idiots.
  54. 0
    15 March 2014 09: 51
    With respect to Russian space satellites from the territory of western Ukraine, an attempt to use electronic warfare systems has been recorded. It is reported by the Ministry of Communications of Russia.

    The ministry noted that "people who make such decisions should think about the consequences."

    No further details are provided.
  55. Leshka
    0
    15 March 2014 09: 53
    already the first trophies good
  56. +1
    15 March 2014 10: 05
    Ill-mannered people do not know that it is indecent to peek through a keyhole.
  57. de bouillon
    +1
    15 March 2014 11: 20
    stop feeding nonsense

    what a drone. Do you seriously believe this? The United States has no right or reason to station its armed forces in Ukraine. So let the author calm down and stop spreading misinformation.

    if the UAV had actually been shot down, there would have been such hysteria.
    1. sspd
      0
      15 March 2014 11: 30
      Hm. Not yet evening?
    2. +6
      15 March 2014 12: 17
      The USA has no right and no reason
      And has that ever stopped them?
    3. brownie
      +2
      15 March 2014 12: 40
      The United States has no right or reason to station its armed forces in Ukraine.
      And has that ever stopped them? belay
    4. +1
      15 March 2014 12: 47
      Quote: de Bouillon
      So let the author calm down and stop spreading misinformation.


      This information was officially on the Rostec website. Then it was not replaced confirmation, but not refutation. In addition, the following phrase appeared
      The Corporation is responsible for the quality of the products supplied, but not bears responsibility for the movement and results of using equipment supplied by the Corporation's enterprises on orders from contractors.


      As for drone flights, this is not Russian territory (yet) and from the point of view of laws, the use of UAVs is possible at the request of Ukraine. We can’t shoot them straight either. Hence the silence. Let's wait and see if it's a duck or not.
  58. +2
    15 March 2014 11: 30
    It's nice that we have such equipment
  59. stillrat
    0
    15 March 2014 11: 48
    as needed to be proven, the Americans have become accustomed to fighting the Papuans in recent years and are a little unprepared for a modern high-tech war bully
    PS If, of course, it’s true about drones.
  60. 0
    15 March 2014 11: 48
    What a useful invention - "Autobase"!

    Tell me, please, can it land an invisible plane?
    1. +3
      15 March 2014 13: 12
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Tell me, please, can it land an invisible plane?

      Much more likely than Serdyukova laughing
    2. +1
      15 March 2014 13: 43
      To land an invisible plane, you don’t have to use the Autobase, just one MiGar or Drying wassat
  61. 0
    15 March 2014 11: 53
    Russia is not Iraq and Libya! US airplanes will fall like peas......
  62. +1
    15 March 2014 12: 25
    Even drones “run away” from such owners...
  63. 0
    15 March 2014 12: 41
    The NATO occupiers are already on the Crimean isthmus... one cannot hear the groans of the liberal Geyropa about violating borders.
  64. +1
    15 March 2014 12: 45
    Earlier, another similar one was shot down with small arms. In total, 66 MQ-8B drones remained in the 5th reconnaissance brigade. It’s not a fact that all of them are on the territory of Ukraine, but 2-3 more are possible. Most likely, there will be no more reconnaissance flights of American plywood over Perekop. Either they will stop, because today is the 15th, and there is no need anymore, or they will switch to a satellite constellation.

    Anything can be planted. It’s a question of specific technology, that is, a meaningful sequence of certain actions. It depends entirely on qualifications. Contacted the best - die like everyone else.
  65. 0
    15 March 2014 12: 48
    They would launch them all faster... Yes, how stupid people can be. After all, they don’t have a single chance, but they climb. Just like the Chinese in Damansky in 1969....
  66. 0
    15 March 2014 13: 51
    Strange name - "Avtobaza". Although, the main thing is that it works)
  67. unnameddd
    +2
    15 March 2014 14: 09
    HUNTER (MQ-5B)
    Purpose: high-precision reconnaissance, surveillance and target detection, assessment of combat damage, collection of classified information by intercepting signals and messages Manufacturer and country: Northrop Grumman Corporation, USA Engine: Northrop Grumman - APL 55hp JP-S (HFE) 3-cylinder piston , 880cc. Dimensions: Length - 7,01 m, Height - 2,16 m, Wingspan - 10,44 m Weight: Empty weight - 659 kg, max. take-off weight - 886 kg, max. payload weight - 226,8 kg (fuel and payload) Performance: Speed ​​- 220 km/h, flight duration - 21,3 hours (with electro-optics/infrared camera), maximum altitude - 5485 m, mission radius - 250 km, speed range - 110 -150km/h Payload: More than 39 payloads for the Ministry of Defense, including signals intelligence, signals intelligence. Receivers and jammers for reconnaissance communications. Detection Sensors NBC, Synthetic Aperture Radar/MTI, Ammunition Data Link: Line of View (C-Band, Ku-Band or as per customer request) Control/Tracking System: GPS and LN-251 Inertial Navigation Takeoff: Automatic Takeoff Landing: Automatic landing Structural material: Composite Power: 3kW for payloads Status: in production.

    Please note that the mission radius of this drone is only 250 km, and from Kirovograd to the Crimean border is approximately 300 km.

    1L222 Carpool

    The purpose of the reconnaissance complex is the passive detection of emitting radars, including pulsed side-view aviation radars, weapon control and low-altitude flight radars, and the issuance of angular coordinates of operating radars (azimuth, elevation angle), radar class, frequency numbers to an automated control center band according to the lettering of the jamming stations SPN-2 or SPN-4.

    Please note that the purpose of the complex is only passive detection; it could not interfere with the MQ-5B control system and break the connection with the operator.

    On the other hand, from the same characteristics of the MQ-5B it follows that its takeoff and landing are automatic, so if you theoretically imagine that the connection with the operator was broken, then nothing had to be done to land the UAV.

    And enough of the fluff about missiles, there is no information about this at all, there is only the possibility of installing two Viper Strike gliding precision bombs on the UAV, but there is no information that they were on this particular UAV.
  68. 0
    15 March 2014 14: 19
    The creatures overseas will not start a war against us, everyone in the world has already understood this, but they will constantly crap out of anger and powerlessness. Go Russia!!
  69. -2
    15 March 2014 14: 20
    Israeli drones rained down like hail over Georgia, there is a photo of a shot down Israeli scrap metal shot down by Abkhaz troops, there is a photo of the destruction of the Israeli indestructible prodigy, taken by the drone itself over Georgia, there is a photo of a Pin-DOS drone landed over Iran, but where is the photo of even the wreckage? American drones? Until there is a photo, I don’t believe in the UAV landing.
    1. +2
      15 March 2014 14: 29
      Why do you need a photo? Do you not believe in the capabilities of the "Autobase" Complex? We have a lot of them, their efficiency is beyond praise, and their secrecy is at the highest level. Ensures the impossibility of using automatic, remotely controlled probes and unmanned aerial vehicles on the territory of Russia (and not only). P&D's flying junk is not viable for us, let them spend billions of dollars on their drones, we have "AVTOBAZA". laughing laughing
  70. +10
    15 March 2014 14: 38
    - Flew, your mother in the grave! - So, Sashka, roughly you need to beat them!
  71. +1
    15 March 2014 14: 39
    it's just a song! We can!
  72. 0
    15 March 2014 15: 00
    Clearly they shot down or imprisoned. There’s one thing I don’t understand what the American military is doing in Ukraine. What did they forget there? Let them go to their dance.
  73. 0
    15 March 2014 15: 07
    As far as I understand, it is already being studied...
  74. 0
    15 March 2014 15: 25
    Quote: Watchman
    As far as I understand, it is already being studied...


    Nope. Right now they will return it to the amers with an apology ;)
    Of course, they dissect it carefully and with pleasure. And they will draw conclusions. And based on them they will decide where it is necessary and what needs to be done. Because neh.
  75. 0
    15 March 2014 15: 43
    They check vigilance. Or what they want to see. Well, they looked. Well, that’s where he should go.
  76. 0
    15 March 2014 16: 00
    Whether they intercepted it or not is not even the question. The question is different - why was this reported on all news channels? And a much more serious question is whether there was an attack on our communications satellites? If this is a subtle hint from the Russian Federation about the consequences, then why spread the word about it to the whole world? Or did they spread it to give our answer along with this news? In general, something very bad is being planned...
    1. 0
      15 March 2014 19: 42
      Actually, there are elections in Crimea tomorrow.
      Maybe that’s why they published it, to calm things down for Sunday, so as not to interfere?
  77. kelevra
    0
    15 March 2014 16: 04
    The USA will not pass! Stupid democrats, go to your island and don’t rock the boat, otherwise we’ll treat you to poplars!
  78. +1
    15 March 2014 16: 17
    No offense to forum members, but mischievous sentiments are bad! This has happened more than once in our history! It didn't end well! We need competent analysis! and System conclusions! Only five comments are worthy of attention! Let's study the materiel!
  79. 0
    15 March 2014 16: 19
    Hello American and other UAVs - polite "Pantsir" in Crimea

    Military vehicles, believed to be Russian, drive on the road near Bakhchisaray March 14, 2014. Russia shipped more troops and armor into Crimea on Friday and repeated its threat to invade other parts of Ukraine, showing no sign of listening to Western pleas to back off from the worst confrontation since the Cold War. REUTERS / David Mdzinarishvili (UKRAINE - Tags: POLITICS CIVIL UNREST MILITARY)
    http://news.yahoo.com/photos/military-vehicles-believed-russian-drive-road-near-

    bakhchisaray-photo-154325326.html
  80. +2
    15 March 2014 16: 19
    Dear !!!
    Regarding the UAV. Was unofficial information leak.
    Essentially:
    1 - we are not in a state of war with the Americans.
    2 - the territory of Crimea until the 16th - Ukrainian.
    3 - according to paragraph 2, the Ukrainian side can officially allow the flight of drones on its (for now) territory
    4 - according to paragraph 1, we do not have the right to shoot down American drones in foreign airspace (there is no reason) otherwise......
    5 - according to clause 1.....clause 4, we will never officially admit that we shot down. Hence the strange expression of Rostec
    The corporation is responsible for the quality of supplied products, but is not responsible for the movement and results of using equipment supplied by the Corporation’s enterprises on orders from contractors.

    6 - Americans will never admit the loss of a device without presenting the remaining balance, which we will not do in the near future (see point 1)
  81. artefom
    +3
    15 March 2014 17: 05
    Quote: professor
    Well, can you tell us how you "jammed the control channel" in a broadband encrypted communication? Or should I tell you that it is almost impossible to do this? About the antenna with a controlled directional pattern, too, to tell?


    I'd love to hear it. Maybe the Americans are wasting millions of dollars on terrain recognition systems for their cruise missiles, target identification systems based on a stored image? After all, it is impossible to interrupt the communication channel, just as it is impossible to jam the GPS signal? Offer them your explanations, they are, stupid, tense.
    1. 0
      15 March 2014 22: 42
      Yes, the guys were just working nearby with electric welding... They were welding the bumper on a KamAZ truck - so the roof of the UAV moved out of the interference... wink
  82. +1
    15 March 2014 17: 25
    While drones are so primitive, they are really easy to neutralize, but with an increase in their “intelligence” such numbers will not pass... Therefore, ours need to work and work on similar devices... P.i.n.d.o.s.s are going into in front... they have an excellent elemental base for such things - video cameras of various radiation ranges, 3D accelerometers, 3D magnetometers, 3D gyroscopes in a matchbox-sized chip, GPS, very powerful processors, digital communication chips... and a bunch more. .. and we HAVE NOTHING OF THIS... thanks to “democracy”, “human rights”, “liberal values” and simple theft and betrayal... eh Russia Russia you are almost unarmed in the face of the coming cataclysms...
  83. 0
    15 March 2014 17: 26
    Dark story. It is a fact. The Americans said. that they did not lose anything in Crimea. Rostec-manufacturer "Avtobaza". That they didn’t buy anything from him, and he didn’t supply anything to anyone.
  84. 0
    15 March 2014 17: 43
    Good catch and something to show for it.
  85. 0
    15 March 2014 17: 43
    A- am [media=http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tVyR_1uBE
    ik] you saw the Yankee infection!!!
  86. +7
    15 March 2014 18: 06
    The MQ-5B was walking at a height of about 4000 meters from the setting sun and was not visible from the ground. He was intercepted with the help of the Russian electronic warfare complex (EW) 1L222 Avtobaz and got the forces of self-defense almost intact. Avtobaz broke the connection of the UAV with its American operators, after which the device made an emergency landing.
    Zadornov is correct in calling Americans stupid. It still hasn’t dawned on their meager minds that they are no longer the best in the world.
  87. 0
    15 March 2014 18: 14
    It wouldn't hurt to intercept an aircraft carrier
  88. 0
    15 March 2014 19: 50
    [quote=Mature naturalist]PR for "Military Observer". Or conspiracy on the part of Rostec.

    [I]Official refutation of the State Corporation

    Rostec does not confirm information on the facts of using the AvtoBAZ hardware on the territory of the Crimean peninsula

    The state corporation Rostec does not officially confirm the information appeared in a number of media about the facts of using the AvtoBAZ technical equipment on the territory of the Crimean peninsula.

    The Corporation is responsible for the quality of the products supplied, but is not responsible for the movement and results of the use of equipment supplied by the Corporation's enterprises on the orders of counterparties.

    The primary source of published information is the Military Explorer Internet portal.

    Responsibility for the correctness, reliability and completeness of published information lies with the editors of Military Observer.

    Yeah, they confessed right away. Oh, oh, did the American drone itself fall?
  89. 0
    15 March 2014 20: 00
    Soviet, Soviet-Russian and Russian weapons are the best in the world.
  90. 0
    15 March 2014 20: 21
    The antennas of the space communications radar, when operating “for transmission”, burned the foliage of living trees in a minute, a bird that fell into the antenna’s coverage area in flight immediately fell dead...

    Is it really impossible to crash a UAV in this way, burning the electronics?
  91. sensey
    -1
    15 March 2014 20: 54
    [quote=Ascetic][quote=Alexander Romanov]The Americans still have drones, it will soon be possible to offer them supplies of spare parts [/quote]

    Video shot from an American drone in the Crimea. The date below is March 08, 2014.


    It’s interesting that they are trying to mold it with a laser 1:10 - 1:20 but apparently it doesn’t give any effect... are these filters?
  92. -1
    15 March 2014 21: 07
    º
    it's fake.

    I put up a whiskey battle.
    your evidence?
  93. +2
    15 March 2014 21: 22
    Quote: professor
    For some reason you dragged the gentiles. Provocateur?

    Is there something clever to say in the materiel?

    AFTER THE DROPPED STEALTH IN SERBIA, I TRUST OUR EQUIPMENT.
  94. 0
    16 March 2014 02: 53
    No photos yet - FAKE!
  95. Sledgehammer
    0
    16 March 2014 03: 06
    'Avtobaza' jammed the radio channel and the GPS receiver fell.
  96. 0
    16 March 2014 04: 38
    If this is true, then BRAVO!