The evolution of Western rhetoric about the reaction of Russia to the Ukrainian events

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It is extremely interesting to observe how the reaction is shown by representatives of foreign political elites, as well as the world media on the situation in Ukraine. In this case, of particular interest here is not just the reaction itself, but also its dynamics, to which particular attention should be paid.

So, immediately after the Federation Council enabled Russian President Vladimir Putin to use the Russian Armed Forces on the territory of Ukraine in connection with the events taking place there, the so-called world community fell into real hysterics. Newspapers and magazines were overwhelmed with headlines that there was - the aggressive behavior of Russia, the desire to suppress the peaceful democratic process, to trample the desire of the Ukrainian people to live by European canons. More than others, overseas political elites and the media practiced in anti-Russian rhetoric. American and Canadian readers, viewers, users in their comments in the materials in the media were indignant about the "bloodthirsty Putin."

However, as the famous proverb says, everything flows, everything changes. And more and more often in Western circles, the reaction to what is happening in Ukraine and to the statements of the Russian authorities about the Ukrainian vicissitudes is much more restrained. No - cries and cries about “Russia - the aggressor” have not disappeared anywhere, but a) they are significantly less, b) many publications have started to put these words in quotes.

The German world-class publication "Der Spiegel" after numerous publications that Russia violates the sovereignty of Ukraine, unexpectedly for many came out with the title:

The crisis in the Crimea: the nationalists incite the Crimean Tatars to terrorism.


At the same time, in a number of other German editions, articles appeared in which the authors recall the agreement between Ukraine and Russia that the Ukrainian territory can hold up to 25 thousand Russian military at a time, and now this number is no more than 15 thousand.

It would seem that the material does not look sensational, but for us it is for Russia. For the overwhelming majority of Europeans, the treaty on the military presence of Russia in Ukraine is more than a full-blown sensation. Indeed, the aforementioned majority of citizens of the European Union countries for understandable reasons about the existence of such agreements between Kiev and Moscow, as they say, have never heard of, and therefore were an excellent object for information manipulations in the format “Russian troops invaded the Crimea”, “suffocation of Ukrainian democracy” and In the same vein ... Thanks to "Der Spiegel", "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung", "KlagemauerTV" and other German (and not only German) media Europe and the world against the background of seemingly hopeless anti-Russian propaganda are beginning to see completely different r Ani current situation around Ukraine.

To understand that the rhetoric of the West is beginning to experience an important transformation, it is worth looking at the pages of the American edition of The New York Times. 8 March of this year on the pages of this publication comes out an article by Peter Baker, in which the author discusses the situation around the Crimea (the text of the article - here). Baker issues an article that, at the very least, ricochets through the US authorities. The author says that Russia actually reserved the right to respond to a situation in which the United States supported the idea of ​​separating Kosovo from Serbia.

The evolution of Western rhetoric about the reaction of Russia to the Ukrainian events


From the article:
The secession of Kosovo from Serbia drove a wedge between the United States and Russia, which led to a deterioration in relations for years. Washington supported Kosovo’s desire for independence, while Moscow saw in it a violation of Serbia’s sovereignty.


Now, years later, the former Cold War opponents are once again in conflict. This time, Russia loudly proclaims the right of Crimea to secede from Ukraine, while the United States calls the process illegitimate.


At the same time, the author without foaming at the mouth (and foaming at the mouth of events in Ukraine has become commonplace for many overseas authors) suggests that the topic of independence of certain territories, the topic of their transition from one jurisdiction to another is so delicate that consensus and the recipe can not be. Peter Baker mentions upcoming referendums in different parts of the world: it is not only Crimea, but also Scotland, Catalonia, declaring that once the States themselves unilaterally declared independence from Great Britain - they say, “central authorities” no one asked. And if, more than a couple of centuries ago, the young American state was based solely on the opinion of London - what would be its fate? It is unlikely that an independent States would be discussed ...

If, before reading the article of Baker, it is not clear that it was laid out exactly on the pages of the NYT, one would think that one of the Russian publications with a moderate position is writing. But this is an American edition! And this edition, as many people know, can hardly be suspected of a great love for taking into account anyone's interests, except for those directly American. It turns out that this time about the information blockade of Russia, the blockade of its position in Ukraine, the blockade of its interests in the Crimea and in the east of Ukraine is out of the question. Even if those media outlets that have always been distinguished by the anti-Russian stance when looking at geopolitics, publish very restrained and reasoned materials, then is this not a precedent ...
Французская "Le Figaro" comes out with a series of materials in which the "invasion" of Russia in the Crimea appears to readers in quotation marks. Just quotes - and how seriously this changes the essence of the material for people who are accustomed to using Le Figaro as a source of information about world events. In addition, the publication demonstrates frank joy over the fact that, with all Holland's talks about sanctions against Russia, a supply agreement for the Russian fleet "Mistral" both countries did not tear. At the same time, Le Figaro writes that the European Union, unlike the United States and NATO, is not going to impose sanctions against the Russian Federation in terms of limiting military cooperation, and immediately adds:

The intervention (but not the invasion - author's note) of Moscow in the situation on the Crimea peninsula somewhat cooled the hopes of France, but not enough to suspend the execution of contracts.

And then, as if to justify their position before the gentlemen of the North Atlantic Alliance:

ships to Russia will be delivered without weapons ...


As they say, no comment.

Nobody wants to lose the Russian market - the publication of “Figaro” - as one of the examples.

Interesting is the position and a number of European and American ex-politicians. It was the ex-politicians (if the politician can even be the former), as many of those who are now in power, apparently, are forced to maintain a clear line of restraint in Russia. But the former politicians can afford to express their personal, unbiased opinion, based on objective information.

Ex-President of the Czech Republic Vaclav Klaus said recently that the situation in Ukraine in the form of an acute political crisis was provoked by the United States of America and the European Union. At the same time, Klaus noted that many episodes of the script in many respects remind him of what the West realized in his time in Yugoslavia.

Vaclav Klaus in Brno:
The people of Ukraine do not deserve to play with his country like that. All this reminds me of Yugoslavia 20-year-old. I am afraid that Western Europe and the United States have put their hands on this, supporting the demonstrations that were in Ukraine.


Frankly, he does not understand why the United States sharply criticizes the position of Russia in Ukraine (in the Crimea) and the current policies of the West. One of them - a member of the US House of Representatives Ron Paul (by the way, he also has his own prefix "ex" - he is an ex-candidate for the role of presidential candidate from the Republicans from the Republicans).
Words Ron Paul quotes RT:

Is it for us to lecture about the violation of sovereignty? But what about the sovereignty of Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, North Africa? We constantly climb into other people's affairs - ours fly in Pakistan Drones, we have 130 military bases in 800 countries around the world.


I do not like hypocrisy. We preach one thing and at the same time, for some reason, we misty all the water behind our backs.


In this regard, it can be argued that the West to suppress Russia in terms of information every year becomes more difficult for the simple reason that in Western countries there are people who understand that the confrontation with Russia is only due to the fact that the United States wants to strengthen unipolar world, bite into his teeth, at least, non-constructive.
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  1. ReifA
    +28
    11 March 2014 10: 12
    I think the change in the degree and tone of publications comes from the realization that Crimea was, is and will be Russian, therefore the ground is being prepared, approval, in the eyes of voters, to deviate from militant positions, to recognize the fact of the future secession of Crimea.
    1. +31
      11 March 2014 10: 54
      I used to read a foreign press - quit. Cheap anti-Russian propaganda worse than Ukrainian zomboyaschik. A mixture of hypocrisy, lies and poison - pah.
      1. +2
        11 March 2014 15: 24
        And what does the foreign press have to do, they just translate articles, not about maniacs, should we read with you ... ???
      2. +2
        11 March 2014 19: 31
        Quote: SHILO
        Cheap anti-Russian propaganda worse than Ukrainian zomboyaschik.

        It is what it is. request
        Do not put a scarf on each mouth, although Russia tuday, etc., works.
        The main thing is that the "authorities and the army of our God-protected country" are not "zombified" and everything will be in order.
    2. +18
      11 March 2014 10: 55
      It seems to me that hard-headed managers both in the states and in the EU, with a creak began to understand that Russia is not so wild (yes, we are still wild in their eyes, like since the Middle Ages when the wild Slavs washed in the baths every week, and " enlightened "Europe died of the plague because I washed once a year) like Tuaregs in the vicinity of Libyan Tripoli, and bawdy here will not work ...

      It’s necessary to fight .... That's just not very hotz ....

      And just like that, you can't cut the back, they are progressive people bring "democracy" to everyone - and how is it suddenly in the bushes at the sight of "barbarians"? ...

      So they connect the media in the sense that they would create the necessary "environment" to turn on the back - they say our (European and US) popular consciousness supports the position of Russia, and since we have "democracy" we (the EU and the states) listen to the opinion of our peoples ...

      You look at our "liberal" media, too, the rhetoric is changing (the order came from the west) ....
    3. +2
      11 March 2014 12: 20
      Quote: ReifA
      I think the change in the degree and tone of publications comes from the realization that the Crimea was, is and will be Russian

      The West IS NOT INTENDING to fight for Ukraine ... now they are just preparing public opinion ... otherwise Urya and Urya are attacking, and, as a result, Crimea is Russian ... Nations may not understand ...
    4. +3
      11 March 2014 15: 50
      Quote: ReifA
      I think the change in the degree and tonality of publications comes from awareness

      It’s just that the Dark One is several levels higher than the notorious Western puppet politicians, that even Obama from Barak should already remember the words of the great helmsman Mao: "Wind from the East prevails over the wind from the West"
      1. DMB-78
        +7
        11 March 2014 20: 52
        Well, to the previous portrait
  2. Marisat
    +13
    11 March 2014 10: 18
    But you definitely need to wait for some kind of setup. I can’t believe in honest impartiality.
  3. Oleg Prophetic
    +15
    11 March 2014 10: 20
    So they always have double standards, we can’t let them. And because they are getting smarter that they need Russian resources
  4. +22
    11 March 2014 10: 21
    and in 2008 in Ossetia, too, that Russia did not pour in, what was not blamed !! after a year everyone reconciled and calmed down !! the situation here is the same, the only difference is that now Russia cannot retreat nowhere !! and we will lose face, and we will give slack and we will abandon our people !! the road is just ahead !! calm down !! and rhetoric will change anyway! you can't hide the truth !! and today she is behind the Crimea .... for Russia!
    1. avg
      +12
      11 March 2014 11: 45
      Quote: psychologist
      and in 2008 in Ossetia, too, that Russia did not pour in, what was not blamed !! after a year everyone reconciled and calmed down!

      On us and for Afghanistan and for Transnistria, for Chechnya, for Yugoslavia, for the orange Ukraine and for Georgia, it rained down, even when Shevardnadze was rescued from the Abkhaz, and it rained down. This "outrageously progressive humanity" likes everything only when everything is crumbling. We need to stubbornly bend our line, explain it to the world, but not really bother with all these attempts to teach us life.
      1. +6
        11 March 2014 14: 32
        Absolutely correct! No matter how the dog barks, the caravan goes on. It is necessary to take an example from China, but China (it is huge and scary), even small Israel does what it wants without particularly bothering with the cries of neighbors and non-neighbors. Calm, only calm. Olympian calm! And spit from the balcony to the geyropu with its gay manners and especially to the United States.
      2. +1
        11 March 2014 14: 32
        Absolutely correct! No matter how the dog barks, the caravan goes on. It is necessary to take an example from China, but China (it is huge and scary), even small Israel does what it wants without particularly bothering with the cries of neighbors and non-neighbors. Calm, only calm. Olympian calm! And spit from the balcony to the geyropu with its gay manners and especially to the United States.
  5. +6
    11 March 2014 10: 31
    Accessibility of information plays both ways, because now hysteria cannot continue for a long time. Note that all scandals have a short duration and are quickly replaced by others ...
  6. +22
    11 March 2014 10: 31
    I have one desire, that neither the EU nor the Americans come out of this situation dry and even if they dry out over time, the smell of urine was not a mile away, but the whole world.
    1. +3
      11 March 2014 12: 37
      Everything secret is ever becoming apparent. The West is losing influence, it is less and less trusted in the world. Even among them, more and more are seeing. Everyone will not understand in any way that the ray is to live in peace with everyone, than the whole world is against them, and everything goes to this.
    2. DMB-78
      0
      11 March 2014 19: 37
      Quote: mountain
      the smell of urine was not a mile away, but the whole world.

      no longer urine, stench
  7. +11
    11 March 2014 10: 39
    By the way, about US independence, Russia saved America twice two times .. During the war, independence, Catherine II of England did not give soldiers, moreover, did not allow England to organize an economic blockade of the struggling states .. And our fleet’s campaign against the US shores during the civil war , prevented the entry into the war on the side of the southern states, England and France ..
    1. +2
      11 March 2014 17: 10
      Right, Russia warmed an overseas snake on her chest, and now such an adder has grown.
  8. +35
    11 March 2014 10: 50
    All this fuss with beating oneself with the heel on the forehead and "tearing the vests" is all in favor of the poor, Russia is not Iraq, not Iran, not Afghanistan, not Libya, not Syria, here the level is higher, here you can get good change ", many European" partners "have already understood this and are trying in every possible way to" reverse gear ", we do not take into account the marginals like the Poles or the Balts, and it is not they who are doing European politics, but apparently the Germans are already approaching the" Ukrainian issue "more than restrained.Well, but the "free" European press ...
    Napoleon fled from the Elbe and landed on the coast of France.
    One metropolitan newspaper screamed:
    - The Corsican monster has landed in the bay of Juan!

    Napoleon, collecting supporters, took the first city.
    “The ogre goes to Grasse!” - warned the newspaper.

    Napoleon continued to advance successfully. The newspaper informed:
    - The usurper entered Grenoble!

    Napoleon was approaching Paris, and therefore, to the newspaper’s editorial office:
    - Bonaparte occupied Lyon ...

    Napoleon came even closer to the newspaper:
    - Napoleon is approaching Fonteblo!

    And finally, when the capital was within reach, the newspaper informed its readers:
    - His Imperial Majesty is expected today in his faithful Paris!
    1. +7
      11 March 2014 11: 17
      Beautiful thank you!
  9. +11
    11 March 2014 10: 56
    Peter Baker, standings! No, well, it’s necessary - remember how illegitimate the United States was at one time from the most legitimate British Kingdom laughing good
    Probably, the United States should repent for its depressingly illegitimate behavior that led to the greatest loss of life (war for independence) and redeem its shameful imperial past by returning to the fold of the English race laughing Yes
    1. +2
      11 March 2014 12: 56
      and shoot yourself with the whole collective farm ... Although not. Those who have the honor and conscience are shooting,
  10. +3
    11 March 2014 10: 58
    When we decided to use the armed forces, it was necessary to apply immediately. And now every day it gets worse and worse. Another second week and it will be too late. And this miss will cost us thousands or even tens of thousands of lives and possibly in our territory. The West can be set to 5.A to be good and not get it here and there. The military-industrial complex must be immediately filled up with orders otherwise we will ..... This slip can still be fixed. And the divisions and armies in our armed forces must be urgently restored within a few weeks. In the meantime, it is unkind to help Ukraine in the fight against the Nazis and restore its status.
    1. +18
      11 March 2014 11: 28
      I put a plus sign for the general vector of thinking. But it seems that obtaining permission to use the troops was received, it is not strange, just so that it was not necessary. This is such a not-so-subtle hint of very thick circumstances. In fact, the war with Ukraine is only if the situation becomes hopeless. The people, after all, not everything is so clear and transparent. Well, with anyone ....., but to fight with Belarusians or Ukraine ...... damn, well, not hotz in any way, disgusted internally. Or do you think that the troops will come in, they will quickly kill the Natsiks (they probably have a mark on their foreheads) and that’s all, hooray, victory? YES WILL NOT BE SO!
      Therefore, the use of aircraft in this case is an extreme measure. But so far there is no need. In general, I think in the coming week the moment of truth will come ....
      1. +2
        11 March 2014 12: 56
        Quote: arane
        But it seems that obtaining permission to use the troops was received, it is not strange, just so that it was not necessary.

        In my opinion, this was already obvious - permission to use troops on the territory of Ukraine was obtained to demonstrate Russia's resolve, and not to unleash military operations there. And the use of armed forces there will be only in the most extreme case, when there will be no other option.
    2. 0
      11 March 2014 15: 06
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      In the meantime, it is unkind to help Ukraine in the fight against the Nazis and restore its status.

      What status are you going to restore? The status of a hostile Russia pro-Western state?
  11. +6
    11 March 2014 11: 04
    All this rhetoric, it seems to me, is due to the fact that in Europe they were very down when they saw how it could end, if you continue to spin the hate flyer even among your so completely duped inhabitants.
  12. -Patriot-
    +4
    11 March 2014 11: 26
    And if we support Scotland in September? There will be a howl ...
    1. +2
      11 March 2014 11: 30
      Quote: -Patriot-
      And if we support Scotland in September? There will be a howl ...

      there will not be .there is a girlfriend. it's not even ireland
  13. +1
    11 March 2014 11: 29
    Mistral and so should have been without weapons. NATO weapons do not suit us. Moreover, they want to arm them to the teeth
    1. wax
      +3
      11 March 2014 12: 07
      Why selective sanctions? NASA will interact, .. The Mistrals will give ... No, since such a booze has gone - cut the last cucumber, and then we'll see who gets the first hangover. More will come for pickle.
  14. +4
    11 March 2014 11: 42
    It is dangerous to bend the spring further and further. When she jumps out ... lol And she must jump out, this is the law.
  15. +5
    11 March 2014 11: 50
    The reaction of Western politicians is understandable, they have long been promoting the idea of ​​playing the Ukrainian card against Russia. There is nothing to say about the press, they will write and say anything. But it becomes more difficult to speak on a united front, people who can tell the truth, or at least part of the truth .Russia should go about their business, not too bothering with the reaction of the Western press. Let them get a shit, they earn money like that.
  16. +6
    11 March 2014 11: 55
    hmm .. yesterday I watched the series "Wild West" (about the colonists' development of California), and so it shows very well how the Anglo-Saxons adhere to agreements and what journalists are like (about these in the last episode). It was even somewhat surprised how such a film was released in the United States.
    And we are the same Indians for them, and they will do exactly the same with us.
  17. Kapitan Oleg
    +2
    11 March 2014 12: 03
    Quote: ReifA
    I think the change in the degree and tone of publications comes from the realization that Crimea was, is and will be Russian, therefore the ground is being prepared, approval, in the eyes of voters, to deviate from militant positions, to recognize the fact of the future secession of Crimea.

    It seems that this is not the point, but the fact that the West can really do nothing with Russia, and does not want to lose markets, therefore, the rollback of the press is needed in order to justify the "surrender" of Ukraine to Russia in the minds of Western readers.
  18. +5
    11 March 2014 12: 06
    Guys, I don’t want to spoil your mood, but so far it turns out like this: We got the Crimea, but lost the rest of Ukraine. In fact, at the moment, the southeast is commissioned. The protests are flimsy there, nothing shines without support. I hope there are some other trump cards.
    1. +2
      11 March 2014 12: 16
      Most likely, we will restrict ourselves to Crimea ....
  19. +2
    11 March 2014 12: 18
    Article +. Will there still be after the referendum! One can only imagine the words that will fall on Russia! The mongrel suffocate from anger and powerlessness!
  20. Leopold
    +2
    11 March 2014 12: 35
    All this, of course, is a drop in the bucket, but Russia Today seems to work correctly in the USA. soldier
  21. +2
    11 March 2014 12: 49
    Europe and the USA began to crush facts with their faces and poke their faces in their own shit 20 years ago (Kosovo), immediately cooled the fervor. All the same, people are not yet and can distinguish some things
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  23. +2
    11 March 2014 14: 11
    I don’t believe my eyes, ears ... have they really arrived. I thought it was tight to think about the prerogative of the Baltic states.
  24. +1
    11 March 2014 16: 25
    It is certainly nice that some in the West are trying to have an opinion that diverges from the official version. But for the most part, former politicians speak out and let many tell me that there are no former politicians, but all the same, others are holding power and their opinions are mildly far from neutral.
  25. Vita_vko
    0
    11 March 2014 16: 50
    Quote: reality
    Guys, I don’t want to spoil your mood, but so far it turns out like this: Got Crimea, but lost the rest of Ukraine

    Moreover, the Russian Crimea will become such a powerful annoying factor for the Bandera government that the rest of Ukraine will turn into a powerful military bridgehead for militants and terrorists of all stripes, so much so that Maskhadov and Dudaev did not dream. And all this is 100km from Moscow!
    1. Russkiy53
      0
      12 March 2014 05: 40
      To the east, it is necessary to support and guard the pro-Russian leaders with weapons and special clothing in civilian clothes; money (not a lot) to organize resistance. (Like, their showdown) :)) the most important thing is to ORGANIZE the opposition to the Maidan in the disputed territories ...
  26. +3
    11 March 2014 16: 53
    they were brainwashed for a very long time ...
  27. +3
    11 March 2014 17: 19
    Now I am in Copenhagen, awaiting a flight, in a hotel. The hotel has all the main news channels, of course, the BBC, etc. But Russia Channel is blocked today, just a black screen, why turn on suddenly see =)
  28. +1
    11 March 2014 17: 36
    In order to express myself diplomatically, I will only remind you of the second part of the Eastern wisdom: "... and the caravan is coming!"
    1. +1
      11 March 2014 17: 52
      Russia had to behave this way yesterday.And the West and the EU simply got used to the fact that Russia was constantly muttering something and that was all - no further action.
      But when Russia told the EU and the West: ..... go there yourself and we ourselves know what to do - here the hysterics clearly went and psychosis.
  29. +1
    11 March 2014 17: 45
    It's just funny, first they make a fuss and then they say that: .... oh so we didn’t know and understand everything. As they say they turn one place and leave room for their maneuver. After all, if they say something later, yeah, we thought so .
    Simply put, they conduct politics as a girl of easy virtue!
    But the most important thing is not even that, but how the Russian leadership will behave, whether it will give up on the ass. Because of this situation in Ukraine, ordinary people in Belarus also look closely and draw their conclusions.
    Personally, I for Russia is strong and powerful in every way. good
  30. 0
    11 March 2014 18: 17
    [quote = Oleg the prophetic] And because they grow wiser that they need Russian resources [/ quo [quote = Oleg the prophetic] And because they grow wiser that they need Russian resources [/ quo [quote = Oleg the prophetic] And therefore they grow wiser that they need Russian resources [/ quo [quote = Oleg the prophetic] And therefore they grow wiser that they need Russian resources [/ quote]
    Sui them no hobbies Resources?
  31. +1
    11 March 2014 19: 05
    The article is excellent. Put (+). But here's what I would like to ask: is it really impossible for articles to be viewed for grammatical errors before being published on the site? Otherwise, gross, elementary mistakes "blur" the overall wonderful impression of what you read! I understand that the comments are written by authors who have different levels of education and not all Russian is their native language. This is understandable and forgivable, the main thing is to convey your idea to the interlocutor. But! For a site that has a reputation as a patriotic, it is a matter of honor to speak with its reader in correct, competent Russian. IMHO.
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  34. +1
    11 March 2014 20: 51
    Yesterday I read on the internet that anti-Russian sentiments are growing in America! So faithful road we go comrades)))))))))
  35. DMB-78
    +4
    11 March 2014 21: 00
    ex-deputy of the Bundestag about events in Ukraine
  36. DMB-78
    +3
    11 March 2014 21: 36
    Great Britain called USA axis of evil
  37. +1
    11 March 2014 22: 54
    Quote: Vita_vko
    And all this is 100km from Moscow!

    How much !? Is Crimea located in the suburbs? belay
  38. -3
    11 March 2014 22: 55
    And why does the author delve into the garbage dump of the Western press? Tracks the "dynamics" of the change in the smell of this manure? Some unhealthy and even masochistic enthusiasm drives the author? Well, you dig and dig in this manure ... but no, he also plunges the others into this shit ... And it is well known that the western man NEVER HEARED ANYTHING GOOD AND OBJECTIVE about Russia, HE DOESN'T HEAR, AND NEVER HEARS. And therefore, why should we even pay attention to what is being forced into the narrow-minded brain of the local man in the street? DO WE NEED IT? I doubt it. We need to DO OUR WORK and so that WE WILL BE WELL! And everything else is nonsense! Don't give a damn about the opinion of the mindless western man in the street formed by the Western Goebbels.
  39. Gagarin
    +3
    12 March 2014 01: 18
    Maybe not quite in the subject of the article, but there is no strength to remain silent:
    Immediately after the arrival of the junta, all Ukrainian TV channels received the flag of Ukraine and the inscription in the corner of the screens
    Edina Kraina
    And now after the Crimea two inscriptions appeared:
    United Country - United Country
    LYCEMERS !!!!!!!!!
    Descendants will curse you!
  40. Space
    0
    13 March 2014 03: 27
    Quote: Vita_vko
    Quote: reality
    Guys, I don’t want to spoil your mood, but so far it turns out like this: Got Crimea, but lost the rest of Ukraine

    Moreover, the Russian Crimea will become such a powerful annoying factor for the Bandera government that the rest of Ukraine will turn into a powerful military bridgehead for militants and terrorists of all stripes, so much so that Maskhadov and Dudaev did not dream. And all this is 100km from Moscow!

    Could it be so?
    Crimea after the referendum is part of the Russian Federation. SE regions of Ukraine continue to seek their referendum with the goal of: a) joining Russia; b) greater autonomy and federalization of Ukraine.
    Option A for industrial SE is preferable.
    Fear the appearance of a terrorist beachhead? Well, "it's late son, we got into ..." - he's been there for a long time. Remember where the sniper went to Chechnya to earn money, S U K I.