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A piece of alien war

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A piece of alien warJanuary two thousand. A few weeks after the New Year. Slushy field in the suburbs of Grozny. I sit on the armor, leaning back to the tower. The walkie-talkie is leaning against the trunk of a KPVT, an automaton is on its knees, an earpiece is on its ear. Near the hatch sticks out drove. It smokes.


So a few hours pass. The battalion commander went to the tent to the regiment commander and has not yet appeared. We do not wait for him, do not miss, do not think about anything. We do not "at all ..." For all for a long time already do not care. Just sit. Just at war. I'm not even cold anymore.

The low overcast sky, incessant rain that had already lifted everyone, the eternal water in dugouts, cold, fog and slush, slush, slush ...
People live in this slush. Several hundred people came here for several hundred kilometers, dug holes in the ground and have been crawling in this clay for several weeks. I look at them from above. Leg hangs from armor.

People are mainly engaged in what they are looking for warmth.

Rumbles a hole. Bonfires are burning under the tracks of beh. Smoke layered on the field. Almost all people are sitting around the lights and plait boxes. Nobody moves, excess movement is excess heat, and it is not enough. Apathy.

The most sophisticated hammocks found and hung them under the broad noses of the BMP. Are sleeping.

The dirty clay-stained technique stands crookedly on the very roofs of the equipment on the ground rolled into a half-meter-high ruts.

A spinner flies and sits. This seems to be the only movement in the world. The pinwheel is also smeared with clay on the very blade.

A kilometer or two can see the houses of the city. Through binoculars you can distinguish several women from one of the entrances. They stand there for a long time, almost without moving. Whether they are talking or not, there is no discernment from here. On one, younger, homemade galoshes of trimmed boots. An old woman in a black scarf.
More than one person. Only black holes of windows and holes in brick walls. Traces of fires and shelling.

In this city, the enemies. They are not visible, they do not shoot, but they are there. They need to knock out and take the city.

Behind the back work "saushki."

If I were asked what most accurately reflects this sad winter slush of the second Chechen one, I would answer - “saushki”. “Second Chechnya” is “saushki”. They are heard always and everywhere, at any point of this war.

Like herds of elephants, they stand in every field and sigh every two to three minutes. A rumble on the ground, an echo in the mountains, then a short lull with the rattle of a hole and foggy cotton in ears and brains, and again a sigh of metal herd, like a metronome, counting the war. A never-ending, scary, methodical and unstoppable metronome. Knocks and knocks - day and night, day and night, for several months now. Every two to three minutes. This is the purpose of the herd's existence - to come to this field, to become and begin to sigh every two minutes. Stand here for several days, withdraw and move to another exactly the same field and start groaning in the same way there, not seeing the results of your sighing. The shot is an end in itself. It does not lead to immediate death. Not a single gunner can tell how many people he killed. No one, passing by a shattered village, can say: "It was me who had ravaged this house."

Near each “saushki” there is a heap of all good lying right in the clay. Stacks of shell boxes, shot brass sleeves, spare parts, empty drawers, whitening on the open insides of boards, clods of oiled paper, headsets. In the midst of this junk, soldiers fiddle around, haul boxes of shells and feed them to the dead elephants, pushing yellow double-banana bananas into the feed.

Most of the gunners are like drove next to a truck stuck in a rut. Only instead of brushwood drag shells. Their faces express nothing. They don't care about anything either. They pull boxes to elephants sigh.

This is how people are killed. As a matter of fact, these dirty soldiers in clay jackets with pounds of mud on kirzacs are now engaged in murder.
I'm sitting on armor. I look at them. We, the technical department, have a certain amount of envy for the gunners - wherever they come, they always have a house. Do not dig holes in the ground and then sleep in puddles - in the tower is always dry. The main thing is to make sure that no one gets hit. And then, like this, after a night march, one kid fell asleep on the breech - if you are a meter with a cap, it is very comfortable to sleep on the breech - and then they declared shooting. At night, the tower is dark, the lighting either didn’t work, or didn’t light it, the gun was already loaded. "Fire, shot." The force of recoil in a howitzer several tons. The guy, they say, rolled it into the sputum.

The pinwheel rises and flies away. When it is frozen, its engines work muffled, it seems that the air wave from the screws is softer.

Five people appear from the bushes at the foot of the hill. They are not dressed like other people in this field. They do not have pea-jackets, light jackets tucked into pants, rubber boots rolled up. They differ from the rest, as experienced walkers differ from beginners - everything on them is intended for comfortable and easy movement through the mud. There is nothing superfluous.

This is intelligence. Returning from Grozny.

Five carry on a sixth stretcher. Immediately it is clear that he was killed.

Everyone watches them climb the slope. They, rising and breathing with their mouth, look at us. As we sit and watch.

When the five come to the top of the summit, where the medical “pill” and the tent of the medical platoon stand, they lower the stretcher to the ground.
Two sit side by side, choosing the least rolled areas. One spreads under a logger. It is evident that they are very tired.

The rest go higher to the headquarters tents.

Having reached the people around the first fire, the group commander throws away on the move, although nobody asks him about anything:
“The Czechs are there in the city,” he points at the houses. - We have one two hundredth.

He has big eyes. Or maybe it only seems to be because he is looking upwards.

Two orderlies appear. Approach a stretcher, squat. One takes out a large notebook in ninety-six sheets, opens it, pulls out a pen. In the notebook table, you can understand that this is a list of losses, most likely, the number, division, name, date, cause of death.

The second orderly pulls off the killed jacket from the shoulder, then the sweater bares the arm. A small pool of thick blood had already formed in the hole under the collarbone. The orderly examines the inlet and says something to the first one. That records.

Then the second pulls the jacket and sweater back, takes the dead man by the wounded arm and turns it over. Picks up a jacket and a sweater on a back. In place of the left shoulder blade, there is a huge hole in two fists, pink blood and white blood clots fall out of it, flops on a stretcher, like jelly, in a large puddle - in a stretcher two liters already.

If the blood flowed in such clots, it means that the artery is killed. Such bleeding is very difficult to stop.
I think I smell it - the smell of fresh meat, freshness.

The guy doesn’t have a shoulder blade. Fragmented bones are visible, something else is yellow, the ribs seem to be.

Svd. Sniper. Shot the floor from the second or third.

The second orderly says something again. The first one looks at the torn shoulder and writes.

The hand for which the medic is holding the dead man is unnaturally delayed, it seems to come off. The hand is big, muscular. The back too. It is evident that the guy was powerful, very strong physically.

He is put back on his back, again pulling the sweater, jacket.

Backing up to the stretcher, the medical “pill” creeps up slowly. She rolls on the track left and right, but she cannot get out of the rut.
Drove jumps out of the cab and goes to open the rear doors. Having opened, it remains to stand next to the car, looks at the victim and at the orderlies.

The two remaining scouts still sit side by side, do not take any part in the action, do not look at anyone.

The first orderly, with a book, takes the soldier of the deceased from the scouts and leaves. The second bandages begin to tie the dead jaw. Then he folds his arms over his chest and bandages them.

Just a minute ago, he looked unsightly, but - as alive.

Now that the bandage on his head is tied with a bow, he does not look either stupid or funny. He is killed.

Drizzle In the dirt lies a dead man. His cheek is smeared with clay. For some reason, the orderly did not close his eyes, they remained open.

The orderly and the carrier took up a stretcher and loaded the killed into a “pill”. Scouts escort brother. Drove locks the door and goes after the orderly into the tent. The car is not going anywhere. Probably, they will wait for the next one killed or wounded - this guy doesn't care anymore when he is taken to the hospital. Most likely, he will lie so locked up in the car all night, and if there are no killed or wounded by the middle of the day, he will be taken alone.

One of the scouts has already cooled down, steam ceases to flow from it. He starts to shiver.

Appears battalion. Drove into the hatch. The combatant climbs on the armor, puts one foot into the commander's hatch.
“Let's go,” he says.

I pull up my leg, press the walkie-talkie.

Betaer turns around and leaves on a track, rocking like a boat. A piece of someone else's war with a dead intelligence officer in the car is left behind.
Once again, shooting "saushki." Artillerymen sailing past were frozen over the slug drawers, looking after us. I look at them.

* * *

I have never before recalled this piece of someone else's war. Never again was in this regiment. I don't even know what the regiment is. I do not know what it was for the field.
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  1. dFG
    dFG 15 March 2014 08: 58
    +16
    Glory to the guys!
    1. aktanir
      aktanir 15 March 2014 12: 02
      +3
      war in its purest form ...
      1. Artyom
        Artyom 15 March 2014 15: 38
        +9
        put a minus for the name, this war was for the integrity of the state of Russia, if only to the author, this STATE did not seem a stranger!
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 16 March 2014 09: 30
          +6
          Quote: Artyom
          put a minus for the name, this war was for the integrity of the state of Russia,

          which ON, + .-, the boys put soya life, for us !!!!
          It is necessary to wet the animals, like Bandera, EVERYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE, like rabid sabaks((((
        2. StolzSS
          StolzSS 16 March 2014 19: 23
          +4
          You didn’t understand the author correctly, he tried to convey the alienness of what is happening to the human nature ... It’s hard to explain, but in the process this apathy is always with you, and there is also a mine threat, it is with you always and every new kilometer you’ve traveled on armor you feel the taste of life, this thirst to survive, and this incomparable feeling of conquering the space hostile to you ...
        3. Slevinst
          Slevinst 17 March 2014 09: 57
          +2
          maybe he meant someone else's not his but the fact that he saw death from the side, in fact he was sitting and watching others fight
  2. terrible
    terrible 15 March 2014 09: 09
    -30%
    ) some sort of UPADnicheskaya flock, although why the author of that-Babchenko
    1. Kazakh
      Kazakh 15 March 2014 09: 25
      +34
      Quote: formidable
      ) some sort of UPADnicheskaya flock, although why the author of that-Babchenko
      It is really written in the movie that everything is beautiful and clean. You read and as if looking out the window. The author was Babchenko there, and you write your memories, raise our fallen spirit.
      1. StolzSS
        StolzSS 16 March 2014 19: 29
        +2
        As my familiar brainwave said))) You just don’t tell what you tell me at the receptions, let the old woman live ... I’m especially vigorous for raising morale who will tell you something and whether it is worth telling how it was necessary to look for documents in a mishmash of glands and guts and personal belongings of crashed pilots and passengers of turntables ... It’s especially difficult for people like me to drink non-drinkers and sometimes envy the peasants that they get drunk and sleep like dead, forgotten and throwing away nightmare memories .... hi
    2. svp67
      svp67 15 March 2014 09: 47
      +27
      Quote: formidable
      ) some sort of UPADnicheskaya flock, although why the author of that-Babchenko

      You are a fool, my friend ... The author, not just a talent - a talent !!! He was able to convey everything that happens not only in the "outer world", but also "in the inner world of a person" ... I have only one word - BRAVO !!! Oh, yes YOUNG - the new Leo Tolstoy ...
      And judging by last name is the last thing, here people hiding under the name of Ivanov have recently appeared on the sites of darkness, and yet many of them are clear enemies ...
      1. Rosomaha67
        Rosomaha67 15 March 2014 10: 28
        +15
        .... yes I agree with the description "not in the eyebrow but in the eye" - as they say. But regarding the comment "about decadence" - I agree with the commentator, Mr. Babchenko, by the way, recently noted a remarkable article in his LiveJournal, with photographs from the war on 08.08.08. in the photographs, only the corpses of our soldiers who died in that conflict and also "professionally" filmed, very high-quality equipment and, accordingly, all the nuances "after the deadly" appearance of the bodies of our soldiers are transferred with "great talent" - well, the caption to the article is like this - "that's what awaits those Russians who are going to defend the Crimea with arms in hand. " So the vulture is also talented in its business - corpse eating - but that doesn't change its essence - the Vulture !!!!
        1. svp67
          svp67 15 March 2014 11: 06
          +5
          Quote: Rosomaha67
          So the vulture is also talented in his work - carnivore -

          You know, I watched one of his video reports.
          http://www.osgenocide.ru/168-vojjna-v-juzhnojj-osetii-89-fotografijj.html
          I HAVE NOT FOUND - confirmations of your words ... It just shows the TRUTH of war, YES - with corpses, but not our soldiers, but civilians, Ossetian militias and Georgian soldiers, YES - with BLOOD, with wounds on the bodies of our soldiers ... who disdain, do not look, but people should know the truth, war, first of all, is death and blood ...
          But for such a report about Budanov, I would just shake his hand, silently ...
          Yuri Budanov is a killer? Yes. Should he be judged? Yes. To judge as judged? No not like this. In any case, not by the court of such a country - a country indifferent, forgetting its soldiers, forgetting that a war is going on in it, stealing, fattening, etc., etc., as it seemed then
          How to judge?
          I dont know. I have no answer.
          Nevertheless, sitting at Yuri Budanov’s house and looking at his notes from the war, I caught myself thinking that I would like to have such a regiment commander. I saw the soldiers looking at him, and these looks spoke of everything. As well as the fact that he was not given to the investigation almost before the use of weapons. Already realizing that he killed. Already knowing that he had beaten his lieutenant.
          Also a dilemma, the answer to which - at least in civilian life - I also do not have. The shaman, now referred to in the context of the “war criminal”, was the best military commander under whose command I served. I would like to see Budanov as my commander. My chief of staff, who in the Moscow Region, before sending the regiment, tied it to the lattice of the weapons room and ridiculed a conscript soldier for not wanting to write a report on voluntary dispatch to Chechnya, in the war he became the best chief of staff I know.
          1. IRBIS
            IRBIS 15 March 2014 13: 42
            +9
            Quote: svp67
            My chief of staff, who in the Moscow Region, before sending the regiment, tied it to the lattice of the weapon room and ridiculed a conscript soldier because he did not want to write a report on voluntary dispatch to Chechnya, in the war he became the best chief of staff I know.

            H (M) he is an asshole, the biggest, not the chief of staff! Moreover, not an officer! Think about the phrase - "... for the fact that he did not want to write a report on the voluntary dispatch ..." Tied the soldier, su and beat? He would have tried to tie and "shake off" one of my Marines, so I would neigh!
            What the hell, in general, to admire the pathological scum, which, sitting in the headquarters, show their "valor" on the soldiers? Into such trenches, into the trenches! To storm the five-story building, and to clean up the basements! To diarrhea in the thighs! Officers, children of perestroika, "Masyani", their mother ....
            1. sPS
              sPS 15 March 2014 14: 05
              +3
              I read about the chief of staff ... I remembered my urgent about the same thing and with me how I hated this officer and the army ... then I became an officer myself but that incident always remembered and the most interesting thing was that everyone went to Afghanistan and this one remained to prepare a new call recourse
            2. svp67
              svp67 15 March 2014 21: 40
              +2
              Quote: IRBIS
              In the trenches of such, in the trenches!

              You seem not to have read it, a little ...
              My chief of staff, who in the Moscow Region, before sending the regiment, tied it to the lattice of the weapon room and riddled the conscript soldier because he did not want to write a report on voluntary sending to Chechnya, in the war he became the best chief of staff I know.

              I support here only THOSE THOUGHT that people in PEACEFUL ENVIRONMENT and WAR, OFTEN are VERY VERY DIFFERENT, or rather, very different ...
              1. IRBIS
                IRBIS 17 March 2014 10: 48
                0
                Quote: svp67
                You seem not to have read it, a little ...

                I read it, but the chief of staff in the trench is an unprecedented beast! In the most shitty situation, he sits in a kunga, but in general - in warmth and under guard. There is nothing wrong with it; NS is the brain in the first place. However, when his attitude to the soldier in peacetime is bestial, then when planning military operations this attitude does not change.
      2. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 15 March 2014 13: 51
        +9
        Quote: svp67
        The author is not just a talent - a talent !!! He was able to convey everything that happens not only in the "outer world", but also "in the inner world of man" ...

        Absolutely to the point, Sergey.
        The author managed a lot ... I even remembered what smell a person has inside ...
        And dirt ... dirt is the first thing that comes to my mind. In the liver was.
        Such articles are also needed.

        Thanks to the author for this story.
    3. Dikson
      Dikson 15 March 2014 09: 53
      +6
      war is mud, guts, and a * shuffle. If you are not a staff rat. Everything is very correctly written. See for yourself on the Internet.
      1. Mite27
        Mite27 15 March 2014 20: 24
        +3
        That's for sure, it’s a pity that the smells of war cannot be conveyed either in the cinema or in literature.
        1. StolzSS
          StolzSS 16 March 2014 19: 34
          +4
          It will be very difficult for you to sleep later. They are very specific. The burnt man of normal people causes vomiting gusts until you get used to turning inside out several times ... So I think it would be better if these smells bypassed our women and children, I hope you understand me correctly. hi
    4. valokordin
      valokordin 15 March 2014 13: 39
      +4
      Quote: formidable
      ) some sort of UPADnicheskaya flock, although why the author of that-Babchenko

      Yes, it’s sad, but why the article is called a foreign war, that this warrior fought for a foreign country, or if it was necessary to give Chechnya to Bandera, so they fought there.
    5. Fox
      Fox 15 March 2014 15: 55
      +5
      Quote: formidable
      although why the author of that-Babchenko

      I would read his books, boy ... he went through two wars. He knows what he writes.
    6. Retribution
      Retribution 16 March 2014 12: 24
      0
      the well-known Benderish magazine magazine Babchenko, recently noted in LiveJournal with his statements that he will shoot Russians
  3. Myth
    Myth 15 March 2014 09: 54
    +9
    Dear author Arkady, a very literate literary language, but the devil Arkash, he is in the details. What are you talking about, what kind of warrior does a scout have in combat search?
    1. svp67
      svp67 15 March 2014 10: 24
      +4
      Quote: Myth
      What are you talking about, what kind of warrior does a scout have in combat search?
      From the "company commander's or foreman's casket", as I understand it, the guys did their job honestly and to the end, how much it took - so much came, they brought their comrade to their unit, and there already ... and the military ID and people who already know what to do next ... Read, rethink and understand that war is, first of all, dirt, fatigue, blood ..., and only then everything else.
      1. StolzSS
        StolzSS 16 March 2014 19: 37
        +1
        I don’t even know, but I remember it with the cold, the intestines of others, the stench of burnt meat, the dirt of which can not be washed and longing for those who did not return ....
  4. terrible
    terrible 15 March 2014 09: 59
    -1
    ) and what was. It is clear from his writings that he is scared., not comfortable and wants to go back to his mother))))))))) well, and especially for raising morale.) the principle of the minefield construction in the village of Goiskoye ( 1st Chechen) first there are streamers, mines and land mines. then about 5 meters everything is fucked up, so that the enemy gets into shit)))))))
    1. svp67
      svp67 15 March 2014 10: 08
      +2
      Quote: formidable
      ) and what was. It is clear from his writings that he is scared., not comfortable and wants to go back to mom))))

      And there it’s scary only sometimes, until the moment it comes, some kind of dullness, when all this dirt, lack of sleep, a constant threat to life, other people's deaths, a burden of responsibility - so get that they begin to live separately from your inner world ... Author YOUNG, not everyone is able to lay out their thoughts and feelings, so clearly and with details ...
      1. Spnsr
        Spnsr 15 March 2014 20: 52
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: formidable
        ) and what was. It is clear from his writings that he is scared., not comfortable and wants to go back to mom))))

        And there it’s scary only sometimes, until the moment it comes, some kind of dullness, when all this dirt, lack of sleep, a constant threat to life, other people's deaths, a burden of responsibility - so get that they begin to live separately from your inner world ... Author YOUNG, not everyone is able to lay out their thoughts and feelings, so clearly and with details ...

        fearfully?!!!
        fear is a physiological phenomenon accompanied by trembling, nausea, sweat, inspired by any negative thoughts. in the state described in the article, a person does not experience vivid emotions, I doubt that he was thinking about anything at all, rather he was an “observer”. and something akin to fear arises later, after a military contact, if a person catches the excitement of a fight, which may contribute to his survival. then trembling, nausea and sweating occurs, this condition is especially pronounced at first ...
        1. Dikson
          Dikson 16 March 2014 19: 45
          0
          this feeling is called dullness .. or detachment from everything that happens ... "this is not happening to me now, this is not with me, I am far away .."
    2. Massik
      Massik 15 March 2014 20: 24
      +3
      We arrived at the ROP with a commission on an accident, we were sitting by the helicopter, the order to the crew not to leave the car ... It got dark, the gunner wanted "big", I say - "Get out behind the bushes on a fast ..." two and I "went". In the morning, the ensign comes in and inquires about business, mood, etc. At the end of the conversation, he caught himself - "Guys don't go to those bushes, everything is mined there on (x) ren!"
  5. Tankist_1980
    Tankist_1980 15 March 2014 10: 00
    +2
    Quote: formidable
    ) some sort of UPADnicheskaya flock, although why the author of that-Babchenko

    Have you been there? There is no fun there ... How to describe the death of a scout ???
  6. Tankist_1980
    Tankist_1980 15 March 2014 10: 05
    +8
    He himself served in the 2000m in Saushki. Dirt ... Cold ... They burned everything during the night: boxes, diesel fuel and everything they found. You go through the mud, on boots for several kilograms. Otpadet-such ease ... And who is minus the article?
    1. svp67
      svp67 15 March 2014 10: 19
      +9
      Quote: Tankist_1980
      And who is minus the article?
      Who sees the war from TVs and computers ...
  7. Tankist_1980
    Tankist_1980 15 March 2014 10: 22
    +4
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Tankist_1980
    And who is minus the article?
    Who sees the war from TVs and computers ...

    I agree with you. And a generation brought up on computer games ...
  8. Tankist_1980
    Tankist_1980 15 March 2014 10: 25
    +3
    I appeal to the author. Write more. Do not listen to anyone. Write the truth. Maybe intersect. I'm in Khankala, but based in Shali. Thank! Good luck
  9. terrible
    terrible 15 March 2014 11: 24
    0
    ) you read it, Babchenko Learn. can also penetrate his liberal views)
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 15 March 2014 11: 31
      +4
      Well, the fact that the author is a liberal is evident from the name. Well, it can be worse ... Even the banner of the Victory over the Reichstag was hoisted twice, a second time for newsreels ... We are not discussing the author’s personality, but the story itself?
  10. terrible
    terrible 15 March 2014 11: 26
    -5
    ) The article is aimed at particularly impressionable muscular young ladies
    1. svp67
      svp67 15 March 2014 11: 31
      +2
      Quote: formidable
      ) The article is aimed at particularly impressionable muscular young ladies

      And you just write about YOUR feelings in the war ... Compare.
      1. terrible
        terrible 15 March 2014 11: 59
        +2
        ) Alas, the bear stepped on the ear)))))) but there was definitely no apathy. rather a feeling of impatience) like we are standing, we are winning, beat the bastards.
      2. Spnsr
        Spnsr 15 March 2014 18: 01
        +5
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: formidable
        ) The article is aimed at particularly impressionable muscular young ladies

        And you just write about YOUR feelings in the war ... Compare.

        This is not a foreign war.
        the author described his feelings very colorfully, but besides the apathy described by the author, it also happened that after several days of climbing through the winter forests, everyone was cursed, after the next discovery of a group of militants, the boys, conscripts, with tears in their eyes, shouted at the commander trying to adjust the fire of those very sausages, “don’t do it, come on yourself, let’s tear the commander.”
        the author colorfully described his feelings, but he did not describe what the scouts felt at that moment.
        each has its own vision, I’m sure that those scouts didn’t react to this the same way, it’s their war, they took revenge not only for their comrade, but also for those whom they did not know in life, but fate had to take part in. .
  11. Tankist_1980
    Tankist_1980 15 March 2014 11: 31
    +2
    Quote: formidable
    ) The article is aimed at particularly impressionable muscular young ladies

    Calm down !!!
    1. terrible
      terrible 15 March 2014 12: 08
      +2
      but I don’t calm down) it is necessary for people to open their eyes that the devil is in the details.) they didn’t write to the Second World War. They did not try to cause fear. literature inspired.) Yes, what is there WWII -Lermontov read.
  12. parus2nik
    parus2nik 15 March 2014 11: 43
    +7
    War is not a stranger ...
  13. Tankist_1980
    Tankist_1980 15 March 2014 11: 48
    -2
    Quote: formidable
    ) The article is aimed at particularly impressionable muscular young ladies

    Calm down !!!
  14. terrible
    terrible 15 March 2014 11: 50
    +4
    War is not a stranger ..--- that's for sure
  15. stranik72
    stranik72 15 March 2014 12: 12
    0
    Quote: dfg
    Glory to the guys!

    Quote: formidable
    ) some sort of UPADnicheskaya flock, although why the author of that-Babchenko

    This is WAR in all its abomination, and this is neither "glory" and "decay" it is just the path of a person whose lot the war fell on, our ancestors also felt and saw the war in the Second World War, and even earlier on the Kulikovo field, it's just the first In turn, dirt is secondarily death, and victory is just a derivative of the fortitude of the spirit and professionalism of the soldier. And all the rest of the weapons, etc. this is an addition to this. Rest in peace to this deceased scout and thanks for the article.
  16. Tankist_1980
    Tankist_1980 15 March 2014 12: 22
    +1
    Quote: formidable
    but I don’t calm down) it is necessary for people to open their eyes that the devil is in the details.) they didn’t write to the Second World War. They did not try to cause fear. literature inspired.) Yes, what is there WWII -Lermontov read.

    I read ... Zhilin and Kostylin ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 15 March 2014 12: 28
      +1
      Quote: Tankist_1980
      I read ... Zhilin and Kostylin ...

      It is written by Tolstoy ...
  17. rezident
    rezident 15 March 2014 12: 53
    +1
    Yes, probably so. Mud cold constant fatigue and blasphemy here and there.
  18. Tankist_1980
    Tankist_1980 15 March 2014 12: 56
    0
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Tankist_1980
    I read ... Zhilin and Kostylin ...

    It is written by Tolstoy ...

    I know. Wrote as an example. And Lermontov has the same truth about the war, not bravado ...
  19. Black
    Black 15 March 2014 13: 11
    0
    Why "someone else's war", did not understand ...
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 15 March 2014 13: 26
      +1
      that’s why terrible and calls the author a liberal ..
  20. Technologist
    Technologist 15 March 2014 13: 41
    0
    War as it is, detachment from everything.
  21. Lyton
    Lyton 15 March 2014 13: 57
    0
    At the previous work with which I quit six months ago, there was a guy, like a corporate person and he talked, he served in the first Chechen or second sau, he says he didn’t come out of it six months figuratively speaking. Dolby sometimes good, he says they went into positions, they shot back, after a day the general arrives, shakes hands with each other, it turns out that the gangster’s gangway was unmasked, the field commanders came to consult, and wouldn’t know what they did.
  22. Brandashmg
    Brandashmg 15 March 2014 14: 25
    +4
    Babchenko writes well. I read all his works at the art of var.
    But after his trip to the Maidan and reports where he paints the heroism of the "Maidan" and "breathes the air of freedom", rejoices at the set fire to the militia armored personnel carrier, etc. My attitude towards him as a person has changed a lot, although I am not personally acquainted.
    1. hummel83
      hummel83 17 March 2014 12: 50
      0
      He has always been like this - his works are negative but does not descend to the category of those who write about the Second World War in the style of "not trained soldiers with one rifle for two, and behind the barriers a detachment with machine guns and shoots them in the back"
  23. Tankist_1980
    Tankist_1980 15 March 2014 14: 27
    +2
    Quote: Lyton
    At the previous work with which I quit six months ago, there was a guy, like a corporate person and he talked, he served in the first Chechen or second sau, he says he didn’t come out of it six months figuratively speaking. Dolby sometimes good, he says they went into positions, they shot back, after a day the general arrives, shakes hands with each other, it turns out that the gangster’s gangway was unmasked, the field commanders came to consult, and wouldn’t know what they did.

    Eh ... Meet your colleague. I am from Saushniki and have been awarded with me.
  24. tds-8_78
    tds-8_78 15 March 2014 15: 03
    +2
    Eternal memory to the lost brothers ..
  25. 416D
    416D 15 March 2014 16: 04
    +1
    Authors credit for the story, the real realism of war
  26. Tankist_1980
    Tankist_1980 15 March 2014 17: 00
    0
    Thank you for the story! But what the author expresses on the Internet and asks for money .... No. We don’t get involved!
  27. terrible
    terrible 15 March 2014 17: 50
    0
    ) "Purgatory" I hope everyone looked. what kind of reaction does it evoke in the viewer?
  28. Prometey
    Prometey 15 March 2014 18: 55
    0
    And why did the 7,62 bullet crush the entire blade? Was it explosive?
    1. tracer
      tracer 15 March 2014 19: 39
      +8
      "Explosive" bullets were not in service with the Soviet and are not massively in the Russian army. Maybe they were somewhere, but they were not in the troops. All the legends about explosive bullets are most often legends. In this case, this is most likely a solid bullet with a steel core 7,62 / 54 would have pierced the fighter through and through without much visible damage. If there was no body armor. But about him, the bullet is strongly deformed or defragmented, scattering like shrapnel. If there was no vest, only a 5,45 / 39 caliber bullet could leave such a wound. It was her handwriting. It begins to twist in the body after 7-10 centimeters from right to top to right and stands perpendicularly. The bullet nose bends or breaks off and it starts to rotate like a meat grinder. The wound channel looks like a funnel filled with a meat-and-bone mixture directed in the opposite direction from being hit. I am sorry for the details. But the war, who has ever seen it with their own eyes, is mortal fatigue, dirt, cold, wet clothes, a desire to sleep and .... the sour smell of gunpowder is everywhere.
      1. Prometey
        Prometey 15 March 2014 21: 37
        0
        Quote: tracer
        If there was no vest, only a 5,45 / 39 caliber bullet could leave such a wound

        The text was written that SVD. SVD is calibrated for 7,62. And bullets of this caliber did not seem to cause such extensive injuries? Although the doctor during the examination could be mistaken what
        1. I think so
          I think so 16 March 2014 00: 36
          0
          In the Soviet army there was a cartridge 7.62 with an explosive bullet. Such a cartridge was used to train artillerymen on a specially equipped training ground with small houses and mock-ups of tanks and everything that happens in reality, but only small. Such a cartridge was loaded into a machine gun mounted somewhere higher on a special machine simulating an artillery gun carriage. Well, the spotter gives commands, and this machine gun turns almost like a real gun and shoots. At the small training ground there are gaps and you can adjust the shooting on them, teach the rules of shooting. Therefore, explosive cartridges for 7.62 in the army were, I do not know about their quantity in warehouses, but physically there were a lot of them.
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  29. egor64
    egor64 15 March 2014 19: 18
    0
    Scout military ID, in search. This is something new. I took off an engraved bracelet and a badge. Something does not fit.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 16 March 2014 06: 07
      0
      he took off his token before leaving, and when he came back he put on a token? and what is the point then of these tokens?
      although I personally did not wear
  30. terrible
    terrible 15 March 2014 19: 54
    0
    ) A military ID with a scout, in search. This is something new. I took off an engraved bracelet and a badge. Something does not fit.) So that's the point. Babchenko P. publishes as Trotsky. Well, he was in the 1st, well, he signed the 2nd contract. but who knows what war is, he knows what fighters are, and there are staff rats. and it’s one thing to climb under the bullets, and another thing to wipe the ass general.
    1. Massik
      Massik 15 March 2014 20: 41
      0
      Babchenko P. publishes as Trotsky. Well, he was on the 1st, well, on the 2nd contract I signed
      You either didn’t really read the article, or you yourself are distantly related to the war and
      publisher
      e ...
      The first orderly - with a book - takes the soldier of the deceased from the scouts and leaves.
      The group returned from intelligence, first what follows ???
      That's right, a report on what he saw and heard, as well as on the condition of the personnel ...
      Then the words "1n 200th" are followed by the question - "Who?" , the answer and the foreman gives the soldier to the comrades of the killed ...
      If you think that they came straight from the intelligence with a corpse on a stretcher, then where did they get the stretcher ??? They dragged with them to the intelligence ???
      1. I think so
        I think so 16 March 2014 00: 42
        0
        The stretchers could be simple two sticks tied with straps or a buttoned overcoat or pea jacket ... It's clear that no one will take a medical stretcher for reconnaissance ...
  31. teascher
    teascher 15 March 2014 21: 29
    +1
    Published in the "Brother" magazine several years ago. And why put it here?
    1. Earnest
      Earnest 15 March 2014 21: 51
      +3
      And to penetrate, then, before the war with the Maydan. And something like a putler was going to fight, and Babchenko wants to breathe longer with the air of freedom. Intimidating ...
  32. Aleks-80
    Aleks-80 15 March 2014 22: 51
    +1
    Alien war? Nearby? Yes, hard, dirt knee-deep, Hard, but the truth is on our side !!!!
    "Tell me, American, what is strength? Is it in money? So my brother says that in money. You have a lot of money, and why? I now think that strength is in truth. Whoever has truth is stronger."
    Pskov airborne troops !!! 98-2000g.
    1. I think so
      I think so 16 March 2014 00: 46
      0
      It is beautifully said ... but ... it often happens - who is stronger at that and the truth ... Winners ALWAYS WRITE A HISTORY ... or rewrite ...
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  33. Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 15 March 2014 23: 53
    +1
    It’s a good article, only a part of people don’t understand it, they were born later and for them this story is nothing more, and for many this life should be remembered forever. Glory to the children and eternal memory ...
  34. msv
    msv 16 March 2014 01: 24
    0
    But I did not like the article. No, everything seems to be true. I didn’t like it. Yes, war is dirt and blood. But there is some senselessness of that war in his narrative. And I can’t agree. I do not know how to explain...
    I did not set a minus or a plus.
  35. Leader
    Leader 16 March 2014 08: 27
    0
    Quote: msv
    there is some meaninglessness of that war in his narrative.

    And war is nonsense ...
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 16 March 2014 09: 56
      +4
      Quote: Leader
      And war is nonsense ...

      If nonsense in the head.
      And for some, the war is to find (get) a "joint" or "bubble". And then, in your free time, to get used to snot or "puff" and forget.
      I do not blame those who were there for this, for many it was a shock to get into such a "batch".
      Most often, fighters fall into such a state as described in the article, from a long stay at the forefront, from wild fatigue and overstrain of the psyche.
      This guilt lies entirely on the shoulders of those commanders who did not take the time to take the soldiers to the second echelon in time, to rest and recover.
      As a result, people simply "burned out" psychologically and fell into prostration, dull indifference to everything around.
      I remember that V. Astafyev in his interview told me that such a state occurs in fighters after 10-12 days of continuous presence at the front line (at least in the Second World War it was).
      But the article shows only one side of the war, but there is another.
      It is a feeling that your colleagues are close and ready to come to the rescue in difficult times, hold them in battle with fire, cover your back, share a piece of your rations and even sacrifice your life for your sake, and you are ready to do it all for them.
      This feeling, albeit small, but victory when you together successfully completed your task in battle and gave the enemy the teeth (and he retreated in front of you, or remained lying away, having left for another world).
      This is the understanding that if you leave, then all this nightmare will happen tomorrow at the threshold of your house. And therefore, we must end it here and not let it go any further.
      And it is for this that you are ready to sit in this slush until you have enough strength, to eat a shitty cooked and already cooled "tarpaulin" (or whatever comes to hand) once or twice a day, to sleep in fits and starts on every rustle, to stomp through the mud, snow and anything in any weather, tinker with the technique preparing it for battle in the field, and then go into battle on it. And do many other urgent and necessary things.
      If only this nightmare does not appear near the threshold of your house.
      Isn't that why there were those who stayed for "overtime" and signed repeated contracts. Or, after a short respite in civilian life, they returned to duty.
      Personally, I am very grateful to them for this, and you?
  36. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 16 March 2014 10: 55
    +2
    The harsh prose of war.
  37. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 16 March 2014 12: 31
    +2
    Very vital. A very precise emphasis on the fact that war is, first of all, dirty and hard work, from which after a while you begin to get dull. From fatigue and loss, all emotions die and there is only stupid indifference and the desire to save one’s strength (warmth).
    It reminded me of "Vanka company", but here the syllable is more accurate and not so globally horrible.
    The author is a well-deserved plus.
  38. hummel83
    hummel83 16 March 2014 22: 59
    0
    Minus one. Why drag it here. What the author does not see, who? - His articles on the conflict 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX - in general, chernukha. It’s like reading articles about Chechnya attributed to Nemtsov or Pashka Filkingramer. Or the history of the Second World War from Rezun and Solonin
  39. Moskva-7
    Moskva-7 16 March 2014 23: 03
    +2
    famous propaganda Babchenko

    but even he could not hide the reasons why the second Chechen was won with the same soldiers with the same weapons with minimal losses

    “Second Chechnya” is “saushki”. They are heard always and everywhere, at any point in this war.

    I don’t know what Babchenko found special in the field and in the mud, apparently he was one of those who passed this stage of military work and immediately went unprepared for war, but this is certainly not his fault.

    Today Babchenko’s fault is that he is trying to demoralize his readers with his texts, while distorting the historical truth that After Khasavyurt, Russia gave Chechnya full independence, she forgave the genocide of the Russians (because of which the first Chechen one began), but Chechnya not only did not want to become an independent state (she received money for pensions and benefits from the Russian Federation regularly), but also attacked Russia (the first fights of the second Chechen began in Dagestan)

    So, for every Russian, this war was DOMESTIC, and only for traitors today she is ALIEN

    Do you know who this is?

    http://www.autoreview.ru/archive/2006/21/ugon/1024/russ.jpg

    This is a traitor, a hero who passed the Great Patriotic War, but this did not prevent him from becoming a traitor.

    Babchenko is not the first and not the last traitor.
  40. hummel83
    hummel83 17 March 2014 12: 54
    +1
    So the previous post in which I expressed my attitude to the author was minuscule. I repeat: the author is a liberalist and gan ... n. - In order not to be unfounded - read his vysery about the war in South Ossetia. Or here is his g ..- but from the freshest:
    http://arguendi.livejournal.com/837671.html
    Negative ...
  41. gunman
    gunman 18 March 2014 09: 59
    0
    Arkady Babchenko is a type of Rezun, I don’t know only a traitor or an elf.
    https://www.facebook.com/babchenkoa/posts/463943983705840