Putin and Lavrov have proposals for the USA in Ukraine

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Putin and Lavrov have proposals for the USA in Ukraine

Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov discussed at the working meeting the response proposals to resolve the situation in Ukraine, which will be sent to the United States, reports "Russia 24". Lavrov noted that the proposals are aimed at bringing the situation into the framework of international law.

During the meeting of the President of the Russian Federation and the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, it was decided that any monitoring activities of the OSCE in Crimea should be coordinated with the legitimate Crimean authorities. The words of the US Permanent Representative to the OSCE Daniel Baer, ​​who had previously asked Moscow to help military observers to freely visit the Crimea, were not left without attention. “It’s surprising itself to raise a question that is clearly addressed to the wrong address,” the Foreign Ministry noted. “We presume that any monitoring activities of the OSCE in Crimea should be coordinated with the legitimate Crimean authorities.”

Also in the Russian Foreign Ministry expressed the hope that "US diplomats will pay more attention to the really dangerous and unpredictable incidents." In particular, we are talking about the disappearance of several dozen portable air defense systems "Igla".

During the conversation, it became known that the head of the US Department of State, John Kerry, postponed his visit to Russia, which was to be held on March 10. Sergey Lavrov reported on this to Vladimir Putin. Lavrov noted that Kerry was invited first and gave his consent, but then said that he would like to postpone the visit. According to Lavrov, Kerry explained that a new document is being prepared in Washington, which will be submitted to the Foreign Ministry. “Frankly speaking, we have many questions in connection with this document,” said the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

The head of the diplomatic department also informed the president that, on his instructions, the Foreign Ministry is consulting on the situation in Ukraine with foreign partners, which lasted the entire past week. After that, the parties expressed their desire for Russia and the United States to meet and once again discuss the Ukrainian issue.

At the meeting, Sergey Lavrov reported to the president on the content of the document on the American vision of the Ukrainian issue. In the document sent by John Kerry, Moscow and Washington disagree on the situation. “Everything was formulated in the spirit of the alleged conflict between Russia and Ukraine and in recognition of the fait accompli,” the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry said. "Our partners suggested starting from this situation created by the coup d'état," Lavrov explained.

The head of Russian diplomacy reported to Vladimir Putin that the European partners had offered Russia and the United States to directly find approaches to resolving the Ukrainian question. “At the next round of bilateral contacts, partners expressed a wish that the Americans and I should directly try to find some approaches that would be acceptable to everyone,” the Russian minister said. He also recalled that at the beginning of March a series of international meetings took place, where the head of the State Department, John Kerry, and the foreign minister of European countries participated.
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  1. +29
    11 March 2014 07: 51
    Most of all, I wouldn’t want to agree on a quiet one and merge the Crimea, Serdyukov alone is enough as a fly in the ointment.
    1. -5
      11 March 2014 07: 54
      However, they can, otherwise all these exchanges of secret documents.
      It would be normal for us to write in them, they would give a read.
      1. +16
        11 March 2014 08: 48
        Quote: BlackMokona
        However may

        Learn dear from Alex66 his statement _
        Quote: Alex66
        Most of all, I wouldn’t like to agree on a quiet and merged Crimea

        Not a bit in meaning does not differ from yours, but look, he has a positive rating for the comment and profile, and you?

        GDP and Lavrov demonstrated once again _
        "The very statement of the question, which was clearly addressed to the wrong address, is surprising," the Foreign Ministry noted. "We proceed from the assumption that any OSCE monitoring activities in Crimea must be coordinated with the legitimate Crimean authorities."

        The first layer is clear, there is the LEGAL government of Crimea, and negotiate with them.
        The second is not so obvious, but why did these Geyevropeytsy and Yusovtsy suddenly begin to speak on behalf of Ukraine?
        But if they say it, then they are sure _ How they say it will be so!

        Congratulations, independent, Ukraine, with your help, has already lost the remnants of sovereignty. Previously, they tried to negotiate with her at least somehow, now they do not pay attention at all.
        Forward to a brighter, associated, gay European future!
        1. -2
          11 March 2014 09: 34
          And do you leave comments, only to put advantages to you?
          1. avg
            +1
            11 March 2014 10: 35
            He (Cynic) leaves clear comments unlike BlackMokona. And politely asks the latter to do the same.
          2. +2
            11 March 2014 11: 15
            Quote: Shick
            And do you leave comments, only to put advantages to you?

            No, I express my point of view in accordance with the rules of my monastery.
            Yes, after reading your comment and comment avg , understood, again violated the golden rule _ Do not be smart and the people will reach for you.

            My post was not about comparing the politeness and clarity of comments Alex66 и Blackmokona , and the second forum member comment _ echo. Which is absolutely sincere and understandable.
            Here is the first ...
            Culturally, politely, tolerantly expressed doubt about the VICTORY of RUSSIA and its WORD.
            I was always surprised _ We will learn to think, or we will constantly be led to a beautiful package of goods, thoughts, it does not matter.
            Dear forum users, how do you react to a person who doubted your word and publicly announced this ?! AND ?
            Rating - 8 on +32!
            So it turns out 32 forum users would approve of this!
            This is scary ! Or does everyone see what he wants to see?
            When you learn to think with your own head, or is it hard-witted?
            hi
        2. -1
          11 March 2014 09: 34
          And do you leave comments, only to put advantages to you?
        3. +3
          11 March 2014 09: 47
          Quote: Cynic
          and why actually these Geyevropeytsy and Yusovtsy suddenly began to speak on behalf of Ukraine?

          It can be formulated in another way: referring to Moscow about such assistance, the US Permanent Representative to the OSCE already indirectly recognized Crimea as part of the Russian Federation? winked
          1. 0
            11 March 2014 11: 41
            Quote: Kurkul
            addressing Moscow about such assistance, the US envoy to the OSCE has already indirectly recognized Crimea as part of the Russian Federation

            Help with what?
            If in the Crimea, then they understand this help very peculiarly_ return Crimea back!

            In fact, they do not recognize Crimea as part of the Russian Federation, but hint at the nullity / illegitimacy of the current government in Crimea.
            Policy ...
      2. +3
        11 March 2014 09: 17
        BlackMokona SU Today, 07:54 ↑
        However, they can, otherwise all these exchanges of secret documents.
        It would be normal for us to write in them, they would give a read.

        I think they will not merge, because Putin is a politician and monitors his rating. Ours, by hook or by crook, are trying to avoid a direct military clash, at least before the referendum in Crimea. But after the referendum, it is not important that the USA and the EU recognize it, the will of the people will be announced, the most interesting will begin.
        After all, everyone understands that the Anglo-Saxons are trying to create a state on the territory of Ukraine in the likeness of Nazi Germany, again against Russia. I think how that experiment ended, everyone remembers well.
    2. Com T-64a
      +55
      11 March 2014 07: 56
      Dear, yes, I’ve agreed to eat a gobbler for 5 years, if only I didn’t give Crimea, and Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk too!
      1. +7
        11 March 2014 09: 00
        I agree with you "Kom T-64a", 100%. drinks
        1. +13
          11 March 2014 09: 33
          Quote: Com. T-64a
          Dear, yes, I’ve agreed to eat a gobbler for 5 years, if only I didn’t give Crimea, and Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk too!

          You pushed me to another poetic hooliganism, my friend!
          These lines are the result of your beautiful imagination and I am grateful to you for this! drinks

          I’ll burst but I won’t give up the Crimea!

          I’m ready to eat a cut for five years!
          That only Crimea would return back!
          And ten years more I will devour
          What would Maidan them on ... me !!!

          I will eat twenty years!
          Swim from porridge with a fat gloss!
          But I will get a reward
          Southeast with Dnepropetrovsk !!!

          You have a huge respect from me and a plus!

          Quote: Simon
          I agree with you "Kom T-64a", 100%.

          I completely agree with you all 200%! hi drinks
        2. Ivan Russky
          0
          11 March 2014 11: 33
          Similarly. And not so worried hi
      2. +8
        11 March 2014 09: 01
        Quote: Com. T-64a
        Donetsk with Dnepropetrovsk too!

        If people ask.
        You can’t bless people by force! A man appreciates only earned sweat and blood. Else _ Easy come, even easier go !!!

        I noticed that they used to threaten to curse GDP for draining the Crimea, now they’ve added the South-East, then will they talk about borders until the age of 39?
        Yes, I do not hear the PROMISED ecstatic screams to praise the GDP for NOT DRAINING Syria!
        Hollow-breeds, God forgive me.
        1. +7
          11 March 2014 09: 14
          Quote: Cynic

          If people ask.
          You can’t bless people by force! A man appreciates only earned sweat and blood. Else _ Easy come, even easier go !!!

          I absolutely agree with you, dear Cynic (2) hi
          Now everything is completely in the hands of ordinary people in southeastern Ukraine. If they themselves do not get together and do not want, then no one will help! I want to add one more thought. Soon Ukraine will be covered by a wave of economic problems and difficult trials, and many people will be forced to act and think!
          Still just getting started!
      3. +5
        11 March 2014 09: 11
        Quote: Com. T-64
        Dear, yes, I’ve agreed to eat a golem for 5 years, if only I wouldn’t give Crimea, and Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk

        I support, I think we are not alone and there are a lot of such. Do not forget Lugansk, Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolaev.
      4. +5
        11 March 2014 09: 11
        Russia will not surrender Crimea. I’ve eaten a chop in the army, I don’t want something more wink
        1. 0
          11 March 2014 11: 52
          Why?? Now there is a cross-section without worms.)))
        2. 0
          11 March 2014 12: 22
          Quote: Vadim12
          I’ve eaten a chop in the army, I don’t want something more

          The cook did not know how to cook.
      5. gsg955
        +4
        11 March 2014 09: 13
        It would be necessary to shake our oligarchs to support the Crimea. For 10%, let them throw off.
        1. +2
          11 March 2014 11: 28
          Believe me, they have already shaken ... Recently, this practice has become widespread. The Olympics were held not only with budget money. An offer simply comes to participate in one or another "enterprise" which is not an option to refuse. And if there is a desire to continue living well, you will help. CheKists, what more can you say. And I personally think this is the right approach. It's time to collect stones ...
      6. -2
        11 March 2014 11: 43
        I agree ... In the afternoon, I’m waiting for decisive actions from GDP. And so while blah blah blah Uogda troops begin to enter !? I myself would go, just give me a tip where these pi .... s sit Bandera. and those that simple people shot at Institutskaya. Cattle corrupt.
      7. +1
        12 March 2014 09: 55
        Com T-64a RU Yesterday, 07:56 ↑

        Dear, yes, I’ve agreed to eat a gobbler for 5 years, if only I didn’t give Crimea, and Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk too!

        I agree!

        It is necessary by all means to squeeze New Russia.
        New Russia as part of Russia, no matter what.
    3. +20
      11 March 2014 07: 57
      Crimea with all options is Russian. It is not clear with New Russia. And why should we give someone a report if we return our territories?
      1. gsg955
        +5
        11 March 2014 09: 08
        Crimea as it came, and leave the Ukrainians.
      2. +2
        11 March 2014 11: 48
        Quote: Gardamir
        Crimea with all options is Russian. It is not clear with New Russia. And why should we give someone a report if we return our territories?

    4. +37
      11 March 2014 08: 03
      Drain will not work. Too untwisted theme. On all channels, rallies in support of accession are shown. Now back up is a political death for Putin.
      In addition, all the problems and threats that have arisen by the country's leadership have been taken into account. Two thousand and eighth year did not pass in vain. In fact, the situation is the same. The same teachings as before the war in South Ossetia. The same hysteria of the Western media, the threat of sanctions (although they really can’t do anything), the movement of ships and military units of NATO. Even Saakashvili is the same.
      The only thing that worries is the appearance of AWACS in Poland and Romania. This may indicate that the pennants decided to try to storm the Crimea with the help of Ukrainian forces. Here is the question of what our people will do. They simply beat off the attack, under the howls of the Western press about the aggression of the Russians and the Banderlog heroes, or they would go further and send troops into the southeastern regions of Ukraine. In my opinion, the second option would be more correct, since if this is not done, then after the referendum in Crimea the Russian genocide will begin in the southeast, and in the end it will still have to enter the troops.
      As for the Crimea, it is already Russian. This is no longer being discussed.
      1. +14
        11 March 2014 08: 14
        I think that Russia has prepared a very unpleasant surprise for the West that will cool them peremptorily in this situation.
        1. +4
          11 March 2014 08: 25
          Most likely they will offer to conduct a diologist after the presidential election in Ukraine.
        2. 0
          11 March 2014 11: 53
          Quote: alexneg
          I think that Russia has prepared a very unpleasant surprise for the West that will cool them peremptorily in this situation.

          Yeah. A kind of unexpected man on the part of GDP.
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      3. +5
        11 March 2014 08: 38
        Do not forget about the referendum. The people of Crimea will choose with whom and where to move.
      4. +4
        11 March 2014 09: 07
        Quote: tungus
        Here is the question of what our people will do. They simply beat off the attack, under the howls of the Western press about the aggression of the Russians and the Banderlog heroes, or they would go further and send troops into the southeastern regions of Ukraine.

        Go, not Georgia.
        The Westerners will be thrown to the Gay Europeans like a bone, since they strive there with all the fibers of their souls, while they share, ours will help the locals hold referendums and fulfill the WILL of the PEOPLE.
      5. DMB-78
        +1
        11 March 2014 09: 20
        Quote: tungus
        The only thing that worries is the appearance of AWACS in Poland and Romania.

        here on the site there is infa that intelligence will not be shared
    5. +17
      11 March 2014 08: 04
      Quote: Alex66
      Most of all, I wouldn’t like to agree on a quiet and merged Crimea

      Shaw, are there any prerequisites? We will take the southeast tongue
    6. jjj
      +7
      11 March 2014 08: 09
      Fuss around Serdyukov's "amnesty" has begun so that people turn away from Putin
      1. +13
        11 March 2014 08: 15
        Quote: jjj
        Fuss around Serdyukov's "amnesty" has begun,

        Does the article even remind you of Serdyukov?
        1. jjj
          +1
          11 March 2014 09: 16
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Does the article even remind you of Serdyukov?

          Answered the very first comment:
          Quote: Alex66
          Alex66 Today, 07: 51
          Most of all, I wouldn’t want to agree on a quiet one and merge the Crimea, Serdyukov alone is enough as a fly in the ointment.
          1. +2
            11 March 2014 09: 27
            Quote: jjj

            Answered the very first comment:

            But koment flew under my request
        2. +1
          11 March 2014 09: 53
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Does the article even remind you of Serdyukov?

          Without it now, no event passes ... smile
      2. +5
        11 March 2014 09: 09
        The people will not turn their backs on Putin; he is the most powerful leader in the whole world. Obama’s hands are trembling when he is talking on the phone with Putin. Putin is sure to come up with something that Obama will have cold sweat on his back and breath. Yes
        1. DMB-78
          +1
          11 March 2014 09: 23
          Quote: Simon
          Obama’s hands are trembling when he is talking on the phone with Putin.

          they say even when pissing, ends three times laughing
    7. +8
      11 March 2014 08: 15
      It can be seen that the Americans have already howled at the fact that they hurried to ruin the USSR. Their long-growing economy and politics implied the presence of a strong adversary.
      Vain attempts to reanimate the image of the enemy in the form of muslims - failed, well, these are not competitors of their power at all. And intelligence - now it’s not against anyone to use as an enemy - began to be used against the whole world, including its own country.
      They cannot find where to use their power. Therefore, they need a strong and independent Russia.
      1. +6
        11 March 2014 09: 06
        Quote: Com. T-64a
        Dear, yes, I’ve agreed to eat a gobbler for 5 years, if only I didn’t give Crimea, and Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk too!


        Unlike many who put you pluses, I put a minus.

        Can you afford to spit on Putin?
        Or do you think Putin can let you spit on yourself?

        If you so want to join Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk to Russia, and you do not agree with the course pursued by our government and the President, what are you doing here? Why aren't you there?

        Dear users, let's be calmer and more serious. Enough tantrums and semi-patriotic screams. Semi - this is because these are just empty words.
        1. +6
          11 March 2014 09: 27
          Can you afford to spit on Putin?
          Or do you think Putin can let you spit on yourself?
          laughing he has a personal TV set, shutting himself and closing the curtains, he can at least someone and at least with someone! wassat many spit ... and some kiss ... wassatright to privacy!
      2. Mergen
        +5
        11 March 2014 09: 15
        Quote: theadenter
        It can be seen that the Americans have already howled at the fact that they hurried to ruin the USSR. For many years, the growing economy and politics implied the presence of a strong adversary. Vain attempts to reanimate the image of the enemy in the form of muslims failed, these, well, are not at all competitors of their power. And intelligence - now there is no one to use it as an enemy - began to be used against the whole world, including their own country. They cannot find where to use their power. Therefore, they need a strong and independent Russia

        You do not forget about China, the United States throws all the power in the direction of China. And they will make the image of the enemy from the blacks of Zimbabwe, they have experience.
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      4. +5
        11 March 2014 09: 17
        The naval base of NATO (read - USA) in the Crimea - the entire Black Sea region is under their heels! Losing such a gingerbread ... In a mess arranged in Ukraine, this was one of the priorities. And suddenly it turns out that Crimea has become a hotbed of resistance for the new pro-American junta! It sets an example for at least part of the population of southeastern Ukraine! It's a shame, listen, yes ... Damn so much work, money, and here Russia harnesses brazenly .. And it almost already ours (yusovskoe) .. So they bit a bit. Well, we are waiting for the referendum, we hope for the best.
      5. +4
        11 March 2014 09: 31
        Quote: theadenter
        They cannot find where to use their power.

        The axis of evil has lost its foothold, achieving the collapse of the Union.
  2. +11
    11 March 2014 07: 51
    A series of games "Putin versus the whole world"
    1. DMB-78
      +15
      11 March 2014 08: 04
      Quote: Igor39
      A series of games "Putin versus the whole world"

      simultaneous game session. black starts and loses
      1. +2
        11 March 2014 08: 08
        I would like to hear what they suggested the USA, in an informal setting winked
        1. +8
          11 March 2014 08: 23
          Quote: Igor39
          I would like to hear what they suggested the USA, in an informal setting

          Yes, in general, everything has already been voiced. One suggestion is to return the situation to the February agreements. Putin did not just say that if the situation does not change, then we will not recognize the elections in Ukraine. The bargaining most likely goes on this occasion.
          Our insist on cleansing banderlog and holding fair elections. That would participate in them and candidates from the southeast. Under the control of international observers.
          States are not happy. They bet just on banderlog. And they understand that in a fair election, none of today's trinity will win. Therefore, they do not agree and want to consolidate the current situation. But they understand that the fascists will begin to terrorize the southeast. They want guarantees from Putin that Russia will not intervene. They don’t talk about Crimea, they wrote off Crimea. This is even their former Minister of Defense voiced. Now there is a struggle for the southeast.
          1. Fin
            +2
            11 March 2014 09: 23
            Quote: tungus
            Putin did not just say that if the situation does not change, then we will not recognize the elections in Ukraine. The bargaining most likely goes on this occasion.

            I think bargaining on the recognition of the referendum in Crimea, in exchange for the recognition of the Pres. election. And there we will nominate our candidate, and whose candidate we’ll take.
          2. +3
            11 March 2014 09: 24
            If there are enough brains in the Southeast, but there is hope, that is enough ...
            The general all-Ukrainian elections simply will not work - they will not take place.

            Even if they (elections) take place, then stability will appear in Ukraine, of course, but only in the sense that lawlessness will begin everywhere and for a very long time, if not forever.

            At the same time, the hope for brains in the Southeast is weak - the political past elites are almost completely discredited. Because of this, there is simply no one to lead the people and organize in an independent movement, so to speak.

            Against this background, the titanic efforts to awaken public consciousness are made by the radical deputies of the Verkhovna Rada (Lyashko and associates, if we talk about Lugansk), insulting the protesters, hitting political opponents, there may be victims, but they are poorly promoted in the media space.
            Something I strongly doubt that all of them will try to explain to Americans.

            Amers need an option with recognized general elections and subsequent chaos, the destruction of heavy and the rest of the industry, a region of social tension in the underbelly of Russia. And that’s all. And if you can also put in the ABM, it will be a maximum program.
          3. Andrei Forge 67
            +2
            11 March 2014 11: 10
            plus how many have already been arrested! creatures unfinished!
        2. +4
          11 March 2014 10: 03
          I would like to hear what they suggested the USA, in an informal setting
          I dare to suggest that it was about the return of Alaska, the lease was over, and the new, as I understand it, was not extended. bully
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        4. 0
          11 March 2014 12: 01
          Yes, our time is dragging on and that's it. As the people say the head "do" it. We need to buy time so that the referendum goes smoothly. We adopted their own tactics "and Vanka listens and eats, listens and eats."
      2. +7
        11 March 2014 08: 14
        wassat Please be careful so write yazh asleep at work (so laugh)
        1. +3
          11 March 2014 09: 08
          Quote: tungus
          they understand that in a fair election none of today's trinity will win.


          And there, Yarosh with his gopot will win, if the election is destined to be. This is generally without options, especially for Klitschko.
          1. +5
            11 March 2014 09: 14
            Quote: Banshee
            And there, Yarosh with his gopot will win, if the election is destined to be

            Not. Yarosh will be supported by the western regions, and even then not in full. In Galicia, banderlogs create lawlessness and get away with it. And there, after all, there are normal people and they don’t like that.
            The bulk of voters live in the center and in the southeast. With fair elections, Yarosh will lose. Who will win, FIG knows him.
            The southeast has no candidate yet. And in the current situation, he will not appear. They will not allow it.
            This is what Putin spoke about at a press conference. And on this occasion, there is a bargain.
            1. +4
              11 March 2014 10: 17
              Quote: tungus
              Who will win, FIG knows him


              "Klitschko and Yatsenyuk met in Berlin with Merkel.
              Klitschko introduced Yatsenyuk as his translator, Yatsenyuk - Klitschko - as his bodyguard " laughing
              1. +8
                11 March 2014 10: 36
                Quote: Egoza

                "Klitschko and Yatsenyuk met in Berlin with Merkel.
                Klitschko introduced Yatsenyuk as his translator, Yatsenyuk - Klitschko - as his bodyguard "

                Let me laugh YOU ELENA-Clear! I want to thank you for the titanic work that you carry with honor on your fragile, female shoulders !!!

                Let me introduce you?

                Meet Frau Merkel
                This is my "heifer" Klitschko!
                He protects with all his chest
                My weak point !!!

                Frau Merkel, I have the honor!
                The one nearby is a bald glitch
                My bespectacled translator!
                Tricky rabbit Yatsenyuk!

                And they all went satisfied, hand in hand holding hands!
                1. +4
                  11 March 2014 11: 04
                  Quote: Arberes
                  I want to thank you for that titanic work

                  Thanks! Although it is very loudly said! feel
                  I Just "Serve the working people!"
                  And the verse is wonderful !!! good
                  1. +5
                    11 March 2014 11: 17
                    Quote: Egoza
                    Thanks! Although it is very loudly said!
                    I Just "Serve the working people!"


                    Let me redeem you in the rays of national glory!

                    Friends! Beautiful Elena!
                    We drink standing up for YOU! Here are the flowers! love love love
                    I do not offer you broodershaft!
                    But can we go to "YOU" ??????
              2. DMB-78
                +3
                11 March 2014 10: 51
                Quote: Egoza
                Klitschko and Yatsenyuk met in Berlin with Merkel.

                that is, the rabbit is already in Germany looking for a place to live? laughing
  3. +38
    11 March 2014 07: 53
    Putin voiced his proposal laughing
    1. jjj
      +13
      11 March 2014 08: 11
      Yes, Russian art is great, there will always be a prophetic episode
      1. +5
        11 March 2014 08: 18
        Quote: jjj
        great Russian art, there will always be a prophetic episode

        stop Not! Not a prophetic episode! Illustrative material! Yes
        1. +6
          11 March 2014 10: 23
          Quote: retired
          Not! Not a prophetic episode! Illustrative material!

          Faithfully noticed by you, dear senior citizen (5) hi

          Re-sound only in a new way!

          -Vladimir! Are you a Komsomol member? This is not our method ???
          -Maybe we should not????
          - It’s necessary, Barak!
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    3. +5
      11 March 2014 08: 19
      And this of course will go into the annals of military art. good drinks
  4. ilya_82
    +15
    11 March 2014 07: 54
    Putin will not be able to drain the Crimea. Otherwise, it will be possible to withdraw the entire Black Sea Fleet to the middle of the Black Sea and flood it, there will be no parking for it. It will be just suicide
  5. +7
    11 March 2014 08: 02
    Hot days are coming before the CRIMEAN REFERENDUM
    GALITSIAN STORM STORMS are preparing for an attack on the CRIMEA ... the threat is becoming real, so far there is reconnaissance in battle.
    1. +6
      11 March 2014 08: 45
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      GALITSIAN STORM STORMS are preparing for an attack on the CRIMEA ... the threat is becoming real, so far there is reconnaissance in battle.

      It is unlikely. If they have not yet drank all their brains, then they must understand that they should not be able to start hostilities. In response, Russian tanks could even reach the Polish border, and so quickly that NATO would not even be able to pack up and accept the Independent.
      But they can provoke the Russians to open fire, and then they can scream to the whole world about aggression.
      1. +3
        11 March 2014 09: 14
        Yes, we already have experience since the Great Patriotic War. Yes
  6. +5
    11 March 2014 08: 02
    Oleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, where are you? we are dying without you. recourse
    1. +4
      11 March 2014 08: 19
      Quote: a52333
      Oleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, where are you? we are dying without you.

      Volodin said that Oleg will be soon! Yes
      1. +3
        11 March 2014 09: 30
        Quote: retired
        Volodin said that Oleg will be soon!

        Volodin deceived, Oleg is already here and now hangs in skype laughing
        1. +1
          11 March 2014 10: 03
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Deceived Volodin

          Well, you can’t trust anyone! Finally! am
  7. +5
    11 March 2014 08: 05
    Again, the Americans will do what they like to do - pour over from empty to empty.
  8. +16
    11 March 2014 08: 06
    Today I read that Russians in Latvia are collecting signatures in favor of joining Russia. As far as I know, Russians also live in Brighton Beach ... That would be a rzhaka if they began to collect signatures laughing This is certainly something from the realm of fantasy, but still ...
    In general, all these demarches like "I won't go" or to exclude someone from something are tantamount to childish babble. The kids in the State Department are already lying to such an extent that it's time to either put them in a corner or introduce their ass to the belt. wassat
    Never believe the lying West! Never...
    1. +4
      11 March 2014 09: 11
      Quote: Rurikovich
      That rzhaka would be if they began to collect signatures

      If I am not mistaken, one hundred thousand signatures under the appeal and the authorities MUST consider!
      The mere appearance of such a vote on the network _ heart attacks and resignations is not inevitable laughing
  9. +3
    11 March 2014 08: 06
    Something in the text I did not see the proposal for the United States in Ukraine. In my opinion, the content of the article does not match the title.
    1. +3
      11 March 2014 09: 16
      Quote: Weniamin
      Something in the text I did not see the proposal for the United States in Ukraine.

      And she, what has changed since Geyevropa and USA offered Russia, as they usually offer to others, to betray (namely, and not tolerantly merge) their in Ukraine?
      Where have you been lately? In the monastery?
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    3. +1
      11 March 2014 12: 40
      The proposal for the United States is the arrival of John Kerry in Russia to discuss the conditions for further bilateral action to resolve the conflict.
      It seems to be an obvious conclusion from the article.
  10. +7
    11 March 2014 08: 06
    Too much is already at stake. There is no way back for anyone. Crimea will be ours. Russians do not give up.
  11. +11
    11 March 2014 08: 06
    And what can Putin say to Obama? Just this!
  12. +5
    11 March 2014 08: 08
    Apparently, there is a game of nerves and not all the trump cards are presented; the most interesting thing is ahead, I hope Putin has powerful trump cards in his sleeve, and time is playing for us. The opposition in Ukraine has quieted down waiting for money, mentally already anticipating how much can be stolen and, most importantly, who will be the main person watching this common fund from the west.
    1. +3
      11 March 2014 09: 00
      Quote: morpogr
      I hope Putin has powerful trump cards up his sleeve
      Putin’s trump cards are on his hands, not on his sleeve. Is he a sharpie in your opinion? This is a double morality among our Western partners as a second deck on sleeves, socks and underpants.
      1. +1
        11 March 2014 11: 11
        You can win by bluffing, but I think that Putin still has something prepared!
        1. 0
          11 March 2014 12: 10
          for example, Yanukovych’s speech today.
  13. DMB-78
    +3
    11 March 2014 08: 09
    all these words "our partners" are reminiscent of the harry potter movies. "you yourself know who", although everyone understands that this is a Woland Demoor. but at least they were afraid to say his name
  14. +5
    11 March 2014 08: 10
    The best that the OSCE can do is to establish a dialogue between Crimeans and ordinary soldiers in the Ukrainian Army, from which they want to make cannon fodder. May Truth triumph!
    Weakly to Bandera to agree to an exchange of agitators under OSCE guarantees. Let them campaign in Crimea (in strictly designated places) for the junta, and Crimeans will have access to agitate Ukrainian soldiers!
    Let the OSCE offer it!
  15. -10
    11 March 2014 08: 11
    Quote: ilya_82
    Otherwise, it will be possible to withdraw the entire Black Sea Fleet to the middle of the Black Sea and flood it, there will be no parking for it.

    Just think, it has already been drowned, it is not the first time, there is nothing particularly valuable there, except for RTOs and tugs, and a berth is being built there in Novorossiysk, and there has been "Mikhail Kutuzov" there since time immemorial, which once was based in Sevastopol, by the way, here he is among everything The Black Sea Fleet is the only one who can work on land, an artillery spotter is enough
    1. +9
      11 March 2014 08: 20
      You’re right, my friend, squandering from left to right, as if you had done (fleet) and won back to you (Crimea)
      1. -8
        11 March 2014 08: 22
        all the same there half of the fleet "on pins" should be allowed, what is the museum that should be made of it
        1. +7
          11 March 2014 08: 39
          You are an intelligent person! Why write nonsense! Even if the Black Sea Fleet consisted of one boat from the Titanic, it is not its quality that is important, but the very fact of its existence!
          God give us to resolve this situation and
          Quote: Com. T-64a
          Yes, I’m a cross-section for 5 years I agree to eat a golem
          and we will build a new fleet!
          1. +1
            11 March 2014 09: 36
            You do not know for an hour why, since 1942, the Black Sea Fleet (surface part) did not take an active part in hostilities in the Black Sea?
        2. +2
          11 March 2014 09: 23
          It is not necessary to put anything on pins, our fleet and we will modernize it. There is no legitimate government, we don’t recognize this government, we’ll stick all the most modern into our ships and the whole of America will wash off with Europe, and the fleet, as it was in Sevastopol, will stand guard over our southern maritime borders. fool
    2. +2
      11 March 2014 09: 24
      The base is not only a mooring and parking for ships, it is a very complex and expensive infrastructure. Experts have already thought out the option of transferring the Black Sea Fleet from Sevastopol, it’s a little expensive.
  16. shyler
    +6
    11 March 2014 08: 13
    Today we are still waiting for Yanukovych’s speech. I think the meaning of the speech is clear, but the question is whether the Army will listen to it.
    1. +1
      11 March 2014 10: 07
      Quote: shyler
      Today we are still waiting for Yanukovych’s speech. I think the meaning of the speech is clear, but the question is whether the Army will listen to it.


      And it will no longer matter whether America hears or not. I think that something unexpected for the West ...
    2. 0
      11 March 2014 10: 07
      Quote: shyler
      Today we are still waiting for Yanukovych’s speech. I think the meaning of the speech is clear, but the question is whether the Army will listen to it.


      And it will no longer matter whether America hears or not. I think that something unexpected for the West ...
  17. +8
    11 March 2014 08: 14
    All day yesterday I watched video clips, watched as Russian troops were gathering in the Crimea, and Ukrainian garrisons were rolling to the border with the Crimea. There were interesting videos regarding UAV surveillance, Ukrainian brothers flew to the Crimea, as I understand it, on the isthmus, to track how Russian troops are deployed. All this reminds, a game of a hare with a wolf ... who is a wolf and who is a hare guess yourself. But the fact that such a quantity of technology is being thrown is not casual. My guess is that the Ukrainian junta wants to carry out such a scenario as the Georgians in 2008. Only the innocent Ukrainian army will suffer in this, and a person can lose and blood can not be avoided. And all this will be stupidly guided by puppets from Kiev ...
    1. +6
      11 March 2014 08: 25
      Only the innocent Ukrainian army will suffer in this


      Behind this ARMY are adventurers from GALICIA .. behind them are the STUPID guys from EUROPE ... behind it there is already a real KUKLOVOD USA-NOW SHOULD EXPECT COMMANDS IN ATTACK .. as fools and those who believe in sweet speeches will go forward after EUROPE numerous victims will begin VACHANALIA of accusations of RUSSIA and perhaps the introduction of some more serious sanctions

      In general, this scenario is understandable, we need a reason to isolate RUSSIA on an international scale,

      FORUMAN express your version of future events.
      1. +6
        11 March 2014 08: 48
        I think the same. All ways to persuade Russia are over. And Ukraine itself is needed in parts by few people, but it is needed in its entirety in the form to which it is.
        A military provocation can only do trouble for both sides, but the thirst for revenge of the new government of Ukraine to Crimea overshadows their reason. Moreover, they themselves will not go on the attack.
      2. +3
        11 March 2014 08: 56
        I'm afraid that this is not about
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        isolation of RUSSIA on an international scale

        This task is no longer relevant. It seems to me that the goal is to sow chaos and devastation in Russia, with the subsequent dismemberment into a handful of pro-Western states in which the word "Russian" will become a dirty word.
        These guys, in my opinion, do not believe that for most Russians this scenario is WORSE worse than death! Let God understand this until the point of no return is passed!
      3. +3
        11 March 2014 09: 34
        The same LEKHA (1 In general, this scenario is understandable, we need a reason to isolate RUSSIA on an international scale hi a little isolation is only for the benefit, agriculture can work! tired of chem. products !!!
    2. +1
      11 March 2014 10: 30
      The leadership will be from the Pentagon
  18. +2
    11 March 2014 08: 16
    They are no longer interested in a peaceful solution of the issue. By agreeing with the Kiev "authorities" about something, they are simply playing for time, and the "authorities" have disappeared from the country so as not to remain extreme. The needles were deliberately handed over to radicals, so as not to be extreme later ...
  19. +4
    11 March 2014 08: 16
    Crimea should be taken according to the results of the referendum clearly, no matter what, no matter what sanctions exist, when Crimea becomes Russian, then the sanctions will drop, because Europe will be in chaos and it will definitely not be in Ukraine. Here the whole cycle and everything is tied up, it is better without Crimea the Crimea will go to Russia and everyone will be fine, anyway Ukraine will not feed him.
    1. +8
      11 March 2014 08: 51
      Crimea must be taken in any case. You have heard the words of Konstantinov: "and don’t give us to anyone else." These are the words of a man who gave at least half of his life for the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation. After these words, it seemed to me that Konstantinov did more for the reunification of Crimea with the Russian Federation than anyone else.
    2. +2
      11 March 2014 09: 27
      Soon the stolen "needles" will get to Europe, then there will definitely be a good kipish. laughing
  20. +5
    11 March 2014 08: 18
    Judging by the Ukrainian TV channels, we are .... f, and complete, they are already helped by the US sanctions that the blockade of Leningrad is a resort, the Natsyks bring the light of democracy, but these Russians still want to be servants of Putin.
    1. +2
      11 March 2014 09: 32
      As soon as it’s hot, the Ameri warriors will immediately hit the road and leave Banderlogs and their minions to their own devices. Most importantly, they have already stolen the gold reserves of Ukraine to maintain their green candy wrapper, and then even the grass does not grow.
  21. +3
    11 March 2014 08: 18
    when Crimea becomes Russian, then sanctions will begin to fall away
    ,
    Not so simple ... THIS PROBLEM WITH MANY UNKNOWN ...
  22. +3
    11 March 2014 08: 21
    We hope everyone understands that the referendum has been postponed and will be held in the near future.
    Why - it’s understandable in connection with NATO’s military aggression on the territory of Crimea.
  23. +4
    11 March 2014 08: 23
    Now the State Department will do all the tricks and tricks to disrupt the referendum! Do not take on faith all the threats, screeches and their empty promise !! I can say one thing: the stronger and worse the screeching and hysterical Washington the more correctly we do everything !!))) And we are all good that they are like death! Their political doctrine is crumbling and that the world cannot be unipolar under the mattress flag!
  24. +4
    11 March 2014 08: 25
    It’s strange why they still haven’t arrested and tried in the Basmanny Court, and then you can exchange it for Buta and the rest, illegally held by the US regime, and our special services?
    1. +1
      11 March 2014 10: 29
      It’s strange why they still didn’t arrest Sahak.

      So I’m always tormented by the question Why are we (Russia) always so deprived? Maybe we should admit that there aren’t those people in the country's leadership who really need it, those people who could defend the honor of the country and citizens punishing crooks of thieves and embezzlers. When Catherine II was such an incident, an impostor appeared in Europe, as if the sister of her husband Ekaterina (I don’t remember exactly) So she was stolen by attracting a whole fleet, played a whole performance for a long time and when the greed of the impostor prevailed and she succumbed to persuading the fleet she was stolen and put in a fortress Shlusimburg what Catherine said because of one impostor had to use the entire fleet.
      1. +1
        11 March 2014 10: 58
        Quote: nemec55
        impostor appeared in europe

        Princess Tarakanova!
        1. DMB-78
          +2
          11 March 2014 11: 16
          Quote: Egoza
          Princess Tarakanova!

          like this one? laughing
  25. ed65b
    +7
    11 March 2014 08: 25
    I can’t believe that the new authorities of Ukraine will send their boys to the slaughter. They understand that this will be a massacre without options. Well, do not defeat them, Russia, do not win. And the GDP warned that one shot and the whole gang are automatically become war criminals. Avaks along the borders, let them fly, do not worry. A war of nerves. he who is stronger in spirit will win. Amers would simply not do anything stupid in words, then they would not be able to get out of the situation without loss, in any case, they had already lost. Putin will not give up and he does not seem to give a damn about the world’s image. The country is more expensive.
    1. +5
      11 March 2014 08: 45
      My comrade, a retired SBU officer, said today that his colleagues, still serving in the SBU, were declared to be carrying out criminal orders and were forced to write reports.
      Everyone! And that there is a quiet mobilization. Well, the time of Ch is known.
      1. +1
        11 March 2014 10: 15
        What region?
    2. +3
      11 March 2014 09: 12
      All right but
      Quote: ed65b
      I can’t believe that the new authorities of Ukraine will send their boys to the slaughter.

      The most terrible thing is that they do not consider those guys whom they will send to the slaughter!
      And from our side (as in all conflicts) our best guys will participate, the color of the nation!
    3. +3
      11 March 2014 11: 01
      Quote: ed65b
      I can’t believe that the new authorities of Ukraine will send their boys to the slaughter.

      That's it! They will not send their boys, in the sense of their children! But strangers - easily !!!
      1. DMB-78
        +1
        11 March 2014 11: 21
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: ed65b
        I can’t believe that the new authorities of Ukraine will send their boys to the slaughter.
        That's it! They will not send their boys, in the sense of their children! But strangers - easily !!!

        and they will not send new authorities, nothing depends on them
  26. +8
    11 March 2014 08: 27
    That is morally a mustache.
  27. Kodar 75
    +3
    11 March 2014 08: 28
    Quote: Weniamin
    Something in the text I did not see the proposal for the United States in Ukraine. In my opinion, the content of the article does not match the title.

    Ordinary mortals do not understand. And such serious things do not solve in public. I am sure that any blather and other insolence there, "behind a big puddle", will be answered by our authorities.
  28. +6
    11 March 2014 08: 31
    Quote: Igor39
    I would like to hear what they suggested the USA, in an informal setting winked
  29. +5
    11 March 2014 08: 38
    Quote: ed65b
    I can’t believe that the new authorities of Ukraine will send their boys to the slaughter. They understand that this will be a massacre without options. Well, do not defeat them, Russia, do not win.

    Do not hesitate, they will send and force them to fight, they do not expect to win themselves, the main thing is to start so that NATO, which is just conducting exercises in the right place, could intervene
    1. Platov
      +1
      11 March 2014 11: 24
      Will NATO suit us without a flight zone over the outskirts?
  30. +2
    11 March 2014 08: 40
    how to get to Sevastopol now? who knows?
  31. Kodar 75
    +4
    11 March 2014 08: 40
    Quote: sibi
    And what can Putin say to Obama? Just this!

    And Lavrov will add angry
  32. +2
    11 March 2014 08: 41
    But when the three-hundredths fly to Poland to be treated, after a collapse, then probably Psheks will howl from these non-democrats
    1. 0
      11 March 2014 15: 42
      Quote: Coffee_time
      But when the three-hundredths fly to Poland to be treated, after a collapse, then probably Psheks will howl from these non-democrats

      I think that the Poles will not be alarmed for Bendera, they themselves have suffered a lot from them and prefer to maintain neutrality. They can promise, regret, but nothing more.
      They are about their (80 ~ 120 thousand) Polish heads, cut off Shukhevych & ko remember.
      We also remember.
  33. +2
    11 March 2014 08: 44
    Quote: saag
    Quote: ed65b
    I can’t believe that the new authorities of Ukraine will send their boys to the slaughter. They understand that this will be a massacre without options. Well, do not defeat them, Russia, do not win.

    Do not hesitate, they will send and force them to fight, they do not expect to win themselves, the main thing is to start so that NATO, which is just conducting exercises in the right place, could intervene

    If from memory, then in Yugoslavia NATO fell out with tanks to attack the defense of our landing, there like Evkurov commanded. Now what are they bolder?
    1. +2
      11 March 2014 08: 58
      And why not dare, they do not move tanks and strike from the air
  34. +5
    11 March 2014 08: 45
    I think Putin, as in the issue of Syria, will try to save Obama’s face. But there really aren’t so many options and proposals. The main question is a legitimate government that will arrange most (if possible), the next step is an agonizing economy, and getting out of the financial peak . They will find how to make sure that all this is resolved without major losses. The question of Ukraine will be resolved. Territories ... This is not so simple. But it’s also solved. Crimea and Donbass let us and the West let them grieve hl !!!!
    1. +3
      11 March 2014 09: 04
      Quote: super-vitek
      save face obama

      Obama says a lot. And this is his misfortune; he leaves no room for maneuver
    2. 0
      11 March 2014 15: 46
      Quote: super-vitek
      I think Putin, as in the issue of Syria, try to save Obama’s face

      Obama himself does not really understand who in Ukraine shares what and with whom.
  35. +4
    11 March 2014 08: 48
    Quote: Kodar75
    And such serious things do not solve in public. I am sure that there will be a worthy response from our authorities to any blather and other insolence there, "behind a big puddle".


    For any blanks already exist and blanks are not empty. We are already starting to get used to the fact that GDP is silent and its silence is not good for the West and the USA. Maybe I’m not right, but I think that for cunning Western diplomacy, the GDP has already prepared a screwed screw. Wait and see.
  36. +2
    11 March 2014 08: 52
    America said that the Outskirts are the mistress of Crimea and everyone should freeze in deep pardon, those who disagree should be shot, for this they fostered nationalists and others like them, objections are unacceptable, Russia decided to contradict, so the shouts and the mass media "elite" Russian chirped to please the owners, referendum 16, and on 14-15, provocations or the start of hostilities will begin provoking the cancellation of the referendum and the start of a full-scale war with the involvement of NATO members - this seems to me a very likely scenario for further actions.
  37. +4
    11 March 2014 08: 53
    The failure of the US gunboat diplomacy over Syria, and earlier over Egypt and other outbreaks of the "Arab Spring" forced Washington and Brussels to organize a big dirty trick on Russia's doorstep in Ukraine.
    Everything went according to their plans, Putin was silent and they clapped their hands on the Maidan.
    But they slammed their ears when the unsteady land under the Black Sea Fleet suddenly suddenly became primordially Russian territory.
    The territory of the Russian Crimea.
  38. qwertynsan
    +4
    11 March 2014 09: 12
    And Crimea should be part of Russia anyway. They have no other way. They just won't forgive the "right sector".
  39. Gagarin
    +1
    11 March 2014 09: 14
    The most convenient layout for the trinity. We kinda got involved in our native land, but we can’t - help NATO!
    I think the negotiations were not in the Crimea, but on a possible clash. (so DON'T GIVE GOD Ya.O. DO NOT INTERFERE)
    Quote: saag
    Do not hesitate, they will send and force them to fight, they do not expect to win themselves, the main thing is to start so that NATO, which is just conducting exercises in the right place, could intervene
  40. +7
    11 March 2014 09: 14
    Today at a press conference in Rostov, Yanukovych in the presence of observers and the press will sign V.V. Putin's General Power of Attorney for the right to represent his interests in all state institutions of Ukraine with the right and duties of the President of Ukraine. Until complete recovery, so to speak.

    Like the news, Mr. Kerry.
    1. +2
      11 March 2014 09: 32
      Quote: vorobey
      Today at a press conference in Rostov, Yanukovych in the presence of observers and the press will sign V.V. Putin's General Power of Attorney for the right to represent his interests in all state institutions of Ukraine with the right and duties of the President of Ukraine

      Sanya, are you joking right now or are you really annexing the whole of Ukraine?
      Hi hi
      1. +2
        11 March 2014 09: 38
        And here is the annexation. Count this option and stupor among Western diplomats.

        And the power of attorney has a deadline. or you offer unlimited. Only Khrushchev threw gifts. laughing
        1. +1
          11 March 2014 09: 43
          Quote: vorobey
          Count this option and stupor among Western diplomats.

          Clearly, in short, banter. I then thought that "their" people from the FSB gave you the text of Yanukovych's statement to tihushka. I wanted to ask for a read, but you killed my hopes sad
          Quote: vorobey
          And the power of attorney has a deadline. or you offer unlimited.

          Ukraine is part of Russia, and it is possible to move a horse. Russia is part of Crimea wassat
    2. DMB-78
      +1
      11 March 2014 10: 04
      Quote: vorobey
      Today at a press conference in Rostov, Yanukovych in the presence of observers and the press will sign V.V. Putin's General Power of Attorney for the right to represent his interests in all state institutions of Ukraine with the right and duties of the President of Ukraine.

      and GDP will generously refuse laughing
  41. Yaromir
    +1
    11 March 2014 09: 15
    Do not make yourself and everyone around you laugh, Americans do not have such a concept as diplomacy - their diplomacy is a threat, a dull expression on their face and a Colt in their pocket, and this is the whole set of diplomatic influences. In the Russian Federation, historically, the most thought-out and sophisticated diplomacy, as a rule, gives the desired result, and it is not for nothing that Putin said in his recent interview "a diplomat needs language to hide his thoughts" - we are good at it.
  42. +4
    11 March 2014 09: 23
    Oh doubt, I'm starting! Judge for yourself -
    Putin has already stated that the Russian Federation is NOT going to annex Crimea
    Yanukovych's speech (past) - like "I'm still alive, I'm legitimate"
    Statement of Crimea - we will agree when the power changes in Kiev
    Today will be a statement by Yanukovych
    The referendum was postponed to March 16, and the EU is ready to sign with Ukraine the political part on the March 17 or March 21 association !!!!
    Yatsenyuk's impudent statement - Russia should cancel a referendum in the Crimea.
    Entering troops "from all sides"
    XXXX
    There is NO TIME ALREADY !!! I believe that it is possible that Yanukovych will fully engage as a legitimate president and FORCE the US and the EU to retreat to restore order. The Crimean referendum will be considered "as needed", but in any case, Crimea will receive a VERY large autonomy, i.e. in fact, it will be in the Russian Federation, and de jure in Ukraine (and no one has ruined the integrity!) It will be the same with the South-East.
    And then here the SBU is already urgently investigating 16 separatism cases.
    1. +2
      11 March 2014 09: 36
      Quote: Egoza
      Putin has already stated that the Russian Federation is NOT going to annex Crimea

      Elena, when did he say that?
      Quote: Egoza
      Statement of Crimea - we will agree when the power changes in Kiev

      And when she changes there laughing
      Quote: Egoza
      Today will be a statement by Yanukovych

      Komment Sparrow is higher, although he may be kidding wink
      Quote: Egoza
      Yatsenyuk's impudent statement - Russia should cancel a referendum in the Crimea

      Let Yatsenyuk tell what and how much Ukraine owes Russia.
      Quote: Egoza
      And then here the SBU is already urgently investigating 16 separatism cases.

      SBU from Crimea and Russia bolsoooofellowhi hello tongue
      1. +4
        11 March 2014 10: 07
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Egoza
        Putin has already stated that the Russian Federation is NOT going to annex Crimea
        Elena, when did he say that?


        Putin is not going to add anything. Will connect the will of the people. Mother-in-law also shouted at first we Crimea we do not need Russia. And now the brains are in place.

        A friend just left for Ukraine yesterday. Deputy military commissar. He says he went to organize mobilization. And then, after all, the military commissar shouts faster, come to me, adequate officers are needed and not Bender’s henchmen. Damn at the birth of vodka really did not even give a drink. two days in total.
        1. +1
          11 March 2014 10: 19
          Quote: vorobey
          And now the brains are in place.

          You set a shovel winked
          1. +2
            11 March 2014 10: 31
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            You set a shovel


            No issued a second warning. laughing
            1. 0
              11 March 2014 10: 47
              Quote: vorobey

              No issued a second warning

              I know this joke from life bully
    2. +2
      11 March 2014 10: 08
      Quote: Egoza
      Putin has already stated that the Russian Federation is NOT going to annex Crimea

      When did he say he was not going to?
      He said that everything should be decided by the people and correctly said.
      The acceleration of the referendum, of course, for no reason. We still don’t know the situation to the end.
  43. Leopold
    +4
    11 March 2014 09: 24
    storming a dig is unthinkable without artillery preparation and support from the sea and air. Benderyans no longer have support from the sea - ships are locked in their bays. From the air they can only show the appearance of presence and no more. Heavy equipment if it goes - so the first lined boxes will block the passage to everyone else.

    All that remains is a peaceful demonstration with batons and cocktails. But there is no longer Maidan and barricades on the other hand. And nobody is going to restrain anyone.
  44. +3
    11 March 2014 09: 26
    The fact that there are proposals and will be sent to the United States for consideration is certainly not bad. But centuries of experience shows to establish a peaceful dialogue with America and the West, you need to keep a good club.
    For example, the United States forcing Russia to officially sanction such a club, and unofficially pulls NATO troops to the borders and promises to support the military provocation of Bandera in Crimea to disrupt the referendum.
    Russia must necessarily consider a set of retaliatory measures, starting with economic and energy sanctions, which are also many and ending with the expansion of military cooperation in the field of missile defense, missile and aviation technologies with those countries that the United States sees as potential adversaries. First of all, China, Iran, Venezuela, and possibly North Korea.
  45. DMB-78
    +2
    11 March 2014 09: 37
    and when will sasha get tired of throwing money away on such adventures? is history badly taught to them? Or a rake all the time different? I don’t understand ... laughing
  46. +1
    11 March 2014 09: 38
    It is necessary to bring more forces to the borders of Crimea, even in violation of the agreement of 94g. Then the referendum will calmly pass. NATO members do not stick up, Natsik only can shoot unarmed.
  47. +2
    11 March 2014 09: 40
    Putin is very cheerful and does not look like a suicide bomber! And if so, all the moves were calculated (including the armed confrontation), and not yesterday they started to prepare for this! Well, our opponents had to improvise because we took them by surprise. Russia would not start then what I couldn’t finish, the stakes are too big!
  48. Bowless
    +1
    11 March 2014 09: 42
    Ava as you imagine, if Putin and others are silent and puff in holes. It is necessary to imitate violent activity in solving problems, to waste time, to pull out public opinion. The game of fool is a Russian game.
  49. DMB-78
    +1
    11 March 2014 09: 43
    that's how they prepare for the layman
    1. +2
      11 March 2014 10: 48
      Khabalka, with Ek's lowest damage
  50. +1
    11 March 2014 09: 56
    Quote: Leopold
    storming a dig is unthinkable without artillery preparation and support from the sea and air. Benderyans no longer have support from the sea - ships are locked in their bays. From the air they can only show the appearance of presence and no more. Heavy equipment if it goes - so the first lined boxes will block the passage to everyone else.

    No one has support from the sea, from the air the Black Sea Fleet 20 Su-24 plus Mi-24, well, from the Krasnodar Territory, Ukraine can put up MLRS and barreled artillery, they have something there on the track, BUKi, Avaxa are hanging NATO, plus the fact that they will be able to fly through the air, so you needlessly think that they can’t do anything there, shoot how much they can on both sides and burn up their armor and drop it from the air
  51. +2
    11 March 2014 09: 56
    Crimea will not come back, the bridges have been burned. Sahaka puts forward a proposal, but does not calm down bully .
    1. DMB-78
      +2
      11 March 2014 10: 19
      Quote: bomg.77
      Sahaka puts forward a proposal, but doesn’t calm down

      he needs revenge
      1. +1
        11 March 2014 13: 33
        he needs revenge


        The question is why? For a chewed tie or a torn ass??
  52. +2
    11 March 2014 10: 02
    "An earthquake with a magnitude of 6,9 occurred in California. The threat of a tsunami was not declared. Experts recorded the tremors at 9.18 Moscow time."
    Yesterday was the first day during the conflict in Ukraine that the United States did not make any statements. Coincidence or not?
    1. +1
      11 March 2014 11: 51
      Quote: Vyacheslav
      Yesterday was the first day during the conflict in Ukraine that the United States did not make any statements. Coincidence or not?

      Here's another news on the topic _
      Russia launched "Snake", starting a cyber war against Ukraine
      http://hitech.newsru.com/article/11mar2014/ouroboros
      The Snake's bite could give hackers "full access to the attacked system." At the moment, apparently, the question is being decided whether to limit ourselves to the theft of information or try to paralyze and deactivate communications, empty the archives and disrupt the activities of the defense apparatus"

      Considering the blocking of lists and documents on Crimea, was it too late to realize this?
      bully
  53. +4
    11 March 2014 10: 15
    People...We need to learn history...even Catherine concluded an agreement with the Ottoman Empire, according to which Crimea could belong to one of the parties. And Russia, as the successor of the Russian Empire, could not give it to Ukraine. So it was Yeltsin who gave Crimea to Kravchuk - out of drunkenness. And the GDP has already done everything right... so let the USA and its sixes go home...
  54. +1
    11 March 2014 11: 11
    They always say on TV that the commander of the motor battalion who was kidnapped(or maybe he himself happily dived into the proposed transport?) and who went over to the side of Russia, and even came to his battalion to agitate to go over, was drunk, committed an accident, and therefore ran to surrender to Russia. But his soldiers...only 2 people crossed over (and according to other sources, half the battalion).
    They always say: “Former President Yanukovych” - I’m interested in listening to our TV when Yanukovych returns! laughing
    1. +1
      11 March 2014 16: 42
      Quote: Egoza
      They always say on TV that the commander of the motor battalion...

      Well, where are they chasing some option? They just ran a story where a stolen person had more than two ppm of Alcohol in his blood and was identified and shamed as a naughty puppy.
      bully
  55. DMB-78
    0
    11 March 2014 11: 28
    Quote: Egoza
    I'm interested in listening to our TV when Yanukovych returns

    do you mean they will return it? laughing hi smile
    1. +1
      11 March 2014 16: 49
      Quote: DMB-78
      do you mean they will return it?

      They would have returned it a long time ago, but someone worthy of returning would not have ended up, like plucked chickens, in such a shameful situation.
      And unworthy, why is he needed in Kyiv?
      In Rostov-on-Don it is more useful, under supervision.
      drinks
  56. Platov
    +1
    11 March 2014 11: 42
    Crimea should be Russian definitely for the boorish behavior of Banderlog on the side of the Russians. So that every mongrel looks around before yapping at Russia. And this is a lesson for everyone ahead.
  57. +1
    11 March 2014 11: 57
    But I have proposals for the United States regarding Ukraine: Let them forget this word.
  58. kelevra
    0
    11 March 2014 18: 10
    The United States flew into a muddy puddle with the announcement of sanctions on Russia, and now they don’t know how to get out of it. Putin, as in the situation with Syria, is trying to save face for the Americans. It seems to me that there is simply no other reason to make contact with such veiled attitudes and explanations Why bother with what is clear to everyone: the United States will not interfere with Ukraine and will not impose sanctions, otherwise it will hit them harder.