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Nikita Mikhalkov: the classics foresaw the situation in Ukraine

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The current situation in the Slavic world was foreseen by many philosophers, writers and cultural figures, whom we consider today to be classics. Their statements, quotes, thoughts collected and voiced in his program director Nikita Mikhalkov. © "Vesti" Internet newspaper "(" VESTI.RU ")
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  1. AVV
    AVV 9 March 2014 10: 03
    +27
    Everything quoted by Mikhalkov on 1000% is true !!!
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 9 March 2014 12: 01
      +13
      I agree with Mikhalkov.
      1. Altona
        Altona 9 March 2014 12: 05
        +20
        Quote: platitsyn70
        I agree with Mikhalkov.

        ------------------------------
        I disagree with Mikhalkov, yes, I agree with the classics ... Especially with Dostoevsky ... And even with one quote from Solzhenitsyn, but he wrote it from everyday experience, and not from ideological considerations ...
        I advise minusants to read the comments to the end and comprehend what the brain reads ...
        1. Mainbeam
          Mainbeam 9 March 2014 12: 55
          +14
          I do not like Mikhalkov. But, damn it, handsome devil.
          Well read. He did this job for us.
          1. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 9 March 2014 22: 47
            +4
            Quote: MainBeam
            I do not like Mikhalkov.

            Do you know a compatriot, Mikhalkov, by the totality of his deeds and achievements, both creative and personal, he himself can choose which of us likes and does not.
        2. valokordin
          valokordin 9 March 2014 13: 20
          -13%
          [quote = Altona] I disagree with Mikhalkov, yes, I agree with the classics ... Especially with Dostoevsky ... And even with one quote from Solzhenitsyn, but he wrote it from everyday experience, and not from ideological considerations ...
          I advise minusants to read the comments to the end and comprehend what the brain reads ...


          I can’t stand this nits, his dad was much better, or seemed. It is difficult to determine his brains, but he redid the anthem.
          1. bomg.77
            bomg.77 9 March 2014 18: 09
            +1
            Quote: valokordin
            I can’t stand this rot,
            hiAt the level of instincts, the same attitude towards him.
        3. Nick
          Nick 9 March 2014 19: 58
          +5
          Quote: Altona
          with the classics, yes, I agree ... Especially with Dostoevsky

          The visionary gift of Fedor Mikhailovich is striking. From our 19th century, see what will happen to us in the 21st ...
      2. zanoza
        zanoza 9 March 2014 12: 14
        +20
        And I agree with Dostoevsky. Well, straight is our contemporary.
        One, one, one, the situation with the current state of affairs in the Slavic world is described.
      3. Rus2012
        Rus2012 9 March 2014 12: 14
        +17
        Quote: platitsyn70
        I agree with Mikhalkov.

        ... agree with the classics. Thanks to Mikhalkov for reminding me at the time!

        There will be a hike ...
        Russians go and the night melts over Russia
        Russians go beloved army to help
        Russians go ahead with hearts of higher standards
        Russians spit on the power of America and Europe


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        2. Duke
          Duke 9 March 2014 12: 47
          +9
          Thanks for Zhanna Bichevskaya.
          1. Kushadasov
            Kushadasov 9 March 2014 18: 27
            +4
            Eternal bow to Vasily Ivanovich Agapkin for this work. It is for centuries. Whenever I go abroad, there is this work in my player. And always, when I listen to him, I think that the people who invented such a melody can never be defeated or broken!

            And as Stalin said - "be worthy of the memory of our ancestors!"
            I think that’s where we stand. At least I would like to believe in it.
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      4. siberalt
        siberalt 9 March 2014 17: 33
        +2
        And what did Mikhalkov say to his? Weather vane knows where the wind comes from.
        1. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 9 March 2014 23: 04
          +3
          Quote: siberalt
          And what did Mikhalkov say to his? Weather vane knows where the wind comes from.

          And about what he wanted to say, Russian geniuses said a long time ago, and as a man deeply Russian and well-mannered, he did not spread his thoughts on the tree and was clever, but quoted to us those people who formed his life position, thereby showing respect for He showed Russian philosophical science and to all of us where to get knowledge about the construction of modern geopolitics. And those who are drooling over Mikhalkov here are simply half-educated, petty dirty tricks, and primitive envious people. yes
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    2. bomg.77
      bomg.77 9 March 2014 12: 02
      +7
      Quote: AVV
      Everything quoted by Mikhalkov on 1000% is true !!!
      I have not watched the film, it is enough to read the "wise men" of Zion and understand what is happening in the world for the last century!
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    4. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2014 12: 21
      +12
      Russia at its core stands and stood guard over culture and nations .. many peoples! We are at the global financial elite like a bone in the throat .. Well, he can’t turn Russia into a society of consumers of stupid eaters of hot docks and Coca-Cola .. We have so many natural resources and small people (140 million ..) all this protects and does not let these creatures so that they plundered everything and destroyed nature ... The spirits of our ancestors are sitting in us who conquered it with our blood and another 20 million .. the souls are looking at us with reproach and hope .. Here are the guys! Are we going to hand over that?
    5. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 9 March 2014 12: 25
      +11
      Absolutely agree! Dostoevsky, Ilyin, Milosevic ... prophetic words.

      This era in the world, which has developed over the past centuries, can be called an attack by a Western beast on Russian identity. Evil for Good.
  2. calocha
    calocha 9 March 2014 12: 06
    +2
    I think Mikhalkov is a servant of Mammon ... Burnt by the sun they say a lot .... Weathervane (fittan) ... He’s a screw of the Liberal Machine ... Like F. Bondarchuk.
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 9 March 2014 14: 25
      +3
      Yes, to understand "Burnt by the Sun" and all Mikhalkov, you will have to learn at least something, watch and read not "Harry Potter" with "House-2" and Daria Dontsova. Any lumpen and homeless person can now sprinkle saliva towards Mikhalkov and Bondarchuk. No effort is required here, but in order to understand and appreciate their work (like any work), you have to study and work yourself.
      1. calocha
        calocha 9 March 2014 15: 15
        +2
        Here is LEARNING !!! A connoisseur of Cultural Decline! I think that distorting the Feat of the People in the Great Patriotic War is a spit in the direction of Veterans (WINNERS)! Blasphemy performed on PEOPLE'S MONEY will come back to these cultural figures .... You know our .... wassat
      2. jjj
        jjj 9 March 2014 17: 33
        0
        In Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad" there is a scene with burning Red Army men running to the attack. Literally yesterday, they documented how the Bandera members burned Khatyn. So, when the barn caught fire, the burning people squeezed out the locked gate and ran into the yard. Then they were shot at
    2. woron333444
      woron333444 9 March 2014 15: 40
      +2
      And I like all his films, because I was born and raised in the USSR, what is better to watch house-2?
  3. andrei332809
    andrei332809 9 March 2014 12: 07
    -1
    goof ... with whom does this shit equate itself? go get it, then I will applaud
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 9 March 2014 23: 23
      +3
      Quote: andrei332809
      . with whom does this shit equate itself? go get it, then I will applaud

      He does not equate himself with anyone, but simply conducts an educational program among people like you. But if you blasted this into his eyes, despite the fact that he is older than you, I think you would have had enough of him to put it in your pants and shut up,
  4. mabuta
    mabuta 9 March 2014 12: 08
    +3
    And all our fault is that they want to eat, (eat until they drop) .http: //topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/825/sgbj377.jpg
    1. Dilshat
      Dilshat 10 March 2014 02: 18
      0
      This is just a national guard. It operates only on its territory.
  5. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 9 March 2014 12: 11
    +3
    The master decided to promote himself. A bastard and an anti-Soviet, he is certainly rare, but not a fool. Go have already conceived a film for the state. withdraw money about the current situation. In the first part of the film, monuments to Lenin will be knocked down for a long time and with gusto and shouting "komunyak on gilyak", and "Berkut" will shoot at unarmed children. In the second episode, he will promise to expose the Nazis and will shoot it for 15 years. It is necessary to investigate the documents and somehow attach the grandson of the "cat" to the case.
    The anti-adviser is ALWAYS a Russophobe, no matter what clothes he is wearing.
    1. avt
      avt 9 March 2014 12: 42
      +5
      Quote: chunga-changa
      The anti-adviser is ALWAYS a Russophobe, no matter what clothes he is wearing.

      It looks like he wants to shoot "sun-fatigue-3". Well, and Dostoevsky, Ilyin .... what can I say? You just need to read and voice it in the media, instead of Dom2 and "Sun-Tired" of all numbers.
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 9 March 2014 13: 38
      +3
      Quote: chunga-changa
      The master

      Nah ... He somehow called himself an aristocrat.
      And to be honest ... That is a complicated attitude towards him: from categorical respect to disgust. A very controversial person ...
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 9 March 2014 13: 55
        +1
        If a person is contradictory, then he is either sick, usually schizophrenia, or somewhere he is telling the truth, unable to resist, but somewhere he is lying for profit.
      2. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 9 March 2014 23: 14
        +1
        Quote: retired
        from categorical respect to disgust. A very controversial person ...

        You would personally meet him, for example at a debate. Who do you think would win? wink
    3. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 9 March 2014 14: 41
      -3
      A rare unity on the forum of people embittered and splashing saliva and bile into talented and long-recognized and respected people. This bile is slowly gnawing at the "Russian patriots" themselves. Actually, a mirror image of the "Natsiks from the Maidan."
      1. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 9 March 2014 21: 23
        +2
        Mr. AVIATOR36662 RU You certainly know better with the top! How are we marginal unwashed (
        Quote: AVIATOR36662
        and salivating and bile in talented and long recognized and respected people
        Here's just a question for you, tell me WHOM has the talented Mikhalkov been recognized for a long time? Don't scratch your turnips, I'll tell you, those very "cultural figures" who curse EVERYTHING Russian on the Rain today !!! Are you one of them? Then it is certainly yes!
        In my opinion, Mikhalkov has only one creation about which it is worth talking about "One's among strangers, a stranger among his own." And there, if you look closely, he is mainly engaged in narcissism. Of course, yes, who would argue and become and color, but is this the task of a talented and a long-recognized director? And all his waves and barbers, for which he killed a sea of ​​people's money, except bewilderment cause nothing!
        I’ve been trying for a long time to understand who needs this? Now I’ll die calmly! I know there are people who like it!
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 9 March 2014 22: 06
          +2
          Quote: dmitriygorshkov
          In my opinion, Mikhalkov has only one creation about which it is worth talking "One's among strangers, a stranger among his own.

          It seems to me that in vain you are so ...
          He took off 3 masterpieces. Definitely.
          1. "Unfinished Piece for Mechanical Piano"
          2. "Five evenings".
          3. "Slave of love".
          It so happens that patriotism, and talent, and an ineradicable desire to show off, and snobbery, and sentimentality can coexist in a person at the same time ... Yes, there is a lot more ... And the more talented a person is, the more varied his "filling" ... And WHAT at some point will take over and come out is unknown ...
        2. AVIATOR36662
          AVIATOR36662 9 March 2014 22: 32
          +2
          I will probably not say anything new if I send a comrade across the Internet to find out who honored the respected Mikhalkov with awards. Both in cinema and in general state ones. If VVP is not authority to someone, then pass. About the "murder of people's money" for "Barber", too, a comrade can be enlightened. There was not a penny of budget money. And that his work (starting with "I walk around Moscow") causes only bewilderment, probably a question for the parents of these narrow-minded comrades. They had to deal with their children every day and instill in them an understanding of everything Russian, read Russian fairy tales every night before going to bed, take them to Russian drama theaters. Then the person would not boast that he is only perplexed by Mikhalkov's works. Someone likes Rocky better. And with this you can live.
          1. dmitriygorshkov
            dmitriygorshkov 10 March 2014 01: 04
            0
            Well, dear Rocky, you can rush about yourself if this is an argument for you! I don’t know, dear about where you come from, but I used to go to the theater and go around. There are a lot of them around. About my parents, you’re completely in vain! Mixed up with a schoolboy? Hmm ... it emphasized your intellect! Not a penny of budget money? Remember dear! In Russia they haven’t made a single film WITHOUT state funding! So for example, the snow in this film is really salt! Many people dissuaded him (Mikhalkov) from this kind of art. Do you want to say with the sponsors' money? Enlightener! No, well, I wonder! And his epic works about the war? Satisfied with the sun 1,2; Citadel, do you think this is all Russian?
            In the Internet, you also need to climb with something in your head. And you don’t need to cover the GDP! In short, communication with you has tired me, bye, bye!
            1. woron333444
              woron333444 10 March 2014 05: 11
              +1
              The weary sun hovered on the Internet, I didn’t watch for a long time, then I watched all the films with my whole family, and for several evenings I had to tear anyone off the TV, respectively, I really liked the film. So do not listen to the Internet, it’s better to see it yourself once
              1. dmitriygorshkov
                dmitriygorshkov 10 March 2014 09: 30
                -2
                I’m very glad that you liked the film, but it’s still not entirely in vain that they threw the people’s money. But it’s actually not on the Internet, how did you get it! Our master, Mikhalkov, from the high tribune of the Union of Cinematographers of the Russian Federation stated that the film designed for the Berlin and Cannes film festivals, and not for the domestic stupid audience (not a quote, but the essence is that!) How do you like it? But Western film academics also somehow did not delight. I will not try to impose conclusions on the correct use of the state. means. You understand everything.
                1. woron333444
                  woron333444 10 March 2014 16: 33
                  +1
                  the most important thing is that this is not a quote, but the fact that he raised an abandoned village, led the way, let it be the owner, but people are happy with it. If in any enterprise the boss is the boss and pays money for the work, and does not plunder the enterprise, then he does not have to walk and hug everyone
  6. Million
    Million 9 March 2014 12: 14
    +1
    Mikhalkov and in this situation
    1. woron333444
      woron333444 9 March 2014 15: 45
      +1
      Someone writes articles or speaks on TV, and someone on the forum
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  8. rumatam
    rumatam 9 March 2014 12: 22
    +2
    Mikhalkov is still a sneak, but he pointed out the essence correctly.
    1. calocha
      calocha 9 March 2014 22: 44
      -4
      He licked laughing test! wassat Aristocratically!
  9. RUSS
    RUSS 9 March 2014 12: 23
    +1
    Quote: chunga-changa
    The anti-adviser is ALWAYS Russophobe,


    Very controversial statement.
  10. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2014 12: 26
    +5
    No need to listen to Mikhalkovs Wassermanov .. Listen to your souls! This one hundred percent truth has always been and will be! The mysterious Russian soul can never be deceived and won.!
  11. RUSS
    RUSS 9 March 2014 12: 38
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN
    No need to listen to Mikhalkovs Wassermanov .. Listen to your souls


    good - You can’t say better.
  12. 1536
    1536 9 March 2014 12: 56
    +1
    We all foresaw what Mr. Mikhalkov would say.
  13. vadimalehin76
    vadimalehin76 9 March 2014 13: 02
    +1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    No need to listen to Mikhalkovs Wassermanov .. Listen to your souls! This one hundred percent truth has always been and will be! The mysterious Russian soul can never be deceived and won.!

    But with the mind, our soul, no one ever understood. For saying bravo. good
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2014 13: 18
      +2
      Quote: vadimalehin76
      Quote: MIKHAN
      No need to listen to Mikhalkovs Wassermanov .. Listen to your souls! This one hundred percent truth has always been and will be! The mysterious Russian soul can never be deceived and won.!

      But with the mind, our soul, no one ever understood. For saying bravo. good

      This is not saying this pain from the soul ..! Yeshkin the cat hurts .. (I would rather express it with obscenities ..))) I think we will break through!
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2014 13: 18
      0
      Quote: vadimalehin76
      Quote: MIKHAN
      No need to listen to Mikhalkovs Wassermanov .. Listen to your souls! This one hundred percent truth has always been and will be! The mysterious Russian soul can never be deceived and won.!

      But with the mind, our soul, no one ever understood. For saying bravo. good

      This is not saying this pain from the soul ..! Yeshkin the cat hurts .. (I would rather express it with obscenities ..))) I think we will break through!
  14. MolGro
    MolGro 9 March 2014 13: 05
    +7
    In unity is power !! Into the separation of weakness !!
    So we will be united and not defeated!
    And obey us even the stars !!
  15. Zomanus
    Zomanus 9 March 2014 13: 10
    0
    In general, Oleg Bobrov predicted all this best in "The Age of the Stillborn." How many years ago. Now you can take, read and boldly make predictions. And Mikhalkov is a bastard.
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 9 March 2014 13: 31
      0
      Quote: Zomanus
      And Mikhalkov and the bastard.

      I wanted to remove it a minute, but it doesn’t work, so someone needs it. I agree with you with the addition of rare.
  16. PValery53
    PValery53 9 March 2014 13: 23
    +5
    A selection is made on the case and hits the nail on the head. Everything is correct. By subtype, the essence of Western women must be buried! Bandera - at the peak !!
  17. valokordin
    valokordin 9 March 2014 13: 28
    -2
    Quote: chunga-changa
    The master decided to promote himself. A bastard and an anti-Soviet, he is certainly rare, but not a fool. Go have already conceived a film for the state. withdraw money about the current situation. In the first part of the film, monuments to Lenin will be knocked down for a long time and with gusto and shouting "komunyak on gilyak", and "Berkut" will shoot at unarmed children. In the second episode, he will promise to expose the Nazis and will shoot it for 15 years. It is necessary to investigate the documents and somehow attach the grandson of the "cat" to the case.
    The anti-adviser is ALWAYS a Russophobe, no matter what clothes he is wearing.

    If you are talking about Mikhalkov, then your opinion is completely true.
  18. kress42rus
    kress42rus 9 March 2014 13: 38
    0
    the highlight is that they want to destroy the Slavs, well, and there, think it yourself
  19. Vyacheslav73
    Vyacheslav73 9 March 2014 13: 56
    +2
    The correct words of the classics and not only ... There shouldn’t be any separation, when we are together, we are power! I know, we will break through !!! Glory to Russia!
  20. Anatolich
    Anatolich 9 March 2014 15: 10
    +2
    Mikhalkov merely voiced the right words of great people, if he agrees with this, he +. But I did not greatly change my mind about him after his words about the introduction of serfdom.
  21. Turkir
    Turkir 9 March 2014 15: 20
    +1
    Nostradamus is no match for Gogol. In the story "Terrible Vengeance", he predicted the future of Ukraine.
    1. calocha
      calocha 9 March 2014 22: 53
      0
      Nastrodamus says such things- they can be applied to everything, like for those astrologers all forecasts are blurred as you want and interpret ....
  22. loginovich
    loginovich 9 March 2014 16: 20
    +2
    As a person Mikhalkov is much worse than his films
  23. Kibl
    Kibl 9 March 2014 16: 31
    +3
    Classics are classics, you can't gobble up, you can't drink! Only I have a lot of doubt that someone from the maydanutyh, if not read, then at least heard about Dostoevsky or Ilyin! Give them "Mein Kampf" !!!
  24. Rossiyanka11
    Rossiyanka11 9 March 2014 16: 35
    +3
    We had to somehow encounter him in nature. We went to rest on the lake, where he has an "estate". A "good fellow" rides past us on a chestnut horse, with a recognizable mustache and voice. Asks us how we rest on "his" land ? The husband answers him with dignity that we are resting on our land, and not on his. Probably surprised that no one ran to him for an autograph. We drove on through the meadows and, as in that fairy tale, I asked about the road and whose meadows are these? -Mikhalkov people answered. So they drove along singing: Marquis, Marquis, Marquis Mikhalkov. Be healthy at his estate! He bought all the surrounding meadows, as well as half of the lake. It is forbidden to take off his stuff, the guards prowl through the meadows on the "tigers". Barin, however! And what he read, many themselves read once, but what is his real attitude to Homeland-question?
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 9 March 2014 18: 14
      +3
      Quote: Rossiyanka11
      I bought all the surrounding meadows, as well as half of the lakes


      Many people with the same income would do the same, I think if you Irina had the same finances and desires, I am sure that you would buy land with meadows and lakes, since now this is not prohibited, at least rent. In addition, Mikhalkov has, as you say, a "estate" in Russia, and not like many commerce and officials abroad.
  25. konvalval
    konvalval 9 March 2014 16: 45
    +1
    Respected N. Mikhalkov for this selection.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 9 March 2014 17: 40
      +2
      The master knows who will be a plus for him, that's why the "selections" are like that. His entire family was fed on selections from the royal table. laughing
  26. ole_ga
    ole_ga 9 March 2014 17: 40
    +1
    Forum users, why is this squabble over personality, is it worth it? Personally, he "stupidly do not care" to me, and his work too. But the selection of quotes is correct, whatever one may say.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 9 March 2014 17: 43
      +2
      He needs to lead a "baby monitor" for children who have not learned to read something from their father's. "Educator", damn it. I opened Dostoevsky for everyone! laughing
    3. Normman
      Normman 9 March 2014 19: 33
      +1
      I saw these quotes in many forums, and I myself quoted them here last week. So he did not discover America.
  27. Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 9 March 2014 18: 12
    +1
    a rare case when a liberal sings in unison with a patriot of the country. This, of course, is good. But the opinion of Mikhalkov Jr. I personally have not changed. Milosevic’s words are very piercing. It’s a pity for a man ...
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 9 March 2014 18: 43
      +1
      Really, we are Russians, we cannot understand our language without "nikitok"? Who used to be called pertrushki, nyushki, yes mikhals? That's right, the servant. An old line of servants. And Fyodor Mikhailovich is from the Dostoevsky family, but not servants. And the dream of all the servants is to become gentlemen. What's wrong then?
  28. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 9 March 2014 18: 16
    +1
    Ukrainians-read the classics, Mine Camph will not lead to a good life!
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 9 March 2014 19: 45
      +3
      When you have been standing on foot all your life, and other people's thoughts are shaking in your head, buy a hat one size larger. I think so. I will never forgive a director for "trolling" the Soviet army in his films like "citadels". Not for the sake of this filth our fathers and grandfathers gave their lives!
  29. Normman
    Normman 9 March 2014 19: 30
    +2
    Quote: AVIATOR36662
    A rare unity on the forum of people embittered and splashing saliva and bile into talented and long-recognized and respected people. This bile is slowly gnawing at the "Russian patriots" themselves. Actually, a mirror image of the "Natsiks from the Maidan."

    An ideological enemy can be damn talented, but this makes him only more dangerous, since disguising himself as a patriot, then a Russophile, or a zealot of Orthodoxy, he smears with his "creativity", distorts and humiliates our history of our ancestors who gave their lives for their Motherland. Do not make yourself an idol!..
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 9 March 2014 19: 50
      +1
      Thanks for your understanding dear! There are already many of us. But for this, it is not proper for some who have lost the "shores of conscience" to advertise on TV as a Russophile repainted under "greenery" with openly mocking and awkward apologies for "unformat". Something like this.
  30. razved
    razved 9 March 2014 20: 55
    +4
    Russian classics are brilliant people !!!!
  31. AVIATOR36662
    AVIATOR36662 9 March 2014 21: 13
    0
    Quote: Turkir
    Nostradamus is no match for Gogol. In the story "Terrible Vengeance", he predicted the future of Ukraine.

    Quote: Turkir
    Nostradamus is no match for Gogol. In the story "Terrible Vengeance", he predicted the future of Ukraine.


    Even our everything is Pushkin A.S. without hesitation, he admitted that N.V. Gogol was a model of Russian literature for him. And a teacher. As they say, read the classics.
  32. Peter 65
    Peter 65 9 March 2014 23: 58
    0
    super super super
  33. spymaster
    spymaster 10 March 2014 01: 10
    0
    Quote: Nick
    Quote: Altona
    with the classics, yes, I agree ... Especially with Dostoevsky

    The visionary gift of Fedor Mikhailovich is striking. From our 19th century, see what will happen to us in the 21st ...

    Nowadays, all life goes along Dostoevsky - the spiral of history is now on the same parallel.
  34. smurnoi
    smurnoi 10 March 2014 01: 37
    0
    Mikhalkov is deeply unsympathetic to me (to put it mildly), but, but ... A quote from F.M. Dostoevsky raises a very interesting topic of "Slavic brothers". Therefore, I consider Belarusians to be Russian in spirit. And the rest ... As history shows, upon gaining independence, they acquire such a government that runs away from Russia like the devil from incense. How it comes out for them is not clear. And all talk about the "Slavic brotherhood" is permissible only at the festival in Vitebsk. The rest must adhere to the benefits for Russia, military, economic, territorial, etc.
  35. Litcedey
    Litcedey 10 March 2014 20: 16
    -1
    Quote: AVV
    Everything quoted by Mikhalkov on 1000% is true !!!

    Quoting F. Dostoevsky, I. Ilyin, S. Milosevic, respected by me, Nikita Sergeyevich Mikhalkov sincerely believes that he is quoting the TRUTH in the last resort? Why not quote L. Gumilyov? Who better than Mikhalkov to know that editing (grabbing out of context) is a whole art, not just in the movies.
    Is it really so simple! Is Russia a treasury of culture, nobility, “maternal” care for Slavic (and not only) brothers, is constantly faced with betrayal?
    I have only one question, if we are so good, indicate the place on the globe - where do they love us?
    There was Serbia, which we sold, there was Belarus, in which we, as an elder brother, took pipes, now, there was Ukraine .... Although, according to M. Zadornov, in the USA, everyone is “stupid”, but they have enough mind not to say that England is their “younger brother”!
    With Ukraine, at all times, traditionally, we acted as a not very smart, narcissistic, short-sighted, and rather boorish elder brother!
    For a person with elementary logic and knowledge of history, it is obvious that Ukraine is not a “younger brother”, and not a “brother” at all, but a “mother”.
    When the president of Russia, says about a millennium-old culture, one should not forget that Moscow is 850 years old, and St. Petersburg is 300, Veliky Novgorod is much younger than Kiev. Cities: Yaroslavl, Vladimir, Tver, Kostroma, Moscow, and others. - Built Kiev princes.
    Entering the Mikhailovsky Cathedral, which is 50 years older than Moscow, I ask myself the question: “Why are the frescoes of this cathedral located in Moscow, in the Tretyakov Gallery? Going to Sofia, I wonder - Why is the icon of the Mother of God of God, not in place? Why is Vladimir Monomakh there, and his cap in Moscow? Etc. etc. Even with the Germans, there is a treaty on “Displaced Values”. What about the “brother” or “mother”? Will we honestly answer this question, or, as usual, ignore it?
    Litcedey
  36. Litcedey
    Litcedey 10 March 2014 20: 20
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    Will we honestly answer this question, or, as usual, ignore it?
    In 1147. Having established himself in Kiev, Yuri Dolgoruky planted his eldest sons from marriage with the daughter of the Polovtsian Khan Aepa in southwestern Russia - Pereyaslav, Turov, Peresopnitsa, Vyshgorod, Kanev. Children from a marriage with the Byzantine princess of the Komnenos' house - Olga, he planted in the north of Russia - in Novgorod, Suzdal and Rostov. The first who understood the futility of his father's efforts regarding the claims to the Kiev throne was his son Andrey (grandson of the Polovtsian Khan), who sat closest to Yuri - in Vyshgorod. Having established himself in Vyshgorod in 1149-1150 and as a father, having no prospects, in 1155, having taken from Kiev the shrine of the entire Orthodox world - the icon of the Mother of God “southerly prince with Pirogosch and Tsaryagrada in one ship and vaskov for more than 30 hryvnias of gold , other silver, other stones of an expensive and great zhumchug; decorate, put you in the church of your holy Mother of God Volodymyr ”, went to the Vladimir-Suzdal lands. This act played a crucial role in the struggle of North-Eastern Russia for the Kiev ideological heritage. In order to justify this act, by order of Andrey, the "Legend of Miracles, now (already) of the Vladimir Icon of the Mother of God" was created, which talks about the fact that the Mother of God did not like in Kiev, and she wanted to Vladimir, where the sacred orthodoxy. In 1164. Andrew built in Vladimir the Golden Gate both in Kiev and as in Kiev he dedicated them to the Mother of God, and also copied the Kiev-Pechora Assumption Cathedral. In March 1169, when he fought with Novgorod in Torzhok, the coalition under the command of his son Mstislav Andreevich, consisting of princes: Gleb Pereyaslovsky, Roman Smolensky, Rurik Ovruchsky, David Vyshgorodsky, Mstislav Toropetsky, Vladimir Dorogobuzhsky. Bringing the Polovtsi, she attacked Kiev. "... for two days robbing the whole city, Podolia and the Mountain, and monasteries, and Sophia, and the Desyatinnaya Mother of God, and no one had mercy on anyone, and took many names ...." Stole symbols of the royal (grand-ducal) power - "Cap of Monomakh" and "barma", they were taken from Kiev to Vladimir.
    In January 1203. Kiev was attacked by a participant in the first robbery of Kiev - Rurik Rostislavovich with the Polovtsy and Chernigov princes. "... take byst Kiev by Rurik [...] and create a great evil in the Russian land, as there was no baptism over Kiev, many misfortunes were over him and many were taken, but not like the current evil was over him: not only did he take the Podolia, but also the Metropolitan Saint Sophia plundered, and the Holy Mother of God the Tithe and all the monasteries, and the icons were stripped, and others were taken, and the honest crosses and the holy vessels and books, [...] then everything was full.
    Using the recommendation of K. Prutkov “See the root!”, We can easily answer the questions - “Who was Yuri Dolgoruky and why was Moscow built?” And why is he “Dolgoruky,” will anyone answer this question?
  37. Litcedey
    Litcedey 10 March 2014 20: 23
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    why is he “Dolgoruky”, will someone answer this question? [/ quote]
    A traitor to his own people, having an abyss of spies, who did not abhor the fratricidal war, bringing death and robbery, twice came to the Kiev throne with the "filthy" and was expelled twice. After another deportation, a military base was laid in the bend of the Moscow, Yauza, and Neglinka rivers to fight Kiev! Is this obvious or not?
    And who lived in these places, before the arrival of the “Longrukovskaya” squad — chud, Yam, Cheremis (Mari), self-monger, Chukhna (Izhora), Meshchera and Murom, etc. Who were the wives of the prince taking as a wife? Who assimilated whom over time? Maybe that's why one of Kozelsk really fought with the Tatars, where the Tatars lost more than 4 thousand, and the rest preferred to negotiate, pay tribute regularly, and receive labels for reigning? Why is it bashfully silent about the fact that along with the Tatar one, the Moscow horde came to the walls of Kiev? When in the open field, the princes' squads were defeated, and only the Kiev prince, who erected fortifications at the highest level, did not give up, who is the authoritative person who swore, kissed the cross, which the prince believed? We are not comfortable talking about this!
    How was hetman Sagaidachny slandered? How did Peter I, after the embassy in Turkey, almost captured by the Crimean khan, “thank” the Cossacks who saved him? And what inspired Mazepa, after 22 years of hetmanism, to betray Peter? You can write a whole book - "History of Russian betrayal." History was falsified, not only in Soviet times! The baton of falsification, intercepted by modern historians and politicians! On Russian television there is continuous falsification, starting with cartoons for children. Where the Kiev princes look like cowards and scoundrels, and the heroes, of course, are the Russians! Do not forget that Batyr is far from a Slavic word! Where, when, on the basis of what, did M. Lomonosov create the grammar of the “great and mighty”? The Russian patriot Vladimir Volfovich claims that the “word” Ukraine was specially invented by the Poles, although the name “Ukraine” was first found in the Lavra annals in 1187. And what kind of film “Kill a Russian in yourself”, at the TVC? It can explain how the famine in the Volga region and the famine in 1946, in Ukraine, differs from the famines of 1921-1922. and 1933-1934gg.? If Turkey does not recognize the Armenian genocide, this does not mean that it was not. But Germany, recognized the Holocaust, and apologized.
    If the Pope considered it possible to repent and apologize to the Orthodox, for Constantinople, then setting out the story honestly, why not repent to Ukraine by returning its historical name if we are Orthodox?
    Is it not at the tributary of the Dnieper, the river Ros, that the Slavic tribes of Uros or Urus lived? Why did Kievan Rus become Malorosia, and Muscovy became Muscovite Rus, and then Russia? In Romania (România), which was a distant Roman province, they do not ask questions - “Why do the Italians, in our Rome, live!”.
    Perhaps with the Crimea, is not everything clear? Tatars conquered Crimea in the 15th century, and before the Tatars, did the Greeks and Russians live there? The Crimean Khan, slaves, from St. Petersburg and Moscow ordered, or from Kievan Rus, so that the population of Crimea, 70% did not consist of Tatars? And when they conquered the Crimea, and commanders came from St. Petersburg, recruits, they brought with them in a carriage, or recruited in Malorosia? Who claims that Crimea is truly Russian land that Khrushchev gave, and what can be said about the Tmutarakan principality? Litcedey
  38. Litcedey
    Litcedey 10 March 2014 20: 26
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    what can we say about the Tmutarakan principality? Litcedey [/ quote] How much does Crimea need Russia now? For example, fresh water for irrigation of vineyards can be transported in barrels, over time, an oil pipeline, gas pipeline, power transmission line can be pulled from the Krasnodar Territory, through the strait, to invest a little money in infrastructure, but how to compensate for the loss of authority? Russia, England, USA, guaranteed the security and integrity of Ukraine. President Putin claims that without Yanukovych, this is a “different country” with which he did not sign anything! Using his logic, we can say that then there was Yeltsin, and Russia, also a "different country"!
    Negotiations, with representatives of any part of Ukraine, raise suspicions of inciting separatism, and with Bandera, their legitimization!
    Is Russia concerned about the fate of Russians in Crimea, but not in Kiev? Then why, the Federation Council, allows the use of armed forces only in the Crimea, and not throughout Ukraine? Perhaps the leadership of the Russian Federation is more concerned about the base of the Black Sea Fleet, and not the life of its own citizens? Perhaps Russia is going to make another "gesheft" on the bones of compatriots? The former ambassador of Russia, Viktor Stepanovich, wanted “How best!”, And the current one - Zurabov, but it turns out, “As always!” As soon as Russia begins to defend the Russians - wait for trouble! It would be better at the Russian embassy and consulate, not to the Russian-speaking, not to the Russian citizens of Ukraine, but to the Russians - the citizens of the Russian Federation, would cease to be treated like cattle?
    What triggered the Maidan? The previous six months, Russia stopped accepting goods, from budget-forming enterprises oriented to Russia - the budget lost 25%. After the meeting of Putin with Yanukovych and Azarov with Medvedev, Yanukovych stayed on, but after an informal meeting in the country, Yanukovych seemed to be replaced, and he refused to sign the “association”.
    The Moscow Patriarch declares, of necessity, the return of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church to the Canonical Moscow Patriarchate, or rather, the Moscow Orthodox Church, to return to the Canonical Kiev Patriarchate?
    Ah, if Russia really understood the significance of Kievan Rus, and did not betray, at every step, especially the Russians! Litcedey
  39. Ladon
    Ladon 13 March 2014 23: 52
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    Nikita Mikhalkov undoubtedly quoted the classics on time, in particular, Dostoevsky. Showed his deep reading and 'wisdom'! But Dostoevsky's article doesn't end there! And the key idea of ​​his statement just did not sound! And this thought, in short, is that under no circumstances Russia should even think about aggression and coercion towards the fraternal Slavic peoples.
    I will not say that there were no nationalists on the Maidan. They were there (like the Nazis of other nationalities, including Russians). People like ravens have a scent for all kinds of messes. But the fact that the press showed little of the present. After all, most of them fought against total theft and corruption. But the above units of the Nazis --- it was pure provocation. There were not many of them, but they were in key positions and always hit the most painful points.
    After the Maidan, they all disappeared, as if on the go. Although, why, how ... And they disappeared about a week before the Crimea and the Southeast began to rise. People started walking there, now with Russian flags (unlike Bandera and Ukrainian). It seems that they are the same people, only in different clothes and uniforms.
    I largely agree with Litcedey. After the collapse of the Union, Russia began to believe that Crimea
    given to Ukraine unfairly. This opinion slipped constantly and everywhere: in the press, on TV and even in KVN. But there is not a word in the Russian press that Crimea is almost a fully subsidized region. There, only the summer period brings something to the budget, and then, the majority settles in private pockets. But there were very good reasons for the return.
    Firstly, in order to provide Crimea with water, they built a huge water canal from the Dnieper, flooding the campaign with a huge amount of arable land and villages. And now Crimea is 80% provided with this water. He has nowhere to take another. Now, either Russia will have to build a new canal (which is hoo!) Or pay Ukraine at market prices for water.
    Secondly, the situation is almost the same with electricity. 80-90%! In order to check this, you can just look on the Internet.
  40. Ladon
    Ladon 14 March 2014 00: 18
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    Thirdly, gas is also brought from Ukraine. For these reasons, Crimea was left as part of Ukraine. We needed too large infusions. In comparison with them, the Olympics is a trifle.
    The introduction of troops into the Crimea has nothing to do with protecting the population. There were no provocations at all. And, mind you, Ukraine did not use the army to put pressure on the opinions of its citizens, but Russia did ... And immediately in the Southeast, people began to think about what was really happening. And all those who did not support the Maidan and were for Russia, felt betrayed by it. Yes, Russia will receive Crimea at gunpoint of tanks, machine guns and cannons. You can not hold a referendum. It was not in vain that they blocked the broadcasting of all Ukrainian channels, closed the airspace with Ukraine, and so on. Although in the last election the Russian Unity party took only 3% in the Crimea, the result will be unequivocal. But Russia will lose the rest of Ukraine for at least 50 years. Well, they don’t come to the brothers with arms home. People themselves would figure out who is their friend and who is not. The population in the Southeast is greater, they would give a calm vote. Not allowed...
    In the west, in Lviv, everything was calm a long time ago. People organized Unity Day and spoke Russian all day, and actions of unity and unity are now taking place all over the country. But the Russian press is still talking about Bandera, about hatred, about oppression.
    They were not and are not. Bitter and painful and no return ...